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♪ What on a head of vision ♪

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♪ What is life be like? ♪

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What's up everybody?

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It's Friday.

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We're happy you're here.

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Really happy you're here.

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Thank you for listening all these years.

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Yes.

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Listen to our best dogs, our old school episodes.

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They're pretty damn funny.

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Yeah.

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We went pretty far back a bunch of the most recent ones.

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Well, the "Objected and Plain Site" is from 2019,

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but that's six years ago.

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And then a bunch of them are from seven years ago.

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No.

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Eight years ago.

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You have the one where I talked to the dad

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about the Christmas?

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Yes, I think that one is this Thursday,

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'cause I moved that one back a week

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so that I could put,

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'cause I had found the "Objected and Plain Site."

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Well, Randy May has helped us find it.

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Thank you, Randy.

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I want to play that episode for Natalia.

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Oh my God, it's really funny.

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'Cause I told them the story many times,

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but I think they'll get a kick out of it.

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Oh, yeah, especially now.

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She's still friends with that girl.

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She is?

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Yeah, the girl who's dad hates me.

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They talk.

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Oh my God.

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Yeah, they grew up together.

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Went to school together.

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That's so funny.

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All the way through high school.

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It's amazing when our kids, you know,

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I mean, my kids have had such a different experience

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than my childhood, you know,

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I moved so many times as a kid.

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And my kids have never moved.

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They were born and raised in their house

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in their neighborhood.

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Your kids have pretty much, like,

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since second grade.

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Yeah, but they are in LA.

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So even friends that they knew from earlier than that,

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they could still be in touch with you.

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But it is amazing for them to have friends that they've had,

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well, since they didn't zander not as much as Elby,

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because with Elby, I became friends with those parents.

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And I'm still friends with those parents.

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So yeah, it's nice.

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Yeah, they have friends that they grew up with

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and they're still friends with to this day.

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They keep in touch.

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It was little Buddhist birthday.

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The KM East birthday, a couple days ago.

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Natalia, you know, called and wished her happy birthday.

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She moved away, but she's great.

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So cute.

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Oh, you know what I meant?

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You know, on Tuesday's episode,

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and maybe people have figured this out by now,

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but I was promoting the drunkish episode.

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And I promoted that Meredith was on Wednesday,

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but you know who's on the Tuesday episode?

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Lisa Lampanelli.

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Oh my gosh, really?

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I love her.

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I know.

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She was, remember how much fun we had with her?

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All we did.

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So she went to rehab for food addiction.

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So we talked about that.

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Yeah, she's not sober, but I don't think she drinks.

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But she for food and she is, she's just, she's just funny.

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I love that about her.

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She was always so nice to me.

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Yeah, even though she was the queen of mean.

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She was like ruthless rooster of the year.

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A lot of them are like that Jeff Ross is the sweetest guy, so sweet.

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And he's the roast master.

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And he can't take it though.

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I mean, he, if you, like they've played pranks on him and he like almost wants to cry.

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You know, there was that dancing with the stars.

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I was saying, they tell you, I've told you that one.

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I sort of remember it remind me.

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I'll just, it's a funny story.

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So they, he was on dancing with the stars.

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And what happens is is whoever gets kicked off that day will end up on Jimmy Kimmel live.

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So Kimmel show knows early on who's going to get kicked off, but the, but like Adam knew

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he was going to get kicked off that time.

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They told him.

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But Jeff Ross, so Sal and Jeff Ross prank each other and play jokes on each other all

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the time.

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So Sal was working at Kimmel.

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He knew that Jeff was going to be kicked off, but he told Jeff you're safe.

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You're going to be fine.

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So that night when he got up there and he was in the bottom two or whatever, you can see

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him like whispering to his dancer going, it's, it's, I know that we're okay.

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I know we're okay.

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And they kicked them off.

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Oh, that is a mean prank.

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That's definitely beyond prank.

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That's just cruel.

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I know.

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He didn't talk to Sal for like a year.

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And then Tom Cruise showed up at Jimmy's house for football one year and like brought them

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together and tab them like makeup because they didn't, he didn't speak to Sal for like

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a year.

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And Tom Cruise knew they were having a fight.

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And Jimmy was like, okay, when you come, I'm going to tell you what happened.

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He's like, I want you to be like the, you know, the mediator and all the guys are like

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surrounded.

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And he's like, so he went and talked to both of them in front of everybody.

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And then they made up.

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That's stupid story.

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That's so funny.

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You know, you just reminded me of even though it's too late for anybody to watch it, but my

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friend, Bonnie McFarlane is on the tonight show tonight.

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Oh, she is.

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But this is today's Monday.

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So you guys missed it.

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But you could go, yeah, you can go on YouTube, go on YouTube and check out Bonnie McFarlane.

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Yeah, she was just on the tonight show, Jimmy Fallon.

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He's really talented.

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I like to watch it.

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Good for her.

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Well, I have, we have so much to get to in this episode.

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Like, I feel like on the one hand, we might be done talking about Amy Bradley, but then

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on the other hand, I came across this article, I like, I like to hear this shit.

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So I pretty much have decided that she went overboard.

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She's not sex trafficked.

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I maintain that.

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And then I found this a little confirmation bias.

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I found this article by, it's not Jeremy Renner.

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I think is not that is not an actor.

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Well, it's named Renner.

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Well, he's a like a journalist.

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He's a like a journalist.

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He's a like a journalist.

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I only printed out, I didn't print out like the, the head whatever.

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I think this is from Daily Mail.

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Here we go.

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In 30 years after 23 year old Amy Bradley vanished from a Caribbean cruise, a small but overlooked

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detail may hold the key to her disappearance and expert claims.

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Amy vanished in the early morning hours of March 21st, 1998.

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We know.

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We know.

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We know.

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Oh, author James Renner, who has spent years researching her unexplained disappearance

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believes there may be an overlooked explanation.

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Mm-hm.

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This is good.

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The true crime addict author even when as far as suggesting the three part Netflix series

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released on July 16th omitted important details about the missing woman quote, in the

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facts of the case, there's a small detail that doesn't seem to mean anything, but it

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might mean everything.

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Don't.

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Don't.

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They make a big point of saying that the balcony door was a jar in the morning, but they

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also suggest that Amy then left the room without telling anybody.

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Renner, who has interviewed cruise staff and studied internal briefings, shared after

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the FBI investigation.

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Oh, he's stuck.

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Well, it doesn't matter.

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Pointed out the safety feature most cruise passengers may overlook.

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If you've ever been on a cruise ship, you know that there are warning plaques in your room

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that say do not open the cabin door when the balcony doors are open.

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He explained because the hallway is pressurized.

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So if you open the cabin door, it creates a wind tunnel and it often causes the cabin door

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to slam shut hard.

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Uh-huh.

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Interesting.

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You cannot quietly leave a cabin room with the balcony door open.

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It would have woken everybody up.

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Instead, Renner suggests the answer lies outside on the balcony itself.

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While searching her seaside room, investigators discovered Amy's palm prints on the balcony

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railing and her footprints on the glass door.

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On the glass door.

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On the glass door.

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It appears she was sitting on the balcony with her feet against the glass.

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Renner suggested adding it's possible she kicked off and when she did, the door opened

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a little bit.

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He believes what happened may have been a tragic example of Lapeu du Vide, the French phrase

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for the call of the void.

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What the fuck?

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She had a really tough night or really rough night.

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She'd been drinking and she had a very big decision to make when she got home.

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Does she live her life openly as a gay woman or does she live a lie to maintain her close

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relationship with her family?

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Renner said sitting alone on the balcony, Renner theorizes Amy may have experienced a moment

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of emotional overwhelm and acted on impulse.

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That voice inside you sometimes comes up and says what if?

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I think she's sitting on that balcony thinking what if and by pushing off, she causes action.

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Once overboard, Renner notes survival is rare.

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There's only about a 20% chance you're going to survive in the open sea long enough to

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be rescued.

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He said, Renner's theory stands in contrast to the widely circulated belief that Amy

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was abducted and sex trafficked.

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The unproven theory gained traction in the years following her disappearance and has

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even drawn attention from aspiring lawyer and mega celebrity Kim Kardashian.

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Renner, however, dismisses the trafficking theory as improbable.

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There is no verified account of a Caucasian woman being abducted and trafficked in the

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Caribbean, he said.

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A white woman is going to stand out in Grenada.

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It's not worth the risk for the people that do this.

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They have plenty of women from the Dominican Republic or Colombia who can go there and

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make more money than their family could in a year.

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Renner's forthcoming book, A Cruise to Know Where, Explores the Dynamic Case.

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For me, I've narrowed down what happened to Amy Bradley.

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I don't believe she ever came off that balcony, he said.

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I think it's highly likely she is responsible for whatever took place there.

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And then that's it.

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So her footprints were on the sliding glass door and her hand prints were on the

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opposite on the balcony.

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And when she pushed off the door, slid open, is that what he's saying?

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It makes sense.

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And also, you know, the table was pushed up against the railing.

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So either I agree with him.

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I think either she stood on the table, took her shirt off, so she didn't puke on it.

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Yeah.

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And then leaned over the railing, standing on a table and was drunk and fell over for

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this theory.

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Either way, I just don't buy any of the leaving somehow getting off the ship,

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right, being smuggled off the ship.

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I mean, that is way too much work.

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And it does make sense that, you know, a Caucasian woman is a risk.

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And big risk.

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Who would go through all that?

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Yeah.

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And even what's his name, to catch a predator, Chris, Chris Hanson.

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Yes, was on Daily Dose of Donna.

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We're like Chris Harrison.

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Chris Hardwick, all the Chris's.

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He was on her show and he, he, they brought that story up and he said that, that, that the

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trafficking doesn't work that way either.

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Like, no, she probably, well, he would know.

287
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Right.

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Yeah.

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He's doing a bunch of documentaries about all this stuff too.

290
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Oh, really?

291
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Yeah.

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He's like on True Blue Network.

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You can go watch it.

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They've, he's continuing catching predators and he's doing a documentary on, um, Roblox

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and how they can lure kids.

296
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Oh, shit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Very, very interesting.

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And then he's doing another one, sex extortion, sex extortion, which is, we've talked about this

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before where across the world somewhere, they're, they're like targeting teenage boys pretending

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to be catfishing them, pretending to be beautiful teenage girls and like, start talking with

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them and chatting them up and like, you show me, I'll, I'll show you mine.

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I'll show you show, and then they send a picture of themselves and then they start to get

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extorted.

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Like, we're going to send this picture to your parents, to all your friends and these kids

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have committed suicide.

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There's been a lot of kids in our country.

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Yeah.

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And, and Michigan, like around in our country, like a, a handful of them have committed suicide

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because they don't think there's any way out.

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They don't want to tell their parents, you know?

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So he's doing a documentary about that.

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Yes, he wouldn't know and he, he agrees that she fell over.

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I need to see that documentary immediately.

316
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Right.

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A row blocks one.

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A row blocks one.

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I don't know when it's out.

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I think he's working on it.

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It's going to come out soon.

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Roblox.

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Roblox, road to ruin.

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There you go.

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Just trying to help get ahold of them.

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Reach out to him.

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We reach out on social media.

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I, I, I need your documentary.

329
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You're well.

330
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You need a subtitle.

331
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I got you.

332
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There you go.

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Yeah.

334
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Yeah.

335
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He said the row blocks thing is crazy.

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They, they go into these, it's the chat rooms.

337
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Yeah.

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I mean, I remember reading about that back when my kids were on the row blocks and then I

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was like, do people ever reach out to you and try to like talk to you on row blocks?

340
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And they're like, no, never.

341
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But they don't do it in such a way that they're in like row blocks chat rooms or whatever.

342
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Right.

343
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I think that you can just set it up where you're just talking to your friends in your

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contacts.

345
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I don't know.

346
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I don't know.

347
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I think that's what that they did.

348
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The underused you.

349
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Yeah.

350
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Or you could be public.

351
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And I think that's the one that gets you and, you know, can be dangerous.

352
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Right.

353
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I just don't think my kids were ever really looking for friends like that.

354
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Yeah.

355
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But there was something that Zander did where, but they couldn't reach out to him specifically

356
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but where they chat and he was getting even like a little bit bullied.

357
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Like some of these kids are just weird.

358
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Yes.

359
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Yeah.

360
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It is a weird and it's for that age too where they're young boys and they want to fuck with

361
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you, you know, yes.

362
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Like, hey, let's get online and fuck with other kids and bully them and stuff like that.

363
00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,360
But then it's also assess pool for weirdos.

364
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The pretend to be young kids.

365
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Right.

366
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But there are ways to do it safely.

367
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Like I said, when I talk to my kids, they're like, no, nobody, the way there is was set

368
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up, nobody can like talk to them.

369
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Yeah.

370
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That's good.

371
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Because I remember there were some alarmists that were like, your kids should never

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play roadblocks.

373
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They're getting sex trafficked, you know?

374
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Right.

375
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And I was like, well, slow down.

376
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Yeah.

377
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Like, right.

378
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You know, yeah, not that I'm on top of everything perfectly.

379
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Right.

380
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I, I watched the Delphi murder.

381
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They on Hulu.

382
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Okay.

383
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It's like four or three or four episodes.

384
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And you know, we've, I've seen it the story before and I know that they caught somebody.

385
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But this Hulu documentary kind of focuses on is this the really, is this really the

386
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guy?

387
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The thing a lot of people do not think that was the guy.

388
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No.

389
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And this, if it's not, it's really sad because this guy was married.

390
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He had grown children.

391
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He was just a hard working guy, you know, kind of looked apart.

392
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The reason why they, they thought it was him because he went to the police very beginning

393
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when he found out that those girls were on that bridge.

394
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He called the police and said, I was there that morning.

395
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And I don't know.

396
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I don't remember if he saw the girls or not.

397
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But he said, I was there.

398
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And if you need any help, like, I'm here to help or something like that.

399
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And then at first they were like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

400
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But then years went by and then they were like, well, let's go back to this guy.

401
00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,360
And there was a bullet that was, didn't fire.

402
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It was like as if he racked the gun and a bullet would come out like to scare them.

403
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So there was a bullet found near their body.

404
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And apparently that bullet matched one of the guns they found.

405
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They rated his house, matched that it could, could be.

406
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His defense attorney were on this documentary and they were like, really?

407
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That could be anything or whatever.

408
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It's like, that's the only thing they had.

409
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They had no DNA.

410
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They had nothing else.

411
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He just kind of looked like it.

412
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And he was just this guy that was married and if he's innocent, it's horrible.

413
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Because you see him throughout the years in jail and he lost all this weight.

414
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And then when he was in jail, his wife was sticking by him.

415
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She was hysterical.

416
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She was upset.

417
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High school, sweethearts, they were on the, she was on the phone while he was in prison.

418
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And he said, I did it.

419
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I did it.

420
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She's like, no, you did it.

421
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No, you did it.

422
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He was, no, I killed Libby and Abby.

423
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And she's like, no, you didn't.

424
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And then the defense attorney said he was in solitary confinement for months.

425
00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:13,680
And like, you're not, there's only supposed to be in there for a short amount of time.

426
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They kept him in solitary confinement.

427
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They didn't give him his medication that he needed.

428
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He was going a little crazy.

429
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And that's, you know, they, and then they had a professional say that can happen when you're

430
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in jail.

431
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They, they talked to you so much and make you think that you committed the murder that

432
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it can happen and it can give you a false confession.

433
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So he went to trial and then he was convicted and now he's in jail for the rest of his life.

434
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Oh, my God.

435
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That sounds really sad.

436
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Yeah.

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I watched one that was, that came out a while ago.

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So I was watching this documentary about, you remember that story at a Boston where the guy

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had a pregnant wife?

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I was watching that.

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You watched that too?

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I just was watching that.

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Yes.

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It was out a while ago, but maybe they just started recommending it again.

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Well, because I started watching the yogurt murders and it was only one episode.

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And now I'm like, okay, I want to watch another and I've forgotten.

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You were talking, I thought about you because I know you've brought it up before way a long

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time ago.

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A long time ago.

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Success with that case.

506
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Yes.

507
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So then I started watching it and oh my gosh, it's a great documentary and really interesting.

508
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And so speaking of people giving false confessions, the guy who killed his wife was like, it was

509
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a black guy.

510
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Right.

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So they went down into this neighborhood projects and they just started like rounding up

512
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like black guys for nothing.

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Right.

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And then they got one guy and they scared him so bad and he was pretty young and they just

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told him he's not going home and they got him to rat out somebody else.

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And then that guy had committed a crime.

517
00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:37,440
So even eventually, so the guy who actually had his wife killed himself.

518
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,440
Yes.

519
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,980
Well, the brother ended up telling on him.

520
00:21:39,980 --> 00:21:40,980
Right.

521
00:21:40,980 --> 00:21:42,500
That was incredible documentary.

522
00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:43,820
And then that guy jumped off a bridge.

523
00:21:43,820 --> 00:21:46,140
Yeah, he jumped off the bridge before they could arrest him.

524
00:21:46,140 --> 00:21:47,140
Yeah.

525
00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:52,460
So then rather than let the guy out of jail, they're like, well, you did something else anyway.

526
00:21:52,460 --> 00:21:53,460
Right.

527
00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:57,260
So they fucking tried him for something else, which is just like, it's so fucked up.

528
00:21:57,260 --> 00:21:58,260
You know what else is fucked up?

529
00:21:58,260 --> 00:22:03,120
I watched the Katrina documentary on Hulu because it's like the 20 year anniversary of Katrina

530
00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:04,320
this month.

531
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,460
And I, there's like five episodes.

532
00:22:06,460 --> 00:22:08,060
I think I got through three.

533
00:22:08,060 --> 00:22:13,140
But the thing that really upset me is the news when it happened.

534
00:22:13,140 --> 00:22:15,020
They were like, violence happening.

535
00:22:15,020 --> 00:22:17,060
There's rape at the super dome.

536
00:22:17,060 --> 00:22:18,420
A little girl was getting raped.

537
00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:20,140
There's people getting shot at the super dome.

538
00:22:20,140 --> 00:22:21,740
There's people looting blah, blah, blah.

539
00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:26,140
First of all, the people looting are people that were stuck with no electricity, no food,

540
00:22:26,140 --> 00:22:27,660
no help on the way.

541
00:22:27,660 --> 00:22:29,160
There was nobody coming to help them.

542
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,860
They were out on their own.

543
00:22:30,860 --> 00:22:31,860
They haven't eaten in days.

544
00:22:31,860 --> 00:22:33,860
They're going to go get food.

545
00:22:33,860 --> 00:22:36,220
So they make it look like it was chaos.

546
00:22:36,220 --> 00:22:37,900
They interviewed people in the super dome.

547
00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:41,380
There was one guy that had a video camera throughout the whole thing.

548
00:22:41,380 --> 00:22:43,820
And he went to the super dome to get shelter.

549
00:22:43,820 --> 00:22:44,820
And he had his video care.

550
00:22:44,820 --> 00:22:46,300
And there was no rape.

551
00:22:46,300 --> 00:22:48,500
There was no fucking violence.

552
00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:50,340
It was just people suffering.

553
00:22:50,340 --> 00:22:52,180
It was hot as hell in there.

554
00:22:52,180 --> 00:22:55,380
It was just you, so when you watch the documentary now.

555
00:22:55,380 --> 00:23:00,460
And then the FEMA guy was like, I got to go to dinner first before I can come and answer

556
00:23:00,460 --> 00:23:01,460
your email.

557
00:23:01,460 --> 00:23:03,460
It was just so corrupt.

558
00:23:03,460 --> 00:23:05,060
And then this one guy was great.

559
00:23:05,060 --> 00:23:11,060
He was like the head of the Louisiana, US, Navy, whatever.

560
00:23:11,060 --> 00:23:15,180
He comes in and he starts fucking getting shit together.

561
00:23:15,180 --> 00:23:19,100
And he's like, and he's like, this guy's taken the guy ahead and FEMA is going to take a break.

562
00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:21,060
He's like, I haven't slept in days.

563
00:23:21,060 --> 00:23:22,060
And he was great.

564
00:23:22,060 --> 00:23:24,060
It's a great documentary.

565
00:23:24,060 --> 00:23:25,300
It's really interesting.

566
00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:26,300
It's on HBO.

567
00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:27,300
It's on Hulu.

568
00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:28,300
It's called Katrina.

569
00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:29,300
Yeah.

570
00:23:29,300 --> 00:23:30,300
Okay.

571
00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:31,300
Yeah.

572
00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:32,300
I'm sure people have seen it by now.

573
00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:34,300
Yeah, it's really good.

574
00:23:34,300 --> 00:23:35,300
Okay.

575
00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:41,420
I watched, like more stuff I watched, but then I also have a podcast.

576
00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:42,740
Should I talk about the podcast first?

577
00:23:42,740 --> 00:23:43,740
Yeah.

578
00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:44,740
Okay.

579
00:23:44,740 --> 00:23:45,740
I think you'll find this interesting.

580
00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:52,620
So I found this podcast and it was, I think, okay, hold on.

581
00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:56,620
I have to look at my podcast app to tell you exactly what it's called.

582
00:23:56,620 --> 00:23:59,380
And it's called bad, bad thing.

583
00:23:59,380 --> 00:24:04,180
So I read on Reddit, like somebody recommended this podcast.

584
00:24:04,180 --> 00:24:05,340
So I listened to this.

585
00:24:05,340 --> 00:24:07,460
So there's two different seasons of this.

586
00:24:07,460 --> 00:24:10,380
I think there's two seasons and they're both good.

587
00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:14,940
So the first season I listened to is about this woman named Jenner.

588
00:24:14,940 --> 00:24:15,940
Jenner.

589
00:24:15,940 --> 00:24:16,940
J-E-N-N-A-I-R.

590
00:24:16,940 --> 00:24:18,700
Did you listen to this podcast?

591
00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:20,580
I think I know this story.

592
00:24:20,580 --> 00:24:22,580
I hear Gerardo.

593
00:24:22,580 --> 00:24:23,580
Okay.

594
00:24:23,580 --> 00:24:26,140
It's this woman.

595
00:24:26,140 --> 00:24:28,020
She's married to this guy named Mark.

596
00:24:28,020 --> 00:24:29,020
Yeah.

597
00:24:29,020 --> 00:24:30,020
I know the story.

598
00:24:30,020 --> 00:24:31,020
Okay.

599
00:24:31,020 --> 00:24:32,020
It's so crazy.

600
00:24:32,020 --> 00:24:34,420
I remember I think I heard this documentary.

601
00:24:34,420 --> 00:24:36,180
Well, so it's not a show though.

602
00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:37,180
It's a podcast.

603
00:24:37,180 --> 00:24:38,180
Right.

604
00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:40,580
I think I listened to this podcast a while ago.

605
00:24:40,580 --> 00:24:42,860
So and then there was like a 2020 on it.

606
00:24:42,860 --> 00:24:43,860
Oh, okay.

607
00:24:43,860 --> 00:24:44,860
I'm sure there was.

608
00:24:44,860 --> 00:24:45,860
Yeah.

609
00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:47,460
All these things have like a 2020.

610
00:24:47,460 --> 00:24:52,660
But like this thing had a lot of episodes because there's a lot of tape.

611
00:24:52,660 --> 00:24:54,140
So this, okay.

612
00:24:54,140 --> 00:24:56,660
So he's married to this woman named Jennifer.

613
00:24:56,660 --> 00:24:59,660
He starts having an affair with somebody he works with.

614
00:24:59,660 --> 00:25:00,660
Yeah.

615
00:25:00,660 --> 00:25:01,900
He's married to Jenner.

616
00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:02,900
He's married to Jenner.

617
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:05,180
He starts having an affair with this other woman.

618
00:25:05,180 --> 00:25:06,180
I forgot.

619
00:25:06,180 --> 00:25:07,180
I'm like forgetting her name.

620
00:25:07,180 --> 00:25:08,180
Yeah.

621
00:25:08,180 --> 00:25:09,180
It's color like Kristen.

622
00:25:09,180 --> 00:25:10,180
Okay.

623
00:25:10,180 --> 00:25:13,460
So Kristen is like this woman he works with.

624
00:25:13,460 --> 00:25:16,020
No, listen, is this guy like a great guy?

625
00:25:16,020 --> 00:25:17,020
No.

626
00:25:17,020 --> 00:25:18,820
You know, he's cheating on his wife.

627
00:25:18,820 --> 00:25:24,620
He cheated on his wife before one time before and he's, and he starts like cheating on Jenner.

628
00:25:24,620 --> 00:25:27,260
But he, but Jenner starts to suspect it.

629
00:25:27,260 --> 00:25:29,380
But Jenner is batshit crazy.

630
00:25:29,380 --> 00:25:30,380
Right.

631
00:25:30,380 --> 00:25:32,100
Definitely borderline personality.

632
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:34,820
She starts suspecting something she asks him about it.

633
00:25:34,820 --> 00:25:37,580
He gets gas lady and he's like, no, what are you talking about?

634
00:25:37,580 --> 00:25:38,580
That's crazy.

635
00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:39,580
No.

636
00:25:39,580 --> 00:25:46,100
But she starts putting recording devices in his clothes, tracking device on his car.

637
00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:52,140
And she eventually finds like gets her recording of him like, like, with his girlfriend,

638
00:25:52,140 --> 00:25:54,940
and they're like, like, making little moaning noises.

639
00:25:54,940 --> 00:25:57,100
So she's like, the fuck?

640
00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:58,100
She gets really mad.

641
00:25:58,100 --> 00:25:59,100
Okay.

642
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:00,940
And is it she video taping herself?

643
00:26:00,940 --> 00:26:01,940
Yes.

644
00:26:01,940 --> 00:26:03,740
So she starts making all these days.

645
00:26:03,740 --> 00:26:07,180
Yeah, this video diary, which is so crazy.

646
00:26:07,180 --> 00:26:08,180
Yeah.

647
00:26:08,180 --> 00:26:13,820
And she's just like, I'm just nothing without Mark and like, how can he do this to me?

648
00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:20,420
And I feel like shit about myself and like, okay, well, it's not really a spoiler because

649
00:26:20,420 --> 00:26:21,620
you pretty much find this out.

650
00:26:21,620 --> 00:26:23,380
I think episode one.

651
00:26:23,380 --> 00:26:29,140
But she ends up killing his girlfriend and then killing herself.

652
00:26:29,140 --> 00:26:30,140
Right.

653
00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:31,140
To make him miserable.

654
00:26:31,140 --> 00:26:32,140
Yes.

655
00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:37,860
Now, the crazy thing about this podcast is that a lot of people are like, yeah, fuck him,

656
00:26:37,860 --> 00:26:39,380
he's a narcissist.

657
00:26:39,380 --> 00:26:42,940
But if you really listen to the podcast, you're like, I know.

658
00:26:42,940 --> 00:26:43,940
I know.

659
00:26:43,940 --> 00:26:44,940
I know.

660
00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:52,260
And a lot of us would, if you, if you, if you were cheating on somebody, a lot of us,

661
00:26:52,260 --> 00:26:56,140
and you were married to somebody who's absolutely out of their fucking mind, who you know is going

662
00:26:56,140 --> 00:26:57,140
to.

663
00:26:57,140 --> 00:26:59,020
And I listened to all the bonus episodes.

664
00:26:59,020 --> 00:27:00,780
They have him talking to a therapist.

665
00:27:00,780 --> 00:27:01,780
Yes.

666
00:27:01,780 --> 00:27:07,780
And they're basically like, he acknowledges like, she's not a person that you can tell stuff

667
00:27:07,780 --> 00:27:09,580
to that's going to really hurt her feelings.

668
00:27:09,580 --> 00:27:10,580
Yes.

669
00:27:10,580 --> 00:27:13,020
And it's pretty glen-close in fatal attraction.

670
00:27:13,020 --> 00:27:14,020
Yes.

671
00:27:14,020 --> 00:27:16,900
And he tried, I think like, tried to make her happy.

672
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:22,940
Like before he had the affair, he was really good to her and she was just kind of crazy.

673
00:27:22,940 --> 00:27:27,700
And I did feel bad for him after it was all said and done because now he's living with

674
00:27:27,700 --> 00:27:31,700
this, this death sentence that his wife killed his girlfriend.

675
00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:33,900
You know, she broke into her house or whatever.

676
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:34,900
Yeah.

677
00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:36,900
But like, and they're both gone.

678
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:37,900
Yes.

679
00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:39,860
He wasn't that hateable of a guy.

680
00:27:39,860 --> 00:27:40,540
No.

681
00:27:40,540 --> 00:27:43,660
And what, she was more of a narcissist than him.

682
00:27:43,660 --> 00:27:44,820
It like insane.

683
00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:45,820
Right.

684
00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:46,820
But then, okay.

685
00:27:46,820 --> 00:27:48,820
So go listen to that one.

686
00:27:48,820 --> 00:27:49,820
That's like season one.

687
00:27:49,820 --> 00:27:50,820
That's a good one.

688
00:27:50,820 --> 00:27:53,180
But then so season one ends, right?

689
00:27:53,180 --> 00:27:57,540
And I'm like, oh, that was a pretty good podcast that I hadn't known about before.

690
00:27:57,540 --> 00:27:59,500
And it's really, they do a deep dive.

691
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:00,500
They have so much audio.

692
00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:01,500
Yeah.

693
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:05,860
And the only thing that made me mad was that they're like, you know, he was such a narcissist.

694
00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:06,860
It's like, okay.

695
00:28:06,860 --> 00:28:07,860
Right.

696
00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:08,860
I get it.

697
00:28:08,860 --> 00:28:09,940
He should have told her like, it's over.

698
00:28:09,940 --> 00:28:14,180
But he also just felt really bad and wasn't sure he wanted it to be over.

699
00:28:14,180 --> 00:28:15,180
And he was kind of a dick.

700
00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:16,780
He wanted to like keep both things going.

701
00:28:16,780 --> 00:28:17,780
Right.

702
00:28:17,780 --> 00:28:18,780
Right.

703
00:28:18,780 --> 00:28:24,260
And the girlfriend started to be a little bit crazy too, even though she was better.

704
00:28:24,260 --> 00:28:26,900
But he was like, maybe I need a break from both of you.

705
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:28,260
Like he didn't know what he wanted.

706
00:28:28,260 --> 00:28:29,260
So you get it.

707
00:28:29,260 --> 00:28:30,260
Okay.

708
00:28:30,260 --> 00:28:37,420
The next podcast though in this on this bad, bad thing is about this woman named Jill

709
00:28:37,420 --> 00:28:38,820
Blackstone.

710
00:28:38,820 --> 00:28:40,820
So have you ever heard of her?

711
00:28:40,820 --> 00:28:41,820
Okay.

712
00:28:41,820 --> 00:28:45,820
So this woman was a producer, like a reality producer.

713
00:28:45,820 --> 00:28:48,500
This is called the blackstone sisters.

714
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:49,500
Okay.

715
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:50,500
Okay.

716
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:56,940
So this woman, Jill Blackstone is a reality producer.

717
00:28:56,940 --> 00:29:01,300
She did a bunch of like, she was a producer on the Dr. Drew show.

718
00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:02,300
Oh, really?

719
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:03,300
Yeah.

720
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:08,460
She produced on a bunch of shows that like, I have to get John to ask his friend.

721
00:29:08,460 --> 00:29:12,340
John has friends that he's pretty sure have worked with her.

722
00:29:12,340 --> 00:29:13,340
Uh-huh.

723
00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:15,940
Like VHW and reality TV and stuff.

724
00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:18,140
Not VHW and shows more talk shows.

725
00:29:18,140 --> 00:29:19,140
Okay.

726
00:29:19,140 --> 00:29:24,500
But Dr. Drew like, Mori Povitch, way back in the day, I think.

727
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:28,580
And then like, I don't know, but like some fairly big shows.

728
00:29:28,580 --> 00:29:35,780
Anyway, she's got a sister living with her who's disabled named Wendy.

729
00:29:35,780 --> 00:29:39,100
Well, this story is so freaking crazy.

730
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:46,900
So this woman, at first, the whole, the story is basically that her sister is like blind

731
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:49,620
and pretty much, pretty much almost blind.

732
00:29:49,620 --> 00:29:55,660
She's got some genetic condition where her eyesight started going when she was younger.

733
00:29:55,660 --> 00:29:56,940
And then it got worse and worse and worse.

734
00:29:56,940 --> 00:29:57,940
She's almost blind.

735
00:29:57,940 --> 00:30:00,820
Um, and then she was kind of going deaf.

736
00:30:00,820 --> 00:30:03,580
And she was unable to like get around very well.

737
00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:06,100
And she lives with her sister with Jill.

738
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:07,620
Okay.

739
00:30:07,620 --> 00:30:10,420
And then she died.

740
00:30:10,420 --> 00:30:12,700
She basically, it's okay.

741
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:14,500
And this part is really, really sad.

742
00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:16,260
So I don't want to be triggering to anybody.

743
00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:19,700
But the girl who died also had a bunch of dogs.

744
00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:20,700
Wendy.

745
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:21,700
When dogs died too.

746
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:22,700
Wendy.

747
00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:26,060
The dogs died too from carbon monoxide poisoning.

748
00:30:26,060 --> 00:30:27,060
Okay.

749
00:30:27,060 --> 00:30:28,060
Wow.

750
00:30:28,060 --> 00:30:29,060
Yeah.

751
00:30:29,060 --> 00:30:32,540
Well, so then you have all these interviews.

752
00:30:32,540 --> 00:30:39,140
So Jill also, um, seemed to be maybe poisoned by carbon monoxide.

753
00:30:39,140 --> 00:30:41,420
She was found outside on her front lawn.

754
00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:42,780
This is in Studio City.

755
00:30:42,780 --> 00:30:46,460
So you know how we love stuff that takes place like locally.

756
00:30:46,460 --> 00:30:47,980
It's like right around the block.

757
00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:50,260
This is what literally walk there.

758
00:30:50,260 --> 00:30:51,260
Yes.

759
00:30:51,260 --> 00:30:52,260
Walk to where this woman was living.

760
00:30:52,260 --> 00:30:53,260
Wow.

761
00:30:53,260 --> 00:30:54,260
I'm not kidding.

762
00:30:54,260 --> 00:30:55,260
I think it was on like landale street.

763
00:30:55,260 --> 00:30:56,260
Wow.

764
00:30:56,260 --> 00:30:57,260
Yes.

765
00:30:57,260 --> 00:30:58,260
Right by here.

766
00:30:58,260 --> 00:30:59,260
Right by here.

767
00:30:59,260 --> 00:31:00,260
Yeah.

768
00:31:00,260 --> 00:31:01,260
Um, so anyway, but as you listen to it, you're going to be like, you know, I'm going to

769
00:31:01,260 --> 00:31:04,580
as you listen to it, you're going to just be like, what?

770
00:31:04,580 --> 00:31:05,580
Okay.

771
00:31:05,580 --> 00:31:10,380
So then they start interviewing her after this happens and they're like, and first of all,

772
00:31:10,380 --> 00:31:11,380
she's fine.

773
00:31:11,380 --> 00:31:14,860
Like she's not carbon monoxide poisoned, surviving one, right?

774
00:31:14,860 --> 00:31:19,420
And she's like, I don't remember what happened, but then they start talking to her and they're

775
00:31:19,420 --> 00:31:22,420
like, yeah, so, so what do you do?

776
00:31:22,420 --> 00:31:26,700
And she's like, this is the an hour after like a half hour.

777
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:31,900
Like she calls 911 and then or someone else calls 911.

778
00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:32,900
Yeah.

779
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:37,620
She called like her friend and then the friend came over and then the friend was like, uh,

780
00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:40,300
Wendy's dead and then called 911.

781
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:44,700
So they bring her into the station and she's like, they're like, so where do you work?

782
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:47,100
And she's like, Oh, I'm a TV producer.

783
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,900
And they're like, Oh, like, what have you worked on and stuff?

784
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:51,940
And she's joking around.

785
00:31:51,940 --> 00:31:58,520
She's just like, Oh, I go way back like Mori Povitch or whatever and, you know, Montel

786
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,300
will and they're like, Oh, really?

787
00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:03,180
And they're kind of stroking her ego a little bit.

788
00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:05,100
She's like, yeah, I didn't even go to college.

789
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:10,300
Like I just like started and you're like, are you freaking kidding me?

790
00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:11,700
That's bizarre.

791
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:16,300
So then and there's a lot of audio of her too.

792
00:32:16,300 --> 00:32:17,780
And she's crazy.

793
00:32:17,780 --> 00:32:24,980
So then it's just kind of funny because while I'm listening to this, I have this friend,

794
00:32:24,980 --> 00:32:29,540
I won't say her name because I'm going to redo a text that I had with her.

795
00:32:29,540 --> 00:32:30,580
But let's call her Tina.

796
00:32:30,580 --> 00:32:31,580
Okay.

797
00:32:31,580 --> 00:32:36,420
So I have this friend named Tina who, oh, because this woman worked on divorce court.

798
00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:37,420
Uh-huh.

799
00:32:37,420 --> 00:32:39,620
So I have a friend who also worked on that show, Tina.

800
00:32:39,620 --> 00:32:40,620
Okay.

801
00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:44,180
So I texted Tina and I was like, okay, wait, I have to find, I have to find the text

802
00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:45,180
record.

803
00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:46,420
I was on divorce court when I was young.

804
00:32:46,420 --> 00:32:47,420
Really?

805
00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:48,420
That's an episode.

806
00:32:48,420 --> 00:32:50,140
I was like playing a kid.

807
00:32:50,140 --> 00:32:51,140
Yeah.

808
00:32:51,140 --> 00:32:52,140
I intended to be so a teenager.

809
00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:53,140
I'm pretending to be so a teenager.

810
00:32:53,140 --> 00:32:54,140
I honestly don't remember.

811
00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:59,940
I was like a teenager and I think I just had to like get up on the stand and say a couple

812
00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:00,940
of lines.

813
00:33:00,940 --> 00:33:05,820
Yeah, because my parents were getting a divorce and they were arguing.

814
00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:06,820
Oh, okay.

815
00:33:06,820 --> 00:33:08,820
So it was your parents.

816
00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:09,820
Oh, that's so funny.

817
00:33:09,820 --> 00:33:10,820
Yeah.

818
00:33:10,820 --> 00:33:11,820
Those things are all scripted.

819
00:33:11,820 --> 00:33:12,820
I know.

820
00:33:12,820 --> 00:33:13,820
They totally.

821
00:33:13,820 --> 00:33:14,820
Yeah.

822
00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:15,820
Yeah.

823
00:33:15,820 --> 00:33:20,540
So I also worked on like Judge Joe Brown, which she would just tell me crazy stories about.

824
00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:23,180
Apparently he was like, not very smart.

825
00:33:23,180 --> 00:33:24,180
Oh, really?

826
00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:25,540
But this one, this woman is really funny.

827
00:33:25,540 --> 00:33:31,540
So I just wrote, hey, I wrote, hey, I'm listening to this crazy older podcast about the blackstone

828
00:33:31,540 --> 00:33:34,980
sisters and I'm thinking you must have crossed paths.

829
00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:40,540
And she wrote, hi, luckily I've never had the misfortune of working for Jill.

830
00:33:40,540 --> 00:33:44,580
And then she names another producer friend of hers, Adam.

831
00:33:44,580 --> 00:33:45,780
Adam has horror stories.

832
00:33:45,780 --> 00:33:47,660
And then she does, does everyone else who ever worked for her?

833
00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:48,660
She was a real cunt.

834
00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:49,660
Oh, my God.

835
00:33:49,660 --> 00:33:53,660
That she goes, let's just put it this way.

836
00:33:53,660 --> 00:33:57,540
When the news came out that she killed her sister, no one was surprised.

837
00:33:57,540 --> 00:33:58,540
Wow.

838
00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:01,740
And I was like, oh my God, it seems so obvious.

839
00:34:01,740 --> 00:34:08,740
And then she used to have a podcast where she talked about like reality TV.

840
00:34:08,740 --> 00:34:13,020
And I said, did you, I said, this is so insane.

841
00:34:13,020 --> 00:34:16,300
I said, did you talk about her basically when you were doing your podcast?

842
00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:20,460
And she goes, I didn't talk about her because she hadn't been sentenced yet.

843
00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:24,340
Also that was at a time where you really couldn't talk about other people in the industry,

844
00:34:24,340 --> 00:34:29,100
even if they were murderers, because it would make it look like you would turn on your boss.

845
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:33,340
And all these unscripted executive producers were horrid, as you know, so they didn't want

846
00:34:33,340 --> 00:34:37,260
to hire anybody who would talk about the horrible treatment they got while working for

847
00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:38,260
them.

848
00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:43,380
Anyway, then she tried to tell me that this woman was out of jail.

849
00:34:43,380 --> 00:34:47,660
And I was like, there's no way she just got sentenced in 2022.

850
00:34:47,660 --> 00:34:49,820
So that is a spoiler alert.

851
00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:51,340
She is in jail for this.

852
00:34:51,340 --> 00:34:52,340
Okay.

853
00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:55,020
But she didn't get very, she only got like eight years.

854
00:34:55,020 --> 00:34:56,020
Really?

855
00:34:56,020 --> 00:34:57,020
Yeah.

856
00:34:57,020 --> 00:35:01,020
And like I said, Tina thought she was out of jail, but I went, then I was, I'm at the gym.

857
00:35:01,020 --> 00:35:02,540
And I'm like Googling like crazy.

858
00:35:02,540 --> 00:35:04,980
And then I was like, no, she is not out of jail.

859
00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:05,980
She's still in jail.

860
00:35:05,980 --> 00:35:06,980
She is.

861
00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:07,980
Okay.

862
00:35:07,980 --> 00:35:11,460
Now, but another freaking crazy part, I want to listen to that.

863
00:35:11,460 --> 00:35:14,300
I'm going to totally, so it's called bad, bad thing.

864
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:15,300
Yeah.

865
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:16,300
Yeah.

866
00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:17,300
Wow.

867
00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:18,300
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913
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So okay.

914
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:45,060
Last week you told me that you started watching hunting wives.

915
00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:46,060
Yes.

916
00:37:46,060 --> 00:37:48,140
And I was like, well, let me have something to talk to Lynette about.

917
00:37:48,140 --> 00:37:51,820
So I've been, I'm like on episode five, there's only eight.

918
00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:52,820
Okay.

919
00:37:52,820 --> 00:37:53,820
Yeah.

920
00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:55,460
I think I've watched all of five.

921
00:37:55,460 --> 00:37:56,460
Okay.

922
00:37:56,460 --> 00:37:57,460
Okay.

923
00:37:57,460 --> 00:38:02,300
Then I heard, like, I don't know if it was really a spoiler, but basically it says it ends

924
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:04,300
on a cliffhanger and then I was annoyed.

925
00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:05,700
Is it going to end on a cliffhanger?

926
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:07,900
No, you're going to find out what happened.

927
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:08,900
Okay.

928
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:11,180
It ends where, not a cliffhanger.

929
00:38:11,180 --> 00:38:12,660
It'll be, it'll be solved.

930
00:38:12,660 --> 00:38:13,660
You'll know what happened.

931
00:38:13,660 --> 00:38:19,300
But it does end where they're like, like, alluding to they can be season two.

932
00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:20,300
Okay.

933
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:21,300
Yeah.

934
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:22,300
What do you think?

935
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:25,100
I mean, it was really campy and stupid.

936
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:26,100
Yeah, right.

937
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:30,460
And yeah, but it was like, you know, I was watching it at night when I was falling asleep,

938
00:38:30,460 --> 00:38:32,620
so it took me a while to get through all of them.

939
00:38:32,620 --> 00:38:39,500
But I mean, it was just, some of it was just like way over the top kind of stuff, but,

940
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:43,460
but the storyline was kind of interesting because there are a lot of twists and turns.

941
00:38:43,460 --> 00:38:45,180
Like, you're like, okay, I think this guy did.

942
00:38:45,180 --> 00:38:50,500
Then I think this, but it gets really good and it is satisfying the way it ends.

943
00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:51,980
I'll tell you that.

944
00:38:51,980 --> 00:38:59,140
I was, I thought it was very interesting because, oh, well, first of all, I should say that

945
00:38:59,140 --> 00:39:01,340
I was doing other, I was watching it.

946
00:39:01,340 --> 00:39:02,340
I was doing laundry.

947
00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:06,340
I'm doing other things and John walks in the room and he's like, are you watching porn?

948
00:39:06,340 --> 00:39:08,020
I, that's the other thing.

949
00:39:08,020 --> 00:39:09,020
There was a lot of that.

950
00:39:09,020 --> 00:39:10,420
And I was like, all right.

951
00:39:10,420 --> 00:39:14,660
Like, how many times do we have to watch this two chicks make it out?

952
00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:17,100
Nothing wrong with it, but like, it was a lot.

953
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:18,540
It was really over the top.

954
00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:21,260
Two chicks making out and eating each other.

955
00:39:21,260 --> 00:39:23,620
A lot of eating, eating out.

956
00:39:23,620 --> 00:39:24,620
Yes.

957
00:39:24,620 --> 00:39:25,620
What are eating out?

958
00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:28,460
Yeah, not just the two chicks, but like the older lady with the young guy.

959
00:39:28,460 --> 00:39:29,460
Yes.

960
00:39:29,460 --> 00:39:31,740
And like, John's like, this is like lady porn.

961
00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:32,740
I know.

962
00:39:32,740 --> 00:39:35,100
I guess it's like porn with a story.

963
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:36,100
Right.

964
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:39,780
That's why I watched it late at night because sometimes the kids will walk in my room and

965
00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:42,300
I want sunny walking my room going, what the fuck are you watching?

966
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:43,300
I know.

967
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:47,140
So like, once everybody's in bed, that way I can just fall asleep to it.

968
00:39:47,140 --> 00:39:48,140
Yeah.

969
00:39:48,140 --> 00:39:51,420
So funny because I have that too with Sadie.

970
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:56,620
So the room is like, you have to be very, very intentional to come into our bedroom because

971
00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:58,380
it's off the kitchen now.

972
00:39:58,380 --> 00:40:01,060
But sometimes Sadie will just, I don't keep the door like closed.

973
00:40:01,060 --> 00:40:02,060
Yeah, me either.

974
00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:04,860
Sadie will just walk in and for no reason just be like, hey, mom.

975
00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:05,860
Yes.

976
00:40:05,860 --> 00:40:07,620
I don't need two women eating each other out.

977
00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:08,620
Right.

978
00:40:08,620 --> 00:40:10,220
Sunny will walk in my room like, where's Phil?

979
00:40:10,220 --> 00:40:13,300
Cause Phil's always with me and he wants to pet Phil and say hi to Phil.

980
00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:14,300
Like, at night.

981
00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:17,460
So I'm like, okay, I can't have this on.

982
00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:22,780
But while sunny walking in or Natalia for that matter, it was way over the top.

983
00:40:22,780 --> 00:40:23,780
Yeah.

984
00:40:23,780 --> 00:40:24,780
Yeah.

985
00:40:24,780 --> 00:40:26,060
So I had to make sure everybody was done for the night.

986
00:40:26,060 --> 00:40:27,900
My door was closed.

987
00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:33,180
I did find it interesting that be like good character kind of, right?

988
00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:34,180
Mm-hmm.

989
00:40:34,180 --> 00:40:35,340
Okay, I wanted to know what you thought about this.

990
00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:37,500
So there's a character.

991
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:44,380
I don't really think this is too much of a spoiler, but there's the kind of innocent blonde

992
00:40:44,380 --> 00:40:45,380
Yes.

993
00:40:45,380 --> 00:40:47,700
Girl who's out of her element fish out of water.

994
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:49,300
She's around all these Southern women.

995
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:50,300
Yes.

996
00:40:50,300 --> 00:40:51,300
She moved from Boston.

997
00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:52,300
Yeah.

998
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:55,900
But doesn't she get corrupted like pretty fast and easily pretty quick?

999
00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:57,500
So she's like, oh, I don't drink.

1000
00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:01,540
I'm sober, you know, because she'd been in like a drunk driving accident.

1001
00:41:01,540 --> 00:41:02,540
Right.

1002
00:41:02,540 --> 00:41:05,740
Well, like at the first opportunity, the first time someone's like, yeah, but you should

1003
00:41:05,740 --> 00:41:06,740
have a shot.

1004
00:41:06,740 --> 00:41:07,740
She's like, all right.

1005
00:41:07,740 --> 00:41:08,740
All right.

1006
00:41:08,740 --> 00:41:09,740
I know.

1007
00:41:09,740 --> 00:41:10,740
I got that too.

1008
00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:11,740
I would.

1009
00:41:11,740 --> 00:41:12,740
I think it didn't take long to get her corrupted.

1010
00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:13,740
I know.

1011
00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:14,740
Right.

1012
00:41:14,740 --> 00:41:15,740
Pretty fast.

1013
00:41:15,740 --> 00:41:23,420
And then she's doing a lot of stuff that I was like, okay, like I get that you've like relapsed

1014
00:41:23,420 --> 00:41:24,660
and now you're drinking.

1015
00:41:24,660 --> 00:41:32,700
So your morals are not really, you maybe operating beneath your moral compass, but like pretty

1016
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:34,220
bad, pretty fast.

1017
00:41:34,220 --> 00:41:40,260
Like if I was married to her, I'd be, I wouldn't be like, oh, no, yes, I'd be like, what

1018
00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:41,260
the fuck?

1019
00:41:41,260 --> 00:41:42,260
Yes.

1020
00:41:42,260 --> 00:41:43,260
Absolutely.

1021
00:41:43,260 --> 00:41:45,700
I don't know if I'm a flashback of her in college yet.

1022
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:46,700
No.

1023
00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:47,700
Okay.

1024
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:52,260
So there's a flashback that kind of explains why she is how she is kind of thing.

1025
00:41:52,260 --> 00:41:53,260
Oh, yeah.

1026
00:41:53,260 --> 00:41:54,260
What is it?

1027
00:41:54,260 --> 00:41:55,260
Why is she that way?

1028
00:41:55,260 --> 00:41:56,540
I don't want to spoil it.

1029
00:41:56,540 --> 00:41:57,540
Okay.

1030
00:41:57,540 --> 00:41:58,540
Yeah.

1031
00:41:58,540 --> 00:41:59,540
Okay.

1032
00:41:59,540 --> 00:42:00,540
Yeah.

1033
00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:06,220
Coming up, if you're on five, it ramps up and gets, it starts to move fast and it is satisfying.

1034
00:42:06,220 --> 00:42:09,540
I will tell you this, there's already been a death.

1035
00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:12,140
So that's how far I am.

1036
00:42:12,140 --> 00:42:15,220
It's already happened and now they're trying to solve, okay.

1037
00:42:15,220 --> 00:42:16,860
They're trying to solve a murder right now.

1038
00:42:16,860 --> 00:42:17,860
Yeah.

1039
00:42:17,860 --> 00:42:18,860
Okay.

1040
00:42:18,860 --> 00:42:19,860
Yeah.

1041
00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:20,860
All right.

1042
00:42:20,860 --> 00:42:23,340
So I mean, they are introducing a lot of characters.

1043
00:42:23,340 --> 00:42:26,140
Like you really have to be like, you can't be playing threes on your phone.

1044
00:42:26,140 --> 00:42:27,140
Oh, you got pay attention.

1045
00:42:27,140 --> 00:42:28,140
Who's who?

1046
00:42:28,140 --> 00:42:29,140
Yeah.

1047
00:42:29,140 --> 00:42:32,980
I have been watching so much stuff.

1048
00:42:32,980 --> 00:42:33,980
Okay.

1049
00:42:33,980 --> 00:42:39,980
So John and I started watching, oh my god, what's the, what's the show?

1050
00:42:39,980 --> 00:42:45,540
going to kill me, leave striver is the narrator of it. It's about the NFL season. They

1051
00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:53,740
do it every year. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Uh, I was sunny was telling me about it. Uh, training

1052
00:42:53,740 --> 00:42:58,800
camp training guests hard knocks hard knocks. Yeah, Oh, my God. Thank you. Yeah. You know

1053
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,980
what, we really don't need Kalen. I know. I got sunny in my brain. It's all he talks about,

1054
00:43:03,980 --> 00:43:11,660
so we used to watch hard knocks like years ago and love it back in the day when they had

1055
00:43:11,660 --> 00:43:15,220
a lot more money in it and they had a lot more camera crews and they could follow a lot

1056
00:43:15,220 --> 00:43:22,900
more stories. Right. And now it just feels like, like marketing. Yeah. Like a big long commercial

1057
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:30,820
right. I haven't seen it. Sunny talks about it. So what he watches, but, um, so I've been

1058
00:43:30,820 --> 00:43:35,300
playing games on my phone. Watch it with john's like, do you want to watch hard knocks? And

1059
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:38,780
I'm like, okay. And he's like, are you going to play on your phone? And I'm like, yeah,

1060
00:43:38,780 --> 00:43:45,060
pretty much. Yeah. I'm like, in my defense, you know, just, yeah. Right. I was looking

1061
00:43:45,060 --> 00:43:49,980
for documentaries to watch it. And I was like on Facebook, like, you know, best documentaries.

1062
00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:55,060
And the one that kept coming up was the keepers. And I never watched that one. And I don't

1063
00:43:55,060 --> 00:44:00,020
think I've watched really. It came up so, oh my God, the keepers is the best keepers.

1064
00:44:00,020 --> 00:44:04,500
Up there with, um, is it about the Catholic church? I think it has something to do with that.

1065
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:08,300
Yeah. Okay. And I do think that I have seen it about many years ago. I wouldn't remember.

1066
00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:12,660
I don't know the story. I just know that there's a none or whatever on the picture. Yeah.

1067
00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:18,580
That's how I know. But it comes up so much in these Facebook pages that are all about documentaries.

1068
00:44:18,580 --> 00:44:25,140
So I'm going to watch it. Okay. Yeah. I could watch that one too. I always think like, I

1069
00:44:25,140 --> 00:44:29,540
got to give Lynette some, like if I'm watching something, I kept meaning to make you listen

1070
00:44:29,540 --> 00:44:33,300
to this podcast so you can talk about it. See if you knew this lady, right? Right. Right.

1071
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:38,660
The Joel Blackstone lady. But then, you know, I forget. Yeah. Sorry. But I knew the Jenaer one.

1072
00:44:38,660 --> 00:44:45,220
Yes. I knew that. But I'm going to listen to the Blackstone sisters. It's so weird when, um,

1073
00:44:45,220 --> 00:44:51,460
like this happened with the Karen, whatever story. Oh, Karen read, there's an update about that.

1074
00:44:51,460 --> 00:44:59,380
What? Well, there's, there's a lot going on. So Alan Jackson, her lawyer is going to be

1075
00:44:59,380 --> 00:45:05,060
representing her in the civil trial because she's getting sued by the O'Keeves. But apparently,

1076
00:45:05,060 --> 00:45:11,460
it's he's he was interviewed on some talk show and the lawyer you know is this Greek lawyer.

1077
00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:16,180
He's really cute and he's on YouTube and he breaks, he's a lawyer. So he breaks down, he broke down,

1078
00:45:16,180 --> 00:45:22,660
Karen, read everything. Um, and he said in that it looks like they found so much corruption

1079
00:45:22,660 --> 00:45:28,020
from the commissioner all the way through all the cops. There's a lot of dirty stuff that happened

1080
00:45:28,020 --> 00:45:35,540
and there looks like they might sue the Norfolk County, whatever for, you know, for what they

1081
00:45:35,540 --> 00:45:41,220
for like corruption, basically. And there's like, there's emails like the commissioner

1082
00:45:41,220 --> 00:45:47,220
changed his email to a private email, talking about the Karen Reed case, talking about, you know,

1083
00:45:47,220 --> 00:45:52,580
the witnesses and blah, blah, blah. And it looks like they're going to they have a strong case

1084
00:45:52,580 --> 00:45:57,860
to go after them against the police department. Yeah. The box is like the,

1085
00:45:57,860 --> 00:46:06,020
the, yeah, the county, whatever. Yeah. The commissioner, the judge. I believe it. Yeah.

1086
00:46:06,020 --> 00:46:11,380
I still think she hit him, but I sorry everybody. Oh my God. But there is definitely believed there

1087
00:46:11,380 --> 00:46:16,980
was major corruption. Yes. And there is a YouTube video. There's this clip, this guy called

1088
00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:21,860
micro dots that does a lot of, I'm sure a lot of Karen Reed people know what I'm talking about. But

1089
00:46:21,860 --> 00:46:29,620
it's a YouTube channel and he visually breaks down shit and he just put out a 45 minute doc

1090
00:46:29,620 --> 00:46:36,260
about the corruption and how it goes way back before Karen Reed, how one of those Albert brothers

1091
00:46:36,260 --> 00:46:42,180
killed somebody drunk driving and they covered that up quickly. Oh. All the way to yes. So there's

1092
00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:46,820
a lot you see all how like people are like, how did everybody get involved? Like, oh, how did

1093
00:46:46,820 --> 00:46:52,420
there so many people would have to been blah, blah, blah, you know, but they explain how it started

1094
00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:57,780
deep before Karen Reed. Okay. What's this called? It's called micro dots on YouTube and it's a

1095
00:46:57,780 --> 00:47:03,380
fort, it's the recent video they put out 45 minutes. Okay. It's really worth watching. It's really

1096
00:47:03,380 --> 00:47:12,660
interesting. All right. Yeah. But should I tell you this thing this, it's not even like that

1097
00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:17,380
exciting and it's not something I'm watching, but it was this parenting article that I read. It's

1098
00:47:17,380 --> 00:47:24,260
just really quick. Yeah. Yeah. Actually. Yeah. Okay. So it's just kind of funny. Let me find it.

1099
00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:29,780
All right. This was in people magazine, but it's why one mom refuses to live by son's

1100
00:47:29,780 --> 00:47:38,180
nap schedule, by trending baby products in protest of quote, modern parenting. And I just don't like

1101
00:47:38,180 --> 00:47:45,860
stuff like this. And she can't mean because it's like, it's not that groundbreaking to not buy a

1102
00:47:45,860 --> 00:47:52,740
bunch of trendy baby stuff. Right. And then also they always pick one battle that you're like,

1103
00:47:52,740 --> 00:48:00,820
okay, I'll tell you. Okay. When Aubrey, Matthews, Mathesius found out she was, okay,

1104
00:48:00,820 --> 00:48:05,540
pop up ad hope. I hate that. Expecting her first child. She was immediately overwhelmed,

1105
00:48:05,540 --> 00:48:10,740
not by morning sickness or cravings, but by the intense hyper curated routines of modern

1106
00:48:10,740 --> 00:48:16,820
motherhood she saw in TikTok. So this is like a fight back against TikTok. Okay. The constant pressure

1107
00:48:16,820 --> 00:48:23,540
to be perfectly scheduled, endlessly stimulated and always on made her question whether she even wanted

1108
00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:29,380
to become a mother. Okay. So far, I get it. I get like, this is something that you and I fight

1109
00:48:29,380 --> 00:48:36,340
against. Let's be no getters. Instead of succumbing to the anxiety, the 27 year old from Glendale,

1110
00:48:36,340 --> 00:48:43,140
Arizona turned to the older women in her life. Us seeking wisdom from a time before she felt

1111
00:48:43,140 --> 00:48:48,900
parenting became a performance. Their grounded, simple advice helped her embrace what she now calls

1112
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:56,420
the low maintenance mom mindset. Okay. Sounds good so far, right? Like you're like, okay, yeah,

1113
00:48:56,420 --> 00:49:02,340
like you don't have to overdo it. Like, you know, the thing that's that's that's that's that's that I

1114
00:49:02,340 --> 00:49:07,460
it's kind of glaring to me. She's 27 years old. She's on TikTok and that's giving her a lot of

1115
00:49:07,460 --> 00:49:11,780
pressure. That's poisoning her brain, right? Well, all these like perfect. She's not watching the

1116
00:49:11,780 --> 00:49:16,260
right ones. I watch mothers on TikTok that don't give a fuck. They're like us. Go join the, I don't

1117
00:49:16,260 --> 00:49:22,660
care. Yes. There you go. Okay, but here's where, okay, so blah, blah, blah means cutting out excessive

1118
00:49:22,660 --> 00:49:28,020
baby products, not over complicating simple tasks. Yes, yes, yes. I'm with you on this. Okay.

1119
00:49:28,020 --> 00:49:36,420
She says, due to the hormonal, whatever, I was adapting or adopting the anxious attachment style

1120
00:49:36,420 --> 00:49:44,340
parenting that most millennial and Gen Z moms live by. Okay, still with you. However, she learned that

1121
00:49:44,340 --> 00:49:50,740
like the older women's, the older moms way is better than the modern way. So I adopted their principles

1122
00:49:50,740 --> 00:49:56,180
and found mental, physical and spiritual freedom for myself and the baby. Okay, but here's the problem.

1123
00:49:56,180 --> 00:50:05,940
So she says whether, okay, she's talking about her, her new things whether it was the importance of

1124
00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:11,700
transitioning a baby to their own crib or being comfortable with trusted babysitters. The advice

1125
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:17,620
help prevent the kind of overdependence that can overwhelm both both mom and child. Okay, so she

1126
00:50:17,620 --> 00:50:25,780
goes on, but then here's her big things. Her non-negotiables are clear. She like and basically she's all

1127
00:50:25,780 --> 00:50:32,100
about sleep training. Okay, not I'm trying to find this one that was like the most annoying.

1128
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:40,180
Sleep training is a must in her home. Unnecessarily unnecessary baby products and then she says basically

1129
00:50:40,180 --> 00:50:46,260
that she won't give in to like if her kids want a nap at a certain time, like no, like she's

1130
00:50:46,260 --> 00:50:50,180
going to live her life and her kids can like sleep in the stroller or whatever while she's out at

1131
00:50:50,180 --> 00:50:57,300
coffee with her friends. And so I'm reading this and I'm like, well, that's all that is easy when you

1132
00:50:57,300 --> 00:51:04,900
have an easy baby. Exactly. Or one that can look. Right. Good luck. Thank you. So then, oh yeah,

1133
00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:10,420
one of the best examples of her approach is refusing to let her baby's nap schedule dictate

1134
00:51:10,420 --> 00:51:18,020
every part of her day because because you know, she wasn't going to miss out on life because a

1135
00:51:18,020 --> 00:51:23,860
nap was scheduled in 30 minutes, keeping her stuck at home. Instead, she created a flexible routine.

1136
00:51:23,860 --> 00:51:29,460
Blah, blah, blah, blah. Teaching my child to be adaptable gave everyone freedom. Well, first of all,

1137
00:51:29,460 --> 00:51:35,940
ever met like an autistic kid. I mean, I love these people that are like, why is everybody

1138
00:51:35,940 --> 00:51:42,340
working so hard when like, it's so easy, you guys joke son, you guys, because it's so much simpler.

1139
00:51:42,340 --> 00:51:48,740
Okay. So the comments though are very funny. Oh my gosh. But here's what she says due to her

1140
00:51:48,740 --> 00:51:55,620
amazing parenting. Her son is adaptable, confident, and enjoys being with others. He sleeps a solid

1141
00:51:55,620 --> 00:52:01,140
eight to 10 hours each night. And more importantly, both she and her child live free from the constant

1142
00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:07,540
anxiety and fear that comes with modern parenting. I can still love my kid and have boundaries.

1143
00:52:07,540 --> 00:52:12,180
She says, just because I don't co-sleep with my child doesn't mean I don't love my child.

1144
00:52:12,180 --> 00:52:18,180
Anyway, she's just still sorry for her child really padding herself on the back. And she's

1145
00:52:18,180 --> 00:52:24,100
really encouraging moms to basically do what she does. Well, it sounds, yeah, it sounds great.

1146
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:29,940
But it's not reality. Your kid is going to have to sleep when they want, when they want to sleep,

1147
00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:33,300
what are you going to do? Smack them, keep them up because you want to go on a lunch date.

1148
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:40,020
What the, I mean, I mean, I remember learning this really the hard way, which was my whole book,

1149
00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:44,980
"City Cups" or not for Shardinay was about like, fuck all the advice. Right. Like you have to do what

1150
00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:49,540
works for you. So you could have all the advice in the world about breastfeeding if it's not working

1151
00:52:49,540 --> 00:52:53,940
for you, it's not working for you. Exactly. Right. Don't allow yourself to feel like you're

1152
00:52:53,940 --> 00:53:00,340
poisoning your child with formula, you know, that kind of thing. But yeah, this is kind of to me the

1153
00:53:00,340 --> 00:53:05,940
opposite of that. But then so the advice is somebody wrote, who cares? Please stop using TikTok.

1154
00:53:05,940 --> 00:53:11,780
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Get off a TikTok poisoning you. This person wrote, she's clearly

1155
00:53:11,780 --> 00:53:17,220
never dealt with collic for months with a baby that's nursing every 90 minutes. All those added

1156
00:53:17,220 --> 00:53:24,900
comforts aren't just for the baby. Coast sleeping lasts for different amounts of time of time based on

1157
00:53:24,900 --> 00:53:31,940
culture. She's pretty narrow-minded. And then, yes, she is. And then this one writes something kind of

1158
00:53:31,940 --> 00:53:38,820
more sad, but hold on, there was wonderful. And then these people are like, this person goes, dang,

1159
00:53:38,820 --> 00:53:46,500
you shifted nap time by 30 minutes, how unscheduled of you. And sleep training too. You're an unscheduling

1160
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:57,140
pro. I thought that was really funny. That is funny. Yeah. Anyway, most people were just like,

1161
00:53:57,140 --> 00:54:01,140
what are you talking about? Like, do what works for you? Yeah. Don't lecture other people.

1162
00:54:01,140 --> 00:54:07,460
And most people magazine doing interviewing is not case. Social media. Yeah. You know how it is. Yeah.

1163
00:54:07,460 --> 00:54:15,140
All right. Listen, we have a couple more shout outs to do. Adam learner, Adam's got a car.

1164
00:54:16,180 --> 00:54:22,820
Probably already have my car by the time you're listening to this. He, we told him what we wanted.

1165
00:54:22,820 --> 00:54:26,980
He figured out where he could get the best deal. Well, he told us what the deals were.

1166
00:54:26,980 --> 00:54:34,900
Right. Told us how he heard Mercedes and the VW ID4s were the electric cars or where these massive

1167
00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:38,980
deals are. But yeah, hurry up because the rebates are going away. Anyway, and then he just handled it

1168
00:54:38,980 --> 00:54:45,220
for us. It's the he's the best. Yeah, really is. Adam's got a car.com. Yeah. And Mike Gerstein is a plumber

1169
00:54:45,220 --> 00:54:50,420
and works the same way, basically, but if you're in the Maricopa County area in Arizona,

1170
00:54:50,420 --> 00:54:57,540
you can give them a call. You can go to drains surgeons with a S A Z like Arizona.com is numbers

1171
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there is email. Get ahold of them. If you mentioned F.C.O.L. You'll get $99 off the

1172
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sewer line inspection. And if you're not in the area and you have plumbing questions, give

1173
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them a call. It's for free. He'll talk you through it. Awesome. And then also if you're planning a trip,

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why not use Christine Black with waves and wonder travel? She is her Instagram is travel with Christine

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B. So you can check her out or her email is Christina waves and wonder travel. Our friend my buddy,

1176
00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:37,060
Jacob Crowley is giving his shout for the ACLU. Thank you, Jacob, which is doing so much. I talked

1177
00:55:37,060 --> 00:55:43,220
about that movie, Heitens Crutney a couple weeks ago, which was about a lawyer for the ACLU fighting

1178
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for trans kids. They need it right now. Yeah. And then also Fern Candle. That's our friend Kelsey.

1179
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She makes delicious smelling soy candles like tobacco sage and lavender sandalwood. Go check her out

1180
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at ferncandle.com or on Instagram at ferncandle. All right. And that's it. Well, thank you guys. We

1181
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love you. Yep. You're a parent now. Don't eff it up.

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