1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 [Music] 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,760 Welcome to the Pop Culture Junkie podcast. I'm Olivia and I'm here with 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:17,680 Shauna and we are both extra ready for the holidays. What are your 4th of July plans? Shauna? 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:23,200 Not a damn thing. I'm not feeling particularly patriotic 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:30,560 lately. I would agree with that. I think my 4th of July plans are going to be probably go swimming. 6 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:39,520 Okay. Needed in Arizona. Right. Oh my god dude it's like 117 tomorrow already. It's not even 7 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:45,040 summer yet. It's not even summer yet until what the 21st of June. That's absolutely disgusting. 8 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,320 Yeah I'm probably just going to go swimming and gobble down a few glizzies. 9 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:56,880 Okay. One hot dog, Ray Bans. I don't know what it is lately about my Jennifer Coolidge 10 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:02,960 like accent. Impersonation. Impersonation. There we go. There we go. We know where it's 11 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:09,440 it's coming out as Owen Wilson so much lately and all the last few weeks I kept going wow 12 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,720 and it just sounds like it's gone so far because he always goes wait wait Jennifer Coolidge is 13 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:24,080 oh wow. Oh jeez but then Owen Wilson is like wow so that's sort of the sort. They're they're real close 14 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:30,880 but I'm only hitting Owen at this moment in time but I would agree with that. I am feeling 15 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:38,880 quite patriotic for Kesha which is July 3rd here in San Francisco. You're gonna go. Yeah me and my 16 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:44,400 friend Dagger are gonna go. I wish we were going together because I'm going July 6th literally like 17 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:50,720 that is all I'm looking forward to that weekend is swimming eating hot dogs and going to Kesha. 18 00:01:50,720 --> 00:02:00,480 Like God bless Kesha. God bless Kesha. That's my president. Yeah I've recently I've decided that my goal 19 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:07,520 for the summer is to see as much live music as possible. I love that. It's it's been going well 20 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:18,320 been going shows. I went to a friend's DJ thing on Saturday. I went to a cyber punk EDM show at the 21 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:26,640 metal bar by me which was I'm so jealous that looks so cool. It was cool but then I I had two 22 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:34,400 ciders and I was like yeah I'm having fun I was like making friends and then I hit my pen and I went 23 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:41,040 nonverbal and was like everybody thinks you're weird you need to leave immediately. Isn't it the same 24 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:47,680 strain that you usually smoke though? No I don't know I don't know it just hit it hit wrong I took a big 25 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:55,440 one and I keep I keep forgetting that like I hadn't been smoking for so long so now when I do it I'm 26 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:02,000 like a newborn baby again and so like I'm like smoking like I used to but I don't have the tolerance 27 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:09,360 that I used to do and I was so freaked out I was like the all everybody knows you're here alone 28 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:15,120 and thinks you're weird and then I like was walking home and I was like do I remember how to walk? 29 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:24,240 See that is why I can't smoke every time I try to smoke I'm like everyone knows I'm high 30 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:31,040 and no one else is I'm higher than everyone in the entire world and they all think I'm terrible 31 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:39,760 and then I fart and I'm like I shit I shit myself like I just pooped my pants okay and I didn't I didn't 32 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:46,800 poop my pants I just put like a regular person in my head just poop everywhere. So your your 33 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:53,760 butt hole gets high too? Yeah it doesn't know what's going on in there? Like the feeling from my like 34 00:03:53,760 --> 00:04:03,120 belly button down is just it's just sad. You're stupid you forgot out of walk and I forgot how to fart. 35 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:11,200 So different different parts of the lower half I think it's like pelvic floor things. Yes. 36 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:18,720 Yes so you know maybe we we don't hit the pen when we're by ourselves. I think I would have been fine 37 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:24,640 had I not been at a concert by myself but all of a sudden it just went like bad and concerts 38 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:31,200 like I was at a bar with live music like it was very much I always say that this bar reminds me of 39 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:39,040 being like 15 and an emo kid and back in like the days where you were I was dating a guy in a metal 40 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:46,240 band who was like a drummer and so it gives me great nostalgia vibes. I love that. Yeah it was 41 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,200 unfortunate I got so big because I was flirting with a cute boy and then do you remember his name? 42 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:59,840 No. No. No. No. No. I am going to Tucson this weekend or with this episode airs I will have gone to 43 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:07,680 Tucson just for one night. One night and Tucson. One night and Tucson. It's like the world's worst porn. 44 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:20,480 A night and Tucson on shaved bush on watch the bean sounds like a Seth Big Farhulinskitt. A night and Tucson 45 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:28,800 but it's called emo versus anime so it's gonna be like a dance party and then going to the sweet tomatoes 46 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:34,480 finally I'm so excited I feel like I've said it on this podcast before but oh you know this podcast 47 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:42,320 says opposed to all my other podcasts. I wouldn't be surprised. Oh god I know seriously the only 48 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:48,160 sweet tomatoes in the entire United States of America isn't Tucson, Arizona and I'm gonna eat 49 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:56,800 everything inside of it. I'm very excited for you. Thank you. Thank you baby. Yeah absolutely. I think 50 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,360 that's that's gonna be amazing and then ultimately you know we're gonna go see Keshia so 51 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:09,600 I wish we were doing it together but at least we're going close. Yeah yeah yeah I don't wish I was 52 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:16,080 in Arizona but I wish you were in San Francisco. Yeah agreed agreed. Well maybe I could still book 53 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:24,080 those tickets and come and set timber. Yeah I just want to biggest for work and I do have to tell 54 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:34,000 you that the second I stepped off that plane I was like oh thank god I left Arizona it is so grossly hot 55 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:41,360 like I I lost it in like two seconds I was like wait I'm so spoiled now like I can't deal for anybody 56 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:47,840 not from the West Coast Vegas is hot Phoenix is hotter. Yeah Phoenix is hotter. You would 57 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:53,600 say that little taste of it. It was like 107 in Vegas and that's still pretty gross. I know I 58 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,000 felt bad for Ziggy because his little paws were like burning when we were walking and he's like I got 59 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:03,040 him little sparkly shoes for the Vegas. You didn't really think about it we didn't go walking on 60 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,360 the strip they had like a dog park but even then it was hot and I was like oh you're so spoiled now 61 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:13,120 you have like a little San Francisco paws it's like 55 degrees here right now. He should have gotten 62 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:21,920 them little like slutty Vegas shoes like rhinestone. I wanted to get him a fedora. I mean I was 63 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:28,640 buying Ziggy hat era. Oh my god okay we need to get him. Here he has a cowboy hat. He's a Christmas 64 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:37,840 hat. He needs like a leather kink daddy hat for private months. He does. Like that. Mr. Slav wears 65 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,040 in a South Park instead of Ziggy needs. And a little leather vest. And some little leather 66 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:49,680 straps. Yes. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. A little leather daddy. Leather daddy Ziggs in the 67 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:55,040 Castro. That sounds like a man named daddy Ziggs in the Castro. Are you kidding me? Yeah. 68 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:04,880 Daddy Ziggs. Daddy Ziggs in the Zastro. Yeah. Literation. Oh my god. Okay we should actually like talk 69 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,760 about what this episode is about because you and I could jump probably just yeah for like two hours. 70 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:15,200 We should have an episode someday where all we do is just yeah that's it. But yeah all we do is just 71 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:21,680 yeah we could there's no there's no like aim there's no topic yeah and we just shut up and we feel 72 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,640 like it. Yeah there you go. I mean I feel like anyone listening is like babe let's already what you 73 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:37,200 do but you know is there ever a topic to any episodes? It's different okay. So Shana and I decided 74 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:46,240 that we would talk about an iconic film scene where the White House explodes. That's an honor. 75 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:55,600 An honor of you know the horrors. How we're feeling about Independence Day. We wanted to talk about 76 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:02,880 the 1996 movie Independence Day where times were better we had American pride we felt good about 77 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:10,160 the country. We liked Will Smith. I was gonna say we felt good about Will Smith too. So we're gonna take 78 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:20,640 a quick break and we're gonna dive into Independence Day. As we talked about right before the break 79 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:26,080 we're here to talk about Independence Day but before we start the fireworks now's a good time to 80 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:31,520 remind you about our Patreon. It's a tiny little investment in our podcast and we'll see if a 81 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:37,840 lovely shout out a first look at our PCJ pop episodes so you know exactly what to watch and for a 82 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:43,600 little bit more you can even get a sneak peek at our uncensored regular episodes. You can go to 83 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:51,200 patreon.com/popculturejunkiepodcast and subscribe right there and we'll be sure to remind you about 84 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:59,200 that later. So I want to talk a little bit about the first time you saw Independence Day where were you 85 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:08,320 set the scene. Oh god. I don't remember where I was. I was seven years old when it came out so I 86 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:13,200 don't think I saw it when it first came out and honestly I re-watched it for this episode and 87 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,720 there was so much in it that I totally had forgotten. So I think I've only seen it maybe like 88 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:25,840 twice over the course of my life all the way through. What? Yeah dude. I mean I've seen like clips 89 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:31,440 here and there and it was on TV back in the day and like TVS so you'd be like scrolling through TV. 90 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:38,720 You're like oh, depending on the day. Is it your dad really into aliens? Well now he is. Oh okay. 91 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:44,160 But no I think I've only seen it like twice. You've seen like maybe you've seen it a lot? 92 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:53,760 Yeah I've seen this movie a lot. So my dad first of all was let me watch it. He should not have 93 00:10:53,760 --> 00:11:01,920 let me watch. I saw the poltergeist when I was five. That was a little crap out of me. Oh my god. 94 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:09,600 Same movie scarring. I was five and the main character and it is also five and we had a house that 95 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,560 looked like it and it had a basement and it had an upstairs. My mom's. And your house was haunted. 96 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:20,000 It wasn't. No that's my aunt my uncle's house. Okay your aunt's house was haunted. Yeah. 97 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:26,800 But it wasn't Chicago at the time and most of Chicago is haunted so you know because they had a big 98 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:33,680 big fire there. Yes I also had a TV in my room so it was it wasn't good but that's not the point of 99 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:42,400 this. So I think that I probably watched Independence Day when it like around when it came out my dad 100 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:49,280 loves the movie. It is a great movie just how old were you in 1996 like four years? Three. Okay. 101 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:56,480 Okay so you know don't don't think I was remembering it but I do just remember being in Chicago 102 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:04,480 and watching this movie in my Chicago house with my dad and I do think that this movie is just 103 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:15,520 a great action. It does. It's a good iconic piece of like yeah America TV and and movie. I ain't film. 104 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:27,200 It's a film. It's a film. It's a good film. But I really do love this movie. I think that it's great. You have 105 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:33,520 the aliens. You have the presidential look. You have the soldier look and then you also have 106 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:40,880 you know Kuku bananas. Conspiracy. You're like. Exactly. And they all come together to save the world. 107 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:46,960 Yes. And the president was hot. I kept saying that as I was watching. I was like. Oh God. Remember when we 108 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:54,400 had hot president. Remember when you could want to sleep with the president. Yeah. Yeah. Patrick 109 00:12:54,400 --> 00:13:00,800 Farmer remembers and everybody in this movie remembers and Wilson was so handsome in this movie. Oh my 110 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:07,760 God. So handsome. So I was thinking about like attractive politician. Yeah. This is going to be a 111 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:13,120 hard love turn from Independence Day. But that's fine. This is what we do. Have you seen Gavin Newsom's 112 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:21,600 Instagram like Reels or TikToks lately? No. Oh my God. They they are so funny. I mean Gavin Newsom 113 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:29,520 is is kind of like American Psycho hot where like he's an attractive man. But it's it's a little it's 114 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,640 Paul. He's a politician. So he looks he definitely looks like a politician. But like I wouldn't 115 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:42,080 kick him out of bed, freaking crackers. Yes. Exactly. And so but he's he's obviously fighting with 116 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:49,040 you know the orange band quite a bit. And he's making the funniest TikToks in the world. 117 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,760 Obviously I can download them and send them to you. But Gavin Newsom's TikTok and it's like his 118 00:13:53,760 --> 00:14:00,720 official California TikTok. I need to post posting some of the funniest things. But I keep now that 119 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:06,880 I've been like engaging with Gavin Newsom's like shit talking TikToks. Getting therst traps for 120 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:12,240 Gavin Newsom. And that just like those those Reels that they what do they called where they make 121 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:17,600 them for like Petra Pascal and it's just like yeah. Yeah. And basically this is that with Gavin Newsom. 122 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:23,040 Oh my God. I am here for it. I'm here for it. He's handsome. And he hates Donald Trump. I am also 123 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,840 handsome and hate Donald Trump. It works. I also feel like Gavin Newsom kind of looks like Bill 124 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Pullman in this. But like the I agree. I absolutely agree. He just like Bill Pullman. Yeah. I guess 125 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:41,200 I mean Gavin Newsom should be president. He I mean he's definitely going to try for it. But he is. 126 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:48,320 Gavin Newsom is like one of those people where right now California's like him because he's like 127 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:54,320 fighting Trump. But he's also but they don't always like him. He's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's definitely like 128 00:14:54,320 --> 00:15:01,600 a moderate. Yeah. That makes sense. And he's any swing back is good. Which I guess. Yeah. Not really. 129 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:07,520 Not really. This is a patriotic episode. Damn it. Yep. Will Smith is sexy. He's got great abs. 130 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:15,200 Daddy. Daddy in this movie. Uh, Jets. Boom. Thank you. Yes. Yeah. What do you mean? Okay. 131 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:22,800 Daddy. Jets. Gold bloom in this movie is an ungodly level of hot. Like he is so fine in this movie. 132 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Which can Jeff Goldblum are you taking? You're taking Jurassic Park Gold Bloom or God. That's hard. 133 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:36,720 That is really hard. I think I'm going Independence Day. He's a super smart and he's so smart. 134 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,760 But then he's got that like lounging shirtless scene in Jurassic Park and he's like women 135 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:47,120 hair of the earth. That's it. Both of them are the same time. Fines away. I want to have a 136 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:52,960 three. Somebody's just both me and then both versions of him from both of these movies. I need 137 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:59,440 Jeff Goldblum Jurassic Park. Jeff Goldblum Independence Day. We're meeting in Paris. We're meeting. 138 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:05,360 But in you know what? Let's throw in Jeff Goldblum wicked. Screw it. Let's do it. Throw it all in. 139 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:14,240 Yeah. You know you would do it. Yeah. But it doesn't hit the same way. We'll do it. It doesn't 140 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:23,360 hit the same way. But he is so fine for an older man. He's so fine. One thing. This one thing that is so 141 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:28,000 stupid. It has nothing to do with the plot of this movie. But I kept saying out loud. I can't wait 142 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:34,640 to talk to Olivia about this. Will Smith buys Vivica A. Fox's character, a ring. That is the 143 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:40,960 ugliest engagement ring I've ever seen in my entire life. He's like she likes dolphins. So I got to 144 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:46,400 ring with a dolphin on it. It's giving like Pimp my ride. Remember when they're like we know you like 145 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:53,200 bubbles. So we may bubble shoot out of the back of your car. We gave you a bubble bath. Like she likes 146 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,920 dolphins. I'm going to give her an engagement ring with like a gold plated dolphin on it. She's like 147 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:04,480 I don't think you know she's like the second that we come back from this alien attack. You're getting 148 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,680 me a rock. You're getting me a rock and not a cool. I had a ring with a dolphin on it when I was like 149 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:16,560 the third grade because I like dolphins in the 92. Everyone did. We talked about it. We were all 150 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:22,640 trying to be marine biologists. Yeah. It was quite quite interesting how how that one happened. 151 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:29,600 What I was actually reading about this movie is it was originally not going to be Will Smith. 152 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:38,800 I was the original cast. So the studio originally wanted Ethan Hawk or Matthew Broderick or the lead. 153 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:45,680 Matthew Broderick. I couldn't say that. Yeah. Matthew Broderick. Weird. That's Inspector Gadget. 154 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:53,440 Yeah. Not Inspector Gadget. There's too many like white men in this movie. No. We need 155 00:17:53,440 --> 00:18:02,480 switched up. Get Will Smith in there. Well it was 1996 and they were afraid of a black actor or 156 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:11,120 a global market which shortly after Will Smith became one of the biggest action stars of all time. 157 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:16,400 I was going to say he's like in the prime of his career right now. He's got Min and Black and it 158 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,800 didn't occur to me until my rewatch of this of Independence Day. But I was like oh my god Will Smith 159 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:27,280 and the aliens in the 1990s like that was his stick. So he had Min and Black. He had Wild Wild West 160 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:35,440 come out. He had just finished up on fresh prints. Yeah. He was he was racking up the dough. Yeah. 161 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:43,040 Vivica A. Fox is gorgeous in this movie. Oh she's so beautiful. She's gorgeous. I forgot if the 162 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:48,960 dog lived or died in this movie and right when like the bomb is like the laser is destroying everything 163 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:54,480 in Los Angeles and the dog leaps into safety. It's like good. I can keep watching the movie now. 164 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:02,240 She also did her own stunt with that. The dog or Vivica A. Fox. The Vivica A. Fox. 165 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:08,880 I almost said the fox. Not the dog. The fox. The dog. Everyone. Everyone did it. 166 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,520 Yes. So she gave Fox a great this movie. I love her. 167 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:21,520 Yes. There is so much like good stuff. I think this movie is still like it's it's old like when 168 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,880 you watch it you're like okay I can tell this was made in the 90s but it is a movie that had a lot 169 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:34,160 of practical effects to it. So they didn't use what would have been like incredibly early CGI 170 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:42,160 at the time. And so like the White House blowing up our manifestation scene that we're watching. I'm 171 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:49,120 just kidding. I'm just kidding. What is she doing? What? Oh my god. Only if one person is in there at that time. 172 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:58,000 But maybe too. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. So that is actually like a a mature but they yeah, 173 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,440 a miniature that they do. Yeah. They all of the effects. I really think stood up pretty well 174 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:08,240 in this movie. I was really impressed with all like the fire sims that they had going on. All 175 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:14,240 the explosions. Like you said, like they have the miniatures going on for a lot of stuff. But 176 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:21,360 really when like the cars are flying over and hitting each other and even the scenes in space with 177 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:27,520 the like spaceships all flying and shooting, I thought looked better than episode one of Star Wars, 178 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:34,640 which came out a couple of years later, you know, but I thought it's it looked really good for 96. 179 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:42,400 Yeah. They had over 80 miniature sets that were built so they did New York City Skyline full size 180 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:51,120 aircraft models and they used fire crackers gasoline and compressed air. That's amazing. I love 181 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:56,080 practical effects in movies. I think that's just such a good quality to it. It makes it feel more 182 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:01,600 realistic. Like don't get me wrong. I love me some good CG too. But there's just something more 183 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:07,600 tangible about a well done, you know, practical. I think a lot of the aliens for practical effects too. 184 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:16,480 They all look like puppets, honestly. Yes. So I was actually reading about the aliens for this and it 185 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:24,320 was it was supposed to be a different alien design in the beginning and then they tested it with 186 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:31,680 audiences and people laughed at them. So the team redesigned them to be taller, scarier and put the 187 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:41,680 real alien inside of like a biomechanical exosuit. These aliens were scary. They freaked me out. Like 188 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,960 me too when they're in the scene where they have them in like the containment center and the alien. 189 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,800 They're doing the surgery on him and he comes to life and murderers everyone. That's terrifying, 190 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:58,640 especially when you're a child. Like that's gonna stick with you. Yeah. And of course, 191 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:06,560 there are like funny things in this like the computer virus that they put onto the alien ship that 192 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:12,880 like makes them be able to do these things. There's some goofy shit in here and we kept commenting that 193 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:18,880 Jeff Goldblum's character. He makes all these computer programs and then he makes little logos for it. 194 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:25,920 Andrew kept saying he took the time to make that logo. Oh, you see the little spinny graphics with the 195 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:31,440 doomsday clock. He took the time to make that. He's like graphic design is my passion. 196 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,960 I need to make a little green like angry skull. 197 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:46,480 So unnecessary but iconic. Yes. Yeah. There was some funny moments in this maybe and definitely some 198 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:56,720 iconic lines like the president's speech is still iconic. And it has been referenced by actual 199 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:05,600 politicians. So Tony Blair used it and it's been used in local US elections which is kind of crazy. 200 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:13,760 You know can't come up with anything. What's funny is the script was written in four weeks actually. 201 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:20,880 What really? So maybe that's where the weird text stuff comes from. But the idea came from 202 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:28,480 Roland Emrick asking what if there was a big ship hovering over every city on earth with Dean Deblin 203 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:35,760 and yeah I mean it's a great great movie great action film. So obviously things ramp up and people 204 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:43,040 are scared but I feel like in the beginning everyone's acting kind of chill like a little too chill. 205 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,760 I don't know they know these anomalies are coming and they're just kind of like well this will be 206 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:53,120 scary let's see how it goes. And the president even says later in the movie that he waited too long 207 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:59,840 to evacuate the cities. I was screaming at the TV. I'm like evacuate them. What are you doing? 208 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:06,640 What are you doing bro? Do you remember when we just have like hundreds of drones in the sky 209 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,680 and nobody cared and nobody could tell us what was going on and we all just went that's scary. 210 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:22,720 All right. No. We would want 100% do that. That would be so real. I guess you're right. I was just like 211 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:30,080 evacuate the cities bro. What are you doing? Like oh my god do do something besides just be like let's 212 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:37,760 wait and see you know what let's meet them first. No. I do think that I would be like that that one 213 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:48,720 stripper. That would be me. Andrew said he's like that would absolutely be you and Olivia up there. 214 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:57,920 It's like no I would be screaming and pissing myself like I am if you get a few drinks in me and like 215 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:04,080 you were going up there I'd be like oh my god fine okay. But I mean it makes sense like we did 216 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:10,400 an episode on B and they welcomed the aliens in like it's a really good thing right like I feel like 217 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:17,760 friends you would want to do that before you became hostile like if the if we just had an alien 218 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,560 over us and we started trying to attack it I'd be like what the fuck yeah but I don't know if I'd go 219 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:28,240 up there and be like take me home sky daddies. I don't know maybe during a Trump presidency I'd be like 220 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:38,560 yeah fuck it like and that's the worst sick in the world. I think there would be so many I feel like I 221 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:47,040 would go up there and there are just you know some some crazy things in this movie but I absolutely 222 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:52,480 love it if you haven't seen it in a while. It's a great movie to pop on on the 4th of July. It's a 223 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:59,360 big president it's you know belief that we would do the right thing in all kind of other. Like every 224 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:04,640 nation in the world is coming together to defeat the aliens the president talks in coherent 225 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:13,120 full sentences it's you know it's a great fantasy yeah right so there's just so much good about this 226 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:20,560 this movie. Oh I have a fun fact this is the 69th highest grossing movie of all time. 227 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:33,200 A nice A nice a sick breath. Why not? So we're going to pop Independence Day maybe not the holiday 228 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:38,240 but definitely the movie. We're going to pop Independence Day and we're going to take a quick break 229 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,240 but did you guys know there was a Independence Day 2 230 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:58,960 so apparently there was a Independence Day resurgence independence to like nine years ago yeah 231 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:07,840 the film takes place 20 years after the events of the first film during which the UN has collaborated 232 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:15,040 to form Earth Space Defense and International Military Defense and Research Organization 233 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:24,480 Space Force. Space Force. Yeah and just makes worse still exists. Is that still like an 234 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:31,520 agency? I don't know and so through reverse engineering the world has harnessed the power of 235 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:38,000 alien technology and laid the groundwork to resist a second invasion which I do think is pretty 236 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:48,560 interesting in concept because of Bob Lazar so Bob Lazar is an Area 51 scientist who has become a 237 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:55,840 whistleblower he has a few documentaries you can just like look up Bob Lazar docs and he claimed 238 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:03,120 that when he worked for Area 51 he was actually reverse engineering crashed spacecraft. So basically 239 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:09,520 what happened to Independence Day yeah exactly and so he claims that he has done it I mean he has 240 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,800 some really interesting like stuff watch the documentary I'm really oversimplifying it but that is 241 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:20,400 that is like something in pop culture in the zinc I guess and so I think that it's interesting that 242 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:30,080 they tried to bring it in now this movie here does not have any of the original like people in it 243 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:36,320 right well well Jeff Goldblum is in it yeah the I think the only character like main character that 244 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:42,960 doesn't come back is Will Smith he was doing I want to say suicide squad at the time so they kill off 245 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:50,880 his character I know I mean both movies but fun career decisions rumors are to be to believe you know 246 00:28:50,880 --> 00:29:01,920 you'd margo robby back then so that's true but yeah this came out in 2016 it flopped it's got a 29 247 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:07,840 percent on rotten tomatoes and I don't think anybody even remembers that it exists yeah I 248 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:15,600 sure sold it no absolutely not let's see here Jeff Goldblum Lee and my hymns worth is in it and he plays 249 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:26,240 Bill Pullman's daughter's fiance yeah yeah so you know it's got it's got a little cast in here but it 250 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:38,400 was a financial disappointment only grossing 389 million even though it cost oh okay it cost 165 million 251 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:47,200 so it made back how much it cost to make but still no one saw this ship yes and apparently there was 252 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:54,480 also a planned series of films that would have come out Independence Day 3 and 4 they were also 253 00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:02,080 talking about doing a TV show at the time which would have been like rebuilding after the original 254 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:09,760 film and you know one thing we did in the 90s where it was if if someone like the first one we were 255 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,480 gonna we were gonna hit that heart we were gonna do novels we were gonna do comics we were gonna do 256 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:23,440 video games and spin-offs yeah an animated version yes there was so many animated versions of live action 257 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:31,360 movies and TV shows in the 90s like there was a pilot for a animated bucket of vampires layer 258 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:38,160 they had the Beatles use cartoon uh minute black I think got a cartoon for a second anyway it wouldn't 259 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:44,880 surprise me if there was an Independence Day cartoon in the works so there actually is a comic 260 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:51,440 that came out and it was a Marvel comic it was a Marvel comic yeah yeah yeah interesting 261 00:30:51,440 --> 00:31:02,880 in 1996 and then Titan comics did one in 2016 all the Independence Day dark bathroom okay and that's 262 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:10,080 was probably trying to tie to the 2016 movie there was also a flight simulator video game that came 263 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:17,840 out in 1997 and don't know how successful that was it looks like it was for PlayStation and Sega 264 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:26,480 Saturn I never played it but upon rewatching this it the first Independence Day it reminds me so much 265 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:35,120 of Star Fox 64 like so much of Star Fox 64 is I think totally ripped off of Independence Day you're 266 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:42,080 flying under this giant like circle space craft trying to shoot like into little like nodules at the 267 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:53,760 bottom trying to shoot you low into a tiny nodule nodule opening until it explodes oh it's a gift 268 00:31:53,760 --> 00:32:01,120 you have a gift you know for making anything disgusting yes I do a gift and a curse 269 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:11,120 take this burden away from me yeah special gift you out there we are who we are as Kesha 270 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:19,360 what's that as our president would say yeah absolutely our president Kesha exactly do you think that 271 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,760 there should be another Independence day do you think we should give it a third times a charm I mean 272 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:31,760 the first time was the charm but maybe another another sequel another cash grab I think that they 273 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:38,240 should leave it but I am a very big person where like I don't like a sequel for a sequel sake I think 274 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:46,720 that's exactly what 2016 ones as well so do you need a sequel of a bad sequel probably not either I do 275 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,920 think that you could make it kind of interesting like up with a prequel like what did the government 276 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:58,320 know what were they hiding like you could kind of bring that in yeah or another person's story so we 277 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:04,960 focus on like the heroes of the 1996 film but what about the little people what about just regular 278 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:10,400 Joe Shmoe is going about their life like I don't know let's dive in and see what so and so up the 279 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,040 block was doing well the aliens were taking over that could be interesting yeah and I think you could 280 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,320 do that but I think you it really just have to be like in universe in a very different like 281 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:26,800 perspective of it yeah but I really think that Independence Day said what it needed to say at the time 282 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:33,600 and and we could really kind of leave it there I blow shit up eat popcorn yeah bless America yeah 283 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:46,640 hey in 96 yeah that's it yes exactly yeah maybe so really ultimately we want to just say that it is 284 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:55,040 not a great time in this state of the world and we are here to support any of our immigrant communities 285 00:33:55,040 --> 00:34:01,840 we love you guys we're here for you we're protesting for you yep you know really we wanted to silly 286 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:08,640 goof and laugh over this episode and just have a fun time where we could remember like oh there used 287 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:17,520 to be a time of patriotism but until all of us are free no one is free and we look forward to 288 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:24,560 a time of American freedom again one where we can hope for at least very very well said yes I think 289 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:30,960 it's nice that we have you know you have to take breaks from the horrors and you know laugh and 290 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:37,520 you know try to give yourself a little mental downtime to giggle with your besties but at the end of 291 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,240 the day I you know I hope everyone's staying safe and you know we're out there fighting the good fight 292 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:51,760 along with you and PCJ stands with you absolutely absolutely and now is time for us to go make some 293 00:34:51,760 --> 00:35:01,760 potato salad fire up our protest signs find our stash is I don't know why that was so funny I'm like 294 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:09,280 where is she going with this yep oh yeah that's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna eat so much potato salad 295 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:17,040 and just protest on the floor to go but carrying the tub of the potato salad yeah yeah yeah exactly 296 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:27,520 fire up our protest signs find our stashes of illegal explosives just for fun um just get 297 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:34,800 not to blow up the white house what just get out of my white house no we would never never 298 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:41,680 and hope that the next invasion comes from aliens for our little orange man maybe they can 299 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