Apparently once Keaton got his whole Beetlejuice shit together like the outfit
shows up on set he's ready to go and the crew and the cast were so excited they
were chanting “juice, juice!" that's amazing because I mean imagine him walking in
for the first time you're working on this movie you know what's supposed to
happen you see the set and then you see the beetle do you expect him to come
walking out like I would chant do that chets cool
oh my god okay are we actually I forget how we do this because this is
different okay yeah this is really weird for you where do we start I don't
know hi Caitlin hi Cassie hi creepy people hello this is PNW Haunts and homicides
where we chat about true crime the paranormal and all things creepy spooky
weird in the Pacific Northwest I was trying to think of more words but they
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Tarot reading in every episode so that we can get a little bit of deeper
insight into our topic for the day yeah we do I was like I don't did I forget
something no I was trying to think of something to say other than yeah we yeah
we do I feel like out of sorts today yeah we are a little bit out of sorts
yes but we do you know what is sorted you know it's cool and organized our
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I did this and made a winky sound but I didn't wink and then I tried to wink and I
think it went all wrong I guess we'll find out in the recording yeah that was for
you Leah that was for you I suck at things okay be knew who doesn't suck at
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creepiness as far as our love for you to yeah you know we love you all equally I
don't know are you gonna piss people off at the higher tiers they're like well
if you love us all the same we're lowering ourselves but you know just because
you give us more money and we give you more things and like VIP shout outs and
whatnot at the higher tiers doesn't mean we love you more gifts don't equal love
you know wait they don't no love equals love oh that's but then how do you know
how to quantify love you can't that's the that's life's biggest mystery and now
we're a philosophical podcast yeah philosophical yes I'm I'm sticking to it
okay anyway we're done for shout outs unless I have a bunch where people join and
then you'll get shouted out the next time yeah no I love that for us anyway
anyway there's real big news in the world right now there is have you guys
heard of Taylor's left no I'm unfamiliar that's it I'm done with this podcast um you
know I know who she is you literally sent me like her entire album this morning
so we're not gonna talk about it for long but we have to mention the song who's
afraid of little me because it's so fucking witchy and I just it's the best it
is the best like it's the best you can love Taylor Swift you can hate her but she
like what you I know she's hard to hate I think but what she does for when she
just like the ultimate feminist I think yeah I love her and you know what I
happen to know that some of our male listenership enjoys her as well I know a
lot of dudes who do yeah she's great yeah which reminds me I talked about in the
Missy Copsie in that two-parter I think it was in part one and I mentioned
Dewey sends me a ton of cases and I was like listening to something later and
it occurred to me um I may have made it sound like Dewey was the one that sent me
the Missy Copsie case and he has sent me cases a ton of them and I have actually
covered one of them already um but Aaron is the one who sent me the Missy Copsie
case gotta give credit where credit is due Caitlin yeah yeah well I just I didn't say
like oh thanks Dewey for sending me this Misty Copsie case but I was like oh you
know what listening to this I feel like maybe people could have been confused and
they thought that you know anyways they've both sent me several cases so it's
it's not a race or a competition but you're both crushing it so no one sends me
any cases I mean come on that's not entirely true I have a whole stash of things
I'm like looking at them hmm should I do this should I do this I'm scrolling I don't
know if you can tell yeah you know the other thing is we have on the Facebook
discussion group there's a whole chat for people to drop in case suggestions
oh cool yeah and we have the same thing on Patreon too so I should get on
Facebook and snoop around there haven't been on their ages ages uh well I have more
news like this is a very news heavy episode okay there's some paranormal news in
the news some news in the news you don't say yeah okay are you ready for this I
mean probably not but let's do it this is an article from Entertainment Weekly
and the headline is hotel from the shining catches fire in Oregon yeah in our own
backyard so Timberline Lodge was the exterior for that's right yeah for the
shiny I knew this yes you've been there right like like blasher yeah I'm just saying
I knew about the Timberline Lodge fire I just did not put two and two together
at all this was April 19th yeah literally yesterday this
was nobody worry sorry if I'm like making you guys worry it didn't burn down
everything is fine the fire was contained to like the roof and parts of the
attic and they were able to put it out my gosh but do you you've said have you
seen the shiny and it's a scary movie I've seen parts of it I don't know that I've
ever sat down and watched it like beginning to end at the end it burns down so yeah
um it's a little creepy that interesting I mean I know buildings catch on fire it's
a thing that happens it's not like that much of a coincidence that it burned out
in the movie and it caught fire but I mean I just I don't know how many buildings
are just catching fire like it it's not like an everyday thing I mean that's
what the fire department does how are they still in business if things aren't
catching fire daily first of all still in business okay capitalism has really
messed us up in business um yeah people still need their services as it were
for quite a few things and burning buildings that that's just one of our yeah but
I mean yeah it's not a super rare occurrence no so it's a coincidence but it's
like not that big of a coincidence it's just kind of weird and eerie and cool to
talk about because it's an Oregon it was in the shining which is creepy yeah yeah so we're
glad it didn't burn down because that place is beautiful yeah and creepy I'm so creeped out right now
oh boy in other news oh my gosh more news in the news oh no okay are you ready I'm
yep I brought a pet I see that yeah I've been noticing that for some time um and I can't
help but notice that you have your beetle juice cup there as well so do I yes oh what's on my
shirt it's beetle juice stuff too okay all right all right guess where I went where I went to the
beetle juice musical you did that's right I knew that I did I'm so excited oh I got one more
thing I forgot oh okay it's a shot glass it's a sucks yes I'm not gonna tell you what it means
because you have to go watch the musical but it's hilarious I'll tell you off-air kit obviously
obviously the musical was amazing um I really enjoyed it obviously I'm the huge beetle juice fan
I don't know why you can't tell I didn't even I didn't bring my landyard but my landyard is
beetle juice too I mean it's in my purse because I drove here so I have to have my keys but uh it's
in there it's yeah it's really far away I will give one spoiler to show you like tell you guys why
I love this so much it was a little different than the movie which I appreciated obviously there's
a lot of music in it it's a musical yeah but the storyline was like a little bit different oh okay
but spoiler okay if you don't want to know skip forward like 30 seconds so you know in the movie
beetle juice he'd like creepily hits on the woman oh yeah he does it to Adam too in the play like
he even more like harder than he went on Barbara and it just it just made me so happy I was like
I I can get down with this I love me a bisexual beetle juice I mean yeah but I mean are they still
like underage oh oh okay I won't spoil that either I don't know why I'm still like protective I don't
want to spoil things but they do address the age in a pretty fucking hilarious way okay but these two
that he's hitting on are technically adults okay it's the girl he tries to marry the underage yeah
okay okay I was like yeah that you know like bisexual yay pito not so much you know he's a lot better
in the in the musical I think oh well I mean the bar wasn't that very hot yeah no I'll tell you
about it actually because today we're talking all about beetle juice the movie and it relates to
the Pacific Northwest because I went to a show here in Portland that's the connection I love it
I love it what I want it's my podcast yeah right right and then it's my episode I think
yeah that's what I'm gonna say right yeah that's better let's talk about some weird facts about the
movie beetlejuice okay poltergeist became the highest grossing horror film of 1982 if you haven't
seen poltergeist I don't know where you've been recently or like have at least heard about the plot
basically a poltergeist which is a ghost who like moves things and throw things in as crazy yeah
it terrorizes a family who moves into a house on a burial plot yeah it's like a burial ground burial ground
right not all the chestnut yeah so it's the basic plot well six years later a little movie came out that
reverses that narrative where a human family is the one causing the recently deceased distress
oh yes god that's it's been so long that movie is the one and only Beetlejuice say that three times
fast I wouldn't even I wouldn't even dare I wouldn't try just Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
he didn't come I'll just play with my worm
so the movie did pretty well uh the 10 highest grossing film in 1988 okay great lens year of birth
yeah I'm gonna have to stop saying that soon why giving away your birth yeah because people can do the
math yeah gross speaking of gross I was curious what the high what the highest grossing film of 1988
was because beetle juice was the me too so clearly I googled it because it's a tangent yeah
and what I found is kind of funny it was who framed Roger Rabbit which we just talked about
and you're like I'm not I can't picture this movie really yeah that was the highest grossing it was
the gear of my birth yeah it's a good movie I told you okay I mean those little right gangster weasels
in zoot suits I'm telling you it's hilarious all right I mean the film even scored Timmy B his first
Oscar that's Tim Burton oh okay I was gonna say you and Timmy B you guys are buds yeah we are okay
okay and Timmy B and it also won a Saturn award for best movie ever made what wait what this
Saturn award I don't know but it was the best horror movie of 1990 is what it won I mean is Beetlejuice
really considered a horror movie apparently I mean it's scary to kids I'm assuming it wasn't
scary to me but I remember seeing it and I was scared at the time I don't think I would think it was
scary now yeah no it's not like yeah and we'll talk about it later we'll talk about the special
effects I'm so excited beetle juice even sandwormed its way into the number 88 spot on the American
film institute list of top 100 funniest American movies wow is it a horror is it funny I well it's
funny it was okay and here's the thing it debuted in 88 and it's number 88 yeah I just wow
isn't that weird that is weird co-winky beans weird you know how I love the numbers me to speaking of
numbers one year after the film was released there was an animated series did you ever see that
I feel like I vaguely recall I can send you the um um intro do it because when I watched
the intro to this I was like oh my god it totally took me back I remember watching this I definitely
watched this at some point it is kind of interesting though that they made it into a cartoon for kids
because it's not really a kids movie um which brings me to kind of a fun fact about me I might have
told this before I don't remember but I used to watch beetle juice all the time growing up you did
except it was the version that my mom recorded from the TV with commercials all of the naughty parts
cut out so I grew up thinking like yeah this is a kids movie right like there's no naughty thing oh my
god that's so funny the uncut version later on and I just fall even more deeply in love with this
movie because it's fucking hilarious and it's dirty and beetle juice is the dirtiest old man and I just
I love him oh my god even though eventually everything worked out like creepy wonderful magic with
this movie it took some convincing by Tim Burton Timmy B to get the cast on board because they thought
that it was too weird I mean I can see it I can see it too but I'm glad that it happened because it's
like the best kind of weird yeah yeah and the movie's success even brought about a sequel
and I know what you're thinking there is a sequel coming out in September but this is not the
sequel I'm talking about wait what it was called "Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian" have you ever seen it?
no I've never even heard of that there's a reason for that it was never made thank fucking god oh okay it
was like I don't that doesn't sound familiar at all yeah it was never made surprisingly despite
having a full-ass script and Michael Keaton and Winona Ryder on board okay old Timmy B
Timmy he thought Timmy B he decided to do Batman and said he thought that that might be a better way
to go and I think the entire world agrees yeah that Batman would have is better than beetle juice goes
Hawaiian yeah that's true yeah oh oh boy Michael Keaton Batman I think he has to be because it was
in New Girl so it has to be true yeah yeah I mean no I was gonna say I'm pretty sure he was at some
play yeah yeah so Batman Beetlejuice same thing yeah you know mostly glad they didn't like
totally ruin like the Beetlejuice franchise like god can you imagine yeah I'm glad they waited
for 2024 because I think wait so is it now coming out yeah it's coming out September 2024 the wine one
no it's called beetle juice too it's not Beetlejuice goes Hawaiian I think that project is
officially scrapped okay it's got fingers crossed although I would I don't know I kind of want to
see like how that train ref would go yeah but I don't know I think hopefully this new version will
just like enhance everything and not not break it down yeah I mean we're gonna find out
do you like coincidences scaling no do you like when I can say coincidences correctly
kind of not like I'm drunk I don't believe in coincidences first of all but I mean you know that's
because I'm the true crime gal you don't believe that the coincidence of the fire and the shining hotel
we were just talking about it and you were fully convinced on that coincidence no I definitely was not
you were trying to convince me there is kind of a weird coincidence well there's kind of a
couple weird coincidences in beetle juice and the first one is at one point this is a quote from
the movie beetle juice says I've seen the exorcist about 167 times and it keeps getting funnier every time I see it
and that's like one of the best that's like one of the best lines I've ever heard my entire life
um yeah but it's interesting because Gina Davis who plays Barbara in 2016 they made a new like
television version of the exorcist and she plays the adult Reagan and really yeah also Linda Blair
who plays the child Reagan in the movie the exorcist yeah she was actually briefly considered for the role
of Barbara interesting like a little circley mix of weirdness here right yeah if you want even more
weird uh Tim Burton wanted originally Sammy Davis Jr. to play beetle juice it's kind of a weird
I don't know I don't know I'm not sure how this all makes me feel I'm gonna put it out and then
I'm gonna have maybe Caitlin talk through it with me I'm not sure okay yeah so it's obviously like
probably wouldn't have fit the character how how the movie ended up turning out um there's a
really big reason for that though why the character is the way it is the original script was actually
very very different from how the movie eventually turns out um beetle juice's character was supposed to
be like really demonic like wings like creepy like not funny creepy the way he is but like actually scary
really okay so that makes sense why maybe it was sort of categorized as a horror film yeah maybe
because it originally technically was yeah so I got most of these facts from the IMDb like trivia
about the movie and I'll link it with you guys um so in here I'm just gonna quote what it says because I'm not
I don't know like how to put this in my own words it's kind of it's interesting they say originally
conceived as a winged and demonic presence taking human form as a small middle eastern man
subsequent drafts made him more African-American and he spoke a kind of pigeon dialect
wow okay so so they were basically making the dark man evil and demonic yeah I was gonna say sounds
real racist yeah so okay at first I was kind of like well why I mean why couldn't be able to do
he could be a black eye like who cares but I mean yeah the way that they originally wrote it kind
of is just like yeah we do we need that I mean come on no no no there's enough vilifying I
vilifying any person yeah of color yeah it's that's pretty yucky I'm totally fine with it being a
white guy I believe yeah the literal words listen they are the worst and I don't think they've
gotten their fair share okay exactly but anyway so I like I don't know I can really
word that in my own words I didn't really sure how he felt about it so I read it out loud and I was
like no I kind of know how I feel about it yeah okay I'm glad we agree yeah no that's pretty yucky
but we can move on to something funny yeah and I'm like I've said it before I'm glad that this movie
did not go that way because that that would have just it wouldn't have been a movie like it would have
been good no no none of us to rate our still be talking about it exactly yeah not at all but what
would have been maybe an interesting movie as if Beetlejuice was Arnold Schwarzenegger I'm sorry what
to me be did consider Arnold Schwarzenegger for the role of Beetlejuice Arnold Arnien S well Arnie S
asked he turned it down he was like I'm busy like being an action star like that is not a bit it's
just it's not a match no it ain't it not ain't it no no the title character Beetlejuice only has
14 and a half minutes on screen really yes and despite the movie's official spelling of the name
Beetlejuice his name is actually spelled B-E-T-E-L-G-E-U-S-E which is also pronounced Beetlejuice just
yeah radically different spelling and it you do see it in the movie like on his headstone and stuff
yeah was gonna say that's yeah but they decided like for marketing and stuff people being able
to pronounce the movie name without being confused yeah it's probably better okay okay but he is
named after a red orange star in the Orion constellation I'm sorry what that stars name is Beetlejuice
there's a star named Beetlejuice and Beetlejuice is named after it okay ain't that cute
this is brand new information isn't really yeah no I've never I've never heard that before good I'm
glad I'm like telling people things they don't know that's so wild yeah I've never heard that before
I had heard it before um but I yeah I'm like Beetlejuice in formation so uh that's not weird that I know
that no but there's a lot I didn't know about the movie like most of the stuff I really didn't know
including the fact that Tim Burton described Beetlejuice to Michael Keaton as
having lived in every time period and no time period because he's Tim Burton okay and apparently
talks and riddles uh so Michael Keaton was like the fuck do I do with that information yeah so he
ends up basically creating the entire character himself yeah yeah uh that makes sense
even his hair his makeup like the mold they put on his face all of this was Michael Keaton's doing
okay he even ad-lipped ad-lipped ad-lipped he even ad-lipped 90% of his lines really so they just threw
this man out there and was like you know say like this and then maybe do do whatever you think
and uh we'll make that the movie that makes it so hard for the other actors to know what the
fuck there's supposed to do I mean it's kind of fun I think yeah it can be but that's just like a lot
of create like having the actor create that much is a lot but it's thankfully it fucking works
I think it it totally worked yeah this is funny too because Michael Keaton actually
based this character off of somebody else in another horror film which again links it back to horror
he based his character on a character named Chop Top from the movie the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
oh that's so rich familiar I've never seen Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 I've seen one uh
but I don't like horror so I kind of like do that when I watch it but this one I might watch it now
because this character let me show you because I think I think based on it's like it's like it's like
strongly like heavily based on you guys should definitely go watch the link I'll put the link in
we'll probably end up posting a photo to be as late the resemblance is just the teeth he even has
green hair he's all pasty I didn't watch the full clip he has a hanger and I don't want to know what's
happening why are you still watching it I can't stop weren't I'm not watching this movie uh yeah
okay I just wanted you to hear the voice and like see everything because he doesn't but I just like
I couldn't stop I could not stop what was he doing I don't want to know
so weird it's so weird but did you hear the voice yeah isn't that beetle like it has like the like
country-ish like yeah I always say country I mean southern well it doesn't really sound southern
I don't know it's like it sounds backwards yeah it's trying to be nice
yeah well I don't know that calling that southern is nice I don't know why I'm like uh trying to be
nice those gross character anyway apparently once Keaton got his whole beetle jiu shit together
like the outfit he shows up on set he's ready to go in the crew and the cast were so excited they were
chanting juice juice that's amazing because I mean imagine him walking in for the first time you're
working on this movie you know what's supposed to happen you see the set and then you see
the beetle juice if I can come walking out like I would chant too that's just cool yeah so this
is actually Michael Keaton's favorite movie he says really and you know who absolutely like
doesn't like this movie and thinks it's his worst Alec Baldwin which like he's really good in this
movie I love that character I mean like no offense but like has he done that many other movies like
I don't know I mean he did really good on SNL yeah and then he was in that one movie that really
went off gangbusters oh I forgot about that that's really sad yeah oh let's be nice to him I just
wish he liked this movie because like everyone else does you know I I don't know I mean
maybe there's something to this like is this man to be trusted doesn't like beetle juice
some guessing he's not gonna be in the sequel I'm you know probably not darn it
well that's sad oh well I hope he's okay anyway moving on so like I said a lot of things about this
movie changed including the title origin do you want to guess what the original title is I mean no
it's like super basic it's like the most basic of all the basic things that ever basic I had more
basic than beetle juice beetle juice isn't basic that's like that's the coolest name I know I know
but it's like the characters names like how do you get more basic than that I like I it was called house
ghosts house yeah that's like the boringest thing about who's doing house goes house goes and then I guess
kind of as a joke but I'm not I don't I don't think it was a joke uh to me be suggested that they
name it scared sheetless I'm sorry but they like totally took it seriously and considered it which
I don't I feel like it wasn't a joke yeah but that would have been like kind of a cool title but not
not like beetle juice beetle juice is unbeatable but scared sheetless is pretty good yeah I just I don't
think that I will ever recover from scared sheetless scared sheetless okay because they because they
got their sheets and then they take them off I'm just saying like scared sheetless sounds like it could
be a movie like something to do with the clan oh and that would be like kind of a turn off I was
seeing like porn porn I don't know scared sheetless like a scared you don't want to be scared yeah I don't
know I mean some you know we're not sure to yuck your yum yeah unless you know unless you are part of
the club yeah yeah let's not no thanks but I also think it probably wouldn't have been as like
kid friendly I guess yeah because it was obviously very kid friendly yeah old Timmy B are you guys
gonna take a bite yet Timmy B okay what do you guys think I care what you think though
he actually did not like the now famous infamous scene with the dayo song and the shrimpies popping
up out of the table grabbing full spaces you know the banana boat song oh god it's been so long
it's been so long day like come and me one go home yeah I remember the shrimp
so it's like the ghost basically possessing them to do this song and dance anyway don't you see it like
that's a great scene but yeah Burton didn't really like it he thought it was like kind of boring and stupid
apparently so okay whatever Timmy B we even cares what you think like do you even make movies I mean come on
what he did like though was the kind of fake looking like not very good special effects which were
on purpose he really liked the look of like the B movie special effects I guess which I do too I think
especially with it being a comedy which they mention it's like it is kind of better that they
didn't take it super serious and like put really good special effects on it because it just would have
been well it wouldn't be funny yeah it wouldn't be that funny it would have definitely been more of a
scary movie yeah yeah and that's actually funny too because they there's a point in the movie where
Beetlejuice shows his scary face so I don't know if you've seen like the the couple makes their face
is like scary like polar nose out and do weird show their face oh yeah yeah so Beetlejuice has one too
but you never actually see it in the movie you will see it from behind but they actually made the
full front of his face like they did a whole elaborate really like makeup effect on him but they
thought that it was funnier only like just showing it from behind and not actually showing you what it
looked like so they didn't ever actually show it from the front I mean I could see that yeah yeah
but it is kind of funny from the back because it's like snakes that come out and they like yeah they're
weird also the freaking gorgeous house is just a facade built on a farm filled filled filled filled
filled the farm filled the speaking of some of the effects from the movie there is at one point a
giant merry go round that comes out and the head on it is like a skeleton head yeah and it's definitely
a jackskellington head yeah and this was pre nightmare before Christmas so like Tim Burton I guess
has a good idea sometimes and he like keeps putting them in movies and drawing them until they have
their own movie I guess yeah it really is like this interwoven world yeah yeah I don't like
obviously I don't think he meant it to be because jackskellington wasn't a thing yet yeah so I don't
think he meant like purposely put it in there like oh I'm putting jackskellington in this movie I think
it was just like a cool character that he wanted to I don't know I don't know for sure I could be wrong
you never know yeah he is a brilliant evil genius yes and the wise the evil I heard he kicks holes
in walls and just like not about that way that I mean that seems a little intense yeah he's like an
intense guy yeah it gets mad and frustrated and I've watched a lot of documentaries oh no yeah
anyway also I think it's pretty funny I don't know so spoiler alert the couple in the movie dies
within like the first five minutes of the movie it's not really a spoiler it's like what if you
haven't seen it maybe skip forward like 30 seconds because I'm gonna spoil something for you
so all these years later I know how do I ride I don't know if you remember how they die they were
in a car and like a dog runs in front of them yeah I'm kind of like break and swerve yeah well there's
a bumper sticker on the back of their car that you see in the beginning of the movie it says I
break for animals oh it's not sad it's like it's like a depressing foreshadowing yeah yeah oh that's
kind of a mermaid I know I mean I'm laughing because the movie they die like that's what happens but
yeah you know the movie is about them being ghosts so it's like it's okay it's funny it's not so sad
have you heard of the invisible string theory it's all over TikTok or I think I've heard of it I don't
I haven't engaged also Taylor Swift has a song called an invisible string this episode is not
about her okay okay all right basically it's like you know you're you woven together you're on a
string to your person and eventually you will connect with each other that's the basis of the theory
yeah actually two girls one goes just an episode on it's really good yeah it's really cute you
should go listen to it if you want to know what it is but there's kind of a little invisible string
theory relationship with this movie and I think it's so fucking adorable we're gonna talk about
her real quick I know you're gonna love it do you know Catherine O'Hara is oh god Deelia
she's the sound so familiar yeah okay yeah okay okay why am I not going fucking um
home alone no what's the the show Schitt's Creek Schitt's Creek oh my god yeah she's been in so many good
on programs movies I love shows yeah she's great she's amazing and she deserved this
so she actually met her husband on the set he was the production designer named Bo Welsh oh
and she actually wasn't even originally supposed to be in this film really yes
Deelia Deetz was cast as Angelica Houston who was Mortisha Addams yeah I just don't know that I see
it though oh yeah I don't really I could I can kind of see it because she has the you know like
New York like she could be like the artistic creepy lady from New York you know what I mean
yeah like not cool creepy but like yeah I could see it but it definitely was better the way it turned out
yeah I think so I think this was meant for her for sure and it was definitely better that it turned
out for them too because yeah I mean they would have met some time at another time because you know
they're strong together but it was just it's kind of sweet how like oh I wasn't supposed to be here
but then I was and I met my husband and they're still together like what yeah that's so cute
and actually it says in here that Bo Welsh didn't even know like he was allowed it talk to the actors
so he kind of waited until the end and then he finally asked her out oh that's adorable we love a
meat cue yeah not everyone can meet in a church okay not everyone can meet on the set of Beetlejuice
you see there yeah it's true it's true I mean their thing is cool too I guess so I brought you up with
the love and then I'm bringing right back down with the death I'm laughing sorry the movies about that
it's funny okay and as goofy and amazing as this movie is it does revolve around so there are a few
not so fun facts okay great so there is a point where Barbara and Adam are in like at the afterlife
office where they go into that I can't remember what it's called land of the dead or something yeah I
think that's what it was not something they go through the door yeah they're in the dead world and
they're there's like a whole business going on back yeah and at one point there was an announcement
of flight 409 is arriving at gate three and sadly there was a flight 409 that did crash
into a mountain in Wyoming in October 1935 and it did kill all of the passengers on board all
of the passengers all the crew oh I just got like chills I don't like yeah like I'm freezing right
now all of a sudden I don't like it at the time it was one of the worst plane crashes in history
but they still don't know why this particular plane crashed so that's really sad too I guess they
didn't get that the black box thing yeah I don't I don't think that was a thing I don't know in 1955
yeah when did the black box thing start coming around I don't know but it certainly not in 1955
okay so yeah no they still don't know why it crashed which is okay great but that's not the only
mess casualty they reference in the movie remember do you remember the football team there's
like a whole thing with a football team in the movie yeah and they like dance with the with
Lydia at the end yeah they were actually based on a real football team Marshall university football team
all right who oh gosh this is so sad 37 of their players passed away on a southern airways flight oh no
it was flight 932 okay but they did change the colors of their uniforms so that's good no okay
I was like I don't know I know I think it's kind of sad that they're like I know the movie is about
debt I keep saying that the movie is about death but like it's kind of interesting it's an interesting
choice to use like real life things in a movie like that but I don't know they're just little references too
so yeah yeah I think in some of the instances if they changed some of the details to sort of like
try to reference it but not be like to on the nose or to direct with it I think if they did have
the uniforms I think that would that would have been like too much yeah if they like looked like
dead football players that were actually dead football players like that would be a little sad
that maybe yeah I don't know that's such a tough thing because everybody probably feel if you ask
five people on the street about that they probably would each feel differently yeah let's you know
but I still love the movie of course so the man who wrote Beatles Jews is Michael McDowell I think he
passed away before it was made I want to say really I think and that name sounds sort of familiar
this guy was totally obsessed with death he wrote like a dissertation titled America American attitudes
toward death okay you know studied it constantly his whole life he had like murder,
bilia like death memorabilia post-mortem images stuff like that so he collected all of that kind of
stuff so it's kind of like a no like no wonder he wrote his whole movie about death how many times
have I said that now it looks like they actually um north western university has his collection
of memorabilia and oh it says they had an exhibit in 2013 so I don't know if that's like maybe
still around somewhere or not but that'd be kind of interesting yeah to see a bunch of death stuff
death stuff together in one room so the ending of the movie is really sweet it's
Lydia the human girl kind of has like new ghosty parents but like her other parents live with them
too they split the house everyone's happy because her parents weren't like the greatest to her
but now I know how it's like these ghost parents who are sweet and anyway it's a sweet ending but
it wasn't always that sweet there was an alternate ending where Lydia too became a ghost oh
meaning she had to die she did yeah yeah um which is not great also she died in a fire like
interesting I chose to talk about a fire at the beginning of those and I totally forgot that part
yikes but also they they kind of were like maybe we better not because teenage girls might think it
was cool to off themselves and be on ghosts yeah probably not the most responsible portrayal in media
yeah it was already like she was kind of writing you know she wrote a suicide letter in the
yeah and that's what's tattooed on the hand in my shirt where she's like I am alone and she
scratches that I am utterly alone hmm hmm plummeted anyway oh so that part always kind of like
I don't know like kind of always made me uncomfortable yeah she's she's gonna kill herself like
watching it and like growing up watching it like slowly realizing what she's actually saying
is kind of a weird thing so yeah but that they didn't kill her at the end that would have been
fucking terrible yeah no I think that would have just been another thing for you to talk to a therapist
about yeah you know this could be a whole nother podcast episode on how awful beetle juice was for
American history and all these people and here I am over here like sponsor us better help
that too that too yeah I mean I think we we're the poster children of your cause really
of me really mental health yeah we seriously we need we really need help well I'm gonna end with
some fun facts so maybe we would don't need help like right away this is gonna make us feel better
have you seen the tv show community I haven't seen it yeah oh you have yeah okay so you're gonna
get this I hope so I'm a goldfish they had a little Easter egg in there were each season they would
say beetle juice one time and then the last time they say Beetlejuice there's a guy in a Halloween
costume in the background just dressed like Beetlejuice that walks by oh my god I think it's so cute
I'm like that's that's a thing I would put in a show if I were creating a show oh yeah yeah the movie
was also the first DVD that Netflix them don't remember when they did that we're back in 1998
1998 the first big of his side notes um I think I have to go jump off a bridge now because apparently
I'm ancient if you are younger than us and you don't know that Netflix used to physically nail
physical DVDs which were little discs that movies used to be on that you would have to put like a
CD I don't do yeah I know what a CD if they don't know what a DVD is they don't know what a CD is
damn it anyway uh yeah they just recently got rid of that and sorry mom gonna call you out she's
she still use that service up until they got rid of it and she's like yeah they're getting rid of
all oh honestly I would have used it too I totally wouldn't but she's right I mean they don't have
every movie to stream and if you don't want to pay extra and be lazy you want to wait for it in the
mail yeah I don't do that okay the last fun fact I have for you is that last year 2023 uh tvs and tn t
they aired Beetle just 24 hours for Halloween kind of like they do with a Christmas story during Christmas
oh nice yeah that's adorable do you think we should do some tarot for this yes let's do some tarot
orvisually okay I'm ready Beetlejuice that was a shitty bridge I hope I hope you couldn't see that
I did Beetlejuice oh I feel it oh I feel the energy I was a good one of the ghost with the most
oh boy I have a crush on you I have a crush on the weirdest fucking character you really do okay I'm so
sorry hey listen let's not summon demons in this new pod lab uh well we're about to Beetlejuice
okay I guess I need to put up more signs okay one of them is gonna say don't summon demons in the
pod lab the other one's gonna say please do not do coke in the bathroom funny okay can I spoil one
more thing for the musical seriously yeah if you don't want to hear this fast forward 30 seconds
one of the first songs he talks about doing like lines of coke what it's so funny he's like he's the
best best version of Beetlejuice I've ever seen he's like the dirtiest like drugiest he's like wolf
of Wall Street beat Beetlejuice it's hilarious it's great that's amazing it's a good time don't bring
your kids yeah don't yeah it sounds like probably don't bring your kids oh I shuffled more again okay oh
yeah you don't cut that out no oh okay I feel it I feel it I feel it she's feeling okay it's like
this one right here it's kind of sticking out get her king of sticks which is the king of
swords which is the big dick energy oh do you think Beetle juice has BDE probably I mean he acts like
he does yeah is that what big dick energy is though like big it to you make it or is it like
you truly have it no I think yeah you don't need to show it off right exactly like rich people don't
flaunt their money you know okay like if you got a BDE you ain't trying to show everybody that you got
BDE so he doesn't but he thinks he does men his head get shrunk at the end because he
grope so woman's thigh okay so king of swords right yes car okay sword he words wait
am I wrong is it once I don't know I've been wrong the entire I'm just gonna say I'm right I don't know
we have to cut that whole part of them wrong everything related to that well wand sword I mean either way
very foul like well god yeah look at the cards and we'll build two cups coins or pinnacles yeah oh I
think okay so stings oh blades okay so it is king of wand sorry guys listen okay sword wand either way
quit playing with your dinghy at the table well it's because it said sticks to that's what you me off
because I think I'm a 12 year old boy so when you have sticks you stick by it yeah yeah like
their swords okay see I don't feel so bad for jumping to conclusions no I don't think you should
either way we got there either way he doesn't have BDE so if it was a BDE card I think maybe the
fact that I thought it was brought up the conversation you know I think it was an important topic
I think so yeah yeah I'm leaving that all in yeah suck it suck it tell me about the king of ones all right
keywords are leadership self confidence success good fortune and loyalty it's a success yeah
it's success no fucking way okay another spoiler fast forwarder email I have a shock
class that I told you I wasn't gonna tell you what it's what it meant is success yes so there's a whole
thing in the in the musical about success it sucks it first but then it's like yeah sucks yes
sucks yes um that's really funny that's amazing as Biffits a king the king of ones often appears
seated on a throne wearing a handsome robe and a crown he's a dignified man who exudes confidence
authority and power yet he doesn't seem at all threatening that's interesting that is interesting
in fact he's usually shown as a handsome and benevolent ruler in a reading the king may
signify an actual person when he does it's generally a mature man who's obtained a position of wealth
and status perhaps the head of a business or a leader in the community oh interesting the upright
king is a fortunate card regardless of the situation if he represents a real person it's someone
you can trust and rely on to do the right thing he's a loyal friend a fair-minded employer a wise
advisor a competent and honest leader I feel like where this is going is like this is what beetle
juice was trying to yeah be when he was like doing the commercials like I can help you I'm like
dude you're great yeah this intelligent man has high ideals he's an active energetic
independent individual with a passion for life and an adventurous nature passion for life
is interesting too because he just like wants to marry her so that he can like come back whenever he
wants yeah is the point hmm in a reading about money you can expect good things to come
your way when the king appears sometimes the king means getting a raise that adventure will pay
off or that you have financial support if the reading is about your job success is assured success
success yeah the king may indicate a promotion or recognition for your efforts it can also show
you moving into a position of authority now is a good time to take a chance for victory is yours
I think this is like a card he wanted to fall like yeah this is like this is what really happened
to you guys yeah it's the total opposite of him yeah in a question about love the king of ones plays
or says the relationship is a strong one that's interesting it says the relationship is a strong one
with plenty of affection and passion do you remember the part where he like covers her mouth with
he like covers her mouth and does her voice for her that's interesting interesting perhaps
between two lively creative outgoing people there's one other extra excerpt here okay
bully card in the extreme the reverse king of ones can be the bully card as Mary K. Greer writes
in the complete book of tarot reversals you might oppose others simply as a display of one
upmanship oh my god that's beetle juice oh my god listen to this you can be aggressive and abuse
others like a bully or a common done with no humanity this is like perfect I was waiting I was like
there's gotta be something because I think this is the total opposite right but I think it's meant
to be that way because like this is the way he wants you to see him and this is the way
yes nick a little snake I like that ooh sneaky little sandwich yeah yeah well
fan worm well fan worm so he's got like kind of crazy pointy hair too I mean it's orange yeah it's
orange red like the beetle juice star but he's named after oh I did not even think about that
oh your shirt you have like a yellow and um right on your shirt too yeah and he's holding a stick
in the desert which could be like the sandworm yeah the land of the dead right nailed it okay I think
I nailed this one you guys nailed it he's a ghost in a sheet uh-huh I mean that's why I picked this
deck I don't think there's a card in it without a ghost one sheet so I really like had a really good
shot there yeah yeah the physical and emotional nature to which this card is attributed is dark
ardent why what does ardent and life mean lie yeah lie t_h_e ardent is a word that like I knew what
that meant a little bit better but lie that in that context didn't really make sense to me because
some um in some context it it's like can be mild or meek or like easily bend it can also mean like
thin so I'm like are we talking about like oh physically thin like kind of a metaphorical thin
meaning that you just are sort of like you bend to the will of others or but ardent is sort of a
it's intense feeling or like it's an impassioned plea yeah my heart is in love for you yeah because
the next word is so it's ardent live animated impassioned um and noble which obviously we the flip
side of that was the noble part but it's interesting it yeah it says dark and ardent and animated like
yeah yeah it's just so animated yeah wow that's interesting I'm glad you looked at that because all
of those are like really kind of yeah those are like super critical keywords for there's a couple more
to it says down below it says meanings dark man friendly countrymen which is that's interesting
we literally talked about his accent and generally married he's trying to be interesting oh it's also
connected to the symbol of the lion too which is that's kind of that's yeah
rar okay that's interesting but actually fit better than I
better than I thought when I pulled it even when I thought it was a sword yeah nice now that
totally fits I love that well did you guys notice anything else in the reading that we did not
know days about the battle juice beetle juice beetle juice beetle juice have a creepy ass day see you
next Tuesday unless we summon you faster than that we're gonna say all your names three times
we might be here a while then we're gonna be here a while either way yeah yeah true I won't have
the same word next time and I won't mention Taylor Swift I promise I make no such promise if she
brings it up it doesn't count yeah oh there's eyeballs in here cute you love those
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