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No, you press through, you persevere, and you actually get to use this in your story

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later to encourage other people and give them hope when they think their moment, their

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Hello world, this is Just Being Intentional with Thomas Harris.

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I am your host Thomas Harris.

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Thank you for being with us today.

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Welcome to the show.

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First thing I would like for you to do for us is to like, subscribe, comment, please

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on our YouTube channel.

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That will help us get some feedback on what we are doing here.

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So I greatly appreciate your feedback.

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Today we are going to do something a little bit different.

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We are going to sit down with my lovely producer Stewart White and Stewart, tell us what we are

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going to be doing today brother.

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We are going to talk about a recap on shows we have done, people you have interviewed

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and what you have learned from that, what the feedback has been, and also just talk about

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some of your favorite moments on those episodes.

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So I am excited about it because we have gotten to get some really good guests.

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I don't know many podcasts just starting out that get to get the kind of guests that

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you have gotten so far.

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We can chalk that up to

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We did a recording before just two of us, we haven't released that yet.

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It's on the shelf right now, but that's good material as well.

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But we wanted to do this little recap here to just talk about the episodes that we have

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So let's do it.

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Well, so I wanted to ask you a couple questions.

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So let's go in reverse order actually.

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I feel like our most recent episode where you interviewed Andy Erwin, Andrew Erwin, and

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for those of you who haven't watched or listened to that episode or don't know who Andy is,

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Andy works for Kingdom Story Company.

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He's the founder of it.

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He's the CEO.

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He has produced, directed some of the biggest, faith-based movies that are out there.

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And they're really like one of the few out there who are making faith-based movies that

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for lack of a better way of putting it, don't suck.

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They don't just not suck.

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They actually are really, really good.

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We went as a church to see the latest one from Kingdom Story on Sun Hero.

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And I told Andy in the interview that I was pleasantly surprised.

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I knew it wasn't going to suck, but it greatly exceeded my expectation that I'm sitting

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in the theater just misty.

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I don't know if it was like pollen in the theater or anything.

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Yeah, it's probably just allergies.

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Yeah, but I was definitely suffering some eye leakage, if you will.

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So I would highly recommend people go on to see on Sun Hero and have the pleasure of meeting

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some of the small-bone family who are the stars of the film.

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So yeah, go see it.

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Yeah, for those of you who don't know too, the small-bone family, their music family here

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in Nashville, originally from Australia, you find that out in the movie.

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But Rebecca St. James is the oldest sister in the movie.

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And she is still a Christian artist, but she got her start back in the 90s.

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I remember her.

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I think I went to like half a dozen of her concerts, you know, because she would be,

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she was kind of ubiquitous.

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She was at all of these places all the time.

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And she kind of came along along the same time that like a Lannis Morse had her big breakout.

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her before.

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She's like, maybe she's been on the radio when I walked through somewhere.

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portray in the movie.

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And actually one of them plays the dad in the movie.

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So it was good.

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And in that interview, there were some really great moments.

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I think for one, you love movies, you love cinema.

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Like he knows all these like nerdy factoids that he can geek out on.

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I mean, I'm a, I'm a, I consider myself a movie buff.

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But Andy, Andy took me to school in now.

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We got a much greater, you know, understanding of the film industry.

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He shared about how the Star Wars school screen was just even became a thing.

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the Star Wars, you know, right.

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So go back and check that episode out and check out the YouTube clips too because you can

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a lot because, you know, the connection with film, you know, I have, I have a script that

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what, what, how much more work I need to do on those.

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So that's been incredibly helpful.

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But I wanted to make sure that I, you know, if I was going to do this thing, I was going

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to invite him as guests and he said his words were, I'll jump on your show in a heartbeat

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if that's what you're doing.

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I thought that went to smooth this.

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initially, that's the one.

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Well, something, one of the early episodes, actually, the interview with Eves, Eves,

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Kachuela, he was somebody you were connected to because of MVP, which is merging vets and

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players, right?

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We think, you know, they're talking about getting a chapter started out in Nashville, which is

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where we're based.

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So that'll be really cool.

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I'm sure you'll have a big part in that.

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But Eves story and his experience in his life was heartbreaking.

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It was inspiring, but him going through the suffering that he had been through and just

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the fact that his story and we should say at this point, just trigger warning, this

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episode talks about suicide.

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But he tried to shoot himself with his own gun twice with two different bullets, two rounds

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that neither one went off and he showed them to us, right?

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That was like what?

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And so like seeing the dimples on the primer on the back and neither one of these went off,

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like statistically, the probability of two in a row, not working, even one is absurd.

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But what were your thoughts on that actually?

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You probably have a better shot at Russian Relay, you know, than that, you know, just two shots,

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like that's not supposed to happen.

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Unfortunately, it doesn't pan out the same way for others that are attempting to take their

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Very grateful to have met Eves and got to know him, you know, unfortunate tragedy losing

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one of his twins.

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He's been through a lot, you know, you know, for some of my peers that have gone through

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war and also had to come back and then continue to face those traumas of trying to fit in, you

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know, it makes continuing on that much more difficult.

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I'm just trying to do my part to continue to build on community here, out here in the

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Nashville area, putting a lot of work into getting something going on with MVP here.

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And I get feedback from the decision makers of MVP and they know I'm the front runner

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out here and, you know, just something I'm passionate about.

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So I want to see us continue to succeed.

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It's not about me, it's about what the mission is and I'm just trying to be a tool to help

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further that mission.

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And I was just told that recently that MVP is now going to be recognized as a charity in

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Nashville.

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So that's a huge big step and I got a couple of events coming up that I'm going to attend

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myself to shake some hands and hopefully get my hands in some people's pockets, you know,

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so that's what we need.

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We need funding for that.

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Speaking of Eves, I wanted to just make mention that there is a GoFundMe page for his daughter,

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Kaya, and we'll put that link in there.

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It's in the first episode as mentioned, the GoFundMe page, but I wanted to, you know, keep

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the awareness up on that and see how people can jump in and help them with their medical

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and funeral expenses.

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We've seen a few people contribute to that and it's huge, you know, he lost his twin daughter

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who was born with all these complications and it's just one of those heartbreaking things,

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but if we can help alleviate the cost and the expense on that and give him some hope

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and see that, hey, there are people out there who really care, who may not even know you,

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but they just have a heart for you.

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That's a big deal.

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The Nate Boyer interview, I thought that was really cool.

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Like tell us about who he is.

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You kind of, this kind of leads into it because of MVP.

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Yeah, Hollywood Nate started calling Hollywood Nate because he's big time now.

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Yeah, there was a time where Nate was starting to grow in a little bit of popularity.

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As I, trying to tie you down for a second before you go to Hollywood on me, but fortunately

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we've kept in touch and we check in because of mostly because what I'm doing out here for

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So I keep them in the loop of all the efforts that I'm making as well as the executive in

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the program.

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I was so honored to meet Nate and to see his passion for helping our veterans and also

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linking in the athletes.

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That's part of the program is linking up the veterans and the athletes.

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And I'm very fortunate that I get to continue to have a relationship with Nate and he's a great

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He's a humble dude.

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We're going to keep working together.

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And if you haven't seen his movie MVP, the movie, that was a great story as well.

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And I thought he did a great job with the shoestring budget that he had for the amount

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of money that was put into it.

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It was really done really well.

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So I'm proud of him for not only producing and directing, but his acting.

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He showed he has some acting skills as well.

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But yeah, Nate is doing a lot of things.

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A lot of things.

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And I'm just glad I get to keep knowing him and keep growing this thing called MVP.

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It's always cool to see what a good story can do.

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Like if you're decent at acting and you have a good story, you can make a good movie.

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You don't have to have this millions and millions of dollars of budget.

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And that's what they had.

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They had a strong story and he told it well.

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He acted it well.

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And he got people behind it.

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Some big name actors to start it.

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So that was pretty.

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And so Vestor Stallone.

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So Vestor Stallone.

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I had the pleasure of meeting him.

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Who is that again?

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I've never heard of him.

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He seems like a nobody.

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He was in a movie called Rocky, I think.

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Oh, is that what it was?

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Was he the Russian guy in that?

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Stallone actually wrote this script for Rocky.

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His story.

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It's kind of that.

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He is sort of the Rocky of cinema, if you will.

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His whole story.

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He's not tall though.

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No, he's not.

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That's so funny.

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Most of these action hero guys are not very tall.

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Last week, there was an actor that I met.

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Same guy like you've been around acting for a long time, but not tall.

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It's just like the common thing.

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It's like all the women, six foot four, all the men, five, two.

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They're just super short.

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I don't know what it is about Hollywood.

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Good thing they have special effects.

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Let's talk about kind of where we want to go in the future with the podcast.

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We have some guests.

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We can kind of allude to who some of those are, some people.

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Some maybe aren't locked in, but we're working on them.

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You want to share a little about that?

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So one of the biggest challenges is the scheduling.

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Got Stuart White schedule.

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I got my schedule and in the potential guest schedule.

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Just trying to link all those schedules together.

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I got a bunch of verbal yeses, just matter of tying people down.

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Some people are like, I'll be available in a couple months, but really powerful stories,

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great interviews.

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But there are some people I really, really thought would be great as a guest.

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Some people would love to listen to.

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People like Andrew Irwin and Nate Boyer.

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Then some people that are not well known, but have a great story to share.

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We're going to keep moving with that and I'm excited.

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I think there's a couple of ones that I'm hoping, and maybe we won't drop any names right

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now, but we've got some people in the music business with amazing stories.

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And currently, even still playing out how those stories will look, you've talked about

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a few different people who have gone through some of the cancel culture stuff to do with

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not saying the right words about the thing at the time and getting completely dethroned

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from their role or their job.

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And then now it's like, oh, they weren't, they were right actually and everyone else is wrong.

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So some stuff like that, but all of this under that umbrella of intentionality and intentional

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to speak the truth, intentional to tell the truth after the fact.

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And then even like being intentional with not holding a grudge and being intentional

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with making amends, being intentional with all that stuff.

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There's a lot of ways that intentionality comes in.

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And we've talked about this too, as like describing the show to people, like, okay, so what being

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intentional for what reason?

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And really trying to say, could you be intentional to do a bad thing?

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Right.

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But obviously that's not what the show is about.

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But intentionality really, like I find it coming up all the time now, it's like when you

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you see a cyber truck for the first time or something and then every now it's like, I see

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them everywhere.

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Right.

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So you're refrigerator down and put four wheels on it, push it or that's a cyber truck.

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Crazy.

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Yeah, that, you know, since I started, since we started doing this, I've been hearing the

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word intention or intentional intentionality has come up a lot more often since, since we

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started to do in this.

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Even in conversations with people, I hear them say it and it's just kind of the light bulb

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goes off and like, yeah, I'm like, I was really supposed to do this, you know, and just

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meeting you was like being intentional about meeting someone and then asking them what they

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do.

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And then they say, oh, my wife and I, we help people with podcasts and it's like, oh, okay,

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it was supposed to happen.

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It was meant to be.

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And that's one of the things you find out when you're being intentional is like, there's

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things that are meant to be.

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But how do you know that if you're not doing what you're supposed to be doing?

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Right.

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And to intuitively know those things we were supposed to do, we just, we, some of us are

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not self-starred, self-starred with that.

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And sometimes we need a good swift kick in the pants to get us going.

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And we should encourage one another with this whole thought process to propel people forward.

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And not just keep it for yourself because I mean, I don't know how you feel, but it's

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not fun for me to be successful by myself.

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I want to bring others along to share and celebrate your successes.

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Yeah.

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It's like having all the money in the world and nothing to spend it on and knowing to enjoy

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it with.

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It's just not the same.

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Yeah.

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Unless you're like Mr. Burns or something like that in the sense it's, but okay.

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So I'm thinking about where we're headed in the next.

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I mean, we're moving into the summer, but I'm already thinking of the fall, you know,

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and right now we're working on getting 10 to 12 episodes, you know, finished here.

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And then that's kind of our first season at least.

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And then rolling into more things.

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But we've been talking about this idea of sponsorship with people and figuring out like how can,

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how can we make this show self-fund, if you will?

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Like, it's not about making millions.

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Like Mr. Burns again.

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It's really just about being able to afford to keep making a show that if it's blessing you,

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if you're finding it encouraging, if it's helped you in any way.

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And I know there are those listening who are like, oh, yeah, I guess I never really thought

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about that.

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But where are you at with that?

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Who have you spoken to and what has kind of been the feedback you've heard from people?

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First off, I mean, it's very encouraging to hear the feedback from folks that have listened

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to the show and subscribe.

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I mean, it's not a ton of subscribers, but it's all the platforms.

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So I really don't know how many people have heard it.

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But I hear random people all the time that say, oh, yeah, I checked out your show.

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I'm like, oh, you heard about it.

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Like, you don't know who's paying attention, you know, you have to be intentional about

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subscribing or liking or sending comments.

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But for those that are not, which is most people, they're at least listening.

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And then I have those times where someone gives some feedback.

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So I know I'm going to say, I'm just going to start us out there.

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I don't think the show sucks.

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Yeah, I don't think it does.

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Because I think after every episode, I feel a little bit better about it and I feel more

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comfortable.

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And those of you have heard the first one, which is probably the most people, at least on

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YouTube, they watched that one.

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That was the hardest one because it was the first one.

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And I was the most vulnerable and to have a bright light in the camera in your face, it

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was very intimidating.

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And I got through it and I wanted to keep going.

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I just feel like this is something I'm supposed to do.

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And I'm not looking at being a Joe Rogan level or Sean Ryan level, but being intentional

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about because it's something I'm passionate about and something that I've been assigned to

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do.

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And there are other things I need to do to bring more awareness to the show.

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We talked about that, some social media stuff, so I'll be doing that.

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But as far as the sponsorship side, I'm still learning this thing.

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I'm just trying not to mess it up too bad with my voice and my speech and the words I deliver.

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But just getting people on the show that I think are going to be important enough for people

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to know about and sharing their story.

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So I don't know.

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There's a lot to it.

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We will end the season at the 10 or 12 we talked about.

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And I'm trying to just continue to nail down the schedules with those that I've already asked.

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I got verbal confirmation.

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But so far, I think we've got some really good guess for the show.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, and I think something we've discussed a little bit.

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And we'll maybe begin to introduce is adding a Patreon type funding where if you enjoy

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the show, you can sponsor it for like five or ten bucks a month or whatever.

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And with that, you'll get special access or a million, whatever.

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You know, if you have that kind of money, you'll be wanting around.

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One million dollars.

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Yeah.

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One million.

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Then that would also give you bonus material, like these types of episodes where it's the

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follow up and that kind of thing.

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We may end up having that be something only for subscribers.

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And that's just stuff we're kicking around also seeking people who are like, hey, I really

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like what you're doing.

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I want to advertise my book or those sorts of things.

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I know there are people out there.

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And then I've experienced this with my own podcast too.

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Guests start reaching out to you.

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And sadly, for mine anyway, I would say 90% of the guests or people I would never want

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to interview because I'm like, I don't think you've even listened to this show because

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if you had, you would know, right, this is not your venue to go to.

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And who knows what else you could lead to?

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You know, I mean, I'm an optimist.

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I think I look at the big picture.

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I'm always looking at, wow, there's that horizon.

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There's some greatness on that horizon.

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I just had to keep going on the journey until I reached that point that I'm journeying to.

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But to help from the audience, word of mouth, all those things will help us to get to somewhere.

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We haven't even explored.

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But I'm open to all the possibilities of doing something great with this thing.

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All right.

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So here's one that I think some people are interested in.

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Have you thought about writing a book that kind of tells your story and talks about intentionality,

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flipping this idea with more detail than perhaps we can go into in any one episode?

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Yes.

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Actually, I thought about writing a book years ago, but I felt like I wasn't ready at the

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time.

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I felt like there was some more work to be done before I get to that point.

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But I always had this idea that I'm going to write a book about my life.

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I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I can see if you will.

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But I've done a lot.

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I've experienced a lot.

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And there's a lot that I haven't even told in that first episode.

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There's a whole lot more to the story that I didn't share.

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But it's who I am.

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It's what made me who I am.

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The good and the bad, I embrace both because that's part of how my story was written.

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So I'm a firm believer in the idea that all of our lives, the stories have been written

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already.

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So the only thing I'm doing is narrating what's already been written in real time.

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So I'm just big on that.

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And I think my story is interesting enough.

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Even though at one time when I was younger, I didn't think that it was interesting at all.

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But now that I'm older and I've paid more attention, we have the beauty of hindsight to

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see if this didn't happen, then that wouldn't happen.

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Right.

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And none of it was wasted.

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People often give up at the points where it seems it's hardest at that moment.

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And you're a testimony to the fact that no, you press through, you persevere, and you actually

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get to use this in your story later to encourage other people and give them hope when they think

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their moment, their life is at its darkest point or something.

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And I appreciate that because that really I think is kind of the power behind what you're

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really saying with just be intentional.

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Like be intentional to not waste those moments.

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Don't waste your life.

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Don't let it fly by and think about where you want to go, where you want to be, and aim

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for that.

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Aim for something.

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And if you have this history of struggles of suffering or any of these things, those can

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be redeemed.

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Those can be used to provide so much more power behind your story now.

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And I think that's something too in your life.

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In the short time we've known each other, I've watched you, you've got a daughter who's

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getting engaged.

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You've got, she's engaged.

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Who is engaged?

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Sorry, I get married.

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49 days.

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49 days.

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No one's counting that, right?

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And you've got this thing where you're working and you're helping veterans and you've got

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all these things.

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I'm like, man, this is really cool.

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But if you had looked at your life 20, 30 years ago, you might have been like, well, this

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guy's not going to go, nothing will happen for this guy.

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Right.

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I think a lot of the times I'm being intentional, I don't even realize that I'm being intentional

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because it's become such a practice of mine.

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Like, these are things I need to be doing.

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And this is the things I was, I was wired to do.

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I was built to do these things.

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Not perfectly.

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You know, there's, there's a lot of stuff I still need to work on.

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And that comes with being a husband and a dad, you know, the work never stops.

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And for the other things that God has created me to be, you know, when I'm actively participating

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in those things, it's just, it's just automatic.

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It's just like I'm on autopilot.

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And it just feels good when you're living a life of purpose.

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And that's through that, you're being intentional when you're living a life of purpose.

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When you know that you were created to do something, when you recognize that I've been given

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gifts and I need to actively, you know, work out those gifts.

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You don't get gifts to just keep them to yourself.

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Gifts are, they're meant to share, you know, the Bible talks about it.

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You know, some people have the gifts, the gift of hospitality.

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I think that's my wife.

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Sometimes I think she does too much when she's hosting.

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Like, that's, that's not important, but it is to her, you know, to me is not.

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Because like you're doing too much, but that's her gift.

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It's not mine, you know, and I try to just continue to, you know, do what I know to do.

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Yeah, that's awesome, man.

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Well, we're kind of coming full circle there.

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We've hit on the shows you've done and everything and where your life started, kind of the very

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first episode and now where you are.

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What do you have to say to our listeners as we're closing out here?

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Yeah, obviously the topic of suicide is, you know, it hits home for me, not only because

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my dad, but because of our veterans.

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And I've been connecting with some people that can share their stories about, you know, dealing

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00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:13,280
with suicide, you know, family members or veterans in general because it's such a, such

476
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a heavy topic.

477
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So I want to continue to do some work in Adirina and keep connecting with people.

478
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I'm looking to connect with the woman who lost her son at the age of 20.

479
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She was a, he was a, in the military and so we're going to talk.

480
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So I want to keep doing that.

481
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,880
Also on the storytelling side, I still want to write stories.

482
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,680
I like the idea of writing a book.

483
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,840
That's a great idea.

484
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,360
I mean, it was already something on my mind for the future and, you know, the future could

485
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be today.

486
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,360
Yeah.

487
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,360
Who knows?

488
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,360
Future starts now.

489
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Yeah.

490
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Just doing this and, you know, I want to shout out to my mom because I was just thinking

491
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of just because we're talking about past episodes touching on the topic of abortion and that, you

492
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,280
know, my wife, not my wife, my mom, edge that out.

493
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My mom, who made the brave decision as a 16 year old to go on and do the right thing and

494
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,920
have her child, even though she was going to struggle.

495
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:23,360
So big thanks to her for bringing me into this world when she knew her life was going to

496
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,920
be hard.

497
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,960
So without her, I wouldn't be here.

498
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So I wanted to make sure I touched on that.

499
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The importance of that, like I was given life and it asked to be here like anybody else.

500
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But since I'm here, I'm as well do something that's productive.

501
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,040
Mm-hmm.

502
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,040
That about sums it up.

503
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,040
I mean, this has been a great chat.

504
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:47,560
We try to sit down and do these things every couple of episodes, two to three.

505
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,800
Maybe we'll do it more often.

506
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,160
Maybe we'll get the Patreon and the support stuff going.

507
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:57,520
But for those listening now, if you want to help support the show, really the biggest thing

508
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,600
you can do is what Thomas said in the beginning.

509
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,720
If you can like, if you can subscribe, if you can share it, you can leave a review, leave

510
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,800
a comment, any of those things on whatever platform you're listening on.

511
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,840
And then, you know, share it on your social media stuff.

512
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,960
If you're like, hey, this show really touched my life in some way.

513
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,200
You know, share that, tell people.

514
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,200
That's one of the biggest things.

515
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,720
You know, we have it on YouTube and we have just the regular podcast audio version.

516
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:27,040
And YouTube kind of has its own natural built-in marketing a little bit.

517
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,320
But podcasts really audio wise don't.

518
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,560
They don't have like this medium to reach people based on their likes and their interests

519
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,560
and stuff as much.

520
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,560
You know?

521
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,800
It's more organic on discovery.

522
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,760
So unless you're running ads or something on it, you're not going to get discovered right

523
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,760
away.

524
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,560
And, you know, unless somebody like huge, like Elon Musk tweets about it or something

525
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,560
like that.

526
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,680
Maybe we'll be intentional and try and get them to tweet about it.

527
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,960
But Elon, what's up brother?

528
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,960
Hit us up.

529
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,960
Yeah.

530
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,280
We'll just, we'll hashtag the heck out of this episode.

531
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:06,000
Maybe we'll get somebody's Tesla and drive up and say introduce a show through a Tesla.

532
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,000
Yeah.

533
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,040
All right, folks, we appreciate you listening and we greatly appreciate your support.

534
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,920
Please remember to like, subscribe, follow, leave some comments, reviews, all that good

535
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,920
stuff.

536
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:24,000
We appreciate it and love that you took the time to listen to us and just want to ask

537
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,800
that God continues to bless you.

538
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And until next time, Adios.

539
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