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Why know that when we are working in self-love, we take no shit.

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You will not allow in your space people that doesn't value you in the same way that you value them.

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People that will not make time for you in the same way that you make time for them.

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People that will not approach you with the same respect that you will approach them, right?

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You will no longer allow the bullshit.

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Welcome to the Re-Patterning Podcast where we believe your mind body system is your domain

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and that choosing the beliefs, habits and patterns that best support you is your birthright.

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I'm your host, Arden Leigh, creator of the Re-Patterning Project, an eight-week course in learning

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to free yourself from the patterns of your past and program your mind for your dreams of the future.

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Join me for these extraordinary conversations as we unpack the keys to creating our reality.

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Welcome back to the Re-Patterning Podcast. I'm your host, Arden Leigh,

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and today I am chatting with Wendy Mata, who is the author of the upcoming book,

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Brueja Curenera. If you're watching the video, you can see I've got this advanced copy

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on my iPad right here that I was given to take a look at just earlier today,

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and I'm so excited to talk about it because you guys, it is so cool.

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It is packed full of rituals and exercises that you can do.

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And I really love how Wendy and I, from what I've read so far, really have a very similar viewpoint

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on the framework of doing magic and healing and Re-Patterning.

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But Wendy's approach is from her tradition, her lineage of Mexican culture and Brueja.

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And so I'm really excited to hear about how she does the same kinds of, maybe not the same things,

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but how she achieves the same kind of results that I like to achieve in my practice,

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because she's talking about so many of the things we share the same values

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and the same ideas around Re-Patterning, reclaiming our sovereignty and agency.

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And so I'm really excited to learn more about Brueja today.

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So I want to tell you a little bit more about her before we bring her in.

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And she is the founder of Brueja Power Botanica, in addition to being the author of Brueja Curenera.

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She has initiated in shamanism, she got initiated there in Yucatan,

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and she trained in Brueja and Kurandurismo through her family lineage.

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She is also certified as a raky master and a pronocular.

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And she is also a fengue master and a certified leadership coach.

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So I'm really, really stoked to hear what she has to say today.

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Wendy, thank you so much for appearing here today.

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It is so lovely to see you.

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Thank you for having me.

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Yeah, my pleasure.

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Wendy and I are friends on Facebook, but unlike most of the guests on the Re-Patterning podcast so far,

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most folks I've been familiar with, they're folks that I've worked with before,

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are spoken with at some length and invited on.

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And Wendy, this is your and my first time chatting.

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So thank you again.

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Yes, it is.

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And congratulations on your book release.

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That must be really exciting.

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Yes, this is a lot of work.

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So I'm happy that it's finally out there.

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I'm ready.

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I bet.

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Yeah, one of the things that stood out to me at first when I was reading through it is I love in

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chapter one, you talk about releasing calcifications and I love that word calcification because

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what we're speaking about, I believe, is these ways of being or thoughts or patterns that have

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been quite literally calcified into resistance, into stubbornness, right?

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We're talking about patterns that we have taken on that have become, I can't almost

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can't think of any word other than calcified, right?

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We become stuck in them.

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And creating that flexibility, breaking up that calcification is so much of the work of

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Re-Patterning because from that place of flexibility and flow when the energy is moving, then we can

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actually choose the patterns that work for us and get out of those automated processes.

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So you've talked about, and literally the phrase that I wrote down here that stood out to

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me so much was how mental programming deposits in our bones and what a beautiful and organic

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way to speak about that.

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So I'd love to hear about your process and how you advise people and take them through

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that process of releasing calcification.

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Well, I think it will take more than one hour to teach people how to do a proper release

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of calcifications.

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I can talk a little bit about the concept in my tradition.

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I like, I like starting by saying that my ways are not the only ways and just because of

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Mexican and Amapurruj and Amapurruj and Dera.

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It doesn't mean that I am the full authority on it.

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I like to say this when I am about to teach or I'm in a conference or in a podcast or

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anywhere else because Mexico is such a diverse space and there are so many traditions within

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our traditions.

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There are so many ways within our ways and there are so many tribes within our tribes.

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So the things that I teach in my book and in my trainings are the ways that were passed

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to me by my ancestors and by my teachers, but they are not the only ones.

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So if you're hearing this for curiosity or whatever reason, I want to invite you to keep

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that in mind because you may or may not agree with what I say and that is totally okay.

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You never have to agree with me.

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But I do invite you to accept the idea, right, that there are many processes to the same

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outcome and they are many different ways and many different systems to achieve what we

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I think that's the mark of a good teacher.

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Yes, it's like always question me, always ask the questions, right?

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Yeah, the last word is never like that, absolutely.

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That is the biggest green flag for me.

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But in my tradition, what I practice at Calsification is yes, what you were saying is the mental

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programming that I think calcifies, like that's how we call them, it's called Calsification.

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But it's almost like every thought, every way, every pattern, every belief systems that

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you may have, stars creating these little tiny pebbles inside of your energy centers.

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The way that I was trained, it goes beyond the chakras.

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A lot of traditions work with the chakras, my work goes beyond the chakras.

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Again, this doesn't mean that it is right or wrong.

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This is just how I was trained.

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While we do it in the work that I do is that we identify the Calsifications that people

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may be carrying on their, to the loose, which is like the two of the light that we have,

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the org field.

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And now it's all the energy centers.

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So we work in 21 different energy centers through the body and a Calsification extraction

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can be done in many ways.

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So what I handle in the book is more mental, like there's a little bit of mantras and a

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little bit of invitations to give yourself permission to release what you're carrying, but

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it would go deeper, right?

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There's also several different ways of removing energetic patterns from people.

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There are different tools that we use for this.

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There's different technologies, spiritual technologies that we use for this.

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There's expansions, contractions, neutralizations that can happen in the energy field that we

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do when we are removing Calsifications.

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But in traditional curandrismo, what we do is something called principle of transference.

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So what we are doing is that we're transferring an energetic imprint or acclassification from

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someone into something else.

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So the most foundational level of this work is for example, limpias, which a lot of people

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are familiarized with this.

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You may have seen a lot of videos of people using X to cleanse their energy or feathers to

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cleanse their energy or smoke to cleanse their energy.

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But the principle is, the principle of transference is that you are moving acclassification or

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a pattern or an energetic imprint from your body and you're passing it into something.

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So next time, you see a Mexican there with their web, right?

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Like with their egg just passing it through their body, police know that this is what's

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happening.

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Actually, a lot of people doesn't know why it works.

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A lot of people doesn't know why just doing a limpia itself is going to make you feel significantly

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better.

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But the reason is that it's transferring energy from one place to another.

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But removing cussification is really just the first step into or healing journeys because

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what we believe in my tradition is that the energetic imprint is basically going to

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leave a hole inside of you.

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So it's almost like you have the little pebble or the little stone, right?

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And then you take the pebble out and where that pebble was, there is a dent.

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And there is a dent that needs to be repaired because otherwise you're living a dent that

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cool feels with something else.

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So what we do in Quran, that is more and more advanced practices of healing is that we

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feel that dent.

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We feel that whole with a different type of energy.

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And of course, there's a lot of different processes to figure out what that energy is supposed

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to be, the one that we are detecting.

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But we have to reconfigure the energetic programming that you carry in your bones and your

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joints in your blood so that you can actually become the person that you were meant to become.

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And if you are carrying in your energetic field, older notifications, then you will not

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be able to move forward with your goals and the ways that you want to live life because

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you're carrying hundreds or thousands of pebbles within your life, right?

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And depending on the life experiences that you've had, some of you may not really carry

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a lot of calcifications because you have been very disciplined about your thoughts because

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you have been doing energetic maintenance if you went through a situation of trauma because

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you have been doing energetic repairs.

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But there is also situations in life that take us through or dark moments, right?

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And when we are in situations of trauma, situations of pain, situations of grief, what happens

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is that we make energetic space for some of those calcifications.

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So it really depends, right?

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Where we are.

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And then when we are repairing the calcifications, we're identifying the calcifications,

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we are repairing the calcifications, that there's processes that we follow to ensure that

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those calcifications do not have a resonance to return to our bodies.

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So we actually have to do something so that we are not in the exact same frequency and

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the same vibration that we wear.

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Otherwise, you take it out of your body, you repair that energetic hole that was created,

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but if you don't change your vibration, that calcification is going to return.

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The thing is that once we begin the process of deep programming ourselves and changing

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our level of consciousness and changing our frequency and changing our vibration, then

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there is no way, at least in my belief system, there is no way that all this energetic

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imprints can return because you are vibrating in such a different frequency and such as

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different vibration that there is no match.

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There is no energetic match for this things to attach.

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That was a really long answer.

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No, that was great.

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Are you kidding me?

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Yeah.

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The universe hates vacuum is one of the things I love to say in the Re-Patterning project,

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which by the way, if you're listening is the eight-week course that I teach that inspires

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these conversations and you can learn more about it at theRePatterningproject.com, how smooth

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was that for a pitch?

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Back to Wendy.

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What I'm fascinated by, and I wrote down about the egg cleanses because that was something

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I wanted to ask you about as well because that's something that I also do in my practice,

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specifically, like mostly for spiritual attack, but I've never used an egg cleanse for Re-Patterning.

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That's fascinating to me.

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I was not aware that that could be done, so you can use an egg to change your thoughts,

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beliefs, habits and patterns as well.

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You can use it to extract, but you have to use different things to Re-Patterning.

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That is what that will be.

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Yeah, that will be the tool that you're using for the removal.

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The principle of transfer is again, whatever energy we have in our body will go in the

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body. In the book, I wrote a ritual where you can do your reprogramming using candle magic.

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That's one of the easiest ways of doing it.

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And then obviously it depends on the situation of your life and how many calcifications you

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have to release, but it is a process that will help people.

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Just by beginning the process of reprogramming yourself, removing calcifications, rewriting

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your code.

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You are already telling the universe everything else that I was scaring I'm ready to release.

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I don't have to be on that same energetic identity that I used to have.

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I am ready to change it.

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So even that is just a candle spell or several candle spells that I wrote through the book,

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they are very efficient and very strong and they do help people recreate that frequency.

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I love candle magic for Re-Patterning personally.

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I want to talk about that too, but before we move off of egg cleanses, I actually want

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to ask you something that I've always been curious about because I've been doing egg cleanses

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for years now.

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It was one of those things about magic where it really challenged my own beliefs was the

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part of the egg scrying, cracking the egg in a glass of water and reading how the egg

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appears, if there's any blood spots in it or webbing around it or whatnot, in order to

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know what was going on with you.

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That was one thing that really challenged me.

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Even as a magician, I'm doing this for over a decade now.

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And I've seen so many incredible mind blowing amazing results.

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And yet there is still a part of me with this, this like, no, come on, those blood spots must

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have been in the egg before I did the thing.

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Maybe it's just the universe gave me the right egg, you know, that had the right thing in

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it at that time that it showed, you know, somehow it knew which spot in the carton to put

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the one that I would be grabbing on today when I'm dealing with this problem or whatever

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or, or did those spots really appear in the egg after I cleansed it?

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And I've always, it's still to this day boggles my mind.

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I'm curious what your thought is about how those marks that we divine the egg from get

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You know, I never asked myself that question actually.

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I grew up having it as part of my every day.

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Come on, not every day.

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I didn't see a limpia every day, but I saw them very often because they are such as an

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important piece of foretradition.

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So I really never occurred to me to question where they come from.

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But that's a great question.

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And yeah, it could be that you have an egg that it was implanted in that egg had a little

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chicken there that died and that's why we have a little blood on it.

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But it could also be that we are giving desecritude the opportunity to help us and that we are

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allowing also ourselves to believe that those ancient traditions, because this is something

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that has been done for a long time, at least in my tradition, to unfold the power that they

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carry within.

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When I was kind of sideways, but not, or side tracks, but not when I was studying function

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in Malaysia, I was questioning all the symbology, not questioning, but like, yeah, questioning,

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questioning the symbology and the statues and the deities and all the work and that the

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type of function that I was studying.

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And I remember the revel that I am always questioning a lot of things, going to the

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Feng Shui master that was training me and asking her, why do I have to have this when

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I could have something else?

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Like in my tradition, I will use something else.

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We do manipulation of energy in a very different way.

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And I remember something that she said to me that stick up to today and what she said

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was, for hundreds of years, people have been given the symbology to these deities, to these

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symbols, to these colors, to the corners, to the dimensions that are unfolding within

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Feng Shui.

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By you using those dimensions, those symbols, those deities, you're tapping into the power

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that people has been stacking for hundreds of years.

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So it made me believe in it in a way because she was right because I was like, okay, yeah,

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you're right.

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Like if people are using this, it will be, I guess, an aggregate, right?

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Which craft terms?

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We are assigning a frequency and a vibration to something that almost comes like a persona.

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So in my tradition, we have been using eggs for a really long time and I have witnessed

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amazing transformations that have happened on people's lives just by having a limpia.

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So I almost feel like questioning something that I have witnessed, like I have data for

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it, I have cases of study that show that it works.

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So that's how I handle it for me because I have the privilege and the pleasure and the

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honor and the responsibility because there's a lot of responsibility all knowing this since

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the beginning of my life.

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So I never got to think that it was a made up thing in a way because it was always what

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I saw my grandma or my aunts or people in Mexico doing.

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I also think that magic works better.

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If you want to call this, although this is more like healing, but it is still magic, works

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better when we believe in it.

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And we do not believe in it.

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I mean, you know, this and everybody that is listening to this knows if we don't believe

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in it, it's still going to have an effect because we are not immune to magical forces and

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healing forces and frequency some vibrations.

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But if we are believing in it, we are giving it an entry point energetically to do the work

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and we're giving it the possibility of unfolding the capacity that it has to change our lives.

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So yeah, we can question, yeah, we can question the egg, we can question the crystal, we

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can question why we talk to trees or why we feel like a deity is asking us for a glass

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of meat, right?

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We can question all those things, but then at the same time, I don't know, for me, it's

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just like, let's improve it otherwise that is not real.

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There's things that I don't believe.

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Like, I believe in the power of the principal transference because I have witnesses since

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I was a kid, but I'm sure that if I see something else that I never encountered before, my logical

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brain will kick in and we're like, maybe this bullshit.

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Yeah, no, if anything, I think it's solidified my beliefs because it's, it'll be like, if

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I know I'm under an attack and I go and I do like a song bath, you know, and then I come

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out and I do an egg cleanse.

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It's like, oh, there's some spots in it.

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Got to do another one.

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And then there's the next egg and it's like, oh, there's some spots, but there's fewer spots

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in this one.

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And then the next egg is like, oh, this egg is clear.

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And I'm like, how did that, how about that?

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It's, but it's magic.

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Right, right.

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I mean, the book you have, you have the copy.

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You're one of the first ones that have a copy, actually.

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I'm so honored.

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an egg, that you go to the 21 points that are in that chart and you see how you feel before

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and after. I am not saying that you're what you were doing was not strong. I'm sure that

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it was amazing, but I invite you to see the possibilities that exist and you access

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that spiritual technology that also has existed for over the long time. And let me know,

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let me know how it feels because by the time that you finish usually and complete those

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centers of energy that you're cleansing, it makes a difference. It definitely makes a difference.

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I will, I will give that a shot the next time I, I am hoping with all like the magical

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attacks that I have faced in the last five months that I won't have to do one for a

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for a while now, but well, I shouldn't say that. It's always good to practice good spiritual

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hygiene. It is worth an egg a week just to maintain. So yeah, next time.

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Yeah, you know, I do them a list. I hope you want to submit a lot of events and I do it

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at the end of every event. I am sure that I do a cleanse. We go to a very crowded place.

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I am sure that we do a cleanse. If like if I witness something intense as a latina in those

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days right now, oh, it's heavy. So I do a cleanse. But yeah, I do that. And then the ways that

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you interpret the divination with the egg may or may not be the same than what I describe

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on the book. So I also will be curious about if it changes or not because in the book,

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I wrote a couple of different interpretations and a couple of different points of the

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meanings of things like what does he mean? We have black thought. What does he mean? We have

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blood. What does he mean when you have the lines? What does he mean? We have the bubbles.

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So I will also be curious to know if the interpretations that you know are similar. What is your

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tradition? Where is your family from? I have family from Italy and I also have family

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from Hungary. So and my which blood comes through my Hungarian lineage.

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Hungarian. Oh, one of the most amazing magical experiences I ever had was actually Hungary.

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Hungary changed my life. I'm a little town called York. Do you know York? No, I have actually never

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been to Hungary, but now I want to hear your story. Please go. Please go. Please go. Before I

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get I go to there, I think a lot of Italian people do the web too, right? I think that's a lot.

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A lot of I've read that a lot of Italian people do it. So I learned it from a place out here that

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does Celtic like British traditional witchcraft. That's where I learned the Eglens. That's just where

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I learned it. I don't think anybody owns anything. I think that as long as we treated we respect.

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Obviously there's far some traditions that are very sacred, but there's other parts that I think

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that they can be witnessed by other people. Anyways, when I was in my 20s, I think I may have been like

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24 or 25. I was in my first international trip, international business trip. I guess second,

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but the first was like Colorado. It didn't really count. I was in Mexico and I went to Colorado.

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They didn't feel like a big one because I live in the border. So crossing to the US was like

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often, but I went, I was just to work for Nokia, Nokia, Nokia, and I was responsible for the

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plastics and mechanics of one of the cell phones that they were developing. So I had to go to this town

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to do some tests on the production line where they were doing the cell phone. So I think I was there.

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I don't remember if it was there for a week or two, I don't remember, but there was a day that I had

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a day that was off. So probably I arrived to Hungary maybe on a Saturday and then I had Sunday off

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and then I had to go work on Monday. So on the morning of that day, I just decided that I was going

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to walk around the town. So I was, it's a medieval town. It's an old town and I was walking around

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York and I am walking through the streets and I'm having this feeling that I have been there.

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I'm having like, I can see, I can literally see on my brain's eyes. Oh, here there was a,

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you know, a church. Oh, no, here there was days and here was a, and I'm starting to walk and I'm

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starting to just have this sensation of familiarity that I have been there. And it wasn't like,

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"deja boo," it wasn't not. It was like, I knew at the point, you know, after I had been walking for

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around an hour, I knew I was there. And then suddenly, this is like the most intense part,

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I see a different version of me that comes to me and tells me, "I have to take you to these three."

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I'm like, "Okay, fine." I'm like, "I'm seeing this atari al-wendy." She grabs my hand and I start

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walking with this version of me. I don't know, blocks. And boy, she's telling me that I have to

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touch these three and she tells me, "You have to go to these three. You have to go to these three."

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So I'm walking there and I am walking through the cobblestones of the city, York, and we get into this

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majestic hundreds of years old, huge three. I have no idea what it was. And she asked me to touch

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these three. So I am there and I go and I touch these three and these three release a lot of energetic

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imprints that that version of me have left for me. It's really, it's like super cool. Like she told me

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that at some point in the timeline, it wasn't safe for her to carry those coats. And she had to deposit

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those coats in that tree for me to get. It wasn't that cool. It wasn't that cool. So I get there and I do

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these massive transmutation of my energy that is happening because of all these energy that is coming

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from this tree. And after that she tells me, after this finishes, she says, "Thank you." She says, "This is

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the next version of you. You have to move out of Mexico." She says, "This is what she said." She says,

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"You have to move out of Mexico. By next year, you need to be out of Mexico." So I came back from hungry

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to Reynozá, which is my hometown. And I told my family that I was moving. I didn't know where I

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didn't know when. She told me that I had to move to Europe, which I thought it was hungry, but it wasn't

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hungry. And within maybe six months of that trip, maybe eight months, I already had a job in Finland.

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I had a place to stay and a visa and I was gone. Wow. I'm so curious what were the codes in the tree.

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I think that they're still unfolding. Some of them, I think some of them needed to give me the

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clarity of leaving my hometown because it was starting to get a little dangerous. When I grew up,

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my town was pretty calm. I mean, it was like a small town in the border. There was still narco

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war, something like that, but it wasn't terrible. I never felt unsafe. Maybe I wasn't even aware of

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what was happening. But when I was getting in my 20s, it was starting to get dangerous.

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For the record, by the way, for anybody listening to this, this doesn't mean that Mexico is dangerous.

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There's beautiful places that you can visit that are safe and that are amazing. This is what was

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happening at that time in 2004, '56, whatever the time was. And I think it gave me the

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the clarity that things were coming that I wasn't supposed to be there for. And it also gave me the

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belief system that I could manifest moving out of the hometown that my family had been for

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a really long time. Where I grew up at, where my parents were born, like we had like lots of generations

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there. And it also gave me the courage to move because when you move, I don't know what your

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life story, but when you move from one country to a completely different one, like different language,

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different weather, different food, different people, different colors, different everything,

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it was completely drastic change. That happened happened in order for me to be who I am today,

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that happened. That was such a fundamental thing in my life, but it will not have happened.

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If I will not have seen that version of me that took me to that tree that gave me those

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codes, then just unfolded. Wow. I love also how I love how the universe or our spirits or whatever,

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the unseen forces that be that are working on our behalf also. I love how they bring us exactly where

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they need to go. Like what were the odds of your company sending you to the specific town in Hungary?

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And you having the day off and wandering around and getting to that specific tree. Like I just,

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I'm getting chills now because it's, I love trusting where I'm led. You know, and I wasn't even

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supposed to be there. The one that was my boss was the one going to the tree to the tree, not to the

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tree to the trip. He was the one that going to Hungary, but then he's wife was acquired

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Jellos Mexican woman that didn't want these men to go to Hungary. So he turns up the trip a week

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before the trip and told me you have to go and say, "I'm imagining your spirits like whispering in

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her ear being like, don't trust him." I didn't even have a passport. Like I hear a passport. So he's

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like, "You have to go get a passport." So I like the neck, like when he told me that day, I went to

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take the pictures and I went to the, like, the passport plays and I explained them that I had to like

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travel right away and get a passport and then that's how it went there. Wow. Oh my gosh, that's so

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cool. So I want to talk about candle magic, which I know we were just talking about a little while ago.

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And I know for me that was really the foundational start of my practice was sigil magic and candle

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magic. And I, you know, I combine them. I create a sigil. I'm still 90% of the magic that I do today.

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And I've got a bunch of them burning in my kitchen counter right now. I carve a, you know, I create

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my statement and I've intent and I do it in my real nice, like, super autistic legal ease every, you

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know, every t cross, every eye dotted. And I create a sigil out of that. I carve it on a way candle. And

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because I can choose the color of the candle and I can choose the oil to annoy it with, you know,

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and the herbs to put with it, that's going to add, you know, their own unique energy to that.

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And then, you know, I burn it in that sit and one of the first, one of the first spells I did in,

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really, I guess, I guess the first year of my magic practice was my magic practice really hit the

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road when I had a twin flame awakening. And when I learned, you know, when I, when I let go of, of my

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attachment to the person and I finally started listening, you know, a few months into the path.

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And it was like, the path is like, well, you need to be in your best place in order for this to work.

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I was like, all right, well, I guess I'll just do the magic on that. So I did a candle spell on,

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there was a new moon in Pisces and I did a candle spell for the, the sense of I am in the vibration of my

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soul's fulfillment. And naturally, like my eyeballs melted out of my head over the next few months.

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But I would love to know more about how you use candle magic. You're talking about using candle,

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candle magic to, to fill in those energetic vacuums that get left behind when we extract a belief

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or a pattern, and we can use something like candle magic to fill that back up with what we do want.

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And how is your process around that? So let's say that you are releasing an energetic

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classification or a mental programming where you do not feel like you are enough. And that's just,

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you know, making an example. Great example. I think a lot of folks know, I know I always still struggle.

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Now, I feel like we're here, something we're in the floor, right? Like we all do it.

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You know, let's say that we're having one of those moments where we are not feeling worthy of

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for people, for family, of abundance, of strength, of peace. And we recognize that we are carrying a

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mental programming or energetic classification about that. We can use a tool like an egg or like a

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lime or like garlic or there's a long less than the book, whatever feels like it's a right for you,

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just trust it. But after you do the extraction, if we're talking about candle magic, what I probably

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will do if I needed to, to feel the void, right? I will probably get a pink candle and program that

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candle for self-love, program that candle for self-compassion, program that candle for

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divine feminine program that candle for, for softness, program that candle for whatever it is

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that I was feeling that will heal, will heal the wound caused by that classification of not feeling

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worthy. And depending on the circumstances, I'll probably will do just one novena. So the

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novena candles is like the seven to nine days candle, like this is a novena candle for us, right?

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Beladora, we call it, right? That would be probably seven and this probably will be a nine,

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which is like a little significantly bigger, right? And I will do one novena candle, maybe one candle,

417
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:52,600
just to ask that candle to reactivate the energetic vibrations that I need for that specific

418
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:58,200
situation, not feeling worthy. If it was something stronger, if it was something that needed much more,

419
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:04,600
much more of a vibrational shift, I will probably ask the space, what do you need? And maybe

420
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:09,640
we'll be self-love, but also it may be different things. And I probably will do a three days,

421
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,480
a three-day thing when I will have like maybe one candle is for self-love and then the second one

422
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,360
is for forgiveness and then the third one is for whatever, right? And that is not enough,

423
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:24,680
depending on the processes, maybe I will go up to seven. And usually that's plenty. I think sometimes

424
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,240
depending on your people's level of candle magic one is enough, but I'm going to do more and that's

425
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,880
okay. But that's how I will use candle magic. Like I will just like with the intention, having the

426
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:41,800
intention of the candle to reactivate or insert or implant the vibrations that are missing.

427
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:47,400
Nice. I would also say to your example of self-love is so great. And I feel like there are a lot of

428
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,480
folks out there and probably like me at certain times included who were like, oh self-love,

429
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,600
that's so cheesy or whatever like because I want to spell to get a lover or to get more money or to

430
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:02,120
get these external things. And my spirit actually guided me a few months ago. I have a self-love honey

431
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,920
jar sitting on my altar because one year for Valentine's Day and my advance container, we decided

432
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,720
to all make self-love honey jars to fall in love with ourselves was super cute. And of course,

433
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,360
like I feel like you always underestimate, right? At least I often do. You always underestimate

434
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,400
these, the results of these things that we do on ourselves. And a few months ago, my spirits were like,

435
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:27,080
no, you need to add a self-love candle to that honey jar every week, every Friday. You need to be

436
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,440
doing that because right now, I'm like, do you think I don't love myself enough? And they're like,

437
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,880
look, you have a lot of influences around right you right now that don't understand you and are

438
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:40,280
bringing you down. And oh my gosh, that practice, the self-love candle on that jar once we, I made

439
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,880
the jar a couple of years ago, but recharging it and doing it once a week, it changed me so much. And

440
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:51,240
not even this like, oh, yeah, I really love myself kind of, which is great too. But like it gave me

441
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:57,960
boundaries. It made me not tolerate people's BS anymore. It allowed me to bring the wisdom that I

442
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:03,480
knew is within me and like give it a voice. And it actually made me in many ways, I think like sharper.

443
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,200
You, we think of self-love as being soft. And I think for me, this actually made me sharper and

444
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:14,520
clearer. I would be curious to know what are some of the surprising perhaps unexpected results that

445
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,840
you've gotten from love spells or from self-love spells or maybe that your clients have gotten?

446
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:24,760
I think I might know that when we are working or self-love, we take no shit.

447
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,920
Yeah.

448
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:37,080
Feeling to negotiate your pins. You're not longer going to be willing to negotiate your abundance.

449
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:43,080
You're no longer going to be willing to negotiate anything. You will not allow in your space

450
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,720
people that doesn't value you in the same way that you value them. People that will not make time

451
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:51,560
for you in the same way that you make time for them. People that will not approach you with the same

452
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,800
respect that you will approach them, right? It's always, especially when it comes to relationships,

453
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:01,560
right? It's always a two-way. It's not just a give me give me. It's a two-way. But it has brought me,

454
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:08,360
I did one of those last year actually in September. I did a spell for self-worth and I added in the

455
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:15,320
spell of some some worth. I also added an energetic container that will no longer allow people that

456
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,280
were not authentic because I was dealing with some circumstances of people that were doing

457
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,080
glamour magic. And I was not seeing them for who they were because they were very good at what

458
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:31,240
they were doing. And I have my defenses low because I have been writing a book. I have been,

459
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:37,160
I was dealing with some chronic illness like last year was a little difficult, right? So what I

460
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:44,440
did was to do a, I am worth this spell, but I also created the energetic container off seeing. I say,

461
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,920
I will see what I have to see. I will hear what I have to hear and I will say what I have to say.

462
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:55,480
And the people that are not resonating at my own vibration or better or at least a little lower,

463
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:02,360
but not too low are no longer welcoming my life. They show up. I love that. Girl, the amount of people that I lost.

464
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:10,760
But this is because the people are not feeling my life. We're resonating with that lower frequency

465
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,480
that I was carrying. And when I decided that I was going to expand my consciousness, the next

466
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:21,080
quantum jump, which is didn't match anymore. And some of them left quietly. Some of them made a lot

467
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,960
of noise, but because I had the self-worse spell going, I was like, okay, bye. Thank you. I have to do.

468
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:34,200
So it will do that to you. You will no longer allow the bush in. You will no longer allow. You will

469
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,880
just not allow that because you can't, you can't, you can't. Like if you try to the gen that pill with a

470
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,000
lot of water, it's still not going to go through throat. It's just not going to happen. So I saw it.

471
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:52,680
And some of those people were people that I loved and heard it did. But also I realized that the Wendy

472
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:58,840
that they met and they were so native with was not the same one that I became after writing the book.

473
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:05,880
Because writing the book may mean have to go through so much healing, so much healing. And it was so

474
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:13,000
cathartic, but also it left me very raw. So a vulnerable. So I created connections that were

475
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,760
supposed to be there. And now they're all gone. But it was it was a consequence of that. It was like,

476
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:22,200
okay, sub-worth. And you shall know pass. There's nothing this should be here. Should be here.

477
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:30,360
Yes. Oh my gosh. And I resonate with that so much too. I feel like I feel like one of the things that

478
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:35,240
has sort of been both a blessing and a curse throughout my life. And there is actually something about

479
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:39,880
like my birth information that my spirit's told me like, yes, the fact that this happened around

480
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,920
your birth means that you will always be on a path of transformation. And you'll always kind of

481
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,160
need a lot of support from your friends because you'll always be processing things. But it also means

482
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,640
that you will go through people fairly quickly because when you outgrow them, they're going to still

483
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:59,640
expect that outdated model of you and you're just not that person anymore. Yeah. That's I just want

484
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,840
to say like for people listening out there, when you're on a path of transformation, of Re-Patterning,

485
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,560
this is one of those things that you know, it's not a bad thing because it's just par for the course

486
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,160
that those same people and those same behaviors are not going to resonate with you anymore. But it is

487
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:19,000
one of those things that I do wish people had told me beforehand. So I could prepare for that because

488
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,920
you go through and also when you're first starting out, you know, I talk about something that I call

489
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,560
the revolving door of connection to where it's like all of your patterns are coming up and you might

490
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,440
also be feeling like some kind of, you know, guilt or shame being like, oh my god, I was doing that. So

491
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,240
it's hard enough confronting yourself in the mirror at the same time, you know, maybe you're going

492
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:41,080
on retreats, you know, you're you're meeting new people and whatever. And then you're in these

493
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,240
charged emotional environments where you're making these bonds, but then like people go away. So

494
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:49,560
you're like losing friends and you're moving too fast to kind of root in with new friends. And I

495
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,920
know I had a moment where I was just like, I don't seem to be keeping any friends. Am I a horrible person,

496
00:38:54,920 --> 00:39:02,360
you know, if I'm losing everyone. And finally, like I landed and, you know, yes, more more friends will

497
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,840
come in. But that's like a part that I feel like people don't talk about a lot. Yeah. And also, I don't

498
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:12,520
think, I think you made a comment in your Facebook about this, which was about the fact that we are

499
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:19,800
activators. Yes. Yes. I'll share for our audience. The, I mean, just a very short post on on Facebook

500
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,760
that when he was kind enough to leave a comment on and I said, I said, you know, I was that I said an

501
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:31,320
intention, I said an intention during an Iowaska ceremony that I was in in 2017. And I said that my

502
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:38,920
intention for this ceremony is I want to become a beacon of light that shines so brightly to others

503
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:44,680
that she can awaken and enlighten them just by her mere presence. And I was like, really,

504
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:51,960
didn't think that one through really did not. Everyone's shadow comes. I'm the canary in everybody's

505
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:57,400
coal mine. And I'm not going to lie Wendy. I fucking hate it sometimes. Yeah. Everyone,

506
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,680
there is it's all their harm comes to me. And I'm just like, look at what you're doing, you know,

507
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:08,200
and it takes me then usually doing magic to mirror that to them or to expose what they're doing.

508
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,920
And they were, oh, and then they hit their rock bottom. They're, oh, I realized I'm doing that. And then,

509
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:18,520
you know, then they get better. I'm like, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. I have an invoice

510
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:26,600
here. You know, I, you know, I got into the conclusion that or what I have been on my path for the last

511
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:35,560
couple of years is that they're only two ways. We're going to connect at some point in life. And you

512
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:43,080
are going to be activated because the codes that I carry are going to help your coats. And we're

513
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:51,080
going to love each other and it's going to be amazing. Or you're going to hate me. Because that mirror,

514
00:40:51,080 --> 00:41:01,240
because that mirror is that like, yeah, I used to take it very personal. But now I'm like, well,

515
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:05,560
that's my job apparently. I'm in a room and you're either going to love it or not.

516
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:16,200
It's, yeah, occupational hazard. Yeah, yeah, because the truth is, we are not here to control the outcomes.

517
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:23,880
Yeah, we are here to carry what we are supposed to carry. And those interactions, I have had the

518
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:30,520
opportunity to witness that they, a lot of them become just the titles of the drop that they needed

519
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:38,280
for them to shift into a best experience. And those are amazing to witness. But all the other ones

520
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:45,400
that take it like a mirror, that's not my job to control it is not my job to, to try to determine

521
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,600
the outcome. It's not my job for me to tell them how they're supposed to live life. It's not my job

522
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:56,840
for me to show them it hurts, it hurts because some of those are like people are just snappy and

523
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:03,320
stuff, but I'm on none of my business. Not my lesson to learn. I've been grabbing into that since the

524
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,800
beginning of the year because I knew that I was going to have another cleanse. And I've been like

525
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:13,160
grabbing into like not my lesson to learn. I am seeing people that they're digging their holes

526
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:18,600
with their lack of shadow work and not being accountable for their own actions and making like

527
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,960
things that I will see their negative for their own path. But I have to remind myself not my

528
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,160
lesson to learn. Not my lesson, not my lesson, not my lesson, not my lesson. I am here to witness.

529
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:34,520
And now the people that are around me, I tell them, I'm here with a glass of water. You can walk your path.

530
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:39,080
And if you get thirsty, I'll be next to you and you can say I'm thirsty and I'll give you the water.

531
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,720
I'm gonna grab the water back and I'll walk next to you, but I will not carry you anymore.

532
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:49,800
Oh yeah, man, that's such a relief to hear too. I feel like my, well my spirits have told me

533
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:55,000
there have been times like, and I do, you know, extensively expose your magic. You know, I'm just,

534
00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:00,040
I'm gonna show what's going on so that everyone, it's not my, you know, and it's not my, my job to

535
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,760
take you through that. But then, you know, your friends and your peers or whatever can kind of call you in.

536
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,880
Sometimes you gotta, you gotta do it. Like if it's affecting you, if you're taking a toll on you,

537
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,640
sometimes you gotta do it, you gotta do it. I also feel like maybe it's because like I know you have

538
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,640
a family, you know, and like I live alone. So I feel like my spirits are maybe like, you know,

539
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,200
what, Arden, you have the time. They showed me, they showed me a verse from the Talmud and it was

540
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,880
something that was just posted somewhere that I read, but they really, you know, you know, how they do,

541
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:31,080
they just put blinking flashing lights around something and it was, um, he who, it,

542
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:37,560
gosh, I'm gonna paraphrase because I'm not saying it the exact right way, but it's, um, he who can stop

543
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,440
the sins of his household, but does not is responsible for the sins of his household. He who can

544
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,560
stop the sins of his city is responsible for the sins of his city and who he can stop the sins

545
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,960
of the whole world, but does not is responsible for the sins of the whole world. And they were like,

546
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,200
you can, you can stop that, Arden, you can, you can stop, you can bring that right up and make sure

547
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,040
that there are consequences for that. So, but you know, I think it's really nice, like I said,

548
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,840
it's really refreshing to hear that there's another approach that is equally as valid to be like that.

549
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,400
And it's not my lesson to learn for them, but maybe, you know, I guess there's something I can do,

550
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,760
but it's nice to know that too that that is another approach that I don't always have to be that way.

551
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:20,520
Now, now it is very liberating, at least for me, because I used to carry a lot, and I used to try to

552
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:25,560
control a lot of things, and I used to feel like I was responsible for a lot of lives. And then life

553
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:33,400
showed me after a couple of laps that in reality, I was just here for my own experience to help as

554
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:39,400
many people as I cool, but I put in the tools, but it was other people's responsibility to comment

555
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:46,440
the tools and do the work. That's such a great distinction. And I, because I used to be so frustrated and

556
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:52,200
so sad when I was trying to put all the tools that I knew that people will benefit from, and they will

557
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,200
not take them, they will not do the work. And this is not the case for a lot of people. I must people

558
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,840
want to do the work. I'm not saying that they don't, but for the ones that didn't, people that I

559
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,560
appreciated and that I loved and that they meant something to me, and having, you know, the plate of

560
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:11,160
food and they not chewing it, right? I have to learn the hard way, because he was taking a toll on

561
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:16,040
genetically, mentally, physically, emotionally. And then I realize now one of the best things that I can

562
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:22,440
do in my life is to yes have the tools for whoever is ready, for whoever resonates to what I'm here to

563
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,800
teach, because obviously I'm not the only teacher, and we're all teachers and all students, but also

564
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,760
another thing that I can do is that I can focus on my own abundance and my own happiness. That way,

565
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,680
I can resonate as at a higher vibrations, or that he can bring a little bit of light to the world.

566
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:43,240
That is such a wonderful distinction between like, yeah, one of the things I like to say sometimes

567
00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:47,640
is like be the lighthouse, not the life raft. And if we're not focusing on ourselves and our own

568
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,360
light and our own abundance, like we can't show the way, obviously, that's such a good way of putting it.

569
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:58,040
I'd like to also ask you, you brought up Novena's earlier, and Novena's are one of my favorite practices

570
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:04,760
to, because I'm confirmed Catholic, so I've actually got two of them going on right now to do some

571
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:10,440
repair, as I said, I face a magical attacks recently. And I wanted to know who are your favorite

572
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,280
spirits, saints or ascended masters to work with when you say your novetis?

573
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,520
I don't do my Novena's to sayings, I do my Novena's to fire.

574
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,760
Oh, wow. You have never heard of that practice. Tell me more about that.

575
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:29,720
So I worked a lot with fire. Fire is the element that I, that's my primary element. And I was raised

576
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:35,240
Catholic, but then he got into a point in life when I realized he was not my path. I respected my family,

577
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:42,200
and he was so Catholic, but I realized that my world was more elemental. So the work that I do doesn't

578
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,840
use saints or collaborates with saints, I don't like using for collaborating, doesn't collaborate with

579
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:52,520
saints necessarily, but collaborates with the spirit of fire. So the way that my magic works is that

580
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:59,720
I am adding different elements and stacking different elements that activate fire in a very specific

581
00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:04,600
frequency. So it's like the frequency of fire and then we are adding the additional correspondences

582
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:09,720
and the original colors and the additional ingredients to make these fires that is creating

583
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:18,440
the transformation much more potent. When I was still Catholic, I worked with San Cura Stadeo a lot,

584
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:26,680
and I worked with Wada Loupé and this is because my grandmother, she was a very devotee of the

585
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:32,760
Hinder Wada Loupé. She will pray the Rosary every day at 3 p.m. Nonstack, every single day. This is

586
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,400
something, and now my mom, she used to nod back then, but now I think my mom does the Rosary every day.

587
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:44,440
And so occasionally I still do Wada Loupé Vela Dora not necessarily because of the virgin,

588
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,920
not problem her, but it's more like to honor my grandmother, to honor my ancestors.

589
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:55,720
That's beautiful. Yeah, but I don't do a lot of saints work, and the way that I was trained too is

590
00:47:55,720 --> 00:48:00,840
more like prayer than saints, which is not very typical to Catholics because I think it's got

591
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:06,280
the church due to a lot of same work, but it was not something my mom ever did a lot. What about you?

592
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:13,880
I love gosh, my go to's right now I'm working with St. Lucie, again for obviously she rules the

593
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:19,000
the site and the eye, so exposure, hey this is happening, take a look at this, but I also love St.

594
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:24,520
Dymphna because her work around mental health and specifically for Re-Patterning, she can get to

595
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:29,800
really deeply calcified patterns and create a corrective experience that can actually Re-Patterning

596
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:35,800
something that's really, really deeply embedded in basically one go, which is what I watched,

597
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it just be really impressive. St. Dymphna, patrons saint of mental illness.

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Okay, I've never heard of it. Yeah, I love her. She's she's great. Yeah, and then St.

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expedite because I also work with Hermes and I feel like there is a relationship between the two of

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them. So, so St. expedite is great too. St. Dwin-Win, patron saint of reuniting lost lovers is really great

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for love relationships because her novena is very like it's very, give me this is if it's meant for

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me, but if it's not then let me find love in my own time and my own way and the way that got in 10.

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So yeah, and I've done you know, I've done saint Benedict and saint Christopher and saint Andrew,

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but yeah, I think those are those are my main go-to's, my main my main folks.

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Is Benedict the one for exorcisms?

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I use him as the patron saint of avoiding poisons because I have loved ones in recovery.

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So, that I went to him specifically for you know avoiding, avoiding alcohol, not for me, but for

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for my loved one. Now, Sam Benito is the one for exorcisms. There's like a cross. Have you

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have you seen this? You know what I'm talking about? Cruza Sam Benito? I don't think so actually.

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So, it's used a lot in Rhinosa because there's a lot of black magic happening where I grew up,

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or they're what I don't know I haven't been in a while. I probably should go home for a little bit.

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The Cruza Sam Benito, I'm actually trying to figure out if I have one here, but I think this is my

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downstairs office. It's the one that is the protector for exorcisms and for bad spirits.

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So, even that I am not Catholic, I do have a little Sam Benito cross. That one of my teachers

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sent me, so I have this Sam Benito cross in a couple of doors in my house on entry points. So,

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if you were with Saints, and you have encountered spiritual attacks, and you have encountered negative

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energies, look for it. Oh, that would be great. That would be amazing. Yeah. Check Sam Benito,

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and I don't think you will be probably to the conversational, let's see how through.

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Oh, good. Okay, cool. Cool. Thank you. I appreciate that. I will absolutely check him out.

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Well, I want to invite Tomi on to ask her question at the end of our episodes,

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since we are nearing the end of the hour. So, Tomi, do you have a question for Wendy today?

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Do Wendy, I know that you've taught a course on anointing oils in the past. So, as a useful little tip

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for our audience, I was wondering if you had any advice on how to make anointing oil at home on

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short notice or in a pinch? For anything specific or just in general? Let's see. I mean, if we're calling

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specifics, I've got like a Jupiter summoning ritual coming up. So, if that's if you have any advice

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for that, that'd be great. But I think for general purposes, if you have any basic advice for the audience,

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that works just fine. So, your Jupiter ritual, why are the specific frequencies of Jupiter that you

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are trying to tap in? This is going to be in in jealous summoning, if that gives you what you need.

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Is there specific frequency? Let me re-ass the question. Is there specific, like are you looking for

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a specific frequency like the protection or like the abundance or like the warrior energy? Like what part

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of that? I would say abundance, probably. Okay, abundance. Okay, okay, okay. So, what I will do in a pinch,

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every which and this may not be the case for everybody, right? But every which you'll have,

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I don't like using the worship, but yeah, you should have at least a minimum of three to five herbs in

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your cabinets for several different things, right? And they don't have to be fancy herbs. Obviously,

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it's amazing if you know the entire supply chain and they're organic and they were planted by these

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amazing, which the chance to their plants every day. But the truth is that not everybody has

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demeans or the time or the energy to have that in their lives. So, the recommendation is go to the

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Latino store because of Mexican and we find really cheap herbs in the botanica, so the Latino stores

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or the mercados or the grocery store and have a series of herbs that will help you. Add for

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abundance, I always use rosemary and I always use basil in a pinch. And you have to call these

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energies, what I will do is that I will go I will go in my kitchen and I will put some basil on

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the palm of my hand on the left one, which is in my tradition, the receiving one, but depends on

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what you believe. And I'll put some olive oil in my palm and then I will put some rosemary and some

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basil and ask the frequency of abundance to activate in both. I probably will also put some bonesa,

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although that's harder to get just for a little bit of avaricaminos and to kind of like cleanse the

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pad a little bit. But if not at least basil and rosemary, I will put it here, I will activate it on my

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hand and I will ask edge to open up the pad to receive, but I'll take a little bit of that oil and

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I will probably put it on my third eye so that I can see the opportunities that are coming. I probably

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put it on my throat so that I can speak off into those opportunities so that I could take the

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opportunities and that will probably put it on my root chakra, just so that it kind of like grounds

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that expands and I will put it on my belly button outside of my belly button just so that it heals

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a little bit of the ancestral wounds that we carry for abundance because don't we all like we all

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have stories that are ancestral struggle right. Lens you are from a very, very specific lineage that

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is probably like a queen or a king. A lot of all those have stories of a struggle. That's what I will do.

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In a pan she takes five minutes you can go you know you but I think it's important that we have the

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herbs. I think it's important that we have at least I know and for me we have to at least have cinnamon

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at least we have to have basil and we have to have bone said we have to have roses and we have to

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have rosemary because we dose five you can do so much. Obviously you can have an entire apple thicker

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in your house but in a pinch dose five just carry them actually when I travel I like to carry a

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little tiny like pockets of them or a little bile of them sometimes and depending on what I need

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I just can go on like do my thing. I hope that helps. That's very helpful thank you. Yeah I should have

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almost everything I need around the house based on that advice so yeah. That's awesome thank you.

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I think I will be depending you know because everybody circumsensors different but I think

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up Raleigh also I don't know why I'm seeing this but I'm also seeing the bottom of your feet so maybe

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also on the bottom of your feet so that every stand that you take brings abundance.

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Tomi has plans to move soon. Oh wow. I love when things like that happen that's when you know that

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you're in the presence of a real witch. Not that I had any doubt. Well if every step I take doesn't

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bring abundance my feet pick surely will so maybe the lies coming from me.

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Why not? Well Wendy thank you so much again for joining us today. This has been a wonderful

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conversation. Just want to remind our audience once again that Wendy's book is out now it is

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called Brueja Curendera and I got to take a look at it today. It's awesome try it out. Try the rituals

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and the exercises that she's so generously unpacked throughout this book that allows everyone to

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try this at home and yeah where can folks find you then Wendy? If you go to Brueja.us that's

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BRUJA Brueja means which in Spanish? Brueja.us you can find my classes there you can also find the

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link to get into my newsletter. We're always sending different resources for people and I also

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when I don't forget about it I add the information for or summits and or festivals. I tend to host a

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summit or a festival about different teams of magic every couple of months so that's a good way

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of getting to connect with different teachers different practices learn new things challenge

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yourself a little bit with different types of belief systems just to see if they feel right for

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you or not so you can find all that in my website. Awesome thank you so much for chatting with us

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today and thank you to all you who tuned in and listened today we hope you enjoyed this conversation

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and I encourage you to go out try some of the things that Wendy and I have been talking about today

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even if you don't believe in magic yet at least keep an open mind and allow spirit to prove it to

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