1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,080 ♪ Entertain me, Entertain me right now! ♪ 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,980 - Hello and welcome to the one and only 3 00:00:06,980 --> 00:00:09,000 Pop Culture Junkie podcast. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,480 We trademarked that name, bitches. 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:12,320 - That's right. 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:13,160 - That's right. 7 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,320 - We are litigious. 8 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,320 - Litigious. 9 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:17,520 - We are litigious. 10 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,360 - I like that. 11 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,200 - Yes, yeah. 12 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,040 - Not really. 13 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:20,880 - Who are you? 14 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:21,880 - My name is Olivia. 15 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:22,840 - My name is Shauna. 16 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,040 - Yeah, and it's so good to be back with you guys. 17 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,000 If it's your first time with us, welcome. 18 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,280 We're so excited to have you. 19 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,560 And if you're a returning listener, 20 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,800 we're ready to get into it. 21 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,840 So Shauna, since I've been gone, 22 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,920 I've heard that you actually had quite the encounter. 23 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:39,840 - I did. 24 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,840 Okay, so I have two jobs. 25 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,000 I don't know how it happened. 26 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,120 Whoops. 27 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,040 - The Academy. 28 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,360 - Technically three. 29 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,160 - Oh god, this is a job too. 30 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:50,000 - Yeah. 31 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:50,840 - Shit, I need to do it. 32 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:51,680 - Good bad. 33 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:52,760 This is my last episode. 34 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,160 (laughing) 35 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,120 So I bartend at a place in Phoenix. 36 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:04,120 And it was a chill Sunday night in this guy walks in 37 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,120 and he had a mask on like a COVID style mask 38 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,600 and just has on a baby blue like New York Yankees hat 39 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,880 with the stickers still on, 40 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,840 believe fucking belt. 41 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:15,680 - Okay. 42 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,480 - And these clean Jordans. 43 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,400 - Okay. 44 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,680 - And it's like, can I buy something so I can charge my cell phone 45 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,440 and I said, well, yeah, of course, you're on a beard. 46 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,540 So he sits at the bar, 47 00:01:25,540 --> 00:01:27,280 his plugs in his cell phone and I was like, 48 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,720 what do you usually like to drink? 49 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,200 - Bud light. 50 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,440 - Well, we don't have any Bud light 51 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,440 'cause we're a craft beer bar. 52 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,480 But here let me pour you like a light beer or something similar. 53 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,600 So I put it down in front of him and it came out to like 54 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,440 $6 and he puts down a 20. 55 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,280 I give him his change and he just leaves the change sitting there. 56 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,320 And after a couple of minutes, he's like, this is your tip. 57 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:46,160 - Yeah. 58 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,880 - Like, okay. 59 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,000 Interesting. 60 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,600 - He leaves the mask on and he's sitting there talking 61 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,880 to a guy at the bar and they're talking about kid cutie 62 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,280 and Kanye, like old Kanye versus New Kanye. 63 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,680 - And I thought this was the most interesting part. 64 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,440 So they're going into this discussion of music. 65 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,440 - How Kanye has really started to go downhill, right? 66 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,360 - He said that he does not like, 67 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,520 I haven't even said who this is. 68 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,600 - Yeah, no, but that's a point. 69 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,440 - Okay. 70 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,880 So he is talking about how new Kanye's music's weird. 71 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,600 He has some song, I guess I didn't listen to it 72 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,200 'cause fuck Kanye, where he repeats the same term, 73 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,400 like 23 times. 74 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,640 And he was like, seriously, you think that's cool 75 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:28,480 to the next guy? 76 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,320 - Yeah. 77 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,020 - Like they were joking, riffing, 78 00:02:30,020 --> 00:02:31,760 'cause he's like, oh, I think Kanye is a matte, 79 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,600 a matte, a matte. 80 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,240 - I don't know, I still like him. 81 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,400 And he's like, he thought that was cool. 82 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,240 - He thought that was good. 83 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,080 - He said that's what he was talking to. 84 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,600 - He thought that was good. 85 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,280 - And I'm looking at him and I can see his eyes. 86 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,880 And I said, you look a lot like Lil Nas X. 87 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,320 And he's like, yeah, I get that a lot. 88 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,440 At this point, he still is not taking a single sip 89 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,280 of his peer. 90 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,320 - Yeah, 'cause he doesn't want to take the mask off. 91 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,200 - He doesn't want to take the mask off. 92 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,440 - And so I start putting like this together. 93 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,960 I'm like, why did he tip us so much for single beer 94 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,400 that he hasn't even drank? 95 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:01,640 Hasn't taken his mask off, 96 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:04,360 'cause he doesn't want us to see his face. 97 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,720 So he's there for a while. 98 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,720 He ends up buying like a can to go. 99 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,920 He only takes off his mask when he goes to the back 100 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:11,520 of the restaurant. 101 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,120 We're no one can see him. 102 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,080 And I see him dancing to the music like this. 103 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,200 (laughing) 104 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,480 And I was like, and I texted my coworker 105 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,760 and I said, dog, I'm pretty sure that's Lil Nas X. 106 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,480 Like I think that is him. 107 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:25,480 - Yeah. 108 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,320 - So he's paying, closing out on the, 109 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,720 he pays for the to go beer. 110 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,680 And again, tips another like 10 bucks, 20 bucks. 111 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,120 And I was like, you have to tell us 112 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,320 if you're secretly a little Nas X, okay. 113 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,000 And he just goes, oh, you caught me all jokingly. 114 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,120 A black sedan pulls up in the middle of the street 115 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,440 outside with tinted windows. 116 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,280 He walks up, gets in the back seat and drives away. 117 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,600 And I go Lil Nas X's Instagram page. 118 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:52,440 - Yeah. 119 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:53,280 - He's in Arizona. 120 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,120 - Oh wow. 121 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,800 - And he posted the same hat that he was wearing. 122 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,440 So it was 100% Lil Nas X. 123 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,400 - I love it, but he's like, oh, I'll pay for something. 124 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,640 It's like, you could have just been like, 125 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,720 can I trust my phone? 126 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,960 - He could have been like, I'm Lil Nas X. 127 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,200 Can I trust my phone? 128 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,040 - Yes. 129 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,960 - I would have probably had a lot more questions. 130 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,280 Like what, what's going on? 131 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,400 - Why am I here? 132 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,960 - He walked in through like the weird side entrance 133 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,200 on the street. 134 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,240 - Oh, maybe he has like a hook up. 135 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,560 - That's for the week. 136 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,720 The rest of the night was just, 137 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,080 all the customers, he came and all the regulars were like, 138 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,360 Lil Nas X was just here. 139 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,440 - Yeah, it's for the real T of it all is the opinion on Kanye. 140 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,560 - It's the correct opinion. 141 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,400 - It's a correct opinion. 142 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,560 - It's much better on you, God yeah. 143 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:35,400 - Yeah. 144 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,200 - And then he was very nice. 145 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,680 He was so delightful. 146 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,520 And then I found a lot, 147 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,600 'cause I was searching Reddit. 148 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,400 I was in a Lil Nas X Reddit holder. 149 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,240 - Yeah. 150 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,920 - And I found a lot of pictures of him wearing those shoes, 151 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,640 wearing the belt with the hat. 152 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,120 - So you really went in and there are a lot of things. 153 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,560 - Yeah, I love that. 154 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,560 - He was so thoughtful. 155 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:52,400 - He was so thoughtful. 156 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,800 - The one time I'm gone, I was like, damn it. 157 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:55,640 - Literally. 158 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,480 And I took that ship from another bartender 159 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,080 that she came in later to like drink. 160 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,400 And she's like, the one night I'm not working, 161 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,960 you get to meet Lil Nas X. 162 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,960 After I told him, but he looked like Lil Nas X, 163 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,800 I was like, that's a compliment by the way, 164 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,120 because I love him. 165 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:10,960 - Yeah. 166 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,200 - And I really do. 167 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,040 I love him. 168 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:13,880 - Yeah. 169 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,400 - So it's so meta. 170 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,960 - It's amazing. 171 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,280 - That is true. 172 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:20,880 Like I bet you celebrities really look at COVID 173 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,520 so differently because they did get anonymity 174 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,960 that they didn't normally have. 175 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,640 And like I think Lil Nas X has very distinct eyes, 176 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,120 but even that's how I thought he's pretty nice. 177 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:32,960 - Oh geez. 178 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,400 - No, like who that person is. 179 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,600 And like, you know, like someone like a Harry Styles. 180 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:39,440 - Yeah. 181 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,760 - Who would normally get like stalked. 182 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,280 Like people figured out what his mass face looked like. 183 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:44,120 - Yeah. 184 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,000 - But for like a period of time, like they were able 185 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,240 to kind of go out and I exist. 186 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,480 So it's probably like a weird juxtaposition for them of like, 187 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,880 oh yeah, I can just look like it. 188 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,720 - Kind of lay in the-- 189 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:55,520 - Someone who's like a germaphogue. 190 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,360 - Yeah. 191 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,360 And like when he first walked in, 192 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,600 that's what I just kind of assumed. 193 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,400 I can no offense to anyone who still looks mask. 194 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:01,880 Like I mean deficient to people. 195 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,040 - Do you need it? 196 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,320 - But then it became clear that he's not even drinking the beer. 197 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,160 He never took a single sip of the beer. 198 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,000 - Yeah. 199 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,280 - I guess you would have to go like up. 200 00:06:10,280 --> 00:06:11,120 - Yeah. 201 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:11,960 - And like, yeah. 202 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,640 - And then I saw one picture of him recently 203 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,200 and he had like grills and stuff. 204 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,560 - And I, then you would have really, really, yeah. 205 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,960 So I could just man with a diamonds in his teeth 206 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,160 and from a big, his diamond earrings too. 207 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,000 Like longer. 208 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,240 - I looked at him, I was like, this is a wealthy person. 209 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,760 (laughing) 210 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,200 I have my shea and earrings on. 211 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,080 I'm like, this is like rich person. 212 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,200 - I love that so much. 213 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,120 Well, while you were meeting Little Nons' ex, 214 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,200 I was actually watching the sequel, "Lives of Mormon Wise," 215 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,440 which, to a very, very, very different-- 216 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:44,600 - Speaking of Little Nons' ex. 217 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,600 - Oh, so, you know, the, so they were, 218 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,880 well, Taylor Frankie Paul, who's like the main character 219 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,040 on the show, is known for the soft swinging Mormon. 220 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,440 - Okay, wait, real quick clarifying question. 221 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,640 Is this a reality show or a scripted show? 222 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:01,760 - It's a reality show. 223 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:02,840 - Okay, what's it on? 224 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:07,040 - It's on Hulu now, but it started with these TikTokers. 225 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,520 And so basically like a couple of years ago, 226 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,640 the soft swinging Mormon scandal came out. 227 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,160 - It's the soft swinging. 228 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,600 But like, actually having sex. 229 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,960 - So so. - So then get that far into it. 230 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,680 But they were like swapping, they were like, 231 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,720 swapping husbands, and doing all the stuff. 232 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,560 - Would they do all the stuff? 233 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:26,400 - And stuff? 234 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:27,240 - The side sex. 235 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,480 Like, they weren't doing sex. 236 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,320 - Yeah, yeah. 237 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,600 They weren't doing sex, but they're doing everything but. 238 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,280 And so it comes out, but like, it comes out on Reddit. 239 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,680 And so this girl, Taylor Frankie Paul, 240 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,000 decides to just be like, you know what, screw it. 241 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,120 No one's taking my story. 242 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,200 I'm gonna go tell it. 243 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,040 - How it? 244 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,640 - It's on the internet and starts telling this whole story. 245 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,280 And you know, the Hulu producers were like, 246 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,280 we gotta get on with this. 247 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,120 - More Mormons. 248 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,880 - And so they start shooting this pilot 249 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,440 with this woman, Taylor Frankie Paul. 250 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,160 As this happens, she starts stating another guy, 251 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,880 while they're filming the pilot, 252 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,320 she gets arrested for domestic violence. 253 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,160 - Oh my God. 254 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,760 - And it is called the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. 255 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,000 And it's all about this Mormon mom talk like, 256 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,080 is it like Utah, like they are very Mormon? 257 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:15,920 - Even more Mormon. 258 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,600 - Some of them are very Mormon. 259 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,600 Some of them are not very Mormon on the show. 260 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,120 - Is there they like fundamentalist? 261 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,280 - Yeah, I mean, most Mormon Utah's are very, very strict. 262 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,600 Just because they've grown up in that culture. 263 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,120 So it's, this is how the world got introduced to them. 264 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,120 And then you come in and it's the first episode 265 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,120 I will not lie, it's a little hard to get through. 266 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,720 But after it looked me. 267 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,560 - In turn. 268 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:39,400 - Oh my God, it's so good. 269 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,960 I never followed them before, but now I'm just like, 270 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,840 it's so sucked in on all their drama. 271 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,880 There's a bunch of after-cash drama. 272 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:46,720 - What? 273 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:47,560 - This one male-ciffin of world. 274 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:50,040 - I'm really in reality shows most of the time. 275 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,040 - She wants to play the victim so bad, 276 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,760 but in turn she made herself the biggest villain 277 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,440 in the whole show. 278 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,600 And it's so good. 279 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,560 And I'm just so excited for her season too. 280 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:04,040 So a very opposite size of the spectrum. 281 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,440 But we were having fun. 282 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,080 I was, I was in a hotel in San Francisco, 283 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,000 learned about Utah, but two very different places. 284 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Let's say that, you know. 285 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,520 - So funny that like the things that we've watched 286 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:17,520 when we were in a hotel room, 287 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,200 pretty true amount of time, like you end up 288 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,080 rewatching old Adam Sandler movies. 289 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,320 They're always on. 290 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,080 Happy Gilmore is always on. 291 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:24,920 - Yeah. 292 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,920 - Or you find some E or was Bravo or something 293 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:28,920 and you're like, whatever. 294 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,280 - Yeah, I got all the sex in the city. 295 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,760 - It's always all sex in the city. 296 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,600 And I watch that in every hotel room. 297 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,480 But yeah, it's like you gotta find something 298 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:36,960 to kill those evenings. 299 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:37,800 - Kill those evenings. 300 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,560 - Kill those evenings. 301 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:40,400 - Awesome. 302 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,640 Well, that sounds amazing. 303 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:42,480 - Yeah. 304 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,000 - Speaking of what might happen to us in the afterlife, 305 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,920 we're gonna talk about a movie sequel 306 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,640 that recently came out that was 40 years in the making. 307 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,400 (dramatic music) 308 00:09:54,400 --> 00:10:00,240 The biggest movie news this past year or so, probably. 309 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,360 Was the announcement of a sequel to Beetlejuice 310 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,480 some 49 years since the first one. 311 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,920 I'm just kidding, it was 36. 312 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,760 - You made me feel pretty old then. 313 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:10,600 - What? 314 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:11,440 - What? 315 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:12,280 - What? 316 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,280 - How did that work? 317 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,360 - How did that work? 318 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,640 Tim Burton made a sequel to the first movie 319 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,000 and it just came out. 320 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,880 We're gonna talk about that and have a slightly 321 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,800 spoilery discussion. 322 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,520 But let's first revisit the reason for the sequel, 323 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,240 1988 Beetlejuice. 324 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,080 - Yes. 325 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,720 And so like we mentioned, 326 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,960 we're gonna talk a little bit about Beetlejuice. 327 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,680 It came out 36 years ago. 328 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:37,560 So we are gonna spoil that a little bit for you. 329 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:38,600 - When we were in "Spoil This Movie" 330 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:39,440 that came out in the '80s. 331 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,280 - Yeah, absolutely. 332 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,120 - Yes, yes, yes. 333 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,320 Once we get into the newest movie that came out, 334 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,800 "Beatlejuice Beetlejuice," we will kind of let you know 335 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,000 when the spoilers are so you can pause it, 336 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 come back after you've seen the movie. 337 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 - Mm-hmm. 338 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,240 - But you know, really earlier today, 339 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,200 I wanted to actually go in and rewatch Beetlejuice. 340 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,840 You know, you guys had done an episode on Beetlejuice 341 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:01,840 in the past, the trailer. 342 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:02,680 - And I was pre-elever. 343 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:04,000 - Before I had joined. 344 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,680 So I wanted to kind of quickly give out my 345 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:09,440 rendition of my Beetlejuice thoughts 346 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,360 and really ultimately what I thought of the movie. 347 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,400 The first note that I have for you guys is, 348 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,000 how did I forget "Alic Baldwin" used to be so hot? 349 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,880 - He was so handsome in this movie. 350 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,880 - Yeah, oh my God. 351 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,040 - And she and Davis is gorgeous. 352 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,040 - Yeah, I think it's all the evil inside of "Alic Baldwin" 353 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,360 that made me forget it. 354 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,440 And then it has made him just like rapidly lose it. 355 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,280 - He just gets like saggy or 356 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,160 - Yeah. - And they're more cranky. 357 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,520 - Yeah, all the hateful and - Yeah, all the hateful. 358 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,360 - All the hateful. - All the hateful. 359 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,520 - All the hateful. - All the hateful. 360 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:41,520 - And all those things. 361 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,680 But really, 362 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:46,480 the rapid succession of my note is, 363 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,800 what would you realistically do if your neighbor 364 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,760 was putting your house on the market without your consent? 365 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:52,760 - What? 366 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:53,920 - Can you imagine? 367 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,560 - Like she just comes in and it's like, 368 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:57,640 this house is much too big for you. 369 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,160 I've actually put it on the off, 370 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,440 or I put it up and I'm already getting offers for this. 371 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,600 - How dare you live here? 372 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,440 - Yeah, first of all. 373 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:04,840 - Because you don't have children. 374 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,480 - And it's like, like what a crazy concept. 375 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,320 Just your neighbor actually putting her house 376 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,600 on the market without her consent. 377 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:13,440 - She's hustling. 378 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:14,440 - She's a real estate. - She's a real estate. 379 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,440 - She's a real estate. - She's a real estate. 380 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:17,280 - She has some work. 381 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,280 - It's chill. 382 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,040 - I love these just random notes. 383 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,360 - Yeah, the next one is, 384 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,920 that dog had murder in its soul. 385 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,520 - I forgot there was a dog. 386 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,440 - The dog murders them. 387 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,280 A lot of murders. 388 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,560 - I was like runs in front of the con. 389 00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:30,720 - Yeah, runs in front of the con. 390 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,560 - That's her. - And then they actually 391 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:33,400 like fall into the water. 392 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,240 - That's her, okay. 393 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,360 - I do have some semantics of it 394 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,240 because the windows were open. 395 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,120 So realistically, 396 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,600 how could we not get out of the car? 397 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,640 - Maybe they just gave up. 398 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,920 - Yeah, they just said, you know what, screw it. 399 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,600 - I mean, at some point you just kind of go, 400 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:49,520 "It had to take me." 401 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:50,280 - When I was actually-- - She just 402 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,120 - She just took the wheel. 403 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,880 - When I was researching this though, 404 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,440 the original script for this film 405 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,600 had a much much darker turn. 406 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,400 - Like that thing. - That they were gonna do. 407 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,760 Where it was these people from within this city 408 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,400 of wherever they are in Connecticut 409 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,760 is chasing them, like kind of like pitchfork style. 410 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:09,760 - Or what? 411 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,960 - And ultimately they're trying to avoid them 412 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,240 and they drown. 413 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,040 - So they died like the 1600s or something. 414 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,120 - Yeah, they drown. 415 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,520 - Like horrifically, like while these people 416 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,960 were chasing them and they ended up cutting it out 417 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,720 of the story to make it more of like a horror comedy. 418 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,560 - Yeah. 419 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:29,440 - Ultimately I think it was a good choice, 420 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,120 but the original-- - A dog 421 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,520 - Reading out in front of your car 422 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,520 and you fall off the bridge. 423 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:33,360 - Yeah, it's pretty. 424 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,200 - It's pretty like, oh, yeah. 425 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,040 - Yeah, yeah. 426 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,440 - Oh, I'm in my dream house, my staycation, 427 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,960 and then they end up getting there. 428 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,200 My next no was ultimately, 429 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,400 if there are six in the afterlife, 430 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,240 does that mean that there's weed? 431 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,480 I'm asking the really important question, 432 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:50,440 fear. - I live in order to know 433 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,520 before she goes. (laughs) 434 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,320 If she can bring her Rick and Morty Bong. 435 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,640 - Yeah, it's a fair question. 436 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,680 - It's my Rick and Morty coming with me. 437 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:00,880 He better, me seeks, me seeks, you know. 438 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,960 - And you name your Bong, Mr. Meessing. 439 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,560 - Yeah, because it helps me with so many things, you know. 440 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:07,560 Me seek. 441 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:08,400 - Me seek. 442 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,720 - Yeah, and then my final no in this one was 443 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,080 Keaton must have had so much fun being this character, 444 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,120 and he's recently said in interviews 445 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,600 that this is actually his favorite character, 446 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:19,800 he's played all time, so. 447 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,680 - He just gets to be so silly in goofy, 448 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,960 and he gets that one F-bomb per movie. 449 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,240 - Yeah, I wonder if he was like, 450 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,920 channeling a specific person, 451 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,640 like, you know how Patrick Bateman is inspired 452 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,200 by Tom Cruise. 453 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,360 - Jumping up and down the couch. 454 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,840 - Yeah, I really are just the psychopaths. 455 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,200 - Just the best thing. 456 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,920 - That Tom Cruise is is like, 457 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,040 who do you think Keaton was like channeling? 458 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,440 Like, in my mind, the first thing I thought of 459 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,000 was like Harvey Weinstein. 460 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,320 - Oh my God. 461 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,800 - 'Cause Beetlejuice is a fucking creep, okay. 462 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,640 - Beetlejuice really is. 463 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,800 - He's a been the first movie. 464 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:50,880 - In the first movie, he's a predator. 465 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,720 - He's very, very touchy. 466 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:53,920 - He's like, roping. 467 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:54,760 - He's roping. 468 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:55,600 - He's roping. 469 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,200 - Real quick, we've already kind of covered it, 470 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,520 but Beetlejuice was directed by Tim Burton, 471 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,160 Michael McDowell, Warren Scar and Larry Wilson, 472 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,480 got writing credits. 473 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,920 Alec Baldwin and Gina Davis were in it, 474 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,160 famously Michael Keaton that we mentioned 475 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,760 and our fave here at the podcast, Winona writer. 476 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,200 The obnoxious Beetlejuice played by Michael Keaton 477 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,680 was kind of a predator. 478 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,680 He wants to marry Lydia, who is a teenager. 479 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,640 - She's strange. 480 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:24,480 - Yeah. 481 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,320 - And unusual. 482 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,160 - She's so weird. 483 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,400 - I quote Beetlejuice all the time, Andrew. 484 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,720 Whenever I, like, 485 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,400 in a depressive episode or because I'm quote, 486 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,640 "Gotha, Jason." 487 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:35,480 - Yeah. 488 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,480 - My whole life is a dark room. 489 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,800 One, dark room. 490 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:40,800 (laughs) 491 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,400 - He's like, are you doing okay? 492 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,240 - No. 493 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,080 - No. 494 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,240 - Have I ever? 495 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,840 - I do think it's kind of interesting. 496 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,800 So like the way that Tim Burton displays purgatory, 497 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:55,120 really ultimately is like the civil servant government office. 498 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:55,960 - Is it a shot? 499 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,040 - Like even after you die, 500 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,760 you still have to have a shot. 501 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,000 - Are you kidding me? 502 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,240 That's my health. 503 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,480 - Well, that's like the joke in the first one. 504 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,600 She's like, I wouldn't have had my little accident. 505 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,440 If I knew this was gonna happen. 506 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,040 So like Tim Burton's portrayal of purgatory, 507 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,000 which is where you go in religion. 508 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,000 If you, you know, live yourself is civil servant. 509 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:18,840 (laughs) 510 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,200 - It's kind of weird, like, if you think about Tim Burton's, 511 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,680 I don't know, concept of the afterlife, like you're saying. 512 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,520 So there's a heaven and a hell, it seems like. 513 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,960 And then in this area where beetle juiced 514 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,480 in the waiting room exists is kind of your waiting room. 515 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,160 So when you first die, no matter how good you are on earth, 516 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,360 you have to go here. 517 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,200 - Yep. 518 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,280 - And then they decide whether or not you go to the great beyond 519 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,640 or you burn and hell, I kind of. 520 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,360 - So the way that I thought of it more was Burton's idea was, 521 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,040 you are within the place that you died. 522 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,560 And if you want to try to go somewhere else or change that, 523 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,960 like you go into that civil servanthood, 524 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:01,520 but I don't know if the lore behind it 525 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,960 has really been broken down, or meant to be. 526 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,200 - I mean, I guess we can't hurt someone 527 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,600 - It's much smarter than us has done it. 528 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,640 - Right, I guess we'll get a little into it 529 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,320 when we talk about the sequel. 530 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,480 'Cause they have different levels of kind of the afterlife 531 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:15,280 than the ATES. 532 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,800 So we'll retouch that there. 533 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,600 But I would hate to think that I was like a good person, 534 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,000 my whole life, and then I'd die. 535 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,320 And I'd just like, 536 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,760 - Sean, you have to work at the DMV now. 537 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,640 Are you kidding me? 538 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,720 - Yeah, I like, no, wait, why? 539 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,840 - I should have sent more. 540 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,280 - I don't know if I know it. 541 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,000 I was just gonna be at the DMV no matter what. 542 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,400 I would have done a lot more for that. 543 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,560 - I would have had a lot more fun. 544 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,120 I would have had a lot more fun. 545 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:39,720 - Well, what's really interesting about the first 546 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,520 Beetlejuice movie, and I think a lot of people forget this 547 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,040 is this is actually Tim Burton's second movie 548 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:45,880 than he ever did. 549 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,000 - I didn't know that. 550 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:47,840 - What was the first one? 551 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:48,840 - Peewee's big adventure. 552 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,840 - Oh my God, I always forget that he did. 553 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,840 - Yeah, so he was very like fun and kind of silly and goofy. 554 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,200 And that's how people saw him. 555 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,880 And a lot of the people who took this all thought 556 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,920 that their careers were gonna be ended 557 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,200 by teaming this on. 558 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,040 - Interesting. 559 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,400 - But they believed in it as like an independent film 560 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,760 and something that was worth saying. 561 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,640 And most people don't know this, 562 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,080 but the studio at the last minute 563 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,520 wanted to rename it from Beetlejuice to House of Ghost, 564 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,360 which are you talking? 565 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:19,280 - House of Ghost. 566 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,440 - House of Ghost, what? 567 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,280 - That's dumb. 568 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,840 - The dumbest thing I've ever heard. 569 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:23,680 - Don't lie. 570 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,480 - And in sarcasm, Tim Burton said, 571 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,680 "We should just call it scared sheetless." 572 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,360 And the producers didn't take it as a joke 573 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:34,280 and it was almost called scared sheetless. 574 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,120 (laughing) 575 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:37,600 - Which I actually didn't hate it 576 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,760 because they do have the sheets over them 577 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,040 and the first movie. 578 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,800 And it's a little bit of tongue and cheek within it, 579 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,360 but I think ultimately like for it to not be Beetlejuice 580 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:51,160 would just be like there is a alternate universe 581 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,560 where that exists and who knows? 582 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,720 - The burn cut. 583 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,720 - Yeah, right. 584 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,000 - Yeah, scared sheetless. 585 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,840 - I love the practical effects in the original Beetlejuice 586 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,800 and they bring that a lot back for the second one 587 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,160 how it's kind of the practical, 588 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:03,680 - The practical, - The practical, 589 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:04,680 - and practical. 590 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,120 - I love that style that Tim Burton brings us up. 591 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:09,480 - So the first movie out of all the budget, 592 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,720 they only dedicated $1 million to CGI 593 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,360 in the original movie. 594 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:19,120 And at the time CGI was not what it is today. 595 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:21,480 So that was ultimately like nothing in there 596 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,600 and he really wanted to keep that practical element 597 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,000 and he's really done that a lot throughout the movies 598 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,200 that he's been within. 599 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,400 Actually, one of the main negotiation points 600 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,240 that Tim Burton and Michael Keaton both had 601 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,320 with doing Beetlejuice Beetlejuice 602 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,160 was they did not want overproduction of CGI 603 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,560 and that they had to continue stop motion 604 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,000 in a lot of these real aspects of the movie. 605 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,400 - Yeah, and some interesting facts that I found 606 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,920 was researching for this is instead of the iconic 607 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,200 dayo song that we all know that is persistent 608 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,720 throughout the movie, it was actually almost 609 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,920 two different songs in stead. 610 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,920 And so it's, if I didn't care by the ink spots 611 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,560 would have been within the dinner scene. 612 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,360 - I know, familiar song from 1939. 613 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:16,200 - Okay. 614 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,960 - So don't play me if I'm not knowing it. 615 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,800 And then in the final scene where Lydia is with the, 616 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,280 like lifted up after she passed the elevetating. 617 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,960 - Yeah, it was going to be when a man loves a woman. 618 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,160 - Oh, that's kind of cute. 619 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,000 - Yeah. 620 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:30,840 - What did it end up being? 621 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,680 I don't remember. 622 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,840 - Jumping the line. 623 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,680 - Mm-hmm. 624 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,320 - Any of the football players and all that in there. 625 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,160 - Oh, that's right. 626 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,000 - Oh, man. 627 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,360 Oh my God, that scene at the dinner table 628 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:40,600 where they're singing dayo is so fun. 629 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,120 - Yeah, we really can't stop it. 630 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:44,120 - And then, the Capitol hair is amazing 631 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:46,040 because she puts her facial expressions 632 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,320 of just being confused, but also dancing. 633 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,320 - She's such a good physical comedy. 634 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,320 - You know, okay, I watched Beetlejuice 635 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,360 when we had our Beetlejuice episode three years ago, maybe. 636 00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:02,560 I didn't see Beetlejuice until I was in my 20s. 637 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:03,400 - Really? 638 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,240 - Yeah. 639 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,080 - I have no idea why. 640 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,120 - I think I was like nine. 641 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:08,960 - And that's a most people, like most millennials. 642 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,280 - It just escaped me. 643 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,120 I don't know why. 644 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:15,160 - And I also used to be very sensitive. 645 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,560 I had a sensitive disposition as a child. 646 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,400 - To what? 647 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,200 - Things just scared me very easily. 648 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,040 - Oh, that's interesting. 649 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,480 - Yeah, and so if I saw something in a movie 650 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,800 or something that I thought was scary 651 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,000 or that might be scary, I was like, 652 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:26,920 I don't wanna watch that. 653 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:27,920 It looks scary. 654 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:28,760 - Really? 655 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,080 - And now I love horror movies, but, 656 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,920 and not a whole lot offends me unless it's gratuitous violence. 657 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,520 But, no, I think as a kid, I just thought, 658 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,800 oh, that looks like a scary movie. 659 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,120 I don't wanna watch that. 660 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:40,360 So it took me a long time, 661 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:41,920 but, I mean, now I love it. 662 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,120 I think it's amazing. 663 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:43,960 - That's interesting. 664 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,680 - Well, in the original script, 665 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,520 Larry Wilson, he's one of the producers, 666 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,560 actually talks about the original ending for Lydia, 667 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,280 was actually gonna be significantly darker. 668 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,120 - Ooh. 669 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:58,120 - And the film would have ended with Lydia dying in a fire 670 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:00,920 and joining her friends in the afterlife. 671 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,800 - Oh, no, that's off. 672 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,160 - They changed it, considering the message, 673 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,400 it would send to young people that death would be 674 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,880 a happy ending. 675 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,720 - Yeah. 676 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,920 - And she was dealing with suicidal ideations 677 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:14,760 throughout the movie. 678 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,080 - She's depressed the whole living room. 679 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,840 - So I think that it was good that they changed it. 680 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,640 - That reminds me of the finale 681 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,240 of chilling adventures of Sabrina. 682 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,640 She dies, and then her boyfriend ends up killing himself, 683 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,440 so he can be with her in the afterlife. 684 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,440 And I remember thinking that ruined the whole show. 685 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,280 - Yeah. 686 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,200 - Because she was like, so it's young people watching this stuff, 687 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,520 and they think, oh, I could just kill myself 688 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,120 to be with my friends again. 689 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:38,120 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 690 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:39,120 - The snow, the snow, the snow, the snow. 691 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:43,040 - And some original script things that were changed. 692 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,560 Beetlejuice, well, first Lydia wasn't gonna be 693 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,560 the main character. 694 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,600 Lydia had a sister who was gonna be the main character. 695 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,360 They ended up cutting her. 696 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:55,120 Beetlejuice was supposed to be a short Middle Eastern man, 697 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:59,560 who eventually turned into like a bat with wings thing. 698 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,280 And Tim Burton decided to change that. 699 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,160 And the original director on this project 700 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,920 was actually Wes Craven. 701 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,280 Before he left, and they gave it to Tim Burton. 702 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,320 - Interesting, so different would it have been? 703 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,000 - Yes, Wes Craven was willing to be the main character. 704 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,840 - I think the original script would have made sense 705 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,560 for Wes Craven, because the brutal murder from the town 706 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:22,920 is people-- - It would have been a lot darker 707 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,800 and maybe not like in tongue and cheek comedy. 708 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,760 - Yeah, and up the cold toss like it is today. 709 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,880 - But a fun fact that I know about Beetlejuice. 710 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,240 Beetlejuice is only on screen for 18 minutes 711 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,880 in the Forrestville. - Yes. 712 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,520 - So he makes such an impact in that first movie 713 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,200 with such little screen time, 714 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,840 and the whole thing's named after him. 715 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,760 - Yeah, but it's like you watch that movie 716 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,640 and you don't realize really he was only in it for 18 minutes 717 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:46,720 like I've just said. 718 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,920 - You know the part where he like kicks down the tree 719 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,040 and he's like, "What is that?" 720 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,640 And like grabs his nuts or whatever. 721 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,720 That is so gross. - That is so gross. 722 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,560 - It defends it. 723 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,360 - Yeah, that is actually an outtake of the set. 724 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:01,520 Actually wasn't supposed to do that. 725 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,240 And he kicks it and it falls down 726 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,360 and he was doing that at the set like a designer. 727 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:07,520 - Oh my God. 728 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,720 - And Timberlion decided to keep it in. 729 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,240 - That's hilarious. - And so there are 730 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,200 a lot of those little moments within it. 731 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,680 One of the really interesting things that I saw 732 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,040 from everyone within this project 733 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,120 and a lot of Timberlion projects is he lets people 734 00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:27,120 lead with the character they want to go forward with. 735 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:28,800 - Like let it open around with it. 736 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,440 - Yeah, and Beetlejuice is such a bombastic character 737 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,680 that you have to let him kind of riff. 738 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,280 Like you have to, you throw Jim Carrey 739 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,320 or Robin Williams in a movie. 740 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,440 - You gotta let them just be playable then. 741 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,440 - You gotta let them just be down. 742 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,560 - Yeah, and everyone who's worked with him 743 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,320 and a lot of the people who do work with him 744 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,920 stick with him for a very long time 745 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,440 because he has such a specific directorial style 746 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,040 and lets artists be artists. 747 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,760 And I think Timberlion, this being his second film, 748 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,600 is so crazy because he's so influential 749 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,840 and really makes Winona Ryder so influential 750 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,840 after this moment. 751 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,640 - Johnny Depp, eventually with his career, 752 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,800 Edward Scissorhans. 753 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,000 - Yes, that's Timberlion. 754 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:09,840 - It's after. 755 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,120 - Yeah, and Winona again, Helen a bottom-carter 756 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:14,880 who is his wife and I think. 757 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,680 - Wife and Muse, yeah. 758 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,360 - I think probably on good terms from what I've seen. 759 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:20,520 - I think so, yeah. 760 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,720 Now he has a new muse which people are questioning. 761 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,960 But I think it's just people just love. 762 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,800 - Helen a bottom-carter and like knowns 763 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,200 we're gonna compete with her, she's so unique and like. 764 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,480 - Yeah, the word muse just reminds me of back in the day. 765 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,320 I'm his muse, I'm Cajem. 766 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,320 - I'm Cajem. 767 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,160 - I'm Cajem. 768 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,000 - I'm Cajem. 769 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,160 - You know, I was, yeah. 770 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,800 - I wanna be someone's muse. 771 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,680 - You know, Beetlejuice ultimately was a movie 772 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,320 with a $15 million budget that actually 773 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,560 ended up grossing a $75 million box office. 774 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,400 - Yeah. 775 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,480 - And I wanted to Oscar. 776 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,480 - I did for Best Makeup. 777 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,320 - I realized that. 778 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,320 - For Best Makeup. 779 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,520 - Yeah, the makeup is incredible. 780 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,680 And I mean, it's really good in the sequel as well. 781 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,880 Just again, the practical effects. 782 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,240 Like you can tell that Michael Keaton is just, 783 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,280 there's no CGI on him unless silly things are happening. 784 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,320 - Yeah, but it's like I'm popping out. 785 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,760 It's head spins around, but otherwise he's just 786 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,640 makeup and a wig and looks crazy, so. 787 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,760 - Yeah, and ultimately the first Beetlejuice, 788 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:19,680 there's a TV show. 789 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,240 I don't know if you knew that. 790 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,640 - I never watched it. 791 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,920 - Okay, so it's funny. 792 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,680 I had never seen the Beetlejuice movie as a kid, 793 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,160 but I watched the cart too. 794 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,000 - Okay. 795 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,280 - And that wasn't too scary for me. 796 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,080 - Yeah, 'cause it was Lydia and Beetlejuice like solving. 797 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,760 - They're under a world of crimes. 798 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,920 - And they're buds. 799 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,240 They're kind of more like the same age and they're, 800 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,640 I don't know, like Beetlejuice is a dead man, 801 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,040 but they make them like best friends. 802 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,940 Like she summons Beetlejuice in her bedroom 803 00:26:46,940 --> 00:26:49,480 just to hang out with them and yeah, solve crimes. 804 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,240 And she's cute little Goth girl and she opens her 805 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,000 in boutique at one point, which is like my favorite episode. 806 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,600 And Beetlejuice, it's like, 807 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,280 failing 'cause it's a Goth boutique. 808 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,120 - Yeah. 809 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:01,520 - It's so heat. 810 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,440 Somehow hypnotizes the town folk, 811 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,880 to all go by her and become a girl. 812 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,120 Shop till you shriek at Lydia's boutique. 813 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:10,640 And they all, like zombies, look at their, 814 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,720 it's pretty cute. 815 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,560 - That's amazing. 816 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,400 - Yeah. 817 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,680 - Well, ultimately, you know, 818 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,240 the first Beetlejuice cannot be beat, 819 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,880 but we're here to talk about how the sequel 820 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,160 pairs up to the average. 821 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,000 - Yes. 822 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,120 - I think it pairs very well, 823 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,000 but we will take a little break and then talk about 824 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,040 our thoughts on Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. 825 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,800 (dramatic music) 826 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,000 - So Tim Burton said he wouldn't make a sequel 827 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,120 unless Michael Keaton reprised his role as Beetlejuice 828 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:41,920 and that came true. 829 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,160 When owner Riders started working on stranger things 830 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,120 and she warned the Duffer Brothers, 831 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:48,560 if there's ever a chance to do a sequel to Beetlejuice, 832 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,920 you have to give me the time off for it. 833 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,840 'Cause this movie was teased for years. 834 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,240 There were so many fake posters on Facebook 835 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,640 of fan-made art where everyone would go, 836 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,520 "Oh my God, is it finally happening?" 837 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,600 No, not yet, not yet. 838 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,400 That it almost felt like a joke when it was finally. 839 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,200 - Yes, we were all like, are you serious? 840 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,640 No, no, that's fake. 841 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,080 It's actually a real original sequel 842 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,840 that was supposed to be happening 843 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,720 was Beetlejuice goes to Hawaii. 844 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,560 - No! 845 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,360 - Yes, yes, yes. 846 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:22,960 - It's like Brady Bunch. 847 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:23,800 - Yeah, right. 848 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,960 - Where the Death family decides to open 849 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,600 A Bunch of Properties in Hawaii 850 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,720 and really go colonized like they love to. 851 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,000 - Isn't that the plot of the sequel to "We Can Do It" 852 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,000 "Bernies?" 853 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,160 I think they go to Hawaii. 854 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,400 - I don't know, maybe. 855 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,720 - Like, that's just a sequel. 856 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,480 - They said we know we're being a plotter. 857 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,200 - Yeah, and so ultimately that failed, which thank God. 858 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,440 - Thank God. 859 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,760 - And so I watched a lot of interviews 860 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,840 and a lot of press that these actors were doing. 861 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,600 Both the new cast and the older cast 862 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,800 and their biggest thing was leave it alone. 863 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,160 If you don't have something good, 864 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,280 like we really do not want to reprise this. 865 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,320 And we want to leave it as a standalone 866 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,080 and they had a history of saying that 867 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,800 where we're not going to just make a Beetlejuice 868 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,640 to make up for this. 869 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,480 - Just Beetlejuice. 870 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,520 - We want it to be really, really good. 871 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,360 And once Tim Burton met Jenner Antega, 872 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,960 he really like found that, you know, inspiration. 873 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,960 - She's so perfect. 874 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,080 So he thought he was done with movies, 875 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,680 but he directed four episodes of Wednesday, 876 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,120 which you can see his influence in so much. 877 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,960 - Yeah. 878 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,720 - Especially with that the main monster bad guy. 879 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,560 - Yeah. 880 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,400 - Like is a Tim Burton character. 881 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,240 - Yep. 882 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,360 - But yeah, like you said, he met Jenner Antega, 883 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,040 convinced him to reassess the potential 884 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,760 for the Beetlejuice sequel, 885 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,520 and she ended up playing Lydia's daughter Astrid. 886 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,480 Okay, so we're gonna get into some spoiler territory here. 887 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,000 - So spoilers, pause. 888 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,840 - We will see you after you see it. 889 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,680 - I'm back. 890 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,720 - I'll tell no thanks for joining us. 891 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,560 Okay, bye. 892 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,400 - Yeah, we love you. 893 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,640 - Anyway, spoiler time. 894 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,560 I loved this movie. 895 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,480 - I did as well. 896 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,400 I thought it was really, really well done. 897 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,240 I thought that they did fan fodder, 898 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,400 but not in such a way where it took away from the story. 899 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,240 - Exactly. 900 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,800 - There wasn't so much Easter egg 901 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,440 that the whole time you're like, oh yeah. 902 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,280 - Oh yeah. 903 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,120 - Call back, call back, call back. 904 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:12,960 - Yeah, call back. 905 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,560 - Cause those kind of sequels are just money grabs, 906 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,240 and just there's no story to tell. 907 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,080 - Yep. 908 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,320 - The zoo lander's sequel, right? 909 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,160 - Yes. 910 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,000 - I don't even remember that. 911 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,840 - Exactly. 912 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,680 - Cause they're a fierce watcher. 913 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,520 - Yeah. 914 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,200 - And the anchor man's sequel. 915 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,040 - Yeah. 916 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,600 - There's nothing new to cover. 917 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,440 - Yeah. 918 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,640 - This felt new, like they had the old cast 919 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,800 surprising their roles. 920 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,520 Catherine O'Hara, Michael Keaton, 921 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,240 Winona Ryder is back. 922 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,080 - Mm-hmm. 923 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,280 - The Gina Davis and Alec Baldwin are not back. 924 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,640 - Because Ghost Can't Eat. 925 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,600 - Because Ghost Can Eat, 926 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,560 which is a good point, 927 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,040 but also Alec Baldwin can't get work right now. 928 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:52,880 - Yeah. 929 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,920 - And they had some weird, 930 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,760 - Very insurable at this moment. 931 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,960 - Yeah, really. 932 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,320 - There's too many guns in fall, 933 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,400 to the set of Beetlejuice. 934 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,400 - It's not how they're not. 935 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,240 - No, it's not how they're not. 936 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,160 They did have a weird kind of explanation in this movie 937 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,840 for why they're not haunting the house. 938 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,280 Anymore, and Lydia and a throwaway line goes, 939 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,280 - We found a loophole. 940 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,120 - We found a loophole, 941 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,200 and they rolled a crossover, 942 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,360 and it was just like done. 943 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,200 - I don't know. 944 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,040 - I was like, I wanted a little more 945 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,680 of the like, give this something. 946 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,240 - Give me like some lore, 947 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,880 some building of your universe. 948 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,880 - Because they can just like, 949 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,720 they're the cost of it. 950 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,560 - Yeah. 951 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,280 - Because they did establish in this movie, 952 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,280 like we talked about earlier, 953 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,480 that there are different levels to the afterlife. 954 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,880 So you go to this purgatory waiting room, 955 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,920 and then you get your passport or your ticket stamped, 956 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,280 and then you go on the soul train, 957 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,800 which you're actually up every time. 958 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,640 - Yeah. 959 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,480 - It's literally like, 960 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,960 "I'll vote the soul train to sell this." 961 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,800 - It is. 962 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,280 - Yeah, to the great beyond. 963 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,520 - And you either go to the great beyond, 964 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,760 but then the other one said, 965 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,960 "The Fields of Elysium," 966 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,000 which is what that priest was talking about earlier, 967 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,840 which is funny. 968 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,240 And then, 969 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,720 you would have cracked up at that part. 970 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,720 - There's this like creepy priest in it, 971 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,160 because so basically the reason for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice 972 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,960 is the Deets father dies. 973 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,080 Can you remember his name? 974 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:06,920 It's not that important. 975 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,760 - Charles? 976 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,200 - Yeah, Charles Deets dies. 977 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,040 - Yeah. 978 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,480 - So they're all going back to Barry-Hem 979 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,040 within the Connecticut home, 980 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,640 where everything is happening. 981 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,480 - Yes. 982 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,320 - And so-- 983 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,520 - The actor who played Charles, Jeffrey Jones, 984 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,600 was not invited back for this movie. 985 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,320 - He has some troubles. 986 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,880 - He's got some legal troubles. 987 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,200 - And we'll leave it at that. 988 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,200 - And so they made him die of very gruesome death. 989 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,080 - Where it's like half his body. 990 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,200 - He's essentially headless in die of movie, 991 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,280 but the practical effect is so gruesome. 992 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,320 We're just blood-assorted. 993 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,800 - And he goes to that old, 994 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,880 as every time he talks, like, 995 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,000 "Well, and then the scene that shows how he died 996 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,440 is Clay Nation like stop motion, which was really cute." 997 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,280 - Yeah. 998 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,520 - I do have to say though, Clay Nation gives me 999 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,760 uncanny valley, and it makes me really, 1000 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,680 really, really, really uncomfortable. 1001 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,960 - So you unpack that. 1002 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,840 - No, it's like a human programming thing. 1003 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,480 - Well, uncanny valley, yeah. 1004 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,320 - Yeah. 1005 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,320 - Clay Nation, you see that? 1006 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,040 - Yeah, it's like we evolve to know 1007 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,480 when things don't look that way. 1008 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,440 - I mean, like the polar express movie gets me 1009 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,440 on candy valley. 1010 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,040 - That's mean, they're trying so hard to make them look human. 1011 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,440 - Exactly, but they died and they just can't look. 1012 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,280 - They don't look right. 1013 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,120 - They don't look right. 1014 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,520 - That's why, yeah, exactly. 1015 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,440 - I think Clay Nation, I'm like, 1016 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,040 this is so far removed from reality. 1017 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,120 - We could do a whole episode on why I think 1018 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,280 humans developed the ability to-- 1019 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,800 - Let's do an episode on uncanny valley. 1020 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,120 - Yeah, uncanny valley. 1021 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:28,960 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1022 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,120 (laughing) 1023 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:30,960 Quick, quick, quick. 1024 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,480 (laughing) 1025 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,920 - But, you know, I really, really love this movie. 1026 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,160 Some of the things that I wanted to call back to 1027 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,040 is Lydia's show is called Ghost House. 1028 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:41,880 - Yeah. 1029 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,720 - Which as I said in the beginning was what-- 1030 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,880 - The house of the ghost. 1031 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,440 - Yeah, what the studio wanted to call 1032 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,320 "Beetle Juice" in the beginning. 1033 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,680 So they had some kind of funny, like, 1034 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,520 - Yeah. 1035 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,520 - Call that, it's like, if you know you know the deep history 1036 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,040 of like "Beetle Juice" - That's cute. 1037 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,120 - That you can start to see it. 1038 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,640 - My known as Lydia was amazing in this movie. 1039 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,120 She has like the same nuances as Lydia, 1040 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,400 but she's not as depressed. 1041 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,600 I mean, she's definitely going through 1042 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,000 some "Beetle Juice" PTSD anytime she sees Black and White Stripes. 1043 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,640 She's like, oh God, like, 1044 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,800 and we, it's come to find out he's actually kind of like 1045 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,200 stalking her somehow. 1046 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,600 Like, yeah, this guy's got a heart on her. 1047 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,600 - I'm from the day I, yeah. 1048 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,080 - At least now she's a grown woman. 1049 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:22,920 - Yes. 1050 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,360 - So it's a little more appropriate, 1051 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,360 but the picture is framed at his desk. 1052 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,520 He's definitely of like a teenage girl. 1053 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,760 Just that he's like, - Yeah. 1054 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,600 - And a sweetie. 1055 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,200 - He's like, oh yeah, I love this picture. 1056 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,040 - Yeah. 1057 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,280 - And so there are a lot of new characters that get introduced. 1058 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,440 At the end of the first "Beetle Juice" movie, 1059 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,040 whenever he's about to try to marry Lydia, 1060 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,920 he pulls like a finger out of his pocket, right? 1061 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,720 And there's a bring on it and he goes, 1062 00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:50,120 sorry, it shouldn't mean much to me. 1063 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,080 Don't worry about her. 1064 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:51,920 - I forgot that. 1065 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,920 - And so that finger that he had in his pocket 1066 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,880 ends up being the main villain within this. 1067 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,400 - Yeah, she was the main villain, 1068 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,520 but I don't think she was very necessary 1069 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,600 to the plot. 1070 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,880 - The movie would have been just as good without her, 1071 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,240 but it's Monica Belucci, 1072 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,360 yeah, she plays "Beetle Juice" his ex-wife. 1073 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,640 The scene that describes kind of how "Beetle Juice" 1074 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,880 died and how she died, hilarious. 1075 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,720 - Yeah. 1076 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:18,880 - And he's speaking Spanish for some reason. 1077 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,160 - So we know he started in Spain. 1078 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,400 - Yeah, he speaks Spanish at the end of the movie again too. 1079 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,520 Like, "Beetle Juice" from Spain. 1080 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,520 - All right, I'm gonna let go. 1081 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,040 - He's like kind of described as like a timeless being. 1082 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,840 So like, he still don't really know, 1083 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,400 but it was funny, like the traditional ceremony 1084 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,840 where we ate the chickens off of heads 1085 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,760 and sacrificed the chickens off the heads. 1086 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,760 - Yeah, there you go. 1087 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,280 And the heads off the chickens. 1088 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,440 And sacrificed to go drink each other's blood. 1089 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,320 - But he's like, "Fuck, what I need you this for my wedding?" 1090 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,160 - Yeah. 1091 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,240 - Blue it on the renewals. 1092 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:52,080 - Yes, I would tell you. 1093 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,920 - There you go. 1094 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,320 - It's all gonna be just, 1095 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,520 all the cats got the codes in the air. 1096 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,360 - Oh, I don't know. 1097 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,200 I love goats. 1098 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,040 - They're spoken for. 1099 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,040 - They are just pretend. 1100 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,880 - Okay. 1101 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,720 - Well, you sort of those collapsible knives. 1102 00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:02,560 - Okay, there you go. 1103 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,380 - There you go. 1104 00:36:03,380 --> 00:36:04,220 - Britney. 1105 00:36:04,220 --> 00:36:05,060 - Yeah. 1106 00:36:05,060 --> 00:36:06,360 - It's a fake knife. 1107 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,360 Honey, no, it's not. 1108 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,000 - We got it from Britney's prop store. 1109 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,000 (laughing) 1110 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,560 - House of Spears. 1111 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,800 - I think that Genoa Ortega was delightful in this video. 1112 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,200 She's different enough from Wednesday. 1113 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,400 I mean, she's still kind of the dark moody burrows, 1114 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,240 dead pain. 1115 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:23,080 - Yeah. 1116 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,440 - I felt so bad for her. 1117 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,440 This reminded me of Wednesday a lot. 1118 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,240 - Did you watch Wednesday? 1119 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:28,240 - Yeah. 1120 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:31,800 - So in Wednesday, Wednesday goes on her first date 1121 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,360 and he ends up being evil. 1122 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,200 - Yeah. 1123 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,200 - And then in this one, 1124 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,200 Astrid ends up going on her first date, spoiler, 1125 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,360 he's evil. 1126 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,480 - The dead guy too. 1127 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,320 - Yeah. 1128 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,560 - Yeah, and he's dead and he wants to murder Suede. 1129 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,400 - His family. 1130 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,240 - Yeah. 1131 00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:46,920 - And he wants to, that shook me. 1132 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,760 - Yeah. 1133 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,600 - Because I wasn't expecting. 1134 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,760 - No, it was dark. 1135 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,600 - Yeah. 1136 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,440 - It was good. 1137 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,160 And wants Astrid to come to the Astrid for life 1138 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,960 so that he can steal her soul. 1139 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,800 - Like trade a life. 1140 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,640 - Like trade a life. 1141 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,360 - And go back and be a little shit on Earth again. 1142 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,800 So that leads to Lydia being like, 1143 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,480 oh my God, I can't believe I have to do this, 1144 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,000 but Beatle choose Beatle choose Beatle choose. 1145 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,480 I need his help. 1146 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,320 - Yeah. 1147 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,720 - We also have Justin Thoreau who plays Lydia's 1148 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,160 manager/boyfriend. 1149 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,000 - Boyfriend. 1150 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,400 - He is so greasy and comical. 1151 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,240 - So cool. 1152 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:20,080 - And this movie, 1153 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,080 his little throw-a-line, 1154 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:21,920 where he's like, 1155 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,720 I just was helpfully getting boxes from the store. 1156 00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:25,720 - He's very, 1157 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:27,800 and weaponizing therapy space. 1158 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,640 - Yes. 1159 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,800 - You guys we talk about all the time. 1160 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,480 But he was really like the way that they costume 1161 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,520 to sign to him and like gave him his hair. 1162 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,000 - His slick back hair. 1163 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,640 - His the creepy dude from Charlie's Angels, 1164 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,480 the first one. 1165 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,320 - He was sniffing holes. 1166 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,160 - His hair. 1167 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,000 - His hair. 1168 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:45,840 Like that was the inspo, 1169 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,000 that was all they needed. 1170 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,920 It was exactly like copy-place that guy. 1171 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:49,840 - He was hilarious. 1172 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,200 He was creepy. 1173 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,040 You could tell no one liked him. 1174 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:53,840 I mean, 1175 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,680 - Yeah. 1176 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,520 - Catherine O'Harrot is. 1177 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,520 - So funny. 1178 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,160 - Jenner, 1179 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,160 - Our Tegas character hates it all. 1180 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,160 - They all hate him. 1181 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,640 - And even Lydia's like, 1182 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,120 - Oh, he loves me. 1183 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,120 - He loves me. 1184 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:03,960 - He loves me. 1185 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,960 And I kinda need, 1186 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,800 and I don't know. 1187 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,160 I've been denying love. 1188 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,280 And she got a divorce from Astrid's father who then died, 1189 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,960 which adds a nice layer of Astrid's backstory 1190 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,280 and what she is depressed as she is. 1191 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,120 - Yeah. 1192 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,080 - She gets to reunite with her down the afterlife, 1193 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,160 which is so sad. 1194 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,000 Oh my God, 1195 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,840 he's got a little piranha. 1196 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,360 - Yeah, he's stuck in him. 1197 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,480 - That's a handsome man, no. 1198 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,640 I don't know what that was. 1199 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,480 He was a handsome man. 1200 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,400 - Yeah, he was, yeah, he was very, 1201 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,240 - Yeah. 1202 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:30,240 - Yeah, I really, really liked it. 1203 00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:31,240 When I was a writer, 1204 00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:32,720 I kinda talked about how, 1205 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:35,560 before she had really seen like the full script, 1206 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,200 she'd always kinda seen Lydia as a person 1207 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,720 who would never have a child or never get married 1208 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:42,760 or never fall in love 1209 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,920 and kinda just be stuck with these ghosts. 1210 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,200 So I thought it was kind of like an interesting compromise 1211 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,960 that they came to to have the husband already be dead 1212 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,520 and Lydia, 1213 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,560 as she says in the first 20 minutes of film, 1214 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,240 sell out and become a touch of host, 1215 00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:02,160 medium and kind of betray them. 1216 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,960 And I wish they had really brought that in more to 1217 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,920 as soon as Adam and Barbara disappeared. 1218 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,840 Like she felt like, 1219 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,800 because they really became her parents 1220 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,400 and they were parental figures and her friends. 1221 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,400 Then she's just gone. 1222 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,600 And I wish they had kind of delvened to that part bar. 1223 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,840 - They couldn't have done it in Clayton Nation. 1224 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:20,680 - I would have, yeah. 1225 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:21,520 - They could have been in the business. 1226 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,640 - And this is them after they were gone 1227 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,400 and then I was never close with, 1228 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,240 Delia, her and Delia have gotten closer over the years. 1229 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:29,560 I think they could have shown this movie. 1230 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,960 They have an understanding of each other, 1231 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,640 like a respect, but they're not exactly close. 1232 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,440 - Yeah, she's like, once I sold out in May and about 1233 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,920 and she's like, "You like me?" 1234 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,200 - Yeah, now that I'm loaded, 1235 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,720 you started liking me, that's weird. 1236 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:43,640 Delia is still an artist. 1237 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,520 - Are you in the movies so funny? 1238 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,360 - Yeah. 1239 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,880 - The feudal performance of the whole house. 1240 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:49,720 - Yes. 1241 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:50,560 - The performance. 1242 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,280 - I'm very glad she's hilarious. 1243 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,160 - I really, really liked it. 1244 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,360 I think it's one of those sequels, 1245 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,240 but definitely worth a rewatch. 1246 00:39:58,240 --> 00:39:59,080 - Oh yeah. 1247 00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:59,920 - I walked out of it and was like, 1248 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,000 "Man, I want to see that again." 1249 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,080 Just sort of like pick up the things that, 1250 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,400 you know, I'm just-- - The little minst. 1251 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,720 - Yeah, and normally I'm an avid, 1252 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:10,120 like I do not go see a second movie. 1253 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,560 If I, like I never saw Ingramant too, 1254 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,440 a girl would think it needed it. 1255 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,680 And so normally I'm like an avid, 1256 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,720 I don't go for a stupid sequel, 1257 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,680 but I do really think that this was a great one. 1258 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,600 It was with immense respect to the story 1259 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,360 and ultimately it made it still campy and fun 1260 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,440 and throwbacks to the original movie, 1261 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,360 but not in a way where it really overdid it. 1262 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,200 - I agree. 1263 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,000 I think it was a good addition to the story 1264 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,120 and of the next step of Lydia's life 1265 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,960 and Delia's life and Beetlejuice looks amazing 1266 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,400 and he's so funny. 1267 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,200 In the end, again, we get to see 1268 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,360 Lydia's red wedding dress come back 1269 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,200 because Beetlejuice is still trying to marry her. 1270 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,620 (silence) 1271 00:40:54,620 --> 00:40:58,920 - Shout out to this movie today 1272 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,840 and she's looking like a fucking snack 1273 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,640 and I am hungover and just like at a hat and just like, 1274 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,640 oh god. 1275 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,960 She was like, you look like my femme girlfriend. 1276 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,880 - Yeah, I think we like a lesbian and a couple 1277 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,640 and I'm like the butch one. 1278 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,080 - Yeah, that looks fun. 1279 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:15,920 - That's fun. 1280 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,760 - They're gonna hear for it. 1281 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,720 - You know, I really wanted to bring Belidia 1282 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:24,720 and so far this movie has as of today grossed 264 million 1283 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:30,360 globally, nearly 200 million domestically 1284 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,200 and according to the New York Times, 1285 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,280 there was a time during the film's development 1286 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,880 when the studio tried to push it 1287 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,520 as a max streaming exclusive. 1288 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,120 - This needed to be in theaters. 1289 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,200 - Yeah, come on. 1290 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,800 - Yeah, it's worth it. 1291 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:43,800 - It's worth it. 1292 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,440 - I'm happy that they did it in that way. 1293 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,120 - No, I love going to the movies. 1294 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,920 I got the movies probably once a week. 1295 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:51,760 - Yeah. 1296 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,760 - I just love it. 1297 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,320 - Yeah, I enjoy movie experience. 1298 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,360 I do like the ability to pause and talk and chill 1299 00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,440 and chat. - And chat. 1300 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,280 - Yeah. 1301 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,560 - And, you know, do have my own stacks, 1302 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,120 but if there's a good movie coming out, 1303 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,120 what, you know, it's worth like putting your money 1304 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,520 in art you care about. 1305 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,120 - It's just like Nicole Kidman says, 1306 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:12,840 glowing pictures, 1307 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,240 glimmering pictures on a silver screen. 1308 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,640 - Heartbreak feels good in a place like this. 1309 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,120 (laughing) 1310 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,360 - And, you know, ultimately, you know, 1311 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,000 before we close this episode out, 1312 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,000 do you think we get a third Beetlejuice 1313 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,360 or Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice? 1314 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,960 - I don't think so. 1315 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:32,800 - Really? 1316 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,640 - I don't think so. 1317 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,800 I think it took so long to make this movie. 1318 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,600 Burton had to drop the budget from $147 million 1319 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,520 to $100 million to get the film even greenlit. 1320 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,360 Keaton writer, O'Hara Ann Ortega, 1321 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,560 all had to take pay cuts. 1322 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,560 I mean, they still made a crap ton of money. 1323 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,360 But I think it was just such a long time in the making 1324 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,360 that I'm not sure if they need a third one. 1325 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,800 I mean, there was like some Beetlejuice babies, 1326 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,600 these, which were creepy. 1327 00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,840 - Yeah, that was so scary. 1328 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,200 - But I think it kind of, I think it ran its course. 1329 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,200 That's my opinion. 1330 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,760 I don't, I think if there was a third one at that point, 1331 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,240 it would feel kind of gratuitous. 1332 00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:10,160 - Yeah. - Cash grab. 1333 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,160 - Yeah, I could see it with the main villain 1334 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,160 coming back and really going after Lydia and those people. 1335 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,120 But yeah, it still has to be really, really well done. 1336 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,160 I don't think Catherine or her or any of them 1337 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,360 are gonna come back again. 1338 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,200 I don't think so. 1339 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,440 - I think you would still get Winona 1340 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,840 just because she's like in love with Tim Burton. 1341 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,600 I'm gonna do anything for him. 1342 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,760 - Michael Keaton's not getting it a younger too. 1343 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,000 I mean, I mean, that Beetlejuice, 1344 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,000 you got makeup covers. 1345 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:37,840 - That make up covers it real well. 1346 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,040 - It's all prosthetics, baby. 1347 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,560 So he didn't have that problem. 1348 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:41,400 - Yeah. 1349 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,320 - I mean, the cast is all aging and as other projects. 1350 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,960 So I think this was like a love letter to fans. 1351 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,880 And I think it needs to be a fan. 1352 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,200 - Yeah, and ultimately I think it was 1353 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,240 for each of the actors, a love letter to their characters. 1354 00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:56,400 - Yeah, yeah. 1355 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,040 - They all talk about them with such reverence 1356 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,200 and respect for them. 1357 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,920 And a lot of people have said Tim Burton was 1358 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,680 one of the most influential directors in their careers 1359 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,880 and taught them to speak up for themselves 1360 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,080 and advocate for a character. 1361 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,120 - Yeah, but he got in a block of fame star recently. 1362 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,240 And when one of the writers said, 1363 00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:16,080 you kind of made it feel like it was okay 1364 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,880 to be a weird creepy golf teenager 1365 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,280 because we love me for who I was. 1366 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,320 And yeah, I love that about Tim Burton. 1367 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,360 - Yeah. - Bring out the weirdos 1368 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,360 and all of us. 1369 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,200 - Yes. 1370 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,520 - I wonder what would happen if our listeners 1371 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,200 said our names three times. 1372 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,680 - Puckolder, drink a bottle of a candy. 1373 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,520 - Yeah. 1374 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:34,360 - No. 1375 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,200 - It was an attempt. 1376 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,040 - It was an attempt. 1377 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,720 Well, if you want to summon us, you can try that 1378 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,960 or you can find us on social media, Olivia, 1379 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,040 where can the people find you? 1380 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,960 - 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