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- Hello and welcome to the one and only

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- And you're deep in our world now,

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I mean, you probably already do,

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but you know, now you have a reason.

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Absolutely.

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And for this episode, we're talking the history,

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the wild lore, how we play, what's next,

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and even that mysterious upcoming Sims movie buckle up

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because we're about to get pixelated.

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So I wanna rewind a minute.

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We're here today to talk about the Sims.

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- The greatest video game of all time.

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- Yes, the best game of all time.

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- Yes.

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- The Sims dropped in the 2000s created by Will Wright.

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It started as SimCity, which we all know and love,

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which was really ultimately inspired by architecture,

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urban planning, murdering people on a roller coaster.

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- You say that's the only thing I remember about SimCity

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is I think playing it in like the computer lab in school

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and just murdering people on a roller coaster.

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- Mass murder via roller coasters.

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- Is that the same thing?

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- Yes.

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- Roller coaster tycoon or those two different games.

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- I think they were like somewhat like the expansion

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packs of Sims that we have today.

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- So I think it was an okay.

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- Yeah, it was like, yeah.

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So Sims City and then you had all of these offshoots.

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I always think about how you were just like

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continuously cleaning up vomit.

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- Oh my God, I forgot about that.

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- Yeah, right.

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- It was too scary. - Right, you were like,

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you were like, I wasn't cleaning up the vomit.

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- They were living with it.

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- But they looked stew in their own juices.

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They're gonna die anyway.

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- Yeah, it's like they weren't really living with it.

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They were dying with it.

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But ultimately the Sims became one of the best

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selling PC franchises ever.

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We've had tons of Sims games.

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We started with the Sims one.

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Today we're on Sims four and endless expansion packs.

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We have hot day, making magic, pets, university,

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get famous.

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There's like fairy lands now.

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It's honestly anything and everything you can dream of.

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- There's kind of like a Harry Potter one.

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I think Star Wars one.

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I have the seasons which I really like

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because then it actually snows and gets hot

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and there's holidays and all of these little stuff packs

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you can buy too.

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So there's a Gothic stuff pack,

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an emo stuff pack that you can add to their furniture

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and their outfits.

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This game has taken so much of my money.

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- And all of these versions get more and more complex.

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You start with basic needs and furniture

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to fill on multitasking emotions, lifestyles.

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- More popular now are these mods as well.

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And it's actually not something you can buy

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but it's things you can find on Reddit and the internet

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where you can actually alter the code of your game

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and change it where you can do delinquent things.

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Shana actually taught me about this.

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- Did I really?

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And honestly, I love playing with the mods

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but sometimes you spend more time fixing your mods.

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So I sit down and I'm like, I'm gonna play the Sims

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and anytime there's an update, you have to reinstall

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all of your mods.

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- Wicked Wins instead of doing woo-hoo,

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your Sims actually have intercourse.

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- There's no blurring here.

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- There is no blurring.

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- They are nude.

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There are lots of different positions.

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They can do it in different places.

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or like how, I don't know if they're gonna do it in public

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and at one point I had that totally turned off.

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and we're just like going at it in the middle

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of the McDonald's and then someone else jumped in

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and I was like, oh my God, you guys.

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- Orgy party at McDonald's, you know?

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- Just vile, just on that floor.

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but yes, I do love my Wicked Wins.

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There's also extreme violence

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where your Sims can all murder each other violently

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and there's blood and all that.

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So you can have your Sims use the Pop Culture Junkie podcast

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is not condone, illicit drug use.

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- To deal with the age of eighties.

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- There you go.

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- There you go.

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- And then you go on for alcohol though.

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- It's like what's the legal age to do a lot of cocaine

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because that's what my Sims are doing.

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Growing a ton of weed, just railing lines.

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They're all coke dealers.

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the cops can come and arrest you

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and you have to spend the night in jail.

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yeah, one cop will just walk up to you

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and be like, you're a runner or a rush for drugs.

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were like, you know what?

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We need some consequences one day.

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You spend one day, but then they clear out your stash.

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So that kind of sucks.

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And then you have to go to court, I don't know.

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It's kind of in depth.

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- Drugs are bad, even though the drugs are bad.

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- But yes, I love my mods.

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I love making Olivia naked in the mods.

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- Oh yeah, who doesn't?

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- In real life.

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And in the Sims universe.

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And the Sims is ultimately captured so much

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of people's attention since the 2000s.

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In 2014, we got the Sims 4, which is still kicking

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One of the things that EA Games changed is they actually

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made the Sims 4 free.

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those expansion packs.

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you are bought in, you're buying those expansion packs.

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- You really want it.

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And so they use this strategy of making the Sims free

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and they get you hooked, you know, just like that drug.

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They ultimately really keep you coming back for more.

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And most of us know the Sims as us playing it,

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creating our own characters, designing our own homes.

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But the Sims itself actually has some crazy lore

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within it and different families, different players

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that whenever you join the game,

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they will exist within Sims City

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or whenever you do join the Sims.

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You'll see these existing characters.

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And what we wanted to do today is dive into those iconic Sims

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that we've seen throughout all the different versions

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from the story of looking at you, baby.

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- Yes, Shana.

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- Shana's, you know, fantasized about him, for sure.

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- I have.

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- And it's good looking at him.

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- Some of them have persisted through many versions

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of the games, some of them have changed.

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And so we're gonna get started and dive into

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the different families that we meet within the Sims

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'cause just like your neighborhood.

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- There's some juicy gods.

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- There is juicy hot gods.

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So first we have the Goth family.

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They are the crown jewel of the Sims drama.

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Mortimer, Bella, Cassandra, and Alexander Goth.

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So they are the most iconic and mysterious family

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in the Sims universe.

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They've appeared in every single Sims game

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and each version tells a slightly different story about them.

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So in the Sims one, the Goths are very wealthy

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and spooky, kind of giving like Adam's family vibes to me.

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- They have the graves in their backyard with ghosts, right?

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I played Sims one.

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I didn't play two or three.

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- Fig fan.

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- Yes, I know.

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I couldn't afford it.

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- But now I can't because you know, I don't,

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adult money and it's free.

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- In Sims one, the Goths are wealthy and spooky.

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Bella is alive and well.

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She vanishes under suspicious circumstances

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and no one knows where she is.

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You can find her in strange town,

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but she has no memory of the Goths

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or being part of the family.

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So at this point, it's heavily implied

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that she was abducted by aliens

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and her last location is at the Calleant A. Sister's house

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who have those alien connections

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that we'll get to in a minute.

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Mortimer is now older in Sims four and trying to move on.

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Cassandra is engaged to Don Lothario, little playboy.

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We'll see all that goes.

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And Alexander's just a kid.

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He's just a little Goth kid.

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again, is that Bella was abducted by aliens,

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behind the Calleant A's and their alien bloodline.

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So they took her over to silence her.

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And I love the last names in this are so on the nose.

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It's so funny.

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Like my favorite that we'll get to is the land grab family.

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Like it's just so on the nose and I love it so much.

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I think there's still a live in my game.

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I had aging turned on for a while,

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except for my households didn't age.

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But then that kind of sad.

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Bella is alive in my game, but she's just elderly.

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That's it.

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She's elderly.

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So then I ended up turning it off for everyone

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because I didn't want everyone else to get old and die.

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You're like, I can't keep up with all these new people coming in.

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Literally, oh, there's so many new townies in my game now

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because I think the OG characters have all kind of gotten

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old and died, unfortunately, but like their ghosts

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are just kind of floating around.

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Malcolm Langegrabbs ghost floats around my town

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and not man screws anything that moves.

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That man's going to ghost.

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Oh, he's a horse.

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He's a horny little ghost.

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He's a horny little ghost.

281
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And next we have the Caliente sisters

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who are really wrapped up within the Goth family.

283
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Most people refer to them as gold diggers with alien DNA.

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And it is Nina and Dina Caliente.

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They are closest to Caliente.

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They are closest to Don Lathario, Mortimer Goth, and Bella Goth.

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So Nina and Dina are twins, but fans have always

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kind of called out that they don't actually look alike.

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And most people speculate because they

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are half aliens.

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Now stick with me.

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In The Sims 2--

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I'm here with you.

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I'm here with you.

295
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In The Sims 2, they live with Don Lathario

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and are trying to deduce Mortimer Goth, who

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is a newly widowed older man.

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And in The Sims 2, part of the game

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that you have to play the main characters,

300
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like The Sims Created Characters, to get to.

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And it is called Strange Town.

302
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And when you go there, there is a lot of alien things happening.

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And so that's really why they think

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that Bella was abducted by aliens.

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So I think if you go to Strange Town,

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you actually can meet an alien.

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And there's flying saucers and things like that.

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And it does say that Bella was in Strange Town,

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but she doesn't remember her family.

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Would Bella and Mortimer or Mary to each other, right?

311
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Yes.

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OK.

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Got it.

314
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So yes, he is a widow or he thinks he's a widow in Sims 2

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because his wife is missing.

316
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Which is Bella, who's in Strange Town.

317
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Deena has possibly already married and buried

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a rich husband before.

319
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Who has a widow?

320
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We love a black widow.

321
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We love a black widow.

322
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And so many of my Sims have just--

323
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I'll create a man just for him to die.

324
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Just for him to die.

325
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And one thing that we didn't necessarily

326
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mention about the Goth family is they are rich.

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When you go into the game, you always

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want to play the Goth family because they have this mansion

329
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and everyone else has a middle class family home.

330
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Unless you're the land grabs.

331
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Yes, yeah.

332
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They are the Goths 2.0.

333
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And so ultimately, Deena and Nina

334
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are really these kind of gold diggers.

335
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Like I said at the beginning.

336
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And they are seen as these nefarious women who

337
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helped get Bella Goth got and ultimately are--

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Bella got got got got got got got.

339
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Ultimately are part of the plan on the night

340
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that she disappeared.

341
00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,920
And so the family and the fan theory around them

342
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is that the family and they were sent by aliens

343
00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,640
to infiltrate the Sims society.

344
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Obviously.

345
00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,560
Deena's pursuit of Mortimer was to secure the Goth family

346
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wealth for whatever alien plan is underway.

347
00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,080
And so what do aliens need money?

348
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World domination.

349
00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,400
I mean, I guess I'm just thinking back

350
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to V our last episode that you should check out.

351
00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,080
And the aliens wanted more like resources.

352
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I don't know.

353
00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,480
Like what does an alien need with currency?

354
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What does an alien need with simlions?

355
00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,680
Isn't that what their money's called?

356
00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:58,480
Simlions?

357
00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,280
Yeah.

358
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Well, currency would get you things.

359
00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,920
And then things are like supplies, I guess.

360
00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:05,080
But--

361
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Materialistic aliens.

362
00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:07,880
Yes.

363
00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,880
As Scarface would say, first you get the money,

364
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then you get the power, then you get that girl.

365
00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,680
So maybe they're trying to make alien babies

366
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like they did with the county and two sisters.

367
00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,840
So they want to be rich so that they can be handsome

368
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and wantable by sim ladies to make sim babies

369
00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,480
to infiltrate simsiety.

370
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It goes all the way to the top.

371
00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:32,880
All the way to the top.

372
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We are back.

373
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And we are to my favorite character in favorite townie,

374
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Don Lothario, or as Olivia called him, the ultimate fuck

375
00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:48,600
boy.

376
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So Don Lothario's key traits are hot,

377
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,320
shirtless and commitment phobic,

378
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kind of like my college ex boyfriend.

379
00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,320
Bono.

380
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He is engaged to Cassandra Goth,

381
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involved with Nina, Dina, and Bella.

382
00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,320
So Don Lothario is the messy king of sims too.

383
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He's got four romantic relationships going at once,

384
00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,240
unless you make him have relationships

385
00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,080
with your characters that you create, which he always wants

386
00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,680
to show up and do, because he's Don Lothario.

387
00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,360
He's engaged to Cassandra,

388
00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,840
but flirting with everyone else, including her mom,

389
00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,160
Bella, you dirty, dirty boy.

390
00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,040
I called Andrew Don Lothario at one point.

391
00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,200
I don't remember what he was doing.

392
00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,200
Did he get the reference?

393
00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,680
No, I think I need to break up with him.

394
00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,960
I was like, OK, Don Lothario.

395
00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,120
Divorced reason.

396
00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,040
He didn't know my sims reference.

397
00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:45,960
My sims reference.

398
00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,160
He's like, I'm sorry.

399
00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,520
What did you just call me?

400
00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,800
Anyway, I digress.

401
00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,840
Some fans think that he was working

402
00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,800
with the Calientes to lure Bella away.

403
00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,560
And in Sims 3, he shows up as a younger version of himself

404
00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,800
in Sunset Valley, which is a prequel.

405
00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,360
And we see how his drama got started.

406
00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:09,280
I didn't realize Sims 3 was a prequel,

407
00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,120
but I guess it's because I didn't play that.

408
00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:12,280
But that's kind of--

409
00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,040
The timeline kind of jumps around

410
00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,080
and you bring all these different ones, yeah.

411
00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:16,880
I like that.

412
00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,120
A fun fact about Don.

413
00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:21,280
His bio says he's quote, afraid of commitment,

414
00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,920
but can't resist a pretty face.

415
00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,920
Same, Don.

416
00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,400
Don and I have that in common.

417
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:27,920
They say so.

418
00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,040
He's just your average Arizona state student.

419
00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:31,800
Got it.

420
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:32,720
Perfect.

421
00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,320
Perfect.

422
00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,760
To the ASU of Sims City.

423
00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:37,880
Go Devils.

424
00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,040
There is also a Sims University pack,

425
00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,760
but I haven't downloaded it.

426
00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:42,720
I played that.

427
00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,840
I think I played it in Sims 3.

428
00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:45,960
Fun.

429
00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,360
I was in middle school, though.

430
00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:49,920
I mean, should not have been playing--

431
00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,000
I think that's a challenge.

432
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:51,920
Yeah.

433
00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,960
I think that Sims 3 was--

434
00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,600
maybe it was Sims 2, but Sims 3, I think,

435
00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,160
is when you got the heart bed that could vibrate.

436
00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,640
Oh, Sims 1, I think we had the heart bed too,

437
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,600
because I remember I Stephanie and I used to play--

438
00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,160
we would have sleepovers where we would just sit in whoever's

439
00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,960
parents house we were at, and their computer room

440
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,880
would play the Sims for hours.

441
00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,800
And we would always make the kidding

442
00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,280
school that we had to crush on, because we

443
00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,600
had to crush on the same boy.

444
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,880
And he'd be so hot and shirtless,

445
00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,840
and we would get in the vibrating bed with him.

446
00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,360
I love that.

447
00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:26,840
Together?

448
00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,480
No, only one at a time.

449
00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,160
Although we did download a hot date.

450
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,880
And maybe it was Sims 2 now that I think about it,

451
00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,400
because I'm not sure if all these expansions

452
00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,280
packs were with Sims 1.

453
00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:38,800
I don't know.

454
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,840
Somebody let us know in the comments.

455
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,280
But I was like, oh, Stephanie and Shawn,

456
00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,360
I need to go and have a girls day.

457
00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:47,920
So they went on a hot date, and then it ended up

458
00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,120
falling in love at the end.

459
00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:51,920
And we were like, no, no.

460
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,600
Restart, restart, because we were children.

461
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,000
And therefore, oh, no.

462
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,880
Shawn hadn't realized she was a bisexual then.

463
00:18:58,880 --> 00:18:59,600
I wasn't.

464
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,840
Maybe that was my awakening.

465
00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,360
Maybe I was like, yeah.

466
00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:03,960
I kind of liked them.

467
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,920
[LAUGHTER]

468
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,720
Maybe I want to go on more hot dates with some ladies, anyway.

469
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,720
[LAUGHTER]

470
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,800
We have a couple more families.

471
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:17,280
Yes.

472
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,800
And then we have the pleasant family

473
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,840
who are most known for their absolute suburban despair.

474
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,040
And so the members of this family are Daniel, who's

475
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,800
the dad, Mary Sue, the mother, Angela, the twin daughter,

476
00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,160
and Lilith, the twin daughter.

477
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,040
They were probably the least fun to play with,

478
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,520
mainly because they were pretty good.

479
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,960
I remember playing with them.

480
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:43,800
And I would always use--

481
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:44,800
Oh, woo-hoo.

482
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,520
They were poos, which in the Sims, that's no fun.

483
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,600
You don't want to be poor in the Sims,

484
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,280
Bernie porn real life.

485
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,040
Oh, my God.

486
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,320
I always make my character start poor.

487
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,680
I like the Rags to Rich's Challenge,

488
00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,920
where they start with zero.

489
00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:03,000
And they have to like forage off of the land.

490
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,200
And then eventually--

491
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,520
Yeah, and they get a job with their phone.

492
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,200
And then I have them shower at the gym

493
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,000
and sleep in the library.

494
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,560
And the challenge is to get from $0 to $1 million.

495
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,160
Just--

496
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,880
You're scraping by your bootstrap.

497
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,280
They always end up dealing drugs.

498
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,880
I make them all drug dealers.

499
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,320
Every single day.

500
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,360
Hi.

501
00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:23,240
Literally it.

502
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,760
Rosebud Cheat, the second I get in there,

503
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,600
because I want to be playing and building,

504
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,000
and making the space by own.

505
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,200
And all of the cheap furniture is ugly.

506
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,160
They do that on purpose.

507
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,440
But uncomfortable.

508
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,820
And then all your Sims can play in that their backs

509
00:20:39,820 --> 00:20:43,100
or that their shower wasn't nice.

510
00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:45,260
And you're like, bro, you're using a--

511
00:20:45,260 --> 00:20:48,020
Just like an apple that you picked from the backyard

512
00:20:48,020 --> 00:20:50,140
as you're lunch.

513
00:20:50,140 --> 00:20:53,060
You're going to sleep in whatever bed we can afford.

514
00:20:53,060 --> 00:20:53,420
Yeah.

515
00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:59,000
And despite being poor, they are kind of the suburban, middle class,

516
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,340
happy family.

517
00:21:00,340 --> 00:21:04,140
But there is a lot of tea going on within that family.

518
00:21:04,140 --> 00:21:06,420
So Daniel is cheating with the maid.

519
00:21:06,420 --> 00:21:08,820
Mary Sue is a workaholic.

520
00:21:08,820 --> 00:21:11,220
But she's about to get fired.

521
00:21:11,220 --> 00:21:13,500
Angela is the golden child.

522
00:21:13,500 --> 00:21:15,860
She's dating Dustin Brooke.

523
00:21:15,860 --> 00:21:19,180
And Lilith is the rebel hated by her family

524
00:21:19,180 --> 00:21:22,420
and possibly secretly in love with Angela's boyfriend.

525
00:21:22,420 --> 00:21:24,540
So we get a little fun.

526
00:21:24,540 --> 00:21:25,980
I have a question here.

527
00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:26,660
Oh, never mind.

528
00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:27,500
We're pleasant.

529
00:21:27,500 --> 00:21:28,260
OK.

530
00:21:28,260 --> 00:21:28,780
Yeah.

531
00:21:28,780 --> 00:21:29,500
The classic family.

532
00:21:29,500 --> 00:21:30,020
That pleasant.

533
00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:30,660
Not the brooks.

534
00:21:30,660 --> 00:21:32,140
They're probably also poor.

535
00:21:32,140 --> 00:21:32,860
OK.

536
00:21:32,860 --> 00:21:33,540
Yeah.

537
00:21:33,540 --> 00:21:34,140
I don't know why.

538
00:21:34,140 --> 00:21:36,740
I would assume that the broke family are poor.

539
00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:40,900
I may be mashing the two together, but in my mind.

540
00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:42,660
But, you know, whatever.

541
00:21:42,660 --> 00:21:45,540
Behind the white-picket fence family--

542
00:21:45,540 --> 00:21:49,580
so the theme of them is behind the white-picket fence,

543
00:21:49,580 --> 00:21:53,580
this family is like straight, desperate house wives

544
00:21:53,580 --> 00:21:54,380
energy.

545
00:21:54,380 --> 00:21:58,540
And it's a little fun with the teenagers

546
00:21:58,540 --> 00:22:01,100
kind of fighting over a man.

547
00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:03,260
It's kind of like the younger version

548
00:22:03,260 --> 00:22:07,780
of the Caliente sisters with Bella and the Goth family.

549
00:22:07,780 --> 00:22:08,980
I love that.

550
00:22:08,980 --> 00:22:13,500
You never know what lyrics behind your neighbor's front door.

551
00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:16,100
My neighbor's too, because I'm naked in front of the window

552
00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:17,220
a lot.

553
00:22:17,220 --> 00:22:19,100
I'm definitely the naked neighbor.

554
00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:20,820
Oh, I'm absolutely the naked neighbor.

555
00:22:20,820 --> 00:22:24,340
Somehow, Sean, I has been the naked neighbor at my house.

556
00:22:24,340 --> 00:22:26,220
And I've lived here for three months.

557
00:22:26,220 --> 00:22:29,380
This woman was just walking around but naked.

558
00:22:29,380 --> 00:22:31,780
And in front of these giant day windows,

559
00:22:31,780 --> 00:22:32,780
I've lived here for--

560
00:22:32,780 --> 00:22:34,140
Oh, forgot.

561
00:22:34,140 --> 00:22:35,300
I still forgot.

562
00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:37,700
But yeah, front neighbors and your back neighbors

563
00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:39,820
have both seen me.

564
00:22:39,820 --> 00:22:40,540
Can't help--

565
00:22:40,540 --> 00:22:41,540
How I'm naked.

566
00:22:41,540 --> 00:22:42,620
Like, yeah.

567
00:22:42,620 --> 00:22:43,980
Oh, not a lick of clothing.

568
00:22:43,980 --> 00:22:45,740
Not a lick of clothing.

569
00:22:45,740 --> 00:22:48,460
Because why would I wear clothing at my friends' house?

570
00:22:48,460 --> 00:22:49,660
It's my birthday.

571
00:22:49,660 --> 00:22:51,380
I'm going to be naked anyway.

572
00:22:51,380 --> 00:22:51,980
It's my birthday.

573
00:22:51,980 --> 00:22:53,220
I need to be in my birthday soon.

574
00:22:53,220 --> 00:22:55,300
I need to be in my birthday soon.

575
00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:57,900
I need to party the way that I came into this world.

576
00:22:57,900 --> 00:23:00,060
Nude and drunk.

577
00:23:00,060 --> 00:23:02,940
Anyway, the broke family is next.

578
00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:06,180
Brandy broke, Dustin broke, and the unborn baby broke.

579
00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:11,260
Brandy is widowed or has been skipped broke,

580
00:23:11,260 --> 00:23:13,500
died under mysterious circumstances.

581
00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:18,700
Some say it is that ever dreaded pool ladder removal.

582
00:23:18,700 --> 00:23:21,060
They have this fun little Easter egg in the Sims now

583
00:23:21,060 --> 00:23:23,940
where your Sim Awika from a bad dream.

584
00:23:23,940 --> 00:23:25,220
And it'll say what their dream was.

585
00:23:25,220 --> 00:23:27,460
And they're like, Sean had dreamt about drowning

586
00:23:27,460 --> 00:23:29,300
inside of a pool that had no ladder.

587
00:23:29,300 --> 00:23:30,140
That's crazy.

588
00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:32,580
Why didn't she just hop off the side?

589
00:23:32,580 --> 00:23:33,540
(laughs)

590
00:23:33,540 --> 00:23:35,500
They're self-aware and we love it.

591
00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:38,740
Okay, so Brandy is widowed, pregnant, broke,

592
00:23:38,740 --> 00:23:40,660
trying to raise two kids alone,

593
00:23:40,660 --> 00:23:42,860
Dustin's in trouble with the law.

594
00:23:42,860 --> 00:23:45,380
Some fans think that skipped broke, didn't die,

595
00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:47,660
but faked his own death because, you know,

596
00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:51,700
he's running away from someone or something.

597
00:23:51,700 --> 00:23:52,540
Maybe the--

598
00:23:52,540 --> 00:23:54,180
♪ Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't ♪

599
00:23:54,180 --> 00:23:57,860
The responsibility's a fatherhood or aliens.

600
00:23:57,860 --> 00:23:58,700
It's one of the other.

601
00:23:58,700 --> 00:23:59,520
- It's one of the other.

602
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,420
- He's running away from that broke-ass baby.

603
00:24:01,420 --> 00:24:03,220
- That unborn broke baby.

604
00:24:03,220 --> 00:24:05,420
- No one wants a broke-ass baby, shit.

605
00:24:05,420 --> 00:24:06,260
My baby's gone.

606
00:24:06,260 --> 00:24:07,260
- Come on, Roach.

607
00:24:07,260 --> 00:24:08,860
(laughs)

608
00:24:08,860 --> 00:24:10,980
- And we mentioned Strange Town.

609
00:24:10,980 --> 00:24:14,780
I did want to kind of go into a little bit further

610
00:24:14,780 --> 00:24:17,300
of the characters that we see within that.

611
00:24:17,300 --> 00:24:20,820
It's kind of known as the X-Files of the Sims.

612
00:24:20,820 --> 00:24:24,340
And so we have Belagoth, which we've mentioned a lot.

613
00:24:24,340 --> 00:24:27,340
The nervous subject, the beakers, the grunts,

614
00:24:27,340 --> 00:24:30,020
and of course our elusive aliens.

615
00:24:30,020 --> 00:24:33,340
So this neighborhood is filled with a bunch of weirdos.

616
00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:36,260
There's government experiments that went wrong,

617
00:24:36,260 --> 00:24:39,940
alien abductions, and even hybrid babies.

618
00:24:39,940 --> 00:24:43,380
So nervous subject is literally being experimented

619
00:24:43,380 --> 00:24:45,220
on by the beaker family.

620
00:24:45,220 --> 00:24:50,220
The grunt family is a military unit fighting alien influence,

621
00:24:50,220 --> 00:24:54,100
but even their son gets abducted and impregnated.

622
00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:56,500
- Oh, God, Jesus Christ.

623
00:24:56,500 --> 00:24:58,580
It's getting dark.

624
00:24:58,580 --> 00:25:00,500
And like we mentioned, Bella is there,

625
00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:01,860
but you can't remember anything.

626
00:25:01,860 --> 00:25:04,100
So Strange Town is very fun.

627
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:06,180
And that's only in Sims 2.

628
00:25:06,180 --> 00:25:10,340
- Yeah, Sully would love to go there.

629
00:25:10,340 --> 00:25:12,620
- The truth is in Strange Town.

630
00:25:12,620 --> 00:25:15,380
(dramatic music)

631
00:25:15,380 --> 00:25:20,860
- So the land grab family as their name might imply

632
00:25:20,860 --> 00:25:25,460
are greedy, powerful, and possibly evil.

633
00:25:25,460 --> 00:25:28,580
So the members are Malcolm Land Grab, Nancy,

634
00:25:28,580 --> 00:25:32,540
Jeffrey, and Baby Malcolm Jr. in some of the games.

635
00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:35,900
So think ultra rich, ultra violent.

636
00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:37,300
I almost said ultra violent.

637
00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:39,180
Isn't that a Lana Del Rey record?

638
00:25:39,180 --> 00:25:40,020
- Yeah.

639
00:25:40,020 --> 00:25:41,220
(laughing)

640
00:25:41,220 --> 00:25:42,820
- They are not Lana Del Rey.

641
00:25:42,820 --> 00:25:43,820
They are Trump.

642
00:25:43,820 --> 00:25:46,300
(laughing)

643
00:25:46,300 --> 00:25:49,700
Like Trump family mixed with bond villains.

644
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:52,420
Nancy is a criminal, Jeffrey is in politics,

645
00:25:52,420 --> 00:25:54,820
and Malcolm's just kind of a spoiled brat.

646
00:25:54,820 --> 00:25:58,220
And Sims 4, they own most of the town.

647
00:25:58,220 --> 00:26:01,020
So whenever you pay your bills,

648
00:26:01,020 --> 00:26:04,580
like the electric bill it goes to the land grab electric company.

649
00:26:04,580 --> 00:26:06,340
And they can shut off your power.

650
00:26:06,340 --> 00:26:08,140
And I've always noticed it says,

651
00:26:08,140 --> 00:26:10,060
you have 24 hours to pay your bill

652
00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:11,380
before your electricity shut off.

653
00:26:11,380 --> 00:26:13,500
And then it's like immediately right then.

654
00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:15,540
They're like, "Just kidding.

655
00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:18,460
"Shut down, shut down."

656
00:26:18,460 --> 00:26:19,980
But yes, in my game,

657
00:26:19,980 --> 00:26:24,020
I kinda turned the land grabs into that aristocrats joke.

658
00:26:24,020 --> 00:26:25,980
- Oh, you made a man's test?

659
00:26:25,980 --> 00:26:29,460
- Yeah, I made them a little like white Lotus season three,

660
00:26:29,460 --> 00:26:31,900
the brother action going on.

661
00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:32,740
- I love that.

662
00:26:32,740 --> 00:26:35,260
- So they're all just high out of their minds

663
00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:37,820
and just doing unpleasant things with each other.

664
00:26:37,820 --> 00:26:38,660
And then they all die.

665
00:26:38,660 --> 00:26:39,980
- Doing their family members.

666
00:26:39,980 --> 00:26:41,940
- They're all doing each other and then they die.

667
00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:44,500
Yeah, so they're all dead as they say.

668
00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:45,340
- I think so.

669
00:26:45,340 --> 00:26:46,500
(laughing)

670
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:51,500
- They're all dead in some incest orgy drug-fueled evening.

671
00:26:51,580 --> 00:26:55,580
But yeah, Malcolm Leagrab, his evil ghost floats around still.

672
00:26:55,580 --> 00:26:56,420
- I love that.

673
00:26:56,420 --> 00:26:57,260
I love that.

674
00:26:57,260 --> 00:27:00,180
Yeah, eat the ridge, eat the ridge and Shana's game.

675
00:27:00,180 --> 00:27:03,740
And I can go through each other a little too literally.

676
00:27:03,740 --> 00:27:04,900
- It was very long then.

677
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:06,660
(laughing)

678
00:27:06,660 --> 00:27:09,700
- And so as we've kinda gone through this,

679
00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:12,700
you're probably like, wait, what's the order of the games?

680
00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:14,700
It's almost like the Marvel universe.

681
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:15,980
Like this one goes here.

682
00:27:15,980 --> 00:27:18,500
They are not, Sims 1 does not happen first.

683
00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:19,620
All those things, right?

684
00:27:19,620 --> 00:27:23,020
So Sims 3 is technically a prequel.

685
00:27:23,020 --> 00:27:26,300
So like we mentioned, you see younger versions of characters,

686
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:29,020
including a teen fellow, a young Mortimer,

687
00:27:29,020 --> 00:27:31,060
and an early Don Litharium.

688
00:27:31,060 --> 00:27:32,700
- Sexy.

689
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:37,220
- Sims 2 is in the middle where a lot of the drama happens

690
00:27:37,220 --> 00:27:39,580
when they first become adults.

691
00:27:39,580 --> 00:27:44,580
And ultimately we get to see a lot of the key lore

692
00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:47,300
that we've been discussing throughout this.

693
00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:51,700
Sims 4 is technically an alternate universe.

694
00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:52,700
I did not know that.

695
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:53,820
That's interesting.

696
00:27:53,820 --> 00:27:59,140
- And the game creator, Maxis, said that it's a parallel timeline.

697
00:27:59,140 --> 00:28:02,660
So events don't match up in the same way.

698
00:28:02,660 --> 00:28:05,740
So ultimately like a multiverse.

699
00:28:05,740 --> 00:28:06,900
- Yes, it's definitely Marvel.

700
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:07,900
- It's just definitely interesting.

701
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:08,860
- Yeah, right.

702
00:28:08,860 --> 00:28:11,900
And there's no official chronological order

703
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:14,420
that makes 100% sense.

704
00:28:14,420 --> 00:28:16,140
They were having a silly goofy time

705
00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:18,500
when they were making up these things.

706
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:19,500
And that's part of the fun.

707
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:21,540
It's like a glitchy multiverse.

708
00:28:21,540 --> 00:28:25,540
And really the Sims has so much lore.

709
00:28:25,540 --> 00:28:28,980
Like a lot of us do just play our own characters,

710
00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:32,060
but I would encourage you to play around with the families.

711
00:28:32,060 --> 00:28:33,140
There's a lot of fun.

712
00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:36,380
You can find things like Strange Town when you do that.

713
00:28:36,380 --> 00:28:40,940
And ultimately kind of play your own characters

714
00:28:40,940 --> 00:28:44,420
and theirs as well, because there's quite a bit of fun.

715
00:28:44,420 --> 00:28:45,260
- I like that.

716
00:28:45,260 --> 00:28:46,300
I think I'm gonna start doing that

717
00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:48,380
because I always just kind of play with my own.

718
00:28:48,380 --> 00:28:49,220
- All right.

719
00:28:49,220 --> 00:28:50,740
So we've talked a lot about the lore.

720
00:28:50,740 --> 00:28:55,860
Shana, let's tell the listeners how you like to play the Sims

721
00:28:55,860 --> 00:28:58,380
and they can call you a psychopath as well.

722
00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:00,020
(laughing)

723
00:29:00,020 --> 00:29:01,940
- Well, I already said that I made the entire

724
00:29:01,940 --> 00:29:05,220
Land Grab family incestuous homicide.

725
00:29:05,220 --> 00:29:07,060
Also known as murderers.

726
00:29:07,060 --> 00:29:10,860
Homicide Ill-Maniac was where I was going with my mind.

727
00:29:10,860 --> 00:29:11,700
- Okay.

728
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:13,100
- So they're all disgusting.

729
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:18,060
For the most part though, I make, so I have Shana and Andrew

730
00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:20,020
and they live in this huge mansion

731
00:29:20,020 --> 00:29:21,980
and they have Buffy and Toast

732
00:29:21,980 --> 00:29:25,140
and they are ripped out of their minds and wealthy

733
00:29:25,140 --> 00:29:28,220
and maxed out on all of their skills.

734
00:29:28,220 --> 00:29:31,260
So I stopped playing them as much,

735
00:29:31,260 --> 00:29:33,580
even though they still exist in the town.

736
00:29:33,580 --> 00:29:36,020
- Was that after I told you you were insane

737
00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:37,260
for only playing you in your husband?

738
00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:38,260
- No.

739
00:29:38,260 --> 00:29:41,060
So I have, oh yeah, in the Sims,

740
00:29:41,060 --> 00:29:42,900
Shana and Andrew are always just with each other.

741
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:45,380
They don't play around, no.

742
00:29:45,380 --> 00:29:50,300
But they have friends who are the entire cast

743
00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:51,540
of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

744
00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:54,100
I have all of sex in the city and there,

745
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:57,860
I have the Adams family, I have Elvira,

746
00:29:57,860 --> 00:30:01,260
I have Olivia.

747
00:30:01,260 --> 00:30:03,260
So there's a cute little Olivia.

748
00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:05,020
Oh, she lives with Lady Gaga

749
00:30:05,020 --> 00:30:07,780
and my friends Heather and Jessica.

750
00:30:07,780 --> 00:30:10,940
So I've made a lot of the people that I know.

751
00:30:10,940 --> 00:30:13,180
So I kind of, and then I make randoms too,

752
00:30:13,180 --> 00:30:15,820
if I'm just like, oh, I wanna play the doctor career,

753
00:30:15,820 --> 00:30:17,820
then I'll just make up like a random person

754
00:30:17,820 --> 00:30:19,740
and play the doctor career.

755
00:30:19,740 --> 00:30:23,540
I never find myself playing as men,

756
00:30:23,540 --> 00:30:27,500
unless it's, if I'm playing as Andrew

757
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:31,140
or if I'm playing as like Spike in the Buffy house.

758
00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:33,540
But if I'm just like, oh, I'm gonna play the Rags to Riches,

759
00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:35,420
I'm gonna make a girl.

760
00:30:35,420 --> 00:30:36,260
- Okay, obvious.

761
00:30:36,260 --> 00:30:39,340
- Gender fluid king Spike.

762
00:30:39,340 --> 00:30:41,380
- Oh yeah, yep, I definitely play some Spike

763
00:30:41,380 --> 00:30:44,740
and he is with Buffy, but he also kinda,

764
00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:46,860
he gets around because he doesn't wanna,

765
00:30:46,860 --> 00:30:48,260
look, I was Spike.

766
00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:49,940
I should make him an Olivia hookup.

767
00:30:49,940 --> 00:30:51,500
I think that'd be good for you.

768
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:53,700
- The fact that you haven't, rude.

769
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:54,700
- I know, I'm sorry.

770
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:56,700
You just hooked up with that guy in the bar.

771
00:30:56,700 --> 00:31:00,140
Oh, and then I also, I made the bar that I worked at.

772
00:31:00,140 --> 00:31:02,340
This is what Olivia thinks I'm Psycho for.

773
00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:03,740
(laughs)

774
00:31:03,740 --> 00:31:06,380
So when I worked at a bar how I met Olivia,

775
00:31:06,380 --> 00:31:11,380
I made the bar in the Sims game and Shawna and Olivia,

776
00:31:11,380 --> 00:31:14,740
which is go to the bar together and hang out,

777
00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:18,100
which is essentially what you and I were doing.

778
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,540
- Yeah, so I'd be like, I'm gonna go home,

779
00:31:20,540 --> 00:31:23,260
and play the Sims and then I would just make the Sims do

780
00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:25,140
what we just did.

781
00:31:25,140 --> 00:31:26,940
- It was so crazy.

782
00:31:26,940 --> 00:31:30,740
Like, okay, so she's making it sound like she plays this game

783
00:31:30,740 --> 00:31:33,460
so much more diverse than she does.

784
00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:35,940
She may actually have these people.

785
00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:37,900
- I do, I do, I do.

786
00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:40,220
- But, so Shawna and I are talking about the Sims

787
00:31:40,220 --> 00:31:42,500
and she's like, I ask a question,

788
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:43,820
so how do you play the Sims?

789
00:31:43,820 --> 00:31:46,380
I love asking people this because I think it's like

790
00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:47,300
really illuminating.

791
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:48,340
Like, how do you play the Sims?

792
00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:49,620
Do you play yourself?

793
00:31:49,620 --> 00:31:54,380
Do you play other characters and create other characters?

794
00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:57,100
Or are you just like, I don't even wanna play the characters.

795
00:31:57,100 --> 00:32:00,220
I just wanna like interior design and build my own Sims.

796
00:32:00,220 --> 00:32:01,220
- Yeah, oh that's fair, yeah.

797
00:32:01,220 --> 00:32:03,660
- And Shawna's like, oh, I play myself.

798
00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:06,220
And like, Andrew and I are the only two people together

799
00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:10,180
and I made the casual pint and she has her life

800
00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:14,220
and does the exact same things in the cat and our dog.

801
00:32:14,220 --> 00:32:17,300
- I mean, they have better jobs than we have.

802
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:20,940
- Yeah, yeah, but you still didn't even give them Rosebud.

803
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:22,100
It's the crazy thing.

804
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:24,580
Like, you know, they had to work for their money.

805
00:32:24,580 --> 00:32:27,540
- In saying, like crazy.

806
00:32:27,540 --> 00:32:30,820
And so if you can't tell by my reaction to this,

807
00:32:30,820 --> 00:32:33,860
I am almost always playing other people.

808
00:32:33,860 --> 00:32:35,900
I like to play some of the stock characters,

809
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:40,540
but a lot of the time I like to build like a super hot person.

810
00:32:40,540 --> 00:32:42,660
- You never make an Olivia?

811
00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:43,900
- I've made an Olivia.

812
00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:46,300
Like, when I was younger, I would make up like

813
00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:48,380
older versions of me.

814
00:32:48,380 --> 00:32:49,220
- Okay.

815
00:32:49,220 --> 00:32:52,340
- That would really ever play me as an adult.

816
00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:53,620
- Interesting.

817
00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:55,420
I've said you the Olivia that I made.

818
00:32:55,420 --> 00:32:56,420
I'm really proud of her.

819
00:32:56,420 --> 00:32:58,380
I think she's my friend character that I've made

820
00:32:58,380 --> 00:33:00,860
that looks the most like one of my friends.

821
00:33:00,860 --> 00:33:02,820
- Yeah, no, posted on the Instagram, that's great.

822
00:33:02,820 --> 00:33:05,540
- Yeah, I need to post me and you hanging out on the Sims

823
00:33:05,540 --> 00:33:08,380
on our Instagram so people can agree or disagree to us.

824
00:33:08,380 --> 00:33:09,220
Like us. - Yeah.

825
00:33:09,220 --> 00:33:10,140
- How much does this look like us?

826
00:33:10,140 --> 00:33:10,980
- Yes.

827
00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:11,860
- And one time I was like,

828
00:33:11,860 --> 00:33:14,340
"Shana, you need to be manifesting me,

829
00:33:14,340 --> 00:33:18,460
"hooking up with a man or finding a man in the Sims."

830
00:33:18,460 --> 00:33:22,340
And so she goes, "Okay, I'm gonna do that.

831
00:33:22,340 --> 00:33:26,340
"Makes me hook up with this guy in the casual pint bathroom,

832
00:33:26,340 --> 00:33:27,860
"the bar that we hang out with."

833
00:33:27,860 --> 00:33:29,140
- "Minsroom."

834
00:33:29,140 --> 00:33:32,420
- "In the men's room with a man with a blue mohawk."

835
00:33:32,420 --> 00:33:34,300
- It was a green mohawk.

836
00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:36,420
- Okay, okay, very important distinction.

837
00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:39,220
- So Olivia, yes, hooked up with a guy with a green mohawk

838
00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:40,940
in the men's room of the bar.

839
00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:43,620
And so I sent her like a picture of it in my phone

840
00:33:43,620 --> 00:33:44,740
on Snapchat and I was like,

841
00:33:44,740 --> 00:33:48,100
"Look, I got you a male suitor on the Sims."

842
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:49,900
Just like you asked and she was like,

843
00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:54,900
"That's disgusting never to begin or at least make it seem."

844
00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:57,340
- I think you also take me on a pregnant.

845
00:33:57,940 --> 00:33:59,860
- He did, he got you pregnant

846
00:33:59,860 --> 00:34:02,780
and I also have an abortion mod.

847
00:34:02,780 --> 00:34:09,940
- So don't let Shana do manifesting for you,

848
00:34:09,940 --> 00:34:11,180
especially in the Sims,

849
00:34:11,180 --> 00:34:13,580
'cause she's gonna go really weird with it

850
00:34:13,580 --> 00:34:15,660
unless it's her own character.

851
00:34:15,660 --> 00:34:20,100
She's like, "Evaly sabotaging me via her Sims plan."

852
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:23,420
- Oh no, Sim Shana has gotten like 15 abortions.

853
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:28,620
- Well, only one off from regular Shana, you know?

854
00:34:28,620 --> 00:34:29,460
- That's true.

855
00:34:29,460 --> 00:34:30,500
- No, I'm at 14 now.

856
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:35,020
God, we're going off the rails here.

857
00:34:35,020 --> 00:34:36,860
So we both play in different ways,

858
00:34:36,860 --> 00:34:38,980
but also kind of similar ways.

859
00:34:38,980 --> 00:34:39,820
- Yes, I like it.

860
00:34:39,820 --> 00:34:41,540
- I think it's funny.

861
00:34:41,540 --> 00:34:45,860
What's your design aesthetic within the Sims?

862
00:34:45,860 --> 00:34:49,900
- Oh, it varies so drastically from person to person.

863
00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:53,020
So I made all of the sex in the city girls

864
00:34:53,020 --> 00:34:56,300
live together and each of their rooms is very distinct to them.

865
00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:58,100
Oh, I made the spice girls too.

866
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:01,140
And they live in this huge mansion and so each room,

867
00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:03,980
I had fun customizing scary, sporty,

868
00:35:03,980 --> 00:35:05,700
posh baby ginger.

869
00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:10,700
Shana and Andrews is very mid-century modern in the desert

870
00:35:10,700 --> 00:35:13,020
which is also our house.

871
00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:13,860
I know.

872
00:35:13,860 --> 00:35:17,220
- I heard time you tell me more about this character,

873
00:35:17,220 --> 00:35:18,980
like these characters.

874
00:35:18,980 --> 00:35:21,580
You, I'm like, "Why are you doing?"

875
00:35:21,580 --> 00:35:22,420
- It's unique.

876
00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:25,220
- But upgraded, it's Miba, upgrade it.

877
00:35:25,220 --> 00:35:26,060
- Is it?

878
00:35:26,060 --> 00:35:26,900
- Baby a little up.

879
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:29,060
- She's got a six pack.

880
00:35:29,060 --> 00:35:29,820
- She's got a six pack.

881
00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:34,020
- Like she's shredded out of her mind.

882
00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:36,660
- Her husband's a professional athlete.

883
00:35:36,660 --> 00:35:38,420
- Crisis, crazy person.

884
00:35:38,420 --> 00:35:39,740
- But yeah, other people's houses,

885
00:35:39,740 --> 00:35:42,780
I have like one boho chic house.

886
00:35:42,780 --> 00:35:45,020
I made Bulma and Vegeta from Dragon Ball.

887
00:35:45,020 --> 00:35:47,860
And so I made like the lab that they live

888
00:35:47,860 --> 00:35:49,500
and work and train at in there.

889
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:51,420
So it really is, it depends on the character,

890
00:35:51,420 --> 00:35:52,820
I guess is what I'm trying to say.

891
00:35:52,820 --> 00:35:53,660
- What about you?

892
00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:54,660
- Okay.

893
00:35:54,660 --> 00:35:58,620
- I think that's probably like the one place

894
00:35:58,620 --> 00:36:03,220
that I really play in the way that I would like it.

895
00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:05,620
Like what would be like a dream home?

896
00:36:05,620 --> 00:36:07,700
Like if you went into my Pinterest board

897
00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:10,620
of all these like crazy different homes

898
00:36:10,620 --> 00:36:13,100
that I could absolutely never afford.

899
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:15,540
Like that's what I'm making in the Sims.

900
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:18,260
But a lot of it's like very colorful, very

901
00:36:18,260 --> 00:36:21,020
or Nate I guess.

902
00:36:21,020 --> 00:36:23,740
So, but that's why I always need to do the rosebud

903
00:36:23,740 --> 00:36:25,140
cheat just straight out the gate

904
00:36:25,140 --> 00:36:28,180
because I've got the most expensive furniture.

905
00:36:28,180 --> 00:36:29,700
I'm customized in things.

906
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:31,220
They're comfortable.

907
00:36:31,220 --> 00:36:34,340
Oh my God, we have like a sauna and a home gym.

908
00:36:34,340 --> 00:36:36,340
Like everything that you could imagine

909
00:36:36,340 --> 00:36:38,300
that you want in your house.

910
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:39,140
I love that.

911
00:36:39,140 --> 00:36:39,980
- Yeah.

912
00:36:39,980 --> 00:36:42,860
And I think if there's one common thread among,

913
00:36:42,860 --> 00:36:45,780
I've asked a ton of people this question

914
00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:47,740
of how do you put the Sims do you play yourself?

915
00:36:47,740 --> 00:36:49,100
What do you do within it?

916
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:51,820
If there is one common thread,

917
00:36:51,820 --> 00:36:55,220
everyone is murdering people in the Sims.

918
00:36:55,220 --> 00:36:56,820
- Oh, and you're not murdering people

919
00:36:56,820 --> 00:36:59,260
or are you even playing the Sims?

920
00:36:59,260 --> 00:37:00,260
- Exactly.

921
00:37:00,260 --> 00:37:02,620
And so I'm like, what does that say about us?

922
00:37:02,620 --> 00:37:05,780
Like the second we get these little controllable characters,

923
00:37:05,780 --> 00:37:07,940
we want to just start murdering people.

924
00:37:07,940 --> 00:37:11,580
And I think that really gives me like old testament God.

925
00:37:11,580 --> 00:37:12,580
- Yeah.

926
00:37:12,580 --> 00:37:13,420
- Yeah.

927
00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:16,740
And they become like self-aware in Sims 4 though.

928
00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:19,900
There's this recent update at least in the last two years

929
00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:21,980
where they go like it'll say,

930
00:37:21,980 --> 00:37:24,180
"Oh, Olivia, I can't help shake the feeling

931
00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:26,420
that there's some overarching power

932
00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:28,580
that's controlling her every whim.

933
00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:30,820
Will she ever be in control?"

934
00:37:30,820 --> 00:37:33,020
And they get like really anxious.

935
00:37:33,020 --> 00:37:34,540
And every time that pops up I'm like,

936
00:37:34,540 --> 00:37:36,980
"No, you won't be."

937
00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:37,980
- That's so funny.

938
00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:38,820
- I like that.

939
00:37:38,820 --> 00:37:40,980
- I like the more simulation, simulation

940
00:37:40,980 --> 00:37:42,460
during the time it becomes real.

941
00:37:42,460 --> 00:37:43,500
Oh my God.

942
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:45,300
- With the games.

943
00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:46,900
- Simulation.

944
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:48,380
- Poo.

945
00:37:48,380 --> 00:37:51,420
- My mind is blown.

946
00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:52,420
(laughing)

947
00:37:52,420 --> 00:37:53,980
- Blown.

948
00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:58,940
- And there's so much great things about the Sims.

949
00:37:58,940 --> 00:38:03,620
And I think really that is why the Sims has stuck around

950
00:38:03,620 --> 00:38:08,620
for so long is really we've seen it evolve in iterate

951
00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:10,420
and the way that people play with it.

952
00:38:10,420 --> 00:38:14,540
There's expansion packs, there's modifications

953
00:38:14,540 --> 00:38:19,140
where we're crowdsourcing the Sims development ultimately.

954
00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:20,980
And there's just so much fun.

955
00:38:20,980 --> 00:38:22,740
- Right, and they listen to the fans.

956
00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:26,140
They just brought back the robber who wasn't in Sims 4.

957
00:38:26,140 --> 00:38:27,740
But everyone remembers that robber

958
00:38:27,740 --> 00:38:31,100
from the first games where that creepies it comes on.

959
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,820
And they like, you get so scared.

960
00:38:33,820 --> 00:38:37,220
- I haven't played in, gosh, it's been at least two months now.

961
00:38:37,220 --> 00:38:40,540
So I need to get back on and get my new computer.

962
00:38:40,540 --> 00:38:42,660
- The computer that I play with Sims on

963
00:38:42,660 --> 00:38:44,900
is literally my college computer.

964
00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:47,140
- Oh no, that thing's running.

965
00:38:47,140 --> 00:38:51,500
- Yeah, it literally, yeah, it makes so much noise.

966
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:53,780
I'm like, is this the finished problem?

967
00:38:53,780 --> 00:38:54,620
- Probably.

968
00:38:54,620 --> 00:38:56,140
- So it's like you download too many mods

969
00:38:56,140 --> 00:38:59,020
and it's just like, and it goes so slow.

970
00:38:59,020 --> 00:38:59,860
- Yeah.

971
00:38:59,860 --> 00:39:01,380
- The mods definitely broke it.

972
00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:02,460
- Yeah.

973
00:39:02,460 --> 00:39:03,820
- I need a new computer.

974
00:39:03,820 --> 00:39:06,380
I keep debating like do a buy new computer

975
00:39:06,380 --> 00:39:09,820
just so I can play the Sims, but probably.

976
00:39:09,820 --> 00:39:10,660
- I think so.

977
00:39:10,660 --> 00:39:12,420
- But and record this podcast.

978
00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:14,020
- What are you waiting for?

979
00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:14,860
- Yeah.

980
00:39:14,860 --> 00:39:16,380
(laughing)

981
00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:21,220
So the Sims 5 was in development for a very long time.

982
00:39:21,220 --> 00:39:22,460
They were teasing it.

983
00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:25,580
They were telling us that the Sims 5 is coming.

984
00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:29,140
As of a couple months ago, they're actually canceled

985
00:39:29,140 --> 00:39:32,500
the release of Sims 5.

986
00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:36,060
And they're actually doing, let me actually get the proper name

987
00:39:36,060 --> 00:39:37,140
'cause I was sending it.

988
00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:38,780
So it's called the project.

989
00:39:38,780 --> 00:39:40,580
- Yeah, project, I was calling it Reen,

990
00:39:40,580 --> 00:39:44,420
but like R-E-N-E is--

991
00:39:44,420 --> 00:39:45,260
- That's the idea.

992
00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:46,780
- Reen or Reen.

993
00:39:46,780 --> 00:39:48,860
- Reen, Renee, whatever.

994
00:39:48,860 --> 00:39:50,340
So they canceled the Sims 5

995
00:39:50,340 --> 00:39:53,380
and they're doing project Reen, Renee.

996
00:39:53,380 --> 00:39:57,580
Right now, they have a small group of testers.

997
00:39:57,580 --> 00:40:00,420
So people have actually seen what it looks like

998
00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:01,980
within the project test group.

999
00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:02,820
- Shell.

1000
00:40:02,820 --> 00:40:05,220
- I saw some screenshots within it.

1001
00:40:05,220 --> 00:40:09,740
And ultimately, the Sims games makers, E-A,

1002
00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:13,620
said that because so many people have bought

1003
00:40:13,620 --> 00:40:17,180
all of these expansion packs within the Sims 4,

1004
00:40:17,180 --> 00:40:20,300
if they went to Sims 5, people will lose all that.

1005
00:40:20,300 --> 00:40:22,060
They would really kind of disenfranchise

1006
00:40:22,060 --> 00:40:26,580
all those people who have been their most loyal customers

1007
00:40:26,580 --> 00:40:30,980
and kept that game so popular over time.

1008
00:40:30,980 --> 00:40:33,060
- A lot of people play legacy games too,

1009
00:40:33,060 --> 00:40:37,100
where I said I don't have my character's age.

1010
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:41,220
They'll have two people who have grow up together,

1011
00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:42,780
have babies and then they die.

1012
00:40:42,780 --> 00:40:44,180
And then like, you know what I mean?

1013
00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:47,300
It's like bloodlines that carry on throughout the game.

1014
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:49,660
So I could see that being really frustrating for them,

1015
00:40:49,660 --> 00:40:50,540
losing all of that.

1016
00:40:50,540 --> 00:40:54,100
- Yeah, so they ultimately ditched Sims 5.

1017
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:57,780
And now they are making, you know, it seems like

1018
00:40:57,780 --> 00:40:58,820
we don't know too much,

1019
00:40:58,820 --> 00:41:04,020
but project Reen ultimately is a somewhat of an expansion

1020
00:41:04,020 --> 00:41:07,460
pack, but they have said that it will give you

1021
00:41:07,460 --> 00:41:10,300
multiplayer versions, so you can actually like,

1022
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:13,660
Seanan, I can meet up, our characters can meet up.

1023
00:41:13,660 --> 00:41:16,300
- And get a drink at the casual pint.

1024
00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:17,140
- No.

1025
00:41:17,140 --> 00:41:21,100
- And have relations with a green Mohawk man?

1026
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:22,140
- Yeah.

1027
00:41:22,140 --> 00:41:23,780
Well, I'm gonna make you have relations

1028
00:41:23,780 --> 00:41:27,060
with a green Mohawk man, so you can see what it's like.

1029
00:41:27,060 --> 00:41:28,060
- Okay, that's fair.

1030
00:41:28,060 --> 00:41:28,900
- Yeah.

1031
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:30,100
- Twist my arm.

1032
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:30,900
- Ugh.

1033
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:31,740
- I guess.

1034
00:41:31,740 --> 00:41:33,060
- Yeah.

1035
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:38,060
- And so if you had one wish for the game makers of the Sims,

1036
00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:40,500
I've been listening to too much hunker games

1037
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:43,540
of the game makers of the Sims, what would you ask for?

1038
00:41:43,540 --> 00:41:46,380
Like if you could say I want to be able to do this

1039
00:41:46,380 --> 00:41:48,380
in the Sims, what would it be?

1040
00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:49,860
- I think exactly what you just said,

1041
00:41:49,860 --> 00:41:52,620
multiplayer Sims, like an open world multiplayer

1042
00:41:52,620 --> 00:41:54,020
would be insane.

1043
00:41:54,020 --> 00:41:57,860
Like RPG where we're all just hanging out together

1044
00:41:57,860 --> 00:42:00,580
and going like, you know, store to store.

1045
00:42:00,580 --> 00:42:03,260
Like Sean and Olivia start at the bar

1046
00:42:03,260 --> 00:42:05,140
and then they're taking shots together

1047
00:42:05,140 --> 00:42:07,660
and then they go shopping and then they go eat food.

1048
00:42:07,660 --> 00:42:09,980
You're like, that would be amazing.

1049
00:42:09,980 --> 00:42:13,060
Just like, I don't know, open player multiplayer kind of world,

1050
00:42:13,060 --> 00:42:14,820
open world multiplayer.

1051
00:42:14,820 --> 00:42:17,380
- Yeah, I would say I just asked one thing,

1052
00:42:17,380 --> 00:42:20,940
but since you're asking for buying one thing,

1053
00:42:20,940 --> 00:42:22,300
I can fully agree.

1054
00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:25,660
I want to be able to like go to your town

1055
00:42:25,660 --> 00:42:28,260
and sabotage your town even if you're not online.

1056
00:42:28,260 --> 00:42:30,020
Like I think that'd be so fun.

1057
00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:32,620
- That's messed up.

1058
00:42:32,620 --> 00:42:35,380
- I really want to be able to, you know,

1059
00:42:35,380 --> 00:42:37,860
mess with other people's towns and like go there

1060
00:42:37,860 --> 00:42:41,260
and do things kind of, I guess in animal crossings

1061
00:42:41,260 --> 00:42:44,860
you can't go mess with people's towns unless they're online,

1062
00:42:44,860 --> 00:42:46,860
but I do like that version of it.

1063
00:42:46,860 --> 00:42:51,860
But then I also want them to make the mods into real games

1064
00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:55,380
where it's not cool to you.

1065
00:42:55,380 --> 00:42:57,420
- Yeah, so just break your thing.

1066
00:42:57,420 --> 00:43:00,260
And you know what, I agree, like they already know

1067
00:43:00,260 --> 00:43:03,620
that most adults are downloading wicked whims, right?

1068
00:43:03,620 --> 00:43:07,300
And so make it an 18 plus pack or something somehow.

1069
00:43:07,300 --> 00:43:08,140
I don't know.

1070
00:43:08,140 --> 00:43:10,740
- Yeah, video games still do that, don't they?

1071
00:43:10,740 --> 00:43:12,140
- Yeah, and make us buy it.

1072
00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:13,780
- Right, like 'cause we'll buy it.

1073
00:43:13,780 --> 00:43:15,060
- We have Grand Theft Auto.

1074
00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:17,620
Like let's get GTA,

1075
00:43:17,620 --> 00:43:18,460
- Exactly.

1076
00:43:18,460 --> 00:43:19,300
- And some to have a baby.

1077
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:20,980
I think that'd be so fun.

1078
00:43:20,980 --> 00:43:21,820
- Oh my god, that's awesome.

1079
00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:25,180
- Yeah, I really like the idea of those two things.

1080
00:43:25,180 --> 00:43:30,180
And hopefully we will see some of that with the Sims universe.

1081
00:43:30,180 --> 00:43:39,500
While Sean and I could go on for hours and hours

1082
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:40,620
talking about the Sims,

1083
00:43:40,620 --> 00:43:43,620
if you can't tell, it's one of our passions.

1084
00:43:43,620 --> 00:43:46,060
We have spent hours talking about this

1085
00:43:46,060 --> 00:43:48,460
even outside of this podcast episode.

1086
00:43:48,460 --> 00:43:53,380
But one thing that was announced shortly after the Barbie movie,

1087
00:43:53,380 --> 00:43:56,740
which if you've never listened to our Barbie episode,

1088
00:43:56,740 --> 00:43:59,340
it's one of our most popular episodes of all time.

1089
00:43:59,340 --> 00:44:01,740
- Hi, Miss, we love the Barbie movie.

1090
00:44:01,740 --> 00:44:04,740
- We go really, really deep into the movie,

1091
00:44:04,740 --> 00:44:08,780
the Barbie universe as a whole, things around that.

1092
00:44:08,780 --> 00:44:12,100
And it's just a great listen if I do say so myself.

1093
00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:14,540
But as soon as I do say so, too yourself.

1094
00:44:14,540 --> 00:44:16,460
- Yeah, myself, you too.

1095
00:44:16,460 --> 00:44:18,380
- Yes, me, so you too say so.

1096
00:44:18,380 --> 00:44:20,020
(laughing)

1097
00:44:20,020 --> 00:44:24,260
And one of the things that was announced right after the Barbie movie

1098
00:44:24,260 --> 00:44:28,500
was that there was a Sims movie in the works

1099
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:31,620
and Lucky Chap Entertainment was the one

1100
00:44:31,620 --> 00:44:33,380
who secured the rights.

1101
00:44:33,380 --> 00:44:35,300
Now if you're thinking Lucky Chap,

1102
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:37,060
that sounds super familiar.

1103
00:44:37,060 --> 00:44:41,340
I wanted only our queen Margot Robbie got her hands

1104
00:44:41,340 --> 00:44:43,980
on the Sims movie.

1105
00:44:43,980 --> 00:44:47,740
I wanna hear your thoughts on the Sims movie.

1106
00:44:47,740 --> 00:44:49,700
We obviously just spent a lot of time on it,

1107
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:52,940
but really quickly, Amazon and GM Studios

1108
00:44:52,940 --> 00:44:54,980
is involved in the production.

1109
00:44:54,980 --> 00:44:58,140
Katie Heron, who directed Loki.

1110
00:44:58,140 --> 00:45:00,700
- Katie Heron, it's Kate.

1111
00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:01,700
- For me, girls.

1112
00:45:01,700 --> 00:45:03,060
(laughing)

1113
00:45:03,060 --> 00:45:06,860
- Kate Heron, who directed Loki,

1114
00:45:06,860 --> 00:45:10,180
the TV series, which you're a big fan of.

1115
00:45:10,180 --> 00:45:11,020
- I am.

1116
00:45:11,020 --> 00:45:14,300
- Is going to co-write the screenplay

1117
00:45:14,300 --> 00:45:17,180
with Breonnie Redmond.

1118
00:45:17,180 --> 00:45:20,220
And so it is kind of interesting because

1119
00:45:20,220 --> 00:45:23,580
from what I know about Loki, it's a multiverse, right?

1120
00:45:23,580 --> 00:45:25,140
- It is.

1121
00:45:25,140 --> 00:45:26,500
I'm thinking the only thing.

1122
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:28,980
First of all, I'm sus of this, right?

1123
00:45:28,980 --> 00:45:29,980
- Oh, really?

1124
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:33,380
- I am, but having it involved with Margot Robbie

1125
00:45:33,380 --> 00:45:35,780
makes me feel more confident about it

1126
00:45:35,780 --> 00:45:36,860
because I do like her work.

1127
00:45:36,860 --> 00:45:38,180
I think she's very talented.

1128
00:45:38,180 --> 00:45:39,820
Barbie was amazing.

1129
00:45:39,820 --> 00:45:42,340
So that makes me feel a little better about it.

1130
00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:45,860
I do also hope that it doesn't fall into this trap

1131
00:45:45,860 --> 00:45:50,860
of the emoji movie and, oh gosh, angry birds movie.

1132
00:45:50,860 --> 00:45:54,300
And like every, you know what I'm trying to say?

1133
00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:56,660
Every little video game and every little thing

1134
00:45:56,660 --> 00:45:58,580
needs a movie now.

1135
00:45:58,580 --> 00:45:59,860
Minecraft movie.

1136
00:45:59,860 --> 00:46:03,220
And then there are always just trash money grabs.

1137
00:46:03,220 --> 00:46:06,860
But then, you know, bar fee, bar fee, the bar fee movie.

1138
00:46:06,860 --> 00:46:09,780
(laughing)

1139
00:46:09,780 --> 00:46:11,140
It's gonna be the sequel.

1140
00:46:11,140 --> 00:46:13,860
The Barbie movie.

1141
00:46:15,780 --> 00:46:17,940
I think it was mixing Buffy and Barbie.

1142
00:46:17,940 --> 00:46:19,660
- Yeah. - So I came out bar fee.

1143
00:46:19,660 --> 00:46:21,460
- It's okay, we know, we know.

1144
00:46:21,460 --> 00:46:22,380
- Barbie was good.

1145
00:46:22,380 --> 00:46:24,820
It was based off of a toy and it was very good.

1146
00:46:24,820 --> 00:46:26,860
The Ouija porn movies have been good.

1147
00:46:26,860 --> 00:46:29,620
But then they're making, I don't know,

1148
00:46:29,620 --> 00:46:31,860
there's some other, oh, the Lego movies have been good.

1149
00:46:31,860 --> 00:46:33,780
I don't know, it could be very hit and missed with me

1150
00:46:33,780 --> 00:46:38,260
when it comes to turning a toy or a video game

1151
00:46:38,260 --> 00:46:40,260
or something like that into a movie.

1152
00:46:40,260 --> 00:46:41,300
Do you know what I mean?

1153
00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:45,340
So I'm nervous, but I'm gonna watch it.

1154
00:46:45,340 --> 00:46:47,660
And I think the only way that they could go with it

1155
00:46:47,660 --> 00:46:50,100
is doing all of this stuff that we talked about

1156
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,460
this whole episode, all of the lore.

1157
00:46:52,460 --> 00:46:55,780
- Yes, so I think it go a few ways.

1158
00:46:55,780 --> 00:47:00,460
I think that it could be all about simulation theory.

1159
00:47:00,460 --> 00:47:03,820
And like what I said, whatever we're just people

1160
00:47:03,820 --> 00:47:06,980
and like where the sims and God is playing us.

1161
00:47:06,980 --> 00:47:10,940
- Yes, ultimately, like that is such a common theory

1162
00:47:10,940 --> 00:47:12,060
and belief now.

1163
00:47:12,060 --> 00:47:15,780
Like when the Matrix came out, that was a crazy idea.

1164
00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:19,820
But then now you look at kind of like where we are today

1165
00:47:19,820 --> 00:47:21,100
and being in a simulation.

1166
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:23,540
Like people are just going for a show.

1167
00:47:23,540 --> 00:47:28,300
- Yes, much more open to that kind of thought and thinking.

1168
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:30,660
And so I think that it could be that.

1169
00:47:30,660 --> 00:47:35,140
I also see it really living within the sims lore

1170
00:47:35,140 --> 00:47:38,020
that we discussed earlier as well.

1171
00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:42,660
And then just like crazy, funny, wild, like things like that.

1172
00:47:42,660 --> 00:47:44,140
- Yeah, it's gotta be funny for sure.

1173
00:47:44,140 --> 00:47:46,420
We have to have Don Lathario, we have to have Belagoth

1174
00:47:46,420 --> 00:47:48,860
and aliens, it's gotta be Goofy.

1175
00:47:48,860 --> 00:47:52,780
- Yeah, and it's like we're gonna have a ladder taken out.

1176
00:47:52,780 --> 00:47:55,380
There's gonna be like a lot of fan service,

1177
00:47:55,380 --> 00:47:56,580
but I think not.

1178
00:47:56,580 --> 00:48:00,860
Up until very recently, like video games turned into shows

1179
00:48:00,860 --> 00:48:04,780
or movies has not really gone well.

1180
00:48:04,780 --> 00:48:07,900
Like up until, I mean, there are some good ones.

1181
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:11,620
I think the Last of Us, which comes out in a couple weeks.

1182
00:48:11,620 --> 00:48:13,380
- I don't know how excited I am.

1183
00:48:13,380 --> 00:48:16,020
- It's usually with like first-person shooters though.

1184
00:48:16,020 --> 00:48:21,020
So it's like Tomb Raider, Max Payne, The Last of Us.

1185
00:48:21,020 --> 00:48:22,340
There have been a lot of them,

1186
00:48:22,340 --> 00:48:27,340
but they haven't really been these like open world kind of games.

1187
00:48:27,340 --> 00:48:31,220
- But I would take people like hated some of those as well.

1188
00:48:31,220 --> 00:48:34,100
Like The Last of Us was widely received

1189
00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:38,860
and people loved it, but a lot of fans of The Last of Us

1190
00:48:38,860 --> 00:48:41,860
were like so afraid of it being turned into a TV show.

1191
00:48:41,860 --> 00:48:42,700
- Oh, for sure.

1192
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:43,540
I was afraid too.

1193
00:48:43,540 --> 00:48:44,980
I'm afraid for season two to come out,

1194
00:48:44,980 --> 00:48:47,220
especially if you know what goes down.

1195
00:48:47,220 --> 00:48:48,060
- I don't.

1196
00:48:48,060 --> 00:48:49,380
- Oh my God, I will not spoil it.

1197
00:48:49,380 --> 00:48:50,660
I will not spoil it.

1198
00:48:50,660 --> 00:48:54,740
But yeah, but then like the Borderlands movie crashed and burned.

1199
00:48:54,740 --> 00:48:55,580
- Yeah.

1200
00:48:55,580 --> 00:48:57,140
- But again, that's like a first-person shooter.

1201
00:48:57,140 --> 00:49:01,620
So I'm interested and I'm hesitant,

1202
00:49:01,620 --> 00:49:03,620
but I think it's in good hands.

1203
00:49:03,620 --> 00:49:05,300
- It's in good hands.

1204
00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:07,980
- Yeah, I ultimately think that Margot Robbie

1205
00:49:07,980 --> 00:49:12,980
like would not stake her reputation straight out of Barbie

1206
00:49:12,980 --> 00:49:18,940
if she didn't believe that she could create a great movie

1207
00:49:18,940 --> 00:49:24,380
with Kate Herron and Brianna Redmond.

1208
00:49:24,380 --> 00:49:27,260
Like I think there's so much.

1209
00:49:27,260 --> 00:49:30,860
Like we just talked about like a few families within.

1210
00:49:30,860 --> 00:49:32,780
- Yeah, but there's so much.

1211
00:49:32,780 --> 00:49:34,100
One game, right?

1212
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:35,620
And there's all these different things.

1213
00:49:35,620 --> 00:49:38,140
And it could be like, oh, I moved into this one.

1214
00:49:38,140 --> 00:49:40,820
Like it could even be like moving through the games

1215
00:49:40,820 --> 00:49:41,820
the way we play that.

1216
00:49:41,820 --> 00:49:43,820
- Yeah, there's like a whole haunted one.

1217
00:49:43,820 --> 00:49:45,180
There's ghosts.

1218
00:49:45,180 --> 00:49:47,660
Like you can summon the dead.

1219
00:49:47,660 --> 00:49:50,580
Yeah, there's so many things that they could do.

1220
00:49:50,580 --> 00:49:51,580
- I do.

1221
00:49:51,580 --> 00:49:54,220
Like my biggest hope is simulation theory

1222
00:49:54,220 --> 00:49:55,980
because I think that would be a really crazy

1223
00:49:55,980 --> 00:49:58,660
like psychological thriller.

1224
00:49:58,660 --> 00:50:01,300
- Oh my God, what if it's a psychological thriller?

1225
00:50:01,300 --> 00:50:03,020
I would love that too.

1226
00:50:03,020 --> 00:50:04,020
It's not a comedy.

1227
00:50:04,020 --> 00:50:05,740
It's just a straight up mind-fucked.

1228
00:50:05,740 --> 00:50:08,660
Just, oh my God, is any of this real?

1229
00:50:08,660 --> 00:50:09,500
I love that.

1230
00:50:09,500 --> 00:50:10,340
- Yeah, right?

1231
00:50:10,340 --> 00:50:13,700
I think there's so much stuff that that could ultimately happen

1232
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:15,260
within that movie.

1233
00:50:15,260 --> 00:50:18,660
So when I was doing the research for this episode

1234
00:50:18,660 --> 00:50:20,380
and building everything out,

1235
00:50:20,380 --> 00:50:22,820
I feel like I was kind of like you

1236
00:50:22,820 --> 00:50:25,380
where I was like, that could be really, really bad,

1237
00:50:25,380 --> 00:50:28,900
but really going through the history of the movie

1238
00:50:28,900 --> 00:50:31,740
or of the movie, of the game itself

1239
00:50:31,740 --> 00:50:33,500
and all that lore within it,

1240
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:37,420
I think that it can be really, really cool.

1241
00:50:37,420 --> 00:50:41,860
And we have our trust in Margot Robbie.

1242
00:50:41,860 --> 00:50:43,020
- We do.

1243
00:50:43,020 --> 00:50:46,500
I think we're gonna watch it no matter what.

1244
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:47,340
- Yeah.

1245
00:50:47,340 --> 00:50:49,120
- We'll just do it and see I suppose.

1246
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:49,960
- Absolutely.

1247
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,260
We're gonna get little green orbs up of our head

1248
00:50:52,260 --> 00:50:53,860
and dress up-- - Pleboms.

1249
00:50:53,860 --> 00:50:56,220
- Pleboms. - Well, pleboms.

1250
00:50:56,220 --> 00:50:56,860
Pleboms. - Pleboms.

1251
00:50:56,860 --> 00:50:58,020
- Pleboms. - Hello, yeah.

1252
00:50:58,020 --> 00:50:58,860
- Pleboms.

1253
00:50:58,860 --> 00:51:00,700
- We're gonna be talking about Sims, all over.

1254
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:02,940
- What's the, I feel like I always,

1255
00:51:02,940 --> 00:51:04,300
about in Grovy?

1256
00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:05,460
Oh, yes.

1257
00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:07,660
(laughing)

1258
00:51:07,660 --> 00:51:09,820
- So so. - Yeah, I mean,

1259
00:51:09,820 --> 00:51:12,420
oh my God, I feel like they're a bunch of famous artists.

1260
00:51:12,420 --> 00:51:15,700
I wish I would have pulled this that have done songs for.

1261
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:16,540
- Yes.

1262
00:51:16,540 --> 00:51:19,740
- Yes, I do know Katy Perry re-recorded last Friday night,

1263
00:51:19,740 --> 00:51:20,900
but in Simlish.

1264
00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:24,020
And so it's just a bunch of gibberish.

1265
00:51:24,020 --> 00:51:25,980
And that is so funny.

1266
00:51:25,980 --> 00:51:28,060
So if you turn on the radio and the Sims for people

1267
00:51:28,060 --> 00:51:31,620
who don't know, you can turn it to different genre stations.

1268
00:51:31,620 --> 00:51:34,220
And sometimes if you turn it to the pop station,

1269
00:51:34,220 --> 00:51:36,060
you'll go, wait, I know this song,

1270
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:38,460
but it is in the Sim language.

1271
00:51:38,460 --> 00:51:40,060
Simlish. - Yes.

1272
00:51:40,060 --> 00:51:42,500
- So some of them are last Friday night

1273
00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:46,020
by Katy Perry pocketful sunshine.

1274
00:51:46,020 --> 00:51:47,940
Don'tcha by the post-catch.

1275
00:51:47,940 --> 00:51:48,940
- Yes.

1276
00:51:48,940 --> 00:51:52,300
- Smile, shut up by the black eyed peas.

1277
00:51:52,300 --> 00:51:56,300
Nana, na, pressure need you more than alive.

1278
00:51:56,300 --> 00:51:57,980
So there's some really fun ones.

1279
00:51:57,980 --> 00:51:59,420
- Oh yeah. - Like, chemical romance did it.

1280
00:51:59,420 --> 00:52:00,260
- Yeah. - Yeah.

1281
00:52:00,260 --> 00:52:01,100
- I love that.

1282
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:03,460
I respect artists you can have fun like that.

1283
00:52:03,460 --> 00:52:05,900
- There's some really great Easter eggs within that.

1284
00:52:05,900 --> 00:52:08,700
And yeah, I mean, the Sims is an iconic game.

1285
00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:09,540
We love it.

1286
00:52:09,540 --> 00:52:13,940
And, you know, unfortunately, it is time to go back

1287
00:52:13,940 --> 00:52:16,300
to our real life now.

1288
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:18,460
- No. - And we can't stay in Sim City.

1289
00:52:18,460 --> 00:52:19,980
I mean, I won't do this.

1290
00:52:19,980 --> 00:52:21,820
- Sim City is kind of your real life.

1291
00:52:21,820 --> 00:52:23,460
- You're too freaking weirdo.

1292
00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:27,980
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1293
00:52:27,980 --> 00:52:31,140
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1294
00:52:31,140 --> 00:52:33,940
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1295
00:52:33,940 --> 00:52:36,260
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1296
00:52:36,260 --> 00:52:40,540
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1297
00:52:40,540 --> 00:52:44,500
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1298
00:52:44,500 --> 00:52:49,500
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1299
00:52:50,260 --> 00:52:53,060
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1300
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1301
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1302
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1303
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rate, and review the show.

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Tell us how you feel about the episodes,

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how you play the Sims.

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We would love to hear it.

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Our DMs are always open.

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We'd love to chat with you guys

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and get to know you a little bit more.

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Here's some feedback on our lovely Sim Play.

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Tell Shauna she's weird.

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And McDonald's orgies are not weird.

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- Or maybe you say stop pulling her, Olivia,

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I play the Sims in the same way, don't fall,

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but you can dream.

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- Okay.

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- But also, like we mentioned at the top of the episode,

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we do have a Patreon and ultimately,

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reviews, rating us, really, really helps us

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be, or joining the Patreon, whatever you can give.

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And I hope so, I'll bring you more

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of the best pop culture we can.

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You can find us on Patreon at patreon.com/popculturejunkiepodcast.

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Sign it for a sneak peek

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or get a super special shout out from us.

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Say that five times fast.

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- Super special shout out from us.

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- Super special shout out from us.

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- Super special shout out from us.

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- Yeah, so you can tell us.

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I'm speaking similar, sure, already.

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- And come back next time for another hit of Pop Culture.

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(upbeat music)

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- The Pop Culture Junkie podcast is produced by Jeff Markin

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and Cheryl Lightfoot, for the Pop Culture Entertainment Network.

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♪ So entertain me, entertain me right now ♪

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♪ I need it, bad ♪

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♪ I need it bad ♪

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♪ 'Cause I need it, bad ♪

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