♪ Made a decision on me ♪
♪ I'll face the sunny sun ♪
♪ What on a head of vision ♪
♪ What is life be like? ♪
- What's up everybody?
Welcome to Fridays for Crying Out Loud.
- Woohoo! - Woo-hoo!
- Week!
Yeah, I hope we had a good Labor Day.
(laughs)
I bet we did knowing us.
- Yeah, we probably had a great time.
- And you probably have your car by now.
- You know what?
I probably do, maybe.
I don't know.
- I almost said it. - I want to run now.
(laughs)
Well, I am, yeah, we're recording this on Sunday.
We're so early, we're so on top of things.
- Yes.
We're not gonna take a day off just because, you know,
we want to continue our show.
We're not gonna work on Labor Day 'cause it's Labor Day.
- Yeah.
- And this is very laborious.
(laughs)
It's so hard, you guys.
I came in my flip flops.
I literally went in my flip flops.
I was thinking before I came, I was like,
this is the only job that like,
I never have to get dressed for.
I mean, in my pajamas, like if I sleep in a shirt
the night before, I'll just wear it.
(laughs)
I know.
But I have been going to the gym a lot.
Here's the problem though.
Like yesterday, 'cause I can just be real with you.
- Yeah.
- I go to the gym, I work out hard.
I'm like upping my level all the time.
Nothing's changing, but it's proper.
But then like last night I ate like almost a whole bag
of chocolate covered pretzels.
- I love chocolate covered pretzels.
- And it's like, I know that things would move faster
if I cut out sugar.
I know this, but there's something about like working out
and then it's making me hungry.
And then I'm like, I'll just have a couple.
- Right, you would eat the bag.
- And then like, John will have like three.
And then I'm like, oh my God, what happened all the pretzels?
(laughs)
John's like, will you eat them?
And I'm like, why did you let me eat them all?
Why didn't you have more?
- Well, it's, so you've inspired me.
So I've gone to the gym.
Not, probably not as much as you.
Maybe like, I've gone twice, but anyway.
At least I've gone.
- That's a lot.
- But then yesterday, well Saturday was college football day.
Oh, did LB go to the UCLA game?
- No, she did not.
- Saturday night.
- We watched it.
Well, when I say watched it, I was also playing on my phone.
But yeah, it was bad.
- Yeah, I mean, I don't, 'cause Sunny,
okay, Sunny went and got his old TV out of the garage
and put it in our living room.
So we have now two TVs in my living room.
And he just was watching.
- Yeah, so he could watch two different games.
- All the games.
- He turned your house into a sports bar?
- Yes, it looks like a sports bar.
And like his friend came over for a while.
Anyway, so I came home.
I was starving after the gym.
So I'm like, let's order pizza, guys.
(laughing)
- Oh my God.
- And he was so much.
- And mozzarella sticks.
Yes, with the marinara sauce.
And don't think I didn't eat a shit out of that.
So yeah, I know what if you're--
- I went to the gym.
Like, I feel like, okay, I earned it.
(laughing)
Where's my parade?
- I know, this is what I'm saying.
It's like, it's almost making it worse
'cause I'm like, well, I can have some chocolate-covered
pretzels and some sour jelly beans
because I mean, I worked hard.
- Yeah, you're up in your level.
- Yeah.
(laughing)
- Who's the one who went from an eight to a nine?
Me.
- Right.
- And John go to the gym?
- No, that's right.
- So I should be able to eat most of the chocolate-covered
pretzels.
- Yeah.
- But then I'm mad because I'm not like losing any weight.
- You don't need to lose weight.
- I need to lose some weight to get into my clothes again.
I would like to be able to wear some of my clothes.
- Where are you going?
(laughing)
- Which leads me to the fact that like,
I'm like, do I wanna put on jeans?
- No, I don't.
- Right.
- I don't wanna wear anything with a waistband.
(laughing)
- Elastic.
When I was a kid,
all the old ladies wore polyester pants.
- Yes, right.
- And they had an elastic waistband.
And now I get it.
- Yeah, now you get it.
Now I get it.
- I had to get dressed twice this weekend
for my birthday and took all the energy out of me.
Like put the jeans on and put the dress,
you know, the shirt and then like, you know,
makeup and then now I gotta wash the mascara off
which it comes off easy with the thrive.
But you know what I mean?
Like hair, fixing the hair,
it's just a whole 'cause shot.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't go out that much anymore.
- I've gotten to the level where I'm like,
okay, well, who am I going to dinner with?
Like, I'm just going to dinner with like my friend Sassali.
So like, do I really need to wear makeup?
Like, who am I trying to impress?
- Yeah, I really love you.
- And then I convinced myself.
I'm like, all right, things are getting bad.
Like, you could put on a little, like,
'cause I remember being young and thinking that my mom,
like wishing my mom would wear some makeup once in a while
'cause my mom was oh, natural all the time.
- Right.
- Had the hairy armpits, hairy legs.
She did not shave.
- Yeah.
- And it was not cool like Madonna.
Like it was like-
- Well then I had the opposite.
I had a mom that wore short shorts and a short tank top
and then says white payless high heel shoes,
you know, in her convertible Mustang.
Woo!
(laughs)
It was embarrassing.
- Did she want you to like wear makeup too?
- Yes.
And then she would always be like,
"Linette, they'll put the sum of makeup on."
You got to the boyfriend coming over.
You better put a sum of makeup.
And then always she would pull my hair out of a ponytail.
And you know who else did that?
Was an Italia before she could even speak.
She would be in the backseat of my car
and she would always pull my hair out of it
'cause she wanted me to look pretty.
So when I went out to dinner with an Italia
for my birthday, of course I got, like look nice.
And she was like, "Oh my God, you look so good."
Yeah, 'cause she hasn't seen me, you know,
in makeup in a long time.
- Right, right.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
I just so rarely put on makeup or,
and I need to buy contact lenses,
but here's the problem.
I can wear contacts now
'cause I don't have the stribusiness
that might your own stribus.
- Do you?
(laughs)
- That surgery a long time ago,
which the whole point of it was so that
I could wear contact lenses again.
- Oh yeah.
- And then I was like, "Well, the contact lenses,
but I aged during the time that I started
having the double vision.
I also aged to the point that I can't see close up."
- Right.
- So I have to have the progressive contacts.
I'm so spoiled by my glasses that I can see close
and I can look far.
- Right.
- And for a while I was wearing the glasses
and you were like, "Why are you putting the paper
when I would read that in front of your face?"
- It's on the answer.
- 'Cause I couldn't see.
I had to have glasses off to see close.
Anyway, the contact lenses,
I can't, the progressives,
they don't work that well for me.
So for, I guess I'm in this percentage of people
that my brain doesn't help me,
doesn't let the contacts close.
- Right.
- So I could wear them and then I could take readers
and throw readers on to look at a menu.
But I'm so lazy that every time I think like,
I could step it up a little bit, put some contacts in
and like look nice.
- Yeah.
- I can just put my glasses in be comfortable.
- I like you in your glasses.
I'm so, I can't imagine seeing you without glasses now.
- I just like don't care.
I don't care.
- Yeah.
- I'm in the eye of the care club.
- Right.
- That's right.
- We don't care.
We're in the eye, don't care.
- We don't care.
We will grow up on our toes.
I don't, I'll still wear flip flops.
My tonal polish is fully like chipped off of my toes.
Does it stop me from wearing flip flops?
- No.
- Yeah.
- No, no, we're in the eye, I don't care.
- Yeah, fuck.
(laughing)
It's so hard to care.
- I know, I know.
- You know what happened is like somewhere along the way,
no guys think I'm cute.
Like I got old and so it's not like anybody
at a construction site is gonna like
sell it me anymore.
So I got kind of invisible
and then I felt sad about it for a while.
Like this is the God's honest truth.
For a while I was like, wow.
Like no guys see me as like a sexual being anymore
except my husband, you know?
And then I was like, well, the care is.
Then why do I need to wear makeup?
- Right.
- Right, exactly.
- Right.
- Why do I need to dress up?
Why do I need to be skinny?
Why do I need to?
Like I know I just started all this
by saying I wanna lose weight,
but that's about my clothes.
- Yeah.
- That's not because I think I need to be
at a certain number on the scale to be.
- Right.
- For what reason?
- Right.
- Yeah.
- I want, I also, I went back to the gym
and this is the truth.
And I've seen some people talking about this on Facebook
because I wanted to do weight training
because I wanna be healthy.
- Yes.
- 'Cause it's not good for you to not do
- Do work out.
- Right.
- And you're an age 'cause you're bones and like,
- Yes.
- Your health.
- Yeah.
- So I really went back for that,
but then when you're gonna go to the gym,
of course you should do some cardio.
- Yeah.
- You're not gonna just go do weight.
- You have to do both.
- Yeah.
- You should do both.
- Yeah.
- I do both every time I go.
- Yeah, me too.
- But I'm just saying like the,
the impetus wasn't like,
oh my god, I'm so fat I need to go to the gym.
It was, I wanna be healthy.
- Healthy.
- But now that I'm going to the gym,
I'm like, why am I not skinny?
And then I'm like, do I need to do the GLP ones?
Like we keep reading ads for them and I'm like,
maybe I should do that.
But then I'm like, I think I could just like,
try to not eat chocolate covered pretzels.
- Right.
- And then I get like motivated.
And then I order a pizza, yeah.
(laughs)
- Let's see.
- And go while we're at it.
- Right, right.
- mozzarella sticks.
And now that I've had all that savory,
like how about something sweet?
- Sweet.
(laughs)
- I get it.
I think a lot of women are aged at go through this, you know?
It's so funny.
I used to when I was in my 30s and 40s,
this is a little different off topic,
but I used to love watching movies that were like,
like, you know, women that are older,
but like having a fair with a younger guy or whatever.
So there's a movie with Nicole Kidman and it's on Max,
and it's called Baby Girl.
- Uh-huh.
- And I used to when I would, so I,
but now I just watched it the other night.
And I was like, "Uh, whatever."
And maybe it's the movie, but I would,
like, I would lose myself in that fantasy,
but now I look at it as like,
"Oh, I wonder if she was uncomfortable in that scene."
I wonder if they had an intimacy coordinator in that scene.
Or what is he, you know what I mean?
Or what is she wearing underneath that?
He's really grabbing onto her tit.
Like now I look at it that way.
Whereas before when I was younger,
I had this libido,
I'd be like, "Yeah, show me more."
Like, you know what I mean?
- Yes. - And now I'm like,
"Oh my God, am I getting old?"
Like, it doesn't, you know?
And then I think too, like, is the actor,
like I would never date somebody of this age in real life.
- Right.
Like, and Nicole Kidman's beautiful, but I'm saying,
is the actor like, really?
I couldn't have booked a part like,
opposite like a 20-year-old?
- Yeah, I will.
And also is he getting hard?
You know, I think about that.
- Oh my God, and he can't.
- Because she isn't, is she like,
dude, what the fuck?
- Right, 'cause she was doing a love scene with,
what's his name?
Oh boy.
He's an older, he's like a famous actor.
- Strong Connery?
- No, kind of.
Antonio Benderis.
- Oh, okay.
- So she was doing a love scene with him.
You know, they're the same age.
And they were really going out and I was like,
I wonder if he gets hard, you know?
I mean, that's how I'm looking at these movies now.
- Right. - You know what I mean?
- Yes.
- And it's like, "Oh God, I guess I'm getting old."
But, it's weird to get old because it's like,
I mean, I know we all say this as we're getting older.
I know we all are like, but inside I feel like I'm still like 25.
But the truth is I don't anymore inside feel 25 either.
- Yeah.
- Like I'm not, I mean, I think I still feel like
I'm in my 40s.
- Right, me too.
- That's about where I'm arrested.
- Yeah.
- I definitely don't feel late 50s.
I feel 40s, I feel like I've lived a lot of life.
But I don't feel like I know I look, which is like a grandma.
Like I don't feel like I'm always shocked
when I see like myself in the camera.
- I hate you.
- And I'm like, "Oh my gosh!"
(laughing)
I don't know when this happened because,
but then I swear to God, I saw a photo of myself
from 10 years ago and my all the crazy amount of lines
I have around my eyes, same thing.
- And I was like, "Okay, so then I was in my 40s still."
- Right.
- It's not like that much worse.
- Yeah.
- I mean, it's all, you know, how you feel, you know.
And that's--
- But it's not.
(laughing)
It's not like that.
- This is depressing.
- Okay, but here's another thing, like,
that I go like, I guess I am getting older
because the other day, Elby was like, "Mom,
would you still like, if we went to Magic Mountain,
would you still wanna go on like roller coasters?"
- Oh.
- And I'm like, I think so.
But then I tried to like, think about it.
I didn't share this with her, but I was like,
"What, I though?"
- I don't know.
- I know.
- I think it would make me sick.
I think I'm more sensitive to that stuff now.
- I think I would be like trying to hold,
like, support my neck the whole time.
- Yes, exactly.
Like, just gonna hurt my back.
- Yes.
- Right, right.
- Right.
- But go like, you know, to hang out with your daughter,
that'd be fun.
- Yeah, but like, I used to up until not that long ago.
- That's true.
- I loved it.
Like, I still loved roller coasters.
- Right.
- And now I'd be like, "It's kinda hot."
I'm like, I know.
And the food's really pricey.
Like, I don't know.
I think I would be worried about a lot of like,
different things.
- Right, right.
Yeah.
I know.
- Now I'd be like, you know what I like is a nice dinner.
- That's what I like.
I know.
Like, so sunny went to the UCLA game last night.
And, you know, I thought to myself,
"Oh, God, have fun."
Like, I wouldn't wanna, you know,
you set me videos of it, you know, and stuff.
And it's like, "Ugh."
That just sounds like not my scene.
Like, good, you go.
- Well, remember a year ago.
- I do.
- I went and I thought it was gonna be all kinds of fun.
And it was basically anxiety about where we parked.
- Right.
- It was like, I mean, a lot of people drinking.
- Drinking, I know.
- They're doing shots?
- Yeah.
- Like, in the middle of the day.
- There's something about people in my own age,
like, doing shots.
- Right.
- That, and I don't think it's just 'cause I'm sober.
There's just something about like,
- Are you over there?
- So responsible.
- Right.
- Like, are you gonna get drunk?
And like, your kids are here.
- I know, they tailgate and stuff.
They start so early in the day and they, like,
barbecue and they set up and, yeah, no.
And there's so many parents that are so into it.
- So into it.
- Yeah.
- And I'm like, no, no, no.
- And then I'm like, am I a bad person
that you have no interest in going to a game this year?
- Yeah.
- So she didn't wanna go.
- No, she was working.
Well, she's not even in school yet.
That's true.
So, no, she was not interested.
And in fact, John, before she was leaving for work,
but she was getting home early,
John was like, well, do you have any plans tonight?
And she was like, I don't know.
Why?
He was like, well, hello.
Kind of like, sunny with your birthday.
- Yeah.
- She was like, I don't know what are you getting at?
And he's like, there was a game on tonight.
And she was like, he goes, a UCLA game.
- Right.
- And she went, oh.
So she didn't even care.
- So she didn't care.
- So wait, you were gonna tell us something about Zander.
Oh, so Zander got a gig.
I think I told you about this last week maybe,
but he and his band are playing a bar
and I'm getting videos are coming in.
Are you serious right now?
- Right now, I'm getting videos that he's,
I'm, okay.
Let's see, I will play, let's see, I'll just hit play.
- Oh my gosh.
- He's having right now.
(upbeat music)
Is this you got a fight for your right to party?
- It could be, do they play that?
(upbeat music)
- Well, I'll spare you more, but they were playing jump.
- Oh my god, I wanna hear them.
- We were playing band hailey.
- Jump, no way.
- One of their songs that they learned is Surrender.
- Oh, is she trick?
- Yes, mom is all right.
Daddy's all right.
They just seem a little weird Surrender.
- Yup, he learned that song.
- So they're playing a two hour gig.
- Oh my god. - And they play good.
- So they left Friday after school.
Okay, I wanna say because, you know,
I'm the first person to like kind of complain about,
you know, doing everything for the kids
and like the parents that are uninvolved.
This family, so one of the parents
of one of the other bandmates booked them the gig.
One of the other parents was like,
"Hey, we have a place the kids can stay," and like, "Arohead."
So we wanted them to make it like a weekend.
- Totally, that's great.
- That's so great.
- The Santa was so excited about it.
Remember, I think I told you last week
that he did his comedy class and then he had to,
he couldn't do the showcase.
- Yes.
- He couldn't do the show because this kid is double booked.
- Right.
- He's got a gig.
- Yeah.
Okay.
- So. - So, live in his best life.
- So I, they had a rehearsal like two days before
the, the, the, the, leaving for the show.
And, Zander was like, "Hey, do you want to talk to the mom?"
Like, and I said, "Oh, okay, sure."
So I see her in her car and I was like, "Hey, so,
yeah, so I got her number and I texted her."
And I was like, and she saw all the gear the kids had the,
the, the, the, the, the Courtney made them and she was like, "It's so cool. That's really cute."
Anyway, so I texted her and I was like, "Hey, so they're leaving Friday after school."
And I, I knew no information about it.
And I was like, "Hey, so what's the plan for like groceries for their meals?"
Obviously, all sends Zander with money, but like, can I Venmo you for,
do you want, like, Venmo you now for like,
I'm sure you're gonna go buy supplies.
- Right, right.
- And then do you want me to Venmo you now or later?
And she was like, "No, no, no, it's like our treat."
Now there's, there whole band.
- No. - Five of them.
So I was like, "No, that's crazy.
You can't enter, and they were going Friday after school,
staying Friday night, Saturday night, and Sunday night."
- Wow. - 'Cause the gig is tonight.
- Right, right, right, right now.
- Right.
- So if you're a sleepover again tonight.
So I was like, no, that is five kids for all those days.
That's a lot of, and she's like, it's my parents house.
It's the grandparents house.
And she's like, they're really excited to host the kids.
They've already planned out all the meals.
We got it, don't worry about it.
- That's so huge to that.
- Yeah.
- I was like, where have you been my whole life?
- I know, I feel so bad.
Are you sure I can't like give you somebody?
- Yeah.
- And she's like, honestly, it's our pleasure.
So I'm like, okay.
So then, Friday night, Zander sends me,
I'm like, so, how is everything?
He sends me a picture of this house.
It is insane.
It's like a mansion in Arrowhead.
It's four stories.
- Wow. - It's huge mungus.
I was like, what?
It looked, that looks like a hotel.
He's like, that's their house.
He goes, and then it's connected to it.
There's an entire apartment.
It's like a guest, really?
He goes, but it's connected and we get that.
The whole band is-- - No way!
That place, we have like a granddews in the downstairs.
And they all slept in like this one big upstairs room.
- I gotta have fun.
- They sent me a picture the next day of their breakfast.
It was like, they were at like a five star resort.
He had a big, big, old locks and cream cheese
and like avocado on top.
And then he had a little bowl of oatmeal with berries.
- Wow!
- He had a nice cup of coffee and--
- Damn!
I know.
- These grandparent.
You know, some people, they have a house out in Arrowhead
and they love to entertain and they have the money
or whatever, why not?
Like have grandkids in the band?
They probably love it.
They probably have the best time.
Then the next day I get a picture
and it's all the kids and they're riding around
on a duffy boat.
- Oh my God.
- And it looked like pristine.
- Wow.
- Like it had these like leather, you know, white seats
and all the kids were just out there like floating around
and I was like,
- Wow, like great experience.
- What a frickin' time.
- Yeah.
- So they're playing a two hour show
and it started, so we're recording right now, it's 6'12
and we're recording.
They started at five and they're playing till seven.
- And they just keep playing?
They don't, they are gonna, they have to take a break.
No?
- Sure they'll take a little break.
- They have enough songs for two hours?
That's amazing.
- That's great.
That's awesome.
So happy for him.
- I know.
- I'm so happy for him.
- And every time I ask him like how it's going,
he just writes back, he's a kid who is happy to like
not have his phone with him.
- Yeah.
- So he has not had his phone a bunch of times,
so he doesn't really reach me.
But I was like, how's it going?
And he was like, all caps, it's lit.
(laughing)
I'm having the best time.
- That's so great.
I'm so happy for him.
- I know.
- That's awesome.
That's great.
You got to post videos.
I wanna see you jump, fan healing.
That's great.
- I know.
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- I know, that's the girl keyboard player.
- That's so cool.
- I know, it's really fun. - Yeah, great.
- Oh my God, so...
Okay, we've got some programming,
TV stuff.
It's Friday, which means we have to go over some stuff
that we've been watching and listening to.
- Yeah, that we recommend.
- For you guys.
- So I wonder if we should talk about the big one later.
- Okay.
- So we could say, like, hey, probably for the rest of the show,
we'll talk about this.
- Yes.
- I wanted to tell you about this podcast that I found
called Unicorn Girl, which is by the same people,
I believe that did Scamanda.
- Okay.
- You gotta listen to this podcast.
- I'm going to. - It's about another...
- It's another one of those scammer people.
- I love a scammer.
- Yeah, so far she hasn't faked cancer,
but from the episode descriptions, that's coming up.
- Oh, really?
- Yeah, but she's faked.
- I mean, this is just one of those absolute compulsive liars,
who, okay, but one thing that's interesting to me,
is that part of this girl named Jen Hatmaker?
- Yeah.
- Okay, so Jen Hatmaker was like this blogger influencer,
and now she's a bestselling author,
who I think pretty famously got sober,
and then talked about that, but she's very cool.
She has a really cool story.
But she grew up very religious,
and then she basically sort of left the type of religion.
Anyway, she was in a group, like in a book club,
basically, with this scammer girl.
- Really?
- So they've never come back to talking about,
I wonder if Jen Hatmaker was like, okay,
she was, they were talked about her a lot at the beginning,
and then they've sort of stopped talking about her,
'cause I wonder if she was just like,
this bitch is crazy.
- Yeah. - Like, I don't want to be tied to her.
- Right, right, right.
- And I so badly want to message Jen Hatmaker,
and just go, what do you like think about all this?
- Yeah, yeah.
- So this girl was in this group with these women,
and it was one of those things where very scamanda-ish,
where she was very charismatic,
and she started messaging the group,
which I would have left the conversation really quickly
with all the messages.
So tons of personal problems, right?
Like, you guys, you know,
my husband is like being, I found out my husband was cheating
on me, her big thing, right?
And then everybody's like, oh my God, you go girl,
like fuck that guy, you know?
And then she's like, and he's trying to like,
take the kids because he's claiming that I,
oh, then she goes, I mishandled money.
Basically later, you're gonna find out,
I don't think this is a huge spoiler,
but they do get an interview with the ex-husband.
And she's total liar.
- Oh my God. - Crazy pants.
- Okay.
- He's got the receipts.
- Yeah. - She basically just started stealing
all of his 401K, like draining the bank accounts,
taking out, and then she ended up taking out a credit card
in his business partner's name,
and that's when the ex-husband was like, okay, now we're done.
- Oh my gosh.
- But the, but I haven't told you nearly any of like,
scratches or ravy shit that she did.
It's, and I couldn't help but think.
I feel like I'm doing a little bit,
and just like that, sex in the city.
I couldn't help but think,
like how do people believe this shit from people?
- Yeah. - Right.
- You and I would be like, if you had a friend
that started telling some things that sounded far-fetched,
wouldn't you write away, be like, mm-hmm.
- Oh yeah, you'd be doing Patreon's about it.
- I know. - Yeah, yeah.
- I would definitely be telling you about like, oh God,
wait you hear what she said now or what?
Yeah. - Is the world that goable?
- I just watched a documentary
just because you were brought up the woman that was scammed
by the trache surgeon.
- Bad surgeon. - Bad surgeon.
There's another one in Amazon about some guy
that scammed all these people.
- The romance, those romance scans.
- Yeah, it's like, romance, romance scans.
And it's like, but I do think like, why are they vackle?
But some of these women were in a relationship
with the guy for like three or four years and lived with him.
And then they find out he's stealing,
he's taking money from their accounts and you know,
and then doing it to, you know, ABC,
all these other women as well.
You know, so I feel like once you're in it,
maybe it's hard to, I don't know, to see.
- When you get like, woo, this is not even a romance.
- Well, these are these girls' friends that are all,
she's totally, oh my God, she gets all these girls.
And these were like church girls too.
- Yeah. - She's like, you guys,
oh, okay, so she's doing this.
- Let's demand it, let's do. - It's true, right?
- Yes, it's very similar to Scamanda.
- Yeah. - So she gets this in this group
called Mops, which is Moms of Preschoolers.
- Okay. - It's very Christian.
- I think there's also one called Moms,
which is Moms of Multiples, which I don't know, anyway.
So she's in this group and they have a,
we would hate all this, but they, it's a lot of joiners.
- Yeah. - But they have like a board of it
and she immediately gets a leadership position.
And then she's on the board and then they plan all these events.
- Right. - So then she decides,
they're, and they're, so they are having this meeting
all the board members where they're gonna plan their year out.
Like all the parties they're gonna do and whatever.
She gets all these women to pose for Boudoir photos.
- Oh, she's good. - She's like,
we're gonna do a thing and it's gonna be like empowering.
- Oh, good. - And even the ones that are like,
yeah, was super uncomfortable, then she gets them to like do
wear her lingerie because a lot of them came over in sweats
because they're like normal. - Right.
- And then she's like, well, you guys can wear my lingerie.
She brings them upstairs to her room and then has them pose in like,
lingerie, then one of the girls who was telling the story is like,
yeah, and then she was like, I think you should do some naked ones.
- What? - And she doesn't.
- And the interviewer is like, so did you?
And she's like, yeah, I did. - Oh my gosh.
- But I felt really uncomfortable about it.
They're like, well, why did you do it?
I don't know. She's really charismatic
and I just felt like, yeah, everybody else is gonna do it.
- Right. - So.
- And people don't wanna say no in the moment.
They don't wanna be that one that's like, if everybody else is doing it,
you know, like, I don't know.
That's just, how many episodes is it?
- Probably like eight or nine episodes.
- So you don't have to wait each week for it to come out?
- Oh no, it's all out.
- I'm so gonna listen. - It's only a problem.
It's not a problem for me, but I think it's,
'cause I don't know if you have to have,
but I guess I have Apple Plus.
- Okay. - 'Cause we get,
if you have Apple Plus on your TV,
I don't know, it's automatically plays for me
and there's no commercials. - Okay.
- So there's-- - I am so gonna listen to it.
- There are nine episodes.
- Okay. - I'm on episode five.
- Okay. - I'm probably through episode five.
- I'm gonna totally listen to it.
I love that stuff. - It's really good.
I'm totally addicted. - Yeah.
- And I was gonna tell you before that that's
what I was listening to at the gym.
- Oh, good. See? - So, see?
- Yeah, I need that. That's good. Thank you.
- 'Cause so many times I just, my mouth, I was like, what?
- What? (laughs)
- It keeps getting worse.
- Well, you are very skeptical about a lot of stuff.
- Yeah. - It gets very cynical.
- Yeah, it's your nature. - Is that bad?
- No, it's, I mean, like, look,
it stopped you from joining Nexum.
(laughs)
- You know? - The only reason
I didn't was because I thought it sounded too much like an MLM.
- Right. - But because she said it was a women's in power.
- Yeah. - And I was like, mm-hmm.
- I'm an owl. - Yeah.
- Right. That's so crazy.
So, Amanda Nox has been like every,
not everywhere, but it's on Hulu now.
There's this series. - Yeah.
- Yeah. There's three episodes out, which I hate.
But I want, before, okay, I started to watch it.
And then I was like, I don't really remember
this The Amanda Nox story.
I know I saw the documentary, but that was years ago.
So I went back and watched it on Netflix
and she's telling the story.
So this Hulu one, this Hulu show, is, you know,
it's a SEER, it's a docu-series.
And it's produced by her and Monica Lewinsky.
- Oh. - Yeah.
So it's basically her story with actors.
So I said, let me watch the documentary refresh myself.
So I watched the documentary, oh my god.
Everything is in Italian.
There's a ton of Italian.
I was like, Phil came up with that multitask.
- You can't multitask. - No, you have to read what's going on.
Yeah. So like, then, like, I've listened to so much Italian
that Phil comes up to me and he's like, has to go to the bathroom.
He's like nudging me.
me and I turn around. I'm like,
"Well, kupasa, kupasa, what do I do?"
It's like, "Kuma, it's a Dej."
Like I start thinking like I'm gonna talk Italian
to him, because I just been listening to Italian for like
an hour and half, but, yeah, you forget the story.
And it's like, when you watch it back,
they, the cops wanted to pin it so bad on her,
and these other two people, like,
it didn't make sense to me.
And Ian is still even watching the documentary.
And now watching the series,
I'm only three episodes in, because that's as much as I got.
But it's like, what the fuck?
Why were they pinning it on this American girl?
Just because she was a little quirky,
and she was like kissing her boyfriend
when they were standing outside,
and the roommate, so her roommate was like killed.
Right.
And she just, she was not home that night.
She was with her boyfriend,
and then came home the next morning,
and then, like, took a shower, didn't really, like, saw some blood,
but then thought, like, it was period bloodshed,
and think anything, nobody was home.
And then the door was locked to her roommate that was killed bedroom.
So she got the creeps, and then she left, got her boyfriend,
the boyfriend came, and then they called the cops, the cops came.
But immediately, the cops, why was the door locked?
That whoever killed her locked her door, locked the door.
And got out through a window.
And left through the house.
So the door was open when she got home,
but that kind of normal, she said, because you needed a key to close it and lock it,
and a lot of times some of the roommates.
But if the bedroom, you're saying the bedroom door was locked to, to, to merit
if the girl that was killed, how did the killer get out of her bedroom?
I think he, like, locked it and shut it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, like, hold it shut.
Okay.
And so, yeah, so, but so she takes a shower,
and she notices some blood, and she thinks, whatever,
then she notices there's a shit in the toilet.
And then she got freaked out.
And she left, got her boyfriend.
And when she came back, somebody flushed it.
So she was like, I think the guy or whoever did it to my roommate was still there
when I was home, taking a shower.
But anyway, so they start to pin it on her.
And then one of the things that they, they were like, ah, ah,
was because they were like, where were, because they kept talking to her in Italian.
She could speak Italian, but she did, like, it was really hard for her to keep up.
They got her a translator at some point, but that was like, they were just like,
all like, you know, you know what you, like, kind of trying to get her to confess,
like, from the jump.
And then she was like, so she, they were like, where you were at your boyfriend.
Now your boyfriend is saying, they got him in another room, and they got their
pressuring him to confess.
And at some point he says, he said it all along.
I, she was with me at my apartment that the night before.
But then at some point they go to her and they go, he is now retracting that.
And he is saying you were not, so you lied to us.
He's saying you were not there.
So where, then she then she was like, well, okay, I was with my boyfriend.
We smoked a joint.
We were watching a movie.
And then they were like, and both of your phones were turned off at a certain point in the evening.
And she's like, yeah, because I was supposed to go to work.
Sounds familiar.
She didn't want to, she didn't want to go to work.
So she texts her boss in a, and he says text back and says, don't worry about it.
You know, you don't have to come in.
Her text back was literally like great.
In Italian, she wrote great.
See you later.
Have a, you know, bonus said, I have a good evening kind of thing.
And they were like, first of all, now your boyfriend saying that you weren't.
Now we have this text that said you will see now they're trying to pin it on her boss to a black guy.
So they, so they arrested him.
They arrested her and they arrested her boyfriend and they were like, see, you said, you turned your phone off.
Before you turn it off, you told your boss, I'll see you later.
And she goes, no, no, no, in an American.
That's like, see like, chow like goodbye.
You know, like, and they were like, no, no, no, they did not.
They were like, she's guilty.
She's guilty.
She's guilty like from the get go.
And then poor girl like ended up, you know, going to prison and then had a trial and they found her guilty.
And then she had an appeal, but she was there for like three years in an Italian prison.
So now this Hulu show is going through that whole story and it's told by her and Monica Lewinsky.
So, you know, it's producing.
So I don't know.
I'm watching it.
It's really good.
Well, okay.
So you watched the Netflix one all the way through first.
Yeah.
Just to refresh is it just one, but it's like just one.
It's like an hour and a half.
Yeah.
It's a man and a ox telling her story.
What happened?
On Netflix, on Netflix, a lot of Italian.
And then the Hulu one and then the Hulu one, the Hulu one is a lot of Italian too.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
So you can't multitask.
You can't like close rest your eyes and gaze at the inside of your eyelids while you watch it.
I did that with John was watching this show about, um, wrestle.
Like it was like it this, it's on, oh,
one, the WrestleMania or whatever.
Yeah.
Netflix.
Yeah.
Is it good?
Not to me.
No, no.
Yeah.
It was boring to me.
John knew some people at the production company that had originally produced this show
that these people were on.
So he was just like, oh, that guy, like, you know, I was bored.
Right.
I fell asleep.
Right.
Um, but I was just going to say really quick.
And then I forgot another one that I just watched.
Did you watch the Jesse, um, Jesse says?
Yes.
Yeah.
I did watch that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Now I know that I said that Karen Reed did it and I still believe that.
Uh, and everybody was like, no, the police were corrupt.
I bet you most people are like, he totally did it.
It was a hoax.
But now I'm not so sure.
I know.
I think the police were kind of corrupt.
Yes.
I believe that the police definitely can be corrupt because you know, I believe the
Karen Reed stuff.
I'm not saying the police are corrupt everywhere, but there was definitely proof in that
documentary of all, you know, the corruption and stuff.
However, I think those brothers did something on their own and then tried to, I think they,
I think they did commit the crime.
Those two brothers.
And I think that he didn't, he just didn't think it would have been them.
I think in justice, but there's video of those two brothers buying the rope and stuff
at a store.
Yeah.
And stuff like that.
So they were, they bought like a mega hat or whatever.
Right.
So what like, you know what I mean, I, I think he's just trying to like, you know, get his
whatever.
But the police lied a lot.
That's, I mean, I'm not saying the police are innocent and stuff, but I love the police.
You love the Chicago police department.
You know, those all a lot of those Chicago police like went down for like, yeah, they
came out, yeah, because they're like very corrupt and liars, right.
But not in his case.
I just think there's so much video of the brothers leaving and then there's like receipts
of the, like them taken the Uber and getting to that.
Why couldn't the brothers have done something on their own without it being set up by
Jesse?
But why is his name, Jesse too?
Like why is this?
Jesse?
Yeah, I know, I don't know.
See, that's a little suspicious.
He needs to get his story straight out of his name.
Like, I know, I know.
I can't even do that.
No, I don't know.
So do you think he, do you think it was a total hoax?
Like I think it was, I think it was a hoax.
Why would he do it though?
Because I think he, he, you know, I think he's a little cuckoo and I think he might have
wanted more, I don't know, attention for empire.
Like, I don't know.
It just, it doesn't, but he, as he said in the thing, he was already getting plenty of attention.
He was making a ton of money.
You know what I mean?
Like, well, he says that I don't know.
I know, I mean, I just feel that there was so much video surveillance and, you know,
messages or whatever.
And the check thing, like the, the writing of the check to them for some herbal belly fat from,
like, huh?
But they were trainers.
Yeah, I know.
So that makes a good story.
Like they, like they're going to say, Jesse, Jesse, how are you going to explain that check?
Well, that's a good way to explain it, you know, it left me with some questions.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah.
Of course, I know.
Of course.
Yeah.
Also, before we move on to our little, our last thing,
Monica Lewinsky.
Yeah.
I had this argument with my other co-host with Sessley, where I feel like the whole
Monica Bill Clinton thing was 100% his fault.
Yeah.
He's the president, right?
You know, yeah.
She was so young and also just like, very naive.
Yeah.
And I think that the Linda trip aspect of it.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
And I just Sessley was like, well, you know, she has to take some responsibility.
For like, and I was like, for what?
That's my, my opinion is very, very, with you.
He, Bill Clinton is a piece of shit.
We all know that.
Yeah.
And he was a predator basically.
Yeah.
Right.
And he saw a girl that was willing.
He basically like used, she was a play thing to him and she got very much in her feelings about it.
Yeah.
And I feel like every young girl has been there.
Absolutely.
The president comes on to you, your like.
Yeah.
What, what girl is, and
she's already a big fan.
I know.
She's working at the freaking White House.
Yes.
I agree with 100% with that.
Yeah.
I, you know, yes, when you're young,
so bad for her.
Yeah.
I could see that happening to me or you, or you know, like if you, especially if you like,
somebody that you admire and you're working around them and you're at that age and you're
just, you know, impressionable and just kind of naive.
Yeah.
Did you see that American story or whatever?
It was on FX, the Monica Lewinsky story.
Yeah.
And I've listened to a podcast that slow burn, did a whole thing, did a thing on that whole
story, Monica Lewinsky thing.
And I, I've listened to that like two or three times all the way through, but that show,
yeah, it was really good.
Yeah.
But like, yeah, I agree.
How do people feel like?
Well, everybody's going to feel some way, some type of way about that stuff.
Well, I don't agree.
Yeah.
I almost want to like kind of end the show, like a false ending, right?
Right.
Like, I want to do our shouts and do our last business shouts and then do it so that if
people don't want to hear it, okay, that's good.
That's good.
Yeah.
Okay.
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All right.
So we're a parent now.
Don't if it all right.
Now, now listen, we want to talk about what's it called unknown.
Is it?
Yeah.
It's on Netflix unknown call unknown number unknown number.
Yeah.
Right.
High school catfish story.
That's what it's called.
Yeah.
A lot of names in that.
That's a lot of a lot to remember.
Right.
But we want to, we got to spoil it.
So this is because it's not fun to talk about if you can't spoil what happened.
Right.
So from now, you've had a full show.
Okay.
So if you haven't watched it yet, turn off the podcast now.
You're done.
Right.
Because we're just going to.
Yeah.
And you don't want to be spoiled.
You don't want now.
Don't be spoiled.
Because it's pretty crazy.
Yeah.
And then you want to come back and listen to like the last 10 minutes of the show.
Right.
Yes.
Yeah.
So now that we've said that, do not get mad at us.
We can't have been more clear.
Yeah.
We don't want any more clear.
No.
We're about to spoil it.
We're going to ruin the experience for you.
Now, if you've already seen it, then you're like, I can't wait.
Let's talk about it.
Here we go.
Okay.
Three, two, one.
Holy fuck.
What the fuck?
What?
What the fuck?
Okay.
First of all, I don't even know where to begin.
But first of all, I didn't know where it was going.
Me either.
But then when I found out who was sending the messages, I was like, oh my God, it brought
me back to the letters that Natalya was getting.
And I talked about this on the podcast before.
And I caught them on.
I think that was a Patreon.
Was it?
But that's okay.
Natalya was getting these crazy letters when she was in a senior in high school, sent
to me and sent to another kid.
I don't want to take up all the time.
But it was just harassing, threatening letters.
And it was like, who is sending?
I thought it was a kid.
We all thought it was kids.
It was going to her and another boy.
And turned out-
The parents, too, right?
And to the parent.
Yeah, it was going to the parents.
Yes, talking shit about our kids and how trashy our kids are in this and that and
blah, blah, blah.
And it took like six or seven, eight months to figure it out.
But me and the other mother figured out it was coming from a mom of a daughter that was
jealous of Natalya's relationship with this boy.
And I got her on the phone and I told her, you better fucking knock it, the fuck off.
Because I know it's you and I have proof it's you and I will press charges because I don't
know if you saw in the news this mom out of Milwaukee that was doing the same thing is facing
10 years in prison and you better look it up if you don't know what I'm talking about.
I will press charges so not get the fuck off.
Turns out they sold their house, took their daughter out of the school and moved.
So.
Okay, so you-
Okay, so that's crazy.
Yeah.
So did you know that this was-
No.
Story though when you were watching this?
No, I had no idea.
I was the mom until like all of us.
Okay, so this girl-
And this boy met in the eighth grade, they're from a super small town like one stoplight.
Yeah.
Everybody else everybody.
You've seen the movie so I don't have to tell you that, but they're dating and somebody
is sending and the sexual explicitness of these messages.
I mean, oh my god.
Oh, you think you're going to keep that guy and you know you're not giving blow jobs
in like pussy and stupid flat ass.
Yeah, something about pussy and fingers and sticking your finger of all stick fingers
in the pussy and like, I mean, and like kill yourself.
Didn't she say that?
Yeah.
She was like, he doesn't want you.
He's going to break up with you.
He's breaking up with you tomorrow.
I mean, he's breaking up with you.
He doesn't like you.
He thinks you're gross like whatever.
Yeah.
And then it's like it keeps going and going and then they break up and then the boy
meets another girl from another town and now she's getting these text messages and he's
getting the mom and so he had to break up with that girl.
It was a lot of heavy about the boy.
So this is what and this is why I really wanted us to talk about it because so at first,
I was like, first of all, I was floored because I'm watching it because the way they're interviewing
everybody, they're interviewing the parents.
They're interviewing the mom and she's acting like she doesn't have any idea.
Right.
She's just like, yeah, it's so crazy.
Like it was really scary and you're like, okay, well, who's it going to end up being?
Right.
At one point, John goes, I think it's an adult.
Yeah.
And I was like, I don't think so.
I think it's like a very advanced kid.
It's obviously somebody who's in love with this guy who's like, like, I think the person's
like borderline.
Right.
Then when it turned out it was her mom, I was like shocked.
But then I was like, okay, this is some kind of like munch house in.
Yes.
I said munch house in and then when they said it, I was like, I told you.
Yeah.
But then I was like, you know what?
I'm not really sure about my own diagnosis here because I said that and I was like, I
think she was doing it for attention because the same as like medical munch house in
where you're getting attention because your kid is sick.
Yeah.
Right.
So, and you get attention as the mom of a child who's sick.
I was like, I think the munch house is that she's getting attention for, oh my God, you
poor thing, this is happening to your daughter.
Right.
Okay.
So I'm like, oh, so she gets to be in this scandal, like, oh my God, my poor kid, like so
much attention on their family.
Yes.
Victims.
Yes.
Okay.
So that's what I thought it was at first.
And then the other, the mom of the boy was like, you know what?
This woman had like an unhealthy obsession with my son.
Yes.
Right.
Then I was like, you know what?
Unfortunately, that fits better.
It does.
I think it was all the same.
It's all the same.
Psychopath.
Yes.
Socio-path, psychopath was not actually attached to her.
She, the narcissism involved in being like having that personality disorder.
She's so narcissistic that she's like disassociated from caring about her daughter.
Doesn't care.
She, she somehow falls in love with this kid.
We all know this is possible.
We've seen it happen with teachers.
The teachers, yeah, with young, young boys.
Right.
And she's living in this small town and this kid's an athlete and he looks, you know, he's
looking older than his age or whatever.
She's, I mean, she developed, she's sick.
Yeah.
She developed in a session with the boy.
That is what it was.
That's what it was.
She wanted her daughter to break up with the boy.
Right.
For what?
And then what is she, what's her plan?
I think she literally thought like they would hook up.
I mean, it's all so fucking fucked up.
So then my favorite part, while I hate having a favorite part, but you probably know what
I'm talking about when she goes, they're interviewing her and she goes, I mean, everybody does
what she makes mistakes.
Everybody does illegal stuff.
Like, oh, I mean, people like, you know,
I know.
Jaywalk?
I mean, hello.
No.
Like, oh, you Jaywalk and then you're like, I've never committed a crime.
Right.
So like, we've all due stuff that's a little bit against the law.
It's so funny because I had a friend that that watched it too after I watched it and then
he texted me the same thing.
Like, everybody just breaks the law.
Well, first of all, the text was the mom, what the fuck?
Wait, what?
I mean, just what a crazy story.
She is just, she, in the poor, she's not sorry.
And she's not sorry.
And her poor daughter, when they had the camera, they were arrested, the daughter almost seemed
like she kind of, like, kind of knew it or something.
Like, she wasn't like, wait, what?
You know, I guess it's because maybe she's young and she was confused and maybe she didn't
want to believe it.
She was in shock.
She didn't want to, yeah, I think she was confused.
But the other couple was that the parents of the boy or was it the parents of that girl who
was kind of a bully?
Right.
Somebody was like, we fucking knew it was her because she's crazy.
I think you can't hide that much crazy.
No, you can't.
I think everybody was like, this bitch is weird, right?
Yeah.
So like towards the end of it, then people were going like, especially the mom of the
son, like, kind of makes sense, you know?
But you would never think that.
But then when you find out, then you then people are like, oh, okay, yeah, you can't hide
that kind of crazy.
I think the mom of the boy that was like, this, this bitch is like going to all his games
even after they broke up.
Right.
Cheering for him like a crazy person who stands, contacting him.
Right.
I think she was texting him.
Yeah, yeah.
She wouldn't leave Malone.
But then also, like I said, the other parents were like, we said it was her early on.
And nobody would like listen to that.
Right, right, right.
Like she's something's wrong with her.
Yeah.
So I think maybe the daughter knew that her mom was kind of off.
Right, right.
And I think the dad of the girl also knew that it could be she was a liar because she
was lying.
Yeah, she was lying about working, working.
She never didn't have a job.
She was lying about a bunch of stuff.
Yeah.
And then what happened?
Did she go to jail or I can't remember.
Yeah, but like, for like a year, I think she was in jail.
Like a year and a half.
Yeah, and then didn't talk to her daughter.
Well, they wouldn't let her see her daughter.
But then after the daughter was like, yeah, I was like a lived to see my, no, for a while,
she, no, the daughter was visiting her in prison.
Right.
Yeah.
All the time.
Yes.
And she got out of jail.
They said you can't have any contact.
Right.
But she was like, yeah, I can't wait to like be able to like see my mommy again and like hang
out with her.
So sad.
It broke my heart when they were arguing when the dad was like, so what?
Now the job you didn't, and then they were like, they were arguing.
You could see the daughter just like break down and start, it's heartbreaking.
I mean, my God, like what if the daughter did something to herself or what if she want,
you know what I mean?
Like she's got it when they were like, but you were sending your daughter a mess just saying
kill yourself.
Right.
And she's like, yeah, but I know my daughter.
Right.
She probably was going to do it.
Unbelievable.
What the fuck?
That documentary is fucking nuts.
That's crazy.
People leave they all agreed to be in it.
I know.
It totally, see, that's a thing.
Like they interviewed the mom in the beginning and you're like, okay, so you don't, you
can't go like, oh, what if it's one of the parents because they got the parents on camera?
That never happens.
Right.
That never happens.
And they're all like, oh my God, this was so horrible.
Like that's how crazy that freaking mom is that they, Netflix was probably like, this
is a fucking goal, mom.
This is just like sitting here going like, yeah, can you believe that happened?
Right.
Horrible.
Yeah, I'll be interviewed for it.
Yeah, I'll participate.
Yeah, I'll go along with it.
Horrible for everybody involved.
Yeah.
It was terrible time for us.
Right.
And then 45 minutes in.
Well, okay.
Now let's get to the nitty-gritty.
Yeah.
Crazy.
All those police trying to like trace it and trying to figure it out.
Right.
All the manpower that was wasted.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
Yeah, go check it out if you have an, I hope, I hope, hopefully, there's no point now.
Yeah.
There's always going to be somebody that's going to be like, I listened anyway and then
I'm going to go watch it.
Yeah, but you know what?
I think you could still enjoy it.
Oh, yeah, you will.
I think you might enjoy it even slightly more knowing because then you can watch it knowing
like, I know.
I know.
I want to watch it again.
Yeah, let's watch it again.
Yeah.
Let's watch it again.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Did you guys a favor?
Okay.
All right.
Bye.
You're a pair now.
Don't eff it up.
Yeah.