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Hello and welcome to Development Purgatory!

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This is the podcast all about the movies that were never made, the scripts that were never written,

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and the ideas that never have made it to the page. My name is Daniel Kawka.

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And I'm Lexcee Riley.

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We are going over another superhero. Super hero fatigue.

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We do a lot of superheroes here, but I think this one's a pretty good one.

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Isn't it crazy that we are in superhero fatigue yet there are so many superhero movies that

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didn't get made? Yeah, it's pretty incredible, but it is around that time where studios were trying

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to figure out superheroes and just kind of throwing everything at the wall, seeing what sticks,

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seeing what happens, and eventually the perfect superhero was made. We all know that that is blade

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two. I want to throw a wet paper towel here. I stopped listening after.

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And then you said blade two and I'm still going to make my joke.

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Yeah, we are going over another superhero. This one you may have heard of. He is from the DC

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universe. Have you ever heard of the superhero plastic man? Nope.

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Do you know anything about plastic man? Not a.

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What he looks like. In my head he's like Mr. Fantastic, but like.

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In a way, yes he is. Oh, so this is the flip.

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So you have no history with plastic man. There's a comic book store that's right next to us.

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This is kind of his head store because the bench outside of there, a place was stolen,

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but their bench was painted. To look like plastic man? Yeah, to look like plastic man.

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But it was a very funny joke because if you know plastic man's ability, he can kind of morph

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and make himself into a bench. Any shape and object that is necessary for whatever that moment calls for.

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That's fantastic. Yeah, Mr. It's plastic. It's fantastic to be plastic, which will come up later.

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The team up you never knew you needed. But as for me with plastic man, how I've known about him,

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he has appeared in a lot of different like DC movies, like animated movies. I've never seen him in a

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movie, although I guess I'm not a DC kid. Yeah, so DC, what they'll do is they make a lot of animated

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movies, like kind of direct to video or like direct to streaming. Yeah, ones and they did one recently.

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It was injustice that came out in 2021. The video game. Kind of based on that. Yeah. So they

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kind of go hand in hand with each other, but that is the name of the video game. Yes it is. And plastic man

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is just part of the Justice League. How will you punish people when they break whatever rules Superman

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comes up with? I mean, I was a criminal. I needed second, third and fourth chances before turning my life

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around. So what's the deal there? If you watch any of the Batman Brave in the Bold series, he

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makes appearances here and there. When you said Justice League, it just made me think of a new Superman.

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And like how he's sort of picking deeper cuts of comics to, I mean, I guess time for it's the

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Justice gang now. But like, I mean, maybe we'll find out in this episode, but I'm like, it feels like

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there's a good segue for Mr. Benchman. And in fact, like you mentioning that is literally the last paragraph

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of my notes. So we're going to tie it all together. We're going to see how I didn't need to watch

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anything about it. I get it real quick. Yeah. James Gunn, I believe that he's going to do it. How he's

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going to do it. But the way that it was approached, I mean, you'll see what it is. But we are going to go

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into plastic man kind of his history of how he came to be. But before we do so, we're going to go

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into the history of these advertisements. And welcome back. I was like, we're waiting for the ad

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and I was like, no, no, we make our own ads. All right. Let's get into plastic man. Cause I like

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doing this question. How old? Oh God. Do you think plastic man is? When do you think he's about

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he's a trap? I love it. I love this question. Always trap. Oh God. Kind of a hint. He came about around

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the same time that Batman and Superman and Wonder Woman. Of course. We're first published. I know that

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we've talked about when Superman and Batman came out and you would hope at this point because we've

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talked about it a few times. I would have locked it away, but I haven't. Or if it is as deep in there.

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So like late 60s? No. So plastic man. He first appeared. He first appeared in police comics in

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August 1941. Holy schnikes. Yeah. He old. He real old. He would have been fighting in World War 2.

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Captain America. Yeah. Older than Captain America.

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You know, there is a pocket of my brain somewhere that has all of these facts stored away. Because

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every time I'm like, that is brand new information. And I like it. But like, I wish I could dig it

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up at like a party to be like, did you know? So he appeared in police comics from issue number one.

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But this wasn't under DC Comics or what DC Comics was when you say police comics. Was there a superhero

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police team or so did we make comics for the police? So the run of comics was actually called police,

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police comics. It's kind of like whenever you have a superhero, the run of the superhero issues is

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always the name of that superhero or like, just a sleigh of America. It's always like J.O.A.

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or Justice League America or the Avengers. That's what that's dance. Yeah. So this is essentially what it is.

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It's police comics, but it was under the publisher quality comics. I feel like they didn't last long.

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You'll see. Now this character was one of many that was introduced. So they're basically like

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throwing everything at the wall, seeing what sticks. So on top of Plastic Ben, we also had Phantom Lady.

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We had the human bomb. We have firebrand and mouthpiece. No. Just hard no. Phantom Lady though.

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Right. I mean, I guess at least there's one lady and at least she's not the most ridiculous of the

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bunch. No, she isn't. So Plastic Man, he was created by Jack Cole. Cole in his earlier career,

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he worked for Harry A. Chessler Studio, which was part of Centaur Publications back in 1936.

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The company was simply providing artists to illustrate four stories. And essentially like

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whenever any published stories came their way, they brought an artist to draw out illustrations. Or if

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it was like a comic book, they would be the ones who were in charge of putting that all together.

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So for Cole's first assignment, he was actually asked to illustrate a few comics. One was Teen T Todd.

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TNT? TNT as in Dynamite. Bam man. Teen T Todd.

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And the FBI and little Dynamite bit of a theme here. So Bam man had a baby.

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Essentially. With Phantom Lady?

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In 1939, he joined Love Gleason's publications to be an artist and editor for Silver Street Comics.

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There he assisted Will Eisner in his comic The Spirit. Later in his career, he would be an artist

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for Playboy. He would draw comic strips in every issue from 1954 to 1958, which is when he died.

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So he worked up until death?

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Mm-hmm. He created the comic strip Betsey and me.

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Jack Cole was later inducted in the Jack Kirby Hall of Fame in 1991 and the Will Eisner award Hall of Fame

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in 1999. Cole, he created and illustrated various characters, but Plastic Man is his biggest hit.

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I mean, Bam man didn't go off well?

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I wish.

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There is a universe where Bam man was the thing.

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Or mouthpiece. I don't even want that.

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That's not the piece. Cole created and illustrated various characters, but Plastic Man was his biggest hit.

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He first appeared in the Run of Police Comics, but Plastic Man, he gained so much popularity that he

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actually took over as the main character by issue five.

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God, the forties were a wild time.

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And then he continued on until issue 102.

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Whoa, whoa.

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Yeah, so like 97 issues after that. He was like the main character.

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But Plastic Man, he actually got his own series starting in 1944 with a 64 issue run.

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Damn.

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Yeah, and then quality comics would continue until 1956 when quality was then acquired by DC Comics,

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which is why Plastic Man is a DC superhero.

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So he didn't start off at DC. He was bought by DC.

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He started with QC.

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Yes.

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So who is Plastic Man? What is his origin?

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And what is his powers?

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Now Plastic Man's alter ego is Patrick Eel O'Brien.

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You're going to be like his name is Schmiedschmitchers.

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Oh, wait. Okay.

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While we're on this joke though, Fantastic Four came out in the 60s, right?

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Correct.

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Schmiedschmitcher is a rip off of Plastic Man.

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Not a rip off, but you know what I'm saying?

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You know how they always have their like counterpart?

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Yeah, there's a few characters who like have stretchy arms.

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Tom Malacan. Yeah. So it is an a power that's like unusual.

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It's kind of like the power of invisibility.

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Right.

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I'm just like, who's the first stretchy man?

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The first stretchy man, I might say who it is,

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but I could be wrong because there might be someone who appeared like

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here or earlier. We'll find out.

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Wait. So does Plastic Man stretch or does Plastic Man just form into a shape?

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He stretches and forms.

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Similar to Gambit.

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He was orphaned at the age of 10, fell into a life of crime in the streets of Chicago,

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where he became a safe cracker for a burglary ring during a heist at the Crawford

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chemistry works.

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The Louvre.

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His team was caught and they fled.

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Unfortunately, Patrick got shot in the shoulder and a drum of unidentified acid spilled on him

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and seeped into his wound.

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What an origin story.

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Mm-hmm.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, you got to get the chemicals in him somehow.

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I mean, there's a combination of a lot of other things like you have the Joker,

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you have Daredevil's like kind of putting those two together.

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Daredevil gets shot and that's how he has...

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He gets acid in his eyes according to the band-afflake movie.

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As he is trying to escape, he sees his team drives off without him and they just leave him behind.

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Or a dude?

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He continues to flee on foot, but he eventually passes out in the foothills of a mountain

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just outside of the city.

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The next morning he wakes up to find that he's been tended to by a monk at a monastery.

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The monk has found him, helped him out, and he has a sense that there is much good in this man.

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When the police track down Patrick to the monastery, the monk has then turned them away.

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Through this act of kindness and the team members leaving him behind, Patrick turns his life around

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and he leaves this life of crime.

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While at the monastery, Patrick then discovers his new abilities.

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He could bend and stretch his body into any shape that he desired.

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He promises to use his new abilities to fight crime and evil, although this is after he went back to

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the criminals that he associated with and asked for his cut. He then donned.

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He then...

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By the way.

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By the way, before turning to a life away from crime, he just did a little crime before getting back up.

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I just need a little bit of cheddar to make it through my good life.

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He donned a red, black, and yellow rubber suit with wrap-around goggles to hide his identity.

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Which is strange if he can morph into any shape, you'd think he could just change his face.

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But now, I'm going to put goggles on to hide his identity.

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His outfit has pretty much stayed the same with various degrees of how much he shows his legs throughout the years.

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Yeah, so you get a little...

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Actually, let's look up some images of a plastic man.

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So you can see there's a plastic man with the short shorts.

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And sometimes it's just like a speedy...

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I need men to be dressing in this costume.

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Hell, low legs.

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He's kind of like some like 60s short shorts going on.

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Yeah, it's very like form-fitting depending on who the artist is.

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It'll be like long pants or like right up to the top.

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Fascinating. I have so many questions.

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None of them appropriate.

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A plastic man down the line would acquire a comic relief sidekick known as "Woozy Winks." His...

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Comic-Con?

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"Woozy Winks."

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A plastic man is so descriptive of what this character does.

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There's not enough money in the world for me to be able to be like,

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"This is what woozy Winks does."

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He's able to manipulate nature.

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Although that power was then tossed aside so that he would just become this bumbling loyal friend.

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And then throughout the run of quality comics he was part of the police force and the FBI.

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"Woozy Winks?"

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No, the plastic man.

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Officer Winks is kind of great.

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I'm sure "Woozy" was there in the background this entire time.

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But the concept of a shape-shifting and bending character is no foreign concept to comic books.

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There was "Flexo, the rubberman, and the thin man" both created before plastic comics.

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Here we go. They answered my question.

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Yeah, they were both created before "Plexic Man" in mystic comics.

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And when later be attained by Marvel.

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But the most famous stretchy man that's out there is obviously, we talked about it before.

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"Mr. Fantastic, who was created in 1961, 20 years later, after plastic man?"

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When DC Comics obtained quality comics in 1956, they stopped making issues of plastic man,

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despite it being the face of the publication.

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Instead they continued with Black Hawk, Robin Hood, Heart Throbs, and GI combat.

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Heart Throbs.

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Heart Throbs.

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Any knowledge of his existence was just put to the wayside.

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He could have made appearance in the Flash issue 112, which was published in May 1961.

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But instead they got Ralph Dibney as the elongated man who had pretty much the same powers

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plastic man existed, he probably would have used him instead.

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How did you not know he existed if he was so popular?

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I mean, it's not like he's just Google it or anything like that.

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Like you have hundreds of characters that you're trying to do.

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Yeah, but I'm like, I guess if your company just took over,

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I'm thinking about business and marketing of what we have to do.

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Right, there wouldn't be an index card role in X of characters.

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Yeah, you are just going through all these characters and you're just like,

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who's sending a pretzel, which one pops up first?

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And oftentimes, whenever you're creating a new character,

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you create them as a side character first, see how people like them,

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if you get rid of them, and people are just like, hey,

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we really want that character.

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Can you bring them back?

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Then you realize, oh, you have something there.

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Whereas for the most part, you're just creating characters left and right,

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and you're just like, we need a character who's like,

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bendy and stretchy.

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A long-gated man has kind of like, I don't have it in my notes,

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but like, he has continued as well.

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And there are some comics and even TV shows where they like,

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they cross paths with each other.

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Now, if it isn't plastic, man,

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and uh, uh, and uh, elongated man, you know the ductile detective?

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I never heard of it.

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It's so weird that that's like a fascination that there are multiple multiples.

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Yeah. The first appearance of "Plasic Man" in DC Comics was actually in July 1966,

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with Dial H for Hero.

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Now, it's not the official character, though.

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In this, the premise of the comic is that the main character,

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Robbie Reed, he has a magical dial, kind of think of it like a rotary phone.

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And when he dials the word hero,

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he'll like, he transforms into a random hero to help him fight crime for whatever...

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That's cool.

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...and in this issue, he just happened to turn into plastic man.

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He is for plastic man.

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So they actually took that character, the exact character plastic man.

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He transformed into plastic man and then he fought.

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Plastic man would get a reboot in 1966 in "Plasic Man" volume 2, issue 1,

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in which the character was a bit wackier.

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They did away with this...

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"Plasic, you can't wack here, then who's he wings?"

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Well, they did away with "Woozy Wings."

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No, I know, but if that was your original cohort, where do you go?

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"Plasic Man, if you are unaware of how he acts, he is very much like Deadpool."

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Oh!

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Yeah. He's kind of a very similar character.

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He's kind of like one who makes all the quips always trying to...

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If there's a serious situation, he's the one who's gonna crack a joke to break the ice.

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Just broke everything I was thinking.

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"This would be easier to put together. Let me see. Anywhere but I friggin' battle."

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Yeah, he's not truly a serious character. He's very...

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I didn't think he was necessarily serious, but with a name like "Plasic Man"

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and a cohort of "Woozy Wings," I thought he was like, "Hi, I'm plastic man."

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I didn't think he could be played by Ryan Reynolds, so...

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No, but kind of knowing the character now, had we not seen him as Deadpool?

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Dead who? He could definitely work as "Plasic Man."

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Okay, so they did away with "Woozy Wings." He did get a few other side characters.

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They were Gordon K. Trueblood. He was a petster or owner, and then there was the police officer,

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Captain McSniffy.

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He...

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God, they were different times.

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Yeah.

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For him, he always believed that like "Plasic Man" was always a criminal. He was always suspicious

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that he was a criminal. He's like...

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There's no way that this guy is good enough.

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I don't believe that monk for a second.

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Yeah, exactly. In issue seven, there was a major twist in the story.

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When it's revealed that the "Plasic Man" that we've been following was actually the sun

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of the "Plasic Man" from "Quality Comics."

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Bump, bump, bump!

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Yeah, so we didn't even get the first appearance of Patrick Eel O'Brien in "Dasty Comics"

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until November 1967.

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What's his son's name?

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His son's name is...

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I don't know.

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Like who were we seeing then if we weren't seeing him?

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Yeah, he just went by Eel's O'Brien.

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Yeah, when it first came out, so we just kind of assumed that it was him.

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But later on, he just went by Junior after that.

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So Eel's O'Brien Junior.

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So that was just a way to like...

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not give anything away.

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Because if he changes his name, he would be like, "Oh, this guy is different."

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This guy is not the "Plasic Man" I grew up with.

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There was three more issues of "Plasic Man."

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They were published after that, giving him a 10-issue run.

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"Plasic Man" does have a crossover in "The Brave and the Bold" number 76.

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This was in 1968, where he teamed up with Batman to defeat the "Molder."

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Now, he was a villain.

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"Mollinator."

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Now, he's a villain who uses plastic-based weapons and gadgets.

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The "Mollinator" it, not sorry.

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The "Molder."

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Do you know the "Mollinators" from?

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Is that the Incredibles?

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No, it's from Santa Claus.

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Wait, really?

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Yeah, in the second one.

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I'm the "Mollinator."

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It's the tooth fairy.

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He wants a cooler name.

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Wow.

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I did not pay attention to those movies as closely.

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So, the "Molder."

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He made plastic-based weapons and gadgets.

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What's notable about this?

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Oh, the "Molder."

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The "Molder."

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M-O-U-L-D.

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The "Molder."

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Not M-O-L-D.

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No.

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Very different.

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Now, do you see why I was confused?

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Now, what's notable about this story is that "Plasic Man" is broken up into many pieces,

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but Batman can actually simply put him back together as if he was like clay.

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With their love.

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And with friendship.

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In the 60s, we weren't going to make a comment like that.

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Wait, so in "Plasic Man,"

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I find this character really fascinating.

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Because with me, when you think about Reed Richards,

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in my head, he's like silly, putty-like-he's goo, right?

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Yeah, essentially.

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When you say "Plasic Man," I think, like, "Topperware."

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Yeah, it's not as malleable.

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Yeah, so I'm like, he actually can be broken.

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Yeah, he can be broken, but also just like...

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Just like put back together.

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Yeah.

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So "Plasic Man"'s volume 2 stopped at issue 10 in June of 1968,

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and when he get picked up for 10 more issues until March 1976, so about eight years later.

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Between that time, he did make a few appearances.

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There was the Justice League of America, issue 107, that came out in October 1973.

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In it, the Justice League, from Earth 2, they team up with the Freedom Fighters from Earth X.

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The Freedom Fighters consist of Black Condor, Doll Man, human bomb, he makes an appearance again.

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Phantom Lady, she's back, Ray, and Uncle Sam.

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These are all characters from quality comics.

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I need to look up quality comics, human bomb.

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In the comic, it is revealed that "Plasic Man" was with them, but he had died.

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Or at least this would have been the "Plasic Man" that was on Earth 2 in the Earth X variant.

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"Plasic Man" would make another brave in the bold appearance in issue 97 when he teams with Batman again.

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"Oh yeah, the kick crusader prefers to work with one."

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In issue 11 of "Plasic Man" volume 2.

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Oh, Phantom Lady is fascinating looking.

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That's gonna be my next Halloween costume.

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Like, I'm just going off like original, like, the "Plasic Man"

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suit kind of thing with green.

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Yeah, it kind of looks like what Catwoman's costume used to look like when she had a cape.

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And then she gets like, "Varavumd."

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And then we go to the future and she has long clothes.

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All right.

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So "Plasic Man" would make another appearance in the "Brave in the Bold" issue 95 where he teams with Batman again.

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For issue 11 of "Plasic Man" volume 2.

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This would be a continuation of that character that we saw in "Brave in the Bold."

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And that was considered to be from "Earth 1."

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So issue 10 is from "Earth 12."

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Issue 11 is from "Earth 1."

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But both of the continuations are in volume 2.

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It's, yeah.

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And then from "Issue 11" on "Plasic Man" we get his old sidekick back, "Hoozy Winks."

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"Gull Woozy."

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"Plasic Man" would periodically appear in other comics.

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And his volume 2, one would be discontinued in 1977.

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Now if you think this is all confusing, don't worry.

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The editors, the authors, and everyone I like DC, they thought it was confusing as well.

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This is when they were just like, we want a new start of a superhero,

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but we already have that superhero who's in circulation,

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so we're going to put it on "Earth 5" or "Earth 6" or "Earth 7" or "Earth 8."

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Yeah, because that clears it up.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Moving away from the comics,

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we are going to go into his appearance in television.

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Whoa.

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Yeah, now "Plasic Man."

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He almost got a show that was produced by Filmmation.

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If you don't know, "Filmation," they did a bunch of DC animated series.

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Back in the '60s, there was the new "Adventures of Superman,"

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there was Aquaman, there was Batman with Robin, the Boy Wonder.

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The show was developed in 1967, but then was cancelled before it began.

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But in 1979, "Plasic Man" had his own animated TV show,

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as "The Plastic Man Comedy Adventure" show.

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Oh, man, I was hoping it was like the comedy adventure power.

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Like "Plasic Man" had a variety show.

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Yeah, I mean, a lot of these were variety shows kind of like what the

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"Luney" tunes like they always had variety shows or like "Skippy-Doo."

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That's what you think when you think, say "Variety Show."

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I think Carol Burnett.

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Oh, no.

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This is nothing like the-

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Live action.

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And when it goes on with the "Win Curtains."

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No, nothing like that.

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The show was produced by "Ruby Spears Production."

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In the show, "Plasic Man" had a new sidekick.

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This was a bumbling, Hawaiian government agent,

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known as "Hoola-Hoola."

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Patrick had his own girlfriend, Penny, and his kid, "Baby Plas."

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I don't like that.

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Yeah.

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B-L-A-S.

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The series had run for two years in one into syndication.

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When the show re-aired, a live action segment was added

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where a live action "Plasic Man" which was portrayed by

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Mark Craig Taylor would introduce and provide "Sekways" in the show.

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I'm "Plasic Man."

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Welcome to the show.

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For those of you who don't know, this is my show.

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I am a superhero, and quite possibly the best superhero there is.

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Right, Chief?

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Right, Chief?

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No.

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The voice of "Plasic Man" for the cartoon that was provided by Michael Bell.

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You can actually look up the live action "Plasic Man" from 1980.

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Oh my God.

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Yeah, it's wacky and weird, and they had very early...

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It's not CGI, but...

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I'm so excited to get to the movie bit of this because every time I google something,

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like fan castings are popping up, and I don't want to talk about it yet because we're not there.

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No.

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But I am excited?

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Yes.

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Now, back at DC Comics, they went through a major shift in 1985.

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This is something that I mentioned before with Superman, Batman, One Roman,

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and our Catwoman episode.

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Do you remember what happened with DC Comics in 1985?

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Big old crisis.

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I don't remember.

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I'm sorry.

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It's called Crisis on Infinite Earths.

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Oh.

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Crisis on Infinite Earths.

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I thought you meant the company, not the...

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I mean, it was kind of both.

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So, long story short, DC had to do like a big reset, essentially.

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And they figured out a storyline in which they took all of the different Earths,

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all of the different multiverses, and they were just like...

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Oh, got it.

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...got to like restart everything.

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We're going to hone it all in, and just like...

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We're going to create this guy who like eats Earths, eats different planets, and whatnot,

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and he just like...

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poops out one Earth and be like, "That's the one that everyone is going to start on.

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We're going to have Earth one, and that's it.

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That's all."

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So, whatever storyline was happening in the 80s, which is all reset,

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didn't matter if you were in the middle of a story.

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Yeah.

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Whoa!

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00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,280
So, now everyone lives on Earth one.

464
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,520
Plastic Man is then reintroduced in November 1988,

465
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,400
in Plastic Man, Volume 3 with a 4- Issue Run,

466
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,560
which was written by Phil Folglio.

467
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,160
As for the origin story, it's actually the same origin that they took from

468
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,680
quality comics.

469
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:57,600
In fact, the panels of the original police comics were then recreated,

470
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,560
down to even what they said, and actually have this here.

471
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,800
So, you can actually see the comics right here.

472
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,000
So, the top one here, that is quality comics.

473
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,320
So, you can see like, that's the the gang.

474
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,280
They're going down the stairs.

475
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,640
You get shot, and they get away.

476
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,440
Same thing is here.

477
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,240
The gangs together, they're going down the stairs.

478
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,920
Yeah, they even put the like 10- little stairs in the corner of them.

479
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,880
Yeah.

480
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,080
So, like, he's even saying the same thing.

481
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,200
And his like profile is very similar.

482
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,080
It's just a little darker, a little more well drawn,

483
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,240
but like, essentially, they're like...

484
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,200
It's updated.

485
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,080
Yeah.

486
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,120
But now in 4K.

487
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:38,800
But they looked at, and they were like, the origin story is great.

488
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,000
Like, why fix that?

489
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,120
We're just going to redo that and just like go from there.

490
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,360
Especially if you were crunching a bunch and making everything go back to one.

491
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,960
Like, why wouldn't you take the best pieces of the original?

492
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,880
Yeah, it's a brilliant, brilliant idea.

493
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:58,720
Yet again, plastic man would make his sporadic appearances in other comics.

494
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,240
He's shown in a picture of All-Star Squadron issue number 60,

495
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,240
which was in August 1986.

496
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,160
He's in a flashback scene in Infinity Inc.

497
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,360
Issue number 39, which came out in June of 1987.

498
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:22,640
And as a cameo of the freedom fighters in the young All-Stores issue number 97 in July 1989.

499
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:28,080
In 1994, DC hit the reset button again with zero hour crisis in time.

500
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,840
Essentially the same thing.

501
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:35,440
And in this, plastic man is a hero from around the world where two era

502
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,920
and is still fighting in the modern day.

503
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,800
Because of his powers, it makes him unique and kind of makes him immortal.

504
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,360
Right.

505
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:43,760
Yeah.

506
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,800
He would make a lot more small appearances until 1998 when Grant Morrison,

507
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:55,840
he introduced plastic man as a prominent member of the JLA or the Justice League of America in Rock of Ages.

508
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,320
Now from there, yeah.

509
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,240
With Tom Cruise.

510
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,480
Yes.

511
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,480
From there on, plastic man would become more popular.

512
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,520
He became a more consistent member in the Justice League.

513
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,960
And this is where I'm going to discontinue the history of plastic man because this is kind of...

514
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,560
Because we're in 1994 now.

515
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,880
Because we're in the 1990s right now.

516
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,840
We existed.

517
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,680
And this is, yeah.

518
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,920
And this is essentially like all the knowledge that's out there that would have been available

519
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,560
to make the movie.

520
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:26,960
Got it.

521
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,680
But before we dive into that movie, we're going to dive into these advertisements.

522
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:41,360
And we're back.

523
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,400
Brought to you by...

524
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:42,880
Bluey.

525
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,680
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526
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,320
Bluey.

527
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,400
We're diving into plastic man becoming a movie in the early 90s.

528
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,600
In 1992, a variety they did an interview with Steven Spielberg.

529
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,240
And which he talked mostly about the production of Jurassic Park.

530
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,680
But Spielberg revealed that his production company, Ambulin, was working with...

531
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,480
Wamblin, Blamblin.

532
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:00,880
Blamblin.

533
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:06,800
But they were working with Warner Brothers in creating a plastic man film with Brian Spicer.

534
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,800
Brian Spicer, he has written a few things like the mighty morphing power-rangers.

535
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,200
For Richard or poor, there is a lot of other tea.

536
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:20,320
He also wrote a lot of TV shows including one episode of "Once Upon a Time."

537
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,920
Yeah.

538
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,040
Which one?

539
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,320
Season 1, episode 11, "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree."

540
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,840
It was season 1, which is one of the best seasons of "Once Upon a Time."

541
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,160
So...

542
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,000
Not one of it is the definitive best season of "Once Upon a Time."

543
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,200
But I was like...

544
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,360
Because I've watched season 1 a lot.

545
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,680
And I know that what certain episodes are.

546
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,800
So I was trying to like guess.

547
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,160
And I was like, "My power!"

548
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,880
But this would have been his directorial debut for a feature film.

549
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,640
Now to write the film was the "Witchowski's."

550
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,400
Then, "No Another Time" as...

551
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,400
Oh, they were just writing, they weren't directing?

552
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,120
They were just writing.

553
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,000
So then, at the time, they were known as "Larian Andy."

554
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Now they are known as Lana and Lily.

555
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:08,640
The script was leaked and their draft was submitted in 1995.

556
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,720
Now this is well before the Matrix.

557
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:16,800
And really, the only thing that they were known for was writing a Richard Donner film,

558
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,520
which was "Assassins," which starred "Selvestre Stallone" and Antonio Benderes.

559
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,640
Their career is fascinating to me.

560
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,560
Because so when was bound?

561
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,520
Bound is...

562
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,280
Bound is...

563
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,320
96?

564
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,480
96, yes.

565
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,880
So like, this is 95.

566
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,040
They've done the one movie.

567
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:42,960
I mean, I guess it's the mid 90s superhero movies aren't what they were a couple years ago.

568
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,080
But like, that's still a big like "Power Punch" movie.

569
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,600
And then they do "Bound," which is offbeat and quirky.

570
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,440
But still like "Bound" repushing.

571
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,440
And then they go to "Mate."

572
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,400
Like, wow.

573
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,480
Oh, because of really one producer, which was Joel Silver,

574
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,600
which we'll get into later.

575
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,080
Got it.

576
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,880
Yeah.

577
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:03,760
So...

578
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,520
I needed that answer.

579
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,160
Yeah.

580
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,240
I do want to jump ahead just a little bit in chronological order,

581
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,840
just to help you like visualize like who would portray plastic man.

582
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,520
Now, there were some rumors...

583
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,240
Jim Carrey.

584
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,440
Yeah, there were some rumors.

585
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,000
Yeah, that...

586
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,600
Jim Carrey.

587
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,240
Oh, really?

588
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,280
I was doing a joke.

589
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,160
No, like...

590
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,840
I mean, you saw him in the mask.

591
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:24,560
Yeah, that's what...

592
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,160
Like, I was thinking like 90s.

593
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,560
Yeah, they kind of envisioned him as like being that...

594
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,520
He's made her a...

595
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,360
Yeah, and if you were thinking that plastic man is supposed to be like a humorous character

596
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,520
or something like that, Jim Carrey fits the bill perfectly.

597
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,360
Well, and like the way he can mold his body.

598
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,280
Yeah, and the mask, like, that was a comic book.

599
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,640
That was a comic book movie.

600
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,640
That is brand new information.

601
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,160
Yeah, sort of off its comic book first.

602
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,240
It's a very darker comic book.

603
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,200
But yes...

604
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,480
There's your remake.

605
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,280
Mm-hmm.

606
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,440
But yeah, like if he could do that, there's like, this is perfect for it.

607
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,400
Another character who's had his face...

608
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:07,360
Anytime, anytime, I think of Ace Ventura, I always think of the sliding glass door.

609
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,040
Opening, closing, yeah.

610
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:16,640
Without fail, and I can't not talk about it without it like appearing in my mind.

611
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,680
I'm so sorry.

612
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,520
Now, there was another actor who is also had his face elongated in a movie.

613
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,000
And that was...

614
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,800
Can I make a cry?

615
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,720
No, it was Bruce Campbell.

616
00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:31,680
At the time known as Ash in Evil Dead and the Army of Darkness.

617
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,800
Yeah, but he is...

618
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,840
He is this face elongated in Sam Remy's.

619
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,160
Yeah, those two different movies.

620
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,440
No.

621
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,880
It's the same character.

622
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,960
Yeah, when does he have his face?

623
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,920
Army of Darkness.

624
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,680
I need to re-watch Army of Darkness.

625
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,160
Yeah.

626
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,400
But that's like a moment that's not a whole thing.

627
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,320
That's not a whole thing, but it like happens...

628
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,360
Like that's makeup that they put on his face.

629
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:53,600
Yeah.

630
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,440
But also, you can't compare...

631
00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,320
Like Jim Carey, I feel like is in a league of his own when it comes to body morphing.

632
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:00,560
Yeah.

633
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,560
So Glad is using it for Sonic now.

634
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:02,960
But like...

635
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:09,440
And you'll hear in the story like that they kind of had him more in mind than Jim Carey.

636
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,040
Jim Carey, like he...

637
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,040
Wait, they had Bruce Campbell more in mind?

638
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,080
Or yeah, they had Bruce Campbell more so in mind than...

639
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,640
Yeah, I think Jim Carey just was like...

640
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,440
He was such a high-ask at that point.

641
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,640
Like he had just done...

642
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,960
Yeah, we're in the height of his career, basically.

643
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,680
Yeah, I think in the span of '94, it was the mask...

644
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,640
Ace Ventura.

645
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,880
Ace Ventura and Dumb and Dumber.

646
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,680
And then all in the same...

647
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,880
When Batman.

648
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,720
That's '96, but like...

649
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:37,600
But like...

650
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,720
Yeah, he's in high demand.

651
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:42,480
And like for those three movies to come out in the same year, like...

652
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,600
Jim Carey is like the top actor at this time.

653
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,800
Throw in the majestic.

654
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,920
Yeah.

655
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:54,000
But to think like, oh, maybe he might be too much, but like Bruce Campbell seems more obtainable

656
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,400
and he's still relevant.

657
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:03,200
Where I'm gonna go out of order here is everyone thinks because this is what Chausky's obviously,

658
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,600
they're gonna choose Kiana Reeves.

659
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,400
Whoa.

660
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,840
But this is pre-matrix.

661
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,040
Now, right?

662
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,800
This is why I'm going out of order here because...

663
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,000
Well, now I'm confused.

664
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,840
So, the reason why I bring him up is because this was after 2008.

665
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:25,040
The Chausky's had established themselves with the matrix trilogy and they had done...

666
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:25,840
Oh, so...

667
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,040
Okay, hang on.

668
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,840
Reeve-ined.

669
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,200
So in '94, they...

670
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,600
Or '95, they wrote the script.

671
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,560
They wrote the script with Jim Carey or Bruce Campbell in mind.

672
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,640
With Jason Splycer, what is his name?

673
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,680
James Splycer.

674
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,000
Uh...

675
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,720
Directed?

676
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:39,200
Yes.

677
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,200
So if we fast forward to 2008,

678
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,120
are they intended to direct?

679
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:43,760
Are we still keeping...

680
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,400
Okay, great.

681
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:50,640
So in 2008, this is right after the matrix trilogy, they had done Speed Racer and...

682
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,320
Now I understand the Kiana Reeves.

683
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,320
Yeah, and they're like, we're gonna re-visit the script again.

684
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,040
Or at least the rumors of it was gonna happen.

685
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,240
And they're like, well, obviously, if they're gonna do this,

686
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:06,000
they're gonna choose their main boy, Kiana Reeves, to be plastic man.

687
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,840
I could take Kiana Reeves in some short shorts.

688
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,880
Yeah.

689
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,520
I don't think he's right for that, but I don't think so either.

690
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,080
But I wanted to put it in there just ahead of time so that you can kind of like...

691
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:16,560
Yeah.

692
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,240
...put in your head like, oh, who can I imagine in this role?

693
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:23,840
And you can kind of like, replace which one you want to do, like,

694
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,440
Kiana Beach and McCarrie, Kiana Beach, Bruce Campbell, Kiana Beach, Kiana Reeves, and just kind of...

695
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,840
But like, them in different era, so like...

696
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,760
Is that the one that we're gonna be talking about?

697
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,400
Like that story is what we're gonna be talking about is the 2008 version?

698
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,720
We are talking about the 1995 version because there was no revision of it.

699
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:39,200
Got it.

700
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:39,920
Yeah.

701
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,400
Now before we get into this movie, we are gonna get into these advertisements.

702
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:54,800
We're getting into the movie.

703
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,080
To the moving pictures.

704
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,040
This is "Plasic Man" written by the Wachowski's.

705
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,280
It was submitted on March 17th, 1995.

706
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:09,280
We opened an alab scene from the perspective of a lab mouse.

707
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:16,240
This mouse is in a cage with several other mice and a beautiful woman in a white lab coat

708
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:18,400
enters and opens the cage.

709
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,640
Inside the mice cower and position themselves into the corner of the cage.

710
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,480
The scientist picks up the mouse that we've been following.

711
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:32,640
She flips the mouse and uses an enormous hyperdermic needle to inject a sapphire blue fluid.

712
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,120
The mouse is then put into a tank, which is filled with a milky fluid.

713
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,880
The mouse is nauseous and gets blurred vision.

714
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:46,080
After the tank is drained, the mouse is picked up and slips through the woman's fingers.

715
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,640
The mouse hits the ground and bounces.

716
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,200
The mouse zips around the floor, evading the capture of the scientist and her assistant.

717
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,280
And the mouse slips into a drain, humbling down the rabbit hole.

718
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,040
And it's completely dark.

719
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,640
The hell?

720
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:05,120
So the mouse gets injected with "Plasic Man"

721
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,480
and gets all bouncy and rubbery or not.

722
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,160
It's not the origin story that...

723
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,200
Down the hole.

724
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:17,760
But I do want to emphasize because they did write this in the script that the mouse goes down the rabbit hole.

725
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,040
Because if you...

726
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,240
It isn't that the whole point of the matrix?

727
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,720
To go down the rabbit hole just like Alice.

728
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:27,120
I watched the matrix for the first time recently.

729
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:34,960
That is astonishing that you have not seen the matrix before until the year of our Lord 2025.

730
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Also, it was really hard to get me to see the matrix.

731
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,400
I don't understand.

732
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,280
This is like a staple of the film industry.

733
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,000
Honestly, it was kind of refreshing to watch on my own.

734
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,880
The VFX really holds up in a way that I was surprised.

735
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,400
Yeah, it's a really good movie.

736
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:58,480
It really changed the trajectory of the use of special effects in movies.

737
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,360
I feel like I need to watch it like six times to fully understand it because I'm still real confused.

738
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,880
But like, it was something.

739
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,560
Yeah. Off screen.

740
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,480
We hear a man sneeze.

741
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,400
He's in a dime store and we see a man step out of a photo booth.

742
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:19,600
He's speaking to himself, trying to find the right words before he talks to Dr. Susan Bright as he grabs his photo strip.

743
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:25,520
We see multiple photos of his face, resembling a comic strip with the last photo of him sneezing.

744
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,560
We cut to the exterior of an upscale brownstone apartment.

745
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,920
This is Susan's home.

746
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,000
Are we still in the mouse's perspective?

747
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,960
No, we are not.

748
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,040
Yeah. So we followed the mouse to get...

749
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,240
Down the right hole.

750
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:38,480
Yeah.

751
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,440
And then he emerges to get to the dime store.

752
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,240
Got it.

753
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:43,520
This is Susan's apartment.

754
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,520
When she opens the door, we see it's the same scientist from the first scene.

755
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,280
She's juggling her belongings as she gets into her car.

756
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,880
And we hear a man's voice.

757
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,680
Hello, Susan.

758
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,600
This is Daniel Eel O'Brien.

759
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,400
They changed the name.

760
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,120
Damn Daniel.

761
00:40:59,120 --> 00:40:59,840
Yeah.

762
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:05,840
This is really weird because I went through this whole script as the main character, Daniel.

763
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,920
So it's going to be like me talking to their person.

764
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,600
It's a weird feeling.

765
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,520
I'm going to try and get over that.

766
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,920
The description of him is that he is a black leather activist.

767
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,960
We cannot tell if he is dangerous or if he just looks dangerous.

768
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,880
Through this conversation, we learn that these two used to be together.

769
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,120
And she's not looking to get back together.

770
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,440
Daniel has been in prison for the last six months.

771
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,640
He tells her that he's been following her work, reading every article about her,

772
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,560
and her polymerization experiments and the nanotechnology.

773
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,800
And he's noticed that she hasn't published anything lately.

774
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,960
She's flattered about his attentiveness.

775
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,000
It's all women want.

776
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:48,240
Yeah.

777
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:49,280
We want you to pay attention.

778
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:49,840
Yeah.

779
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,200
But she ends the conversation because she needs to go to work, just like women do.

780
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,360
I lost my mouse.

781
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,240
I got to go.

782
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:56,960
Yeah.

783
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,560
And Susan takes off in her car leaves Daniel behind.

784
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:06,560
We get an establishing shot of Kalamot City, which is a fictional city made up for the movie.

785
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,600
I was like, I don't know what it was.

786
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,040
Yeah.

787
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,760
It is an industrial wasteland towering,

788
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,040
smokestacks in warehouses of corrugated steel.

789
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,360
Vactories and chemical plants built around a small lake that shimmers

790
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:25,920
of an oily iridescent sheen while its shores turn into a frothy green bile.

791
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,640
So it's just like a very toxic city.

792
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,280
No, thank you.

793
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,720
In the center of it all is argon laboratories and argon tower.

794
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:41,120
Inside the argon tower, we follow Mrs. Poppy walking down the hallway.

795
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:46,640
Quote, she is a stunning woman of cosmetic perfection in a body that might have been

796
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,960
surgically cut from a comic book.

797
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,600
She designs her own dresses made from argon rubber or PVC.

798
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:59,360
Usually red to match her collection and high heeled shoes and boots.

799
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,480
If you remember the lady dressed in red in the matrix,

800
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,040
kind of something along the lines of that.

801
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:05,760
Oh yeah.

802
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,680
Yeah, or like Jennifer Tilly in Bounton.

803
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:08,880
Yeah.

804
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,520
Yeah.

805
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:09,920
Yeah.

806
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,040
Oh yeah.

807
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,680
Yeah, it's kind of their style to have like a woman made up.

808
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,960
Perfectly cut out in the letter.

809
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:15,920
Yeah.

810
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,680
Even in the matrix, there's a lot of like leather.

811
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,760
So if you think about Trinity as well.

812
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,440
Yeah, that is clearly a theme.

813
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,000
Yep, which is why I had you watch those movies to be like,

814
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,880
not for that moment specifically, but you know, like, just for the letter.

815
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,800
But there are just like some moments in there where you just like.

816
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,400
No, I thought I watched both those movies.

817
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,640
I think it really gives me a perspective of their directing.

818
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,200
Yeah, yeah.

819
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,480
She's searching for her husband, Icarus argon.

820
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,480
I know.

821
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,800
I heard the name and I was like, you are not being subtle about this metaphor.

822
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:45,680
I am a villain.

823
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,280
Yeah.

824
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,360
I've flown too close to the sun.

825
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:56,400
In his office, we see his face on the cover of People magazine as the sexiest man alive

826
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,320
in time as the man of the year.

827
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,520
He's no Jonathan Bailey.

828
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,640
There's also a 1989 Mr. University trophy.

829
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,520
When we see President A. Icarus, he's wheelchair bound and described as,

830
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:15,600
quote, an unwrapped mummy, brown flesh drapes over stringy cords of muscles,

831
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,800
like a wet paper bag.

832
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,120
His eyes, hard white marbles lined with red cracks.

833
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,120
So he's like, definitely been decrepit over the years.

834
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:30,880
In my head, when I was reading all that, I was picturing Arnold Schwarzenegger because of like,

835
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,240
the time.

836
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:36,400
And then as soon as that description started, I was like, I'm so wrong.

837
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,240
You know, he's in a very, very bad spot in his life right now.

838
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:41,360
Is he living?

839
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,320
He's barely there.

840
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,600
Poppy needs Icarus to sign off on some papers.

841
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:52,000
Icarus is suspicious that Poppy is withholding a cure from him, but she assures him that she's not.

842
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,120
And when they lost the first mouse, it was purely an accident.

843
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,800
Poppy gives Icarus his meds.

844
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,880
She blows him a kiss and she leaves.

845
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:08,080
Outside the lab, Susan pulls up to the gate and she can't find her security card.

846
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,920
She tells the garden and he says that he'll just make another one for her later and just lets her in.

847
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:18,640
We cut to the admiral hotel where we find Daniel forging Susan security card to look like his.

848
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,720
He uses the photos from the photo booth to make his profile picture.

849
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:23,280
Ah!

850
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,680
Sneaky, sneaky.

851
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,160
We zoom out to reveal that Daniel is obsessed with the work that's been done at Argonne

852
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,720
and we see articles of their work plaster all over his face.

853
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:34,320
He cuts full Charlie day.

854
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,920
Yeah, it's, man.

855
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:46,000
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the red string, there's a whole episode of Decodering about the red string

856
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,520
and how it was completely made up.

857
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,240
It's fabricated.

858
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:50,560
They don't use it in police investigations.

859
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,520
Detectives don't use it.

860
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,560
They don't use it in the FBI or the CIA or the CIA.

861
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,160
They ran out of air.

862
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,920
And it is so passionate about this.

863
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,400
And they just completely made it up.

864
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:08,240
They found like the turning point in which every movie in TV shows like have to do this

865
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:10,720
and it is a beautiful mind with Russell Crowe.

866
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:18,240
Like it is because of that movie that we have so many like red string boards in movies in TV shows.

867
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:22,000
And it's just a shorthand for like, they're either a genius who is about to figure it out

868
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,680
or they're completely batchit insane.

869
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,280
Yeah.

870
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,160
Charlie day.

871
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,080
But this is way before beautiful mind.

872
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,720
So it's just like him plastering up all these things to be like,

873
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:33,120
oh, I'm just going to research all of this stuff.

874
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,320
My brain wanted to say like unsolved mysteries because I could remember

875
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,160
watching those terrifying episodes and seeing stuff like that.

876
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:40,640
Yeah.

877
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:41,120
Yeah.

878
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,280
I feel like it existed before a beautiful mind,

879
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,560
but a beautiful mind is the moment it's like it exploded in the air.

880
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,520
Yeah.

881
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,120
So back to the lab.

882
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,480
We find Susan and her assistant Dr. Nigel Neibumman.

883
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,120
Oh, the race.

884
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:53,920
Sorry.

885
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,160
Yeah.

886
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,400
Dr. Nigel and Neibumman.

887
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,360
Oh my god.

888
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,240
I've.

889
00:46:58,240 --> 00:46:59,040
Yeah.

890
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,040
Nigel is thinking about plan to capture the escape mouse, but Susan is not paying

891
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:03,680
the attention.

892
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:04,800
That mouse is gone.

893
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,600
Yeah.

894
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,080
She is distracted thinking about Daniel.

895
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,160
We cut to a flashback of Daniel on the street.

896
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,000
A businessman tosses a surf from cup on the ground.

897
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,480
Daniel picks it up and confronts the litter bug.

898
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,600
I mentioned that because like he keeps on calling this guy litter bug.

899
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:20,560
Like it's a slur.

900
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,440
Many, many times it's kind of uncomfortable.

901
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,280
How many times he says it, but yes, okay.

902
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,320
Kips on to you.

903
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,280
After nagging the guy for a while, the litter bug beats the shit out of Daniel.

904
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,960
We cut back to the lab and Susan is telling a story to Nigel about how Daniel,

905
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,920
about five years ago, he was at Pernell Labs.

906
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,720
He released all of the monkeys that were being tested on.

907
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:46,640
I'm so confused like where they pulled all this from.

908
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,160
I am not sure.

909
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,680
The character has definitely shifted.

910
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,400
He's not a criminal.

911
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,640
He is a activist.

912
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:53,440
Which is fine.

913
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:53,840
Yeah.

914
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,080
And I get it, but it's so far from the lab.

915
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:56,720
Jason Gow.

916
00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:58,480
Yeah, it's so far from this source material.

917
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:04,080
Outside of the facility, we see Daniel drive past security with his counterfeit badge.

918
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,560
Inside, Susan goes to see Sim, who is the head of security.

919
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,240
She warns him that Daniel O'Brien might have stolen her badge.

920
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:17,120
Sim suspects that if he did, he might have already used it and he's in the building right now.

921
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,760
We cut to Daniel using the badge to get into the lab.

922
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:24,240
He puts on a lab coat sunglasses and a fake moustache to disguise himself.

923
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,960
Susan comes back to the lab.

924
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,720
She spots Daniel, but she's not entirely sure that it's him.

925
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:32,320
Because of his moustache.

926
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,360
Shows of the moustache.

927
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:39,680
Before she can investigate, Nebelman informs her that Poppy would like to speak to her.

928
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,800
Poppy asks if the second nano-bot would be ready soon for human experimentation.

929
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:50,320
Susan tries to explain that it's not ready yet, and there could be major consequences.

930
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,840
The reason is that they don't know how to deal with the waste that the nano-bots are creating.

931
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:56,480
The right row.

932
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:01,520
Poppy pushes for the experiment to be ready in Susan threatens her,

933
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,520
telling her that she could expose what they are doing to the EPA and the press.

934
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,760
Does Daniel over here this?

935
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,480
He does not.

936
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:08,880
No.

937
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,200
Yeah.

938
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,880
He's fixed his dwelling as moustache.

939
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,760
Yeah, moustache.

940
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,080
Day turns tonight.

941
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,600
In a storage room, we see a barrel labeled explosive materials.

942
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:23,200
Contains Trino, Trotutlin.

943
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,840
I'm pretty sure that's made up for this story.

944
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:26,800
I don't know what that is.

945
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,240
That might be an actual element, and I may pronounce it very wrong.

946
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:31,440
Trina, Tripoline.

947
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,360
Trinitrotutlin.

948
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:34,160
No, you're saying.

949
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,080
Not gonna get it.

950
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:36,560
Anyway.

951
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,440
But the lid pops open.

952
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,720
And Daniel crawls out.

953
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:42,880
He sneaks through the building and back into the lab.

954
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,000
This movie is, I like,

955
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,520
to go from bound and matrix to this.

956
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,080
Like, I see all of the connections,

957
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,320
but this is also like, who framed Roger Rabbit?

958
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,320
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

959
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,120
Like, yeah.

960
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,640
So he finds the mice, calls them POWs, and he lets them free.

961
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:08,160
In the security room, Sims and another officer, Dabby,

962
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,160
sees, yeah.

963
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,360
Dabby is a free L.

964
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,680
It is exactly how it's pronounced, Dabby, yes.

965
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,040
It is.

966
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,080
Dabby got a sound.

967
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,680
They see movement in the monitors and leave to investigate.

968
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,320
Daniel locates the nano-bot containment system.

969
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,800
He uses graphite dust on the feet.

970
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,400
What else are nanobytes in?

971
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,920
Nanobytes are in a lot, right?

972
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:28,720
Nanobots.

973
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:29,360
Nanobots.

974
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,400
Nanobytes.

975
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,200
Nanobots.

976
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,160
Then you'll look at the nano-bot containment system.

977
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,920
Nanobots are just like little...

978
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,000
Are those the things from Big Hero 6?

979
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:38,480
Yeah.

980
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:38,960
Okay.

981
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,080
Yeah, just like anything.

982
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,760
That's like a small robot.

983
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:42,080
Cool.

984
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:42,640
That's what I thought.

985
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,480
I'd been sitting here being like, Big Hero 6,

986
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,120
Big Hero 6.

987
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:45,920
And I was like, just ask.

988
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:46,400
Yeah.

989
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,160
And we kind of see nanobots in the matrix as well.

990
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,960
Using graphite dust on the keypad, he figures out the pin number and he opens it.

991
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,440
In it is a glass tube filled with a sapphire blue liquid.

992
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,640
Ah!

993
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,680
The guards open the door.

994
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,560
Daniel bolts and runs into Dabby's chest.

995
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,760
Dabby fist hammers on top of Daniel's head.

996
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,480
Maximum out.

997
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,680
With the test tube?

998
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,400
No, he's just like, Dabby is just like Lenny and he's just like,

999
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,600
"Bulk."

1000
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:12,880
Just a big little wonk.

1001
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,760
We fade into the point of view shot from Daniel where we see Poppy,

1002
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,280
Icarus, and Sims.

1003
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,200
Daniel is trapped on a table.

1004
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,720
We get a better look at Icarus who's described as

1005
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:30,000
"cracked, lipless smile revealing, ulcerous gums, and stained teeth."

1006
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,640
Icarus holds Daniel's face with one hand in a hyperdermic needle in the other.

1007
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,520
He tells him, quote, "For every environmentalist, anti-industrialist,

1008
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,640
animal activists that has shoved their myopic,

1009
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,560
pretentious cause of the mouth crap down my throat."

1010
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,640
I shove this down yours.

1011
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,440
In Icarus sticks the needle into Daniel's neck.

1012
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:52,320
We zoom in.

1013
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,920
In your neck?

1014
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,920
We zoom inside the needle and into the liquid.

1015
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,680
And we follow a nanobot as it gets injected into Daniel's bloodstream.

1016
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,640
That's straight up me, Dr.

1017
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:07,120
The nanobot looks like a snowflake and it starts to, in fact,

1018
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,400
multiple protein cells.

1019
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,680
We fade into a flashback of Daniel and Susan in a grocery store.

1020
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,280
It's implied that they're together.

1021
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,720
She's telling him about the nanobots, how they're the future.

1022
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:23,200
And he warns her about how corporations are going to use it to abuse tech,

1023
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,520
and they have nefarious reasons behind it.

1024
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:31,520
He goes on a rant about processed foods and spots a kid who's trying to get trick cereal.

1025
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:37,200
And Daniel goes, yeah, Daniel goes and pushes the cereal box further back on the shelf,

1026
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,800
so the kid can't reach it anymore.

1027
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:39,760
But different kids?

1028
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,120
Yeah, it causes a scene. He tries to give him shredded weedies and said,

1029
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,360
it's a mess, yeah.

1030
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,440
I don't think that would have made it through clearance.

1031
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,040
Tricks would have been like, no, more specifically for the babies.

1032
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:57,280
Yeah, we fade back to Daniel in the test tube tank, where we see him going through a transformation.

1033
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,840
The tank gets really hot and explodes.

1034
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:06,160
Daniel's point of view is very blurry and wobbly because if you think like his eyeballs now,

1035
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,320
they're just like, they're not solid anymore.

1036
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,760
I don't like it.

1037
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,240
The flesh on his face seems to sag.

1038
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:16,880
They grab him and they pull out his arms like they're spaghetti.

1039
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:22,240
Daniel stands up, but he's standing on a floor drain and actually slips into it.

1040
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:25,280
Igris orders the guards to get them.

1041
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,040
Quote, behind them, the tank core continues to melt down.

1042
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,520
Gelatinous waste is splattering up the room.

1043
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,040
Daniel emerges from out of the storm drain like toothpaste.

1044
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,720
His body begins to assemble itself in its normal proportions and he stands up.

1045
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:43,360
He's naked, confused, and he walks away.

1046
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:48,720
His body seems to be expelling some kind of waste like he mentioned earlier,

1047
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:53,040
but it's not clear where it's from and Daniel heads back to the admiral hotel.

1048
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,400
So now he's become ziplastic man.

1049
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,280
This is a plastic man.

1050
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,040
That's a lot of imagery and you're going to have so much fun picking this down to fix for that.

1051
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,960
Yeah, and I keep thinking like, this is 95.

1052
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,640
Like, how do you do something like that?

1053
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,720
This is back in the day where it isn't at that point where they're like,

1054
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:16,080
"Oh, CGI can do everything because that's where I'm like the late 90s."

1055
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,840
This is around the time where it's just like,

1056
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,160
we have to make as many practical things as possible.

1057
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,200
Well, let's be clear, CGI.

1058
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,560
I still can't do everything.

1059
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,800
Okay, so I think this is written in '95.

1060
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,840
Like, we let things take longer back then.

1061
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,000
This movie wasn't coming out before '97, '98 at best.

1062
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,880
I would imagine that it would look something similar to the mask.

1063
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,080
Yeah.

1064
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,640
Like, you have that mix of CGI from like,

1065
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,280
ILM that they're creating, but there was so much practical that they had to do as well.

1066
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,720
So like, I imagine like when his face is sagging,

1067
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:56,000
like they would have to made some sort of prosthetic on him to make it look like that.

1068
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,600
Well, I mean, they hired the people from Army of Darkness.

1069
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:00,400
Hmm.

1070
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,280
You do that.

1071
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,440
We're going to find out in part two,

1072
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,120
what happens to Daniel O'Brien?

1073
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,840
What does he do with his newfound powers?

1074
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,520
Ooh.

1075
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,280
This Icarus could have come up in for what he did to Daniel.

1076
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,800
We'll find out.

1077
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,320
We'll find out next week.

1078
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,000
In the exciting conclusion of...

1079
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:18,960
Plastic Man.

1080
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,080
Plastic Man.

1081
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,000
Part two, Matrix, Boo-Galoo.

1082
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:33,120
And now for our favorite part of this week.

1083
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,160
In every week.

1084
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,880
What is your recommendations?

1085
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:37,760
Hacks.

1086
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:38,560
What is...

1087
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,080
Not even going to wait for you to finish.

1088
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,360
What are you watching?

1089
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,960
What do you want other people to watch?

1090
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,520
What are you judging people about not watching?

1091
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:46,960
Hacks.

1092
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,160
I've mentioned it a couple times this season.

1093
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,400
It now has 24 Emmy nominations.

1094
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,320
It has beat out shits Creek for most Emmy nominations.

1095
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,840
So go be a big brave girl and watch Hacks.

1096
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,760
And if you don't know what that means, you haven't watched Hacks yet.

1097
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,520
I remember you showing me that drone shot in How They Did It.

1098
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:14,080
And basically how they did it was like a dude grabbed the drone and kept the shot going.

1099
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,040
Yes, I believe their DP is Adam Bricker.

1100
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:23,280
I just started following him on Instagram because I think the cinematography is so beautiful.

1101
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,920
It's genius in the way that some things are shot for social media

1102
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,360
and fit in that sort of vertical spectrum.

1103
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,360
I don't even know that he's doing it intentionally where it's the perfect kind of framing

1104
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,800
that I think is intelligent.

1105
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,200
Where yes, you could frame it for vertical

1106
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,760
and you get the main cast in there and sure, sure, sure.

1107
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,160
But if you look at the entire frame on your television set,

1108
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,560
it tells a story and a complete painting that you could never get by just looking at that

1109
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:51,520
like vertical chunk.

1110
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:57,600
And so to me, that is sort of a genius of cinematography that we're not talking about yet.

1111
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:02,560
I get it. We're hating on the fact that you don't have perfect ratios and all of these things that we have

1112
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:03,760
on like a big screen.

1113
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:10,480
But I do think there are ways to be smart about it and make both of them like hold hands and tell a story together.

1114
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,040
And I think he does it perfectly.

1115
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,720
And there are two shots in season four and there are two characters that mirror each other.

1116
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,000
One person is at a big table and the other person is at bar tables.

1117
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:25,120
But if you look at them, the actual curve and everything is pointing to their chest.

1118
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,880
It's like their heart is their horizon line.

1119
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:28,000
It's beautiful.

1120
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,000
So hex.

1121
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:38,320
Well, if we're talking Emmy Noms, super heroes, I would like to recommend Spider-New War.

1122
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,400
It's got your boy, Lamor and Morse.

1123
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,400
He is fantastic.

1124
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:44,720
Yes.

1125
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:49,280
And if you really want to lean into him being colorblind, watching the show.

1126
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,680
I did not think about that.

1127
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,040
In black and white, I will say is stunning.

1128
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,760
It is a show that knew that it was going to be in black and white.

1129
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,120
They shot it to be black and white.

1130
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,120
It really does lean into the noir.

1131
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:07,360
Yeah.

1132
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:14,560
It does feel like this is Nicholas Cage really burrowing into cinema history

1133
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,560
into his James Carykney, into his Humphrey Boe Guards.

1134
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:25,040
Just pulling from all of old Hollywood, like all of the gangster films, all of the detective films,

1135
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:30,480
it feels like he's really just wanting to just live in that moment.

1136
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,800
I have watched the pilot and the second episode of it.

1137
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,200
It is to me exactly what I thought it would be.

1138
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,840
Ironically enough, for a woman that loves old Hollywood and noir and that kind of thing,

1139
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,320
was not enticed to watch the show.

1140
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,600
I actually watched it because my VFX friends worked on it.

1141
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,640
This is my favorite role of his.

1142
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:51,920
It's one of his better roles.

1143
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,040
Makes the most sense.

1144
00:58:53,040 --> 00:59:00,240
And it's his opportunity to like pale mosh to a lot of the films that he loves or like the films

1145
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,760
that he grew up watching.

1146
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,960
So he can definitely tell that he's tapping into it because he does that a lot.

1147
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,840
He is a character actor at the end of the day.

1148
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,760
Like he wants to play a big character.

1149
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:10,240
Yeah.

1150
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,360
And this is his opportunity to do so.

1151
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,240
And then on top of that, the more and more, I want more of him.

1152
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,760
He does a lot more in the show.

1153
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,440
But just in general, I'm saying like I want him to be a leading man in everything.

1154
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,800
I know in the like the pilot episodes or even like the first few episodes because they're still

1155
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,200
sitting up like the whole world, the characters and whatnot.

1156
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:36,240
He leans into a more leading role, especially in like the third or fourth episode, I believe,

1157
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,040
where like you see him being a reporter.

1158
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,720
You see him being a journalist and you see him being a photo journalist as well.

1159
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,120
And like he really takes the lead in that.

1160
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,840
He also does an impression of Nicholas Cage.

1161
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:48,880
Oh my god.

1162
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:54,240
Pretty funny. And he does it like two mock Nicholas Cage or at least his character in the show.

1163
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,600
And it's pretty great.

1164
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:56,480
That's a delight.

1165
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,680
And if you do watch Spider-Newark, watch it in black and white.

1166
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:07,280
I know why they offer the color just because a lot of people are just kind of turned off by black and white just in general.

1167
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,440
You know, I know that we are seeing a lot of trailers and things lately that look

1168
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,720
a little logged and gray-scaled.

1169
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:20,080
And the color of Spider-Newark, it feels like that Panavision 60s.

1170
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,200
The Technicolor.

1171
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:21,840
Technicolor.

1172
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,120
Thank you. That's what it is.

1173
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:28,240
Yeah. I will say that when they do bring in the color, it feels like they cranked up the saturation in a good way.

1174
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,360
I've been thinking a lot about saturation lately.

1175
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,200
I feel like we blanket statement saturation in so many ways.

1176
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,080
But Technicolor almost is its own let.

1177
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,560
Like it almost has its own color spectrum.

1178
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:45,280
They're like yes, it's spectrum, but it's also specific vivid.

1179
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,600
They have collectively defined an era.

1180
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,080
And so I think in our heads feel like an art piece.

1181
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:55,360
Nowadays, sometimes it's just like, oh, I'll just crank up the saturation to fix something.

1182
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,320
And it's like, no, no, no, you still have to create like a color panel.

1183
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,800
You still have to like create your own unique artistic color for this thing.

1184
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:02,960
Yeah.

1185
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:03,600
And they do.

1186
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,960
It looks really good.

1187
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,080
The color looks really good.

1188
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,920
But like I said, it was shot for black and white first.

1189
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,880
And it looks good in black and white.

1190
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,880
And you can find us on many social media platforms.

1191
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:21,840
We are on Instagram and TikTok at development purgatory.

1192
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:28,160
Blue sky is at dev purgatory because they wouldn't allow us to put our entire full name on there.

1193
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,440
You can find us on patreon development purgatory.

1194
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:38,080
Therefore, $5 a month, you can get ad free episodes and the full recording of our episodes as well.

1195
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:45,040
Also something that I have kept forgetting to mention, we have a new email because we have a new name.

1196
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:45,520
Name.

1197
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,040
Oh, yeah, that's fair.

1198
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,560
We still get emails for not get made at gmail.com.

1199
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,960
You can still use that one, but we have a new one that we will also be checking.

1200
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,480
It is development purgatory@gmail.com.

1201
01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,280
Yeah.

1202
01:01:59,280 --> 01:01:59,920
Yeah.

1203
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,800
So go out, see a movie.

1204
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,840
Watch a show.

1205
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,160
Don't stretch yourself too thin.

1206
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:10,560
Plastic man here reminding you that the next time you land somebody a helping hand,

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be sure you get it back so long.

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(shuddering)