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Hello and welcome to the podcast today.

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We are talking about the Learner-centered paradigm and a significance in modern education.

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So with Learner-centered paradigm, it's a big shift from the way things have been going

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in traditional classrooms for a quite a long time now.

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Learner-centered paradigm is focused on the students rather than the teacher.

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So it's a move away from the traditional model of a classroom where the teacher is the

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focus of the classroom and the teacher speaks, the teacher teaches while the students

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listen and the students are supposed to absorb everything, take notes and learn as the

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teacher teaches.

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This is a big shift away from that.

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So with the Learner-centered paradigm, the learners have autonomy.

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The students are able to make choices and decisions on their own.

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There's more exploration.

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They can take ownership of their education and hopefully become lifelong learners.

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There's active engagement.

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So rather than the teacher standing up front talking and lecturing and just spewing information

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to students who are supposed to be listening and taking it all in, there's more student

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discussion.

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We're seeing that there's some good results from that.

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The students are able to do some problem solving on their own.

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It promotes critical thinking and it's actually increasing retention and the research on it

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is really good.

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There's been some different studies and some research and we'll talk about those a little

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bit in a few minutes.

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There's also a personalization for the students.

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It can take care of individual student needs and meet those needs and take into account

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the different backgrounds that students have and the learning paces.

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It's really good for differentiated learning because rather than a one-size-fits-all type

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of learning, it can meet students where they are.

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One thing that's really neat about it is how it's inquiry-based learning for students.

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They get to explore and feed their natural curiosity but they're not just left to their

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own device, they're still guided by a capable train teacher.

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You've heard anything about the learner-centered paradigm.

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You may have heard that instead of sage on the stage, it's a guide by your side.

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The teacher is there still to teach you but more as a guide as you learn a little bit

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more on your own, you're a little more self-guided than you would be in a traditional classroom.

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As I said, research is showing that it does improve academic success, Stanford, how to

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report out that they did some research and the school of education there talked about

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how effective it can be at retention for students.

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Right now in a traditional classroom, if you're in your average public classroom in United

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States, they are still mostly teacher-centered and there's been a little bit of a shift

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toward learner-centered but it's a slow shift.

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It takes a while for the pendulum to swing that way.

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There's a teacher given projects and assignments and there is some time to complete them on

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their own but there's a timeline for finishing them and they're given time to work on projects

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but not much autonomy.

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We do see students working in groups often but it's still basically doing what the teacher

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has taught you to do, what the teacher is asking you to do and there's not much student

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choice and not much student agency.

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So a typical day in an elementary school classroom, the bell rings and students come in, they

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unpack everything, they might turn in some homework in the morning, make their lunch choice,

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teacher takes attendance and then students usually get started on some form of morning

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work for younger students that might be some focus play time, they might have some morning

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bins for older students in the elementary classroom that could be some daily activities,

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there might be some daily math problems or a daily journal, maybe some independent work,

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maybe some ELA and a lot of times if they're able to finish that morning work on their

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own and there's still some time left while the teacher is getting everything together

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in the morning as far as attendance and lunches and getting everything in order then there

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might be time for them to work on some unfinished work or maybe read a book and then after that

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a lot of classes will move on to maybe some math in the upper grades like fourth, fifth and

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sixth grade levels might switch classes within the grade level to more appropriately teach

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students at their own level for math and sometimes for other subjects as well but usually

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just switching between classes within the same grade level and then they'll come back to

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their own class after that and most likely have recess after recess they might do language

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arts or social studies something like that before lunchtime and there's usually some group

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work in there somewhere and again if you finish then you're working on unfinished work or

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reading a book or sometimes drawing depending on which grade it is and then it's lunchtime

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so go eat your lunch go play on the playground for a little bit and then you come back in

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from lunch and just a little bit of time left maybe an hour, hour and a half and a lot of

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times in the afternoon teachers will plan science or history maybe some art and then generally

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get ready to go home and maybe after school they might have to have some extra curricular

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activities and then there's probably some pullouts during the week or some time out of the classroom

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maybe for library or PE music band thrown into the schedule one or two times a week so they're

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occasionally interrupted with things like that maybe once or twice a year there's a field trip but

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the basic skeleton looks about the same it just varies a little bit by grade level but most

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of the time when you walk into a classroom the desks will face where the teacher is sitting or

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standing and there's usually either a whiteboard or a TV screen or something where the teacher can

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project what they're working on but they typically look about the same you know there's some variation

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in the different classrooms and depending what part of the country you're in and how advanced

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your school district is there might be different technologies in different classrooms and

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the upper grades tend to work on their own a little bit more than the younger grades but

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basically most of the students in the class are doing the same thing give or take a little bit here

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and there for some differentiation but not much autonomy so what would it look like if we were to

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give students some more options maybe some choice boards so they could pick which way they learn

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different subjects what if we let them discover how they learn because people do learn differently

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I tend to be more visual I need to see how things are done some students need to have hands-on

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experiences before they can learn something so what if we were to do that let them discover how they

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learn less time doing the traditional work that you would think of for a classroom in the United

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States and and actually around most of the world too but what if there was less time more doing

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that work and more time discovering as I said how they learn what they like to do to help them learn

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more time to be creative a lot of times there's a little bit of time to be creative but even that

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can be very structured and very focused I study a little bit some about some different ways education

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takes place around the world and there are a few countries and they tend to be at the top of

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top of the list for performance that spend more time outside of the classroom more time to let

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the kids discover what they like to do more time to be kids and be curious and do some hands-on learning

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and some exploring or even inside the classroom having more hands-on experiences with

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writing and helping others let them discover what their talents are and what they have

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affinities for the Stanford I mentioned the Stanford Graduate School of Education and I was recently

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looking at their website and there's a quote here from from that website article I was reading

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schools that incorporate these key features of student center practice are more likely to develop

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students that have transferable academic skills they feel a sense of purpose and connection to school

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as well as graduate attend and persist in college at rates that exceed their district and state

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averages and that's definitely positive we want kids to succeed and feel a sense of purpose

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and connection to school and definitely want them to graduate and attend college and persist

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in college and these are very good things I think we've seen in the last few years that some

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workplaces have started to focus more on their culture still doing their jobs but

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focus on the workplace culture and the results have been amazing there are some companies that

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allow their employees I think it was Google that I was reading about that allows their employees

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20% of their time at work to be focused on something for that they're interested in

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personally as long as it somehow relates to the company and there have been some amazing

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innovations with that there's an article on leadership IQ that says these companies embrace

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innovation inclusivity and employee empowerment they create environments where employees feel inspired

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and valued by fostering open communication and shared values they maintain positive workplace

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cultures and that sounds great and so if we can take that same design and apply it to the classroom

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and of course you still need someone in charge and in these workplaces you know such as google or

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Yahoo I think also Zappos the I think Zappos is a shoe company same design same idea there's still

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people in charge there's still a hierarchy for their employees but there's more autonomy and more

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freedom for people to just feel as though they are part of that work environment that their voice is

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heard so along those lines what if we were to give students more flexible assignments some choice

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boards different ways to prove competency instead of just here's the information and this is how

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you're going to prove that you understand it and this is how you're going to prove that you remember

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it and then we grade you on it and that's it if we can give students some flexibility then they can

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feel more autonomy and feel more as though they have a hand in their education

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if we could give flexible if we could make classroom environments more flexible like some of

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these workplaces are I was looking at some pictures of these different companies office buildings

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online and there's different seating it's not just a floor is full of cubicles with

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computers and you know desk chairs they're letting people sit in couches or at bigger tables with other

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people or I even saw in them I think it was the Google website that they had some hammock chairs I

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think Google is the one that is such a colorful very inviting workspace looks like a really fun

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place to work and there's a real sense of community there so if we could transfer those ideas to the

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classroom be really interesting to see how kids would be affected by that couple

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years ago I've been a sub for quite a few years now and a couple years ago I walked into a first first

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grade yeah first grade class and I was a little bit surprised when I walked in because it wasn't your

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typical desks all in a line and facing the front and everybody had their friends pencil box on the

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on the desks there were no desks actually there were several different tables around the room different

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heights tables you could stand at tables you could sit at tables low to the ground so kids could

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sit on the floor and then there were also different chairs all over the room there were bean bags and

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the scoop chairs for kids there were pillows to sit on on the ground and at first I thought oh this

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doesn't look very organized I wonder how this is going to go it looks like these first graders have

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a little too much freedom in here and the as I said the first time I walked in there was a little bit

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surprised and concerned but as I got to know the teacher and the culture that she created in the class

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and as weeks went on and the the students understood her expectations and we're given some autonomy

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and some freedom and flexibility it was pretty amazing to see the transformation in the kids and

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they were just in first grade and I think at first I was worried oh man I wonder what the teacher who

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gets them in second grade is going to think you know these kids are used to being able to wander the

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classroom and they're not going to know how to sit down and she proved me wrong she had complete

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control of that classroom but in a way that the kids loved and in a way that the kids really

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responded to and and the teacher who got them in second grade was very impressed it went very well

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and I think that was one of my first experiences at a more not just flexible seating but a more

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learner-centered classroom and and it worked really well so shout out to Miss Melika Tone where

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we are teaching now I wish you still were with us here in in Brea I would love to

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try that in in my classroom once I have a classroom I'm so many classrooms I walk into and I

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spend a lot of time even though I'm a teacher substitute I spend a lot of time as a pair of

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professional substitute as well and you're trying to walk around the classroom and it's so crowded

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with furniture and desks you can't even move around and it just feels a bit stuffy the desks are

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facing the teacher or the board what if instead of that we if you're going to have desks maybe

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make the desks face the center of the classroom maybe there's way you could I know it's hard to do

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when you have so many kids in a classroom but somewhere where they'd be able to communicate with

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each other more I do appreciate some of the teachers I've been in with recently

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have the kids talk to each other quite a bit she said she'll give them something to think about

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something to talk about and say okay turned your elbow partner and discuss it and then after a

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couple minutes she'll bring the class back together and have some reports from around the room

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about what they talked about and what their conclusions were so I was thinking about how to some

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different ways to implement this well this is the you know as we're talking right now just about the

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flexible actual organization of the classroom you know flexible seating so I thought maybe instead

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of having everything in place the first day just have everything pushed to the sides of the classroom

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and talk to the kids about how they want to set it up and talk to them about how can we make the most

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of our space in the classroom how should we set up our classroom or you could have you could start

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out with a basic setup and then as you establish some rules and expectations because you are still

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the teacher in charge and you do still want to establish that hierarchy for a better word you

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want to make sure that the kids understand that you are still in charge of the classroom and you

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have some expectations but let them feel some freedom I watched a video from edutopia that had

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a lot of different seating in the classroom and one of the things that I thought was so neat was

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they had taken one of those bunk beds where it's a twin size bed on the top and then

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underneath it's like a loft bed where underneath there's room for a desk or a small couch or something

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like that and they had that in the classroom and it made a real neat reading area so I don't know if I

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could get away with that in my classroom I'd have to talk to the principal obviously but that would

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be I feel like that would be really fun for the kids I remember a couple years ago

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we had a snoopy doghouse built for a play at the school and it wasn't needed after the play and

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one of the teachers loved snoopy and had a lot of snoopy things in her classroom and so

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and it was good-sized and so she took it into her classroom and made it a reading area for the kids

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she was a first grade teacher and just something different like that the kids just loved it and it

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was I think she used it more as a reward but you know something where you get kids excited about being

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in the classroom and and things that they look forward to another thing that's great about

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the learner-centered paradigm is the psychological safety the social emotional learning that

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takes place we're still focusing on that there's a big push for that right now and

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making the kids feel safe some different ways to do that is just to model the positive behavior

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really an atmosphere of encouragement and there's something we used to actually do at my church

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years ago that I've thought about translating to the classroom and they just had postcards available

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just blank postcards available and you could grab a postcard and write a note to somebody and

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stick it in the the I don't know offering bag or or box or whatever it was in it the church would

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mail them out for you and I thought about doing that in the classroom and we could have

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kids write encouragement cards to each other to their parents their families to kids in other classrooms

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and then I would just collect them and and get them to where they needed to be and just get kids used

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to being a positive force in each other's lives and and being encouraging to each other so

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that sense of psychological safety I think the encouragement and the positive behavior being

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modeled to them really contributes to that another thing I would want to make sure of is and I think

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the learner centered paradigm would be a good way to do this is to instill some responsibility in them

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but not just responsibility where it feels like a chore

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but responsibility where there's also care and cooperation as part of it that they learn to

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help each other and so not only I'm responsible for my area and my things and I'm not responsible

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for yours and not quite that but responsible for themselves but also responsible to take care of

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each other and help each other so if somebody's struggling to clean up their area maybe you could

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step in and help them um I'd also like to along with the responsibility teach them about

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conservation and I don't like to go too crazy with that um but I think the idea of trying to

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conserve supplies and you know even just to have a recycling can a trash can in our classroom where

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we made sure that we were recycling any bottles and cans and keeping our classroom clean taking care

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of our own things and then just trying to be good stewards of what we have I think another aspect of

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the change that I would like to see is community and accountability um I think it would be great

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you know a lot of times we have our classroom rules already printed and on the wall and we just

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read them to the kids we go over them and talk about them but I saw on one of the websites I was

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looking at I think it might have been edutopia that they created a classroom contract together

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so they came up with the the class rules and the classroom contract and then the teacher put

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what they decided on on like a big piece of poster board excuse me and they all signed it

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and so that shows them some responsibility too it's more like a contract that they're signing that

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this is what we've agreed to and it's not just some rules that are being imposed on them but some

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different routines and and things that they've come up with um and also establishing some routines

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for discussions that we respect each other and um I think I've seen a teacher use a talking piece

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where if you are holding the talking piece then you're the one that's allowed to be talking so

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just that general sense of accountability and community and um care for each other um I think that

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this really does align with uh the learner centered paradigm because the focus would be on the students

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and their participation in their own education um I don't want the kids just sitting in hard chairs

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for hours I would want them participating and moving around and uh just a different environment

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that they're part of their own education instead of just sitting and listening to me talk is if I

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have all the knowledge and they don't have anything to contribute that's that's not what I want my

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classroom to be like I want them to feel a sense of agency as they're uh learning in the classroom um

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when it comes to their education I want to help them create an appreciation and an ownership for their

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education and to really see the relevance of what they learn I just have to laugh when I

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trying to help my own kids with their math because some of it is just I have older kids now and some of

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it is just not relevant I mean I don't think you need to take statistics unless you're gonna use it in

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your uh profession and you know I I think that if kids are learning and they're seeing the relevance

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of what they're learning I think that goes a long way to motivate them so um I think that

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moving toward this learner-centered paradigm um helping kids to take ownership of their education

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and be responsible for what they're learning and instead of just howling them to get their work done

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having them help choose what they're learning so that they can really enjoy it and

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um just feel like they're doing something that they want to be doing I don't want kids to

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dread coming to school so definitely one of my goals is for my classroom to be inviting for students

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I want it to feel like a place they want to be um kind of like their home away from home um honestly

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I would love for kids who aren't in my class to walk by and wish they were um I would want kids to be

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excited about hey maybe next year I get to be in Mrs Wagner's class and um just have it be a really

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good experience and and of course ideally mine wouldn't be the only classroom like that but um

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I want it to be an inviting place where students are joyful in learning and uh feel like they have a

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part in their education and it's not just something that's being imposed on them and they're doing

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assignments that they don't really understand the purpose of so um I would just love to instill a

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joy for lifelong learning in my students um I do realize it's probably not going to be the easiest thing

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to um make a reality I think one of the first steps would be to meet with the principal and the

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grade level team to explain and share my vision and uh you know hopefully they would be open to that

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and who knows maybe the other teachers would be willing to try it as well and um if not if I was the

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only one that was going to be changing to this more of this model and I think it does need to be a um

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a transition not just overnight I think uh we might need to

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spend a year or two to make the shift um a year maybe a couple of years span to give everybody a chance

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to buy in and and also to not overwhelm myself but um let's see I was saying if uh if not if the other

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grade level teachers don't want to um kind of follow the same design for their classroom then

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I definitely would want to make sure I discuss how it will impact their classrooms um especially

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and their teaching styles especially if we are switching for any of the subjects like maps I know

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quite often and especially in uh fourth, fifth and sixth grade the teachers of the same grade level

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will get together and and um figure out the different levels for the students and um

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do some rotations for the different math levels so I would want to make sure that

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it's not a difficult impact on their classrooms um I don't want to be a rebel and just do my own

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thing so I want to make sure that this plan would work with our school culture so I know I would

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definitely need to discuss it with the principal and at least the other grade level team um

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and then if there's buy-in for that I know I would need to um create a list of

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classroom supplies and needs because if I'm gonna have flexible seating um ideally I would

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prefer some I'd really like to have a lot of open space in the middle of the classroom and

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some different uh maybe pillows to sit on on the floor or I just want kids to feel like they're

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comfortable instead of just sitting at a desk all day not too comfortable because you still have to

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learn but um just some different seating options and so maybe some different heights of tables and

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maybe some uh like the the lap desks and um the there's these I don't even know what to call them it's

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like uh almost like a tray that the kids can use while they're sitting on the floor um so I know that

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there would be a financial need um and and the having a shift over a couple years might help that as

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well where you're not buying all the furniture one year um so yeah as far as resources

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well first of all the first resource would be permission from the principal and buy in from

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um the other grade level teachers and then definitely some finances for the

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non-traditional furniture and supplies um the first couple years might cost the most but

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you know if you could stretch that out or um over a couple years or who know get donations

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do you a go fund me something to help cover those costs um

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I think the stakeholders that I would have to involve would be obviously the principal

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and possibly somebody from the district but I know at least in in our district the

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principles are given some freedom as far as as something like this would go but the the

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principal and the other grade level teachers and families would be um who I would need to

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involve because the families at least in our district are fairly willing to help if you have

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an idea like this and if they if they have some buy in then they're pretty good at stepping in to help

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it was really fun seeing some of the examples um that I found online of the different

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classrooms that have already tried this I didn't realize that we have so many schools around

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the country that are already participating in this so that was really neat to see some of those

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examples and if you just google uh non-traditional classroom or learner centered paradigm examples then

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you'll be able to see I think I have some links in in my references to you'll see some different examples

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I really want students to remember their time in my class as positive I want them to look back and

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and think of it as a good thing um when I look back on my education I think my first

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favorite most positive experience had to be third grade and my teacher's name was my half-worth

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she actually just passed away last year um it was just the best classroom um you know back in when

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I was in school I'm gonna date myself here in the early 80s out that makes me sound old um it was

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definitely not normal for a for an elementary school teacher to let you call her by her first name

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but that's what my did and I don't know she made us feel like family and it was just a such a great

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experience in her classroom she was so kind and loving and encouraging um and then I had some

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teachers like that in a handful of them um I remember one in junior high and and one in high school too

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that really did especially in high school I think my mouth teacher really did um let me kind of

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tailor the learning experience to what I needed and that was way back before anyone probably

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ever even heard the term differentiated instruction but math was my best subject and so

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mr. crisp would let me do the work on my own while he was teaching and then I would be done with my

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class work and homework before most of the other kids were even starting on their class work and he

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let me read a book or do homework for another class or hurry on dating myself again listen to my

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walkman but I appreciated that he trusted me and I can say I did not let him down I did the work

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I got good grades in that class and and I appreciate that about him so I I would love for students to

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look back on my class the way I remember my and mr. crisp and a handful of other teachers that they

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enjoyed learning felt heard felt ready to move on in their education after being in my class

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and to be able to hear from parents um positive feedback about maybe a change they saw in their

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child's outlook on school and learning and and also from administration to give positive feedback

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and to have administration be excited about moving forward with the the strategies that I've tried

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and I think the way to see if it is successful is well I was thinking about parent and student surveys first

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so that would probably be I don't know if that would seem if that would give me a good idea if it

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was successful but I would at least get a good idea of whether they liked it or not and then

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if I'm if the students are achieving the standards that would be probably the most important thing

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and if they're ready to move on to the next grade level um I think that's how I could measure that

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so I think you know after the first I would say even after the first six months or so I could

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see if it was working and and adjust wherever I needed to um there might be some

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opposition from people in the same school maybe from the districts um speculation

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maybe even from families because it's not the traditional method of teaching that they're used to

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and then it would be a bit of a financial burden the first couple years if the district didn't have

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a budget for me to do to get different furniture like that but um I can't see too many obstacles

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to trying this out um I'm excited about it I I really hope that I'll be able to try something like

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this and I think that even though there's been a slow shift um that this isn't what most people

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are used to in the United States um there has started to be a shift in um towards the Learner Center

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paradigm and I think we're headed in that direction and I think it'll really make an impact on

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the student's educational experience and improve their outlook and their performance and

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um I think if I can help people to catch the vision and uh just get some buy-in from people and

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have some people trust me that it it's a good idea I think that can help make it a reality and

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um especially if you know looking at some of the examples that I've seen from from other people so

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um I will put the um the links in my show notes for you and um I hope you've enjoyed listening to

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what a Learner-centered paradigm might look like in the classroom and I really hope I get to try

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this out so thank you for listening and we'll talk again soon.

