1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,080 ♪ Entertain me, entertain me right now ♪ 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:09,080 - Welcome to our show, in-person, live, in a studio. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,580 We are Pop Culture Junkie podcast. 4 00:00:11,580 --> 00:00:13,600 I am Shauna and I'm Olivia. 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,240 - And we are glad that you have found us. 6 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:17,240 I missed you. 7 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:18,080 - I missed you too. 8 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:19,080 - I'm glad that you're here. 9 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:21,120 - It's good to not see you through a screen. 10 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,600 - I know your hair looks so good. 11 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:23,760 It's so long. 12 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:24,600 - Thank you. 13 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,440 It's also very black. 14 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,440 - It's so black. 15 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,280 Like my soul. 16 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,200 - We same same. 17 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,840 - I know now that Shauna and I aren't together all the time, 18 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,240 I can have black hair. 19 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:33,080 - Yeah. 20 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,440 - And people really won't say that we're together. 21 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,880 - Oh, you guys did third. 22 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,800 - Yeah, like a guys fraternal twins. 23 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,680 - Did you guys share a whole meal? 24 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,640 (laughing) 25 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,640 - We might have. 26 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:44,480 - We might have. 27 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:45,320 - We might have. 28 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,160 - We're still out. 29 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:47,160 - One can only win. 30 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:48,600 (laughing) 31 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,160 - We did celebrate Olivia's birthday together in Phoenix, 32 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:52,840 which was a lot of fun. 33 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:53,680 - Yes. 34 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,680 - We got like a day bed, laid by the pool, 35 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,440 and did lots of shots, 36 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,920 and ate lots of food. 37 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,920 - My knees saw the sun for the first time this year. 38 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,760 - Yeah. 39 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,880 - It was a beautiful, 40 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,680 - Yeah, we wore bathing suits. 41 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,840 - We didn't like totally. 42 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,800 It turned to ash at the sun, hitting our skin. 43 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:10,640 - It was great. 44 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:11,640 - It was quite odd. 45 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,960 I got in the car today to drive here, 46 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:16,920 and I got in, and it was like a very hot car, 47 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,560 and I was like, ooh, I like this feeling. 48 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,400 And I was like, I feel like you can only really like that feeling 49 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,400 if you experience it two to three times a year. 50 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,800 - Yeah, not if you live in Phoenix. 51 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,280 - I think you're like, - It's like a nostalgia feeling. 52 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,760 - You're getting into an oven. 53 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,520 - Oh, I'm home, but I don't want to stay home. 54 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,280 - I know, I just asked Olivia before we were recording. 55 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,800 Like, when do you think you're gonna come back again? 56 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,080 She's like, not in the fucking summer, Shana. 57 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,560 Oh my God, so I'm gonna have to go to San Francisco, 58 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:43,760 or we're gonna wait till October. 59 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,600 - There were spots. 60 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,440 - And that's not gonna happen. 61 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,280 - There were spots. 62 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,240 - I know, I guess I'll go to San Francisco. 63 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,080 - It's beautiful. 64 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:49,920 - It is beautiful. 65 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,480 - And it's colder in the summer. 66 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,320 - There. 67 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,120 - I went in July once, and I was cold. 68 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,960 - Yeah. 69 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,760 - It was like a weapon, it was super cold there. 70 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,000 - It was stupid. 71 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,080 Then I just got drunk in a little. 72 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:02,920 - A little. 73 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,320 - It was also raining. 74 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,480 - It was also raining. 75 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,960 I also didn't believe people 76 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,000 when they said seasonal depression exist. 77 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,480 And then I didn't see the sun for like three months. 78 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,880 And then I came here and I was like, 79 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,520 oh, you do need vitamin D, got it. 80 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,440 - I can feel my serotonins the minute I get into a patio 81 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,120 in like this phoenix spring. 82 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,120 And I'm like, have a drink in my hand and the sun. 83 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,600 And maybe someone walks a dog by. 84 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,960 I go, you know what? 85 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,640 Maybe everything will be okay. 86 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:30,960 - Maybe this is the point. 87 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,200 - Maybe this is the point. 88 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,000 And then CNN dings on my phone. 89 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,080 And I'm like, he did what? 90 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,440 - Oh, never mind. 91 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:38,760 (laughing) 92 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,800 Everything is trash. 93 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,560 Anyway, speaking of trash, that's gonna bring us in 94 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,520 to this week's topic, which is a trash celebrity, 95 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,400 the downfall of Katy Perry. 96 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,240 - Oh. 97 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,080 (dramatic music) 98 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,080 - So Olivia and I have one thing on our minds, 99 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,960 the downfall of civilization. 100 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,720 But also, what's the deal with Katy Perry? 101 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,160 She's in space. 102 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,160 She's getting trolled by Wendy's. 103 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,040 She's working with Russian company. 104 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,160 She's at the Met Gala, but like not really. 105 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,080 - She's going and done and court. 106 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,480 - Killed and done. 107 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,880 Oh my God. 108 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,480 - She was like in a legal battle with a nun. 109 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,320 And the nun literally dropped dead in the body. 110 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,160 - She died of the court hearing. 111 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,080 She said Katy Perry represents everything that we don't like. 112 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,120 It would be a sin to sell this church to her and then died. 113 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,120 - Yeah, in the middle of the courtroom. 114 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,120 What a statement. 115 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,120 - What a statement. 116 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:35,960 - What a statement. 117 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,400 - Anyway, what is going on with Katy Perry? 118 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,880 She used to have the world on her shoulders. 119 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,640 Everyone thought that she was gonna be the next pop superstar. 120 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,040 - I mean, she was for a little bit. 121 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:46,880 - She was. 122 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,280 - She was her teenage dream era. 123 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:53,280 Like, she was such a big star that if you weren't there, 124 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,360 I feel like it's hard to explain because she was kind of famous. 125 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,360 - She was ultra famous. 126 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,360 - Yeah. 127 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,520 - She was on top of the world. 128 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,520 She was doing it. 129 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,920 When I first learned about Katy Perry, she was dating Jim Class Heroes like singer. 130 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:06,920 - Oh my God. 131 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,280 - And she was going to work towards the same thing. 132 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,880 - She was going to work to her and the alternative station in Phoenix used to play 133 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,240 I Kiss to Girl. 134 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:18,480 She was kind of on that like cusp of like not punk by any means, but kind of like she 135 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,480 was a genius rock. 136 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,480 - Yeah, kind of like. 137 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,600 I'm a cool alternative girl, look at my shaggy haircut, right? 138 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,600 - Yes. 139 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,680 - And then she, her first, well she first started as a Christian singer under the name Catherine 140 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,680 Hudson. 141 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:32,680 - Yeah. 142 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,680 - So if you look back in the day, it's all Jesus music. 143 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,080 I think her dad was a pastor. 144 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,080 - Yeah. 145 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,080 - Real Bible belt. 146 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,480 - Yeah, and I'll admit that I think Katy Perry has a nice voice. 147 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:41,480 - Oh yeah. 148 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,080 - I think she's a good talented singer. 149 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,120 So she released gospel album and then got discovered I guess. 150 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,120 - Yeah. 151 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,280 - And then went on to release "You're So Gay." 152 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:51,280 - Yeah. 153 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:53,280 - Which is a good song though. 154 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:57,280 - It's so like kind of offensive, but like it's Bob. 155 00:04:57,280 --> 00:04:58,280 - Yeah. 156 00:04:58,280 --> 00:04:59,280 - Yeah. 157 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:00,280 - Listen. 158 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:01,280 - It was a 2010s product. 159 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:02,280 - Yeah. 160 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:03,280 - But it is a Bob. 161 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:04,280 - It screams 2010. 162 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:05,280 - It's a homophobic Bob. 163 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:06,280 - It's a homophobic Bob. 164 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:10,280 - Just like picture a burn original version. 165 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:12,280 - Original version of homophobic. 166 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:13,280 - Yeah. 167 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:14,280 - Insert Hillary Duff. 168 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:17,720 - You know, you shouldn't say gay as an insult. 169 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,280 - It's like saying that top is born as pants. 170 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:23,200 I don't remember the rest of it. 171 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,840 You're skirt being a born as a top. 172 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:25,840 - There you go. 173 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:26,840 - There you go. 174 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:27,840 - I got there. 175 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:28,840 Come on, Hillary. 176 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:29,840 Help us out. 177 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:30,840 Help us out. 178 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:31,840 - We're all ready. 179 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:33,520 - So Hillary Clinton arises. 180 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,720 - Katy Perry is kind of like crushing it in every single way. 181 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,440 In her first two albums, she's really, really popular. 182 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:46,280 I think at the time she's actually married to Russell Brand. 183 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:47,560 And that should have been our first. 184 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,560 - She dated Orlanda Blimb. 185 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,560 - No, she dated John Mayer. 186 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,560 - She dated John Mayer. 187 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,760 - She dated John Mayer, which is where the famous Taylor Swift and Katy Perry feud is actually 188 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:58,760 from. 189 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,760 - I thought it was the stealing of the backup dancer. 190 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:06,320 - Yeah, but like, you know, I think there was animosity there and then it bill. 191 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,120 But yeah, the public story is that it's a backup dancer thing. 192 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,480 But I think that's like, you know, when you are just like so mad at someone and they 193 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,240 do something like really small and you're like, "Yeah." 194 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,240 - Yeah, and you're like, "Now that's the straw that probed the Katy Perry's back." 195 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,880 - Or you're in like a petty war. 196 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,400 That's like what I think happened, ultimately. 197 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:33,240 But Katy Perry, this feud with Taylor Swift really kind of starts her like initial like, 198 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,840 what the hell is going on with Katy Perry? 199 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:38,240 - Yeah, because it kind of like everyone was kind of taking sides, I think. 200 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,640 And I do, they squashed it, I think, really well. 201 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,120 And it was in Taylor's video. 202 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,160 They squashed it for you need to calm down. 203 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,160 - Yes. 204 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,960 - And I thought that was really cute. 205 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,760 She was on top of the world. 206 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,200 She performed at the Super Bowl and had the famous left shark. 207 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Her song, "Oh gosh, Roar was used at like every single political campaign." 208 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,320 - Well, that's actually, that's a little bit before. 209 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:08,840 So when she released her album, "Prizm" is where she got into doing... 210 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:10,440 - If you're talking about the purposeful pop. 211 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,440 - Yes, purposeful pop. 212 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,440 - And that's later in her, her way of saying it. 213 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:14,440 - Yes, yes, yes. 214 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,440 - Witness. 215 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,480 - And then, she gets into this feud with Taylor Swift. 216 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,960 And they're like having a song off. 217 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:26,160 And have you ever heard the song "Swish/Swish" by Katy Perry? 218 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,160 - It's so bad. 219 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,160 - Yes. 220 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,160 - It's when she chopped all of her hair off, too. 221 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,160 - Yes, well, she was trying to be a little... 222 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,160 - The purposeful pop. 223 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,160 - ...the purposeful pop. 224 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,160 - ...siris, which is the witness album. 225 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,160 - Oh, that's it. 226 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,160 That's it. 227 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,160 Okay. 228 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,160 - Yes. 229 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,160 - Witness. 230 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,160 Yeah. 231 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,160 So she goes into... 232 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,160 - "Prizm" had Dark Horse in Roar, which were like... 233 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,160 - Oh, those are pretty usually famous. 234 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,160 - So, right after "Swish/Swish". 235 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,160 Katy Perry cuts her hair into a pixie cut. 236 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,160 - It literally cuts it. 237 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,160 - Literally, exactly. 238 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,160 - And her cut is Miley Cyrus' hat. 239 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,160 - Yes. 240 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,160 And Katy Perry is a beautiful woman. 241 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,160 - No, with that haircut. 242 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,160 - No, with that haircut. 243 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:06,160 - And she starts really going into doing the most bubblegum activism ever on this album, 244 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,160 as well, in the witness album. 245 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,160 - Oh, god. 246 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,160 - It's so bad. 247 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,160 She said it was going to be "Purposeful Pop". 248 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,160 But there was nothing. 249 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,160 - Yeah, there's nothing deep. 250 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,160 - It's something deep. 251 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,160 - It took Katy Perry's hair. 252 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,160 - And this is coming out during... 253 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,160 So, changed to the rhythm. 254 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,160 Came out in 2017. 255 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,160 This is after Donald Trump had become elected president. 256 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,160 We're having a political revolution. 257 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,160 We want feminism is in the forefront. 258 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:37,160 And she releases this sad-ass little song and album that's like, "Look, I'm participating." 259 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,160 And then "Swish/Swish" bitches on that. 260 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,160 - Yeah. 261 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,160 - With "Bone/Apeteet". 262 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,160 - Which was really controversial. 263 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:48,160 - Well, she also performed it on SNL and did her first. 264 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,160 We will get into the next many of them. 265 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,160 Really bad dance moves on SNL. 266 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,160 - Okay. 267 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,160 - To "Bone/Apeteet", where she dabs. 268 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,160 - Oh. 269 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,160 - But just like a cringey white lady dab with Migos rapping. 270 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,160 - Yeah. 271 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,160 - Oh, I see. 272 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,160 - Honestly. 273 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:10,160 - There are so many moments of Katy Perry's career, where if you just put them together, 274 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,160 you're like, "I am uncomfortable." 275 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,160 - It's so cringey. 276 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,160 - But it's so cringey, you feel it in your butt. 277 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,160 - I want to take a little... 278 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,160 - Yeah. 279 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,160 - Yeah. 280 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,160 - You know, you just... 281 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,160 - It's oo! 282 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,160 - Yeah. 283 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,160 - Take a little pause here. 284 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,160 - Were you ever a Katy Perry face? 285 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,160 - Yes. 286 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:29,160 So our first two albums, like Teenage Dream, when I was a senior in high school, was bumping that. 287 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,160 - That and Kesha, which is quite funny. 288 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,160 - Oh, I love that. 289 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,160 - That it was Kesha of all people. 290 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,160 - Like us. 291 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,160 - Yes. 292 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:42,160 - Yeah, the famous Dr. Luke and Kesha battle. 293 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,160 Katy Perry, four teenage dream, worked with Dr. Luke. 294 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,160 Dr. Luke was very respected at the time. 295 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,160 We didn't really know anything about... 296 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,160 - Yeah. 297 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,160 - Kesha hadn't came out with her accusations. 298 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,160 - Kesha, Anna, Kelly Clarkson hadn't. 299 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,160 - That's right. 300 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,160 - About how kind of awful this man was. 301 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,160 - Yeah. 302 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,160 - And among sexual abuse, it was also... 303 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,160 He was stealing people's credits. 304 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,160 - Yeah. 305 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,160 - He's grabbed a song, like all of these things. 306 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,160 So allegedly, so we don't get sued here. 307 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,160 - Someone's gonna sue Paul. 308 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,160 - Yeah. 309 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,160 - Good luck. 310 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,160 - We're Ironclad bitches. 311 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,160 - Yeah, that's it. 312 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:23,160 But, you know, allegedly, you know, these things happened to these women. 313 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,160 And of course, we very much believe it on this side. 314 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,160 But what about you, were you ever Katy Perry fan? 315 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,160 - Not really. 316 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,160 I always, I mean, I've been such a big gaga fan for so long. 317 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:39,160 And it kind of felt like Katy Perry was just like the team who got gaga knock off for a lot. 318 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,160 - Yeah. 319 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:45,160 - She definitely has some songs that I have on some like get drunk and buy the pool playlist, right? 320 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,160 - Yeah. 321 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,160 - Last Friday night, a Bob. 322 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,160 - I hated last Friday night. 323 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,160 I hate that fucking song. 324 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,160 - I love that song. 325 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,160 - I like Dark Horse. 326 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,160 - Ooh. 327 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,160 - I like Harley's and Hawaii. 328 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,160 - So you like her later music? 329 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,160 - Yeah, those are Dark Horse. 330 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,160 - Okay. 331 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,160 - It was what like 2017, yeah, I guess. 332 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,160 - Yeah. 333 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,160 - All right. 334 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,160 - I like Kiss to Girl because I'm a little guy. 335 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,160 - Okay. 336 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,160 - Like, yeah. 337 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,160 - Okay. 338 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,160 - Her first single ever and then her fourth album. 339 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,160 - Yeah, yeah. 340 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,160 - In between, not so much. 341 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,160 - Okay. 342 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,160 - I remember working in some services. 343 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,160 - So that's a controversial opinion. 344 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,160 - Dark Horse is a good song. 345 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,160 - I mean, it's a good song. 346 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,160 But like, how often are you seeking out Dark Horse? 347 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,160 - No, at the time it came out. 348 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,160 - Oh, it was good. 349 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,160 - I don't fucking like Katy Perry anymore. 350 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,160 - Okay. 351 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,160 - You're like, I heard it once. 352 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,160 - I hate it. 353 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,160 - That's what you're getting me right now. 354 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,160 - It was fine. 355 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,160 It's a fine song. 356 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,160 When I worked in social services, I had this client. 357 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,160 - I had a real Dark Horse. 358 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,160 - I had a real Dark Horse if you know what I mean. 359 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:50,160 - I had this girl who was my client and she wouldn't speak to any other support person who 360 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,160 came into her house. 361 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,160 - Yeah. 362 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,160 - She had a serious mental illness. 363 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,160 And I'm not breaking any hip. 364 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,160 I was like, fucking ten years ago. 365 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,160 - From that stupid thing. 366 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,160 - She's a college now. 367 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,160 She's fine. 368 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,160 - I was in and I really, I saw like the teenage dream album sitting there. 369 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,160 - Oh, it was pretending like that. 370 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,160 - I was like, wow, I love Katy Perry. 371 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,160 - She's just your sweet, sweet, sweet song. 372 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,160 - Sweet, sweet, sweet. 373 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,160 - I was like, I need, I don't. 374 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,160 - I need a new position. 375 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,160 - I'm quitting. 376 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,160 - I can't do this. 377 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,160 - I quit. 378 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,160 - But we had to bond over Katy Perry and that's all she would speak. 379 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,160 When I came out and I was like, yeah, she's great. 380 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,160 She loves me. 381 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,160 She won't speak to anyone else. 382 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,160 How did you get her to talk? 383 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,160 Talk about Katy Perry. 384 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,160 - So that's why you meet kids where they are. 385 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:41,160 - She would say in the California girls, like there's fine fresh fears. 386 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,160 We got it on lock. 387 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,160 And I used to tease her by saying farm fresh eggs. 388 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,160 We got it. 389 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,160 And she was so mad at me. 390 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,160 - Yeah. 391 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,160 - You, you, you disrespected me. 392 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,160 - I did. 393 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,160 - She got it on with girls. 394 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,160 So now when you hear that, think farm fresh eggs. 395 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,160 - She got it on. 396 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,160 - Did you hear that on a commercial? 397 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,160 - No, I just, craving some eggs. 398 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,160 - I just was hungry. 399 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,160 - I love eggs. 400 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,160 - Okay. 401 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,160 - Now this economy, farm fresh eggs. 402 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,160 - Yeah. 403 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,160 Now it's coming back. 404 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,160 She should lean into that. 405 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:19,160 Now, and Katy Perry has always kind of been someone who makes, like, like, swish, swish. 406 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,160 If you've never seen the music video, go watch it. 407 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,160 - She's too good. 408 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,160 She's so weird. 409 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,160 - She's like, what's like B? 410 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,160 - Riff Raff. 411 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,160 - Yeah. 412 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,160 - She came with Riff Raff. 413 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,160 - Wasn't she dating him for a little bit? 414 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,160 - I don't know if they dated, but they definitely attempted, like, an awards show together. 415 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,160 And this was been me and my husband. 416 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,160 We're in this era where we kind of ironically liked Riff Raff. 417 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,160 But then it kind of got a little too serious. 418 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,160 And we started actually liking Riff Raff. 419 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,160 So we had to stop because we got nervous. 420 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:52,160 - I one time was at a college party and we were in what, in Tempe is called the View. 421 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,160 - Oh, god. 422 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,160 - And it's basically just like a giant frat house. 423 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,160 - I'm sorry, I just had a flash back. 424 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,160 - Yeah, but it's like apartments. 425 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,160 - Yeah. 426 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,160 - And you would go, like, room to, or apartment to apartment. 427 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,160 And there would be like crazy apartments. 428 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,160 - Everyone's doors just open. 429 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,160 - Yeah. 430 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,160 - Everyone's open. 431 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,160 It's like a giant party. 432 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,160 It was a great time in college. 433 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,160 - Time to do that. 434 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,160 - And I have been daydriggy all day, like, tailgating. 435 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,160 And I look over. 436 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,160 And I just see Riff Raff in his rainbow colored braids. 437 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,160 And I'm like, I need to get out of here immediately. 438 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,160 Like, this is the time where I said, I should go home. 439 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,160 - I got it go home. 440 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,160 - I need to leave Riff Raff is here. 441 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,160 - I'm so glad I wasn't there because I absolutely would have tried to sleep with Riff Raff. 442 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,160 - 100%. 443 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,160 - It was after spring breakers that come out. 444 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,160 - You know I would have to. 445 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,160 - I, all I can see when I look at you is look at all my shit. 446 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,160 - Spring break. 447 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,160 - Spring break. 448 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,160 - Spring break. 449 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,160 - I absolutely would have gone up in my layer. 450 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,160 - Riff Raff. 451 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,160 - Yeah. 452 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,160 - Let's do it. 453 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,160 - I'm glad you weren't there. 454 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,160 - I'm so glad I wasn't there. 455 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,160 - Yeah. 456 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,160 - Let's take a little break. 457 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,160 - We don't need that Riff Raff. 458 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,160 - We don't need that Riff Raff in our life. 459 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,440 Let's take a little break and then we're going to get into what most people kind of know for 460 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,240 the current controversies for Katy Perry. 461 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,240 This bitch went to space. 462 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,240 - Yeah. 463 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:09,040 - Before we get more into Katy Perry's bullshit, I just want to remind everybody that we have 464 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,040 a Patreon. 465 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,840 Do you want to shout out full access to our new PCJ pops? 466 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:20,520 A sneak peek at the uncensored video content of our episodes before anyone else gets to 467 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,520 see them. 468 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,520 Then join the Patreon. 469 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,680 (laughs) 470 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,080 Then join because the price is definitely right. 471 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,000 For a tiny donation, you get a reward. 472 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,320 Plus you're supporting us as we bring you the best pop culture on a weekly basis. 473 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,320 Go to patreon.com/popculturejunkiepodcast and subscribe. 474 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,320 - I'm going to pull up the figure. 475 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,320 - I lost my spine to the whole mouth. 476 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:55,320 - You can piece a paper to follow underneath. 477 00:15:55,320 --> 00:16:00,320 Listen, she's never beating the paper out. 478 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,320 - I'll say it work. 479 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,320 - I want to be stupid. 480 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,320 - I know you do, sweetie. 481 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,320 It's okay. 482 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:11,760 I want to look at my Olivia and be a dumbass and talk about Katy Perry. 483 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,760 - She sucks. 484 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,320 - I forgot to mention about Katy Perry. 485 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,320 - This is the place dimension. 486 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,320 - During the witness era, she did like a 48 hour livestream. 487 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,320 - Maybe it was about that. 488 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,160 - She was unhinged in it. 489 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,560 It's also when she had a pixie cut. 490 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,320 Everyone hated her. 491 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,320 It's wild. 492 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,320 There are clips of it. 493 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,440 It is the most random thing you've ever seen. 494 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,440 - It's like rolling on the floor. 495 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,440 - Yeah, one point she's crying on the stairs. 496 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,440 - Yeah. 497 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:41,440 - Like drama. 498 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,440 - No one understands me. 499 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,440 - Yeah, it's wild. 500 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,440 - So, don't swish, wish. 501 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,440 - I think she was trying to be. 502 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,440 So, in our J-Lo, like the fall of J-Lo break down episode, you know what I mean? 503 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:57,440 - Yeah. 504 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:02,920 - We talked about how J-Lo needs to become more like personal with her audience and be seen 505 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:03,920 as more of a person. 506 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,920 - It is very easy, yes. 507 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,480 I think this was Katie trying to be like, look, I'm just like you guys. 508 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,640 I'm a real person, but it was so weird. 509 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,920 It was like a big brother house. 510 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,920 - Yeah, it was odd. 511 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:22,920 - And anytime a celebrity enters into reality television show territory, I feel like it's 512 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,920 kind of like the downfall of their career. 513 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,920 Unless that's how you started, like the Kardashians. 514 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:37,440 - Yeah, I think that Katie Perry, like right now, so there's kind of two main controversies 515 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:45,520 happening for Katie Perry right now, which is her terrible tour promo of going to space. 516 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:51,000 - The space trip was so like, read the fucking room. 517 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,240 Where the world is at war, people are dying, Kim. 518 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,200 - Yeah. Look at everything that's going on in the news and the things that people really 519 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,520 care about. 520 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,240 And we're all kind of, you know, eat the rich right now. 521 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,880 Like we don't, we're not into fucking billionaires. 522 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,000 Elon Musk is tearing down the country. 523 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:13,280 Donald Trump sucks and she's going to go on Jeff Bezos' penish-shaped airplane to space. 524 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,240 - Yeah, with Lauren and Gail. 525 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,240 And I'm just talking about how much I like to gail. 526 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,240 - I know. 527 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,240 Embarrassing. 528 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,240 - Cancel me. 529 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,240 - Yeah, I would. 530 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,240 - I would, guys. 531 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,240 - I would. 532 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,240 - I would. 533 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,240 - Do it. 534 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,800 So yeah, she goes, it's not just that she goes into space. 535 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:37,040 She goes into space and comes back doing some of the most unhinged shit. 536 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:42,600 So she gets back from space, steps on the ground and kisses it. 537 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,240 - She was in space for 11 minutes. 538 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,240 - That's worth mentioning. 539 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,240 - 11 minutes. 540 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,920 And she has this little daisy with her the whole time. 541 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,200 And I'm sorry, she probably had a video of her like staring into my room. 542 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,200 - Yeah. 543 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,200 - She's at a grateful, dead concert. 544 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:01,560 - And everyone behind her is looking rightfully so out the window at this beautiful view of 545 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,040 Earth that like she's like, all. 546 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,040 - Take a picture. 547 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,160 - Us pours are never going to get to see. 548 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,800 - And she's like, here's the set list for my upcoming tour. 549 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,520 Like try to put it up to the camera and it's all blurry. 550 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,040 You know it can see it. 551 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,680 - What song did she sing? 552 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,480 And Waltz in space. 553 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,520 - I don't remember, but I remember Gail said that she did. 554 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:22,520 - It's a beautiful world. 555 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,520 - Oh, girl. 556 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,520 - I think so. 557 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Yeah, I think it's a beautiful world. 558 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,240 - I did like the memes of everyone was getting off the ship and Gail just like fucking over 559 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,240 it. 560 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:36,320 And someone said if Katy Perry sang to me in a space capsule, I'd be fucking over it too. 561 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,240 Like okay, I get that. 562 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:46,240 - But no, it was just so tone deaf and then she tried to spin it as something like. 563 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,920 - She said there's so much love. 564 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,120 I feel so much of the love. 565 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:52,840 - And like some feminist moment. 566 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:53,840 And you know what? 567 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:59,960 Like I think this comes down to like my issue with Katy Perry too is this fake white feminism 568 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:05,840 that doesn't actually advance women and the causes that feminists care about. 569 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:06,840 Right? 570 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:12,600 So like going to space for 11 minutes on a billionaire's rocket ship is not what feminists care 571 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:13,600 about. 572 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,240 - For a female, all female fight crew. 573 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,560 - We don't care about that. 574 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,480 That's not furthering feminism. 575 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,400 There was one lady on the flight that I think was an actual astronaut. 576 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,640 And like she got totally pushed under the rug about shooting. 577 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:26,960 And I'm sorry. 578 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:32,320 Like in the mix of class wars and everything going on like no, you going to space is not making 579 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,000 anyone feel more feminist. 580 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,000 - Yes. 581 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,360 And then it's like it's it's always the contradictions with her like I'm in a release 582 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:42,240 a song called Woman's World about female power. 583 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,240 - Oh my god. 584 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,040 - But I'm going to work with like a man accused of like. 585 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,040 - Yes. 586 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,440 - Assault and things like that. 587 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,360 - For that exact song. 588 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:53,960 And that was Dr. Luke who let me have mentioned earlier. 589 00:20:53,960 --> 00:21:00,160 She after everything that came out about Kesha and Kelly Clarkson and all these people. 590 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:05,480 She went back and worked with him again in July 2024 for Woman's World, which she said 591 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,440 was aimed to empower women. 592 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,920 Have you seen the music video for that song? 593 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,920 - Yes. 594 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:10,920 - So stupid. 595 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,240 - It kind of like makes fun of women. 596 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,240 - Yeah. 597 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,600 It's not what doing what she thinks. 598 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,600 - It's very like again. 599 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,080 She was married to Russell Brown. 600 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,080 - It's true. 601 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,520 - So in like re-evaluations. 602 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,520 - Yeah. 603 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:26,400 - But she like is dressed for the male gaze in the video is making fun of quote unquote like 604 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,400 bimbo women. 605 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,440 Like we're past that make fun of other women kind of feminist. 606 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,440 - That's right. 607 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,440 - That's not it. 608 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,440 - Yeah. 609 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,520 - So that was a massive flop. 610 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,600 We should also mention that like her both all of her previous albums. 611 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,520 I mean we kind of talked about witness which had swish swish. 612 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,560 And that was a huge fucking flop. 613 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:51,480 But then this album that just came out, smile and then with woman's world all of it just 614 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,080 commercial failures. 615 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,080 - Yes. 616 00:21:54,080 --> 00:22:01,440 And that leads us really to our second embarrassing moment in controversy is Katie Perry is 617 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:10,520 on a world tour right now and has record low sales for this tour. 618 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,120 I actually before we recorded I was looking if you're in the Phoenix area. 619 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:19,240 She has $60 tickets at footprint. 620 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,240 If you want the nosebleed. 621 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,240 - No way. 622 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,960 - It's like really good seats, 130 at footprint. 623 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,680 - It's not even a stadium tour. 624 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,000 - That's insane. 625 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,520 Like I was looking into Gaga tour tickets and they're like $500 for the cheapest. 626 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,520 - Yeah. 627 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,520 I'm not going to that. 628 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,520 - Yeah. 629 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,520 But 30 bucks. 630 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,840 - But footprint isn't like a stadium. 631 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,920 Like I think they already moved it out of stadiums. 632 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:48,000 But on top of that her ticket sales are flopping and the weirdest behavior on stage. 633 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,080 - Her dance moves are so strange and I almost wish I knew the context. 634 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,400 Like is she trying to be funny? 635 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,400 - Of course she is. 636 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,200 - But she's like Jennifer Lawrence in 2012. 637 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,200 - Yeah. 638 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,200 Like that's what she's doing. 639 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,200 - But it's not charming. 640 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,200 - Funny. 641 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,200 Like it's coming. 642 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,800 It's just bad dance moves. 643 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,800 It's cringey. 644 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,040 - She's like embarrassing. 645 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,840 - She's like embarrassing, robotting. 646 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,600 She has like a terrible wig on. 647 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,600 - Yeah. 648 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,600 - There's just weird stuff. 649 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,440 - She's fighting with a lightsaber against like air conditioning dogs coming out. 650 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,440 - Yeah. 651 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,440 - Her like what was the budget on this tour? 652 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,800 - Her Vegas residency. 653 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:31,920 During California girls she was in a glittery toilet paper outfit like dress and then she 654 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,920 was singing the chorus with the challenge. 655 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,520 - To a big toilet poo in the toilet. 656 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,760 - That's it's not a dance put poo in the toilet. 657 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,760 - Yeah, like it's not camp. 658 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,760 It's not camp. 659 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,880 - She's like trying too hard. 660 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,880 - Yes. 661 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,880 - Gaga is camp. 662 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:46,880 - Yeah. 663 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,880 - This is cringey. 664 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,880 - Yeah. 665 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:49,880 - And there is a difference. 666 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,880 - Yeah. 667 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:51,880 - I don't know. 668 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,880 I don't know. 669 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,880 Does have a beautiful husband. 670 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,880 - Oh my god. 671 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,280 - And it makes me think less of Orlando Bloom. 672 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,480 I'm like what's going on there? 673 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,120 - I love Orlando Bloom. 674 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:04,080 When we were at Olivia's party as we've mentioned earlier the episode. 675 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,600 - You have to censor your words. 676 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,880 - I will choose my words wisely here. 677 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:14,000 We were all laying in the day bed after lots of drinks and it came up like we asked one 678 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,240 of the girls, hey did you know that Orlando Bloom is new? 679 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,240 It's on the internet. 680 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,240 Another girl's like, no does he? 681 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,240 And we're like, yeah. 682 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,240 - Okay, it's not like a leaf picture. 683 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,240 - He's kayaking. 684 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,240 - He's kayaking. 685 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,240 - Well, he's naked. 686 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,240 - Just on his knees. 687 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,240 Just pronounced. 688 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,240 - Yes. 689 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,080 - He's above Katy Perry's head. 690 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,080 - Yeah. 691 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,240 - He was searching for it. 692 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,720 It was it was a worthy service. 693 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,720 - It was. 694 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,720 - I loved it. 695 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,720 - Impressive. 696 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,320 - I've filled my Legolas fantasy. 697 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,320 - Yes. 698 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,280 - You know, from a young young age wanted to know what was under that skirt. 699 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,720 - And I found it. 700 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,720 - Yes. 701 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:54,360 His Elven staff is powerful. 702 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:58,160 He can put his pirate ship into my bag. 703 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,720 - Oh, that's a pirate ship. 704 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,200 Legolas doesn't have a pirate ship. 705 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,200 - I'm making more Orlando Bloom movie references. 706 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,000 - I like about his member. 707 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,000 - I get it now. 708 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,560 - You can steal that ship right into my port. 709 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:15,720 But yeah, we passed the phone around and we all were like, and then we took a-- 710 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,920 - We showed the server. 711 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,920 - We did. 712 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,920 And then we took a shot to Orlando Bloom's penis. 713 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:20,920 - Yeah. 714 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,920 - And then we said, "Oh, yeah, wait, wait, wait. 715 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,920 Olivia's birthday." 716 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,920 - Yeah, more important things. 717 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,920 Birthday too. 718 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,680 No, but, you know, it's out there. 719 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,680 You can find it. 720 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:35,040 - But yeah, I'm interested to know like if Katy Perry can get her career back on track. 721 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,520 I think that she needs to get away from the public eye. 722 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,280 I think that she-- I don't know. 723 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,280 I don't know if anybody-- everyone's sick of her. 724 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,120 She's made a lot of bad decisions. 725 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,000 She's very out of touch. 726 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,320 I think that's it. 727 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,320 She's out of touch with-- 728 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,520 - The biggest crime of all the right now. 729 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,320 - Yeah, being cringed and out of touch. 730 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,320 - Yeah. 731 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,320 - Like, we are in-- 732 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,320 - Gen Z cannot have it. 733 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:00,520 - No, but especially when we have all of these other pop girlies who seem so genuine, 734 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,400 they aren't trying too hard. 735 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,920 They stand up for what they believe in, but do it in like a meaningful way. 736 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:12,520 And if they're making distraction pop, which we need, the recession pop, we all need that. 737 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,320 Then they're doing it in a-- I don't know more of a spontaneous-- 738 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,320 - Oh, what's funny, man. 739 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,880 Katy Perry came up in a recession time. 740 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,920 So it is very, very interesting. 741 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,920 - Yeah. 742 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,920 - Yeah, I think that-- 743 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,200 - She hasn't been able to recapture it though. 744 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,280 - So Katy Perry during witness, like, had to disappear. 745 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,680 She did disappear. 746 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,120 And she spent, like, same with Jennifer Lawrence. 747 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:37,120 I think they're in different industries that are comparable, where it was like, "Oh, I'm 748 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:39,800 the every girl's moral." 749 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,600 I like beer, and I'm fun, and I don't need all these things. 750 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:50,440 I think that Jennifer Lawrence was that-- that's a very big A-Less movie star. 751 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,080 And then you looked at Katy Perry. 752 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,280 They both disappeared around the same time. 753 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,680 And they both stayed away for around the same time. 754 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,680 - Trust you. 755 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,080 - Jay-law came back good and authentic, and was like, "Okay, she was always-- 756 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,720 - I was gonna say-- - Jay-law's hate was totally unbounded. 757 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,520 It was misogyny, like, for sure. 758 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,160 - But how dare a girl be herself. 759 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,800 But Katy Perry, yeah, she-- 760 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,800 - Different. 761 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,800 - Yeah, absolutely. 762 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,560 Because hers doesn't seem authentic in the slightest. 763 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,360 - No, and that's a problem. 764 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:25,520 But I think that, you know, when people go through a mass hatred, Katy Perry isn't done 765 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,520 anything terrible. 766 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,520 Like, she went to space like a rich person, so do so many other men. 767 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,520 - Yeah, she's just-- 768 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,360 - But-- 769 00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:33,640 - She's tongue deaf, I think, is the thing. 770 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,760 It's like, she says she's one thing, "Oh, I'm a feminist, and I'm here for women," but 771 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,160 then she's not when it really comes down to it. 772 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,560 So I think that's her problem. 773 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,400 But yeah, I mean, she hasn't-- 774 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,280 - Yeah, she hasn't, like, done anything truly heinous like that. 775 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,280 - Yeah. 776 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,560 - And have a totally normal time. 777 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,560 - That is true. 778 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,560 We need to do an episode like this about the downfall of a man's career. 779 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,560 - Wow. 780 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,160 - And it'll be a lot different. 781 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,160 Because it'll be sad and violent. 782 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,160 - It'll be sad and violent. 783 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,160 - And it'll be crying. 784 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,160 - It'll be crying, somehow. 785 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,000 - She's kind of crenched. 786 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,000 - Yeah. 787 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,000 Yeah. 788 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,320 So obviously, none of this is that serious. 789 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:15,160 Katie Perry, you know, just doing the crime of the century as of right now in the Zeitgeist 790 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,160 being crenched. 791 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,400 - Being crenched, being town deaf. 792 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,920 Show up and do an actual volunteer activity. 793 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,400 If you're going to pretend that you're a feminist and that you care about shit, go to 794 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,400 plan parenthood. 795 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,400 - Yeah. 796 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:35,320 - Go feed some Palestinian children, go volunteer at an LGBT community organization. 797 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,320 Do something. 798 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,040 And I don't know. 799 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,320 Show us that you actually put your money where your mouth is and not just going to space 800 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,320 with the kids. 801 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,160 - Well, what's interesting is for like two weeks all the news cycle and pop culture was 802 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,880 like Katie Perry's crenched her tour socks. 803 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,880 - Yeah. 804 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,880 - Right. 805 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,320 And then the MacGala happened and someone like created a like a you. 806 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:03,680 News are created an AI image of her at the MacGala and that happened the year before and she 807 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,120 got a huge press head out of it a year before and I was like, that is definitely someone 808 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:13,920 from our team because if you Google Katie Perry right now, all you see is her like commenting 809 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,720 on the AI creation of the MacGala. 810 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,720 - To not. 811 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,560 She comments on things sometimes too and I'm like, "Girl, stop." 812 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,560 - Yeah. 813 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,560 - Wendy's. 814 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,560 Oh my god. 815 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,560 Before we go. 816 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,560 - We'll leave you with the last one. 817 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,560 - This is so funny. 818 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,560 - This is so funny. 819 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,560 - Okay. 820 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,880 It's a tweet that Katie Perry has landed back from space. 821 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,880 - Yes. 822 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,320 - Wendy's responds and says, "Can we send her back?" 823 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,880 - And then my favorite follow up. 824 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,280 - Wendy's the fast food chain. 825 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,920 - Wendy's the, they have fire. 826 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,920 - Wendy Williams. 827 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,920 - Oh my god. 828 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:46,920 - Rest in peace. 829 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,920 Wait, no, she's alive. 830 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:48,920 - She's alive. 831 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:49,920 - She's alive. 832 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:55,280 - So, Kevcha, who we've mentioned earlier from the Dr. Luke situation. 833 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,280 - Same day. 834 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:03,280 - Same day, posts a selfie of her in his eating Wendy's and is like, "Love me some Wendy's." 835 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,880 - Yeah, bringing out of a Wendy's cup. 836 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,880 - Bring out a Wendy's cup. 837 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,200 And we're like, "Yes girl." 838 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,920 She's clapped back without even having to like, say anything, just her going to Wendy's. 839 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,920 That was enough. 840 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,640 And I am seeing Kevcha this July 6th in Phoenix, Arizona. 841 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,760 And Olivia refuses to go with me because it'll be 150 degrees. 842 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,600 - I literally spend an ornamental leg to not experience a Phoenix summer anymore, but 843 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,600 I do love you. 844 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,840 You could have also come to San Francisco. 845 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,480 It's there three days before. 846 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,680 - She's coming three days before. 847 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,680 - Yeah, shit. 848 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,840 - Well, the tickets will be too expensive. 849 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,840 That's fourth of July. 850 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,560 - No, it's still like 50 bucks. 851 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,560 - Maybe I should just do both. 852 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,560 - Yeah. 853 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,560 - Just see her over and over again. 854 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,560 - Yes. 855 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,640 Dancing with my hands tied. 856 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,640 So good. 857 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,840 - Wait, no, wait, dancing with my tears in my eyes. 858 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,240 - I was like, "Is that Taylor?" 859 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,320 - Yeah, dancing with tears in my eyes. 860 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,000 I'll be the animal album. 861 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,520 All of animal by Kesha is a no-skip album. 862 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,760 Just like Teenage Dream is a no-skip album. 863 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,040 Not too much on my girl. 864 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,400 - I'm gonna be drunk and covered in sweat and glitter. 865 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,600 Which is the way I think Kesha wants it. 866 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,360 It's called the Tits Out Tour or something ridiculous. 867 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,320 - For my promo code to get the tickets, it was promo code Tits Out. 868 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,600 And I was like, "Dare me, I'll do it." 869 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,320 And to bring it all back to Taylor Swift, 'cause we're all through. 870 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:27,320 - So Katy Perry also named her tour the Lifetime's tour 871 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,120 right after the era's tour. 872 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,960 - Girl, come on. 873 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,960 - I'm just so embarrassing because you, 874 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,760 like there are so many tickets in footprint. 875 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,000 Like, footprint is the basketball stadium in Vegas. 876 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,920 - That's a big arena. 877 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:38,760 It's a big arena. 878 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,360 - It's still big, but it's big. 879 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,920 - It's not even a stadium tour, so. 880 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,920 - Taylor won. 881 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,760 - Taylor won in the event. 882 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,000 - The Lifetime's copying the era's is just. 883 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,840 - Yeah. 884 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,680 - It's cringe. 885 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,520 - It's cringe. 886 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,360 - Yeah. 887 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,360 - And have better dance moves. 888 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,800 - It's giving failure. 889 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,640 - Yeah. 890 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,840 - So this kid and auditioned for American Idol 891 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,360 and said he had never been kissed. 892 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,200 - Oh, yeah. 893 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,200 - And, okay, first of all, I think if you become a judge 894 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,760 in American Idol, you or a husband, you or a sellout. 895 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,760 - Or you do it to like reconnect with like a middle class, 896 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,600 like older audience. 897 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,600 - Yeah, I hate that. 898 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,600 - Yeah. 899 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,440 - Yeah, I know. 900 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,280 I hate it. 901 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,120 - Yeah. 902 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,480 - And this kid said he had never been kissed before. 903 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,960 And so she did that thing. 904 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,800 - Should we kiss him? 905 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,520 - I feel like for 10s, she's gonna do his cheek 906 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,720 and the kisses and the mouth. 907 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,960 - That's his kids first kiss. 908 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,280 - For a senior old, yeah. 909 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,600 - A stripper did that to me at my bachelor at party. 910 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,440 - Sure. 911 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,440 - No, like your first kiss. 912 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,080 (laughing) 913 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,440 - I didn't say that. 914 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,240 - Well, yeah, you just did. 915 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,480 - He did the thing where I leaned into kissing 916 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,800 on the cheek and he turned his head and kissed me on the nose. 917 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,840 - Okay, there you go. 918 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,680 Here you go. 919 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,120 - It was my first kiss. 920 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,080 I was saving it for my husband. 921 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:43,920 - Gross. 922 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,440 (laughing) 923 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,280 - But yeah, so Katy Perry sucks. 924 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:53,480 I think that's it for the Pop Culture Junkie podcast and our time together in the studio. 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