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It's the weird alphabet.

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I am the sub-shadowing patterns and the Christ.

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Today's song, The World Rides.

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I accidentally said the word "crimes" and I don't know why I did that.

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It's the word "crimes."

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It's the word "crime" that said,

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Hey everybody, you are listening to the Weird Alphabet podcast.

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It's the World's Only podcast that knows how to say words and their crimes.

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We're talking about every Weird Al song in Alphabetical Order.

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Today, we are joined by a guest that I'm so excited we get to have on the show Longtime

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listeners.

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We'll know this name.

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We have our friend Tyler Harper on the show, Tyler.

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Welcome, welcome.

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Thank you.

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I'm proud to be here.

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Absolutely.

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Tyler is one of our long-term listeners, long-term supporters, the first person to subscribe

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to our Patreon, which we are ever, ever so grateful for.

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Absolutely.

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I'm very glad that we can bring you on the show.

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I don't know what ever made you give money to this nonsense of reproduction, but I am

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forever grateful for it.

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I think that's just this.

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It's nonsense.

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So I really do support that.

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You have no idea.

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You could have invested that money into Bitcoin.

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No, it's okay.

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We're a better financial decision than Bitcoin.

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Absolutely.

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Tyler, I want to hear a little bit about your Weird Al fandom.

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Do you remember the first Weird Al song you ever heard?

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I have thought about this a lot.

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I don't remember the first song I ever heard.

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I grew up in a smaller town that was really far away from everywhere until I was in my

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teenage years.

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We had country music radio stations and that was it.

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I know how that goes.

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Same.

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It was difficult to hear anything.

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So my parents, who both pretty big dorks, they would sing these like another one rides

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busts, another one rides busts and addicted to spuds or whatever it was.

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They'd always sing little jingles of Weird Al songs.

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Once I finally got to hear the actual versions of it, I loved it, but I think Alapalooza would

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have been the album where I came into it like, oh, this is awesome.

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That was really cool.

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Yeah, just for my own vanity.

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I'm really curious how you first found out about us and got into listening to this podcast.

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Well, the thing is with podcasts for me, I drive to work and back for about 40 minutes each

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way and then I have some side gigs where I'm either delivering or I'm shoveling snow

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or that sort of thing.

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It's all with a little earpiece in my ear and so it's all audible.

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I hardly ever do video stuff.

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That's why podcasts are huge for me.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I was listening to Douglas Movies.

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He had the guys from Star Wars Minute on.

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Star Listening Star Wars Minute, they mentioned that they had an alphabetical podcast.

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I started listening to alphabetical, kind of on a tangent.

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I mentioned that, oh, there's a group that's doing a Weird Al, one of these.

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I went, oh, I'll search that out.

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I always go after the music that I enjoy.

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That's how I found you guys and listened to those great first 50 episodes.

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That gives me a question that I would like to ask.

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How did you survive through the great Fire of War?

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Well, I emailed you guys numerous times about that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Or you, the one who said he would give us batteries, willingly.

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Yes, willingly.

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I was more than willing to send you batteries and like, please just that beeping sound make

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it stop.

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And the timeline for this show being created as well.

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I was listening to Douglas Movies and then heard Star Wars Minute guys on there and then

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heard alphabetical and of course immediately I was like, I want to do this for Weird Al.

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And then about 100 episodes in, we figured out how to do it about Weird Al and not actively

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terrible.

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Now we're only like semi-tero.

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It has been a really cool learning experience and it's really cool that anybody would be

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listening to the four year journey of this podcast.

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Let alone at the beginning.

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It is a very cool feeling that I hope I always feel like it's incredible that anybody would

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ever listen to us.

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And it's cool to be on that length of a journey with you guys.

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There's a number of podcasts that I've listened to and I swear that I know these people so

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You guys live in the Valley, right?

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We're all over the place at this point.

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We live in LA.

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Two of us live in the Valley.

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I lived in the Valley for a couple of years when I was younger and mentioning like North

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Hollywood or Brewera and there's things like that.

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I'm like, oh, I know that place or I know that street.

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Things like that that make me connect me to LA too.

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That whole feeling you know people, I mean that's what I love about podcasts as well.

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And I also love with Star Wars Minute, their fan community and I love that.

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I get to interact with Tyler Harper a whole bunch in the Star Wars Minute Facebook group,

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the Star Wars Minute Listener Society.

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And I know that because we got a little mention on alphabetical, we've got a decent number.

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We got a handful of people who are members of both communities and it's always cool to

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me how communities kind of feed into each other that way and kind of blend into each other

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and like you get opportunities to connect with people in different ways and over different

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things and you know, oh, you like this thing as well.

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I like that thing too.

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It spans whatever distance.

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It doesn't have to be the person you're in contact with physically, especially now.

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Nobody's in contact physically, but yeah, we don't even live in the same country and it's

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worked so quite nicely.

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Well, I think we should start getting into our song because there is a lot to talk about.

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Today we are talking about word crimes.

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This is of course a parody of blurred lines by Robin Thick featuring Ferel Williams

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and TI and this is of course off of Weird Al's 2014 album Man Dittori Fun.

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But what song did you all hear first?

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Michael, what did you hear first?

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Blurred Lines or Word Crimes?

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This song is playing everywhere.

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Blurred Lines, I hate it.

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Dan, what did you hear first?

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Blurred Lines or Word Crimes?

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I believe I heard blurred lines first.

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I just remember word crimes is being such a big deal though.

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Very glad that word crimes is kind of like eclipsed the original.

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Tyler, what did you hear first?

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Blurred Lines or Word Crimes?

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I heard blurred lines.

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I never heard any of the words to it.

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Like people would tell me, "That's a dirty song."

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I had no idea.

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I'm just like, "Oh, it's a knee-little rhythm."

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Andrew, what did you hear first?

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Blurred Lines or Word Crimes?

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I mean, my vision goes a little weird sometimes.

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That's what I thought.

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I definitely heard blurred lines first instead of word crimes.

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I think we were, or at least I was working at the Wax Museum

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when word crimes came out.

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And I'm pretty sure this was on the playlist

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in the gift store the whole time.

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This was the time when we were all working there.

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Which Wax Museum were you working at?

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Madame Tussaud Wax Museum in Hollywood, California.

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That's where we all met.

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Where is that the one on?

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Yep, right next to the next theater.

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Do you remember that episode of Conan

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where he sees his own Wax figure?

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Did you ever watch that?

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Or the video where Arnold Schwarzenegger

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is dressed up like the Terminator

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and scaring people at the Wax Museum.

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It's the same place.

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I was there that day when that happened.

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If you look up the clip of Conan,

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he's talking to somebody working there

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and that is our friend Adam who has been on this show

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a bunch whenever we're talking about game shows and stuff

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because he now writes for game shows.

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He was on for CNR and Lost Son, Jeffrey.

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Anyways, Blurred Lines, Word Crimes.

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Dan, you got some facts about blurred lines.

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There's probably not a lot to talk about with this song, right?

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It's pretty cut and dry.

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Yeah, it's pretty straightforward.

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They just came up with a song and no controversy came from it.

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Moving on then, I guess.

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We're in for quite a story.

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Blurred Lines was a single that was released on March 20, 2013

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and was part of Robin Thick's album, "Burred Lines"

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under the same name.

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The song was written by Robin Thick,

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Frel Williams, and Clifford Harris Jr. aka Ti.

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And it was produced by Frel.

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The song drew inspiration from Marvin Gaye's song,

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got to give it up.

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(upbeat music)

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♪ I used to know all you wanted ♪

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♪ I used to know all you wanted ♪

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And the song gathered a lot of success.

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It actually hit number one in the charts for over 25 countries.

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And it is considered one of the best-selling singles of all time

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by selling over 14.8 million singles.

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It was a incredibly successful song,

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which can stir up a few things.

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So the song did gather much controversy.

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The first being that the content of the song was viewed

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as encouraging rape culture.

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(upbeat music)

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From the title, "Burred Lines" to the lyrics, I know you want it.

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The song was looked at as misogynists

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and objectifying towards women.

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And the music video did not help that statement at all.

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Nope.

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And Robin think being Robin thick probably

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didn't help that statement at all either.

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No, not one bit.

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So in the UK, in over 20 universities,

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they banned that song from being played at any student events.

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In Marshfield, Wisconsin,

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the head coach of the Marshfield High School dance team

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was fired after her class,

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danced to the song during a half-time show.

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Isn't this the same song that Miley Cyrus performed with him

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with Robin thick and like twerked on him?

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I think so.

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That image is smart for me for the rest of my life.

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So Robin thick tried to defend the song on the today's show.

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(laughing)

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When we made the song, we had nothing but the most respect

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for women and I mean, I've been with the same woman

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since I was a teenager.

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So for us, we were just trying to make a funny song.

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And sometimes the lyrics can get misconstrued

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when you're just trying to put people in the dance floor

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and have a good time.

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But we had no idea that it would stir this much controversy

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in that kind of story.

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We only had the best intentions.

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When you looked at it later, did you kind of get

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what people were saying?

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Yeah, I mean, but I think that's what great art does,

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is it's supposed to stir conversation.

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It's supposed to make us talk about what's important

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and what are the relationship between men and women are.

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But if you listen to the lyrics, it says that man is not your maker.

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It's actually a feminist movement in itself.

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It's saying that women and men are equals as animals

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and as power in power.

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And we're all supposed to just,

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it doesn't matter whether you're a good girl or a bad girl.

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You know, you can still have a good time.

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Sure it is, Robin.

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Thank you.

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He also claimed that the song was about his wife

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who divorced him in 2014.

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Oh, my God.

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It wasn't long after that an old fellow part.

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Frel Williams stated that what would be controversial about it?

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"You don't need no papers," meaning,

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"You are not a possession."

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The man is not your maker,

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meaning that he is not God,

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nor can he produce children or women for that matter.

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He's a man.

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So he definitely did not make you,

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which I was trying to say was,

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that man was trying to domesticate you,

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but you don't need no papers.

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Let me liberate you.

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Oh boy.

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(laughing)

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But it was misconstrued.

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When you pull back and look at the entire song,

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the point is she's a good girl

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and even good girls want to do things.

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And that's where you have blurred lines.

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She expresses it in dancing because she's a good girl.

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People who are agitated just want to be mad

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and accept their own opinion.

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We got a kick out of making people dance,

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and that was the intention.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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And that's in the music video.

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Well, that's just the lyrics for one.

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Then there's the music video that goes with it.

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There are two versions of this provocative music video.

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There's the very obvious difference is

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between the two of them are the models, Emily Radikowski,

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Ellie Evans and Jesse M. Bengiew.

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They were topless throughout the video

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and then the clean version they were fully clothed,

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even though when they put out the topless version,

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there was no age restriction on that at first.

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(laughing)

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Welcome to you too.

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Here's some new boobs.

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Here we go.

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(laughing)

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But here's the big part.

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And this one I thought was pretty interesting

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because in August of 2013,

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the family of Marvin Gaye and Bridgeport music

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sued the three songwriters for copyright infringement

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due to the fact that blurred lines sounded so similar

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to Marvin Gaye's song got to give it up.

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And this is interesting.

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I actually heard part of the song, "I Have It Cued Up."

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We have a clip?

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We're gonna play it for you guys.

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There we go.

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(upbeat music)

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But you kinda hear that in the intro.

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Yeah, definitely the rhythm is like the exact same.

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And the instruments even down to like,

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the pops and like, the almost sounds like there's like

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a bottle involved at some point.

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Yeah.

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I wouldn't say it's legally close enough.

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And this is where a lot of this unravels here

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because the song was claimed by Robin Thick

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to be an inspiration of that song.

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Like he actually said in interviews,

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and this was a way for him to like help sell the song that,

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this Marvin Gaye song was part of the inspiration for this song,

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but not supposed to be like a blatant rip off of it.

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Rich poor down the other hand,

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they were suing them because they had illegally sampled

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Funkadelic song, "Sexy Ways."

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♪ We'll make it ♪

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♪ Just wanna say ♪

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♪ I wanna know what I'm doing ♪

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♪ I know you wanna know ♪

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During the trial, they brought up a similar trial,

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which was George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord"

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and the similarity to "He's So Fine" by the chiffon's,

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which ruled that Harrison did plagiarize the song.

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Although later Harrison did buy the rights to "He's So Fine,"

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which I find hilarious.

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(laughing)

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- Benilla Ice did the same thing with under pressure.

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He bought the rights to under pressure,

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so he didn't have to pay royalties.

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- Jeez.

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- "Frell Williams" gave the argument

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that they were two completely different songs

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stating, "Just simply go to the piano and play the two.

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"One's minor and one's major.

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"They're not even in the same key."

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The family of Marvin Gaye argued

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that the song was copying the sound

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in the feel of God to give it up.

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So "Frell Williams" and "Rabin Thick" were found

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to have infringed the copyright.

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That was the conclusion of this.

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Although TI was not found liable

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because he only contributed one verse to the song.

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So he got out of it.

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And Marvin Gaye's estate was then entitled

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to 50% of the royalties of the song

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for as long as it exists, which is nuts.

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In September of 2014,

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the Hollywood reporter released files

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relating to a deposition in the case

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that said "Rabin Thick" was high on "Vicaten"

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in "Alcohol" when he showed up to the studio

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in that "Frell" head, "The Beat"

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and he wrote almost every single part of the song.

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So he tried getting out of this

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by claiming that he was unprofessional the whole time.

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- Oh, yes.

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- Which also contributed to the divorce as well.

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- Yeah.

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It was known that Thick liked to embellish the truth

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and would claim more ownership to the song

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than he really contributed.

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"Frell" did have this to say,

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"Rabin's is a friend of mine

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and I'm not trying to belittle his character

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in any way, shape or form,

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but this is what happens every day in our industry.

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People are made to look like they have much more authorship

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in the situation than they actually do."

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In March of 2015, Marvin Gaye's family

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was awarded $7.4 million in damages

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in copyright infringement,

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which caused a stir in the music industry

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basis of the punk rock band, "The Vandals"

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and "Entertainment Lawyer" Joe Escalante

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said that the jury's verdict must have been based

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on emotion because it is not based on any notion

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of what is protectable under copyright law today.

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Keith Urban came out to say,

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"My initial reaction from it, I was shocked, honestly,

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seems more like a sound and a feel and a style

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and a genre and an era, none of which can be copyrighted."

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Weird Owl even piped in and said that the ruling

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was a raw deal and that the song is more of a Marvin Gaye

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pastiche.

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In August of 2016, thick Williams and TI,

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they appealed the judgment to the ninth circuit court

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of appeals.

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Many musicians supported the appeal stating that the verdict

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in this case threatens to punish songwriters

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for creating new music that is inspired by prior works.

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In March of 2018, the ninth circuit affirmed

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the district court's finding of copyright infringement,

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so they did not change any of the decision

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that was made by the lower court.

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So they just said, nope, you're infringing on copyright.

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And the last thing that I'm gonna give you guys,

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there was three different statements,

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which I thought was pretty interesting.

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There was a statement that came out from Frel, TI,

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and Robin Thicc about the final hearing, saying that,

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while we respect the judicial process,

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we are extremely disappointed in the ruling made today,

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which sets a horrible precedent for music

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and creativity going forward.

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Blurred lines was created from the heart and minds

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of Frel, Robin, and TI, and not taking from anyone

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or anywhere else.

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We are reviewing the decision, considering our options,

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and you will hear more from us soon about this matter.

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Then we have Jan Gay, which is Marvin Gay's ex-wife,

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and then the estate there, they had this to say,

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this is a wonderful recognition of Marvin's creativity

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and the lasting value of one of his greatest songs.

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Frel and Robin should have done the right thing

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by licensing Marvin's composition and crediting him.

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This is a victory for the rights of all musicians.

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And then there was another judge who piped in,

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her name was Jacqueline Nguyen.

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She wasn't actually part of the case,

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but she looked over the case,

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and she cited more on the side of with Frel

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and all these other musicians as well, saying that,

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the majority allows the gaze to accomplish

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what no one has before.

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Copyright a musical style.

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Blurred lines and got to give it up are not objectively similar.

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They differ in melody, harmony, and rhythm.

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Yet by refusing to compare the two works,

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the majority establishes a dangerous precedent

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that strikes a devastating blow to future musicians

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and composers everywhere.

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Like this came out in 2018.

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Because of this, this could be looked upon as an example

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for future songs, especially if you have songs

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where they're sampling from other songs as well,

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or wanting to draw inspiration from other songs.

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Like this, I believe that this is extremely dangerous

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for the creativity and the further notion

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of the music industry.

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So I can see that.

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Interesting.

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I honestly don't know how to feel about that, all of that.

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Because I definitely see how it could be dangerous for music.

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But at the same time, it does feel kind of nice to know

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that like, you know, blurred lines is--

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It's kind of taken down a peg.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's just the thing you wanted to go down,

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but go ahead.

461
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Yeah, yeah.

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It's fine.

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Hedges stayed at the controversy of the lyrics,

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the university's banning it from student functions.

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And even people attacking the music video,

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it should have stopped there.

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But like, I can't agree with the court here.

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I can't agree with this judgment.

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I don't know.

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I am certainly no expert in music and anything.

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I want you to send precedent in something.

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It's-- that's a big thing in law.

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Like, it all goes back to that.

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So--

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah.

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If Weird Al is even on the fence about it,

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where it's like, that just seems a little steep.

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And he's the man that's literally filled up

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the rest of his albums besides parodies.

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They're all past dishes.

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Like, that is something that could affect him in the long run.

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Like, that means if Weird Al did a style past dish of somebody

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and they decided to sue, like, they could have a case.

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Devo could have a case for saying, oh, this is too--

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Dare to be stupid is too similar to--

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Or a trap exam if the estate of Prince went after Weird Al,

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judging by this, they would win.

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They'd have it.

490
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Yeah.

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Does what Weird Al does as a past dish still fall under parity?

492
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Well, that's the real question.

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I think-- I don't think it evolves into parity unless it truly

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is like taking the original song and adapting it.

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Yeah, I guess.

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I mean, you could take a band like the Ramones

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and they could just essentially sue every single punk band

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because they all sound the same.

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That would be the least punk thing to do

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to go after all the other punk bands.

501
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Yeah.

502
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Or if you took like a type of YouTube video,

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like, people reacting to someone or something

504
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and then going after people for doing the same type of video?

505
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Yeah, OK.

506
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,800
I see what you're getting at.

507
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Yeah.

508
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,720
Let's just talk about Word Crime song.

509
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Because I definitely want to talk about the amazing song

510
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of Weird Crime.

511
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It's our superior song.

512
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This song is amazing and lives up to its reputation, right?

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It's incredibly--

514
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Arguably, this is the song that makes the album.

515
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Tacky's like the one that commercially was the best bet.

516
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,640
But Word Crime is the song that is like the title track,

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or should be the title track of the album.

518
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,160
Yeah, this song is fantastic.

519
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I've talked about this a bunch.

520
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,160
And recently, I talked about this style of song

521
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,240
when I was on We're All Yank of X Recently for Virus Alert.

522
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,880
Talking about, I love songs that are just lists of things.

523
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,720
And Weird Out has a really amazing way of increasing

524
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,000
the ridiculousness, but in a way that it keeps it being funny.

525
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,400
This song is just a masterclass at writing lyrics.

526
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,720
The way he's able to do the rhyming with all of this stuff

527
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,120
and the way he's able to cram all of this massive grammar

528
00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:57,880
lesson into one song, it is in credible.

529
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,880
[MUSIC PLAYING]

530
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,680
Al, I know has been known for never making a typo ever

531
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,200
for writing chromatical errors.

532
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,360
He edited Nathan Raven's book.

533
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:26,520
Yeah.

534
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,720
And most of it was just chromatical errors.

535
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,560
And he's like, you don't want to check the information.

536
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,960
And he's like, yeah, I trust you.

537
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,840
Yeah, that's fine.

538
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,040
I was just reading Nathan Raven's article

539
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,760
on his website about this song and saying how, like,

540
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,080
this is one of the few times the character that Al is playing

541
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,000
in the song is Al.

542
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,960
Like, this is actually a peak into who Al is

543
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,160
and carrying this much about grammar.

544
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,160
It's still like an animated over-the-top version,

545
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,320
like, cynical Al.

546
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,120
Yeah, yeah.

547
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,240
But it's still Al at the core of it.

548
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,640
I think language is a tricky thing.

549
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,080
And the way we talk about language is a tricky thing.

550
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,120
I do want to say something about the idea of, like,

551
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:06,760
the grammar Nazi quote unquote.

552
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,560
I do think there is a level of being

553
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,120
crazy about grammar that is too far.

554
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,760
And I don't think Weird Al goes too far in this song.

555
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,720
There's a lot of people who talk about how the English language

556
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,200
is sacred or whatever that are doing so in a way

557
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,960
that doesn't allow language to change when language does change

558
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,920
and should change.

559
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,720
And we should allow that facilitation of change.

560
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,400
But I don't think that's what Weird Al is doing in this song.

561
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,720
I think the list of things that he's talking about

562
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,960
it's mostly focused on, like, the type of things

563
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,880
that people would type out on the internet

564
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,160
when they're not paying attention.

565
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,800
They're not caring, especially, like,

566
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,680
this is still early enough internet that people were still

567
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,080
using letters in their tweets instead of typing out the whole word.

568
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,000
I mean, once Twitter expanded their amount of characters,

569
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,480
then you saw much better grammar after that.

570
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,440
It's the type of thing where there are some of those grammar

571
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,200
Nazis who would complain about the word woke and say that,

572
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,520
like, oh, woke is not grammatically correct.

573
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,960
And it's like, the point is to not be grammatically correct.

574
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,360
The point is that this is a new word with a new meaning

575
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:13,000
that we are creating here.

576
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,360
And that's the type of thing that, like, Al is clearly not doing.

577
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:22,160
Or when Al has a line in here saying, you'd better slow down

578
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,640
and use the right pronouns.

579
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,480
[MUSIC - "I am more on it, you better slow down,

580
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,000
and use the right pronouns."

581
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,440
You know, this is something that I feel like is part of the

582
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,840
grammar debate when it comes to the lives and identities

583
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,360
of trans folks where there's a lot of people who are like,

584
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:43,160
you can't use they them because that's a plural.

585
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,160
First of all, it's not always been a plural.

586
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,800
There is plenty of evidence that it's been used for singular.

587
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,400
I was taught in conservative Alaska that if you see somebody

588
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,400
at a distance where you don't know the gender of them,

589
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,720
use they or them, Al is saying, like, hey, slow down

590
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,120
and use the right pronoun, not trying to say what the right pronoun is.

591
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:08,680
It is an acknowledgement of language is the agreement that we kind of all

592
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,600
make together on how to communicate accurately.

593
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,760
It doesn't feel like Al is saying you have to live by the strict

594
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,960
certain set of rules.

595
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,960
And more like, we got to agree on the best way to do this

596
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,480
so that way we can actually understand each other and actually,

597
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,080
like, be the most effective at communicating.

598
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,800
I don't know. Maybe it's just because it's pride and there's all

599
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,280
that stuff going on right now that that line specifically stuck out to me.

600
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,640
But it makes sense as well, like, weird Al worked with Wendy Carlos

601
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,240
so early on in his career.

602
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,680
He's going to be the type of person that wants to make sure to be

603
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,640
allied to trans folks, I think.

604
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,120
I don't know. Maybe I'm reading into that line, but that's what it seems to me.

605
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:50,840
No, I like that. That's a great interpretation of that.

606
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:57,040
Also, I love that in that explanation, the amount of times the David said,

607
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,240
um,

608
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:04,240
but that's the other great thing about this is that clearly this is all

609
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,880
the man how you write in grammar.

610
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,000
It's not it's not criticizing the way you talk.

611
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,360
You can mess things up when you talk all you want.

612
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:13,840
No, I cannot.

613
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,920
I can literally mess up whenever I want.

614
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,000
You know, as you were talking about like the grammar,

615
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,800
Nazi person or somebody who's very on it, I mean,

616
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,880
you're almost explaining the things that kind of bug me in language.

617
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,080
A lot of it.

618
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,960
Because you say language evolves the changes for me,

619
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,680
as long as it doesn't devolve, we're okay.

620
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,240
Yeah, as we're recording this, I think it's today.

621
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,960
There's like some new story about your regardless now has another definition

622
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,840
in the dictionary that it can also mean regardless.

623
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,280
And that is something that's like, no, no, no, no,

624
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,440
your regardless should mean your regardless.

625
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,040
And regardless, shouldn't mean regardless.

626
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,160
And literally can mean figuratively.

627
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,400
It has to be literally.

628
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,320
Inflammable and flammable mean the same thing.

629
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,880
That's confusing.

630
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,400
That is something that I definitely agree with.

631
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,200
I guess it's like, there definitely is a problem that especially

632
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,000
as communication went online with language devolving.

633
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,360
I don't think it's all language.

634
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,000
And I think that everything in this song is like,

635
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,920
yeah, this is absolutely something that should be called out.

636
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,160
Oversight.

637
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,320
Oversight can either mean to watch over something

638
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,360
and make sure that you know exactly what's going on with it

639
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,560
or it can mean to have no idea what's going on.

640
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,600
Absolutely.

641
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,280
And I love that.

642
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,440
Because the English language is a jerk.

643
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,360
The English language is pretty terrible.

644
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,960
Like I love saying sentences like, the English language is tough,

645
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,080
but it can be learned through tough, thorough thought though.

646
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,080
Yes.

647
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,040
And all of those words almost spelled the same.

648
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,240
Tannic can, can, can.

649
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,160
Is a sentence that makes sense.

650
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,520
Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo.

651
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Right. Yeah.

652
00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:01,000
There's a full, the if it is is this, if it is or something like that.

653
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000
[MUSIC PLAYING]

654
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:09,440
Hey, Michael.

655
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,680
Do you have any facts about the making of this song?

656
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,800
I do, because Dan was so focused on blurred lines that we--

657
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,280
But he completely forgot that we're doing a Weird Al podcast.

658
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,240
Legal documents are so exhausting.

659
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,560
Hey, I don't blame you, man.

660
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,240
Apparently, Weird Al pitched the idea of this parody

661
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,240
to Robin Thick without writing it.

662
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,920
So this is one of the few instances where he

663
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,880
went out of his way to call up Robin and kind of just

664
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,800
give him a basic pitch.

665
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,160
And it wasn't even like a specific idea.

666
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,480
Originally, he wasn't entirely sure exactly what the topic was going to be.

667
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,640
So he was like, it could be about traffic.

668
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,280
It could be about long lines, ideas spitting around,

669
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,800
absurd mimes, word rhymes, dessert lines, air lines.

670
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,920
Rhymes would be so easy to make a song, too.

671
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,000
Yeah, of course.

672
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,440
That's what Weird crimes eventually was the idea there.

673
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,440
Yeah, absolutely.

674
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,360
Within the song, he made a reference to Prince.

675
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,520
Although it's a friendly nudge, but saying,

676
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,480
Prince has allowed to break the rules here.

677
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,160
Prince is OK.

678
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,320
His name is a weird character.

679
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,560
He could do whatever he want.

680
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,240
And at the time, like, Prince was still alive.

681
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,280
He knew darn well that this was probably

682
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,720
going to end up on Prince's doorstep.

683
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:37,120
One thing that Al pointed out was that cunning linguist is what it was supposed to be.

684
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,800
Yeah, of course it was.

685
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,560
Al is a child friendly, but we know that he knows things.

686
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,960
We know what he means when he says he has to use the self-service pump.

687
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:55,640
This song, in particular for me, one of the concerts that we've actually enjoyed

688
00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:01,000
my wife and I going together, because sometimes our music tastes don't jive as well.

689
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,200
But one we really enjoyed going together was Weird Al, and it was the mandatory fun tour.

690
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,640
When this song came up, I don't think my wife had heard it before,

691
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,520
but she heard all these little grammar things in it.

692
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,240
And she was like, oh, and it was things that interested.

693
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,400
When we first met her started hanging out, we bonded over grammar and English in the funny

694
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,000
ways that the English language is.

695
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,520
That's why when I was given options for songs, I'm like, this song is one that I need to

696
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,520
talk about.

697
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:33,200
One of the great things that I learned from meeting my wife, the misuse of the word nauseus.

698
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,600
So nauseus is something that makes you nauseated.

699
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,000
Nauseated is the feeling.

700
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,080
So if you say, oh, I'm so nauseous.

701
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,280
If that person makes you sick, then they are nauseous.

702
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,920
But if that person feels bad, they should say, I feel nauseated.

703
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,920
I'm so nauseated.

704
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:53,240
It can be kind of funny when people go, oh, so nauseous, yes, you are.

705
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,880
Well, I will definitely make sure to correct my wife the next time she says nauseous and

706
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,760
then she'll be like, you are making me nauseous.

707
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,680
And that's, you know, it's a comeback that can come out of it.

708
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,920
We all know this can start wars.

709
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,720
I believe the War of 1812 was over grammar.

710
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,080
That reminds me a lot of healthy versus health full.

711
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,080
And I had an English teacher that actually told me the difference and now it drives me

712
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,080
insane.

713
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,960
Yeah, if someone says healthy food, that means the food itself is healthy.

714
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,360
But if you are talking about food that is healthy for you, then it's health full food.

715
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,160
And once you know it, you can't unknow it.

716
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,160
And it's always right there.

717
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,160
No, no, no, no.

718
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,160
You finish second day, hope you can tell.

719
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,360
It's not doing good or doing well.

720
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,240
The music video.

721
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,760
Jared Heather was the creator of it.

722
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:49,160
Jared Heather, he had done a similar music video for Jonathan Colton for the song Shopfac,

723
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,120
which is done in a very similar style.

724
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:58,560
And he did all of this through, well, I mean, the Adobe suite, but mostly through After Effects

725
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,520
is how we accomplished a lot of these.

726
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,080
It took him over 500 hours by himself in his own words.

727
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,840
He basically did 99% of the work and Al did 1%.

728
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,800
Well, I mean, Al wrote the song.

729
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,240
So I think that's a little bit more than 1%.

730
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:15,240
Okay, I guess.

731
00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:16,600
Take it up with Jared.

732
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,800
I'm calling you out.

733
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,960
So Jared was doing this video at the same time he was doing his full time job.

734
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:29,000
So the hours that he put into making this video were his free time.

735
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:34,280
It's insane to think about that one person animated the entire thing because when you look

736
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,640
back at that, there are several different types of animation styles.

737
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:44,420
Like the fact that he is so talented to utilize all of these different types of animation

738
00:34:44,420 --> 00:34:48,760
styles, like stop motion, everything, it's, it boggles my mind.

739
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:54,080
He put in almost twice as many hours into that as we have put into this.

740
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,440
Well, Dan's probably put about the same amount because of all the editing.

741
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,920
But if you were to look at just the process of recording it, if you put it into that perspective,

742
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:08,000
he put in about twice as much time as it would take to listen to our entire catalog of episodes.

743
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,600
That is a lot of hours.

744
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,600
That is insane.

745
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,240
Al was basically on the phone with him every step of the way.

746
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:17,840
Even came down to a point where he was trying to do like whiteboard animation at one point.

747
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,080
And he's like, "Oh, Al, like no, don't do whiteboard.

748
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,080
We already did whiteboard left."

749
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,080
We did that.

750
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,800
We already got a whiteboard one for this album.

751
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,800
Like, don't do it.

752
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,120
We got that for another music video.

753
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,120
We need chalkboard.

754
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,120
Sure.

755
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,120
Do that.

756
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,800
And also, there's like a trog door in the middle of all of this.

757
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,280
And I always thought, I'm like, "Oh, yes, trog door."

758
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,040
Like, I never really looked into it.

759
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:44,120
This might be a reference to StrongBad's rhythm and grammar, like, CD that he apparently was

760
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,120
trying to plug.

761
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:50,680
Oh, if he wants to be possessive, it's just like, "Yes, but if it's supposed to be a contraction,

762
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,760
then it's like, "Be a possibility.

763
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,080
It's a catalog."

764
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,040
I think that might have been a good nod.

765
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,920
But that also could have just been Jared being like, "I love StrongBad's.

766
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:05,760
I know this too other Easter eggs in their worth pointing out."

767
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,160
First of all, there's a 27 in there when it says, "Word crimes, 27th edition."

768
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,160
Right.

769
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,640
There's something about getting made fun of online and it shows a Reddit post from George

770
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,400
Newman, which is pretty great to see in there as well.

771
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,320
There's also the word "ironic," which is getting rained on, but that has to do with the

772
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:31,760
Lannis Morissette song, "Ironic" and "Rain on your wedding day."

773
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,320
David, that song, you listen to all the time.

774
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,320
Grise me insane.

775
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,320
Yeah.

776
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,320
It's not ironic.

777
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,240
That's just a coincidence.

778
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:44,560
That music video is so, so incredible.

779
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,880
I've always enjoyed kinetic typography type stuff, but this feels like kinetic typography

780
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,040
on a whole new level.

781
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:57,240
Or it's like, if you've ever seen any kinetic typography thing, this is like that turned

782
00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:01,200
up to not 11, turned up to like 50.

783
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,520
Like it is so well done.

784
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:08,440
It's so condensed with so many Easter eggs in there that you can almost find something new.

785
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:14,040
If you just go by frame by frame, you're going to find something interesting about all of

786
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,040
those.

787
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,640
Even like alluding to different things like when he says, "Learn your ABCs," and that's

788
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,480
done in the ABC logo.

789
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,480
It's like, really?

790
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,240
It doesn't really make sense that they would go towards that, but like, they did it anyways.

791
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:27,240
Yeah.

792
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,240
Like throwing up lost title in there.

793
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:30,240
Yeah.

794
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,840
Mandatory Fun has a lot of amazing music videos.

795
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,000
This might be my favorite music video from this album.

796
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,240
There's so many good ones.

797
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:40,280
Like, "Tacky is of course amazing.

798
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,840
I love the one for mission statement with the whiteboard animation.

799
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:51,400
I love the one for handy and house-ill-edious, but this music video is just something else."

800
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:58,760
It has the thoughts of white and nerdy, like, so much thought went into that music video,

801
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:04,440
and I feel like with this, even, like, you have more control over what is being seen and

802
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:11,080
not seen, and where they can make those subtle illusions for everything, every lyric that's

803
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,280
being put out there.

804
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,240
Like, every word that's put on the screen has a purpose for what it's doing.

805
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:20,800
Do we have any other thoughts on the song or the music video before we get into Dan's

806
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,800
deeper meaning?

807
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,800
We forgot to mention Clippy.

808
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,800
Clippy was in there.

809
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,800
Oh yeah, Clippy!

810
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:34,760
So for those who are not known for using Microsoft Word in the late 90s, early 2000s, you

811
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:40,600
may know that when you opened a Word document, there was always a little paperclip up in the

812
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,400
corner where if you spelled something wrong or something was grammatically wrong, instead

813
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,240
of us just getting those, I mean, we still got the red squiggly line underneath it, but

814
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:53,720
they would be Clippy right there to say, like, just spelled something wrong.

815
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:55,720
You would legit, like, tap on the screen.

816
00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:58,080
You'd be like, "Dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink."

817
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,520
And you could also, like, switch it out.

818
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:07,000
To think though that they had actually gone through the time to not only just make a good

819
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,880
word processor, you can make a good word processor.

820
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,640
You can put a lot of time and energy into that, but the fact that they even made an animated

821
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,040
character, and not just that, you could actually change which character it was.

822
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,240
It wasn't just Clippy, like, you could choose a dog, you could choose a cat, you could, there

823
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,800
was so many different characters there, but the fact that they went through all of that

824
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:33,040
animation and would recognize what you were writing and could actually react to it in

825
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:38,600
real time, like, that is insane and incredibly ambitious.

826
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:44,440
It's also insane to think about how that was the time where we still did not fully know

827
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,440
what people actually wanted out of their computer and what people actually wrote out of their

828
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,760
word processor.

829
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:56,240
And now, it seems like the goal of word processors is to be as simple to look at as possible.

830
00:39:56,240 --> 00:40:01,520
And yes, even if it can do a lot of things, to make that environment in the user interface

831
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:08,080
as clean as possible when in Clippy's time, it was not about being the most clean user interface.

832
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,880
But that's insane that they actually, like, they programmed that into the software.

833
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:13,880
Yeah, absolutely.

834
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,880
It's insane.

835
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,520
Man, I just imagine that is like somebody is like, baby, this is their child of programming

836
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,160
that they love so much.

837
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,880
And then it's like quickly became a joke that everybody insulted Clippy.

838
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:31,560
I feel so bad who ever put all of the work into Clippy and like, because it was impressive,

839
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,280
it was just unnecessary.

840
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,240
I feel like this song is from the mind of Clippy now.

841
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:37,240
Yeah.

842
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:38,240
That's just can't do that.

843
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:39,240
I can accept that.

844
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:44,480
I can accept the music video if it was just Clippy seeing the song.

845
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,680
Like you have other band members behind him that are like either like parts of a computer

846
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:55,040
or like other desk items as well, like pencils, playing the drums or whatnot.

847
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,960
And if he's seeing the song, I would have accepted that as a great music video and acceptable music

848
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,480
video for this.

849
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,880
One other thing that we do need to mention this song, the way that it teaches you grammar,

850
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,840
it also has a lot of its roots in school house rock.

851
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:21,240
For those of you who did not live in the 80s, 90s, I actually watched some of the schoolhouse

852
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:24,640
rock videos in school.

853
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,880
It was school house rock.

854
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,680
That was also really well done those songs.

855
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,040
Like we still know conjunction junction to this day.

856
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:42,040
I'm just a bill on Capitol Hill.

857
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,360
I'm just a bill.

858
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,320
Yes, I'm only a bill and I'm sitting here on Capitol Hill.

859
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:54,120
If you heard these songs, even just by saying those lyrics, not even singing them, you can

860
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,080
hear the melody in your head.

861
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,680
It's so incredibly well done.

862
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:08,280
The bill song has been parodied so many times.

863
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:14,760
Inspiring more kids to look back at those older videos just to be like, what was this about?

864
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,760
And then education.

865
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,160
Then there's anomaniax.

866
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,400
They've done multiple educational songs out there as well.

867
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,280
You have the listing of the states and there are capitals and you have the countries as

868
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,280
well.

869
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,280
Is that song go?

870
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,320
United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Peru, Republic Dominican, Cuba,

871
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,960
Caribbean, Haiti, El Salvador, Puerto Rico, Colombia, Venezuela, Honduras, Guiana, and

872
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,960
still.

873
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,640
Yeah, that's all you're going to get.

874
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,640
That's amazing.

875
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,560
Regardless, even if it was a clip that by memory on the spot, that's pretty incredible.

876
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,560
I know.

877
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,960
I definitely like fleshed it up a little bit.

878
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:50,960
Thank you.

879
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:51,960
All right.

880
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,920
Well, let's go to Dan's deeper meaning.

881
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,720
Dan, you got a deeper meaning for us?

882
00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:01,240
We mentioned before and we mentioned this with white and nerdy.

883
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:09,640
How obsessive L is when it comes to his lyrics and trying to find the right lyric and just

884
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,560
going over and over the phrasing of those lyrics.

885
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:18,360
And I'm sure going through stuff like that for every single song that he does, it just drives

886
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,880
him bonkers and insane.

887
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:27,640
He is a stickler for grammar because he had to have a crash course into like how

888
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:34,040
grammar is supposed to work and how effective grammar is and how you word something needs to

889
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,880
be precise in order to convey a certain idea.

890
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:44,960
So I believe that this song was a way for him to finally get that off of his chest.

891
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:53,800
Having this internal knowledge of the English language and how structured it is for us to

892
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,280
communicate effectively.

893
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,200
So I think that's the reason why.

894
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,200
Why?

895
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,920
All right.

896
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:07,800
And so that way Tyler can get closer to his wife.

897
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaking of wonderful sentiment, Andrew, you got a fun fact for us today.

898
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,520
Welcome to the fun fact, everybody.

899
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:22,560
My name is Andrew and I will be your humble servant of the abode that is the fun fact.

900
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,560
You might say Misa.

901
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,840
Misa, your humble servant.

902
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,440
Who's would you call a life debt?

903
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,440
I am George.

904
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,520
Anyway, the War of 1812.

905
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,480
Fun fact, actually didn't take place in 1812 at all.

906
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,720
Did it take place in the country of 1812?

907
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:38,720
No.

908
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:43,080
Was it like 18 people versus 12 people?

909
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,160
Also no, it took place in the 1700s.

910
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,200
Somewhere around like 1735 I think it was.

911
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:55,000
That's why it has a huge deal to do with language because during this time period a lot of people

912
00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,200
were questioning if the order that we had numbers in, is it really right?

913
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,920
Do numbers even mean anything?

914
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:08,040
A lot of philosophers were bringing up the whole idea of like the alphabet being ABC, the

915
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,280
EFG, so on and so forth.

916
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,680
It doesn't have to be in that order.

917
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,560
So why does it have to be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and then so on?

918
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,520
A lot of people really, really thought that 1812 sounded great.

919
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,160
Even though it was 1735.

920
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:29,720
Even though it was 1735 and some people felt pretty strongly against that.

921
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:39,440
So in this, that means for the 1812 people, ones were ones, eight were sevens, ones were

922
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,440
also threes.

923
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,840
You're looking too deeply to it is a little bit more esoteric than that.

924
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:50,240
It was kind of like numbers should just sound good regardless of what they're supposed

925
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:51,240
to insinuate.

926
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:56,400
1735 is a little bit of a mouthful, not compared to nice and clean 1812.

927
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:01,080
I would say that like I'm 47 years old because 47 just sounds nice.

928
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,080
It's good number.

929
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,080
Okay.

930
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,720
See this is where it starts to get weird and reading this part of history is always a bit

931
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:13,200
of a debacle because they say it was a war but it was actually, because again they were

932
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,800
arguing about how letters should even be put together.

933
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,680
So it was actually just a lot of raw meat.

934
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:18,680
Oh.

935
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:23,000
And the only conclusion they could come up with at the end of what to call it was war because

936
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,520
it backwards that's raw.

937
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,520
Oh.

938
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,520
But they were just throwing raw meat at each other.

939
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,800
I don't know why they thought that would solve it.

940
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:35,040
I guess it must have taken place around like a lot of butcher shops but it was hectic, studying

941
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,520
it's fascinating though.

942
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,520
All right.

943
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,520
Thank you Andrew.

944
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,520
You're welcome.

945
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,520
[laughs]

946
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,520
Wow.

947
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,600
That was our fun fact everybody.

948
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,000
Michael, what's your al cameo today?

949
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,320
It's a podcast called Good One, a podcast about jokes.

950
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,320
Oh yeah.

951
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,600
We got jokes.

952
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:54,600
And jokes.

953
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:55,920
Weird Al was on an episode.

954
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:02,240
I guess the point of the show is that the guest chooses a song or a joke or something that

955
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:03,680
they want to talk about.

956
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,680
And so he chose word crimes.

957
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:06,680
Awesome.

958
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,320
One thing that he mentioned in there that I don't think I mentioned was the Marvin Gay

959
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:15,520
debate because they asked him how that affected him if at all.

960
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,880
At this point it didn't really directly affect Al but he suspects that his royalties that

961
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,160
he pays are probably going to the Marvin Gay Estate.

962
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,160
Oh, most definitely.

963
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,160
Yeah.

964
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,160
Yeah.

965
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,160
It's a great interview.

966
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,160
Yeah.

967
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,160
I definitely want to check that out.

968
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,120
Well, I'm going to go ahead and rank this song.

969
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,080
I enjoy this song a lot.

970
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,600
I think this is super fun to listen to.

971
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,720
Yeah, I think the music is fun.

972
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:40,720
The lyrics are fun.

973
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:45,280
I think the idea behind it is really fun and it's really cool to get this perspective on

974
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,680
weird Al sharing a bit of himself.

975
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,440
So I am putting this song at number 30.

976
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,440
All right.

977
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,440
Number 30.

978
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:59,040
This puts it just below pancreas just above.

979
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,680
Do I creep you out?

980
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,680
Nice.

981
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,920
I was way too high.

982
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:03,920
Do I creep you out?

983
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:04,920
It's way too high?

984
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,440
No, no, I was way too high.

985
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:07,440
Oh, okay.

986
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,480
But how do you all feel about this song, Michael?

987
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:11,800
What do you prefer?

988
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,720
Blurred lines or word crimes?

989
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:16,640
And yes, there is a wrong answer.

990
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,120
It has to be word crimes.

991
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,120
That's the better one.

992
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,720
Andrew, what do you prefer?

993
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:22,400
Blurred lines or word crimes?

994
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,400
Blurred crimes.

995
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,280
No, it's word crimes, obviously.

996
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,640
Dan, what do you prefer?

997
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,320
Blurred lines or word crimes?

998
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,560
Because of my English degree, I have to go with word crimes.

999
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,040
And Tyler, what do you prefer?

1000
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,160
Blurred lines or word crimes?

1001
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,160
Word crimes 100%.

1002
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,160
Yeah.

1003
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,160
I mean, is there...

1004
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,160
Yeah.

1005
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,160
You have the great music with the great words.

1006
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,160
Yes, absolutely.

1007
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,400
Well, that's going to be bringing us to...

1008
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,800
Wait, what do you prefer?

1009
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,800
Oh, me?

1010
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:54,800
Yeah, you're asking me?

1011
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,800
Yeah, yeah.

1012
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,800
I mean...

1013
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,800
Oh, for word crimes, obviously.

1014
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,800
That's the right answer.

1015
00:48:58,800 --> 00:48:59,800
Mm-hmm.

1016
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,840
Well, that is going to bring us to the end of our show today.

1017
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:09,840
Once again, Tyler, it's so amazing having somebody be a listener to the show as long as you

1018
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,160
have a support of us for as long as you have.

1019
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,320
And to now bring you on the show was really, really special.

1020
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,320
Do you have anything to plug?

1021
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,560
Do you want to plug anything?

1022
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,600
I can plug this great podcast I've been listening to.

1023
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:21,600
Come on for "Hugelpods."

1024
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,600
Yeah!

1025
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,200
It's awesome, can I just press a button?

1026
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,200
Yeah, sure.

1027
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,200
Of course.

1028
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,200
Of course.

1029
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:32,040
And if you want to find out more about this podcast and you're not Tyler Harper, and you

1030
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:37,800
don't know where all of these links are, you can find us at our website, Py dreampodcast.com,

1031
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,800
where we have other podcasts like "Come on, Fuhu, Fuhu, Fuhu, Fuhu, Fuhu, Fuhu, Fuhu, Fuhu,

1032
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:43,800
Fuhu."

1033
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,080
And like our brand new show, "How did this not get made?"

1034
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,920
So go again, find all that at Py dreampodcast.com.

1035
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:57,600
You know, so find links to our Patreon if you want to be as cool as Tyler and listen to all

1036
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:03,480
the nonsense that we talk about, that gets cut out of the episode, go subscribe to our Patreon.

1037
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,320
We do one every month, if you ever just want to know a little bit more about the things that

1038
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:12,560
fascinate us in our opinions on Star Wars, or just funny random rants that get cut out

1039
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:17,960
of the regular episode, or like when awesome guests, you know, talk for three hours, and

1040
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,480
we wish we could put it all out there, but we can't.

1041
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,760
You can find all of that on our Patreon.

1042
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:27,560
Although I'm a little conflicted, because right now we're getting exactly $27 a month.

1043
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,720
And I don't know if I want that number to change.

1044
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:32,680
So the next step we need to get to is $270.

1045
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:37,920
And we got like a month to do it.

1046
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,080
So again, that was links to our Py dreampodcast.com.

1047
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,560
We'd also left a hear from you.

1048
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:47,520
Send us your carrier pigeons, owls, carrier pigeons at gmail.com.

1049
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,000
Do we have any carrier pigeons?

1050
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,840
No, I'm going to save them for the earlier ones.

1051
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,960
Well, if we don't have any carrier pigeons, I realized that there was a story that I was

1052
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:59,280
not able to, well, I couldn't find a way anywhere to like fit this in.

1053
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,360
And I realized that I've been talking about this in previous episodes.

1054
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,040
But I have an accidental English degree.

1055
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,040
Okay.

1056
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,720
I never actually intended to get an English degree.

1057
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:12,960
I've double majored.

1058
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,520
The first one that I was going to go for was a film degree, and I got that.

1059
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:23,760
And I was planning on minoring in English and imaging, which was, imaging was there

1060
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,000
for like editing purposes, which turns out, not true.

1061
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,360
Don't do imaging classes unless you want to do like graphic design.

1062
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:37,760
When I first attended college at Western Michigan University, I did not do well in Michigan.

1063
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:38,760
We had ACTs.

1064
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,960
We didn't have SATs or anything like that.

1065
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,520
We had ACTs, which was specific only for Michigan.

1066
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,280
And I did not do well enough to get into any English classes unless I had taken a few

1067
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,440
like lectures beforehand.

1068
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:57,680
And they said that I needed to take like these five lectures before actually enrolling into

1069
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:58,680
a class.

1070
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:04,320
I went to one lecture and decided it was not really for me.

1071
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:10,560
And I decided to take the very first English 101 class.

1072
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,440
And I just kept going from there.

1073
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:18,720
And I was taking more of these classes more to understand story structure.

1074
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:22,800
I was taking every single writing class I could, any literature class that I could take.

1075
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,560
I was basically just taking all of them and just not telling the English department because

1076
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,880
the only time I ever went there was when they told me I could not take an English class.

1077
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:39,400
So I kept going to more and more English classes and by my senior year, I came back to them

1078
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:45,120
with a bunch of these English credits that I didn't know what to do with.

1079
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:51,440
So I gave them the transcript and they looked at it and they're like, well, you have a major

1080
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,440
in English.

1081
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,440
What?

1082
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,440
No.

1083
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,440
No.

1084
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,960
So yeah, I have an English degree by accident.

1085
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,960
That's awesome.

1086
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,560
Man, college is weird.

1087
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:06,560
That's awesome.

1088
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,320
Well, thanks again, everybody so much for listening.

1089
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:19,920
Stay tuned next week when our song shall be Yoda.

1090
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,120
Yoda our song shall be.

1091
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,120
Yes.

1092
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,120
Yes.

1093
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,120
Song shall be shall be.

1094
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,120
I'm sure.

1095
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,120
I'm sure.

1096
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,120
Funny.

1097
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:35,720
We go from the most grammatically correct song to most correct.

1098
00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:41,680
To Yoda, the most broken English character in cinematic history.

1099
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:42,680
Yeah.

1100
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,600
Just before we go, I did want to plug just one last thing for me personally.

1101
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:53,640
It's be kind and be excellent to each other.

1102
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:54,880
It works out nicely in the end.

1103
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,540
Thanks for watching.