Yeah, it's pretty fun to hang out in cemeteries.
Like I said, if you were to look up old pictures, there's a really old picture online,
of Riverview from, I want to say, like the late 1800s, early 1800s of a family
pic-picking there.
So the properties were designed for it.
So it's nice to see people admiring and appreciating the nature of the space.
It's what we want.
Yeah.
Like, it doesn't always have to be a creepy thing.
Like, ooh, we're going to the cemetery.
We're going to do a stay-on.
No, no, no.
It's beautiful.
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Yeah.
We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode.
We're a little bit of deeper insight into our topic.
Like pumpkin butts.
Ooh.
Are we talking about pumpkin booties today?
Ooh.
Sexy little pumpkin booties?
I, you're going to have to tell me.
For those of you that aren't watching the video, I have a little pumpkin bootie pen on my
mic.
So.
They are cheetahs.
That's where that's coming from.
And I have McGruff.
He's not quite at the right angle in this shot.
I'm now realizing.
Oh, no, yeah.
But he's there.
He takes a bite out of crime.
Is that his slogan?
Or is that his own one?
That he does.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's exactly what it says on the pen.
Yeah.
It's too small for me to read from him.
Yeah.
Well, that's fair.
Well, unfortunately today is not about pumpkin booties, but we do have some fun stuff to
talk about.
Like, well, in first, we're just, we're going to do a little something fun.
Okay.
And we're going to do some Patreon shout out.
Yay.
Yeah.
So we have two new tarot biddies at the $5 tier.
Jeannie.
Who we know from Creepy People Chronicles.
She wrote us in a story.
And then she was like, I am going to subscribe.
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Love that for you, Jeannie.
Thank you, Jeannie.
We loved your story.
We loved your follow up email that will probably read some of it on the next Creepy
people Chronicles.
So stay tuned for that.
And we also have Maria at the tarot biddies tier.
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Welcome.
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You have to let us know.
Also, Maria, it's occurring to me that we may need your updated mailing address.
So not to dox anyone, but if you could update your profile on Patreon.
If you want to.
Yeah.
So I just want to ask you a question.
Some people opt out of they don't want mail.
There is just address included.
It's just not.
I'm not able to get things to go to there.
Oh, okay.
Maria.
I did notice though, there are a couple of our Patreon members that don't have addresses.
And they.
Yeah.
They click the little opt out thing, which is fine.
But if you ever want to change your mind, you'll have to send us a little message and let us know that you change your mind.
Because I don't know if Patreon will let us know.
Yeah, they're really not great about that.
So I'm being honest.
Public service announcement.
Patreon service announcement.
Oh, I really like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, they really don't let anyone know about anything.
Yeah.
That's important.
They do send us a lot of newsletters.
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So if you want to, you know, if you have something to say, if you need to say something to us, there is a message button on Patreon that you can send us a little pressure message.
You also have access to us via email.
And our website even lets you leave voicemails.
Yes.
We need more freaking voicemail stories.
I know.
Those were really fun.
I really want to know those, you guys.
So if you can, if you have a story, we would love to hear it.
Yeah.
And you can let us know whether or not you want us to use the audio, the airship meeting.
Yeah.
If you just prefer telling us a story that way, that's okay.
And if you don't want to see us, the audio just, you know, let us know that.
That's totally okay.
We're here for you.
We'll do pretty much whatever you want.
Yeah.
It's true.
Except for feet picks.
Oh, like if you're on Patreon, you get our feet though.
We're on the same wavelength.
No free feet.
Let me see one more thing about Jeannie.
She paid for the whole year.
So she is stuck with us.
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You know who else is so committed.
Oh, Clint.
Oh, yeah, committed Clint.
Committed Clint.
Not committed in the bad way.
Right.
No, just like commit meant also that.
No, you know what?
Clint.
He has subscribed at the creepy people to your for a whole last year.
A whole last lot of us.
Mm hmm.
For better or for worse.
Commit meant Clint.
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We appreciate everyone who helped support us because it helps tremendously in the production of this podcast.
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Which we need help with.
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We just got some very exciting equipment.
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We're not going to tell them.
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It's a surprise.
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Thank you for your help.
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So today we're going to talk about some spooky fun things to do in the Pacific Northwest.
That's the thing I like to do.
This is our third year now of doing it.
I just like to tell you about the fact that you're going to be able to do this.
I like to tell you about fun like Halloweeny's, these, these, these things that you can do right here in the Pacific Northwest.
Yeah.
And we're going to start off with something in Hood River, which I had saved since we did the Hood River episode.
Okay.
That's what I found this and it seems really fucking cool.
Oh, I'm excited.
They have a Hood River Halloween train ride.
That sounds so cool.
It sounds so cute and quaint.
Yes.
Oh, we love anything quaint.
Yes, we do.
It is Mount Hood Railroad's Phantom of the Rail.
Oh.
And they're doing it this year on October 25th and 26th.
So you still have time if there's tickets left, you'll have to go see.
Okay.
My funny typo here was I wrote the 25th and the 265th.
Oh, not a date in October.
Sure isn't.
But you know, I applaud the effort.
She loves spooky season so much she was trying to add another 200-ish days.
To October.
Yeah.
I mean, all year of October, let's do this.
Let's do this.
They're also doing the train ride on the 30th and 31st.
They have like two, four days, sorry, four days of the spooky train ride.
Well, it's like two weekends.
Yeah.
So two days on two separate weekends.
I was going to ask because I thought it was kind of interesting that you would do the 25th and the 26th.
But all halos eve.
But that is the reason I didn't say weekends is because the 30th and 31st are Wednesday Thursday.
Yeah, I think the 25th and 26th are Fridays out of the day.
So you have our chance.
Yeah.
And I didn't really see any specific info on what actually happens this year on the train ride.
But I found a traveloregon.com article from 2022 or 23.
It said 22 updated in 2023.
Oh, interesting.
So I assume it's from 2022.
Yeah.
That says it's a night ride through the forest with Halloween themed narration.
Spooky.
I know.
And this particular year, 2022 had a thriller flash dance performance.
And it sounded like that was at not like in the train itself.
But they made a stop at like a creepy factory area.
And they did like a flash dance.
Yes, because you have to have the appropriate backdrop.
Yeah.
And the appropriate amount of space.
Right.
But you know, the move in the shaken.
I love how this is my thriller, Dan.
You guys, that's how it's done.
Right.
Something.
A derivative of that, if you will.
I don't have the appropriate space.
Yeah.
So no, that's true.
This is not the proper acoustics.
You didn't make this request.
I thought you were going to go the other way.
We don't have room for the activities.
And that's, I mean, yes, that is what he is saying.
You know, don't have the space.
Don't have the.
Yeah, just things aren't right.
No, only good for podcasting.
So they still at a desk.
Right.
Which is what we're doing.
They do also have food and drink available for pre-purchase.
I heard food and drink food and drink.
And the Halloween train contains content that is geared toward mature audiences.
Writer discretion is advised.
Free feet.
Free spooky feet.
Actually, you have to pay us.
It's not free.
But.
Well, right.
But once you're on the right.
Right.
The theater free.
The spooky feet are free.
Okay.
They do recommend 13 and up.
Okay.
They also have a VIP option, which is called poison.
It's called poison.
RIP.
Which I don't really want to get poison on a train, but no.
This sounds like good poison because it involves booze.
Oh, delicious.
So you get to ride in a luxury car with a private bartender.
Ooh.
And it comes with complimentary snacky and a non-alcoholic beverage.
So you can have a normal drinky along with your poison.
Something to wet your whistle.
What are we just talking about that?
Yeah.
And I was like, why do you sound like my grandpa?
I am a dad slash grandpa on the inside.
Yeah.
For sure.
Additional food and beverage available for purchase.
Okay.
So that's all I have about the train.
It looks really fun.
I would love to do it, but I get like kind of motion sick.
So I'm not sure how I would take a train ride.
I feel like trains are pretty low impact.
I get cars sick if I try to read a long text message in a car.
And I feel like I generally do okay on trains.
I don't know.
I've been on the max and I just, I get sick on the max.
And if I'm facing forward, it's better.
I feel like it's a more, I feel like it's a more constant motion.
Facing in the correct direction is very important.
I will say don't ever for the love of God, get on the chunnel.
Going from Paris to London.
I won't hungover a red wine hangover.
And then pick the seat faces the opposite way of the direction you're traveling.
Don't do that.
Yeah, I feel like I'm getting sick like thinking about that.
Yeah.
No, I mean, I think I am also having PTSD.
I mean, I'm just saying, you know, not me personally, just like a friend, you know,
I think I'm the friend.
Moral of the story is maybe we won't get on a train or we'll have to test it out before we pay money to go on the spancy.
Yeah, yeah, we'll see.
Definitely make sure you get it settled.
Tum-tum.
Yeah.
Do you want to move on to something really fun?
I just learned about, okay, this is exciting.
It's not none of this is scary, you guys.
This is spooky fun.
Okay, I've been lied to before.
Okay, trust me.
I've been hurt before.
Have you seen practical magic?
Obviously, one of our favorite movies.
Love fucking practical magic and I learned something very recently that I had no idea about.
I was so fucking excited, you guys.
I have to take a trick. I'm so excited.
Oh my god. Well, don't leave us hanging.
The downtown scenes and practical magic were filmed in a little seaside town called Coupeville, Washington.
On Whidby Island.
Yeah.
Did you know this?
I did.
Did you find this out this year like me or did you already know?
I don't think I previously knew. I think I stumbled upon this a few weeks ago.
This popped up in my Google, you know, it has like suggestions of things of like,
articles to click and a practical magic and I was like, no, fucking way.
I think that's exactly what happened to me too.
It's so funny.
I wonder how many other people this happened to, but.
Well, I will say.
Don't say anything because that's in my episode.
You don't even know what it was going to say.
Okay.
Oh, I went to Ravens manor.
Oh, okay.
Last night.
We went for Chris's birthday to celebrate for also his mom and his brother, some fun life events that are going on for them.
And yeah, so we went to Ravensmanor.
We did the photo booth.
Oh, fun.
I haven't done the photo booth yet because it was like pretty new when we went last and then we forgot about it.
Oh, yeah, I specifically told Chris.
I was like, don't.
Yeah, I want to do that.
We did that.
And then also there is a tequila tasting experience.
Oh, named, I don't know, something about Sanderson sisters...
Oh, like my shirt.
Why would they name the tequila after the Sanderson sisters?
Midnight Margaritas.
That's a different movie.
No, but I feel like it's just a vibe.
But like, why wouldn't they name it?
All of the witchy.
Like, I don't know.
Sanderson sisters.
And yeah, it just, they took all of the witchy news and they're just like.
And they just smashed it together and like a play dough ball of a bunch of different colors.
They brought it out to us.
And I do have several short fun video clips and some photos.
We're going to put something together.
It's so cute.
Sure.
What's the people?
So cute.
Okay.
I'm so sorry.
But bothers me now though that they named it Sanderson sisters.
Yeah.
I know I was like, I'm so excited.
I was in the, it's funny though that I'm wearing the shirt.
Yeah.
It all connects.
It all circles back.
It's back to real practical magic and not the Sanders and sisters.
We are, what is their name?
What's their last name in there?
Oh God.
Okay.
All right.
Who knows.
Typing.
Oh, it's.
Owens.
Yeah.
Okay.
Back to the.
Owens.
Sisters.
So all of the buildings in this little seaside town were painted white for the filming of practical magic.
Oh, that's interesting.
I know.
But they have since repainted them back to their original colors.
They're not all white, but I thought that was like kind of interesting.
Yeah.
I never really, I guess I never really noticed in the film that all of the buildings are white.
Are they supposed to be in the Pacific Northwest in the movie?
No, I think they're like on the East Coast.
That's exactly.
I was like, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be like based on the East Coast, right?
I think the white buildings on the coast, that's way more like it.
To me, the white buildings along the Eastern seaboard, like it just thing.
Yeah.
I feel like it's not as much of a thing here on the West Coast.
So it makes sense because they're like, we're just trying to make this coast look like that coast.
You should Google real quick where it was set because I always just assumed it was East Coast because which is.
Yeah.
I never really thought about it being connected to Pacific Northwest.
So I wonder like why they shot it here.
New England.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
The next part, like slightly crushed my little creepy heart.
No.
Like when we talked about the Beetlejuice house.
Uh-oh.
So there is a lot of movie houses that I'm totally in love with.
Yeah.
But the freaking practical magic house is like my all time favorite.
I feel like it's everyone's.
Oh no, what happened to it?
The practical magic house was right here in the Pacific Northwest as well on San Juan Island.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Unfortunately, it was just a shell built for the filming.
Yeah.
And then taken down.
So it was not a real house.
Do we know which of the San Juan Islands?
It was on.
It was on San Juan Island.
Okay.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
There is a San Juan.
But there's like a strip of islands that are all categorized as like the San Juan Islands.
Like there's orcas.
Okay.
Yeah.
I was trying to like kind of Google it.
And I'll.
You're like.
Yeah.
Although the interior of the home was also just a set.
It was modeled after a real home located on San Juan Valley Road.
So it was modeled after a real house, the interior.
I love it.
So while I was researching this, I actually stumbled upon a little blog by our friend Aimwwee in the
PNW.
Stop it.
I know.
So yeah, Aimee did a little blog post about this.
And they in her blog post, it says they just announced summer of 2024 that practical magic
to is being filmed.
Really?
It will keep updating her blog as things unfold.
So I will put a link to her blog in there.
So keep an eye on that.
And then there's more info and pictures because she actually goes to these places and takes
her selfs if you want to see pictures of that.
Go to her blog.
Check it out.
Super cute.
We're going to be doing some more field trips coming up now.
Yeah.
So much free time.
Now that I'm done being a wedding coordinator.
Yeah.
We can go crazy.
Hit the 10.
Payton it right.
And or why?
To say.
This town actually still celebrates every year with a practically magic movie night.
Love it.
I know.
So fucking cute.
And then this year is October 24th, 25th and 26th.
And when I went to the site, I saw this adorable picture of one of the buildings.
It's aqua gifts in the photo.
And it has like the outline of the witches on the roof.
Like when they have their little umbrellas and they go to jump off the other picture on
the roof.
I'm so cute.
I'm teet cataloging.
Oh.
Very fitting for the day.
What do you sure it's say?
Oh, yeah.
I'm just here for the tea.
What's behind me?
Teet cup.
It's so weird.
I know.
Maybe we'll talk about that later.
As soon as I came back in here, you're like, you changed into that.
And I was like, I mean, I'm wearing it.
I'm wearing it.
I don't.
I never know.
And I got all the way to my closet.
And it's on.
It's like.
I'm just going to be like, what's the point?
What's the point?
50 feet that way.
I just, I didn't want to come back and ask you like, what am I supposed to wear to be on theme?
And you don't even need to ask.
Yeah.
Telepathically or something with tea.
What did you say?
Did we say it out loud?
Just here for the tea.
Sometimes we forget you can't see us all the time.
We'll go to YouTube's.
Yes.
And all the paint trail.
So along with the screening of the movie practical magic, there is a costume contest, trivia
and filming anecdotes, music and popcorn.
And of course, midnight margaritas.
Yeah.
They happen all night, not just at midnight.
And they do a bit of wine.
In case you don't want to margarita, but you should.
And then you can see the movie.
The town of course has fun spooky events that aren't movie related.
So if you want to just go there and hang out and do their other spooky stuff, you can.
Why?
Well, these are cool though.
They have a torch light parade and street dance on October 26th.
And the great coupeville pumpkin race on the 27th.
Oh, that's fun.
Like they just, what do they do?
Roll their pumpkins?
I don't know.
I'm guessing.
If you don't, you know, want to visit coupeville.
If it's like too cute for you, you can go to Hillsboro, which we've never heard of.
I know, which is a suburb of Portland kind of.
And there is a witchy shop there that we've talked about before.
We've had them on the pod through the veil.
And on 10 30, they're having a family friendly, Samhain celebration.
And they're doing smores around the fire, sipping cider and or hot cocoa while a kid friendly movie is playing.
Stop it.
Halloween movie.
So it's like, you know, or something kid friendly, which is perfect because if it's kid friendly, that means I can watch it.
But if you don't care about kids, if you don't have kids, you know, whatever, there is an adult, Samhain celebration on the 31st of Halloween.
Halloween ages 16 and up.
So their website says to join us around the fire while the veil is at its thinnest as we honor and communicate with question mark those who have crossed to the other side.
They will also be having a lantern dance performance by the PDX dance and witches.
That's so cool.
Oh, it sounds so fun.
So they also have an ancestor altar where you can bring photos or something to represent a loved one who has crossed over.
And they'll also have offerings and candles to lights if you want to go and do kind of like what this holiday is really about.
They have that option for you.
I love it.
Speaking of through the veil, I went to one of their tea leaf reading classes the other day.
It was so freaking fun and cute and I got you get to keep your little tea cup that you know.
So pretty.
Mine has like bugs on it and stuff and I just thought it was so cute and appropriate for me.
Yes.
And the tea I got is called going no contact tea.
Shut the fuck up.
Do you want to sniff it?
Yeah.
Please sniff it.
It is.
Oh god, it's going to be like too small for me to read.
Okay, I you do it on the side there.
Okay.
Oh, it smells so good.
Only the finest ingredients medium caffeine content.
It is black tea, orange and tangerine pieces, calendula, safflower, mary gold, sunflower petals.
And that's it.
Natural flavors caffeine.
So good though.
Oh my gosh.
And then see you like they teach you how to these are classes.
So she'll teach you how to do this stuff so you can do it on your own at home.
But I got I just thought I got the most interesting shapes.
I got like I thought it was a bad at first, but it was more like a butterfly shape or a moth or something.
It smells so good.
I got like a snake shape.
I got some other cool things I took pictures of it.
But then there was like these two sunflower petals with like two little orange pieces both sitting in and I don't know why it just like
reminded me of like me and you like on a plane like traveling somewhere.
Oh, we're gonna try.
And we are.
So I don't know.
I thought that was cute, but I got pretty good pictures of the shapes and stuff that were in my cup.
Did you read this quote?
No, I didn't read because it's hard to read.
No, I mean, but did you read it?
Period.
No, I didn't read anything on that.
What does it say?
It is the kindest act of self preservation, self love and self care.
Oh, it is how we can heal our trauma.
So true.
Merchants of nostalgia.
Life has become busy.
It's time to slow down and safer.
A portion of the proceeds support suicide awareness.
Oh, I love that.
That's so funny yesterday I went to the out of the darkness walk, which is suicide awareness and prevention.
Interesting.
There's more.
It's very tiny.
So I see why you.
Yeah.
It's not easy going no contact, but we get it.
This tea will help you in times of guilt and post-gas lighting.
It's so perfect for me.
It's interesting because so they have a bunch of those.
I think it's because it's a lot of people who are in love with it.
I think it's because I think it's because it's a lot of people who are in love with it.
I think it's because I think it's because I think it's because it's a lot of people who are in love with it.
I think it's because I think it's because it's a lot of people who are in love with it.
So it's like, oh, this one's probably like going to be my tea.
I'm going to Google something really quick before I share.
Just so you guys know, all of the teas are available for sale at through mail.
They're not a sponsor.
We just love them and they love us.
Do you know where this tea came from?
No.
I didn't read the bottles.
That's also very small.
Montana.
Oh.
Oddly enough, Eureka.
Montana.
Interesting.
I didn't even know there was a Eureka in Montana.
I thought that was our thing.
Yeah.
You know, is there just Eureka's all over the state?
I think so.
Look at my tea back here.
It's in Lincoln County.
Okay.
Interesting.
Oh, wow.
It's basically in Canada.
Oh, wow.
Hey, Canada.
Hey, girl.
Hey.
Look, it's nine miles south of the, of the, of the,
Canadian, US border.
Still, it's, so it's PNW, totally Montana.
Yeah.
We just did an episode on Montana.
That's why you brought it up.
You're right, it has lived in Montana.
Yeah.
Weird.
Eureka Montana.
Who knew?
We know.
So, I think we've talked about this on the pod.
Remind me if this sounds like not something anyone is going to be familiar with.
I'm pretty sure we've talked about the pumpkin that I won when I was a kindergartner, right?
Okay.
I was like, please don't tell me that I am thinking of told this story and I've just told it before and in different situations.
Yeah.
Nobody's going to know what I'm talking about.
No, you did.
And you said that you were trying to find a picture, but I don't think you over did.
I could never find one.
Yeah.
I think I'll probably just have to go and like rummage through bins on bins on bins at my mom's house.
One day we'll show it to find it.
Yeah.
If I could turn it down like that bit just yours, but this pumpkin that I'm currently looking at makes my pumpkin look
a little bit.
Relic.
Yes.
Okay.
So I found this article and I just was like, we got a we have to pay respect to the great.
And I'm going to give you a great enormous pumpkin of you know, yesterday and we like big pumpkin around here.
And the last.
So the article is entitled enormous Oregon grown pumpkin wins national pumpkin way off.
Oh, national damn girl.
She's working on that.
She took two seas.
That's right.
In a battle to grow the heaviest pumpkin in the nation.
A massive pumpkin grown in Oregon was crowned the winner on Saturday.
So this article is dated 10 for.
I'm guessing it was the weekend prior to this.
So like the last weekend of September.
Well, you say, oh, I see, I see, okay.
Yeah, the article was like two days ago.
Yeah.
Or yeah, yeah, 10 for was like two days ago.
So, um, okay.
Portland, Oregon, pulling one of our major news network.
Point six.
Yeah.
That's right.
The first place pumpkin nicknamed Hank the tank.
Was grown by Jim Sherwood of Milano.
Wow.
And now we told point six news.
The pumpkin took 108 days to grow before entering the 2024 national pumpkin way off at bishops.
Pumpkin farm in Wheatland, California.
Um, okay.
So I just need you to remember that this pumpkin came from Milano, Oregon.
Okay.
Where is which is it's like in the direction of like Oregon city can be out that way.
Um, before I tell you how much this bumper weighed.
Okay.
My pumpkin weighed less than after the comma.
There's a comma.
Oh, my God.
In the end, Hank the tank weighed in at 2453 pounds.
Pretty sure my pumpkin weighed 367 and it was the most enormous piece of produce I'd ever seen.
How big.
Cassie, I will show you the picture.
You are going to add absolutely shit your brain through your ear.
It is ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
I kind of thought this was a fake prop pumpkin.
This is a real pumpkin.
What?
Yeah.
After 23 years growing giant pumpkins, you can sum up this year by saying old dogs really can learn new tricks.
Sherwood said, this was my first year growing in a greenhouse.
Oh, and I really focused on networking with other top growers, sharing tips and growing methods.
And it certainly paid off.
Wow.
Okay, Cassie, I am going to air drop this article to you and just be prepared for your brain to leave your school.
I'm ready.
My brain is not home at the moment, but I am so ready.
Oh my god.
Can you believe that?
It's so big.
Like, how does this even happen?
I don't know.
I have.
And it only took like a hundred and what.
How many days I think he said a hundred.
Okay, so let's see.
Took a hundred and eight days to grow before entering.
The 2024 national pumpkin way off.
So I'm wondering if it kept growing after he entered.
Oh, I don't know.
I just feel like that.
It's a storm.
It's like enough days to get this big pumpkin.
I don't know.
Well, that's just it is like he's obviously using all of the tips and the tricks and trying to get her role thick.
And then I'm just going to start with the new pumpkin.
I'm going to start with the new pumpkin.
Well, listen, okay, it's not that tall.
When it's horizontal like this, I'm still taller than the pumpkin.
If she could stand upright, she would tall.
That would be different.
Well, what a great addition to the sepus of that you added.
Thank you, Caitlyn.
I just was I literally was just thinking I was like, oh, maybe we'll do like a little patreon bonus because we.
You know, do like fun little like news paper articles and things that like, you know, just whatever.
Just something that would be fun to share.
And I thought, oh, you know what?
While I'm thinking of it.
So I don't forget.
And then we just never share it.
And yeah, so I mean, do it with it.
What's your who?
I like it.
I love that.
I love big things.
Very own brand.
With your pumpkin butt.
My pumpkin butt.
I was looking at this.
Like what's her butt?
What's her name?
One of the sanderson sisters.
Winifred.
Oh, okay.
Winifred.
I was like, I can.
I feel like the actresses names come to the front of my head.
And then I'm like, well, I think she was named Sarah.
That was this one.
That was yeah.
Yeah.
Mary. Winifred.
Oh, Mary.
Kathy Najimmy.
She's going to be.
I am in.
I don't know.
She's going to be in St. Helens this year for the spirit of Halloweentown.
I think I did.
I posted like a little story on it.
Love it.
I can't remember the dates.
But if you Google it, I'm sure you could find it.
But I was like, I want to go see her.
But I'm so busy.
I know.
That's so fun.
Yeah.
That is all I have.
But right after this, there is going to be an interview with Margaret.
And we're going to talk about some of the fun tours and stuff that they have going on.
Not just during spooky season, but all year.
And if you missed the Lone Fir episode that we did, you can go and search,
searchy that search.
Yeah.
For cemetery, I'll probably link it for you.
I was going to say we can link to it in the show now.
But I hope that like, I like to tell people like, remind people they can actually
search for episodes because I kind of find it.
And I'm like, oh, well, we'll just scroll this until I find it.
We could be scrolling through the window.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Am I taking a minute?
Because sometimes, you know, I can only link to one thing.
And usually it's just our website.
So if you want to listen on Apple or something, you're going to have to probably search for.
Sure.
And then I think after the interview, we're just going to pull a card for Spooky season.
Spoon.
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Okay, I am here with Margaret and I just wanted to ask you quickly how you are affiliated with the lone fir cemetery.
So I'm a part of a nonprofit 501c3 organization called Friends of Lone Fir Cemetery.
And I've been involved in that organization for about 12 years.
The organization, yeah, the organization has been around since 2000s.
We're going to head our 25 year anniversary next year as an organization.
We had high hopes for our 20th anniversary but then the pandemic hit.
So we had to put that a big pin in that, which is a huge bummer.
So I'm kind of looking forward to next year for that.
But I've been around for like I said 12 years next year will be lucky number 13.
And I got involved just doing headstone workshops and then I segwayed over into doing tours.
And then I got on the board and you know, I took over all the social media.
So I do all of that.
I do all the communication.
I do all the sort of press release stuff.
I do stuff like this.
I was on KPTV last week.
So I make sure that we're getting the publicity that we need to some extent.
We're a pretty small rough and tumble group.
So we're not a huge organization, a huge nonprofit, but we do our best.
Yeah, we just try to procure volunteers and stewardship within the cemetery.
What got you interested in volunteering and working with a cemetery?
I always love cemeteries.
It's always been a thing of mine.
I've been to some time lead a part which is a annual semi annual whatever event that the organization had put on.
And head put on years before I joined and it was really into it.
Then I started to go to some of the regular tours that got really into that.
And then I went to headstone workshops and it's just started to evolve.
You know, from there I was like, I want to be a part of what this organization is doing.
I really want to create stewardship.
I wanted to volunteer.
So kind of checked a lot of boxes for me.
So I'm really in the Portland history.
So not just the history of the cemetery is a being a taffophile, whatever it's also really in the Portland history.
And I think the birth of Portland history can be most things can be circled back to the cemetery.
That's interesting that you say the birth of it could be because it's a place of death.
Right.
But it's like death and birth.
There's so much nature in the cemetery.
It's like you're walking through like a nature park.
It's so beautiful.
Yeah, a lot of cemeteries back in the day.
That the architecture, I mean, that cemetery in particular, the one for wasn't really architecturally designed.
Maybe let's say in the way that we're review or other cemeteries like Greenwood or any of the magnificent seven over in London.
There were architecturally designed to be like parks.
So they retreated as such.
They were designed to such long for a cemetery.
It was a little more,
you know, less intentional than that.
It was really just a pioneer cemetery that grew into what you see it being today.
But back in the day, the intention of cemeteries would be for to be treated like parks.
So that's why you know, the trees and all the design and stuff.
So it is it creates a massive green space within.
The city, you know, cemeteries along with parks.
Lower the heat in urban areas.
Yeah, just from all the trees and such.
So, you know, it's a lot of sense.
It's amazing to me that it started like with there was just like the one tree there.
Yeah, and then it wasn't originally called loan for cemeteries called Mount Crawford cemetery.
And then prior to that, it was just the land claim from the Stephens.
So, you know, they came over in the Oregon Trail, got their land claim.
And you know, it was very traditional to take the most least productive corner of your property and bury your family there.
Fun fact, Emmor, when they came over, he was the oldest, how do I phrase this, the oldest, the earliest born person he was born in 1777, 76, something like that.
He didn't last very long in town after they came over.
He passed away.
He was older and they buried him there.
And there’s even a dispute on whether that's even the Stephens land claim act or not, because the lines were so fuzzy."
Oh, oh.
And they parceled out the land and did all that.
You were supposed to do it on, I want to say on low tide and he didn't high tide.
So, it expand the Stephens land claim.
So, there's probably only amongst nerds, uh, to speed on whether Emmor was actually even buried on the Stevens property or not.
Oh, wow, that is so interesting.
I had no idea.
I was like, you know, going to do a ring about it, but it's like just on the precipice of being another land claim act.
And so, that block one over there where that road is, that's really the original part of the cemetery.
Because that's the original entrance to the cemetery, because that side, it wasn't 26.
It was that corner.
Yeah, it's pretty fun to hang out in cemeteries.
Like I said, if you were to look up old pictures, there's a really old picture online, of Riverview from, I want to say, the late 1800s, early 1800s of a family pic to King.
There, so it was the properties were designed for it.
So, it's nice to see people admiring and appreciating the interest space.
It's what we want.
Yeah.
Like it doesn't always have to be a creepy thing.
Like, ooh, we're going to the cemetery.
We're going to do a stay on.
Not at all.
It's beautiful.
I mean, people have different perspectives and takes on cemeteries.
But certainly it can be tranquil.
It can be nice.
It can be beautiful.
It can be.
There's a rose garden and loan for cemetery.
There's all kinds of trees.
The bird of lions of organ.
I have to remember to get the name right because there's no longer the auto on society.
Do their annual bird count at loan for because there's so many different birds that migrate and hang out in the.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
And at any given point, you can see all the different kinds of birds in there.
I wanted to ask about the tours.
What kind of tours you guys do.
And I saw that you might be sold out of the.
Oh, sold out.
Oh, my gosh.
We still want to talk about them so that people maybe next year can get a jump on getting their tickets.
Yeah, or just come on to our regular tours.
So we do.
I'll just kind of dial back.
So are we do monthly tours.
So every first Saturday, we do a tour called stories and stone.
And the intention of that tour is to really not have to be so much historical or chronological than the going zones of loan for.
It's really the unique space that loan for is some of the artistic headstone,
some of the meanings of some of the headstones and the different art and the different representation and woodman of the world or hey,
this headstone means this.
This is some Victorian art.
So we talk a little bit about that to capture just sort of what would be kind of like the rest of the cemetery for a lack of a better phrase.
And then the second Saturday is our.
Is darkle tour.
And so we really want to educate people.
It's part of our tentative is a nonprofit with an omission is to educate people because I really feel like if more people are educated.
They'll have a kinship and a stewardship to the property and they're not only less likely to vandalize it.
I feel like a lot of vandalism is unintentional.
Like people hang out there.
They want to party.
I don't know what they want to do and accidentally knock things over.
They bring their dog into the cemetery or whatever and.
And then so on and so forth.
But I think you're more likely to cover it the space and create stewardship if you're.
Pretty invested in either cleaning it or maintaining it or you know the history of it.
So we do that.
The third Saturday is April through September.
We do headstone workshop.
Throw we teach folks how to clean the headstones get some help.
Volunteer help to go out through the cemetery and clean some up.
And then the fourth Saturday.
And the tours are all your long is our women's tour.
So we just talk and highlight the prominent women that are buried throughout loan for cemetery.
And then every October we try to do something interesting or fun.
So in years past we did a tour and we still do a tour called tour of untimely departures.
It's a lot of work.
A lot of investment if we decide we're going to do that tour.
We we decided like January and February.
Pretty early in the year because it takes so many volunteers.
It takes so much of what we do to put that on.
We have 1200 people that walk through the cemetery between five and nine.
Four hours to his leave every eight minutes.
And it's just a lot.
It's a lot of coordination.
It's a lot of event management.
Things that are in and outside of our wheelhouse right.
We're a nonprofit wanting to do modest tours, educate people on for and all of a sudden we put this really large.
Massive event.
That's just a lot of work.
So we don't do it every year because of that.
So it doesn't it doesn't allow us to focus on other things like if we had done tour of untimely departures this year.
We may not have introduced the women's tour, which is a newer tour this year.
Or the journal club, which is on Sundays by a volunteer.
We just don't have time to ingratiate other things and yeah, so anyways.
But then we try to go well a couple years.
This is the third time we've done tombs don't Twilight.
We thought well let's do something a little less.
Still something cool a little more dial down volunteer wise dial down.
We're not getting tense and block out the street doing it at night to write it.
We'll do it right at dusk because it's a pretty cool vibe if you go into the cemetery now about 536 right around now.
It's a little darker in the cemetery that it is ever well since because it's really is a cool really neat vibe.
So we're like let's do something then less permitting because it's not at night.
Whatever we're not going to close on the cemetery.
Let's do it and we the couple of times we did it was really successful.
People were really into it.
So then this year since last year was pretty successful with tour of untimely departures really go okay.
We're not going to do for acronym for us to we're not going to do to this year.
Let's do this but the biggest complaint that we get isn't just that we don't do to every year is that how can we don't offer it more than one night for all the reasons I mentioned right.
Well, let's do let's do this tour but let's do it every Saturday in the month of October.
So this year is the first time that we've done it more than one night.
Oh wow. So that's very new.
So every other time we've done it it's always been like the Saturday before Halloween.
We did four or five tours 25 30 people each tour and we're called good.
But I thought well if we're going to we're going to switch it up and disappoint people.
Let's at least try to lean into the biggest request that we get besides the tour itself is is to do it more than once, which is the goal.
Well, I'm so jealous of everyone who got tickets because I did not.
Yeah, it's it's pretty cool. It's it's so incentive each stop.
The actors there's no actors portray anything. It's really the tour guide.
The way we're seeing is the tour guide is like the ghost and they're dressed up and they're going to so instead of having 10 volunteers just right there and each stop.
We just have the one tour guide. So we've already reduced our head count of volunteers.
Doesn't make it less fun. It just that it's less probably a little less impactful than tide but and it's not at night.
It's still cool though. We're still excited. If anyone did any of the tours on untimely departures the last couple of years.
We didn't repeat any of the stops. So you feel like going on last year.
I've got a ticket is it going to be the same thing. It's not we we try really hard not to recycle that often so that you feel like you.
You're getting something new or different. Awesome. Yeah. But hey, you know like what I was getting at too is we we were doing it every Saturday.
But we still have our historical tours and our wins tour and all that stuff in October and November.
So if folks want to come out November has a really high turnout with tours. It's not quite quite cold.
It's really beautiful in the cemetery with fall in the trees and leaves and stuff.
So I encourage people to give that a shot. I know it's not as cool but it is still pretty cool.
It's still pretty fun. So before it gets to be super wet and dark and cold and it's really good time to come out.
And all the funds that go through for tours and events like that I'll go back to us as a nonprofit.
So in so many ways you're supporting us in our ability to keep the lights on so to speak.
So tour supplies or our website domain to pay for our insurance in order to be a nonprofit.
All the things that you know.
Do you guys do any of like the fixing up of the monuments or anything like that or would that be a separate.
Yeah, it really just depends. So sometimes we're involved.
It isn't our property. It's Metro. So I was just out there on Friday night.
Saw a few headstones that had been knocked over and I will immediately send pictures over to one of the main folks.
The sort of the head of the park rangers name is Monty Woods. Really great guy really in to what we do very supportive of the organization.
So I'm always really trying to send off information to him pretty quickly and they'll get people to come out.
It depends. It's their property. We're just sort of like in their sandbox.
But if there's opportunities to support and help replace headstones or putting headstones.
I had a redmond's an example where she did not have a headstone. We paid for it. We put it in.
We partner with an elementary school. I want to say almost 10 years ago and they helped raise money for Gus Waterford, which is one of the first African American like firefighters in Portland.
They came up with a certain amount of money we kicked in the rest. He has headstone now.
So ace of love joy all the outlining and black that you see. We helped we've helped restore and put that back.
So yeah, we tried to do our very best to help support and restore when we went in where we can.
So do you know anything about the bottler brothers, Mosin, yeah, the bottler. We've done a few like fundraiser for that.
The problem is is the bottler and it's it is what it is. I've been shouldn't say go it's from is that the family lineage is still in Portland.
Oh, it's really theirs. Right. We can't just go in and be like we're going to redo it and restore it.
It's really them that can do it. So the family line is still alive in well in Portland.
Oh, wow. And so we did invite them out to a few of our events and such, but we can't just go in and make changes.
The cemetery is on the historical registry. We there's just retake and do diligence. We can't just go on and be like we're going to improve this.
That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. So yeah, so that's kind of the deal with that is we have to be it's you know it's their it's their headstone is their property.
So same for me like personally like the bottler. The bottler crypt is something that is really you know really cool and I would hate to have it continued to degrade.
It's one of the main anchors in the cemetery, but for me like the crown jewel sort of speak is the mucleic mausoleum. Yeah, that is.
And so it's just at the point where it's just the A and the C on the name now. Yeah.
And so to me like that's the that's the bigger concern is that mausoleum right there. Is there any plans to get that fixed up? No.
The family the family still is alive in well in Portland. They became the curse. Oh, okay.
So there are like thick the most recent where it was probably about 10 years ago and tidied there. I believe we're not there.
There's still some empty spots. Oh, it's really up to them. So I don't know why or what I don't know if they see the value and it would be millions of dollars to get a fix and restored.
So those that's a bigger thing right where we try and like let's help raise a couple thousand dollars to put in a headstone like that's kind of where we're at.
And what we try to do we try to low be a little more low key and grassroots that would have to be really big grant writing and.
And they have the loan for foundation, which is a separate foundation. They're also nonprofit and they're sort of an out shoot of friends of loan for some of the original folks from friends of loan for started the loan for foundation.
But they're big sort of task at hand and their focus has been block 14. Yes, that is a huge project that I was definitely heading towards asking you about.
Do you know anything about the timeline of that? I it's hard to say because it's really again it's Metro's property and they did get a bond.
And they're really good for it. So there was a bond that got you know earmarked for that space and I know loan for foundation has raised a lot of money for it.
They've partnered with all the appropriate folks for the space and the design. I've seen the design of all so many times in the 10 plus years I've been involved in.
In loan for it. It's it's just cost and different measures and you know, oh we want to water feature, but you can't really have a water feature because someone will probably master that or.
Who's going to maintain that it's all about you know, perpetuity like let's look at this in 10 years from now right yeah and how will it look and who's going to maintain it right will be dilapidated you know so I think they've had to reframe how it's going to look and how it's going to be so that it's a cool space.
It was also going to be more of a shared space for hot learning patients, but that's been more.
Dial back because there is more of an emphasis on the Chinese that are over there yeah, which is definitely understandable totally yeah and so they've really wanted to make sure that they have it all they'll be mentioned of it of hot learning patients.
But I think the focus of the space rightfully so it's going to be bought for block 14 is going to be the Chinese immigrants and folks that were in turn there so.
That I mean for as far as I can tell I haven't seen you know we were kind of in the sidelines rooting for it definitely the loan for foundation sort of the main focal group that's really kind of driven it through the end I want to say maybe next year I mean I know they've had a lot of for lack of a better phrase they've had a lot of like like you know community like you can speak up you know say hey what do you think of this design or you know like town hall type stuff for the community.
And so yeah they want this they wanted the public to be involved in what they thought I should look like and so there's been many of that in the last year or so I don't know where we are in the stage of it but I definitely know the money's been earmarked and it were the finishing line for sure that's awesome I can't wait for that.
Yeah start and then I don't know how long it would take them to build it but it just seems like such a nice peaceful sanctuary spot to go yeah.
I did do an episode on and I just research stuff you know from the internet so I did read that there was a little girl's angel statue a data and it was stolen and it said it had been replaced but then when I went to go find it it's gone.
Yeah she's been stolen again I'm not sure the draw to her is to why she's stolen so often I want to say maybe three or four years ago she was someone knocked her down and she's not like five or six years old they don't understand like and I remember picking I found her on the ground and I was at
I was at Lifer because I spent a lot of time there surprised and I found her on the ground and she's an extremely heavy little girl the statue or the headstone they put her back and then she stole again I don't know if we have her back or not that is just so sad.
But it's she's been stolen like three or four times I know I'm not really yeah again it's it's really sad she's a little girl it's like we were long.
I know I went and I spent some time after because I did do the headstone cleaning and so I went and wandered around and looked at all the headstones we talked about so I spent a lot of time with her because I just felt so bad that she doesn't have her little angel statue I don't know why I felt really drawn to her too but maybe that's what other people are feeling.
They just went really cool garden art you know I can go in a whole like speech about vandalism and why people do that and I don't know it's we saw an uptick of it during covid actually during the pandemic we saw an uptick of it that just lent us to think that the were our presence does to tour it.
I don't like to think that highly of ourselves but at the time you know that was sort of the birth of friends of loan for to begin with is to create stewardship and to minimize vandalism and to clean up the cemetery and all that and.
I think if people feel there's a presence there that they're less likely to do it but during the pandemic obviously we're wrong lockdown and yeah we weren't as out there as much and so we just started a really see vandalism kick up and it was happening all throughout the city so it wasn't exclusive to loan for but it's very upsetting it is the soldier on the soldiers want even is pretty much destroyed so that guy's not going back up and that was one of the first things that loan for dead was restore the the soldier he'd been knocked down before.
Rebronson put him back out was one of the first things that the front of loan for some time to read it so in fact if you go back and you look there's a movie not a good one by the way but I highly recommend watching the first 10 minutes of it and then do what you want after that just started off.
But it's a movie called body evidence which is a Madonna movie.
Oh and it's filmed in Portland.
I feel like I've seen this movie it's totally not good but you probably maybe at the time wasn't looking it with the lens you're going to look at it now so go back that gets free you can watch it on any streaming right or maybe even find it on YouTube or something but she you know with a woman scored I don't actually remember the story but she lives in pittic mansion by the way.
And then something about her husband dies on she kills him I don't know if that's the premise of the story whatever but he's buried it loan for.
So loan for cemetery but in the background of the movie this is how nerded out we is no one will hear people get you can see this older's monument without the soldier because the movie came out before friends of loan for cemetery.
You know what I mean and so you can still see some of the glass in the mausoleum used to be so there's that entrance point of the McCley mausoleum where there's the gate on that gate it says Kerr because they became the curse but if you were walk all the way around before that that fence got put up you walk all the way around.
And there's a door behind there and it leads upstairs into a chapel in the mausoleum oh oh that's so cool which is no longer open to the public yeah I can see why it's pretty yeah it looks like it's falling apart a little bit but anyways if you want to see a good solid 10 minutes of 90s loan for cemetery go check it out that is so cool I definitely will have to look at that.
A friend of mine Tara did a movie there she it's called my summer's a goth she did a movie there and film lots of it there I think grims couple of such were filmed at loan for cemetery that makes sense yeah I didn't want to ask you about the rose garden because I didn't I didn't know that was there until I kind of was walking around looking and I was like oh there's like a little rose garden here there is yeah it's so it's one of the original pioneer rose gardens so bad.
So back in the day roses are not local the Portland at all they're not at all they're not indigenous to parliament you wouldn't know it you would know it being that it's rose sitting so the pioneer ladies were really really into their roses and they would bring them over they would stick the little bits in.
Like the thorns or whatever they would the bulbs they would stick it in potatoes and so the potatoes to keep them wet and to keep them alive and then when they came over here they would plant them and there was a certain number a two or three original rose gardens from that the original pioneer women that came over they're all gone except for the one and loan for cemetery oh wow they're all gone yeah and then anything here after that like the one at Peninsula Park or Lads edition or the international test garden those are all all.
Rose gardens for sure but not the pioneer rose gardens from back in the day day wow so the so really special yeah it's one of the last ones is the last one they all had died off so we do have a volunteer in some groups that come out and help maintain the rose garden it's really neat to really quiet cool space yeah it does look really well maintained it is nice yeah we're excited to have it there's a little plaque there you can be a little bit more when you walk over to it so I have to know.
What you think of the John and Elizabeth stephens headstone, do you think it's creepy or do you think it's sweet.
I think it's sweet and I think it's creepy that's why I think too I think that it started to you know the type of material that it is which is like sugar marble over time it starts to look more like we be in the black and the like we've cleaned it a few times but that's like that's how they made headstones back then that's how they looked back then they were
modest sturdy people and yeah you know what I mean and yeah now I think it I don't think it's creepy at all I think what makes it look creepy to people is just because it's old yeah then it takes a wonderful side which the image by the way that's the backside of that stone because remember the entrance was the other side to the inscriptions the front.
Oh that is interesting that kind of does put like a different perspective on it a little bit yeah and J.B. Stevens would walk every day up what was baseline to go visit her because she died before him.
I know he wanted to hold her hand again.
Yeah.
Have you experienced any creepy stuff like hauntings in the cemetery no I know some of our volunteers and board members have discussed that I have really too much I kind of have the feeling that when all of us friends have learned for volunteers and board members that I will probably haunt it and the reason I say that is because we spend so much time there yeah right so
I don't know the connection some folks would have to that space maybe the Stevens would right you know yeah because you're more likely to visit your home or you haunt your you know your family but the cemetery is like unless you're really tied to that space emotionally I don't know that I don't know right yeah I'm kind of I'm kind of on that same line of thinking to yeah I don't know that cemetery is haunted people think.
Although the only experience that I've ever had was at will home and so I was there and I there was a really really cold area this and I mean it's kind of cold there anyways but there's a certain part where I felt I thought I felt the presence there but it's one of the few times it's the oldest part of will home just if you ever go do a little thing about them.
Do you think about them is that a cemetery to oh it's one of the largest like mausoleums in the west of the Mississippi there's like 30 40,000 people in turn in there for not buried at all they're in the wall.
Oh gosh yeah where is this at it's on it's in so one oh my gosh this is why okay this is one of the reasons I have a podcast that talks about like the Pacific Northwest because I lived here my whole life and I don't know anything.
Yeah so they do I've only lived here for well 16 years but you know more than me yeah but again it's the Portland history that I'm really into so I think like was it Clark Gables first wife is buried there the povoi brothers are buried are interred there and you might who's the povoi brothers but they did all the glass the pit of mansion anytime you see old stained glass like the old church I don't know if you know you've got venue there's a few homes within Portland all povoi glass and they were.
trained and mentored by Tiffany glass so it's got that vibe to it.
Poulson and in men so the in men Poulson working they did the in Poulson lumber so that big blue house over on just by Ross Island bridge yeah that's you want Poulson's house and so him and in men Robert in men had a lumber guard and they were supplying lumber to the city but they both had twin houses so you can now google the in men house that's been torn down but there's the Poulson house then they're both in toward there too so.
So just saying there's a lot of history there oh yeah that's definitely going to be something i'm going to be looking into after this so definitely you guys are you always looking for volunteers yeah we're always looking for have more people to help us out the more we can so the more we can recruit volunteers throughout the year the more.
Reliable people are the more people are dedicated just we're not having to retrain people and have a constant fresh new batch we want to have people help with projects and do other things so it's really helpful for us if you're involved in your interest in you want to become a board member you know people want to move on sometimes and that's okay but we want to continue to have more ideas more involvement.
So yeah we're always looking for volunteers we always want people to be board members or to help out or be involved in projects or do other things and we're we think outside the box so last year I did a screening which is a fundraiser for us at Clinton Street Theatre and Tariq him out we showed my separate goth because it was September October and it was you know that movie came out a few years ago and she was gracious enough to let it screen and Clinton Street Theatre and we went to the city.
and we went to, anyways, we did that, and then I rented out Holesene and we did tunes for
Tumestone, so I got a bunch of bands, and we did a bunch of stuff. So, I want to do, I
haven't done it yet because I've just been so busy this past year. But there's an event
I wanted to do. Maybe at Crush, or somewhere else, but show body evidence, which is what I
want to do, and have a drag show called "Death is a Drag."
Oh my gosh, okay, I'm coming to that. Please let me know when this is happening.
So, just different ideas, and part of it was to outreach outside of the cemetery and to
involve the community and to do different things within the community. So, for example,
we did Ghost of Summer this past year and the year before, which is sort of a vending event.
We've been to that, yeah.
Yeah. And then this year, I think every year they do, but I'm de-invited as to come out
to Amsy after Dark, and so it's October 30th, and I think the theme is called "Spirits,"
and so they've got a whole, I don't know, program plan or different things. So, we're going
to be out there with a booth, just talking about what we do, that's October 30th. You can
go to Amsy's website and find out more about tickets. So, we're trying to do more things,
we're getting invited to do more things outside of the cemetery, which is pretty fun and
pretty cool.
Awesome.
But we're even more volunteers to be able to do it, right?
Yeah, yeah.
We can't have the same five or six people showing up there, single thing. You're going to keep
going, you keep seeing me, and you'd be like, "Do you want to just do it all?" I'm like,
"I do," but also, it's just a core of, you know, a consistent core of us, we would love
more people out there.
So how do you recommend getting started volunteering?
Just email us at info@friendsoflonefircemetery.org, and we'll get back to you, and we'll give you
a whole step by step on how to do it, and then let us know what you're interested in.
Just, you know, hanging around tours, helping out the tours, is it helping be a site
store for next year's headstone workshops and what that looks like? You want to do research?
Do you want to do, there's a whole slew of things, you know? Do you want to help?
We have a whole sort of crew out there that we've got working on besides headstone workshops,
they're helping sort of uproot some of the sunken in headstones, or a lot of them, you
think, "Oh, they're gone," but they're just sunken in. So we have like an edging career
as well, we're calling them and they come out and they do, they pull weeds, sort of they,
you know, do things, there's just a variety of things that you can help out with.
That's awesome.
What is the email? We'll put it in the show notes just in case, but I want to say it out loud
too.
Yeah, it's just info@friendsoflonefircemetery.org.
So easy. Everyone please volunteer, help out donate if you can too, if you can't volunteer
your time, you know?
Yeah.
Volunteer your money.
Yeah, you can also come out. We've got shirts that we sell. We have them for sale at Skeleton
Key. They're good friends of us. They help sort of be our storefront. If you can't come
out to tours, we will have them for sale at our tours in October. So even if you don't
go to tour, you can pop over and if you want to buy a shirt, you can do that. That helps,
everything just helps support us, it helps support who we are and keeping, you know, the
lights on, so to speak. So it's always appreciated.
We appreciate you, the people who take care of this awesome space that we get to enjoy.
So thank you so much for doing that as well.
Thank you. Really appreciate it. Was there anything any last words you have? The dog might.
Yeah, yeah, truly those. No, I just think I appreciate the community support and the
interest this year's, like the highest attended headstone workshop. We were getting like 60
people per session at times and it was just amazing and great and hopefully that really sparked
some interest with people throughout the year. We do different stuff. So yeah, just come
out and check it out and know that any tour that you go on and anything that you do, where
you buy a ticket or you buy a shirt, you're spending money on a nonprofit. So we all are
volunteers. I've known this for 12 years and I've been doing it for free. So this is just
something where all the money goes back into us being able to do really cool stuff. So
$3 that you spend supports that effort. Awesome. All right. Well, it's so nice to talk to
you Margaret. Thank you for doing this interview with me. Nice to talk to you. Thank you so much.
We hope you enjoyed that interview with Margaret. She was so sweet to talk to us and she did
offer to let us come to one of these sold out Twilight Tombstone Twilight Tombstone
tours. I can't think of tombstone Twilight Tombstone. Twilight Tombstone. It's not about
Twilight. It's just at Twilight the time of the day. It's not about toilet. But I'm really
excited because they were sold out and I was like, oh, I didn't want it to go. And she
was so sweet to offer to let us come to one of those. So I am dragging Caitlyn to a cemetery
for you guys. I finally did it. I'm going to cemetery. She's going to the cemetery. Her
comfort item, Chris is allowed to go. I did have to ask for her. My companion husband.
I did when I talked about him. I called him your comfort item and our tech guy. Oh, yeah.
I mean, he does help us a lot technologically, especially when we travel. So, yes. Oh, boy.
And that's not the only tour that we're going to be going on. Oh, season. And that's all
I'm saying about that. You'll have to wait. Okay. I was going to say, are we telling them
or no, we're not telling them yet. That's going to be its own episode. Oh, pretty sure. So
I'm excited. How many times have I said stay tuned this episode? Just like keep listening
to keep doing it. Please share us with your friends. We're going to do one more shuffle.
I get it. Send me all your energy from the future. Help me pull this card. Oh, seven of swords.
It is a little ghosty holding up holding five swords. And then there's two kind of hanging
out next to him. And upright, correct? Yes. Okay. Our keywords are uncertainty.
Inclusion, impetuousness, stealth, cunning and strategy. Some decks, including the writer
Waitsmith, Aquarian and Gilded Terro, show a man carrying away five swords, leaving two
stuck in the ground behind him. When this card appears, it suggests you're facing a challenge
or problem and must use caution to overcome potential danger. Please be careful out there
during the spooky season is in the dark. Yeah, especially, especially the upright seven
suggests a tricky situation in which things are not completely clear. Very on brand for
the season. You may be formulating a plan, but don't have all the information you need.
Or the plan may be risky and could backfire. Don't be visiting abandoned buildings at night
to ghost hunt. Or maybe not cemeteries. I don't know. It's hard to say what it's about
exactly. We're not going to cemetery alone. I'm having second thoughts. It is a tour with
tons of people around. It's guided. It's safe. Okay. Don't go alone at night. Okay. This
card can represent surreptitious action and advises diplomacy. In a reading about money,
the seven warns that you probably shouldn't go ahead with financial idea or investment
you're considering. Perhaps the risks are too high or the deal may be shaky or shady.
Oh, what can I watch out for the shady deals? Yeah. The whole time I'm walking around
the cemetery. I'm just like, I'm not making any deals. Might be beyond that. I'm just really
focused on the on that whole thing. I feel I feel like once you listen to the interview
with Margaret, you wouldn't you're not going to be scared of the cemetery really anymore.
Okay. That would be the first time in my life. But first time for everything. If the reading
is about your job, this card suggests, oh, this card says don't engage in direct confrontation.
So don't go all Zach Baggins. Zach Bagel bites the demon. Yeah. That's right. Don't
Bagel bites the demons. Work behind the scenes to get results. The upright seven can also
indicate restlessness. Perhaps your job lacks the diversity or stimulation you desire.
Consider making a change. Well, I'd really love to. Will you support us on Patreon so that
I can no longer work my soul sucking corporate job? Please. Please.
Interreading about love, which is of course how you feel for us. And therefore wish to support
us financially. Please. In a reading about love, your advice to seek, compromise and use diplomacy
rather than arguing with a partner. But don't just go along to get along. That's why I
am no longer going on the tour because I cannot go along to get along. Yes, you can. Sometimes
this card shows leaving a relationship that doesn't meet your intellectual or spiritual
meaning. You're like, I'm leaving you. I'm leaving you. Yeah. We have nothing in common.
Okay, there's an extra excerpt. Be focused and thorough in planning your strategy. As Barbara
Moore writes in the Guilded Turo Companion, be on guard or one of those swords he left
behind. We'll find its way into his back. Okay, well, now it seems like it's hinting at
murder. I just feel like it's just a good reminder for people because we, you know, drew the card
just for, you know, spooky season. So just a reminder to just watch out. Be safe. There's
illusions. There's all kinds of illusions. There's people dressed up. Just be safe. That's
all. It's interesting though, because like in this card, like it just looks like, you know,
the sun is setting. Yeah. Earlier. I don't know. We were talking about like the twilight,
tombstones. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to read the extra excerpt at the end of the reverse
interpretation. I feel like I'm going to live to regret it because it kind of seems like
it's taking your stupid side. It always burns.
It's a story that should be utilized as a source of strength. No matter what sort of difficulties,
how painful experience is, if we lose our hope, that's our real disaster. Do you want to
guess who said that? I have no idea. His holiness, Jesus Christ, the 14 Dalai Lama. Oh. Yeah,
no, I don't read a lot of Jesus quote. Yeah. I don't think there's a lot of Jesus quotes
in the tarot. I'm not. I'm not. Do we have anything else to share with the people? Or I don't,
but if you guys, you know, want to let us know how if this card helped you out, if you're
listening to it at the exact right moment, you needed it. You can always let us know. I
think it's interesting to see like how far down the road when people are listening to,
you know, certain tarot reads and how they relate to their own lives that are happening. Yeah.
At that moment, it just makes me think of that. I think it's kind of a trend on, it's multiple
platforms, but I always think of TikTok where it's like, I don't mean, I don't know who needs
to hear this today. Yeah. You know, and I'm like, oh, yeah. Because sometimes you know you're
seeing that sometimes, you know, weeks, months, however long after the person has kind of put that
out. I mean, TikTok isn't things that aren't things dead off for like an hour. Basically.
Yeah. So it feels like it's even more meant to be, right? I feel like it's hard.
Lars is going to last for years and years to like 200 years down the road. Let us know how this
card relates to you. Take an end talk and, you know, is you sent me your energy and it went into
that card and it's for you. Well, let's go do some spooky shit. Okay. Yeah. Let's go be spooky.
We're going to be spooky for so many more weeks. I'm so excited. We really need to do midnight
margaritas like very soon. Okay. Okay. Like for real, like a live stream actual midnight margarita.
Oh, we should. That would be fun. We can do that. Do you guys want that? Are you going to enjoy
us at midnight? That's really late. But like you guys can do it. Like you're doing on a Saturday night.
Yeah. Keep it fresh. Keep it funky. It's just a bunch of us sleeping. Yeah.
We all have an alarm set to wake us up at midnight for the margarita. Probably more accurate.
That's what happens in the movie though. So that's more authentic. Is it? Yeah. She wakes her up
with the blender. Yeah. She's right. You're right. You're my god. You guys. This has been a millennial
and elder millennial calling card from from from the jump. Okay. Let's do this. I have a blender. Do you
have a blender? Let's do this. I have a ninja. I have a ninja too. It's a ninja blender. It is a
okay. Yeah. It doesn't matter because you'll be here and we'll use my ninja. Okay. Okay. That's
good. Well, everyone get your blender. Get prepared. Yeah. I think that's a fun idea. Keep you updated.
Yeah. Keep it posted in the meantime. Have a creepy ass day. See you next Tuesday. We're at midnight.
Whatever. Unless you lost. Get one at the cemetery. I need my comfort item. I need my comfort item.
Oh no. It's my headphones. You guys. This is the mess. What is happening?
At witch cackle. That really got me in. We love to witch cackles. We better go.
I gotta get the scroll margarita even though it's not midnight.
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