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Text messages are fantastic for grief. They are fast. They are free, depending on your phone plan.

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And they are low pressure, both for the person sending and for the person receiving them.

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And when they are written with care, text messages can often mean more to the grieving person in your life

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than flowers or gift cards or casseroles. So today on the show, I'm going to share the single

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most important rule for texting someone who is grieving. 45 of my favorite text to send someone

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grieving organized by how much time has passed since their loss. How to adjust your message based

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on closeness, for instance, sending a text to a best friend looks a lot different than sending a

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text to a coworker. And then finally, I will share how to adapt these text messages for other

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types of losses.

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[Music]

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Hi there grief growers. I am so delighted to be here with you today as always.

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If you've been growing alongside me in my work for a while, welcome back. And if you are new to

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me and my work, hello. My name is Shelby for Scytheia. I am a grief coach, a three-time author,

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and the founder of Life After Loss Academy. I have had the distinct honor of helping thousands

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of grieving people stop feeling lost, stuck, heartbroken, and alone, and start building lives that they

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genuinely love from the lives that lost forced them to live. This includes, of course, not only death-related

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losses, but also losses like divorce and breakup, major diagnosis, and every other loss or transition

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that changes your life. Here on GriefGore, we believe that grief is not something we get over.

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It is something that we grow with and alongside, and that by treating grief less like a problem to

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be solved, and more like an invitation to live more deeply, we can create meaningful lives that are

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rich with the memories we carry, the struggles that we faced, and the precious awareness of what it

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is to be alive right here and right now. And today on the show, I am so excited to be bringing you

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45 text messages to send to someone grieving a loss. And I have sorted them by what to say immediately

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after the loss, months after the loss, years down the road, and on significant dates like grief

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anniversaries. Because you probably, like me, have had situations where your phone is in your hand,

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their name is in the two-field, send this message to insert their name. You know they have experienced

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some sort of loss, or this is a big day in their grief, and you have absolutely no idea what to

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type. Maybe you have come across this podcast because you just heard that your friend's parent died.

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Maybe your coworker spouse passed away suddenly, and the whole office just found out through a

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company-wide email. Maybe your cousin just posted about their miscarriage on social media,

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or maybe it has been months or even years since someone you care about lost a loved one,

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and you are wondering if it's too late or too weird or too much to reach out via text message now.

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So maybe you type something, and then delete it, and then type something else and delete that too.

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And then eventually if you're like a lot of people, you put the phone down and tell yourself you

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will figure out the right words to text them later. And if that experience sounds familiar to you,

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this podcast episode was literally created with you in mind. What to say to someone grieving over

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text is one of the most common questions that leads people who want to support grievers in their

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lives to my work, to my new book. Of course I'm here right now, three actually helpful things,

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to say to someone grieving. And it makes sense why text messages have become one of the main ways

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that we show up for each other. And recent estimates in the United States show that approximately 85

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percent of adults send or receive texts multiple times per week. Text messages are fantastic for

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grief. They are fast. They are free depending on your phone plan. And they are low pressure both for

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the person sending and for the person receiving them. And when they are written with care, text messages

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can often mean more to the grieving person in your life than flowers or gift cards or casseroles.

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So today on the show, I'm going to share the single most important rule for texting someone grieving.

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So if you listen to nothing else in this podcast, I'll have you take this away first.

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Next, number two, I will share 45 of my favorite text to send someone grieving organized by how much

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time has passed since their loss. Number three, how to adjust your message based on closeness. For

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instance, sending a text to a best friend looks a lot different than sending a text to a coworker.

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And then finally, I will share how to adapt these text messages for other types of losses. So

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things like divorce diagnosis, pet loss and other non-death related losses. So if you are ready to craft

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meaningful and comforting texts that actually support somebody that you care about, keep listening.

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Okay, first things first, I want to cover why a text message is enough even when it feels too small

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to address grief. This is a huge myth that comes up in grief support world and is often like the

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number one blocker that stops supporters for showing up for the gravers in their lives. And it is this.

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A text message is too small to meet the bigness of loss. A lot of people who genuinely care about

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offering comfort to their friends, family members, coworkers, they hesitate to send a text because

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it feels too casual or insignificant for something as life altering and as weighty as loss. Many

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supporters feel this like warped sort of unspoken pressure to make the bigness of their support gesture,

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mirror the bigness of their grievous grief. If you are thinking, shouldn't I call or shouldn't

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I send a card or shouldn't I send flowers or shouldn't I show up in person, you might consider

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if you are putting this pressure on yourself to make the gesture of your support as big as the

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effect of grief. And in a lot of ways, I can totally see where this hesitation to send a text

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comes from. I think for a lot of people, especially in older generations, it can feel weird to have

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conversations about loss, the thing that has changed this person's life. On the same communication

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platform where you might receive shipping updates for a package or confirmed dinner reservations

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or dentist appointment. But what I have learned from more than 10 years of working with gravers and

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from my own grief after my mom died in 2013 and my best friend died in 2022, the size of the gesture

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and the platform on which it happens matters far less than whether it actually happens.

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Over and over and over again, the grieving people that I work with reiterate the same sentiment.

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They say, I don't care where support shows up, just show up. Please remind me that I am not forgotten

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and that my loss isn't forgotten. When you see it through this perspective, the perspective of

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gravers, sending a text message is actually a really, really accessible platform for acknowledging

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loss and supporting somebody through grief. A text doesn't demand an immediate response,

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the same way a phone call or an in-person conversation does. It doesn't require your grieving friend to

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put on a brave face or find the energy for a face time or tidy up their house for guests. It

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lets them receive and respond to your support whenever they're ready. So this could be at 3 AM

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or in the hospital waiting room or in the parking lot before they go to work. I have written an

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entire book on what to say to somebody who's grieving. It's called, of course, I'm here right now.

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And I am always quick to say that there are no words or communication platforms that can offer your

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griever the equal and opposite reaction, Newton's Third Law of Motion-esque effect. You might be hoping

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to have with your language. What I do stay in the book and what I'll say again here is that words

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do not fix grief and they are not meant to. They are meant for meeting someone you care about inside

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of grief. Say, we are in this giant big awful thing together. And something as tiny as a text

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is a wonderful way of showing a griever that they are seen and remembered and valued even and especially

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in the midst of a loss that is overwhelming. Next, I want to get into the two golden rules of

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texting somebody who is grieving. Number one, name the person who died and two, state what's true.

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As a little aside, these are the same two rules I have for writing sympathy cards as well. It works

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just as well for digital as it does for print. So first, let's talk about naming the person who died.

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You must must must use the deceased person's name or the griever's relationship to them. For

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instance, your mom or Marcus or your grandfather. Grieving people often notice that the people around

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them start avoiding their dead person's name sometimes right away, right after the loss. As if

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saying their name out loud might emotionally break them. But in reality, when a grieving person

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hears their person's name from you or sees it written out over a text, it's usually a relief.

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It tells them that their person still exists, is still alive in others' minds, including yours.

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And this is also why for many grieving people, the impersonal phrase, sorry for your loss,

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doesn't feel like enough. And you can go back and listen to my episode of Griefgrower on why sorry

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for your loss isn't enough and what to say instead, back in the catalog of podcast episodes.

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Number two is to state what's true. State what you know. State what is obvious to you. Name

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something that you know for sure about the griever's relationship to the person who died. You do not have

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to be profound or transcendent or say what it all means. You just have to be really specific.

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So some things that you might know to be true about your grieving person's relationship to the

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person who died could include, "I know you two talked on the phone every single morning. I know he was

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the one who taught you how to fish. I know you were her caregiver for the last two years of her life.

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I know how excited you both were about the baby. I know he always hosted Passover at his house.

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I know you've been best friends since kindergarten." And if you don't know anything about your griever's

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relationship to their person, you can offer larger zoomed out truths about loss or grief in general.

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These are other things you might know to be true that aren't necessarily about the relationship.

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So for instance, you might say, "I don't know what your relationship was to your dad,

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but I know that anyone's death has an impact." Or, "I'm not certain how close you were to your sister,

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but I know that sibling loss is tough." Or, "I don't know how you felt about caregiving for them,

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but I know that losing the identity of caregiver can be hard." Or, "I didn't get the opportunity to

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meet your son, but I can imagine his loss is life-changing." Those are all great things that you could

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know to be true, even if you do not know the relationship to the person who died.

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Here's what the two golden roles of texting,

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"A grieving person look like in practice." When you put these two things together,

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your text message might read something like this. "I am so sorry to hear about your moms,

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put their name, put their relationship in their death. I know you visited her every weekend."

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That one personalized text message does so much more than a hundred generic, sorry, for your lost

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text messages. It says, "I see your person, I see your relationship, I know and recognize and can

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name what you lost. It is short and simple, it's two sentences, but it is extremely unique and

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profound. I have used these two golden roles in my work as a grief coach, but also in my work as a

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part-time florist. One morning I'll tell you a story, an elderly man came in to buy a bouquet for

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his neighbor whose husband had died the night before. After I made up his bouquet of flowers and

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rang him out at the register, he looked me in the eyes and said, "I don't know what to write on the

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card." So I responded, "What was your neighbor's name?" and he said, "Fill." And I said, "What do you know

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about Phil? Who was he or is he to you?" And this man said, "He has been my good friend and neighbor

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for 47 years. He and his wife have lived next to me and my wife for almost as long as we've been

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married. I'm really going to miss him." And I said, "That's perfect. All you have to write in the card

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is, Phil was a good friend and neighbor for 47 years. We will miss him, dearly."

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Two sentences, hugely profound impact. Name the person or their relationship. State what is true.

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Using these two golden rules, this gentleman who came into the flower shop wrote a brief and heartfelt

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card that Phil's wife could treasure long, long, long after her flowers died. It's so incredible. I

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so encourage you to like try this today. Try this right now. Name the relationship and then state

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what is true. If you're looking for even more text to send things that are very clear scripts you

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can use, let's get into the 45 texts to send someone grieving the death of a loved one. As with every

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resource and tool I offer, I encourage you to make these your own and experiment with language

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as you discover your own supporter lexicon. This is something I talk about too. And of course,

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I'm here right now as you practice being a supporter, as you practice being a comforter out in the

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world supporting friends, family members, coworkers, strangers who are grieving. You start to notice,

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you start to learn what words resonate most with you and what words seem to resonate most with the

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people in your life. Use those. Use those. Most of these scripts I'm going to share include the

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disease person's name or a truth about the loss. So I'm drawing on those two golden rules again.

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And then almost every single text in this list draws on my book. Of course, I'm here right now,

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three actually helpful things to say to someone grieving and here is why the phrase of course and any

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of its variations offer emotional validation. So saying things like what you're feeling makes sense,

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I see you, I hear you, I believe you, of course you would feel this way. The phrase I'm here and any

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of its variations, I have not forgotten that you're grieving. They offer presence and witnessing. So I

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see you, I'm not going anywhere. I haven't forgotten about you. I remember your person. I remember

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your loss. And then finally the phrase right now anchors this moment in time. In other words,

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this is how things are today and my support is not a one time offer. So if you check out the blog that's

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related to this episode and you can find it, it shall be for sathea.com. If you just type 45 texts

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into the search bar, you can find it. You will see an underlying everywhere I have used. Of course,

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I'm here or right now in these text message scripts. And I want you to notice how these small and

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helpful words. Of course, I'm here right now. Offer emotional validation. Of course, witnessing.

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I'm here and time anchoring right now. No matter the grievous relationship for the person who died

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or how long it's been since the loss. Our first group of text messages is what to text right after

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the loss. So the first few days, the first few days or like the first week after a death are often

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a flurry of phone calls, paperwork, decisions, shock, disbelief. Your texts in this time frame should

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be short, warm and require absolutely nothing in return. And I'm going to just read them out one by one.

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I am so sorry to hear about your mom's death. I know you visited her every weekend. Of course,

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this is devastating. I just heard about insert disease name here. I am so sorry. No need to respond.

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I'm here. Disease name was one of the funniest people I've ever met. It makes sense that your heart

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broken. I'm thinking of you right now. I don't have perfect words, but I have you on my mind.

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I'm here today and in the weeks to come. Of course, nothing feels real right now.

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Loss is surreal and weird. I know you took care of insert disease name for the last two years.

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Of course, you're exhausted in every possible way. I'll keep checking in on you.

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I am so sorry about disease name's death. I know how much you love your Sunday phone calls with him.

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I'm here if you want to talk about him or not talk at all. It makes sense that food might be hard

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for you right now. I just sent you a meal delivery gift card. No need to text back.

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Thinking of you and insert disease name right now. You don't owe me over apply. These are all

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wonderful options for the first few days after somebody dies. Let's next move on to what to text in

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the first few weeks after a death. So once the funeral or memorial services are generally over,

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many grieving people describe this strange quiet and upsetting drop off in communication and

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condolences. People who may have travel to be with them or take in time off work or school return to

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their day-to-day lives go back to normal. The phone stops buzzing with messages of initial shock or

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support and the reality that this loss is true. This happened starts to settle in and this is when

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ongoing and specific texts start to matter more. So you might say something like just checking in.

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I imagine the house feels so quiet right now. I'm here. Of course sleep is a struggle right now.

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Want me to stay on the phone with you tonight? We don't need to talk. We can just be together.

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I'm remembering disease name today. I'll text again on Thursday. No need to reply.

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The service for disease name was beautiful and I know the days and weeks after can be really lonely.

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I'll keep checking on you. I keep thinking about the story you told about disease name

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teaching you to drive stick shift in the school parking lot. I'd love to hear more stories whenever

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you want to share them. If the project of sending thank you notes is weighing on you right now,

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of course they can wait. No one is keeping score. And if you want I can help you write them or send

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them when you're ready. Of course you're angry. I know grief isn't only sadness. I can handle whatever

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you're feeling right now and your emotions make sense to me. I'm running to the store tomorrow.

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Send me a list of what you need for your house pantry or fridge right now and I'll leave everything

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at your door. I'm also happy to go another day this week if that works better for you.

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So these are all acknowledgments of feelings and emotions paired with some tangible actions

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and the promise the commitment to keep checking in. Let's move next to what to text a few months later.

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And this is when other support generally stops. This is often the time when many many many

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griebers tell me everybody else has moved on. The meal train has officially ended. Co-workers have

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stopped asking how are you and everyone else seems to expect grieving people to be back to normal.

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Meanwhile the initial shock of loss has usually worn off and the weight of the loss or the absence

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of the person who died feels louder than ever. The administration of the loss is over and now the

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living with it is what is coming front and center. A text message a few months later at this point in

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time can be one of the most meaningful you will ever send because so few people send one and I

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encourage you to be the person who sends one. Here we go. I know it's been three months since

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deceased name died. I haven't forgotten. I'm here. Of course this still hurts and you're still grieving.

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Three months is no time at all. This is exactly as hard as you think it is.

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I saw a cardinal at the bird feeder today and it reminded me of deceased name. Thinking of you right

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now. I can imagine a lot of people have stopped asking about deceased name. I still want to hear about her

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or I can share one of my stories about her with you if you want. Coffee on Saturday? We can talk about

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deceased name or just catch up on life. Your call. I'll be there from eight to ten with the newspaper

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at our usual table. No pressure to come or to stay for the whole time. Right now might feel

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heavier than the first few weeks did. Of course it does. The fog is lifting and the missing is louder.

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You don't have to be back to normal at work. Of course you're still grieving deceased name.

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I'm in your corner. I've set a reminder to check in on you every Sunday night for a while.

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No pressure to reply to my check-ins. I just want you to know that I care and I haven't forgotten

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that deceased name's death is still an important part of your day to day. I made deceased names famous

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banana bread today. It wasn't as good as his but it was edible. I'm thinking of you both.

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These are all lovely things to send. Something just about every griever would be appreciative for

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in the months after a loss especially when that support stops coming.

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Next I'll share some messages to send around the one year mark of a loss. The first year after a

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death is usually full of a lot of firsts, first birthdays, first holidays, first anniversary of the

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death itself. And then because of something I refer to as the hidden grief clock in my book of course

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I'm here right now, many grievers feel enormous pressure to be better once that first year after a

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loss ends. So any text message from you can gently release them from that expectation to abide by

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the hidden grief clock. Here's some examples. A year ago today we lost deceased name. I can imagine

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today is hard. I am here all day whenever you need me. I know the year of firsts is almost over.

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Of course the second year can be hard too. I'm still here. It's been a year and I still think of

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deceased name every time I hear Fleetwood Mac. I remember him fondly and I'm sending you care

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in this moment. Some people might tell you passing the year mark means you should be done grieving.

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Of course you're not. Grief doesn't follow a calendar. I'm lighting a candle for a deceased name

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tonight at 8 p.m. Join me from wherever you are if you want. Even if you can't I'll send you a

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picture of the candle I lit for her. Right now a year might feel like forever and yesterday at the

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same time. Both of those things can be true. You made it through a year you never wanted to live.

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I bet the pressure exists to be okay now but know that when we're together you don't have to have

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anything figured out. I'll be here for year two. Lastly for our text message scripts I want to get

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to what to text years and even decades down the road because at this time most grieving people

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generally learn to carry their grief alongside their everyday life but that does not mean that the

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pain of grief is gone or that they have stopped wanting their deceased person remembered. A text from

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you years or even decades later can feel like finding an unexpected grief gift in their pocket.

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So you might say it's been five years and I still miss deceased names laugh I bet you do too.

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Right now I'm remembering the time when and then share memory. You might say of course you still

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miss him and wish he was here. I was thinking about deceased name today and wanted you to know he

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hasn't been forgotten. I know your daughter graduates this spring. Of course deceased name would have been

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so proud I'm thinking of you both right now. Grief can sneak up years later if this week feels

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heavier than usual of course it does I'm here for you. Right now I bet there aren't a lot of people

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who still talk about deceased name with you. Tell me a story about them that I haven't heard yet

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and then as a little bonus I want to get to what to text on grief anniversary's birthdays and other

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sort of bright blinking neon spots on the calendar. Hard days. Because in grief there are some days of

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the year that hit harder no matter how much time has passed. Again these could include death

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anniversary's birthdays, wedding anniversaries, holidays, milestones the person who died should have

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been there for. So if you know one of these days is coming put it in your calendar now and if you

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want if you have this ability in your phone you can even schedule text messages to send on those days.

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And if you are looking for a resource for texting somebody during the holiday season specifically

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there is a blog at Shelby for Scythea.com called 12 simple texts that actually help someone

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grieving around the holidays and if you go to Shelby for Scythea.com and search for 12 simple texts

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you can find that one too. Here's your examples. I'm thinking of deceased name on his 13th birthday

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remembering how he always sang off key at every party and thinking of you. Of course Mother's Day is

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hard no matter how many years it's been. I'm here for you no reply needed. I know today would have

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been your 20th anniversary with deceased name. I'm holding you both in my heart right now.

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Starting a new job without deceased name here to celebrate must feel so bittersweet. Of course both

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joy and sadness describe your emotions in this season. I can see how your cousin's wedding this weekend

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might stir up a lot of grief. Want me to be your get me out of here text?

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Today's the day deceased name died and it makes sense should be on your mind even more than usual.

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I'm here and I haven't forgotten. Before we go today I want to talk about two because a lot of

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these are intimate or personal or picking up groceries and dropping them off or sharing specific

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memories of a person who died. There are different ways you can adjust your text messages based

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on your closeness or relationship to the grieving person that you're supporting. You do not need a

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totally different script for every relationship in your life. Essentially the two golden rules that

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we talked about earlier stay the same. So first name the person who died and two say what's true.

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And then offer at least one of my three phrases. Of course I'm here or right now and you have got

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the makings of a really really great grief support text. What changes is how much you know about

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their loss specifically and how close you are to them. So for closer or longer or more loving

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relationships you might consider including more details or making more intimate offers of support.

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These are instances of I can drop groceries by your house or I'll meet at our favorite coffee shop

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I'll be at our usual table or things like I have personal stories or personal relationship

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myself with the person who died. I have my own photos my own memories to share. And then for more

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professional or more distance or acquainted style relationships you can keep your texts simple

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by acknowledging the loss and then offering your presence in the way that feels most appropriate

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to your relationship. So here is how one message about the death of a father might shift based

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on your closeness to the person who is grieving. So if they are a best friend or a family member you

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might type something like "I am so sorry about your dad's death" I know he never missed a single one

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of your soccer games growing up and that you took such good care of him in his last few months.

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Of course this is heartbreaking. I'm coming by your house Friday with dinner. No need to answer the

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door if you want. I can just leave it on the porch. If this person is a coworker to you you might

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write "I was so sorry to hear about your dad's death. I loved hearing you talk about his woodworking

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projects at work. He sounded like such a crafty guy. No need to reply. I'm thinking of you and I'm

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happy to swap a shift if you ever need to take a grief day from work." If this is acquaintance or a

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neighbor you might write something like "I just heard about your dad's death and I'm so sorry.

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I'm not sure what your relationship was to him but I know that all losses have an impact of some

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sort. I'll be thinking of you." And then if this is a client or professional contact you might

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say "I'm so sorry to learn about your father's death. I can imagine there's a lot on your plate

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right now. I am here whenever you're ready to pick things back up." And that's enough.

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If you ever think that or believe that you are not close enough to a griver to warrant a support

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text, I encourage you. Please think again. Just about every grieving person I have ever worked with

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or whose story I've read mentions how surprised they were by who genuine support ended up coming

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from in their lives. In other words, you do not have to be a close childhood friend, a beloved family

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member or even an emergency contact in someone's phone to be someone who offers meaningful comfort

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and support after a loss. And if you are ever unsure about sending the text in the first place,

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you can always close your message with the sentence. I know our relationship up to this point has been

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waving to each other across the street or waiting tables together or doing physical therapy on

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your knee like a professional relationship, a neighbor, a coworker. But I want you to know I care

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about you and this loss. No need to respond. That is a really grounded way to frame like our

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relationship up to this point has not really included grief. We have it really hard to hearted. We

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haven't been those people to each other. But ending a text that way says, "I care about you. Your

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loss means something to me. I will not forget that you are grieving." And then the no need to respond

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takes the pressure off of them needing to reciprocate in some way. You offer care without the need of

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reciprocation. Finally, before we go today, I want to cover how to text someone after a divorce or

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a diagnosis or another type of non-death loss. Because as we talk about all the time on grief grower,

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death is not the only loss that deserves a support text. There are divorces, there are breakups,

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there are life changing diagnoses, there is pet loss, there is job loss, there is a

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strangement. All of these things can knock the ground out from under somebody that you care about

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and all of these things deserve support and care. In these cases, the same framework applies,

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name the loss, say what's true, and then lean on my three phrases, of course I'm here and right now

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to craft your message. So here are some examples. I just heard about you in Sam breaking up. I'm so

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sorry. Of course this is hard, even if it was the right decision for you both. I'm here.

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I know you've been waiting on those test results for weeks. Of course this diagnosis changes

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everything. I'm here for you in this moment and I'm not going anywhere. I'm so sorry about

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Biscuits death. I know he slept at the foot of your bed for 12 years. I'll keep checking on you.

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Of course losing your job feels like losing part of yourself. I'm here if you want event, plan,

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or just watch bad TV together. The thing I always reiterate in my work is that grief is grief,

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whether or not somebody died and losses can be significant without a death, and each of these

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losses and so many more in the non-death variety deserve to be met with words and support that literally

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be a text message. Say so. So what I want to send you off with today is the encouragement, the

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hutzpah, the initiative to send a grief support text and then send another one. Because now you have

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a list of dozens of messages to text to a friend, a family member, a neighbor, a coworker, a client,

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a acquaintance, anyone in your life who is grieving a loss. Whether they are facing the death of a loved

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one or another sort of life altering loss, I sincerely hope that these scripts for text messages act

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as starting points for meaningful conversations about grief with somebody in your life that you care

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about. What I want to remind you of is that you do not need to write a big long paragraph. You do not

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need to have lived through the same type of loss or even have professional qualifications. You

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do not have to be therapist and you definitely do not need to make their pain go away. You just need

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to name the loss, say what is true, and let your grieving person know of course your feelings make

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sense. I am here for you and right now is allowed to be exactly as hard as it is. So take a breath

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and send a support text as soon as this podcast ends. And then tomorrow or next week or next month

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send another one because the most powerful thing you can say to someone grieving is not a single

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perfect text message. It is saying something again and again showing up with your small yet mighty words

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long after everyone else in their life has gone quiet. And if you want even more tips and tools

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for supporting somebody in your life who's grieving, including a crap load of scripts and words,

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please, please, please check out my book. Of course, I'm here right now. Three actually helpful things

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to say to someone grieving. It is a short less than 250 pages. Practical guide for supporting somebody

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through any kind of loss, no matter how long it's been or the type of loss that they are facing.

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And it argues that words are our best, most powerful grief support tool. They are free. They are

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portable. They are available on every platform and medium and they are available whether you are in

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person or long distance. You can find of course I'm here right now in hardback ebook and audio

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book so you can learn and absorb this information about how to be a supporter of grievers in the way

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that works best for you. I am so grateful you join me today. If you are not driving or operating

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heavy machinery, grab that phone, send a text right now. I have faith in you.

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That's all for this episode of Grief Grower. If you're looking for grief support beyond this show,

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you can find free workshops, blog articles and my new book. Of course I'm here right now. Three

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actually helpful things to say to someone grieving at shallbeforsithia.com/links. And if you'd like to

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get support from me for your unique loss, you can join me at any time inside life after loss

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academy, which is my online course and community. As a student, I will walk you through my five step

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Grief Grower is hosted by me, Shelby Forsithia, with theme music composed by Addy Goldstein.

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Until next time, Grief Grower's, I see you. I am so proud of you and the work that you're doing

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in the world. And I love you. Because even through Grief, we are growing.

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