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- What's up everybody?
Welcome to For Crying and All Out.
- It's Friday.
- It is Friday.
- Friday, Amen, Love.
- I love that song.
- I know, it's a good song.
- Too bad we can't play it at the end of our episode.
- You know what?
- Now we can.
- Some of you, I was telling you this,
I was talking about old school episodes last week
that I've been finding some good ones.
If you go all the way back to 2017,
yeah, the music is still at the end of them.
The songs.
We didn't do our theme song, we just did.
So I was always wondering,
'cause I would go back to edit them,
and I'm like, how come our theme song is not at the end
of a bunch of these episodes that are like from 2018, 2019,
2020, and it's because Kaelin had to go back
and edit the music out, 'cause we were getting in trouble.
- Oh, okay, but we didn't get in trouble.
But we could have had the episodes taken down, I guess,
so we didn't want to risk it, especially since we were
with podcast one.
- Right.
- But the older episodes than that,
he didn't go all the way back.
So those all have, so when I go to edit them,
I'm like, surprised by, I'm like,
I try to even guess it.
I'm like, oh, I wonder what song we picked
for the end of the song. - Nice.
- That was so fun.
So then I go, I can see, it's hard to explain
when you're editing, but you can kinda see the way a track is,
it looks a little different than the rest of it,
so I'm like, I go right up to that mark,
and then I go, okay, and I hit play, and then I'm like,
oh, that's a good one, Kaelin.
(laughs)
I'm usually, I was coming up with a song.
- Oh, yeah, yeah, half the time,
Kaelin would never have heard of the song.
- Right, 'cause we'd go, your pair now, don't have it up.
- Song?
- Yeah. - Yep.
- And then we'd be like, how about like Maya Dita's, you know?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'd be like,
you'd be like, what? - Yeah, I know, right.
He never knew anything.
Yeah, that was so great.
Why should we could do that again?
I mean, yeah.
Yeah.
- We don't want to listen to what.
- I'm gonna try for a little while to really find
all super old episodes.
- That have a song. - Because if you think about it,
we think 2017 doesn't sound that far away,
but in the life of like being a parent, that's eight years.
- Yes, so like, my 17 year olds were 11.
- Yeah. - No, we're nine, right?
- What's the math?
- Yes, we're nine years old.
- Yeah, nine. - Yeah, nine.
- So there are kids.
- Yeah, that is a lifetime in parenting.
- Yeah.
- And yours were like 11,
and Elby would have been like 12.
- Yeah.
- They were young.
- They were going through so much of our lives
was very different.
- Right.
- We were at that stage where we were like,
fucking Martin Luther King Day.
- Yeah. - Why?
- You know, the kids have to be off on a Monday.
- Right, I know.
Oh, the three day weekends were so torturous.
- Yeah.
- So torturous.
I was talking to a friend that has a baby,
like newborn,
and she's like the days are just so long.
They take forever.
And then was just like, yeah, I know, right?
But then we just saw Kaelin this morning
and he's like almost out of the mail room.
He's got, he is.
- Yeah, he's got a five year old and a six year old.
Blake is turning five, yeah.
And Eila is six, just turned six,
and I'm like, that was glory age for my kids.
- Right.
Yeah, can you, he's, yeah, he's getting out of the,
gonna enter the corner office pretty soon.
- I gotta tell you, Elby is so fun.
She, it's the best.
And especially because now that she's not,
well, and she hasn't been for a while,
but now that she's not just depressed
and crying in a room all the time.
- Right.
- She was like, come on, what about me?
(laughs)
- Yeah, it was so, it was awful, awful, awful, awful times.
But once she got started getting into schools,
her mood totally changed.
And I mean, she's so fun to hang out with.
She's just like, we love to recount like old stories.
And that girl has such a good memory.
So I'll go to tell her something from when she was young
and she remembers it like better.
- Really?
- No, no, no, no, no, this is what happened.
We were going over all the lore from when her friends
were being assholes to her in like 11th grade.
There was like some toxic friend group stuff happening.
- Right.
- There was a little bit of that going on with Sadie
and Elby was trying to boost Sadie up by going like girl.
I had a horrible time and this is what happened
and then mom made me get a job.
- Right.
- And that's when she got, that's when I was like,
you know what, you need something else to think about
besides this girl drama.
- Definitely, yes, especially the girls,
they were the worst, the worst, yes.
But Elby is like, she's just, we will just go out
and have fun.
- That's nice.
- You ever start using some of the kids' lingo though
without I do, but I do, 'cause I hear low key all the time.
So I always go like, hi, key,
you're supposed to come to the dishwasher.
(laughs)
Hi, key, not for nothing.
You were supposed to unload the washer clothes.
- Yeah, yeah.
So I make fun of their stupid lingo.
- But now I find myself sometimes using it
like completely seriously.
Like I'm like, oh, sorry, you like really down for that guy
or whatever, you know?
- Yeah.
- Or are you down bad?
- Right.
- And I'm serious, that's a sad thing.
And Elby will be like, yeah.
(laughs)
Or this is when the kids use all the time
that I think in my head now and uses,
somebody being your op, right?
Like your oposition, what it means, like your enemy.
- Yeah.
- So like, you know, I don't know, the kids will say like,
oh yeah, that person's like my total op, you know?
- Right.
- I used to not understand what it meant.
Like your opposite, they're like, no, like my opponent,
like my op, like my opposition.
And so I actually say that like deadpan, I said it.
Okay, so I had to go to this volunteer breakfast
the other day for like the upcoming new school year.
- Yeah.
- And, I said, to my friends, I was like, yeah,
I go, this is gonna be the first year like my,
I don't have to worry about seeing my op.
(laughs)
And you know who I'm talking about.
- Yes, I do.
And I said it quite seriously.
No, I wasn't being ironic, I was really saying that,
'cause I'm so used to talking to my kids a lot,
and I got some blank stairs.
(laughs)
- And I was like, whatever.
- I never heard that one.
I hear them, but then they go in one year now
with the other.
I'm like, what?
I don't know.
Or she'll text me something in parentheses.
I'm like, what does that mean?
- Like the core.
- Of course.
I don't know, like just like of course, OFC or...
- Yeah, OFC, R-N is lowercase R-N is just right now.
- Right now, yeah, I got that one.
T-N tonight, yeah.
Just like, can you just, why is it that hard to write it out?
'Cause then you're gonna get in a habit
and you're gonna go in the real world,
and people don't text that way in the real world.
- Right.
- Just you and your dumb friends.
- Except that pretty soon all jobs
are gonna be run by like Gen Z.
- Well, that's true, too.
And then they're all gonna talk like that.
- I'll talk that way.
- And we're not gonna know what anybody's talking about.
We're gonna be like old people going,
get off my line.
- I know.
- Oh my gosh.
The music that they played the other day in the house,
like getting ready for their,
- Hard summer.
- their hard summer.
I'm like, do you really,
can you just put something mellow?
I don't know, but it's like,
(mimicking)
- Everything in the clock?
- Yeah, how about that?
Some two-box, some ice cube,
I'm not that square,
but like what's with the auto-tuning?
And then there's like,
and then that's on repeat,
they say the same thing over and over and over.
It's go loud and then it goes quiet and goes loud.
And it's like,
"It's so obnoxious."
And Sunny doesn't like that music either.
So he's like, "Oh, I gotta get outta here."
He bothers him, too.
- How do they really love it that much?
- I don't get it.
I don't know.
I don't like it either.
But like, okay, so if our parents didn't like our music
and they're like, "That just sounds like a bunch of noise."
Then have we become that?
That house music is really good
and we just don't, we can't hear it?
I guess, I feel that way, too.
So when I get mad at the music,
I always think of my dad like making fun of my music.
And I'm like, am I, now that,
am I old man, you know,
- Parola?
- Parodise.
(laughs)
I'm gonna change my last name, I think.
I think you should.
- Yeah, yeah.
I think I'm healthy.
- Oh yeah.
It's gonna take some, some, it's not,
it's not, it's kind of costly.
- Oh really?
- Yeah, it's kind of expensive
and there's a lot of hoops to jump through,
but I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna go back to paradise.
When both of my kids are like,
"Want, go to paradise, why not?"
'Cause a lot of times people get divorced.
"Oh, I keep the name for the kids."
Not my kids.
My kids are like, "If I could have parents,
"my daughter's like, I wish I had paradise."
All right.
- Well she could change her name too.
- Without a really mad, I don't think he care.
I don't know.
I don't think.
- It would be making a statement
which probably doesn't wanna do that.
- Yeah, she doesn't wanna do that.
- Yeah, but yeah.
- So this meeting that I went to,
- Yes.
- 'Cause it's heating up, right?
And you know how I'm the co-chair
of the Fundraising Committee.
So this woman who is the co-president
of the Parent Association, who is so nice,
you know I complained a little bit
not last year but the year before.
But this woman, I've said this a million times,
she's so nice and she has a beautiful house
and she was like, "Let's all come over and discuss,
"we'll get new families to come
"and we'll talk about the volunteering stuff
"for the upcoming year."
And I was like, "Okay, I'm gonna go to this.
"I'm gonna get myself off of this Fundraising Committee."
- Yes.
- I'm a whole strong.
I'm gonna tell them, "You guys,
"let's all admit that I suck at this, right?"
Like, "You don't suck, but you're not good."
- But you're not good.
- I know, but I was like,
I do a lot of other stuff for the school.
I was like, I just think everybody would be happier
with me, not on that wall.
Like, I just, we have somebody.
So remember, we've got my friend Nancy,
who is the co-chair, who's so much better at it than I am.
So I was like, "I'm just gonna hold strong.
"I'm gonna let everybody know."
Like, "Hey, I already handled the music department.
"I'm like the liaison with the teacher."
- Right. - And I throw all those events.
And then I also, probably am the person
who does speech and debate.
And you know how much I love that?
- Yes.
- I get one more year of judging the shit out of the speech
and debate. - I feel like no.
- And you guys are gonna be so mad,
all the people, all my ops out there,
who like, talk shit about me and go,
"All she talks about is speech and debate."
Yeah, mother fuckers.
That's all I'm gonna be talking about,
if I can help it.
Listen, it only happens, speech and debate.
It only happens like once every six weeks,
and not even, it doesn't even start till December.
So you better fucking believe
that I'm gonna be bringing the speech and debate material.
I am gonna be talking about speech and debate.
You guys are gonna have to get your fast forward ready
'cause I'm gonna have a lot to say about it.
I'm really looking forward to it.
I am too.
But I do a lot.
Listen, not everybody loves speech and debate the way I do.
(laughing)
But as I've said, I'm really good at judging, you know?
And like, when you're good at something
and it comes easy to you, why not like, offer your services?
- Right.
- I like to judge.
Yeah.
Anyway, I was thinking like, with all the things
that I already do, maybe I could just like,
not do the fundraising thing.
So I talked to John, I got myself psyched up.
John's like, okay, what are we doing?
What's our goal?
You're getting out of the,
you're getting off that fundraising committee.
And I was like, yep, I'm gonna stay on strong.
So I get to the meeting, have a bagel.
You know what?
(laughing)
I don't wanna rush it, right?
I don't wanna rush right away, you know?
- Right, right.
- I don't wanna rush it right away, right?
- Right, right.
I can't do it on an empty stomach.
- No, no, no, no.
Put some blocks on that bagel, you know?
Have some berries that I brought.
(laughing)
My God.
I have to, you know, I swear to God,
I am a child when it comes to like,
I asked this woman, I asked Lucy, what, okay, what can I bring?
And she was like, oh, can you bring some fruit?
Like a fruit salad?
You know immediately, I'm struck with fear, fear in my heart.
I'm just like, oh, like, oh no, like there's somebody,
like a fruit salad.
Like I've never made a fruit salad in my life.
Like what is that in tail?
Then I was like, okay, maybe I can tail.
(laughing)
A couple of watermelon, some grapes.
I mean, right?
I should, you're right, but I wasn't thinking that way.
I was like, okay, I'm gonna have to buy all these
different kinds of fruit and cut it up and like, mate.
And then I was like, oh,
then I thought, well, I could just buy like a fruit,
like a little fruit platter.
That's probably good, right?
- Pre-made, yeah, pre-made.
- Pre-made.
Then I was like, I don't know, that's like somebody says,
can you bring dessert and I go buy like some r alf's cookies,
some Oreos and go, here you go, right?
So I'm like, I'm gonna try to be like,
it's not that she's even fancy and she would not care.
It was pressure I put on myself.
I felt like suddenly like I was hosting.
So then I was like, oh, you know what I could do is,
like some raspberries and like blackberries, you know?
- Yeah, that's good.
- But then I started thinking like,
that's not very cost-efficient.
Like, you know, by the time, oh, 'cause I was like,
she said it could be between like 12 and 18 people.
- Okay.
- I'm like, oh, that's a lot of berries.
- Yeah, that is.
- You know?
- Yeah.
- Then I got to trade her Joe's and I was like,
oh my God, great idea, strawberries.
Cut up strawberries, mix in some blueberries.
- Mmm.
- That's pretty.
So I bought two giant things with strawberries and brought them home.
And then like, you know, I'm doing something else.
And all of a sudden I hear, I hear something
from the refrigerator, from the kitchen.
And I was like, oh no, you fucking didn't.
(laughing)
- Kind of late night.
It's kind of like 10 p.m.
And I'm like, you know, you hear that sound of like,
plastic being opened.
And I was like, oh hell, no.
I came running out there.
And Sanders like, mom, there's like a ton of strawberries.
I'm like, yeah, and I'm using every fucking one of them.
Not for you.
- Not for you.
And meanwhile, Sadie had already put some like on her plate.
And then I was like, oh no.
She's like, do I have to put them back?
Like no, just keep those, but no more.
Don't have any more.
- Uh-huh.
- It turned out that just one of those was like plenty.
- Right, okay.
- And the thing of blueberry.
It was like, I had a whole big bowl.
- Right.
- Then I bought some cream fresh.
- Oh nice.
- Brought that with it.
- That's nice.
- I think I might have over did it.
- I might have made it too fancy.
- You did.
- Yeah.
And I'm sure a lot of it didn't, I mean, maybe didn't,
didn't, no most of it got eaten.
They loved it.
- Oh good.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But and Lucy was just like, wow, that's like beautiful.
And I was like, thanks.
- Yeah.
Yeah.
It's better than the store bought pre-made shit.
- Yeah.
It wasn't that hard.
I was like, could I be a grownup at this age?
- I know.
- Please, can I not feel so awful at being asked for like a simple, do?
Why do I get so like intimidated?
Because we don't know how to do a sharkootary trace.
That's why.
That's why we don't host.
You know, I am the worst at it.
- So natural to put together.
I know.
But then when you're forced to do it, it's not that hard, you know,
to do a sharkootary tray or a fruit salad or whatever.
- It's really not.
It is.
It's a mental thing.
It is.
- It's just got to like tell yourself.
It's not like everybody else is so much better at it.
It's just they do it more often.
- Yes, they do.
You just got to commit to doing it.
- Right, right.
- And like, look it up on YouTube.
- Yeah.
That's what I do.
I know.
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- Right. So I go to the thing, I present my berries. Everybody applaud.
It's a beautiful, beautiful time.
No, we meet some of the new parents and you know, meanwhile I'm just like.
- So what's a good turnout? Like other people show up?
- Not a great turnout. No, it's not a lot of people get involved.
- Yeah.
- The main people that do everything are the ones that show up for this.
- Right. Right.
- But so then of course I'm already starting to feel bad, right?
Like I thought maybe there'd be like 10 new people, you know, that are there to like how can I help?
- Yes.
- I'd love to be on the fundraising committee like sign me up.
- Right.
- No, none of that. None of that.
So I'm like try to plant the seed.
I'm like you know what might be great is if I just focus on like the other stuff and like maybe I shouldn't be on the fundraising committee.
And of course I just get like what? No, you're great.
You're doing such a good job of it.
And I'm like I'm really not though.
Like I'm really not.
I go you know how I am.
A lot of those emails they go over my head and I'm just like feel a little bit like I don't know what I'm doing.
But Nancy's so good at it.
I wonder if we could just get somebody else to help her.
And I just get, let's worry about that later.
- No.
- Yeah.
And let me just say that there was never like a good time to bring it back up.
It would have just, we were all sitting in a circle with like a name tag.
- Oh God.
- It just would have been out of place.
They've gotten agenda.
- Right.
- We're going down the agenda.
- No, no.
- It would have been like hey a little addendum to the agenda.
- Somebody's taking meeting notes.
They really did.
- They did.
- Yes.
We got a thing that was like here's the notes from our meeting and I was like
oh, how can I just put that in there like hey I don't want to do this does any but there
are only like three new parents there and you could sense that they were a little overwhelmed.
- Yes, it's always the newbies that are intimidated.
- Which I totally get if I was brand new.
I don't know that I would be like let me be the coach here on the fundraising committee.
I'd be like let me get the lay of the land.
- Yes.
- Yeah.
- So I just told myself you know what I'll just wait a little while.
- So school starts and we get some parents going how can I help.
And then I'll like back out like slowly.
- Uh-huh.
- You know what I mean?
I'll just be like yeah I think you guys got this.
- Yeah.
That's a good plan.
Wait until the school year starts and then there's got to be another mom that's like you know one of those
go getters that want to be a part of it and like have that experience of whatever experience
they need to organize it.
You know I don't know.
I'm hoping for you.
So you just don't want to you don't want to do the I don't want it to be official.
So this is what the co president told me she was like well the problem is we need a certain
amount of parents on the board and that's a board position.
So we can't really just take you off without but we could give you we could make you a different
position on the board.
- Okay.
- All the board positions are like kind of hard like this mom.
Oh and I feel bad for her because she's got a senior this year but she also has one starting
in ninth grade.
- Oh and she's fucked.
- Yeah she is.
She's going to be there a while.
- Yeah.
- So I was like okay we can look into that.
I don't know.
Part of me is just like so I get in the car and I called John to tell him I'm on my way home
and I was like so did you get off the fundraise in committee and I was like not yet working
on it.
- You're like what do you mean you're working on it going to face B plan B.
- He planted the seeds.
- I planted the seeds.
- That was your goal.
I planted the seed that I don't really want to do it.
So yeah but I think they're just going to be like she'll just start doing it and we
won't have to hear about it.
- Yeah.
- Hopefully somebody will come along.
Can you split up the duties or something with somebody else?
- It's just such a small I am.
It's already split with I have a co-chair of this committee.
- Okay.
- The mom who's the go getter whose house it was at.
She got another go getter.
There's this other mom who's like really a go getter.
And oh like so cool under pressure like I've never seen her act overwhelmed at all.
She was the head of her kids old school at their middle school.
She was the head of the parent association.
She is a teacher.
She's a full-time job.
She's a teacher.
So like I don't know how.
- I don't think she feel bad but she always has ideas.
Not only does she have good ideas but she also has like follow through.
- Right.
- I am just all plant an idea and I'll be like take it and run.
- Yeah.
- Let me know what God.
- Let me know if you need the idea.
- Yeah.
- Hopefully you can find some manpower.
Oh my gosh.
Manpower.
Is there any guys?
Any dads?
- No.
There was one dad.
Okay.
So the mom Lucy whose house we were at.
She was a husband as now is our treasureer.
So it's like these are the biggest go getters.
Like I'm telling you you're like wow, I don't know.
And now your whole family is going to be busy and in the weeds all the time with the school stuff.
But somehow she's really nice about it and doesn't like it mad or you know sometimes the power can go to their head.
- Right.
She's like us.
She really is cool where you know she doesn't really want to do it but she's like well there's no one else stepping up to do it.
So I got to do it.
But then she's also good at it.
- Right.
But she's not forceful about like she's the type of person that if you argue something not like nothing we're arguing stuff.
- No, they're like you mean.
- She's like I don't care.
- Yeah.
- Whatever.
- Right.
- Do it that way then.
- Yeah.
- What do I care?
That does sound better.
Okay, do it like that.
- But I don't care.
Whereas you get other people their personalities are like no we're doing it this way.
- Yes.
- This is how it's always been done.
I don't give a fuck if it's not the most efficient way to do it.
- Right.
- We're doing it this way.
- Like your op-o check.
- Yes.
- My off.
- Couple of years ago.
- With no bandwidth.
- Yeah.
- Wow.
Well, should we talk about our TV show?
- Yeah.
- That we tease?
- Yes.
- I've never thought of it.
- One thing I did appreciate about it is it didn't make you sink, "Oh, this person did it."
Or that, they kind of went right immediately to who did it kind of thing.
You know, like, daylight in 2020, they're always like, "Could be this guy.
"Could be this chick.
"Could be this person, that person."
Not in this one.
This one, they kind of went right away.
Like, it looks suspicious of what happened.
And, you know, it looks like--
- It looks like--
- There's these two couples.
Yeah.
Brian and Kathy.
And then Mike and Denise.
- Denise.
Yeah.
God, these are the most basic names.
- Right.
- Basic names.
They're very basic.
They seem like very basic people.
- Yeah.
- Too happy, Florida.
- Religious.
Florida.
They do everything together.
- Went to high school.
- High school, sweet hearts.
- Yes.
- Heck, two of them were in preschool together.
- Oh.
- The two that ended up together.
Brian and Denise or whoever.
They went--
They were-- there was a picture of them in preschool together.
- Wow.
- The same preschool class, yeah.
- Wow.
- Yeah.
- So they all grew up together.
- Yeah.
Then it just turns out-- and here's the spoiler alert--
That while-- and they both had kids, right?
- In their--
- Respiratory couples.
- Yeah.
- They did everything together, the four of them.
- Right.
- And then Brian started doing a little bit more stuff on the side with Denise from the other
couple.
- Yes.
- Scandal.
- Yeah.
And then we find out way later that they were just having sex all the time.
- Right.
- Like with prostitutes and going out.
So they would go-- so what happened, they-- so basically Mike went out to go on a hunting
trip, which they did a lot--
- With Brian.
- Yes.
And didn't come back from the hunting trip, right?
- Right.
- And was missing.
And did he go alone or did he go with--
- That's right.
- He went with Brian.
- Right.
So Brian comes home and he's like, I don't know where he went.
Yeah.
Or he was missing, right?
So--
- But then immediately, the mom-- not the mom-- the wife of the guy that went missing--
was like, she didn't want to-- she didn't care that he was missing or she just didn't want
to be bothered.
The mother of the guy that went missing was like in her diary saying like, well, Denise is
acting weird.
You know, she doesn't seem to care about what happened to Mike or husband.
So immediately, you're like, okay, did she do something or did he do-- so anyway, he goes
missing.
And then you find out that the other wife and the husband of the other wife and the
other couple and the wife of the one that went missing-- the wife of the guy that went missing--
were having an affair behind their backs.
- Right.
- And were doing like-- going-- and they were partying-- the four of them were partying
a lot.
But then when the other wife got pregnant and had a kid, she didn't want to continue
partying.
She was like, I'm done with this partying.
But the other two wanted to continue going out and going to clubs and acting like they
were in college all over again.
- Right.
Yeah.
- So, because they have a kid.
- Well, then-- yes.
So then--
- Ainsley.
- They got-- right.
Then they had a kid, too.
- Right.
- So then-- but after Mike disappeared--
- Yes.
- This is an episode one.
After Mike disappears, it's a little bit-- Kathy doesn't know, but it's weird because he
starts like spending time with her and Kathy finds out, why are you like-- like he's
lying about where he's going.
And then he's like, what the-- like, why are you watching where I'm going?
Yeah, she's sad and she wanted me to take her to the place where Mike disappeared because
she's so sad about it.
So I was doing a nice thing for our friend who's supposed to be your friend, but she wanted
to go alone with just me.
And then why did you go and buy her a necklace?
- Right.
- Well, with her name on it, a gold necklace, it was like $68, by the way.
And I don't know if you saw the receipt for it.
- Oh, that's a funny one.
- Yeah.
- And it's like, well, you know, she's sad, but then it also turns out--
- Right.
- With her, by the way, with her name from partying days, they had fake names.
- Right.
- They thought they were so original.
- Yeah, her name was Meridian or something.
Yeah.
Which was like, oh, that's her club name.
That's her fake name that she uses when she goes out clubbing.
- Yes.
- She gets her a necklace with that name on it.
- Right.
- So, yeah, so he's suspicious and she's suspicious.
And then the one wife was like, what's going on?
Why, you know, why are you hanging out with her?
Then we also find out about the insurance policy.
- Right.
- So the guy whose friend went missing and he's, you know, hanging out with the other wife,
he runs an insurance company.
This is family's insurance company and he talks his friend, Mike, the guy that goes missing
into getting an insurance policy for a couple million dollars and he does and then lo and behold,
he goes missing.
- Now, the thing that caught me about this whole thing, which I did find very interesting
and it does have some twists and turns.
But weren't you like, how is it taking this long to like figure this out?
I mean, everybody freaking knows.
- Right.
But like, they're just like, yeah, I don't know.
What could have happened?
I think you got eaten by an alligator.
- Yeah, that's what they're, right.
And the other thing is like the cops didn't even like investigate.
They just took everybody out of the alligator.
- Yes.
Meanwhile, Mike's mom is like trying to get the cops his attention.
She's going to newspaper reporters trying to get the attention on the story.
Like, he's been missing now 18 months.
Why are they just, how come they're not interested in what, you know, oh, and don't forget
this.
They're like, he's missing, he's missing is missing.
And then the insurance company is like, no, if he's missing, we can't declare him dead unless
we have proof that he died.
So low and behold, like a week later, oh, no, his boots showed up.
- His weight is in his jacket.
- And his hunting license in there.
- Right.
- His name on it.
- Yes.
- That was under water.
- It was just under water.
Just floated up to the top.
Right.
So then they can declare him dead.
Therefore she can cash out and get his insurance.
- Right.
- Yes.
So then, yeah, it was like four episodes.
- Yep.
- So then, they, so then, then she, he finally comes clean saying like, we're having an affair,
okay?
So then he gets a divorce from the wife that they're interviewing this documentary.
And then they end up these two get married and have more kids that they have, I think
out.
And then any time that the woman, Kathy, who was, who was the, the wife of Brian, who left
to go be having a affair with Denise and marry her, everybody's like, Kathy, what, why
are you being so bitchy about this?
Like, obviously, like, he was just being a really good friend to Denise and like, things
happen.
Like, you know, you fall in love because you're like spending time together and you're consoling
her and she was really, really sad.
- Right.
And Kathy's like, how do I get hurt here?
- What?
- They're like, God, Kathy, you're not a very good friend.
- Right.
- It's like you're that mad that your husband left you to go be with her.
- Yes.
And she was so ghastly.
- When she was going to be a ghastly, totally.
- Yes.
- She was being ghastly.
And, yes.
So then they get married and she still wants to know like, she feels that they did
something to Mike.
- Right.
- But she can't like, let it go.
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She comes up with a plan.
So she comes up with this plan because she still feels very strongly that they had something
to do with Mike's disappearance or that he's dead.
Right.
So they don't speak.
Her and this obviously, this ex-friend of hers and Mike's wife, Widow, they don't talk for
a long time.
And then she starts, then she gets some cops interested and then they get her to wear a wire
and then she goes to meet him and then I don't think that, I don't remember what they met,
but he didn't, I don't think he came clean with anything or wasn't anything.
Well, I mean, we don't want to give it all away, but he does say some incriminating things.
But this thing is really frustrating because this is a, it's not an abducted and plain sight,
but I thought of it because it's like, then 10 years later and you're like, wait, what?
I know.
I think should have been solved in like a month.
I know.
And then it's like 20 years later.
Right.
Come on.
I would like it to come to your grown.
Yeah.
I know.
Are you serious?
You've been running around living their lives, living their best life.
I know.
Also, this is going to be shocking when you get to this part, but Brian turns out to not
be a great guy.
Like what?
So even though he was super in love with Denise enough to leave calf for Denise, he also treats
Denise pretty shitty too.
Yes.
So that, that, that relationship runs its course because he starts showing his true collars.
So you hate it when you kill somebody's husband because so that you can like be with them.
Yeah.
But then you're like, yeah, that's not into it anymore.
Right.
Now, how do I get out of it?
Yeah.
It's like he killed for me.
Right.
And now I'm like, I'm over it.
Right.
Sox when that happens.
And you're like, I guess I could try to drive this out for like a little bit longer or like,
I mean, do you just make a decision?
Like, listen, we're both not feeling this anymore.
So like, let's you and me both, like, not like stop to see.
But the Z on the murder thing.
Yeah.
Like, let's just call it quits.
Right.
And I won't tell on you, you don't tell on me.
We'll go have a nice day.
Right.
Yeah.
Never works like that.
Somehow one person is always like, hmm, not so fast.
Yeah.
He's so obsessed with her.
Yes.
Yeah.
But also treating her terrible.
Right.
Oh, cool.
Yeah.
Like the kidnapping of her.
But this is again, and this is we're bringing this full circle.
But again, this is one of those situations where you're like, how do these two
find each other?
They're both sociopaths.
Yes.
I was thinking that when I was watching this show.
Like, it's like, he and he even when he says what happened, and this is another spoiler.
So, but when he, so hopefully you've watched this, you did your homework.
But when he's just like, hey, listen, like, I probably wouldn't have even done it.
But she was like, ha, can me about it.
Like, come on.
We got to get rid of my husband.
Right.
Are you going to kill him or what?
Like, and he was like, and I mean, I was like, well, we do really want to be together.
I guess.
He's like, I told her she should just divorce him and she was like, absolutely not.
Oh, no.
No way.
How are you going to get that insurance money?
Right.
Just a divorce.
Right.
Yeah.
So they both like, we're agreeing.
Like, how about we get rid of them?
Like, how do you mean get rid of them?
Kill them?
Okay.
Yeah.
Like, let's do it.
Let's make a plan right away.
Yeah.
Pinkie Swear.
We won't tell anybody.
It's so funny.
It's crazy.
I know.
Yeah.
I mean, like, start doing a rap song.
Before we start singing "Shoot."
Yeah.
Okay.
So I was thinking about Elbi's birthday and I might have run this by you before because
she's turning 21.
Oh, I like that.
And I kind of wanted to do like a little girl's trip with her.
Yeah.
And I thought it would be fun to take her to Vegas.
And I want to know if Vegas just sucks now because Vegas is, I haven't been to
Vegas in 20 years.
And I do feel like when I was young, that would have been a super fun trip.
Yes.
Especially being 21 and I could teach her some gambling.
Yeah.
Or all the tables, like $20, then it's like going to just cost so much money.
I mean, the gambling of it, it depends on where you stay, I think, too, or where you go
gamble, you know?
But there's always like really good deals.
If you can go during the week, I bet it would be a lot cheaper.
We could probably do that.
Yeah.
Go on during the week and then maybe we'll go over like her winter break.
Yeah.
Because her birthday is November 12.
I don't want to do it over like Thanksgiving.
So like, she's out for Christmas?
Yeah.
Right.
Like take a weekday and then.
Yeah.
I think that would be fun if you go like during like a day or two during the week and then
yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I've only known because I've been at Caesar's Palace because of my friend Dawn.
That's where she is.
But they're expensive.
But I think there's other casinos where no, my like my nieces go all the time to to Vegas
on a budget.
And it's not that bad.
There's like the flamingo or there's like a there's other hotels that are not that expensive
on the gambling tables.
Right.
It's like the business.
And also I want to do like, there's that big roller coaster.
Yeah.
They're like, there's stuff.
There's fun stuff to do.
Yeah.
You see a show or go around a time that there's like a fun show she doesn't want to go see.
Yeah.
I felt like two nights.
That'd be fun.
You should totally do it.
I mean, I told, I brought it up to John.
I was feeling kind of scared because John hasn't been to Vegas.
He used to also love Vegas.
And I've been to Vegas with him.
But I don't know that it's something that like he and I would go do just the two of us
for fun.
Right.
I don't know why, but it just isn't.
We'd do something else before we do that.
So I was like, listen, I'm just like planning the seat early.
This is something I thought of and I want it to be like a girls trip like for LB's 21.
Yeah.
And I want to go with her.
And he was like, all right.
I mean, I haven't been to Vegas.
And I was like, I know that's why I'm telling you because I thought you might get a little
bit like bummed.
Yeah.
But he was like, no, it's fine.
I think that would be fun.
She would bring her friends and stuff.
No, I was just thinking you would just be.
Me and her.
Yeah, that would be fun.
Maybe should I let her bring a friend?
No, you're right.
She can do her friend stuff on her own.
Like that would be fun for you and her.
Yeah, you could teach her how to play poker.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm second guessing.
I'm like, maybe she should have a friend with her like a fun friend with her.
I could bring a friend with her.
Yeah.
But then, yeah, no, then what do you got to bring a friend?
No, I think it's better for just the two of you.
Yeah.
Then if she brings a friend and I don't, then she's good.
Then I'm going to want her to go off with her friend and I'm just going to be like, hello.
Yeah.
I know.
No.
Yeah, the two of you would be fun.
I think so.
My girlfriend Don just went with her with her daughter, just the two of them.
Oh, they did.
Did they have fun?
Yeah, they had a great time.
She won big.
Oh.
Well, to make up for all the time she's lost big.
Right.
All right.
Well, let's say how do our friends?
We got Dick frollicking around and Nikki call your girl.
Elizabeth Williamson's got a lot of kids.
Rita's rocking him in her baths yet.
Holly will have your pancakes, Valerie.
It's at the park.
Katarina.
Girl, check it.
Gabby and Nissy.
They'll be in Vegas at that time.
Oh, yeah.
Hell yeah.
Ishawn Vashpeng.
Oh, who?
Rebecca, nobody's so cute.
She's healthy, brant.
She's surrient.
Mm-hmm.
Alicia, go on, Tay.
Leslie, stop it with the coughing.
Erin, dirty Sanchez.
Jennifer, get up.
Sandra, it's not easy being green or purple.
No.
Athena, who love your makeup.
Stephanie's a stinker rinker.
Krista.
You make me wanna.
Sure.
But also our friend Courtney Moore is I.E.
embroidery on Facebook and they do hats, polos, whatever you want.
It's really cute.
We're all Facebook people.
So just look up I.E.
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And that's it.
And then our friend Robin got her super adorable dog Bosco from pupculturerescue.org.
And they know that times are tough, but even a little donation can help them cover the cost
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They're non-profit.
So it's tax-adductable donation.
It really makes a difference.
You have your every day, every time.
Mike Girstin.
So if you're in the Maricopa County area out in Arizona or if you're not, you can give Mike
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He can talk you through you just talk to him.
It's free.
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It has this number there, his email there.
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Yeah.
And if you want to go somewhere like Vegas, I should go check out Christine Black waves and
wonder travel.
I'm actually going to ask her.
Yeah.
Vegas, I think her Instagram is travel with Christine B.
That's Christine with the sea.
So check them out.
But also Adam Lerner, Adam's got a car.
He will help you lease a car, buy a car, do whatever car stuff you need.
And he will get you the very lowest price.
He's shopping my car as we speak.
He's doing it right now where we're probably going to be in a new car.
Nice.
Probably by the end of the month.
Ooh, because we have to return our release.
Sighting.
Yeah.
All right.
Thanks, everybody.
You're a parent now.
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