1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,960 Hello, word nerds. Welcome to the ad for my podcast called the dictionary. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:14,360 My name is Spencer Parks. I host this podcast. I read the dictionary, the words, the definitions, 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:20,200 etymologies, even more. I talk about it. I try to explain things. 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:27,800 I also sometimes try to put in some silly jokes or silly sing-songy things, you know. 5 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,400 It's just a fun way to read the dictionary. Sometimes I have guests on. 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,760 And I hope that you will turn on this podcast, check it out, start from the beginning, 7 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:43,320 and you know, enjoy this, what I like to call, "Educutainment." 8 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,920 Check it out in all the places that you can find podcasts. 9 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,560 Hello, and welcome to How Did This Not Get Made. 10 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,160 This is the podcast, all about the movies that were never made, 11 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,840 the scripts that were never written, and the ideas that never even made it to the page. 12 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,160 My name is Daniel Kawka. And I'm Lexcee Riley. 13 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:21,880 Welcome back. We've had a little bit of a hiatus. Fires. 14 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,360 Our city was on fire. We are safe, just so everyone knows. 15 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,440 Our city is still on fire as of recording this, and apparently a new one has happened. 16 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,680 Yeah. So, that's fun. There's too many of you can at this point. 17 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,160 Yeah, although it's supposed to rain. 18 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,360 Honestly, everybody do rain bans, because we need it. 19 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,200 Although not too much, because then we'll get a mudslide. 20 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Yeah, for a place where everyone sees us like, "Oh wonderful place to live, 21 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,160 we are a very fragile, fragile land." 22 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:58,360 It is a wonderful place to live, except for that once a year when we get some unprecedented event. 23 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,760 Yeah, anyway. Let's get into an unprecedented movie. 24 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:08,760 Yes. Now, I just want to ask you, what is your history, not necessarily with Gambit, 25 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,760 what was the X-Men? Let's just say that. 26 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:17,560 Outside of Deadpool, that's like my gateway in, but unless homework was given, 27 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:23,560 it was never part of me. The theme song came on, and I heard it for the first time in my life. 28 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:31,560 That theme song is the anthem of a 90s child. I don't know if I am allowed to bring this up, 29 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,640 but you worked on a potential X-Men property. 30 00:02:35,640 --> 00:02:37,640 I did? Yes. You did. 31 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:43,000 Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. I mean, I'm in the credits. Yes, I worked on this marble. 32 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,520 Yes. And she is a mutant. 33 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,840 She is a mutant, because I remember at the very end. 34 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:54,600 Kamala, there's something different in your genes, like a mutation. 35 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,440 Oh, yeah, and I asked you what that was. 36 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:06,280 Yeah. And I freaked out, because I knew exactly what that was, and that told me that she's a mutant. 37 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,240 She is an X-Men. They're crossing over, finally. 38 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,600 Oh, I forgot about that moment. 39 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,360 Yeah, I was, I'm very proud of working on that. It's a really good show. 40 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,400 Yeah. I guess Ms. Marvel's my gateway, not Deadpool. 41 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,840 For me, I watched the X-Men animated series. 42 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,440 The 92 series. 43 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:28,600 The 90s cartoons that appealed to Little Boys was like always the superhero ones. 44 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,040 They all appealed, like, okay, because we just did Sonic. 45 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,880 They're very little boy oriented. I guess we got Disney Princesses. 46 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,800 Yes, you did. 47 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:44,600 On the DC side, at the very top was the Batman animated series. And on the Marvel side, 48 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,480 the top cartoon to watch was the X-Men animated series. 49 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Yeah. There was Spider-Man, but it was not as popular as what X-Men was. 50 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,960 There was a Spider-Man cartoon. 51 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,640 It was a Spider-Man animated series too. 52 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,440 As a little girl in the 90s, all the time. 53 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,000 Mobius makes an appearance in it with Blade. 54 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:03,800 More Ben time? 55 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,200 Yeah. 56 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,000 Oh. 57 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:05,400 Yeah. 58 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,440 My girl Scarlet Witch shows up in the X-Men cartoon. 59 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,240 Yeah. 60 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,640 Because Scarlet Witch is the daughter of... 61 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,280 Magneto! 62 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:17,400 For me, X-Men was one of the many cartoons that I watched, 63 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,200 because, like I said, stuff targeted to Little Boys. 64 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:26,920 I was in that perfect demographic, the intro song for it. 65 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,240 There's, like, a list of TV shows where you never skip the credits. 66 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:31,560 Yeah. 67 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,400 And X-Men is on the list of, like, that. It is X-Men. 68 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,240 It is Dexter. It is the Simpsons. 69 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,480 Like, you just never, ever skip the credits. 70 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,120 Boy shows. 71 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,240 Boy shows, a lot of Boy shows. 72 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:46,040 Yeah, I, you know, watched the episode that you gave me for homework 73 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,720 and then watched more just because I was curious about Gambit. 74 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,560 I guess we haven't said Gambit. 75 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:52,760 I mentioned Gambit a little bit. 76 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:53,240 Okay. 77 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,560 But that theme song's fun. 78 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,200 Yes. 79 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,640 Like, even as an adult, I was super into watching it. 80 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:07,800 [MUSIC] 81 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,040 I'm very excited for this episode. 82 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:10,600 Yeah. 83 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,520 I have a lot of questions just. 84 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:12,920 Sure. 85 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,040 Let's dive into this. 86 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,840 Now, do you know when Marvel first started? 87 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:18,120 Like, the comic books. 88 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,080 Oh, no. 89 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,680 Okay, so it was founded. 90 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:21,880 I know it was the '60s. 91 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:22,840 With Stanley. 92 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:24,120 With Stanley, yes. 93 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,400 Around the '60s is when Marvel first started. 94 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,680 I guess I just want to ask, like, 95 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,600 how old of a character do you think Gambit is? 96 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:33,480 Oh, boy. 97 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,440 He's got to be one of the early ones, right? 98 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,440 There's some things that are aging well with him. 99 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,200 So, uh, I'm going to go with older, 100 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,240 but you're going to tell me like-- 101 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,920 I'm going to tell you immediately what it is. 102 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:45,880 '89. 103 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:46,520 '89? 104 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,480 No, that's not my guess. 105 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,240 I'm going to get, was I right? 106 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,440 I would say based off things that are aging well, 107 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:53,400 it's the '60s. 108 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,320 But your face, when I said '89, 109 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,440 leads me to believe it's '88. 110 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,360 You went in the wrong direction. 111 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,000 Story at my life. 112 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:01,720 Mm-hmm. 113 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,800 Because Gambit wouldn't appear in the comics until 1990. 114 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,160 Oh, my God. 115 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,880 Yeah, he is a very young character. 116 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,280 I'm shocked how young he is. 117 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:13,400 I'm on Comfort. 118 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,080 [LAUGHS] 119 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,240 Blade is older than him. 120 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,440 Ugh. 121 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,960 Blade is my childhood. 122 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,400 Blade Trinity is the first R-rated movie I ever snuck into. 123 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,440 Ooh. 124 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,800 Ryan Reynolds, Jessica Beale. 125 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:26,680 Yep. 126 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,680 And you can listen to our Blade episode. 127 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,480 Or no, it's-- 128 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:30,520 There's a Blade episode? 129 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,680 No, we talk about Black Panther and Blade 130 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:33,720 makes an appearance in there. 131 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,480 We'll start going into kind of the history of this character. 132 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,640 We're not going to go into the history of X-Men itself. 133 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,200 I think I would save that for like a much bigger episode. 134 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,680 Like if we do the Catherine Bigelow X-Men movie. 135 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,520 [LAUGHS] 136 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,400 Deeps. 137 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,440 [LAUGHS] 138 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,720 From what I remember, 139 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,000 the X-Men came out of Stanley just kind of 140 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,840 peen sick of making origin stories for all of these characters. 141 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:57,480 He's like, you know what? 142 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,000 They're born with it. 143 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,360 They're born with powers. 144 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,320 Maybe it's Maybelline. 145 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,040 Yeah. 146 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,720 So a lot of these characters don't really 147 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,720 have too much of an origin story. 148 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:06,840 They're just like plopped in. 149 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:07,800 They're just like, you know what? 150 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,320 They just live on Earth. 151 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,080 They have weird abilities. 152 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,640 And I'm just going to carry on. 153 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,040 So because Deadpool is newer than Gambit in the comics. 154 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,120 So Deadpool is younger, but only by like a few months. 155 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,560 No way. 156 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:24,040 Yeah. 157 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:24,560 OK. 158 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,080 That makes more sense as to why include Gambit in Deadpool 159 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:29,920 and Wolverine. 160 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:30,400 Yeah. 161 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,280 So let's get into the history of this, 162 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,720 but before we get into the history of that, 163 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,760 let's get into the history of these advertisements. 164 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,280 [APPLAUSE] 165 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:48,640 Welcome back to the Darkcast. 166 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,840 So-- 167 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:50,640 Oh wow. 168 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,240 Real Big Dog hast. 169 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,920 Let's get into the history of Gambit. 170 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,920 Or, you know, is Alter Ego name? 171 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:56,760 Remi Le Bo. 172 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,320 Remi Le Bo. 173 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,160 So he made his first appearance in August, 1990, 174 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,600 in the Uncanny X-Men number 266. 175 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,440 He was created by writer Chris Claremont and artist, Jim Lee, 176 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,920 who is actually currently the president of DC Comics. 177 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Wait, what? 178 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,280 They switched back in fourth-hawalt three-hawalt three. 179 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:16,880 Yeah. 180 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,040 Whenever anyone's like DC's better than Marvel Marvel's 181 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,080 to better than DC, it's like, guys-- 182 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,240 You're flipping a coin. 183 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,520 The artist, the writers, they just went back and forth 184 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,600 to each other. 185 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,120 That's why we have characters who have the exact same powers 186 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,720 in both the universes. 187 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,120 Captain Marvel, Gene Gray. 188 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,040 Yeah. 189 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,840 Now, Chris Claremont is best known for collaborating 190 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,160 on multiple X-Men storylines, including the Dark Phoenix 191 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,200 saga in Days of Future Past. 192 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,160 He's responsible for co-creating many X-Men characters, 193 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,760 such as Rogue, Phoenix, Shadowcat, Mystique, Emma Frost, 194 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,320 Jubilee, Shadow King, Saber Tooth, Legionned, 195 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,920 Mr. Sinister, and the Marauders. 196 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,160 Just name a small fraction of the many characters 197 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,600 that he's made throughout his career. 198 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,440 That's a lot. 199 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,000 That's a lot of heavy hitters. 200 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:05,520 Yes. 201 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,160 I mean, there was a whole list that I went through. 202 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,040 And I was just like just anything 203 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,320 that was mostly recognizable. 204 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:11,840 Yeah. 205 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,240 But yeah, there's a lot that he had created. 206 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,040 Back to the comic. 207 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,240 Even though this is the first time that we see Gambit, 208 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,800 his appearance is not that significant. 209 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,680 It was kind of used as a way to get the story from point A 210 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:27,280 to point B. So in the storyline, Storm, Aurora Monroe. 211 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:28,880 Whoa, that's Storm's name? 212 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:29,480 Yeah. 213 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:30,600 All right. 214 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,160 I've never seen any of the 90s early odds that's been-- 215 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:40,880 So Storm, she was taken captive by Nanny and Orphanmaker. 216 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,160 They were a strange deal that kidnap mutants in D.A. 217 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:44,640 Each of them. 218 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,440 So Storm was then turned into a teenager. 219 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,240 She manages to escape and then gets captured by the Shadow 220 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:51,760 King. 221 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,800 Who has been trying to capture her to absorb her powers. 222 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,560 She manages to escape his clutches and then runs into Gambit, 223 00:09:58,560 --> 00:09:59,880 who is there on a separate mission 224 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,440 to steal some paintings from Shadow King. 225 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,880 Because he's a thief. 226 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,480 He spots Storm and sees the Shadow King's 227 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,680 hounds trying to capture her. 228 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:11,520 For the first time, we see Gambit use his powers. 229 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,000 His eyes grow green. 230 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,600 And an electric energy shoots out of them. 231 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,800 And from his sleeve, a small spike appears. 232 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,480 It absorbs the energy from Gambit's eyes. 233 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,960 And he throws a spike at a wall behind one of the hounds, 234 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,160 and it explodes. 235 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,880 That's a cool power. 236 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,160 The main thing that I took away is the playing cards, 237 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,680 and like the magic. 238 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:36,840 Matt feels more like weapon-y. 239 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:37,200 Yeah. 240 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,040 That came down to more of a logistics. 241 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,480 I couldn't find exactly where he first did it. 242 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,520 But it was more of a logistics of just-- 243 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,280 if he's able to put kinetic energy into an object 244 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,040 and make that explode, what is something 245 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,080 that he could keep on him? 246 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,040 That's like lightweight that he can store a lot of. 247 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,160 And like playing cards was the perfect weapon for him 248 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,560 to have just to be like, into toss it. 249 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:05,640 And it just looks cool that has ranged between playing cards 250 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:06,960 and tarot cards. 251 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,480 But yeah, he throws a spike at the wall. 252 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,480 He explodes. 253 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,400 Then he grabs Storm's unconscious body, 254 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,960 and then carries her to safety. 255 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,880 The two of them team up and defeat the shadow king 256 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,800 and Gambit helps restore Storm to her normal self. 257 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:25,880 In Uncanny X-Men number 273, which was released in December of 1990, 258 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,440 we see Gambit has joined the X-Men team 259 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,360 when in the issue you actually see him wearing 260 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,440 an official X-Men uniform. 261 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,120 But-- 262 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,960 Again, he's not supposed to be a focal character. 263 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:36,840 He's just-- 264 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,440 He's a background actor. 265 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,280 There's no ceremony. 266 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,040 Professor X is not nighting him into this. 267 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,600 And ironically, the name of the issue is too many mutants. 268 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,600 That's boring. 269 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,080 It was hard to keep track of him, and just Gambit just kind of 270 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,840 slipped in and no one noticed. 271 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,920 Initially, there is a confrontation between Gambit and Wolverine 272 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,520 when the two of them are training in the danger room, 273 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,800 which is overlooked by Jubilee. 274 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,200 Wolverine is defeated by Gambit. 275 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:02,960 No. 276 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,400 Yeah, Gambit is one of the few people 277 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,720 that can take down Wolverine. 278 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:06,880 With his playing cards? 279 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:07,200 Yes. 280 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,880 I'm not going to let the playing cards go. 281 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,080 I actually really enjoy it. 282 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,480 And I was looking for a big lore as to why. 283 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:14,640 That was the thing. 284 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,240 It just came down to logistics. 285 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,840 It wasn't too much of a lore. 286 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,560 I was honestly trying to find when the first times 287 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:22,720 for a lot of these things were. 288 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,440 And I knew cards were that-- 289 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,360 but I was shocked to find that the very first weapon he used 290 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,160 was a spike. 291 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:28,680 Yeah. 292 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:29,800 But it all was so. 293 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,320 Yeah. 294 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,760 The first time we see Gambit's romantic relationship 295 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,000 with Rogue is an X-Men Vellying II issue number 24. 296 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,760 That was released in July of 1993. 297 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,520 We see Rogue in Gambit on a date in a Manhattan restaurant. 298 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,520 This takes place after the events that 299 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,800 led to the character Magic's death. 300 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,880 The character's name is Magic. 301 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,440 They confront each other. 302 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,280 Gambit is asking about Rogue's real name 303 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,120 and confesses that he's had feelings for Rogue 304 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,240 since the start when he first laid out 305 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,200 of them and her. 306 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:04,120 And Rogue asks about his marriage to Beladonna, 307 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,520 or his wife Beladonna and why he doesn't talk about her. 308 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,200 That's one heck of a first date. 309 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,960 It kind of sucks right there. 310 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,680 Can you tell me your real name? 311 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:13,320 Well, I'd like to know about your marriage. 312 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,280 Ew. 313 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,960 Let's just-- 314 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,400 Glaze right past that. 315 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,880 So you fell asleep doing my mother's hair. 316 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,680 Big deal, right? 317 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:26,840 How do you clear this thing? 318 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,320 But eventually, the date goes down 319 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,240 to like Rogue is just afraid of hurting Gambit just 320 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,800 because of her powers. 321 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,160 Verly? 322 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,760 The date went well. 323 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,720 It went well, but they just couldn't 324 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:38,720 kiss. 325 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,800 And he's just like, I guess we're just not a couple who kisses. 326 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,720 This twilight? 327 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:42,240 Yes. 328 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,720 [APPLAUSE] 329 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:52,480 So we're going to break away from the comics, 330 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:57,560 and we're going to talk about Gambit in the X-Men animated series. 331 00:13:57,560 --> 00:14:01,600 X-Men, the animated series, it first premiered in October 31, 332 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,200 1992. 333 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,920 Now, if you recall from a Robocop episode, 334 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,960 this wasn't the first time the X-Men animated series was 335 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:09,920 attempted. 336 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:15,360 In 1989, a pilot episode known as X-Men Pride of the X-Men 337 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,320 was created in the hopes of it getting picked up, 338 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:18,840 but it never came to fruition. 339 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,040 This was part of the Robocop episode 340 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,680 because there was a Robocop animated series, 341 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,440 and they used the budget for the 13th episode 342 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,920 of that series to create the pilot episode Pride of the X-Men. 343 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,680 I love a backdoor pilot. 344 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,720 Also, since Gambit wasn't created till a year later, 345 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,400 obviously, he was not part of the cast. 346 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,960 After failing to get picked up, Fox Entertainment went back 347 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,320 to the drawing board and reworked the show. 348 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,880 They test Saban Entertainment, the same company 349 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,200 behind Power Rangers to produce the show. 350 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,480 Saban hired the studio Grey's Entertainment 351 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,960 to animate the episodes. 352 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,760 Mark Edward Edons and Eric Lewald, they 353 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,800 were hired to write and run the show. 354 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:05,640 Edons, his brief history, he is behind the Adventures of Johnny 355 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,920 Quest, the real Ghost Wester's Chip and Dale rescue 356 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,160 Rangers, Tails. 357 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,440 [LAUGHTER] 358 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:12,440 B-Dale. 359 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,680 Sorry, how do-- 360 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,440 Tails bin, Beetlejuice, Teenage Mutant 361 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,760 and Jeterdals, and GI Joe Extreme. 362 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,320 I forgot about the Beetlejuice animated series. 363 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:22,960 It's pretty good. 364 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,800 Eric Lewald, he is behind also the new Adventures of Johnny 365 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,160 Quest, Papa and Son, Chip and Dale. 366 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:29,920 Yeah. 367 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,200 I won't do it twice. 368 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,760 The new Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, 369 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,880 Tails bin, Dark Wing Duck, Beetlejuice and Garc 370 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:37,720 Oils. 371 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:38,800 Oh, yeah, again. 372 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,640 That's a boy-heavy list of shows. 373 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:41,760 Yes, right, my wee-hoff. 374 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,080 I just like Lydia Deeds. 375 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,640 And as a little boy, we did too. 376 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,560 When Edons and Lewald conceived of the show, 377 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,360 they drew a lot of inspiration from the Uncanny X-Men 378 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,000 comic series. 379 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,520 Even Gambit's introduction runs somewhat parallel 380 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,520 in the pilot. 381 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,440 In it, a Sentinel is hunting known Jubilee, a teenager 382 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,040 who recently discovered her mutant powers. 383 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,720 She's blowin' off steam at an arcade 384 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,720 when a giant robot smashes into the building. 385 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,520 We see Gambit flirting with a clerk while he's 386 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,120 by any deck of cards. 387 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,560 You must like to play cards. 388 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,440 I like solitaire, OK? 389 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,320 Let's out got someone to play with. 390 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,280 When Gambit spots a Sentinel, he springs into action, 391 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,720 throwing his explosive cards at the robot. 392 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,200 He assists Storm and Jean Grey in taking down the giant 393 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,280 and Jubilee is taking to the X-manchin to heal. 394 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,360 It's assumed that Gambit is just part of the team. 395 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,240 Also, Gambit is given a thick, caesion accent, 396 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,680 something decided by the showrunners. 397 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:44,480 Yeah, there's even-- 398 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:45,720 Oh, what? 399 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,440 Yeah, I even found the voice notes for what they were looking for. 400 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,120 And it said, heavy caesion, primitive, French, sexy, mysterious. 401 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,560 [LAUGHS] 402 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,720 Oh, my God, that wasn't in the comic book at all. 403 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,960 I mean, he was from New Orleans. 404 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,720 That was in the comics, but outside of that, they were just like, 405 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,240 I don't know. 406 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,440 Fair enough, Karyon. 407 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,240 And the primary voice actor of the rage-in-cation 408 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,600 was Canadian-born Chris Porter. 409 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,440 Oh, my God. 410 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,000 How did you do that? 411 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,680 With style, Patee. 412 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,320 With style. 413 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,640 They made the character mysterious because he 414 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,760 was literally mysterious to the showrunners. 415 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,840 We don't know who you are, so like, just wing in. 416 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,400 Yeah. 417 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,440 Eric Lewald explains in his books, previously on X-Men, 418 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,320 we set up the character of Gambit to be mysterious. 419 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,600 In part, because in 1992, we, and even Marvel, 420 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,920 knew so little about him back to the pilot episode. 421 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,040 In the next scene, we see Jubilee tries 422 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,000 to escape from the X-Mansion, and she's 423 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,440 caught up in a battle between Wolverine and Gambit. 424 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,560 After helping Gambit defeat Wolverine, 425 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,440 it's revealed that they were just sparring. 426 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:51,280 Oh, my God. 427 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:51,780 Yeah. 428 00:17:51,780 --> 00:17:52,280 Just for fun. 429 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,280 Just for kicks. 430 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,920 They just didn't take it to the danger room, essentially. 431 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:56,520 Right. 432 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,520 Typical Tuesday. 433 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:58,680 Yeah. 434 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,080 Like in the comics, he's just part of the team 435 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,440 and always mysterious. 436 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,440 Until the episode, externally yours, in that premiered December 437 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,960 4, 1993. 438 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,880 In this episode, Gambit gets a call informing him 439 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,360 that his brother, Bobby, has disappeared, 440 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:20,320 and he's responsible for bringing the tithe to the external. 441 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,720 Gambit travels back alone to his home, New Orleans. 442 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,000 We flash back to when Gambit was in the Thieves Guild. 443 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,360 Every 10 years, the Thieves Guild and their rivals, 444 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:33,880 the Assassin's Guild, offer a tithe to the external. 445 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,840 If you do that, the Guild is given an increase in their powers. 446 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,080 And if you fail, the Guild's Chosen One 447 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,760 is in prison in oblivion. 448 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,320 Meridant. 449 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,360 This time, the Chosen One is Bobby. 450 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:47,200 Gambit reunites with the Thieves Guild, 451 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,840 and he's informed that the Assassins have his brother. 452 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,040 We also get some exposition that this ritual 453 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,200 and rivalry has been going on for over 300 years. 454 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,360 Very, very long. 455 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:02,120 To free Bobby and the tithe, the Assassins 456 00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:04,080 will exchange them for Gambit. 457 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,520 Meanwhile, Rogue, Jean, and Wolverine, 458 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,560 track down Gambit. 459 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,600 Gambit finds Bobby in the Assassin's quarters 460 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,440 and tells the guard, "Remy Le Ball, here to see my brother." 461 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,840 And for the first time in X-Men history, 462 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,640 we hear the alter-ego name for Gambit. 463 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,320 What? 464 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,960 That's the first time. 465 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,200 It's the very first time, yeah. 466 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,400 Remi and Robert. 467 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,240 Bobby. 468 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,200 Robert Bobby. 469 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,040 We get more exposition that Gambit 470 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,720 wants nothing to do with the Thieves and the Assassins. 471 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,440 Plot twist, this was all a ruse set up by Gambit's ex, Beladonna. 472 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,480 Originally, Bela and Remi had planned to marry each other, 473 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,400 but because she was an assassin, the two would have been killed. 474 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,600 The real Romeo and Juliet situation? 475 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:46,640 Yeah. 476 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,400 Remi left and became an X-Men, 477 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,760 and Bela resents him for not taking her with him. 478 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,040 She tells him that she still wears the ring 479 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,480 and to complete the transaction, Gambit must wear 480 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,760 the ring that she has for him. 481 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,080 His brother is set free, and the ring is revealed 482 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,960 to be a trap that causes excruciating pain 483 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,080 and removal of his superpowers. 484 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,640 Wolverine, Jean, and Rogue find the Thieves headquarters 485 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,640 just before Bobby arrives and informs them 486 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:14,880 that they made the switch. 487 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,480 It's also revealed that Beladonna is the leader of the Assassins, 488 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,080 and she's the chosen one. 489 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,360 Beladonna gives her villains monologue, 490 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:26,120 stating that she never gave Bobby the real Tithe, 491 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:28,720 and when the external sees it, she'll destroy 492 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,360 all of the Thieves guild. 493 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:33,720 At the time of ceremony, Gambit yells out 494 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,360 that the Tithe is fake and they all fight. 495 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:40,160 They all stop when the external appears. 496 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,840 The guilds offer their tides, 497 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,760 and the external sees that the Thieves have not offered 498 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,040 what was promised. 499 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,680 Before the external banishes the Thieves, 500 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,920 Jean telepathically shows the external the truth. 501 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,000 The external is about to punish Beladonna by killing her, 502 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,360 but Gambit steps in with a different punishment. 503 00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:01,240 Take her powers, but not her life. 504 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,280 It is done. 505 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,080 Beladonna pleads for Remi to stay, 506 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,400 and Remi returns the ring and says, 507 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,320 "This is not my home, but I am not thief," 508 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:19,320 or it says, "I am an X-Men, and I'm never coming back." 509 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,600 Bum bum bum bum. 510 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:22,600 Mm-hmm. 511 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,360 That is the closest we got to-- 512 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:26,200 A backstory. 513 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,520 An early origin story of where he came from. 514 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,600 Poor Beladonna. 515 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,320 Poor Beladonna. 516 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,640 Now while the animated series was airing, 517 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,680 a Gambit solo series was in the works at Marvel Comics. 518 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,960 This is nuts. 519 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,360 I mean, he's a background X-Men, not to be mean. 520 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:43,320 Yeah, but there's so many characters too, 521 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,040 to be like, oh, he's kind of rising to the top. 522 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,680 People like him, we should really invest more in him. 523 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,480 That's bananas to me, considering the robes that Jean Greig-- 524 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,040 there's plenty of more forward X-Men. 525 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,680 And everyone's like, "No, Gambit." 526 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:58,760 People like a bad boy. 527 00:21:58,760 --> 00:21:59,960 Yeah. 528 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:01,160 Yeah. 529 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,880 The first issue of the Gambit solo series 530 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,800 was published in October, 1993, just two months 531 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,000 before "Extrarily Yours" had aired, which 532 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,160 means the showrunners had to be working with the writer Howard 533 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,120 Mackie and artist Lee Weeks to help establish 534 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,080 who the character was. 535 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,680 In the comics, a few things were established 536 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,600 so that Gambit's origin stories wasn't completely made up 537 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,840 or like fabricated like on the spot. 538 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,000 So writers Jim Lee and Howard Mackie 539 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,040 established the guilds in Beladonna 540 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,440 in a crossover comic between Ghost Rider and the X-Men. 541 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,880 Interesting. 542 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,200 The external and the tides were not mentioned. 543 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,760 The mythology of the guilds were better covered 544 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,440 in the solo Gambit series. 545 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,680 In the series, we learn that the thieves and assassins guild 546 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,280 is spread throughout the world. 547 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,720 And they must give a tithe to the external name 548 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,400 Kondra every seven years, not 10 years. 549 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,360 In exchange, she gives them the elixir of life, 550 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:00,760 aka the Infinity Formula. 551 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,120 In the comic, it's established that Gambit has 552 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:04,920 an older brother Henry. 553 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:05,680 What? 554 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,840 Not Bobby. 555 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,800 We're gonna run into some sonic doctors here. 556 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,800 Yep. 557 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,160 Henry infiltrates the X-Mansion to get in contact with Gambit. 558 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,960 In the show, Gambit just gets a phone call. 559 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,000 Oh my god. 560 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,960 As for Gambit's marriage to Bella. 561 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,720 Oh, yes. 562 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,520 They did marry as teenagers in hopes that they would end the feud 563 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,520 between the assassins and thieves guild. 564 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,400 Okay, that's straight up Romeo, Juliet. 565 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,600 Bella's brother Julian cannot accept their union 566 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,240 or the peace treaty, so he duels Gambit. 567 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,520 Julian is killed in Gambit flees from New Orleans. 568 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,000 There is also a moment in the comic 569 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,320 where Bella Donna skin touches Rogue 570 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,800 and Rogue sees all of Bella's memories with Gambit. 571 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,640 Is Rogue then his new love interest? 572 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,920 They were the ones on the date. 573 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,280 Yes, they were the ones on the date. 574 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,120 Got it. 575 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:57,880 Rogue in Gambit as a couple is a very famous couple 576 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,040 in the Marvel comics. 577 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,280 Rogue has the white strip. 578 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,360 And a pack one. 579 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:02,880 Okay. 580 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,520 What is Rogue's powers? 581 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:10,520 She is able to absorb powers by touching a mutant skin. 582 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,880 But at the same time, she could potentially kill them. 583 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,080 Oh, that's why it's a no-titchy situation. 584 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:16,840 Mm-hmm. 585 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,800 Yeah, so if you remember when she kisses her boyfriend 586 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,920 and I think this-- 587 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,440 Yeah, it was the first X-Men movie. 588 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,400 Like, he all of a sudden-- 589 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,240 He's using it. 590 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,960 Oh, yeah, he goes into a coma. 591 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,800 Oh! 592 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,240 If she touches a human, she basically just 593 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,160 could kill them. 594 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,760 That's a rough-- I want that life story. 595 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,560 Yeah, in the first movie, there's 596 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,960 a great demonstration of her powers 597 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,160 when she sees that Wolverine is having a nightmare. 598 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,280 He's going through PTSD, how he got created, 599 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,160 and then all of a sudden, he wakes up 600 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,840 and he shunks his claws out and stabs Rogue. 601 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,280 But in the process of doing so, she's also touching Wolverine 602 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,960 and Wolverine-- his powers-- is to heal quickly. 603 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:00,440 And-- 604 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,680 Oh, that's dope! 605 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,840 Yeah, and then she heals quickly. 606 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,160 Right. 607 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,720 But then Wolverine is like suffering 608 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,120 and doesn't really know why. 609 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:09,440 Yeah, it's a vicious circle, you're right. 610 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,440 Yeah. 611 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,440 [APPLAUSE] 612 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,880 [SPLASHING] 613 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:20,760 We are going to fast-forward into the X-Men movies. 614 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,280 Yes. 615 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,760 Something you might have noticed when you've 616 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,280 watched any X-Men movie is a significant lack of gambit. 617 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,040 Yeah. 618 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,120 From what I've found, it seems that they were hoping 619 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:33,320 to set up the character for something much bigger, 620 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,840 like his solo film. 621 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,480 We'll get there. 622 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,720 Don't worry. 623 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,040 In the original X-Men, when they came out in 2000, 624 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,320 in the script, gambit was meant to appear in the danger room. 625 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,240 But the scene in the character was written out 626 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,080 and cut back for the budget. 627 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:47,880 Wow. 628 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,400 Yeah. 629 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,960 I mean, this is very early on, and they're just like, 630 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,200 this movie's already ballooning up as is. 631 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,280 Yeah, I mean, there's so many of them, 632 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,800 you really got to cut it down. 633 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,600 Being lost in the cutting room floor as an X-Men makes a lot of sense. 634 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:00,920 Yeah. 635 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,040 In X2, which came out in 2003, gambit 636 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,040 was set to make a cameo in the scene where Professor X is 637 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,680 forced to kill all the mutants on the planet. 638 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,560 And we're going to get a shot of gambit as one of those mutants. 639 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,320 The scene was shot with Hugh Jackman's stunt double, 640 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,800 James Bam Bam Bamford. 641 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,360 Bam Bam! 642 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,640 Who has cast in the last minute to fill the role. 643 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,320 The shot was removed in the final cut of the film. 644 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,560 So they did film it. 645 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,160 So he's the first live action gambit? 646 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,080 Yes, technically. 647 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,080 Yes. 648 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,440 There is a quick blink-or-ear-miss-it-e-streg 649 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,800 where we see on Stryker's computer screen 650 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,560 a list of mutin names. 651 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,720 And one of them being Labo Remy. 652 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,960 Remy Labo? 653 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,160 In X-Men, the last stand, this one came out in 2006. 654 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,360 Director Brian Singer fully intended 655 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,840 to have gambit as part of the main cast in hopes 656 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,720 that the role would be portrayed by Kiana Reeves. 657 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,440 [LAUGHTER] 658 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,240 I've seen many strange things already. 659 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,600 Since Singer left the project to direct Superman Returns, 660 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,480 plans to bring gambit fizzled out since Singer 661 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,120 was the only one who-- 662 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:11,480 Oh, poor gambit. 663 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,240 Yeah, he was really the only one pushing for that character. 664 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,520 There was an early draft that had gambit as a student 665 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,400 at the Xavier School. 666 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,280 And he would compete with Iceman over his affections 667 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,120 for rogue. 668 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:25,800 Oh, the love triangle. 669 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,880 And another draft in gambit was one 670 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,520 of the mutant prisoners, Magneto-free, from the convoy. 671 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,800 Another actor considered for the role, 672 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,760 your boy, Josh Holloway. 673 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,120 Oh! 674 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:38,960 Sawyer. 675 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,840 Oh, he'd be a really good gambit. 676 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:41,520 Right? 677 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,640 Oh, no. 678 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,640 Oh, I know. 679 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,160 Oh, my vote has changed. 680 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,000 I know. 681 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,120 You're really going to leave me here with a mad scientist 682 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:49,680 and Mr. I speak to dead people? 683 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,440 Yeah, as much as I love Kiana Reeves, 684 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,400 I truly believe that Josh Holloway 685 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,720 would have been the better choice. 686 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,720 I tried. 687 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,160 I actually screened tested with you. 688 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,160 Oh. 689 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,000 And the funny thing was-- 690 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,000 It hurts myself. 691 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,720 It was crazy because, like I said, you're it. 692 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,640 You're the guy. 693 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,200 You're Dan and I shoot my hand, eh? 694 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,400 Everybody at the-- 695 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,520 Someone said-- 696 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,720 Looking through some studio head, that day called them and said, 697 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,000 I want someone really young. 698 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,520 I think like that kid is ice cream musical. 699 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,520 Yeah, I'm just like-- 700 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,760 I was like, oh, so there I went. 701 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,640 I feel robbed. 702 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,920 I know. 703 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,080 But there were so many scheduling conflicts 704 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,440 that he had when he was filming lost. 705 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:30,960 Lost? 706 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,360 Yeah. 707 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:32,720 And he was just unavailable. 708 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,880 Because he was stuck on an island? 709 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,160 Yeah. 710 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,000 Then there was Channing Tatum. 711 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,320 He was cast for the role. 712 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,560 Now, unfortunately, the scene was cut out 713 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,720 of the final script before shooting. 714 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,360 So he never got a chance from the beginning. 715 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,240 I don't know that I want to step into Josh Holloway's shoes. 716 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,680 They justified this because those involved 717 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,080 thought that Gamba should have a much bigger role 718 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,320 if he was going to be introduced into the film 719 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,720 very similar to Beast. 720 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,080 In 2009, we finally got a gambit on the silver screen 721 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,960 with X-Men Origins Wolverine. 722 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,000 Are you Remy LeBoe? 723 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,840 Do I owe you money? 724 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,960 No. 725 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,920 Then Remy LeBoe, I-- 726 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,680 Oh my god. 727 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,840 OK, so this was in my homework list. 728 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,120 And it was an optional. 729 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,040 And if you know me, I always do the optional. 730 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,440 And I got up to grab a snack or something. 731 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,760 Because you were like, you watch clips. 732 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,080 And I was like, I'm just going to take a sick day 733 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,240 and watch something. 734 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,280 Got up to grab a snack or something 735 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,240 and came back and no movie was still going. 736 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,880 And the movie ended and I went, where the hell is gambit? 737 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,440 Oh, you missed the part where they went to the Berberin River. 738 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,600 I missed the four minutes of screen time 739 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,760 where they go to a casino? 740 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,280 Yep. 741 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,080 I rewinded until I found them. 742 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,960 In New Orleans, there is a casino on the French Square 743 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,680 but is not on Berberin Street like they present in the movie. 744 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,840 And I know the reason why they show Berberin Street, 745 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,640 it's kind of like the reason why whenever 746 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,200 you show an establishing shot of Los Angeles. 747 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,520 And you're just like, there's the Hollywood sign. 748 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,160 We're going to shoot this in West Covina. 749 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,720 It was the same thing here where it's like, 750 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,000 we got a show that we're in New Orleans. 751 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,400 The most famous place in New Orleans is Berberin Street. 752 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:10,840 Right. 753 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,120 That's like a teensy bit of fan service to be like a true fan 754 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,240 who knows that he's from New Orleans so doing that quick establishment 755 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,440 you're like, oh, get it, I'm there. 756 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:18,960 Yes. 757 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,720 For anyone around the world who has never been 758 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,560 like, oh, perfect. 759 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,400 I got in my mind. 760 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,240 I didn't know. 761 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,080 This is New Orleans. 762 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:24,240 Yeah. 763 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,920 He's like generic Southern. 764 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:26,520 Yeah. 765 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,520 He's very subtle. 766 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,480 He just has like a twang to his voice 767 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,960 but it's not very dominant. 768 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,160 It's not the cation accent that we-- 769 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,320 No. 770 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,560 Like you said, twang is the perfect. 771 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,960 It's not a standard Southern accent in that way, shape or form. 772 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,480 Large blinds of honey, small blinds 50. 773 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,200 And this seemed to be around the time where whatever it was in Hollywood 774 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,480 producers when it came to seeing what a superhero on a movie screen 775 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,120 needs to look like needs to be drastically different from what he looks like 776 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,520 in the comic books for whatever reason they're like-- 777 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,800 It's John Carter, right? 778 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,320 That's who. 779 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:01,680 Yes. 780 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,480 It is John Carter. 781 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,520 But I blame the very first X-Men when Wolverine sits down in the seat 782 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,680 knees in the costume for the first time. 783 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,720 He's like, you can actually go outside. 784 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,000 These things. 785 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,440 What would you prefer? 786 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,160 Yellow spandex? 787 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,640 Right, because that's why it was such a big thing that we're coming back 788 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,080 to comic book accurate things. 789 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:20,560 Yeah. 790 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,800 Am I going to war or a circus? 791 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,880 What'd you expect, black leather? 792 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:30,280 So that's why you get the portrayal of Deadpool in like the-- 793 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:30,960 Oh, my God. 794 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,120 One of the most insulting ways. 795 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,160 I can see why fans now look at X-Men Origins, Wolverine, 796 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,880 and they're like, what are you doing? 797 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,520 Also, they're doing to these characters. 798 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,320 Sabre Tooth and they're like brothers? 799 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:43,920 Yeah. 800 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,800 But that's not lore. 801 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,000 I googled that. 802 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,960 The lore of that is muddled. 803 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,200 But we never see them in anything else together again. 804 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,720 No. 805 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,560 Even in the first X-Men movies, they don't treat each other. 806 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,800 Like, they know each other. 807 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,720 They're just like, oh, we're enemies. 808 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,200 We're fighting. 809 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,720 That's it. 810 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,800 That movie gave him a quote unquote origin story. 811 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,360 But it felt like it conflicted everything else ever. 812 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,080 Like the Deadpool-- 813 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,080 And then he has this mouth is gone. 814 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,760 Yeah, because he was just annoying. 815 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,720 And they're like, we don't want him to talk anymore. 816 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,840 But then he can have apparating powers? 817 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,600 What-- 818 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,800 It's such a terrible portrayal, even Gambit kind of got 819 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:24,920 shafted as well. 820 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,720 And then-- 821 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,320 They removed all of the fun quirks of his personality. 822 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,480 I don't think that actor did a bad job playing what they wanted. 823 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,840 Yeah, I don't play them at all. 824 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,360 No, but like, I was really confused at what Gambit 825 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,640 was supposed to be. 826 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,000 Yeah. 827 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,400 And for that to be his introduction-- 828 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,160 and even Deadpool, I vaguely knew about Deadpool 829 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,840 because I was unread it. 830 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,400 And Deadpool just became like very popular on Reddit. 831 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,040 And then there were rumors of like him being in a movie. 832 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,960 And like everyone showing what he looked like in the comics 833 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,160 and how he acts and all that stuff. 834 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,880 And it was like, oh, this is going to be fun. 835 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,520 And then it's still the movie. 836 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,240 And it's like, wow, they really-- 837 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,200 they done him dirty. 838 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,560 Oh, Deadpool always has like a hint of annoyance with him. 839 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,960 He's not funny. 840 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,280 He's not like, quick-weighted. 841 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,040 It's more of like, he's just annoying. 842 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,880 He just talks. 843 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,280 Yeah. 844 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,200 And that was not it. 845 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,040 And then he had incredible sword skills. 846 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:16,520 Yes. 847 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,040 I guess. 848 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:17,360 I mean-- 849 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,360 He could split a bullet into an A-mit so that it took out people. 850 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,040 I really love that shot, but yes, it is a cool shot. 851 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,320 But I was like, what is happening? 852 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:27,720 Yeah. 853 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,280 So the plan was to have Channing Tatum in the film 854 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,320 as the rage occasion. 855 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,640 But unfortunately, he had scheduling conflicts 856 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,560 when he was cast in GI Joe, the Rise of Cobra. 857 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,280 Ah, yes. 858 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,360 And he was just unavailable. 859 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,840 Blockbuster of the year. 860 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,520 But instead, they cast Taylor Kish. 861 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,360 That's the word we were talking about. 862 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:46,880 John Carter. 863 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,800 Yes, John Carter. 864 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,640 Kish was cast, and he was actually 865 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,280 signed on to a three-picture deal-- 866 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,120 Oh, no. 867 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,640 --with his next film being a solo gambit movie. 868 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,080 Now, he wasn't the only character to do so. 869 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,920 They also made the same deal with a little known actor named 870 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,440 Ryan Reynolds and his character, Deadpool. 871 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,240 Oh. 872 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:12,320 They stuck them in Wolverine as their pseudo origin. 873 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,480 Yeah, their pseudo origin to kind of introduce-- 874 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,480 Like the cameo, yeah. 875 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,440 Yeah, to be like, this is the character. 876 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,920 And did you watch the post-credit scene of X-Men Origins? 877 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,680 No, I misgiv it. 878 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,640 So I had to rewind and find him. 879 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,720 Yeah, in the post-credit scene, in the rubble, 880 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:31,720 you see an arm come out, and it reaches for something, 881 00:34:31,720 --> 00:34:34,840 and it reaches for a head, and that head is-- 882 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:35,340 Deadpool? 883 00:34:35,340 --> 00:34:36,560 Well, it's Deadpool. 884 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,880 It's Experiment 11 or something like that. 885 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,840 It shows Ryan Reynolds, and his mouth 886 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,480 has been split open from the fall, and he goes, shh. 887 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,240 Oh. 888 00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:49,360 Yeah, so it's like, Deadpool is coming back. 889 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,520 That's fun. 890 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,040 Yeah. 891 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,600 So unfortunately, a few things were working against Kish. 892 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,280 First off, X-Men Origins. 893 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,200 It's not great. 894 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,240 Fans truly hated the film and the portrayals of gambit. 895 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:01,360 And Deadpool. 896 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,800 And so many other characters in that movie. 897 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,080 The other was Kish's other film. 898 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,960 He starred in John Carter and Battleship, 899 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,560 proving to Fox Entertainment that he was not the new leading man 900 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,080 that they thought he would be. 901 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,360 There's like a little bit of a cursor on gambit. 902 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:16,560 Yeah. 903 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,640 I feel bad for everyone who was sort of cast 904 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,840 or tried to be involved. 905 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,720 Yeah. 906 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:26,680 But do you know who was a rising new lead man in Hollywood? 907 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,400 Channing Tatum. 908 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,880 Channing Tatum. 909 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,880 Step up to in the streets. 910 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:31,400 Yes. 911 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:41,000 Now I hate to do this, but I really think 912 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,160 it's important to tell the story of Channing Tatum. 913 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:48,080 Well, in order of when the X-Men fans would have received it, 914 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,360 in 2008 Marvel Comics set out to release a new series 915 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,760 of comics known as X-Men Origins. 916 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,520 Although it seems planned that the Marvel Comics would come out 917 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,480 with a series of X-Men origin comics and Fox's 918 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,000 to premiere X-Men Origins of Wolverine, 919 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,880 I could not actually find a connection 920 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,680 that they were all coordinating this. 921 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:08,680 Huh. 922 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,520 Writer David Benioff worked on the origin script 923 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,920 for three years before he was hired in October 2004. 924 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,920 Three years. 925 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,120 Yeah. 926 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,000 The script drew inspiration from Barry Windsor Smith Weapon X story. 927 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,400 There is also the Chris Claremont and Frank Miller's 928 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,080 1982 Limited Solo Wolverine series and the 2001 929 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,760 Limited Series origin. 930 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,800 The closest connection I could find was a standalone comic 931 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,600 series Wolverine Weapon X written by Jason Aaron 932 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,560 to take advantage of the Wolverine attention. 933 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,720 The comic does not fall into Marvel's max continuity 934 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:50,240 nor the film franchise, but it does draw a lot of inspiration 935 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:51,200 from them. 936 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,240 The X-Men Origins series that was first published in May 2008 937 00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:58,800 starting with the character Colossus. 938 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,160 They would run through other characters as well, 939 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,200 such as Jean Grey, Beast, Sabre Tooth, 940 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,920 and Wolverine before they got to the origins of Gambit, 941 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,000 published in June 2009. 942 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,760 Here for the first time, we get a detailed origin story 943 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,160 of Gambit. 944 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,240 In the comic, we see a eight-year-old Remy, 945 00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:19,120 a thief with mutant eyes. 946 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,200 One day he notices a girl around his age eating some ice cream 947 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,080 just before a group of agents attempt to kill her. 948 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,880 Remy steps in and fights them off, and she steps up 949 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,640 and starts killing them by throwing knives. 950 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,320 Turns out this is Belidana Boudreau. 951 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,960 Oh! 952 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,240 What a cute origin story. 953 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:42,320 The Princess of the New Orleans Assassin's Guild. 954 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,240 Years later, we see Remy is about to get married to Belidana. 955 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:49,960 Remy's father tells Remy that this marriage is a-- 956 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,800 - Shangham. 957 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,040 - Well, it will be a ceasefire needed 958 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,240 to end the feud between the thieves and Assassin's Guild. 959 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:57,320 - I like that. 960 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,800 - Just after they marry, Remy is attacked by Belidana's brother, 961 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:01,880 Julian. 962 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,360 He could not accept the union, and he assumed that Belid 963 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,840 was marrying into the thieves' guild. 964 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,480 Remy and Julian duel. 965 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,960 And Julian is killed when Remy throws a knife 966 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,240 into Julian's shoulder and explodes by accident. 967 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:15,160 - Oops. 968 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,480 - The truce is destroyed, and Remy is exiled. 969 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,640 Remy continues to travel the world, 970 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,120 making a living as a thief for hire. 971 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,400 All while his powers become stronger, 972 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,200 and more and more out of control. 973 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,720 To seek help with his powers, he goes to the mutant geneticist 974 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:33,840 known as Mr. Sinister. 975 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,480 Mr. Sinister agrees to perform brain surgery on Remy 976 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,480 to control his powers. 977 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,360 And in exchange, Remy was asked to lead a team 978 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,120 of mutant assassins known as the Marauders on a secret mission. 979 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,360 Turns out the Marauders were tasked with killing the Morlocks. 980 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,520 In an event known as the Mutant Massacre, 981 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,960 when realizing what's going on, 982 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,120 Remy wanted nothing to do with this. 983 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,360 He tries saving as many mutants as possible, 984 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,400 but he's only able to save one kid. 985 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,880 He continues to roam the earth, 986 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,560 until we're caught up to the moment 987 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,720 when he saves a young storm. 988 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:06,720 - Oh. 989 00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:08,040 - And now we're full circle. 990 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,640 - So that is this true origin story, 991 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,560 and to think like we didn't get that till 2009. 992 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,200 - Yeah, 'cause he was what, in the 1991? 993 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,920 - 1990 is when he first came out, appeared. 994 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:19,760 - That's nuts. 995 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,600 - Yeah. 996 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,400 This brings us to the development of the solo gambit film. 997 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,760 In September, 2013, 998 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,400 while doing a White House down press event, 999 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,400 Channing Tatum was asked about potentially playing gambit, 1000 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,920 any answer to what they quote, 1001 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,240 "I would like to play gambit. 1002 00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:38,200 Gambit's my favorite. 1003 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,320 I'm from New Orleans around that area. 1004 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,640 My dad's from New Orleans, 1005 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,680 and I would like to do a Cajun accent. 1006 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,000 I could do it for real. 1007 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,400 No knock on Taylor Kish, 1008 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,160 though 'cause I actually like his gambit, 1009 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,720 but I've always lived around Cajun people." 1010 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:54,280 - Yeah, we don't be knowing that it ain't coming off 1011 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,640 or that don't gonna come off. 1012 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,960 - I'm so sorry, beautiful. 1013 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,960 I want this to be gentle. 1014 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,520 Who is your dialect coach? 1015 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,720 The minions? 1016 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:05,240 - Gambit was always like the woman loving cigarette smoking 1017 00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:06,360 and drinking guy. 1018 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,680 He was the punk rock of all superheroes. 1019 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,520 He's a thief. 1020 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,040 He kind of rode the line. 1021 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,920 In January, 2014, 1022 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,240 producer behind the X-Men franchise, 1023 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:18,680 Lauren Schuller-Donna revealed that she was planning 1024 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,240 on making a solo gambit film with Tatum. 1025 00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:22,720 And as for the story, she said, 1026 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:24,560 it doesn't have to be a great big movie. 1027 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,240 It's a thief in New Orleans. 1028 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:28,320 It's a whole different story. 1029 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,480 Tatum's on board, 1030 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,520 and I have to get the studio on board. 1031 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,040 By May, it was official when Tatum signed on 1032 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,000 to be gambit in his own solo film, 1033 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,560 and when debut of the character in X-Men Apocalypse, 1034 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,320 that's one that came out in 2016. 1035 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,720 - With Po Dameron. 1036 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:44,800 - My first thought when he was doing this 1037 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,080 is that he was gonna be one of the four horsemen 1038 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,200 of the Apocalypse. 1039 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,080 - Gambit was? 1040 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,680 - Do you remember the movie? 1041 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,600 - No. 1042 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,680 - Okay. 1043 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:53,520 So in a-- 1044 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,720 - I'm calling him Po Dameron 1045 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,000 'cause I can't even remember his real name at the moment. 1046 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,840 - Oh. 1047 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,360 - Oscar Isaac. 1048 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,200 There we go. 1049 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,600 I just had to admit defeat. 1050 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,000 - Oscar Isaac is looking for like four different mutants 1051 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,080 that were supposed to represent the four horsemen 1052 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,120 of the Apocalypse. 1053 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,080 - Who were they? 1054 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,560 - There was Storm Magneto, 1055 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,200 Siloc, and Angel. 1056 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,360 And in the comics, 1057 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,440 there was a brief moment where after Gambit was killed, 1058 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,480 he came back as one of the four horsemen 1059 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,720 of the Apocalypse as death. 1060 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,200 - Oh, that actually would have been a really close target. 1061 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,040 - Yeah. 1062 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,320 Turns out that was not the case he was supposed to be 1063 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,440 just in a post-credits scene. 1064 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,800 But that was really cool. 1065 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,320 - Yeah, if his introductory is that he's dead 1066 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,440 and they somehow have to like bring him back. 1067 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,280 - Yeah. 1068 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,120 - Yeah, a good one. 1069 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:36,960 I wanna watch that movie. 1070 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,800 - I would too. 1071 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,840 By October 2014, Josh Zuderman 1072 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,920 is the writer behind the newest Robocop 1073 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,440 one that came out in 2014 in Patriot State. 1074 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,160 He was hired to write a script based on the treatment 1075 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,840 written by Chris Claremont, the creator of Gambit. 1076 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,520 In January 2015, Fox announced the release date, 1077 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,560 October 7th, 2016. 1078 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,760 In May 2015, Zuderman submitted the first draft 1079 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,880 on what would be Gambit's origin movie. 1080 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,040 In June 2015, Channing Tatum did a red AMA 1081 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,600 to promote Magic Mike XXL. 1082 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,760 But all anyone was really interested in 1083 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,680 was the Gambit movie. 1084 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,320 He was able to reveal without breaking any NDAs 1085 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,720 that he would no longer appear in X-Men Apocalypse. 1086 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:23,320 But they did find a director, Robert Wyatt. 1087 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,600 He's the director of Rise of the Planet of the Apes. 1088 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,320 - I was gonna say that name sounds familiar. 1089 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,360 - And that filming would begin in New Orleans 1090 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,200 in October or November of that year. 1091 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,640 According to Collider in July 2015, Fox was pushing 1092 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,480 the Gambit movie to be a bigger spectacle 1093 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,480 in order to make the character as popular as possible 1094 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,480 and proposed a $153 million budget to make the film. 1095 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,920 And they also emphasized that $111 million 1096 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,400 would be going directly to Louisiana. 1097 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,360 - I thought you were gonna say directly to Channing Tatum. 1098 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,360 - No. 1099 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,280 - No, he's not the rock. 1100 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,360 - Wait, that money was going to New Orleans, sorry. 1101 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,760 - It was going to Louisiana. 1102 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,000 Because Louisiana had a, I think they still do have a tax credit 1103 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,800 for productions that are down there. 1104 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,920 But yeah, that was the big emphasis of like, 1105 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,640 there was Georgia, Louisiana, Michigan for a little while. 1106 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,880 For Lauren Schuler-Donna, Channing Tatum, Josh Zudimer, 1107 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,000 and Robert Wyatt, they wanted a smaller scale movie 1108 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,920 that would focus on mobsters and thieves 1109 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,160 and didn't want a end of the world stakes, 1110 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,120 which not every superhero movie needs to end with like. 1111 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,800 - No, that gets burnt out real quick. 1112 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,640 - If it had been like a heist movie? 1113 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,680 - Yeah, perfect. 1114 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,480 It was rumored that Tatum nearly dropped out of the project 1115 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,360 when he learned that Fox wanted Gambit 1116 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,520 to be one of the anchor characters in anticipation 1117 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,440 that Hugh Jackman was going to end his run as Wolverine. 1118 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,360 This was also the time that Entertainment Weekly 1119 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,600 published that epic cast photo, 1120 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,200 which was shot by Sarah Dunn. 1121 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,040 - Here we go. 1122 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,560 - Showing the extended X-Men universe 1123 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,920 with Channing Tatum wearing a Gambit t-shirt. 1124 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,240 Have you seen this cast photo? 1125 00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:02,800 - It reminds me of the dark universe. 1126 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,200 - It very much has that same vibe. 1127 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,560 - What I'm quickly learning is that you gotta be careful 1128 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,240 with the cast photos. 1129 00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:10,680 Are they all in t-shirts? 1130 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,880 - No, actually just Gambit is the one who's in a t-shirt. 1131 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,400 - That's actually quite fitting for the character. 1132 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,560 - Mm-hmm. 1133 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,480 - What's it that's big is I want to be? 1134 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,400 - Oh, who is Miles Teller supposed to be? 1135 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,640 - He was in the Fantastic Four. 1136 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,480 Mr. Fantastic. 1137 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,880 - Oh, this was when we were doing that. 1138 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,000 Was that Fantastic Four with Fox, I guess? 1139 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,840 - Yeah. 1140 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,840 - This was all Fox. 1141 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,120 - Who is Rony Marra? 1142 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,280 - Fantastic Four. 1143 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,120 - Oh. 1144 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,120 - The invisible woman. 1145 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,040 You should watch the Fantastic Four. 1146 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,520 - I've seen it because Michael B. Jordan was also in it. 1147 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,760 Evan Peters is making a very wonderful 1148 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,240 Evan Peters quick silver face 1149 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,440 and Channing Tatum in the Gambit shirt. 1150 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,120 Everyone else is so serious. 1151 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,800 They are in their own photo. 1152 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:54,640 And I really like it. 1153 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:55,480 - They're having the time of their life. 1154 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,320 - Yeah. 1155 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,760 Enjoy going to work. 1156 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,040 Like that's a goal. 1157 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,840 - It's like the two of them took a shot at Tequila 1158 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,320 before they took this photo. 1159 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,240 - Evan Peters is still taking it. 1160 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,000 On August 28th, 2015, the second draft 1161 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,320 of the Joshua Zootamers script was submitted. 1162 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,360 And this is the script that got leaked. 1163 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,840 And we will be going over that in part two of our episode. 1164 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,200 - I'm so excited for this. 1165 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,080 - Now all you need to know about the script for now, 1166 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,280 because we're actually gonna go through 1167 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,280 the entire story of how this almost happened 1168 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,640 and how it did not. 1169 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,480 - Rude. 1170 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,320 - I know. 1171 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,760 - But all you need to know about the script is that 1172 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,760 this is going to be a Gambit origin story. 1173 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,400 He is not going to join the X-Men. 1174 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,080 This would have primarily taken place in New Orleans 1175 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,400 in the 80s after this is after the events 1176 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,560 of Days of Future Past and Apocalypse. 1177 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,280 The story they were hoping to tell was a heist film, 1178 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,640 but with mutants and his love interests 1179 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,280 would have been Belidana. 1180 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,120 - Yeah. 1181 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,560 - Potentially played by Leah Sado. 1182 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,800 You might know her from various 007 movies, 1183 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,320 the lobster, blue is the warmest color. 1184 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:11,120 She played Belle in Beauty and the Beast, not the one 1185 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,360 you're thinking of, but the remake that was made in 2014. 1186 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,800 - Is it the made for TV movie? 1187 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,440 - It wasn't made for TV. 1188 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,280 - I don't know. 1189 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,440 - I don't know. 1190 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,880 - Actually she's not ringing any bells, sorry. 1191 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,840 But I don't think I've seen any of the things 1192 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:24,680 that you wasted. 1193 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,680 - Do you watch movies? 1194 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,880 - I do. 1195 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,120 Apparently not X-Men related movies. 1196 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,480 - Did you watch Doon Part Two? 1197 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,120 - Yeah, didn't I see that with you? 1198 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,400 - No, I saw that with other roommates. 1199 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,840 - Anyway, in this very incestuous picture, 1200 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:37,880 she's the Opsister. 1201 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,920 - Oh, okay, so I have seen her, but not in a lot of things. 1202 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,680 007, who's the bond? 1203 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:45,680 - Daniel Craig. 1204 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:46,520 - Okay. 1205 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,760 - In September 2015, director Robert White 1206 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,080 dropped out of the project due to scheduling conflicts, 1207 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,120 which changes in the script and having to work around 1208 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,200 Marty Grau. 1209 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,800 Filming would have taken much longer 1210 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,240 and would have overlapped into his next project. 1211 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:02,040 My guess from looking at his IMDB, 1212 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,200 it would have interfered with the Exorcist TV series 1213 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,600 that he was set to produce and direct the pilot off. 1214 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,040 This is also around the time 1215 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,280 that Fantastic Four had come out and flopped. 1216 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,040 This forced Fox to reduce the budget of the film. 1217 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,200 This also contributed to White leaving. 1218 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,520 This changed Gambit's potential in debuting 1219 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,120 in X-Men Apocalypse, where he would appear 1220 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,120 in the post-credit scene, but instead we got 1221 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,920 the introduction of the XX Corporation, 1222 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,680 which also takes place in the original Gambit script. 1223 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:34,760 - Oh, okay. 1224 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,160 So there's like, it's tethered. 1225 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,240 - Yeah, they're setting it up, 1226 00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:39,000 but they don't want to promise too much. 1227 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,600 - I mean, I get it, considering all things. 1228 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,320 - By November, why it was replaced by Doug Lyman. 1229 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,280 He's the director of Swinger's, 1230 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,640 Edge of Tomorrow, Born Identity, 1231 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,000 Mr. and Mrs. Smith, and Jumper. 1232 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,400 In January 2016, it was announced 1233 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,280 that the film would begin filming in March and in February, 1234 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,200 Fox announced that Gambit would no longer 1235 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,840 be released by October. 1236 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,160 - Yeah, that's a tight turnaround. 1237 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,000 - Yeah, it is. 1238 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,400 In May, producer Simon Kinberg, 1239 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,440 the producer behind every X-Men film since first class, 1240 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,080 he explained that they were unhappy with the script. 1241 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,160 The most important thing is getting the tone 1242 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,760 and the voice right. 1243 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,680 We are hoping that Gambit is like what Deadpool was, 1244 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,000 the start of a new franchise with the X-Men universe. 1245 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,960 We want to make sure that we get it right. 1246 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,360 In July, Kinberg announced that the production was happy 1247 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,320 with the newest draft, 1248 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,920 and that filming would begin hopefully in 2017. 1249 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,640 - Good Lord, it's so much time has passed. 1250 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,440 Again, every time we have an episode, 1251 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,720 we say I can't believe any movie gets made. 1252 00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:41,360 - Yeah, it's a miracle. 1253 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,080 In August 2016, it was reported as a mutual split, 1254 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,040 but Lyman had left the production to direct a DC film. 1255 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,920 Another famous unmade film, Justice League Dark. 1256 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,160 The film was also attached to Guillermo D'Otoro for a bit. 1257 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,000 - Whoa. 1258 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,800 - And it looks like Lyman was signed on after he had left. 1259 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,240 The film would have followed the characters, 1260 00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:07,600 John Constantine, Swamp Thing, Dead Man, Satanah, 1261 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,560 and the Triggan, the Demon, back to Gambit. 1262 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,960 While production was looking for another director, 1263 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,120 Tatum carried on and ironically made another heist movie, 1264 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,080 Logan Lucky. 1265 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,400 - Oh yeah. 1266 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,240 - Did you watch that? 1267 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:23,080 - I didn't get time. 1268 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:23,920 - Oh, it's fun. 1269 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,760 - I couldn't remember what the name of that movie was 1270 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,600 until you just said it. 1271 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,600 - Yes, definitely watch Logan Lucky. 1272 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,360 I don't think you needed to know about that, 1273 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,760 but it is a great movie to know like, 1274 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,960 this is Tatum around this time making a heist movie. 1275 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,360 You could have seen the potential of like, 1276 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,160 what it would have been like or what the tone would have felt like, 1277 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,920 but he reunited with the Ocean's 11th and Magic Mike director, 1278 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,200 Steven Soderberg. 1279 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,280 - Steven Soderberg did Magic Mike? 1280 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,120 - Yeah, that was one of his like, 1281 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,160 this movie's for me type movies. 1282 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,120 - Yeah, I saw it for the first time like two years ago. 1283 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,040 It's a fun time. 1284 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,520 - Yeah, and also a heist movie. 1285 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,720 He just loves heist movies. 1286 00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:02,720 - Yeah. 1287 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:07,600 - And February 2017, Kinberg was interviewed by comicbook.com, 1288 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,840 all about the upcoming X-Men films. 1289 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,520 He mentioned Logan, The Deadpool sequel, 1290 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,880 and an X-Force film. 1291 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,280 - Well, it's inactive development. 1292 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,640 It's a movie that we hope will be ready to go by the end of this year 1293 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,600 and shoot next year. 1294 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,440 We have two or three X-Men related movies this year 1295 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,200 so we can wait at the moment. 1296 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,480 The process has been that Tatum is as determined 1297 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,040 about getting the character right as Ryan Reynolds 1298 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,040 was about Deadpool and Hugh Jackman 1299 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,040 was about this Logan movie. 1300 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,200 We know that when we get those right, 1301 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,720 the movie succeeds and we wanna make sure 1302 00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:47,240 that we get Gambit right 1303 00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:50,880 because we want him to be the beginning of a new franchise. 1304 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,400 - The Gambit franchise. 1305 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,800 - Yeah, there was a lot riding on the solo Gambit movie. 1306 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,280 I didn't realize that much about it. 1307 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,640 I just knew that Gambit was supposed to get a movie 1308 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:01,760 and that's really about it. 1309 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,840 It wasn't like we're turning a new stone. 1310 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,800 - There was a plan to let Wolverine go and be 1311 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,080 and move on with his life 1312 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,520 and it sounds like Deadpool and Gambit were the new faces of us. 1313 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,680 - Yeah, they were gonna be the new cornerstones. 1314 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,280 - That's a very quick, witted, kind of dirty take on Superheroes. 1315 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,480 - In 2017, Comic Con Tatum talked about the Gambit film 1316 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,080 and he was grateful about the delays. 1317 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,200 With Wolverine and Deadpool, 1318 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,400 this really changed the tone of the X-Men franchise 1319 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,640 and Gambit would have immediately felt dated 1320 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,240 had it been made sooner. 1321 00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:35,280 By August, it was announced that they were starting 1322 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,120 to script over. 1323 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,920 - Oh my God! 1324 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,960 The Lady Writer who has been attached for like almost 1325 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,040 a decade at this point is gotta be like, 1326 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,840 okay, draft 77. 1327 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:45,760 - The Lady Writer. 1328 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:46,800 - Was there a Lady Writer? 1329 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,800 - There was a Lady Producer. 1330 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,640 Donner, I believe is Mary Toe Writer, Donner. 1331 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,920 - Okay, so Lady Producer. 1332 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,880 But like the team has stayed almost the same 1333 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,880 and like to stay with a project for this long is incredibly impressive. 1334 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,440 - Yeah, in October, the film was given a new release date, 1335 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,320 February 14th, 2019. 1336 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,080 - And Gorver Bensky, he directed 1337 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,480 one of my favorite horror films, The Ring. 1338 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,880 - That's one of your favorite horror films, 1339 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,320 that's a different podcast. 1340 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,040 - Okay, what else? 1341 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,880 - Any directed Pirates of the Caribbean. 1342 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:19,880 - There it is. 1343 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,000 It's gotta be my top like 15 favorite movies. 1344 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,000 That's an interesting director choice for me. 1345 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,520 - Yeah, they also announced who the costume designer 1346 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,080 was going to be and that was gonna be Jenny Bevan. 1347 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,360 She was the costume designer behind Sherlock Holmes, 1348 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,320 Fury Road, Furyosa, Cruella, and ironically, 1349 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,480 Gambit, but the movie that came out in 2012. 1350 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:43,920 - There was a Gambit movie, 1351 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,120 oh, not a superhero just the time. 1352 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,120 - It's kind of like how the Avengers 1353 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,600 move with Uma Thurman and Ray Fines. 1354 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,600 It's like that. 1355 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,440 - It's just tight. 1356 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,920 - It just happened to be named Gambit. 1357 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,920 - Again though, you have a director of Pirates in the Ring 1358 00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,240 which are darker toned. 1359 00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:01,960 That costume designer, Dark Tone. 1360 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,880 I haven't seen Gambit as gritty or Dark Tone. 1361 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,040 So this is an interesting stab. 1362 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,320 - Yeah, although Pirates of the Caribbean is very humorous. 1363 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,080 - It is, but I wouldn't call it like a comedy. 1364 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,040 - It's an action movie with funny moments. 1365 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,520 - Like Sloothed in. 1366 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,120 - And then in November, Lizzie Kaplan was cast as Beladana. 1367 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:24,960 - No! 1368 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:29,040 - Sh*t, but that's why you were like keeping it that way. 1369 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,080 My girl, Lizzie Kaplan! 1370 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,240 - Yep. 1371 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:34,520 - I don't wait for somebody to give us a chance. 1372 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,320 The time we took a chance for ourselves. 1373 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,720 - I need everything else throughout out. 1374 00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:44,720 - I need a Gambit story with Josh Holloway and my girl Lizzie. 1375 00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:47,320 - There was also another casting. 1376 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,440 They didn't say for who, but it was Little Rell Howie. 1377 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,680 You might know him as like the best friend and get out. 1378 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,120 He's one that like he calls. 1379 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,520 - Oh, I love him! 1380 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:03,200 - It was a movie that I was attached to with Chan and Tatum 1381 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,560 that we were gonna do and in whatever happened happened, 1382 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,240 but it was in that world. 1383 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:09,560 So I was like, damn, man. 1384 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,560 It wasn't Gambit, was it? 1385 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,480 - Yeah. 1386 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,240 - I think they were gonna cast him as Henry, as Gambit's brother. 1387 00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:20,800 It cannot confirm it, but let's see only casting that makes sense. 1388 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:21,640 - Okay. 1389 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,400 - Locations counting would begin in New Orleans, 1390 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,480 and by December, it was announced that the filming 1391 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,040 would begin by March 2018. 1392 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:28,880 - Good God. 1393 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,720 - Yep. 1394 00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:32,640 In January 2018, Gorg Rinsky left the project 1395 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,440 because of a generically sugar-coated reason 1396 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,280 of having creative differences. 1397 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,160 (laughing) 1398 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,160 But this force Fox to push the release date 1399 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,680 to June 7th, 2019. 1400 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,920 - I actually get creative differences 1401 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,760 is totally a sugar-coated answer. 1402 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:50,680 But I agree. 1403 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,160 The producers, the Chan and Tatum, that cast 1404 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,200 are all very like humor-based. 1405 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,960 And that's the thing they've been working towards. 1406 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,560 So then you throw this darker toned horror action director at it. 1407 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,640 I think I get it. 1408 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,360 I understand this delay and step down. 1409 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,560 So Fox was scrambling, and it was reported in April 1410 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,680 that they still couldn't find a director. 1411 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,360 Around this time, Fox had teamed up with Big Easy Studios, 1412 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,920 the same studio behind Logan to help produce the film. 1413 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:24,920 The release date again was pushed to March 13th, 2020. 1414 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:25,920 - Oh, well. 1415 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,760 - Yep. 1416 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,760 - No need to explain this delay. 1417 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:28,600 - Nope. 1418 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:33,040 In October 2018, Kinberg was interviewed with Collider 1419 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,120 about the progress of the film, 1420 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,880 and he stated that the script had changed significantly 1421 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,880 from its initial incarnation. 1422 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,560 The focus fell away from being a straight heist film 1423 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,560 and leaned into being an R-rated romantic comedy. 1424 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:47,880 - That's still fun. 1425 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,120 - That would have taken place in the '70s. 1426 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,280 But since Gambit was a thief, 1427 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,720 heist elements would still remain in the story. 1428 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:55,720 - He stole her heart. 1429 00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:57,040 - Yeah. 1430 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,360 I'm guessing that they went in the direction 1431 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,360 of making an R-rated movie after seeing the success 1432 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,800 of Deadpool and Logan. 1433 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,400 Both of those were R-rated movies. 1434 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,240 - Correct. 1435 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:09,320 - In January 2019, it was reported by deadline 1436 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,160 that Channing Tatum dropped his reps at UTA 1437 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,080 in management 360. 1438 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,840 The rumor was that he wanted to direct the film 1439 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,080 with his producing partner, Reed Carolyn. 1440 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,200 - That again, doesn't surprise me 1441 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,280 with the amount of-- 1442 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,480 - With the amount of delays, and be like, 1443 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,320 I know this so well. 1444 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,360 - It sounds like Anna Kendrick and the woman 1445 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,440 of the hour movie that came out 1446 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,640 that was her directorial debut. 1447 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:32,800 They just couldn't find a director. 1448 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,960 And she's like, I'll do it. 1449 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:34,800 - I'll try. 1450 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:35,640 - Yeah. 1451 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,800 - She did a great job. 1452 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:37,640 - Yep. 1453 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,600 They never explicitly said that they wanted 1454 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,680 to direct the movie, although they did 1455 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,880 end up co-directing the movie dog. 1456 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,160 (laughs) 1457 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,880 So it shows that they were really willing to try this out. 1458 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,520 - Well, maybe that was their test run. 1459 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:52,360 - Yeah. 1460 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,400 While in the background of this development hill, 1461 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,560 Disney was in the process of buying Fox and Negotiations 1462 00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:02,320 where soon coming to a close in February 2019 producer 1463 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,720 Lauren Schuller-Donna, announced that the production 1464 00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:08,560 for Gambit would pause until the deal was finalized. 1465 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,040 Unfortunately, when the film was put in the hands of Disney, 1466 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,560 the release date was removed from the schedule. 1467 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,560 And in May, it was officially canceled. 1468 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,960 Gambit was not the only movie on the chopping block. 1469 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,560 There was also going to be an X-23 film, 1470 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,080 a spin-off from Logan, and a third Deadpool, 1471 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,480 a different film from Deadpool in Wolverine. 1472 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,400 - Was it like a Christmas Deadpool or something? 1473 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,840 - The Christmas one was supposed to be the second movie. 1474 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:35,680 - Yeah. 1475 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,640 - All the film rights for the X-Men then returned 1476 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,680 back to Marvel Studios. 1477 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,920 (audience applauding) 1478 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,920 (camera shutter clicking) 1479 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:52,000 So this brings us to how we got Gambit in Deadpool in Wolverine. 1480 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,520 Director Sean Levy was the one that approached Tatum 1481 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,080 to portray the character, and he was more than grateful 1482 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,440 to finally play Gambit. 1483 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,440 Also a huge shout out to the costume designer, 1484 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:08,440 Ray's Rubio, for creating a comic book accurate costume. 1485 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,680 - My only thing about Deadpool Wolverine, 1486 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,440 and maybe I just wasn't focused enough. 1487 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,000 I wanted more of his eyes to change, 1488 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,120 but like, rather than that, 1489 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,160 and that's not the costume designer, that's the VFX department. 1490 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,560 - Yes. 1491 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,800 When it came to his accents, his lines were written in a way 1492 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,880 to be nonsensical according to Levy. 1493 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,200 It was then that Tatum, this laid down the accent thick. 1494 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,880 Like, he understood the assignment, 1495 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,840 and then like, we're really into it. 1496 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:36,840 - He's got Megan Aiden himself. 1497 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,600 - You know how long I've been waiting for this? 1498 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,080 - What about I make a name for myself here? 1499 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,360 - I watched the assembled for this, 1500 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,160 the shot where you have Electra, 1501 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,920 Gambit and Blade, and X-23. 1502 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:49,760 - X-Gun, give it to you. 1503 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,280 - But like those, those three in particular, 1504 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,680 Blade Electra, Gambit, 1505 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,000 you can tell how they're just like, 1506 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,440 they're just so happy to be there. 1507 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,280 - They're just so jazz. 1508 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,400 They were all like, standing around and looking at, 1509 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,360 I think like a previous thing. 1510 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,080 And you can see the excitement just like, 1511 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:03,960 emanating out of them, 1512 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,040 and then they go to do something else, 1513 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,200 and they're like, all right, that's like, 1514 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,200 you know, we're done with the day. 1515 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,600 And he's like, do we have to? 1516 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:09,600 (laughs) 1517 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,440 - I didn't want to stop, 1518 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,600 and I was very, I was like, tired. 1519 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,400 I was like, do we have to go home? 1520 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,920 Do we have to take it off? 1521 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,680 - After the movie had come out, 1522 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,360 Channing Tatum took to social media 1523 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,480 and he actually put out a quote, he said, 1524 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,640 "I thought I had lost Gambit forever, 1525 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,880 but Ryan Reynolds fought for me in Gambit. 1526 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,160 I will owe him probably forever, 1527 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,200 'cause I'm not sure how I could ever do something 1528 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,000 that would be equal to what this has meant to me. 1529 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:34,920 I love you buddy. 1530 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,920 I'm so grateful to be in this movie. 1531 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,040 It's a masterpiece, in my opinion, 1532 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,920 the pure baddest joy. 1533 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,120 I was literally screaming in the theater. 1534 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,280 - I hope he just went and sat at theaters 1535 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,360 and let people scream to my theater, 1536 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,200 when he came on screen. 1537 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,240 - I freaked out. 1538 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,880 - I didn't know. 1539 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,160 (laughs) 1540 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,240 I freaked out when Electric came on screen, 1541 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,800 'cause my girl, Jett of a Granner, 1542 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,560 that I was just like, "Oh, everybody gets excited, 1543 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,360 who is this character?" 1544 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,720 - And a post-credit scene, 1545 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,640 which is hard to make out, 1546 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,880 they're on one of the TVA screens. 1547 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,280 We can see Gambit manage to survive the battle. 1548 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,560 Later, Ryan Reynolds confirmed this on his Instagram account 1549 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,840 that Gambit did indeed survive 1550 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,840 when he posted the full video. 1551 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,040 So there is potentially a way 1552 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,480 that a Gambit movie could be seen in the future. 1553 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:24,320 - Nice. 1554 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,400 - That's what you sent me, right? 1555 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:26,240 - I did send it to you. 1556 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,400 I said just one more thing. 1557 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,240 - Just one more thing. 1558 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,080 - And I sent you that video. 1559 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,320 - It was really good. 1560 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,000 I wish you had sent that to me 1561 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,160 before I watched Deadpool and Wolverine. 1562 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:38,280 The TVA screens, I think I just want to watch one day, 1563 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,720 'cause I'm sure like, why is Thor crying? 1564 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:40,560 We never got that. 1565 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,400 - No, we didn't. 1566 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,160 - Maybe we'll get it in the Gambit movie. 1567 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:44,360 We'll know why. 1568 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,040 - So that's gonna conclude apart one 1569 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,200 of our Gambit episode. 1570 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,120 In part two, we are gonna actually just dedicate 1571 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,560 the whole thing to Jess the script. 1572 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,560 - Got how way it was a guess. 1573 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:56,400 - Yes. 1574 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:57,240 (laughs) 1575 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:58,680 It's going to be Jess the script, 1576 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,440 the one that was the second draft. 1577 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,760 Remember it came out around like 2015. 1578 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,520 - Got it when it was still a high-s movie. 1579 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:06,520 - When it was still a high-s movie, 1580 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,600 and that is what we're gonna be going over. 1581 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,920 (audience applauding) 1582 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,500 (upbeat music) 1583 01:01:14,500 --> 01:01:16,400 (whooshing) 1584 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,400 Before we go, do you have any movie recommendations? 1585 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,240 - Oh my God. 1586 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,080 Do you have one? 1587 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,240 - I recently saw No Sforat too. 1588 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,240 - Just be nice, No Spoilers, 'cause I haven't seen Ian. 1589 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,920 - In it, everyone's hot for No Sforat too. 1590 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,240 (laughs) 1591 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,400 Now, I thought it was beautifully done, beautifully shot. 1592 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,520 You could definitely tell that Robert Edgar's 1593 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,000 just loves the original movie so much. 1594 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,560 - The only thing that's gotten ruined for me 1595 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:43,520 is what he looks like. 1596 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,120 And I don't understand the mustache. 1597 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,320 - There was a historian that explained the mustache 1598 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,240 on why that was because if he was someone who is of nobility, 1599 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,880 but they show that a lot of those who are in high power, who are. 1600 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,240 - But he has no hair on his head. 1601 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,600 So, the just the mustache remains? 1602 01:01:58,600 --> 01:01:59,440 - Yeah. 1603 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,560 - I found it very distracting from the one shot 1604 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,600 and people started sending it to me and I was like, 1605 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,800 "Again, I have not seen it be nice, be kind." 1606 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,320 - It's beautifully done, beautifully shot. 1607 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,480 The way that the coloring works for it, 1608 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,480 like there are moments where I thought, 1609 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,120 "Did they just make it a black and white movie?" 1610 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,000 Or did they just tone down so much of the color? 1611 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,640 But still, fantastic. 1612 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,280 - I've seen Wicked like six more times. 1613 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,280 I bought it. 1614 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,640 Look at how many times I've seen. 1615 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,840 - You have a sickness in your head. 1616 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,680 - I do, it's asifying. 1617 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,920 There's several movies that I'm really excited to see. 1618 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,480 So I'm gonna do another blind recommendation 1619 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,400 of the last showgirl. 1620 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,560 - Oh yeah. 1621 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,480 - Yeah, Pamela Anderson and Jamie Lee Curtis 1622 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:47,240 and Keirnan Shipka and Brenda Song, like the cast is phenomenal. 1623 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,800 I've seen a couple of clips of Jamie Lee Curtis. 1624 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,480 She's like a cocktail, waitress and vagus. 1625 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,640 - That movie has been circulating 1626 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,480 around the Burlesque community in Los Angeles. 1627 01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:59,320 - I'm sure it is. 1628 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:00,280 - And everyone's like getting behind that. 1629 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,040 - From what I've seen, it looks really great. 1630 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,200 I'm in this position right now where 1631 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,080 of too many movies I wanna see, 1632 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,720 so I get paralyzed and then I can't choose. 1633 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,360 But if you haven't seen the substance yet, 1634 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,040 I'm gonna plug up a substance again, 1635 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,360 'cause it got an Oscar, no? 1636 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:13,360 - Ooh, yeah. 1637 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:14,760 - Which is massive for horror. 1638 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:15,880 - Well, what's our plugs? 1639 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,160 - We're in a very weird time. 1640 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:18,320 It comes to social media. 1641 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,040 - Yes. - We're in a state of discussion. 1642 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:21,360 We keep saying we're in a state of flux, 1643 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,440 but this is an out of our hands state of flux. 1644 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,400 This is just a weird time where we're on TikTok, 1645 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,680 but again, there were fires and it got taken away 1646 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:30,760 and we'll come back. 1647 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,000 - We're in a very strange time. 1648 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,120 I know. 1649 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:37,720 Hopefully we're able to just provide some sort of distraction 1650 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,560 in this world of chaos and hurt. 1651 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:45,560 And hopefully we have provided some sort of light for that. 1652 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,400 And if you want to support the show, 1653 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,200 there are many ways that you can do so. 1654 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,720 Best way of supporting the show is directly on our Patreon. 1655 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,120 - Yeah, that's really the best place to do it at the moment. 1656 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,400 - If you can't afford to do so 1657 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,880 or don't have an account that is okay, 1658 01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,520 there are many other ways that you can provide support. 1659 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,880 You can follow us on our social media. 1660 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,360 You can share our show with other movie nerds 1661 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:10,720 that are out there. 1662 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,760 Just let them know about what we do here. 1663 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,320 On our social media, you can find us on Blue Sky now. 1664 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,240 We are at HDTNGM. 1665 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,680 We are still on Instagram at how did this not get made 1666 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,240 and still on TikTok. 1667 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,120 - While we can. 1668 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,000 - Let's hope it's still surviving. 1669 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,040 - To change us daily, nobody get a new phone. 1670 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,080 And then we've got an email, 1671 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,760 which if there's something we can do 1672 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,560 to help in the distraction of this crazy chaotic time, 1673 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,280 please email us at... 1674 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,160 - Notgetmade@gmail.com. 1675 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,680 - Yeah, that is an open box for suggestions. 1676 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,520 So join us next time when we go over 1677 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,560 the entirety of the Gambit script. 1678 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,640 - I don't wanna wait a week. 1679 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,400 I mean, I know I don't have to, but... 1680 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:55,240 - Bye bye. 1681 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:56,080 - Bye bye. 1682 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,660 (upbeat music) 1683 01:04:58,660 --> 01:05:01,240 (upbeat music)