1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,840 Told you he is, folks. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,640 It's so time. 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,920 People pay good money to see this movie. 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,560 When they go out to a theater, they 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,080 want to hold so this a hot hot plot in no monsters 7 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:17,400 in the projection booth. 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,240 Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring. 9 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:21,040 Let it off. 10 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,040 [MUSIC PLAYING] 11 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,040 [MUSIC PLAYING] 12 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,040 [MUSIC PLAYING] 13 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,040 [MUSIC PLAYING] 14 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:45,160 In 1978, Lucasville made a huge mistake. 15 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:50,720 They prefer we all forget the Star Wars holidays special. 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,480 Lucasville is still saying Maru's favorite talk about it. 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,480 I know that he has a lot to mention. 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:57,600 No, you don't really know. 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,880 He is so bad. 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,040 It's not good. 21 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,600 You have to see the Star Wars holiday special to believe it. 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,520 The emperor said we can't show the special in this trailer. 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,280 But rest assured, you see all the picture 24 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,680 can handle in the documentary film, 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,080 it disturbance in the force. 26 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,760 The Star Wars holiday special sort of like the Holy Grail 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,480 I wanted to see this more than I wanted to live. 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,760 We're starving, as fans, for anything Star Wars 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,560 is so funny and so stupid at the same time. 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,040 We have seen something that we weren't supposed to see. 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,520 How did this happen? 32 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,480 To find answers, we travel back and experience the insanity 33 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,080 of 1970's variety television. 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:47,560 When 70's TV was paid, they were no description for it. 35 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,760 [MUSIC PLAYING] 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,240 The Star Wars holiday specials in the world 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,120 is George Lucas allowing this to happen. 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,640 You're intergalactic proof. 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,000 Didn't you know about the Star Wars holiday special? 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,400 You don't. 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,760 At the store, these people are fast. 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,040 A story 45 years in the making. 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,040 [MUSIC PLAYING] 44 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,040 [MUSIC PLAYING] 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,280 Hey, folks. 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,400 Welcome to a special episode of The Project Shabu Family 47 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,560 House Mike White. 48 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,480 On this episode, I'm talking to Jeremy Koon 49 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,320 and Steve Kozak all about their new documentary 50 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,440 A Disturbance in the Force. 51 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,760 It's all about the infamous Star Wars holiday special. 52 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,520 Their film just had its premiere itself by Southwest. 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,040 Be sure to visit their website, holiday special, 54 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,840 doc.com to find out where it's playing near you. 55 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,400 Thanks for listening and enjoy this interview. 56 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,920 Steve and Jeremy, thank you so much for joining me today. 57 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:46,280 I'm so excited to talk to you guys 58 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,360 about the disturbance in the Force. 59 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,800 Jeremy, it's been a few years since we've talked. 60 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,680 And I have to ask, when did you actually 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:54,920 start on this project? 62 00:02:54,920 --> 00:02:57,480 Because it seems like it was huge. 63 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,000 The last time we talked, just 2015, we 64 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,440 had the Raiders and the Met Steve in 2019. 65 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,360 And the first things we shot was in June of 2019. 66 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,240 How did you even manage to make the documentary during COVID? 67 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Did you do promote shooting? 68 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,840 Or how was that? 69 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,000 Or did everything just go on pause? 70 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,360 At any large, what on pause? 71 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,200 Steve was brave enough to go to a bunch of interviews 72 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,200 for people that were well-ained. 73 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,240 But a lot of this was just peace meal 74 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,880 where it's like new and energy relations 75 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,200 go to do it now. 76 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,960 Or we tack things on to other shoots. 77 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,800 Let's tack this on and see if we can ask them some questions 78 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:32,520 about it. 79 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,320 So a lot of them, it was that. 80 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,600 But there's no grand plan. 81 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:36,920 It was just as we went along. 82 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,720 We knew what we wanted to get. 83 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,240 There was one or two people that wanted to be interviewed 84 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,800 outside when COVID hit, it was like, 85 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,640 these people had been inside for so long. 86 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,600 They really wanted to talk. 87 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,000 They were so grateful for just company. 88 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,360 Finally, so did I want to talk anyway. 89 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,000 This is not hard to get these people to talk surprisingly. 90 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,360 I think they've seen these older TV guys have just been 91 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:02,720 kind of tossed aside. 92 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,960 But there's amazing stories there. 93 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,880 Steve, what's your history with the Star Wars 94 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,480 Holiday Specialist Well? 95 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,960 I'm the complete opposite of Jeremy. 96 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,200 He comes from film, he's educated, he's technically 97 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,280 knowledgeable. 98 00:04:16,280 --> 00:04:17,760 I come from television. 99 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,640 I work at legal licensing. 100 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,560 It was a producer of who line is it anyway? 101 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,160 I did the green screen bit for longer seasons, 102 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,640 where I just my whole job was just to find weird bizarre 103 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:30,520 footage. 104 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,040 I'd find a lot of before they were famous stuff for the last 20 105 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,760 years in late night back to police shows and world 106 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,280 scary, be as broad as or whatever. 107 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:44,520 These crazy lip shows pretty bad. 108 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:45,760 The clip master. 109 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,400 And now I got all this was actually doing a trade show. 110 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,400 I have a trade association and I was looking for an event to do. 111 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,640 And I was thinking about doing an event around the Star Wars 112 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,720 Holiday Special, a live event. 113 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,560 And then I realized it was maybe more than that. 114 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,520 I was going to ruin. 115 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,360 I'm not being able to really interview these people again. 116 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,480 I'd blow that one opportunity. 117 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,800 And actually, I called Jeremy initially because we have a mutual 118 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,920 friend John Heater. 119 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,760 And he said, oh, call John, because I was thinking of doing a screening. 120 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,360 And I don't think if you remember that, Jeremy, that's what I called 121 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:23,560 you. 122 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,400 Then I mentioned this documentary. 123 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,600 I was trying to push and man. 124 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,240 I mean, there were a couple of people that were interested earlier. 125 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,200 But while Jeremy within a day had a whole map of IDDAs and jumped 126 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,680 all over it. 127 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,200 That really is what pushed us. 128 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,120 Because there were a lot of older people that were starting to the 129 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,320 projector was losing his eyesight. 130 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,760 And there was a lot of people that were starting to get older. 131 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:50,560 I was worried about. 132 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,520 So we were able to get a lot of those interviews down, like pretty quickly. 133 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,800 After you got a board. 134 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,440 Did you see it originally when it aired? 135 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,320 Yeah, I did. 136 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,160 And I guess that identifies the age gap between Jeremy and I. 137 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,400 Jeremy thought, it's like, what did I? 138 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,000 I didn't see it. 139 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,400 So I was there's two thousand two. 140 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,840 So I was twenty, eighty three. 141 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:11,200 I thought aired. 142 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,440 It's very sophisticated to hear that. 143 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,440 But yeah, it's up. 144 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,400 Now, one of the things we have in this is that television back in those days, 145 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,520 which is you had low expectations, the kibbyed up the audiences and the 146 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,120 demographics for these shows, you have to say them out of time of 147 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Han Solo, and you get a Jefferson Starship or Diane Carol, which, 148 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,480 but I was still happy. 149 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,920 I got my five ten minutes of Harrison Ford. 150 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,040 But yeah, I think it was that bad. 151 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,840 I think it's well-explicated. 152 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:47,520 If it makes you feel better Steve, I also saw it when I aired originally. 153 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,760 And you brought a bridge in bed. 154 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,040 Do you like it? 155 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,440 I really liked the animated segment. 156 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,040 That was probably my favorite bit, especially seeing Boba Fett. 157 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,880 And I was just like, oh, who is this guy? 158 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:05,360 And when they advertised sending your proof to purchase and get a figure, I had, I don't 159 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,120 know, why I kept all these backs of the card. 160 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,240 So I had the guy ended up with four bulb of Fets. 161 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,840 So I was just thrilled. 162 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:13,840 Nice. 163 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:19,200 So Jeremy, what did you think of it when you're seeing it in 2000, whenever? 164 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,640 I made it like 25 minutes in. 165 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,000 And I was like, this is terrible. 166 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,560 This is either not real. 167 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,600 My first thing was like, I thought it was a bootleg DVD that my friend had gotten me. 168 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,760 And yeah, I just like, I can't finish this. 169 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,120 And I wasn't convinced that it was real. 170 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,320 All that's what I'm going to maybe put it together somehow. 171 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:39,600 Did you just didn't make sense to me at 23, 2002, why this existed? 172 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,960 We're in a big variety show fan at that time. 173 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,280 I was aware of variety, just not Star Wars being mixed into it. 174 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:52,960 Paul Shire, we did, they were all Shire explained it as being like mixing gasoline with peanut 175 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,240 butters of those luck, chocolate and peanut butters, just two things that were never meant to go together. 176 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:02,320 It feels like you guys might have some stories to tell as far as the behind the scenes of this 177 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:07,920 because there's certain things where like all of the tape interviews, like how did the tape interviews 178 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,640 actual cassette tapes or that's how you represent them anyway, how did those come to be 179 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,640 and how did they get into the documentary? 180 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:20,560 This guy Ross, Steve actually tracked me down, but he did a 20th anniversary article on the holiday 181 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:26,000 special, so in '98, I care what, magazine was for, but he in the process of doing that. 182 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 He filmed facts, don't facts. 183 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,200 So he went through any interview to all these people over the phone and he just said hours and hours 184 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,680 of like the welches was just a gold mine because I don't know when they passed away, but there's 185 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:41,280 no way we're getting anything from them and it was great to hear their voice. 186 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,600 So it just a matter of going through all that and trying to pull stuff out that's useful, but 187 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,280 I think it was probably at a 30, 40 hours of stuff. 188 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,280 Wow, that's amazing. 189 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,840 And it feels like there's something going on there with the director, the original director, 190 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,960 I should say, of the special just the way that his tone changes between the original taped interview 191 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,680 and then the second one that you play, where he just wants nothing to do with it. 192 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:10,560 Well, I guess the difference is that when he started, the one he was mad, he bought he 193 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:12,240 started talking to me. 194 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:18,560 So he was talking to this other guy when he five years ago and had a very good conversation with the guy 195 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:19,920 doing the magazine. 196 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:25,360 He reveals a lot of stuff in that, that's the where he reveals this story where he had tried 197 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:32,640 to pass Robin Williams and there's all these great nuggets in there and his frustrations he was having. 198 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:39,360 Then once I started getting involved, I mean obviously a combat is the best story if you could get 199 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,960 anyone on tape. 200 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:46,560 So I would call him up every now and then and he was, you know, I don't think so. 201 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:47,560 I don't think so. 202 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:52,240 And then like the last one I happened to take and then he just was, I'm done. 203 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,240 This is it. 204 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,760 My name's that on it. 205 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,320 You could go do this and I haven't called him. 206 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,720 So you understand his frustration where he's had a whole career and this is all you want to 207 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:02,720 remember. 208 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:03,720 Right. 209 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,120 The two weeks he spent on this. 210 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,320 And it was three days of shooting. 211 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:13,240 That was nothing that he did and we make shot like almost a whole budget in those three days 212 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,640 just insane. 213 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,960 So how did you approach this? 214 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,480 Did you guys just make this master list of here's all the people that we want to talk to 215 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,280 and start hunting them down or what was your approach to even. 216 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,080 Coming to this material. 217 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:32,200 I'm first started going through the whole cast what I didn't really mention my father used 218 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,000 to produce those Bob Hope specials. 219 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:39,000 And it's like one of the initial things that made me think about doing this because I thought 220 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,160 it's such a great story. 221 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:45,680 There's so many Star Wars docs but I've never heard anything on the most fascinating portion 222 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:48,240 of it which I think is this special. 223 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,960 And I started looking at the IMVB list. 224 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,400 And I started noticing, oh my gosh, this person's practically like what are the camera 225 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,600 and it's practically related to me. 226 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,600 It's such a small world. 227 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,200 I grew up with a lot of these camera command and directors and so forth because they did the Bob 228 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,200 Hope specials. 229 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,880 And then they went and did Donnie Marie and then they did their independence stuff that worked 230 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,360 that Hemian would ever in. 231 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,960 So it was a very small world. 232 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,720 So I went after those guys and just tried to get as much lined up. 233 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:23,240 And then when Jeremy came on board, he didn't really have a question a lot of the ideas I had. 234 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,160 And then he finished it and started. 235 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,160 He definitely is the one who wanted to have the comedians. 236 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:34,600 And I think that's the biggest response we've got is people just raving a setth 237 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,640 green and tearing kill and it. 238 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,920 We had to get like our meet of the meal with the people who actually worked on it. 239 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,960 So he wanted like first person accounts and like Steve said a lot of him could pass away 240 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:44,960 at any moment. 241 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,480 We wanted to get a bunch of those and then once we had a cut it was kind of like a, all right, 242 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,280 let's go talk to these celebrities and get some comedy in there. 243 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:56,080 We wanted to be like once it's like taught like it was Seth Green or Kevin Smith like watching 244 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,200 this and the goes the best people because they're connected to Star Wars. 245 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,080 They're hugely knowledgeable and their famous and they're great on camera. 246 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,960 So like all those people who used to basically cut them loose and let them go wherever they 247 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:07,960 wanted. 248 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,960 Because initially I was like, looks like a such a jerk. 249 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,840 Why does he make such a big deal out of this? 250 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,360 And through the whole process of this, I kind of have more empathy for him. 251 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,600 Or I'm like, I can understand his position. 252 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,400 I don't know what I would do if I would probably do something similar for me. 253 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:28,800 Yeah, I remember back in 1997 when that definitive box set of the discs came out, the 254 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,360 laser discs came out and I thought for sure that the Star Wars holiday special was going 255 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:39,680 to be on that for whenever reason and when it didn't, that was so angry about that for 256 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:41,200 no good reason. 257 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:47,200 Look at said in like 87 that he expected it to come out on something in some form. 258 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,200 So that's never happened. 259 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:53,920 I love the mixture that you do have more contemporary people with the older people, the original 260 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,440 the OG, the folks that are actually working on it. 261 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:05,200 Plus Steve, I've tried to interview with Donnie Asman was fantastic in hearing his reminiscences 262 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,640 of working on that, that Donnie Marisha with all the Star Wars characters was fantastic. 263 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,480 A lot of it is just coincidence. 264 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:20,840 The fact that Doddy Asman was a relevant part of this story only came after I started working 265 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:21,840 on it. 266 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,640 I actually know Donnie Asman very well. 267 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,640 I've helped represent his library. 268 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:33,200 I remember it was a producer on his, his Vegas show with all the over 500 clips and videos 269 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,840 and licensed that for him. 270 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,760 The coincidence that he was this had a major part in this down the road. 271 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,120 It was just mind blowing. 272 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:48,720 He's so self deprecating and he's such a nice guy and he just opened up and we had a really 273 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,200 cut down on his interview. 274 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,520 He had a lot to say. 275 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,520 There were a lot of great little nuggets in there that we just didn't have time for. 276 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,560 But yeah, he definitely was a highlight. 277 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:01,520 The coincidence that we have the Bob Hulp stuff too. 278 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,960 I wasn't raised with a lot of celebrities. 279 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:10,280 I did represent Bob Hulp, but I knew so few celebrities when it was all done. 280 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,400 My life was done when my dad baths away. 281 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:18,400 It's just bizarre coincidence that I happen to know a few of these. 282 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,280 In the Bob Hulp thing helped because we didn't touted as exclusive. 283 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,880 But that is not available on YouTube. 284 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,600 The song and dance bit. 285 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:27,600 No. 286 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,040 I think that's funnier than the parody that they did. 287 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,240 Yeah, that was the first time I had ever seen it. 288 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,480 The one thing that you said that had to cut out a lot because it feels like this documentary 289 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:43,080 could easily be five hours just going through each scene and each character and each one 290 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,040 of those times that we've got. 291 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:51,040 Beerther or when her requirement comes on, I'm surprised that it doesn't go through every 292 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:57,520 single beat of the special because it's such a rich vein of bizarre material. 293 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,520 We want people to enjoy the film. 294 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,240 Have you ever want to make her own holiday special? 295 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,960 We've tried to walk this fine line of hardcore star warspan and people who don't have nothing. 296 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,560 I'm sure there's some people who are hard-core. 297 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,280 They're coming to this like, I already knew that. 298 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,280 And I knew this. 299 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,440 The thing that we did is basically try to get our arms around everything that we thought we could 300 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,280 find and try to pack as much of it. 301 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,960 We could have been like, it's like, it's like, it's like 86 minutes. 302 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,720 But initially, we're going through and being like, all right, we're just going to be 303 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,680 seen by seeing, but that seems not very engaging. 304 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:29,440 But once we got it into the variety stuff, we're like, oh, this is going to blow some people. 305 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,760 Like, I do variety of notches agree with the Wayne Newton at sea world. 306 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,880 The Lawrence Wellb clip that we have in there with the dancing that landed a thousand 307 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,760 dances is probably my favorite because first time Steve showed it. 308 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,160 I thought it was Sarah and I live skit with Wolf Arrow. 309 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,160 I was just like, why are you showing me this? 310 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,200 And then I look closely and I was like, oh, that's some better air gun TV for real without 311 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,840 been being ironic. 312 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,080 Yeah, we used to get to see that every Sunday night. 313 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,080 Yeah. 314 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,080 Yeah. 315 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,080 Yeah. 316 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:04,800 As old as we are Mike, you and I didn't watch that show admit, no, that's true. 317 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:05,800 That's true. 318 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,840 If I saw it on, I'd change the channel. 319 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:08,840 Yeah. 320 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,440 And this is our yes. 321 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,080 Yeah, grandparents stuff. 322 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:18,200 I love to that you take so many different turns in this film. 323 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:23,840 And one of those areas that you concentrate on is just the idea of the marketing and just what 324 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:31,360 a wild west show was when it came to movie marketing back in 7778 and just all those different 325 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:37,720 things that were tried in order to get people to sea star wars and remember star wars. 326 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:44,640 And I just love that whole section of here's what the attempts were just going to the Star Trek 327 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,680 conventions and basically try to steal the fans away. That was wonderful. 328 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,680 I will actually say that Charlie Lippencott, I mean, he was really hard when I first reached 329 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,680 out to him. 330 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,840 He was very, a little personality of noxious with me. 331 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:05,720 He was only responding to me in Facebook posts really weird just to everyone on his channel. 332 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,120 He just would respond to me. 333 00:17:08,120 --> 00:17:16,160 But sooner or later, I understood completely his resentment and he was really a through line that 334 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:21,160 we use to take you through the Donnie and Marie show. 335 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:28,840 The Warner Brothers big meeting that's a real big reveal that showed despite that Lucas had 336 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,000 about it. 337 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,240 And he takes his right into the special. 338 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,320 It's a great through line. 339 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,960 It's heartbreaking because he could write a whole book just on Charlie Lippencott. 340 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:44,200 This guy was amazing when he came up with and these original ideas that are now or just 341 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,840 commonplace. 342 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,720 What we're doing right now is basically Lippencott 101. 343 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,000 This says what he was, this is what he was going to preaching. 344 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:59,440 And Jeremy, I'm so curious as far as how much of the story of this new new that know your 345 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,640 fan, not having seen the special were you aware of all of the stuff that had been going 346 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,920 on behind the scenes of the Star Wars Empire at that time. 347 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,360 Seeing articles and bits and pieces and stuff from there, I felt there's a resurgence of 348 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:16,040 this around like 2010. 349 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,640 It seemed to be pretty if you were to Star Wars, you at least had heard of the holiday. 350 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,760 Like when I saw 2002, I didn't hear anything about it. 351 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:29,400 But as people were making like reference to it, the joke was it so bad, the articles 352 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,400 periodically. 353 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:35,840 So before we started, I had done it, but I didn't, I also felt there was conflicting, there's 354 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,880 room of the words about what had happened that we kind of dug into and realized that didn't 355 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:39,880 happen. 356 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,080 One of the ones that I would have liked to dig into it more, but maybe get some more interviews 357 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,720 is actually don't think George Lugus ever said he was going to smash every copy of it. 358 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:49,960 Yeah, I actually don't. 359 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:57,380 There's no attributes of him at a comic con in Australia, but he's never been to a comic 360 00:18:57,380 --> 00:18:59,620 con in Australia. 361 00:18:59,620 --> 00:19:03,380 And there's never, there's never a reference for it. 362 00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:06,860 I think he's been a tribute to him through someone else, but that's one of the things I'm 363 00:19:06,860 --> 00:19:10,580 just like, he gets a bad rap for stuff that he didn't do. 364 00:19:10,580 --> 00:19:16,500 I know one thing I've been guilty of in the past was repeating that rumor about Mark Hamill 365 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:22,260 in the whole Wampa attack and that's why he was an accident and blah blah blah. 366 00:19:22,260 --> 00:19:24,140 I'm so glad that you guys cleared that up. 367 00:19:24,140 --> 00:19:29,780 And just sources again, just coming at this one little bit of trivia that you complete the 368 00:19:29,780 --> 00:19:33,420 settled that, which I am very thankful for. 369 00:19:33,420 --> 00:19:35,380 And hopefully Mark said that thankful as well. 370 00:19:35,380 --> 00:19:36,380 Well, really cruel. 371 00:19:36,380 --> 00:19:41,540 We found, I don't want to say what is, but someone said, someone made a, was asking him about 372 00:19:41,540 --> 00:19:43,900 his mascara that he was wearing. 373 00:19:43,900 --> 00:19:47,020 And he was really embarrassed about that whole thing. 374 00:19:47,020 --> 00:19:52,500 And so it was nice when I think was Bonnie Burton that is the one who came up with a 375 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:58,460 perfect, the way she described it was so perfectly when she just said, this has been produced 376 00:19:58,460 --> 00:20:00,820 by Tony and Emmy people. 377 00:20:00,820 --> 00:20:07,980 Of course, this is their lot, and of course, they make everything larger than the so sense. 378 00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:09,500 That means more sense than anything. 379 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:10,500 Yeah. 380 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:15,260 I also think that echoing Jeremy's feeling about that comment. 381 00:20:15,260 --> 00:20:18,100 And I'm not participating on you because I would say the same thing. 382 00:20:18,100 --> 00:20:22,460 Very well, it could have even been in one of our first write ups that line about the 383 00:20:22,460 --> 00:20:24,940 wanting to break everything. 384 00:20:24,940 --> 00:20:28,540 It does kind of show like there's, it's just so amazing Jeremy. 385 00:20:28,540 --> 00:20:35,420 Like when you think about how many times we heard the thing being referenced with that phrase, 386 00:20:35,420 --> 00:20:37,020 it's just ridiculous. 387 00:20:37,020 --> 00:20:42,180 It's, it's almost like it's like a subtitle for the special. 388 00:20:42,180 --> 00:20:46,980 It's so common if people just keep spouting it like it's, and again, we did it too. 389 00:20:46,980 --> 00:20:49,060 So, you know, nothing on you, Mike. 390 00:20:49,060 --> 00:20:55,500 So I don't imagine that the original cast was just out there wanting to talk with you. 391 00:20:55,500 --> 00:21:02,060 You show, you kind of start off the documentary with that amazing clip of Harrison Ford 392 00:21:02,060 --> 00:21:03,540 on Conan O'Brien. 393 00:21:03,540 --> 00:21:04,940 I love that. 394 00:21:04,940 --> 00:21:07,500 Who wouldn't participate for this? 395 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:09,740 I don't really get on after any of them hardcore. 396 00:21:09,740 --> 00:21:12,140 Ever from the maybe as a last phase. 397 00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:16,580 Basically make the film, get people into it and maybe you're hard for a press after this. 398 00:21:16,580 --> 00:21:21,820 But we're holding out hope that we'd love to have more camel or you know, people like that. 399 00:21:21,820 --> 00:21:23,620 Like I, maybe one of the really interesting to pick. 400 00:21:23,620 --> 00:21:28,700 I feel like he references a lot in his tweets and he has a sense of humor about it. 401 00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:32,100 Obviously like Harrison Ford, Lucas, we would always sit down. 402 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:34,340 But I don't see that happening. 403 00:21:34,340 --> 00:21:38,380 But maybe you ever know, but yeah, I would be. 404 00:21:38,380 --> 00:21:43,140 I was so glad to hear all of those original voices to have Kiryu Fisher and take 405 00:21:43,140 --> 00:21:48,580 here what her opinions were on this just to go back to where you're time up before. 406 00:21:48,580 --> 00:21:50,860 See the clips are amazing. 407 00:21:50,860 --> 00:21:55,700 And stuff I had never seen before stuff like the Harvey Corman interview, the Arthur and 408 00:21:55,700 --> 00:22:01,180 her view and just getting these people actually to having the availability of those clips of 409 00:22:01,180 --> 00:22:05,500 those interviews just to hear those original voices was terrific. 410 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:09,260 We definitely did try to make up for the fact that we weren't going to get. 411 00:22:09,260 --> 00:22:13,500 We probably knew the January fishery pass away. 412 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:17,260 And sometimes I think like maybe she might have been the best interview if we could have had 413 00:22:17,260 --> 00:22:22,580 anyone because she just had such a great funny attitude about the whole thing. 414 00:22:22,580 --> 00:22:26,220 We did, I did, we did, we were just about finishing. 415 00:22:26,220 --> 00:22:30,780 We still had a couple interviews before we finished for South by Southwest. 416 00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:36,060 For that cut in his Jeremy saying there is some room for maybe a couple more inserts. 417 00:22:36,060 --> 00:22:41,860 One of which is we in I spoke on a phone to with Carrie to Fisher's brother who was very 418 00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:42,660 interesting. 419 00:22:42,660 --> 00:22:48,380 He bit on the set and he had this really great attitude about her singing. 420 00:22:48,380 --> 00:22:50,460 She said he said you know what? 421 00:22:50,460 --> 00:22:51,460 She was fine. 422 00:22:51,460 --> 00:22:55,700 She sang great people who trash her singing ridiculous. 423 00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:57,420 She doesn't sing badly. 424 00:22:57,420 --> 00:22:59,340 She's just not Barbara Streisand. 425 00:22:59,340 --> 00:23:00,340 That's all. 426 00:23:00,340 --> 00:23:07,100 He said being the son of Eddie Fisher and Debbie Reynolds, he said everyone doesn't have to 427 00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:08,580 be Eddie Fisher. 428 00:23:08,580 --> 00:23:15,060 They're the consing a song and it's okay and it doesn't change your life and he's one 429 00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:16,060 of those interviews. 430 00:23:16,060 --> 00:23:19,940 I mean I really felt her spirit through his discussion. 431 00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:24,460 So maybe you might squeeze a line into it and if we cut it again. 432 00:23:24,460 --> 00:23:26,180 How many kinds have there been here in me? 433 00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:27,180 I have no idea. 434 00:23:27,180 --> 00:23:28,180 I have no idea. 435 00:23:28,180 --> 00:23:29,580 I have to watch the film five at our time. 436 00:23:29,580 --> 00:23:34,860 I've been initially I was like we're going to hire an editor because I started as an editor 437 00:23:34,860 --> 00:23:39,100 on the polling dynamite and I did one of the film and then I had retired or I'm like oh, 438 00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:40,100 editing's too hard. 439 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:41,580 I'm going to go be producer. 440 00:23:41,580 --> 00:23:43,100 It's more fun. 441 00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:48,420 Then I just came to my audience to do a bunch of things that I need to step up into. 442 00:23:48,420 --> 00:23:52,940 So I started probably maybe last year or maybe last year. 443 00:23:52,940 --> 00:23:54,420 This was just like a beast coming into. 444 00:23:54,420 --> 00:23:59,140 So you have to just take a piece by piece and just keep layering it in and then it just 445 00:23:59,140 --> 00:24:03,260 you found a groove with people watching to get in feedback. 446 00:24:03,260 --> 00:24:07,180 But there's been I basically to count every day I usually watch it. 447 00:24:07,180 --> 00:24:09,180 So I edit and that's my process. 448 00:24:09,180 --> 00:24:13,540 I usually edit it, watch it in the day and I do that day after day. 449 00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:14,540 Wow. 450 00:24:14,540 --> 00:24:16,540 It's like a surface. 451 00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:17,540 Yeah. 452 00:24:17,540 --> 00:24:19,100 Which I love more fun than that. 453 00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:21,100 It's some variety stuff. 454 00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:23,100 It was amusing. 455 00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:28,100 Yeah, it's just I feel like every film in front of mind is trying to best for like eating an elephant 456 00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:29,780 and like it's daunting to look at it. 457 00:24:29,780 --> 00:24:34,980 But you just basically to start a bit by bit and eventually get enough momentum where it 458 00:24:34,980 --> 00:24:36,460 carries you to the end. 459 00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:42,700 I'd love the thing that you're doing with the titles for people and using the graphics from 460 00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:46,140 the old Star Wars training cards that was a really super clever. 461 00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:52,780 That's a damn diddy who's my companies are a graphics guy and like a post production supervisor. 462 00:24:52,780 --> 00:24:56,620 So he did all the graphics for this because we had no money and he did an awesome job. 463 00:24:56,620 --> 00:25:00,100 But yeah, he I was like, I want something that feels Star Wars and 70s. 464 00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:01,860 He said, oh, I could do this. 465 00:25:01,860 --> 00:25:03,500 And yeah, I love that too. 466 00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:05,260 He just has a nice texture to it. 467 00:25:05,260 --> 00:25:12,060 I had a little bit that great was the was the showing of the staff coming and going to 468 00:25:12,060 --> 00:25:20,260 work with that too because this cast and crew, this crew just completely just moves around 469 00:25:20,260 --> 00:25:21,260 like amazing. 470 00:25:21,260 --> 00:25:25,940 And to be able to see the references, I think, do it entertaining. 471 00:25:25,940 --> 00:25:28,900 And I thought that they probably helps people follow it along. 472 00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:30,500 I didn't have a question about that. 473 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:35,700 You keep showing the collector's card for Pat Proft, but he's not in the documentary was 474 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:38,580 he not willing to go in front of the camera. 475 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:41,020 His memory is not great. 476 00:25:41,020 --> 00:25:45,380 And the one story that he had, I did speak to him on the phone. 477 00:25:45,380 --> 00:25:47,380 He just had just been around. 478 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:52,860 And it's like, he told the story about his, he bringing his son to the set and that he came 479 00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:54,780 to the set whenever he was passing out. 480 00:25:54,780 --> 00:26:00,340 And all of his heroes are being dragged out of the studio and being treated by EMTs. 481 00:26:00,340 --> 00:26:02,980 He was, he was three sentences. 482 00:26:02,980 --> 00:26:07,460 He's very talented guy, but he just doesn't remember much from the special. 483 00:26:07,460 --> 00:26:09,460 He's also in Minnesota. 484 00:26:09,460 --> 00:26:14,940 That was hard to justify a trip up to there just for the one interview given a bunch of 485 00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:15,940 we had. 486 00:26:15,940 --> 00:26:21,420 Mr. Land, the guy from the other special, the other guy who lived right like five minutes 487 00:26:21,420 --> 00:26:25,220 from him was the guy who is in the tunnel. 488 00:26:25,220 --> 00:26:27,220 The mailers and it lived mainly. 489 00:26:27,220 --> 00:26:28,620 Yes, sick. 490 00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:29,620 That we know this name. 491 00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:31,860 He lived five minutes away, but he passed away. 492 00:26:31,860 --> 00:26:37,420 So then, yeah, became just choosing our battles, which would we could afford to interview. 493 00:26:37,420 --> 00:26:42,300 And the ladies and Bruce Valange are amazing interviews. 494 00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:47,100 There's two guys were just, they remembered so much stuff. 495 00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:48,100 And that was a mirror. 496 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:50,340 Yeah, I mean, Bruce is such a raccoon tour. 497 00:26:50,340 --> 00:26:53,940 And then at Lenny, I had never heard him talk about it before. 498 00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:56,220 It was great to hear his stories. 499 00:26:56,220 --> 00:26:57,580 Especially Lenny's like a lovely Parsley. 500 00:26:57,580 --> 00:26:58,780 I had spent like all day with them. 501 00:26:58,780 --> 00:27:00,700 He was just the nicest guy. 502 00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:02,780 Is self-biased with this premiere? 503 00:27:02,780 --> 00:27:05,220 The first time you're actually seeing it with an audience? 504 00:27:05,220 --> 00:27:08,980 Or a lot premiere and first time with, yeah, it's actually the first time you're seeing 505 00:27:08,980 --> 00:27:12,780 with the audience because all the feedbacks have been just sending links to people. 506 00:27:12,780 --> 00:27:16,900 So I've never seen this with more than actually, I don't know if I've seen it with any more 507 00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:20,780 than my wife to be honest. 508 00:27:20,780 --> 00:27:22,540 She must be so sick of it by now. 509 00:27:22,540 --> 00:27:24,260 She's like, "Watch the ones." 510 00:27:24,260 --> 00:27:27,820 She was like, "What's the guy in the South by Southwest?" 511 00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:29,220 She's like, "You want to watch this? 512 00:27:29,220 --> 00:27:30,540 I don't know if it's for you." 513 00:27:30,540 --> 00:27:31,540 And she enjoyed it. 514 00:27:31,540 --> 00:27:34,460 She's not the bigger star or was the fan, but she liked it. 515 00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:35,980 Or they still, she liked it. 516 00:27:35,980 --> 00:27:39,820 And hopefully that's an audience that we can get with this. 517 00:27:39,820 --> 00:27:44,740 I think the Star Wars fans, if they know where it is, they see it there, they'll watch it 518 00:27:44,740 --> 00:27:45,740 out of curiosity. 519 00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:51,580 I think the real victory would be to get non-Star Wars fans to being treated by the general 520 00:27:51,580 --> 00:27:52,580 story. 521 00:27:52,580 --> 00:27:55,300 It's crossing over in a way that I didn't expect. 522 00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:58,420 I have someone I want to own, I want to bear some. 523 00:27:58,420 --> 00:28:03,500 But he loved the movie and literally in my mind, these older, not Star Wars fan, Hayden Star 524 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:04,980 Wars. 525 00:28:04,980 --> 00:28:09,340 He loved the movie and in my mind, I was at he and I was like, "Well, this guy will not 526 00:28:09,340 --> 00:28:10,340 like this movie." 527 00:28:10,340 --> 00:28:13,340 So the fact we won him over as a huge go-ah. 528 00:28:13,340 --> 00:28:15,740 So, that's fantastic. 529 00:28:15,740 --> 00:28:18,260 What's after South by Southwest, you guys know? 530 00:28:18,260 --> 00:28:19,260 Oh, for distribution deals. 531 00:28:19,260 --> 00:28:21,980 We're doing say on those out of South by Southwest. 532 00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:25,980 I think the film's going to pretty healthy film festival live. 533 00:28:25,980 --> 00:28:29,980 So if some of those can't announce them, you know, they're the worst. 534 00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:32,820 We'll see what comes our way from the coming months. 535 00:28:32,820 --> 00:28:36,900 Ideally, I think this film should come out to the holidays, life day later this year. 536 00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:38,900 We have some run way until we get there. 537 00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:42,220 But whatever distributor wants to do, we're out for. 538 00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:43,220 It's fantastic. 539 00:28:43,220 --> 00:28:44,980 What are you working on now, Jeremy? 540 00:28:44,980 --> 00:28:48,820 My company September Club, we focus on documentaries. 541 00:28:48,820 --> 00:28:51,740 We have a documentary feature on the comedian Gallagher. 542 00:28:51,740 --> 00:28:52,740 Oh, what? 543 00:28:52,740 --> 00:28:57,900 We're open to finish, which the director on that's been followed him for four years. 544 00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:02,340 It's another weird crazy, just interesting. 545 00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:03,820 It knows much about him as a pilot. 546 00:29:03,820 --> 00:29:05,820 As I've now found out. 547 00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:10,660 Now, the next part of the Hollywood special Gallagher, like all these things. 548 00:29:10,660 --> 00:29:14,940 But about other projects going on, but that's the one that's probably going to come out next. 549 00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:15,940 And how about you Steve? 550 00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:17,180 What are you working on now? 551 00:29:17,180 --> 00:29:23,100 I'd have yet to jettison myself into the full-time film making like Jeremy. 552 00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:24,700 That would be amazing. 553 00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:31,540 I work full-time for Jimmy Kimmel Live as a film researcher, Clarence Purston, Licensing. 554 00:29:31,540 --> 00:29:35,900 But why did sell a book to applause books about the same subject? 555 00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:38,420 Still on the second draft of that. 556 00:29:38,420 --> 00:29:40,820 And that'll come out around life day. 557 00:29:40,820 --> 00:29:41,820 Fantastic. 558 00:29:41,820 --> 00:29:46,580 I'm hoping there's going to be a physical release of this movie with a lot of extras on it as well. 559 00:29:46,580 --> 00:29:47,580 Pingers crossed. 560 00:29:47,580 --> 00:29:48,580 Yeah. 561 00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:52,780 We hope so, so people still buy DVDs from Proppers in Apocalypse, Stight People. 562 00:29:52,780 --> 00:29:56,380 They want to make sure they have their physical media on the world and go south. 563 00:29:56,380 --> 00:30:00,020 So where's the best place for people to keep up on the movie and it's festival run? 564 00:30:00,020 --> 00:30:03,820 So I mean, other socials around Facebook and Twitter. 565 00:30:03,820 --> 00:30:07,780 But the easiest is probably a holiday special.com. 566 00:30:07,780 --> 00:30:12,140 So DOC, that's our website, we'll update as things happen. 567 00:30:12,140 --> 00:30:16,500 And they're actually selling advanced tickets to the two of our shows at South Nice, Southwest 568 00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:17,500 Children. 569 00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:18,900 He was an Austin, so our Tuesday, Wednesday, Screens. 570 00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:20,780 You can buy tickets for $25. 571 00:30:20,780 --> 00:30:22,340 And they'll think, "Surrah on the site." 572 00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:26,780 So you don't buy the $1,000 badge, you can get tickets and just see our film. 573 00:30:26,780 --> 00:30:29,140 Jeremy, Steve, thank you so much for your time, guys. 574 00:30:29,140 --> 00:30:30,620 This was fantastic. 575 00:30:30,620 --> 00:30:31,620 Thanks, please. 576 00:30:31,620 --> 00:30:32,620 Thank you. 577 00:30:32,620 --> 00:30:33,900 Yeah, thanks for having us. 578 00:30:33,900 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