The way that I like to think of it is imagine that either one of you died tomorrow, okay?
And didn't go to the light.
You've got to imagine each time you're talking to a ghost that it's like one of you.
So you treat them with real respect and then they can feel your intention and importantly
they can read your thoughts because ghosts have mental telepathy.
Oh.
Yeah.
I'm really in trouble in that case.
Hi, Cassie.
Hi, Caitlyn.
Hi, creepy people.
Creepy people.
No, but he can talk.
It's a difficulty.
We have a very special guest with us.
Here today would you like to introduce yourself?
Hello, my name is Katische.
Katische Haberfield.
I'm a soul therapist.
So what I do is I do spirit,
or at least my therapy and spiritual regression therapy.
Have you heard of either of those terms?
I don't think so.
Have you?
I think the first, not the latter.
I'm not going to say that I'm at all not legible on the subject.
It sounds very interesting.
We are all told to you ladies.
So this spirit,
the spirit,
the therapist part is that sometimes we can have entities attached to us without us knowing.
So ghosts,
extraterrestrial devices and negative entities like demons,
lower astral realm beings.
And so I help people by removing that energy from them.
And the first part is a spiritual regression therapist.
And you'd know this is path life regression therapy.
So how those into link is that when I take clients into sessions to see path lives,
I can tell if there's a ghost in there that next crossing over like so somebody may have been gone back to a path life.
And I'll say to them,
there are somebody standing to the left of you.
Who is it?
And they'll go,
oh,
oh my goodness.
And it'll be like a mother or an auntie or an uncle who died and didn't go to the light.
And they're still literally in this day and age,
2023, a ghost,
because when a ghost attaches to you,
they go through all time and all incarnations.
Wow.
So we cross, we cross them over.
Yeah.
So they can,
and they can have negative entities attached to them as well.
They can have demons attached to them.
So we cross all the entities over with the help of the Archangel's.
Yeah.
So that's how it's kind of a different spin and kind of thought you guys might be really interested in that.
Yes.
Absolutely.
And you're really interested in that.
Yeah.
But that's really wild that there can be so many layers to it.
That is definitely new information.
Like an onion.
It is like an onion.
Yes.
And just to add an extra thing,
which is, it's kind of weird,
but I've come to terms with it.
You in another lifetime can also be a ghost.
So some of the things that are,
yeah, really relevant for people who love ghosts,
because it's like what's drawing you to it?
Yeah.
What's drawing to it?
I've discovered in my own sessions where I hire somebody to help me.
I've gone, I didn't realize this was possible until I've gone back into a past life
of my own.
Looked at the trauma, healed the trauma,
I heard what they had to say, and gone,
oh, I'm stuck.
I haven't crossed over.
And then crossed myself over.
Oh my gosh.
That's intense.
It is intense.
And it's kind of like, well,
I was, because I was like, why am I drawn to this?
Why do I have this particular interest?
And it wasn't until I found not one,
but multiple, multiple lifetimes where I hadn't crossed over.
And we're still haunting the world.
And I was like, oh, this is possible.
This is interesting.
This is weird.
And so I understood then that I guess the real reason for the interest in that part of my business,
because it was like, why?
Why?
What's the relevance to, you know,
because I was doing past life regression for ages.
And it was like, I didn't have any of the ghost component.
I wasn't until I would do a session and I'd be like,
they're in my office.
I've just finished that session and they'd be like, we're here because, yes,
you saw the life, but you didn't see that you hadn't crossed us over.
And I was like, oh, this is the next level.
This is what people are missing in the therapy is that you need to cross the life over.
And you need to be aware that you can see the ghost.
So as soon as that started happening, boom, my life kind of imploded or exploded.
Whatever you want to expand imagine.
As you know, I don't need to go to a cemetery for ghosts to come to me.
Oh my goodness.
They're drawn to you then.
Yeah, absolutely.
Kind of like a magnet, which can be a good thing or a negative thing.
Yeah, you really have to be very careful with energy.
Because well, a lot of the little baby ghosts will just attach to you, you know,
because they can't speak.
They just go, and for me, it's a bodily reaction.
I'll feel it in my heart, my whole body jolt.
And I'm like, oh, okay, no, no, we don't do that.
It physically impacts my body.
And they're in my heart.
And I've got to cross them over.
Yeah, so it's a physical reaction on my YouTube channel.
And see an interview with a gentleman, his name was Dennis.
And I was sent to a cemetery.
It's a very long story, but a short cut.
I was sent to a cemetery by another ghost who had crossed over who then came back and has been like a guide to help me find other ghosts.
And he said, you have to go back to the cemetery where I was and find Dennis.
Except she didn't give me his name.
He just said, it's a guy there.
He's old.
He's very angry.
And he's got an initial D in it.
And I saw I walked around the cemetery and I'm like, okay, it's here.
And happened.
Dennis was his middle name.
He went by Dennis in his in his life, not his first name.
And he refused to cross over.
And as I was sort of like getting a little bit cranky, I'm not the world's most patient person.
You know,
me either.
I was just like, oh, no.
But lucky I had a client, a session with the client and she's very skilled.
She's also in the area.
And I just said to her, you've got to help me cross this spirit over.
And she crossed him over.
And we've captured on zoom.
And you can see it on the YouTube channel.
The moment when Dennis detaches and crosses to light because my whole body physically just takes a big wish backwards on camera.
As he crosses to the light.
So yeah, it's, yeah, it's very, very interesting.
Yeah, it did.
Yep.
That's her.
Oh gosh.
Yeah.
I was hoping you would say no.
Well, I guess it depends how sensitive you are.
Do you know what I mean?
For me, it hurts.
Yeah.
But it's not like it's a dream momentarily.
So they've gone to a good place.
So yeah, I guess, I guess there's that aspect that nobody talks about is that.
You know, if we are drawn to finding out about the paranormal, we have to be very aware of the fact that we can draw.
Goes to us and they can attach with that our knowledge.
Yeah.
Is there anything you can do to protect yourself against that?
Yeah.
So your first thing is your intention when you go, you know what I mean?
And because they are a total of mind streamer, right?
The way that I like to think of it is imagine that either one of you died tomorrow.
Okay.
And didn't go to the light.
You've got to imagine each time you're talking to a ghost that it's like, you know, one of you.
So you treat them with real respect and then they can feel your intention.
And importantly, they can read your thoughts because ghosts have mental telepathy.
I'm really in trouble in that case.
Yeah, mental telepathy is really important because they are only in mind, right?
And so they know what you're thinking.
They don't necessarily know that you know that they know.
But they can they're not there to do manipulation.
They're there to try and communicate with you.
Yeah.
And a lot of them, it's a surprise that they can understand what you're thinking.
Do you know what I mean?
And then it's that frustration that they're trying to then communicate with you.
And depending upon I guess who they are, what I found is that for a ghost to attach to you,
they've either got to see you as somebody that's similar to someone in their life when they died.
You look like they aren't either uncle their mom, their sister or you embody the same energy.
And that energy can be so Dennis was telling me the the army guy that the reason before he attached to me,
he had attached to another soldier.
So he was a soldier who went to war, was discharged early, came home was a very angry man.
And he just lived a normal life and died normally, but didn't cross over because of all the anger.
And when he was in a cemetery, he tried to live his life again through somebody else,
which was another soldier that walked past.
So he attached to him because it was the same this other soldier that was there was still angry,
you know, the war veterans, the poor fellows and ladies are very, very traumatized by the experience.
And so it was matching energy.
And so he he attached to that other soldier until that soldier died and then he didn't want to cross the light.
So then he was like there's these a theric ties.
So the theric ties send you back to where the most energy is, which is the grave, which is then where I came.
Yeah. And so he said to me that I reminded him of his wife.
Oh.
So it's kind of sweet.
It's kind of sweet. Yeah. So, you know, you learn a lot of energetic boundaries too.
So his people in the audio won't be able to.
So I wear a lot of little bracelets and the blackstone is obsidian.
Obsidian.
Yeah.
And obsidian is really good for energy protection.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I guess it's always just about sending you intention before you go anywhere.
So I'm being really open to communicating, but not being a source of refuge.
They call it refuge.
And I didn't realize that they called it refuge until I was listening to my so I use ghost tube now as well.
Okay.
The app.
Yeah.
And I kept getting the word refuge refuge.
And I thought that they were trying to tell me because I get two streams of infumation at once.
And I get the two streams of infumation.
Right. Well, sometimes we feel tension in our heads.
And we can feel angry in our head.
I see a picture of an angry person.
All right.
Well, let's imagine what would this angry person's name be?
And come up with a name.
All right.
And then you can then if you feel like it is a person, say, hey,
hey, my name is Caitlin.
Cassie and I feel a little bit of anger.
What's going on here?
And then they'll talk to you.
Especially if you have any clear.
So then you can explain to them and tell them that I don't belong to
anybody and release the light.
If you are one of my clients, you're in hypnosis.
Okay.
So you're in a very open, relaxed state.
And I will guide you to do a body scan.
And the body scan will identify hot patches or symbols or whatever.
And then I talk to them.
So you're in hypnosis.
And then I'll say, hi, my name is Katish.
Your some form of energy that's in Cassie's abdomen.
Have you ever had a human body?
And they'll say yes or no.
And if they say yes or say, darling, all right, my name is Katish.
And I'm here to help you.
I'm here to find out your story.
I know you're lonely.
I know that you've attached to Cassie.
Let me help you.
And then they'll probably say something like go away.
Or they might just, they might cry.
They might cry.
They might be a small child that's like, I'm lost.
And it's really, very, very emotional.
They will tell us, we find out their name, their age.
And we ask them, what years are you darling?
Are they the remember or they'll be like, come up with whatever year it is.
And we've had, we've had ghosts from BC.
Like a long time ago.
Yeah.
And then you find their story.
And basically what happens is that somewhere in your past,
whether this life or other lifetimes, you were a match to their energy.
And they were lost.
They died.
They were angry.
They were frustrated.
They were sad.
They felt guilt.
Or they thought they were a sinner.
They thought they were afraid of going to hell.
Or they had a terrible accident.
Or they were unable to see the light at the time of the death.
And they, it's like the way that I saw it in my own past life is it's kind of like you go to go up to the light.
And then this big blanket of dark cloud comes down and you just, you can't get past it.
There's no way through.
And that's, that's the emotion and the negative energy.
And that's why the, the humans who don't cross over, can't cross over because if they are surrounded by negative emotions at the time of the death, fear, shock, they're murdered.
You know, if they, they felt like their time was too short, they, they just come up against the wall.
If the, the emotions hold them back or, you know, even a loved one, if you have someone who die and you're absolutely desperate for them not to die.
And I saw actually a clip of this on Instagram the other day, a hospice worker.
She showed a video of somebody who was dying, putting their hands up to the light to go to the light.
And the child of this old lady, so the daughter, she didn't want her to go.
And so she started to cross over and it's the daughter's energy pulled her back.
And yeah, she didn't go to the light, she, she then gasped and restarted breathing again.
And then eventually crossed over.
But, you know, your energy, if you're really stuck to the attachment that you can't live without this person, you don't want them to go.
You don't want them to be there, they'll have to be over because your life will be terrible.
You'll never be the same again, you know, all these emotions.
They fear, they feel it, they know it.
And they will then think it's important for them to stay around to protect you.
And this is a false notion because anytime somebody doesn't go to the light, what happens is their soul doesn't finish healing.
They don't grieve their own life and then you can't complete your own grieving.
Whether or not they just float around and watch over you, or whether they then attach to you.
Most of the spirit of touch was I've had his family members, family pets.
They attached to you thinking falsely that they can protect you, they can help you.
And what happens is that they actually drain your life force energy.
So, yeah, you lose energy, become more tired.
You can actually even have facial changes, body changes.
Because what happens is your mind stream is then has absorbed their mind stream.
And you now have two sets of thoughts in your mind.
And they can then control your actions and try and steer you into a way of behaving according to what they want you to do.
And you're not aware of it.
Sometimes people have really chatty minds and they never feel like it's silent in their head.
I didn't realize this until after I did my own releasement and I was like, wow, it's really quiet.
Isn't this a big quiet up there?
Well, it's supposed to be you and your high self.
Yeah, so yeah, it can be very noisy.
Yeah, you know therapy.
Oh boy.
I'll send you some audio so you can listen to yourself.
And then are you good at you do meditate?
No, no.
You should try maybe.
I'll send you some audio and let's go through a meditation.
Have you guys met your spirit guides?
You know your spirit guides?
No.
Okay.
All right.
So spirit guides are really important.
A lot of people don't know the spirit guides, but you're already surrounded by spirit guides.
And you're always surrounded by your highest self.
Your highest self is the you of all times through through eternity.
So you're going to help guide you in life and protect you.
And in these meditations, I take you to meet your spirit guide.
And then your spirit guide will help you identify if there's any excess energy.
And then that will help you remove that energy.
Okay, that sounds great.
Are these for anybody to do or these special ones you're sending us?
I just usually keep them for clients.
Yeah, so, but I can create a link if you want so that people who listen to the podcast can download.
Totally up to you.
I mean, I'm going to check them out either way.
But if you'd like them to be shareable.
Yeah, I can make a separate page on my website or something and then people can who listen to this podcast.
If they're like, oh, let me check it out.
They can listen to the to the series of five meditations.
And then, you know, you may be able to release somebody or something or even an emotion yourself.
And if not, they can look me up and I can help them.
But yeah, it's something that we all need to learn to do ourselves to really just really be aware of our own energy.
And that I think that gives us confidence and life to deal with any of the situations that we encounter.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
So it's about knowing, knowing yourself, knowing your own thoughts and knowing that a lot of people don't understand that their own thoughts.
They absorb a lot of emotions and thoughts from other people from the environment and from the surroundings.
And so your thoughts aren't necessarily your own.
You're not your thoughts.
And it's about understanding what is my thought.
What is somebody else's thought and hang on that somebody else's thought.
Have I absorbed that from the environment or is that somebody actually cohabiting with me?
That's influencing my thoughts.
And a lot of people lift depression, lift anxiety.
I know for me, I had horrendous panic attacks.
And they were not my own thought.
I just thought that I was kind of like an e or kind of a person, you know, up and then down, up and then down.
But they weren't my own thoughts.
So it's actually really reassuring to know that once you know who you are, what your mind stream sounds like.
The fact that your mind stream is supposed to be positive and supporting.
And when you dip into this negative, you should easily be able to acknowledge that negativity and then move back to neutrality.
It's when you get this extreme either way that you're like,
"Why am I super, super excited about this? Like, why am I over the topic excited or why am I over the top sad?"
And we've spirit at least meant the over the top either way can be that the person who's attached to you, they died.
And this is something that they really, they want to do.
They didn't get to do this in their life.
Or the negativity would be maybe they were an addict, alcoholics or some kind of, they had struggled with negative emotions.
And if you start to see, for example, the you start drinking more out of nowhere or you're like,
"Really tempted to go try a certain type of drug that you would never have thought that you would do ever?"
It's like, "Well, let's check about that. Is that out of character for you? With somebody in your life go,
"That's irrational. That's illogical. There's no reason why I know you as a personality and you've never exhibited that before."
And that's where we can say, you know, sometimes people will look back and you'll say,
"There was this point in my life, in her life, she changed. I don't know what happened, but she wasn't the same American."
And that's where we can look and say two things.
One, did the personality, lit and fragment off because of a negative experience, which we can help heal.
Two, did she encounter something in the astral realms around her that then began influencing her thoughts?
And I think it helps us understand the mind so that we can really understand how to use it as a friend
and when there's some hints and clues there that are trying to scream out to us.
So my question would be, you mentioned kind of that effective, you know, an onion.
Is it possible to have somebody who, almost like an attachment that's passed down in like a redditary way?
Yes, not necessarily specifically that it's like your loved one when they pass, but I was really curious about that.
So basically, generally what you tend to find is that if there is somebody, if let's talk to genetic family, a lineage, right?
Maybe you're a great-grandmother. Maybe she was a psychic or a double-dinner or whatever she did.
Maybe she attracted a negative spirit or she had a family member who didn't cross over.
Generally, what's happened that I found is that when the spirit knows that your great-grandmother or a grandma is going to die,
they don't, they need to look for somebody else. They go to the next person in the family.
And so that's how it comes on.
Because remember, the whole point that the human being is a ghost in the first place is they're afraid.
That makes sense, yeah.
And so they're never going to get over this fear of death, are they? And if we look around a society, we've just had COVID, right?
The three years?
What is COVID? COVID is a virus of the fear of death.
What have we created? What is the world focus on for three years? We focus on our fear of death.
And what have we done? We've been scared of dying. We've been hysterical when somebody got COVID, because we were afraid they would die.
And so as long as humanity doesn't deal with the knowledge or as long as religion and dogma says, there is no eternal life.
As long as we say, it's rubbish. There's no such thing as eternal mind stream.
As long as people say, ghosts are fake. As long as they don't exist, that energy is real and can never be destroyed.
If they don't look at the quantum physics, quantum, all the quantum mechanics, if they don't look at string theory, they don't understand how it works from a scientific perspective.
Then if we're not acknowledging what is right in front of our face, how on earth can we tell our loved ones? It's okay.
I know you've had a lifetime. It's time to go. I'm really fond of you. I don't want you to go, but I know that you're going to be safe.
And there is another life waiting for you. Because you're in my family, probably we're going to hang around again.
If you want to hang around again. And you know, importantly, I don't think I know a single person who's ever told their family member on death.
Look for the light. Look for the light. It's going to be fun. Look for the angels. Look for whatever you believe in.
And they will protect you and help you transition. You know, so if we have this fear based narrative at death because we're afraid of hell, which doesn't exist, by the way, it's just the closest thing that we can describe as hell is where ghosts are in the astral realms and the lower astral realms.
Because hell is a concept that was created through religion to keep people in fear because the only appointed person that could speak to God was the priest.
Yeah. And so to keep people in line, they created the heaven and hell, right? And I cross over priests and nuns because they think even they were sinners and so they couldn't go to heaven.
Yeah. And so the paranormal activity that you and I we experience is because when the energy doesn't go to the light, return to source, whatever you want to call the creator doesn't return to the origination of that energy that it sticks around in the astral realms.
Okay. It's got nowhere to go. There's no body. They can't eat. They can't drink. Most of the time, they're not aware that they don't have a body anymore. So they still feel the pain of however they die. Right.
There's still no. Yeah. You talk to somebody who's had the head chopped off. They still feel the head, you know, or hung. I talked to them all the time. And I'm like, they're like, well, I'm tied up. And I'm like, no, no, no. I understand that's how you died in a prison cell and you're tied up.
And then you just look down at your feet and realize it's a hologram. Right. And now lift up and realize that you were just spiritual.
They're quite shocked. They're like, oh, I'm not actually bound. I thought I was bound. That would be a shocking realization.
Yeah. So until until I hold narrative about death and ghosts changes until we realize that these are actual people who are trapped because they were afraid.
We're still going to have ghosts, right? Because there's just so many people that are dying, believing that they might go to hell. And the hell is because there's this negative energy. Imagine there's a whole imagine in a room of people, all the people bar two people don't cross over.
And so it's like if you're in a negative classroom where there's a whole bunch of kids that are hate school, right? And these kids had had had a bad life, a bad experience.
Imagine that they go to die and they don't cross over and they're all stuck in the same room again. Do you expect it to be love and light in that room?
No, no. Conversations. The conversation's going to be pretty nasty, right? And so like a true attracts like and you get this negative energy.
You get them getting angry and angry and more and more afraid. There's no healing for them because they haven't gone to the light.
And so that then attracts in negative thought forms because we are what we create. And so you can create a being from your negative thoughts.
And that's what a lot of the stuff when we talk about demons and lower astral realm beings. It's thought form energy that has been created from our powerful human mind.
If you're afraid of the dark and you're afraid of demons, your mind can create a demon because you're giving energy to your manifesting into life a negative being.
Wow. Wow. That's crazy.
And don't want to.
So yeah, it's really that's why it's like that's where this whole concept of hell came from. And you know, Buddhism talks about low astral realm beings.
And it's it's human thought form from the from the beginning that said there had to be negativity and there had to be a hell and there had to be a sense of punishment.
So therefore human beings created an imaginary realm, which they called hell or you know, purgatory. And when somebody dies and they realize they've not died and they're floating around, they're like, well, I mean, purgatory.
I'm doomed and I say to them all the time, no, mate, you're not doomed. Here's the evidence of why you're not doomed because your eternal mind stream has sent out a beacon to me and we're having a conversation. So how can you be doomed?
You know, right.
Yeah, you make yourself a jaw ball.
Yeah. That's right. Yeah. That's the here's the here's the good news.
You know, there is help if you if you want it and the thing is that human beings we have free will right. Yeah. So they have free will at any time to cross the light.
And you know, sometimes they don't worry. You're like, okay, all right, we might have this conversation in five days, five years and we'll do a try again.
Man, so it's important concepts that understand about the sphere of death about the fact that ghosts are real, the energy that was a human being who was afraid or received a massive shock at death.
And we're going to continue to be have haunted places, haunted people, haunted things until we start educating the world that my eternal you've got so many wonderful lifetimes to experience.
And other one waiting for you and let's help people stopping afraid of dying so that we can stop having people missing the light and being afraid of what comes next.
I mean, it doesn't sound that hard.
It's not such a big ask. Great. Come on.
Yeah. Anyway, it's a big task. One person has a conversation to one child or you know, one person, you know, we all will go through life where you'll have somebody, Emily, you're family and it's about that reassuring or your friends reassuring to them that it's going to be okay.
And you know, irrespective of your beliefs and I'm not religious, but you can comfort somebody by the time that they're dying calling in an angel of transition, if they don't believe angels, the transition, just call in the white light.
And what you do is you help them get ready for death and help them know to look for the light.
Yeah. Because we've got plenty of ghost deal with let me tell you.
Honestly, it sounds like we're absolutely overrun. I know I can't go anywhere without this place is haunted.
Yeah. And it's because you know, because of this narrative.
I think don't quote me. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that for example, nothing against Catholics.
The Catholicism says that to divorce is a sin, right? Right. Yeah. So if we want to take that literally, if you get a divorce and I hate, I'm divorced.
If you get a divorce and you're a sinner, right? So imagine how many Catholics there are in the world that believe that they have to make their marriage null and void as though it never happened.
In order to miss going to hell, you know, if they don't say enough rosaries, how many are or whatever it is, they're also a sinner.
You know, so there's so many definitions that we have said in our lives, according to multiple different types of religions that cast upon a sin that these people who aren't sinners, you know, every day, no more people.
It's got to go to church once Sunday. Oops. I'm a sinner now. I can't go to heaven. Right. You know, that seems a bit rigged.
I feel like no one would be there. No one would be having. That's right. And you know, why would a creator of all things be punitive?
Why would they say I'm going to create human beings? And now I'm going to punish them forever. Like what kind of a stick? I would that be. It's beyond me. That would need a major overhaul.
Yeah. Sorry. I had a question. I was trying to remember what it was. I just take the moment. It's all good.
Oh, it was about the thought. What did you call forms? Thought forms. Yeah. So can you get rid of those? Or like, do you get rid of them in the same way you would a normal ghost?
Yeah. So we talked to the thought forms. So this is why I asked you if you meditate because if you go into a meditation and simply imagine that you are looking at yourself from above. Right.
So imagine, imagine yourself lying on the bed and then imagine that you are looking down on yourself or put yourself through a cat scan or whatever you want to imagine.
Or imagine you can draw a picture of a human body in your mind. And then you're simply asking you creating a device like create a pretend torch or pretend candlelight or pretend lightsaber if that's your thing and do a scan over the body.
And then you can then ask your own mind to find colors pictures symbols, words and bounds and then you direct your mind to like as if you have a telescope or a camera to move the zoom so you can zoom in on that.
And then you can ask yourself, hey, what's going on here? What's the matter? What's the emotion?
So because the emotions get stored in the body. So if we have a look at COVID again as an example, COVID was an illness that attacked the lungs, right.
Right.
We know lungs are where we store grief.
Okay.
So people.
Yeah. So people who have chest infections, bronchitis, lung cancer, any kind of a lung issue respiratory issue asthma,
group, there's grief there that needs to be processed and removed.
So grief can be grief from the loss of somebody in your family, grief from the way that you didn't live your life.
Grief for not living up to your expectations or somebody else's expectations can be grief from a marriage or a relationship ending pet dying anything.
And so if you find that you have continually re-encouring chest infections and lung infections, typically breathing, then doing a scan will be helpful to say,
what am I still holding on to?
What am I upset about?
What am I sad about?
What hasn't worked out the way I wanted to in life?
Where am I remorseful?
Where is this sadness coming from?
And it stores into your lungs.
And the way to get it out is to, in your mind, it's like, you know, I give you full permission to have an imaginary conversation with yourself, you know.
Create an inner child to talk to or a friend like a small child would talk to an imaginary friend.
Ask them, what's the problem?
And then imagine a green light.
The color green that I'm wearing now, just imagine a green light. Green is a very healing color.
And the archangel that's responsible for healing is Archangel Raphael. He has the green ray.
So in your mind, you then direct an imaginary green ray, green lightsaber to that place of emotion.
And imagine that this color is then absorbing the sadness.
And transmuting it, turning it into white light and then send it back to send it back to source.
That's how you do it.
That sounds very healing.
Yeah, it is very healing.
If you can't do that, wear a lot of green for a day or two, you know what I mean?
Or if you've got a lung infection, wear a green t-shirt, find some green stones to wear.
Green jewelry, you know, anything green that you put it on near that area.
That's why light therapy works because you can go into soreness now where they put light therapy on you.
You can choose the color green infrared green healing.
That's cool. I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Yeah. That's interesting.
We always have our lights colored too. So maybe we should set them to green once in a while.
Yeah, green.
Yeah. So yeah.
What does purple do?
Now I'm like, okay, maybe I need it.
It's like intuition, right? It helps you intuition.
It helps you intuition.
I know. We usually put on purple for whatever reason.
Yeah.
Yeah. So purple.
Yeah. Each color is aligned to the different track list.
So if you're going to do your research, I'm sure.
And calytherapy works was literally
absorbing the healing behind each color for a different part of the different part of the body.
That's why, you know, if you've got a message therapy therapist and they use crystal healing,
they'll place the right color crystal on the area because you're absorbing the energy of the stone,
as well as the color of the stone, but you can do it yourself.
You just need to learn the meanings behind the colors.
Have the intention that it's going to heal and then I will.
Self healing all starts from within.
Love that.
You want to know that?
I think you should take notes.
I'm already do.
Who are you talking to?
She's always taking notes.
I know.
I don't know.
But you know me writing it down is what helps me absorb it.
Right.
Me too.
Yeah. That's how I process as well.
Yep.
Totally with you.
Yeah.
Well, do you think we should do a terror reading?
You know, that'll be fun.
Yeah.
We should.
But here's the question is what's going to be the basis of our inquiry now?
Yeah.
Well, I really like the idea that you had with your other guests.
I think that's what I'm going to do.
Let me tell you.
The title is "I see you lost soul."
How helping souls return to the light helps overcome our fear of death.
Okay, so we just want a little insight on...
A little insight on this book that I've already forgotten the title of.
I wrote it down.
Yeah, I see you lost soul.
Let me see you lost soul.
I literally split the cards in this one spot and saw the one I wanted.
It's this one.
Okay.
We just got this one.
It's the five of swords.
Okay, tell me about the five of swords.
Let's take a look here.
We just got this one.
We always do this where we get the same card over and over.
Sometimes there's a little bit of...
It's like there's a message in it that...
I don't know if it's that we're not getting it or if it's like if there's repeating...
You're not getting it.
Yeah.
Do you tap the deck or use a clarity page on the essential oil on the deck after you use it to...
to clear the energy of the previous person?
It usually is cell at night, right?
Yeah.
That should be fine.
It could be a recurring thing that you're guessing to hear.
A lot of shuffling and I'm like when I'm thinking about shuffling, I'm kind of thinking about clearing the deck.
And then I do a couple more shuffles with what I'm thinking about polling.
I feel like it gets pretty clean.
Yeah.
So I just go with it.
It's the same energy, same thing that the people that you do if you need to hear.
This is interesting.
Okay.
Five of Swords key words are change, adjustment, loss, destruction, conflict, indecision and sadness.
I think this is like...
I mean just based on the key words, there's probably speaking to some of the themes in the book without having read it just yet since it's not yet released.
Helping souls crossover, like that is.
Yeah.
The number five.
Signifies change.
And this card shows a time of adjustment after a conflict of some kind.
Sometimes the fight stems from ideological or spiritual differences.
Interesting.
Okay.
I have to go.
Did you get the chili willies too?
Oh my goodness.
Oh, this is funny because you specifically talked about a soldier too, not necessarily in relation to the book, but the writer, wait, Smith, aquarium and some other decks show a soldier on the battlefield at the end of a fight.
The card asks, what have you won or lost?
Interesting.
Okay. So in the upright position, the five of Swords symbolizes the devastation of war and recommends using diplomacy to resolve problems.
I mean, I would use diplomacy with helping people pass over to the other side.
Yeah.
That feels about right.
That's the advice I would give.
And it's kind of like their war with themselves, not like a...
Absolutely.
Their war with themselves.
Yeah, they're a war with our mind.
Oh my gosh.
This is a good card.
Yeah, it is.
Well, you said the five, the number of change or hype that it brings change in the world, that would be my intention for the book.
Perfect.
Yeah, I couldn't have imagined how perfectly this one would work out.
Okay, we're going to put some drops in so that I can actually see the page I'm trying to read.
She does all the readings because I can't read out loud.
So that's the best way to do that.
So that's a really big thing to deal with.
And the lady's like, "Yeah, yeah, my kids used to talk and play with the little ghost at the limbo of Balmoral Cemetery."
And I'm like, "That's down the road for me."
And so I listened to the story.
And I was like, "Well, I need to go help that child."
She's like, "It's a little boy here with Tee, but he's waiting for his mama."
I'm like, "Okay."
So I knew nothing about it other than it was a child.
And the name of the cemetery.
And so I went to the cemetery.
And I crossed him over.
And I've got all the video footage on the website because there was this shy, enormous.
And I've never seen this before and haven't seen it since.
I had to find the location.
I had to find the child.
It was really hot.
It was really hot summer's day.
I went to the tree and I actually felt him jump on my shoulders.
His little boy named Harry.
And as I was standing there waiting to see if I had crossed him over or over.
Or if he was getting my message because of that, so I didn't know about the ghost tube app.
And I didn't know about how to use paranormal tools only and how to use my mind.
I was like, "Well, I'm definitely talking to you and I'm definitely talking out loud."
I'm maybe like an idiot in a cemetery here talking out loud.
I was just like, "I've recorded this just for my own purpose, sanity."
And then I looked up and there was this massive, massive, aim cloud.
And it just kept coming closer and closer and closer.
And then it went into this big swell right over where his grave was.
And then I felt him move away from me and go up into the light.
And then the cloud changed.
And I've got it on my website again.
A mama and a baby hugged.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
So I was like, "Okay, I need to find out more about this little baby boy."
It was seven.
I need to find out more about him.
I need to make sure that he made it to the light, checking my skills.
I want to know why was he waiting for his mama?
And so I researched him.
And then I was like, I found out a lot about his family.
And I couldn't get this.
There were two ladies with the same name and his mother born within a year apart.
And I couldn't find when you look on, when you look on an ancestry,
a lot of people think they've got the right relative and then it's the wrong one.
So I was like, really confused with who his mother was.
And anyway, finally one day, I had submitted a thing to findagrave.com,
which is owned by ancestry.
And I said, you've got the wrong Doris here.
Harry's mum is this one.
And she wrote back and she said, "No, you're wrong."
And this is how I know, because he's one of Harry's relatives.
And they've just put up this, this literally yesterday.
And I was like, wow, interestingly, they just put up Doris's memorial yesterday.
I'm like, okay, yes, that is the right mother.
And I was like, okay, so wow, I have a living relative.
So I want to find out more.
So I emailed her and said, I just wanted to confirm I've been trying to research Harry and Doris.
I want to confirm the details of Doris because she's like, how do you know Harry?
I'm like, well, this is kind of weird to say by email.
And on his iPhone, I'm much prefer to say to you over the phone, but I met him in the cemetery.
And turns out, so Harry had lots of brothers and sisters, and they all died except for one.
So a really sad story.
And his big sister got married.
So the only surviving child, and she had one child.
She had one child.
And his big sister has now passed on.
She would be like a hundred or something now.
And he's, and he's Doris, Harry's mum, is also passed on a long time ago.
So it's the big sister's son.
So it would have been Harry's nephew.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Who's still alive?
And he's in his seventies or something like that.
And it was his wife that I was talking to via email.
And before she, before she, before I said who I wasn't, I met Harry at the cemetery.
She's like, oh, you know, Harry.
And she sent me some photos of Harry.
I was like, oh my god, wow.
And so I've seen what Harry looks like.
It's just adorable sweetheart little boy.
And then I told her the story and linked to all the videos and the blogs and the link to the radio.
And she never emailed me back.
Oh.
And it was really upsetting because I thought, oh goodness, I've probably upset her.
But I've provided evidence.
And now I have a photo of Harry, which I would love to include in the book.
Because it's a story and Harry's now a spirit guy for me.
And he helps me with children.
And he brings children to me.
But it's like, there's also that privacy of that family.
Yeah.
Oh, sure.
Absolutely.
But long story short, that's how that's relevant for me in the tarot card.
Because it's like, there's a little bit there that stuck.
That's like, what do I do about Harry?
Harry's the most important person to me.
He's signaled to change in my abilities.
It was live on radio.
We have video footage.
But this is somebody's privacy as well.
So.
Oh my gosh.
I'm wondering if you, when you finish the book, if you can like send her a copy or like a link to something to where she can see its legit.
Yeah.
So I will find an answer.
But that's, I guess that's what you're at the tarot card is referring to is that is that little sticking point there that once I get my clarity, I'll be like, we're just going to be down in 10 seconds.
You know, I mean, the book will come forth.
Yeah.
No, I mean, that would be a major sticking point for you as you're, you know, kind of trying to finish that project up.
And that's a tough one.
Yeah.
I don't, I mean, I don't know if it anonymizes things enough to be able to sort of change names and, you know, still be able to share this story and, and the image just knowing that no one would be able to actually correctly identify specifically, you know, their family or, you know, if there's a reason why maybe that doesn't feel right to share it in that way.
Like, you know, that's a, that's such a tough decision to me.
It'll come, it'll come.
It's just that the whole point of the book.
And I'm happy that it, you know, it does whatever it does, but the whole point of the book was to humanize ghosts, right?
And to show that they are real people.
And so, but that's a larger society conversation.
Is it, you know, like, if you're trying to show that what the medium there's matches up to their actual real life story from research afterwards.
You know, am I trying to bite off more than I can chew?
Is it enough just to say, here across this person over and here's the proof?
Because Harry told me afterwards, he said, we know the whole point of this is not actually whether it's true or not, because it is true.
But whether you believe it yourself and that has to be enough for you.
Yeah.
Oh.
It's a lot of.
That's interesting because owls are usually wise and there's an owl on your card.
Yeah.
Well, and it's, I mean, it's sitting in a tree too.
Oh, it is sitting in a tree.
Hi, Harry.
Harry was under the tree.
Yeah.
That's cute.
I like that.
Instead of always using, we've got actually several different terro decks.
Instead of using the same one each time that kind of has that same symbolism and all of the illustrations are really pretty.
Pretty much the same.
We've got some now that are sort of modeled after different kind of themes.
And so we got one for the Pacific Northwest.
And I really, really love that they've kept the suits, whether it's the swords, wands, essentially that piece of it is the same.
And it's all in line with exactly the way a traditional terro deck would be.
But the illustrations sometimes, how they're reimagined, it's really interesting to see how you can find some additional kind of meaning or like it just draws to the story in a different way than the traditional deck, you know, might have.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's cool.
Was there anything else in the book?
I'm in a look and see.
You're asking me for extra exerbs.
You know what, there's not.
Okay.
There's not.
Yeah.
Just want to make sure we got everything.
Yeah.
That's right.
Yeah.
What?
At the end of the four of swords, there is an extra exerb.
And I'm going to read it because into the four or five.
I know where five, but it's at the bottom of the page right before it goes into the interpretation for the five.
So.
Okay.
I'm going there.
Try and stop me.
The extra exerb says find clarity from doubt.
No.
I was just like.
Okay.
In introduction to tarot, the author writes, unfortunately, the mind is too often filled with worry, doubt and fear.
the mind absorbs information that has little to do with the soul's inner workings. To counteract this, she recommends meditation.
Yoga. Deep breathing. Chanting. Prayer. Long walks. And bats.
Aww. I just took a bath yesterday. Oh my gosh. I just was, like, there's no way. Come on.
Alright. We're surprised every time. This happens every time. And we're like, "Ah! How do we do this?"
What's your intuition? Yeah. Yeah. Just my gosh. It's the same thing as connecting with
Go. So it's just connecting with energy. Do you have anything else to plug you mentioned
a podcast? Yeah. So my podcast is called the Infinite Life. Like I said, never ending
the Infinite Life with Katische Haberfield and it's on all podcast players. And then if you go
to Katische.com, it's just my website. You can find all the links to the socials and the videos
for the footages of, you know, my conversations are on my YouTube. You just, I've just put on the
very top of the YouTube. I've created a whole new dedicated channel, which has got like four followers
called Kitesh. But that's where I'm putting all my conversations. Because just the different
from where you go to talk to one spirit at a cemetery. This is me talking with like 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 at once,
you know, with lots of different storylines, different timelines from different places. So you'll see
the process that I use to cross people over literally just through discussing and talking with
them. And hopefully you'll see some inspiration for your own lives and the way that you
interact with the thoughtful energy that goes so that it gives you more insights and assistance
in your own investigations. Wow. Yeah. I love that. I love that. I did have one more question.
So you said you do sessions. Do you do them online or do they have to be in person?
No, they're all only done online. Oh, okay. Awesome. Yep. By Zoom. Yeah. Most of my clients, 90% of my clients
in America. Okay. I mean, yeah, that makes sense. We got a lot of issues over here.
I just show four issues. My dad. Why do I think it's just you guys are interested right now?
I'm sorry. Yeah. Well, we'll definitely be linking in the show now. It's yeah. I'm so excited. Yeah.
It's a little scared. As usual, so be scared. You're going to create a thought form. That's right. Oh, man.
Nutrality. Was there anything else you want to say before we go? No, just thank you for the
opportunity. Yeah. Thank you so much. This was great. Yes. This was so much fun. If you ever want to
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It's a little baby bottle of wine.