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Hi!

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How are you?

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How's it feel to be a twin?

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I've always wanted to be a twin and have twins.

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Yeah.

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Well the best thing about a twin is that you have your own language.

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You trust each other more than anybody that you know.

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Another thing is that, you know, in our language,

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we can make our each other laugh so hard.

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We just start crying.

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Oh!

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Is one of you funnier than the other?

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Depends on the topic, right?

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Depends on the topic, I love it.

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When you both were glasses, same prescription?

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No.

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He is better eyesight than I do.

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Better eyesight.

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But don't worry, I'm the target.

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But I look at tiny bit.

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So...

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[laughs]

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Welcome to Inside Hopkins.

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I am your host, Dr. Rhoda Meary-Pury Reed.

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I am very excited to dive into today's topic with some amazing guests.

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We will be discussing a transformative program in Hopkins Public Schools, Transition Plus.

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This program is operated in collaboration with St. Louis Park Public Schools,

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and is designed to support young adults with disabilities as they navigate the path from high school to adulthood.

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T+ isn't just about academics.

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It's about real life readiness.

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The program helps students develop essential skills in employment, independent living,

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community participation, and post-secondary planning.

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Alena Martin has been the Transition Plus Coordinator for St. Louis Park and Hopkins Public Schools for three years now.

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Prior to her current role, she worked as a special education teacher in high school, which high school?

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Most of my experiences at St. Louis Park High School.

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Awesome.

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Alena is also the Unified Special Olympics liaison.

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Welcome to Inside Hopkins, Alena.

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Thank you.

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Fonda Contreras has been the Director of Special Services for Hopkins Public Schools since 2018.

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With a strong background in both general and special education, Fonda holds a master's degree in special education,

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and an education specialist degree, and is working on her doctorate, future doctor contraris.

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Welcome to Inside Hopkins, Fonda.

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Thank you. Glad to be here.

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James and Jacob Martinez are two of our amazing T+ students.

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They are both involved in pathways classes at Hennepin Technical College in partnership with the T+ program.

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James is interested in the automotive industry, and hopes to become a mechanic.

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Jacob is interested in design with hopes of becoming a graphic designer.

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Jacob also recently designed a transition plus logo.

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Welcome to Inside Hopkins, Jacob and James.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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So we'll start with you, Alena.

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T+ serves young adults ages 18 to 22.

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Can you talk about why it's important to have a program that extends up to age 22 within a public school district?

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Yeah, I think having a program like this is super important, especially for our students with disabilities,

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and figuring out what's the next step into adult life when they're coming out of high school.

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So many students don't know what they're going to do after high school,

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and navigating that question while also having a disability adds another layer of needed support.

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And so I always like to call T+ as kind of a bridge between high school and adult life.

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And so we're kind of the support, the bridge that is going to get our students from high school into the job

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or whatever they like to do as adults.

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And so I think it's a great program for students to practice those skills that will get them to that next step.

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And there's a lot of adults that are here to help them along the way.

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So it's a really awesome program for 18 to 22-year-olds.

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We'll find this program is not only the right thing to do for students, but it is the law.

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Can you provide us with a little bit of history on special education law in this country

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and kind of what are we accountable to providing for students who have individualized education plans?

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we are held responsible for making sure we provide services from birth to age 22 for students that qualify for services.

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And the services look different for different students.

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We are obligated as a public school district to provide what's called a free and appropriate education or a fate.

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And so what that looks like is students qualify for services within our district.

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It could be private schools, daycare, home schools, all of the above.

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And we look to the evaluations and then we look at IEPs.

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And those IEPs cover individual education plans, cover students' needs.

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And again, it could look different for everyone.

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Here at T-Plus, there's kind of three levels of support from students that are out in the community.

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And so students work on those IEP goals as it relates to transition year,

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which could include functional skills, as well as vocational, our work pathways,

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whatever it is that they need per their plan, that's going to help them be successful at this stage of life.

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And so we have wonderful staff that are here to support the students.

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This is the stage where they have a lot of input on to what their plan looks like.

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So I'm very proud to be here with these special folks today.

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Thank you for that, Fonda.

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So James and Jacob, can you walk us through a typical day at T-Plus?

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920. It's really chill in the main room.

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And you get to see everyone having breakfast, chilling out.

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And then once it gets to 940, everyone goes for their classes.

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And depending on what class you got to go for, you go for it.

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Some students will go to class here at T-Plus.

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Can you explain what the HTC is?

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They have a campus site over at Hanupin Technical College in Eden Prairie.

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And so they provide some vocational classes for students that are that partner with the consortium of 287.

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We have classes that students can take such as culinary arts, automotive technology,

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CNA, certified nursing assistant, the level two courses.

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So James and Jacob are both in automotive technology, which is a level two course.

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If you get a B or an A in a course like that, you can get articulated college credit.

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If you, if they continued on at HTC either campus or at Normandale, they'll accept that articulated credit as well.

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And so it's a really good opportunity for students to, if they find an area that they're interested and are doing well in.

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They can take that and keep going on with that career pathway.

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is this a class where there are students of varying ability levels?

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Like, is it general education students, special education students?

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It's both, honestly, because there's some people who are more better with just skills a little bit.

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But there's also skills like me or like so on that. There's a half so much, but everyone's in class together.

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So it's a broad range.

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Awesome. So you get to learn with and through each other in the class.

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Schools that are part of the consortium with 287 can send high school students as well,

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Gen Ed students. And so it's a combination of students at transition programs,

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high school, some students at IEPs. That's awesome. All in class together.

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So a big age range, big knowledge range, skill range.

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So there's lots of opportunities for you all as peers to build each other's skill sets,

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depending on what everybody's good at. That's cool.

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Okay. And James.

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just in case you didn't catch the banter before the interview, we're talking with twins.

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And to me, they look very much alike. So Jacob is sitting to my left and James is to my right.

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So, okay, James. So what are you doing at 940?

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So I do very similarly to what Jacob does.

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I go into the bus that takes everybody to kind of a technical college.

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I go to my auto tech class and everybody in the class learns about what the teacher lectures about.

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What we do on cars and slip it that so a little bit of some paperwork, some notes sometimes,

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sometimes the entire class is mainly just working on cars. So a lot of hands on work.

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And then after when class is done, I usually get back on to the bus that takes me back to T plus.

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And then I usually go home. But if there's a class right after hand with technical college,

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I usually go to that class. I have a rec and leisure class. So I would go in there and we would go and see what's all about what Tom is planned for the day for us.

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The class is always doing something cool and interesting. They went skiing at Highland Hills this year.

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They've ended the got three a couple times. Tom gets free tickets for students to go to plays there.

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That's cool. Go to museums. You guys have fun to practice kind of shopping skills, activities at different malls around the area.

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What else have you guys done?

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Many falls looking on how beautiful it is out there during the season. So like we go there during the fall, you know,

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everything is starting to get colder. The waterfalls look a little different than it would be like in another season.

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So throughout the seasons we would go like fall, sometimes winter.

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It's a really cool class because a lot of our students and maybe you guys are the exception because you guys do things together.

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It sounds like but it's an opportunity to kind of participate in the community a bit.

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Sometimes it's hard for our students to get out and be active members in their community due to things like constraints with being able to get there.

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Transprication. It's an opportunity for students to work on social skills that are part of their IEP.

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Things authentic learning experiences outside of our building.

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So like what are the hills and valleys here at transition plus like what are the things that bring you the most joy that might be a hill and then what are some of the challenges or barriers or difficulties that you have faced or that other students face and that might be more of a valley.

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One up I really like is going fishing for like you know the wreck and leisure that's really fun to do and to also teach some people and just like to learn as well of like different things that we go for.

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So you like you enjoy the different learning experiences that are afforded kind of out there in the world beyond the walls of T plus.

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Yes. Awesome.

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My ups for T plus is you know me first coming over here.

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It was a new experience.

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I didn't know how everything was like but I was ready to learn you know I was ready to see what they offer and what I really liked is that they're really outgoing and that they.

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Really are supportive and help a lot if you're struggling with something in that they teach you things that are very helpful.

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So it sounds like you went through a transition period where you had a lot of uncertainty but that evolved into like you feeling really comfortable and supported.

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Okay that's really cool.

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I'm glad to hear that.

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What has been challenging for you Jacob?

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I think what has been challenging is just with the new classes I've been going for and I'm thankful that you know the teacher I have at T plus Zach has been helping me go through these challenges with you know homework and just like studying for something because you know auto tech is not easy you know.

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Right. So I think Jacob I heard you say that the auto class is rigorous like it's there's a lot of complexity it's very technical.

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There might be a lot of like technical vocabulary you're like probably putting together engines and all these other components of cars that personally I don't understand so like you're kind of speaking my language but you've been grateful for the academic support.

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So Fonda let's turn it to you when you think about building a very high quality transition plus program what are some of the things you look for in the program features in staff I mean both of these young men are talking about the value add that their instructors have provided during their time here what are what are some of the components of high quality T plus programs.

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So I think it's in collaboration with Dr. Constance Robinson was the director for St. Louis Park schools the director special services but I think making sure that staff are dedicated to the work because it's very unique program it's not a school setting per say it's program and then making sure that we can meet the needs of each of the students here and it's varied.

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So that requires staff to kind of coalesce 50 plus IEPs between 50 and 60 IEPs all of the goals and objectives and try to like find interest as well and then it's like it's everything like what are those life skills that are going to catapult the students into their adult lives and so it's all of the things some students will end up connecting with the students.

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So connecting with additional services through the county as they'll need higher supports once they turn 22 and some students will leap into independence.

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Alana I understand that we have some valuable partnerships out there in the community and business world like done brothers Nordic matter and prism can you talk about the partnerships that are in place and how they benefit our students here at T plus absolutely yeah our community partners are super important part of our program they're the businesses that kind of give us that partnership for students to practice job skills.

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Outside of the building here it's an authentic job experience that it's gives our students an opportunity to practice those skills in a real world setting it's it's things that can go on their resume things they can talk about in a job interview in the future.

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You mentioned done brothers so that partnership has been around far longer than I've even worked in this district it goes back quite a while and we've had two students go over to done brothers usually two different students per day go over and work at done brothers as a part of a internship to our students have actually been hired on.

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Since since working there as a job site so two of our students now will work there after school a couple days a week which is really awesome we had we hadn't had that happen before last year yeah Ellie Swanson who you met and one of our students been Duncan who's one of our SLP students they're now employed work there without any job coaching after school it's super awesome matter is a nonprofit in St. Louis Park that we it's one of our main jobs sites we take a group over and they're super helpful.

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They pack up boxes of different items food items medical supplies things like that in those boxes of those needed items go to places that need them so our students love going to matter they know that what they're doing is helping other people while they're also building those important jobs skills.

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Yeah and prism is similar nonprofits of food shelf and I think they might have clothing there too it's in golden valley and then the other one that you mentioned was Nordic where those of you that live in Hopkins or St. Louis Park it's that it's a big business in St. Louis Park that make a cookware bakeware things like that and that is a paid job site so students are actually employees of Nordic where when they do that job site and those shifts they can be some students do them like a few days a week kind of

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just depends on the schedule and what's open what's available usually three students go over there at time all of our job sites have a job at least at one job coach I see okay.

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Well shout out to done brothers and Nordic where and prism and all of our other partners who are supporting T plus students we appreciate you.

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I would love to hear from you James and Jacob where do you see yourself in like five years what's your five years.

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What's your five year dream or goal Jacob so for me is to live independent and you know something I'm planning as well as to local James you know I hope I can find a really good fun job out there I mean of course I'm working at somewhere right now but I'm looking for something better.

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Thank you for sharing that Jacob what's your planner dream James after finishing up with T plus I'm hoping to

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further advance my knowledge and skills with auto tech so I'm hoping to get a degree in some sort in being an automatic and I'm hoping to be independent by myself living with potentially my brother and that I'm hoping to see what goes on after that.

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Awesome. Well this has been a really fun conversation I appreciate it so much getting to know each of you and thank you to Elena Martin for everything you do for transition plus thank you Fonda Contrars for everything you do to support Elena and to support all of our

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programs and Hopkins in St. Louis Park around what students with IEPs need and deserve and James and Jacob twins together forever.

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It was awesome to meet you and thanks for being part of Inside Hopkins.

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