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♪ Entertain me, entertainme right now ♪

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- Welcome back, Junkies.

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We are here once again for another episode

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of the Pop Culture Junkie podcast.

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I'm here with the lovely, the beautiful,

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Shana, turn it in.

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I love it when she says it like that.

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- What's your name now?

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- I'm Olivia Rodi, and I'm, yeah.

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- Yeah, you are?

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- Yeah.

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You know that, like not too much of my girl sound,

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where she's like, yeah.

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- I don't, but I like it.

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- That's how it felt in that moment.

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- I love your new hair, by the way.

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- Thank you.

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If you are on YouTube watching this, I got a haircut.

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- Yeah, I love this bang.

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- I bang, but don't worry, everything is a-okay.

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In my life, we are--

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- Are you going through any mental stuff?

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- No, break down.

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- No, no.

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- For once, I think not.

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- You didn't cut them yourself.

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You had them professionally done.

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- Yes.

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- I think that points to mental health.

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- No, after seventh grade, when I cut my own bangs,

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I think it's like your bangs.

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And not the cut for me.

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We'll say that.

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I did it myself.

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We learned a lot of lessons.

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And that was--

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- It's a lapse along the way.

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- You know, professionals are professionals

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for a very good reason.

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- I cut my own bangs, but if I have had bangs

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for like a solid 35 years.

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- Okay.

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- So I got it down.

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- Yeah, I got it down.

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- Now it's just like, and keeping it--

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- Yeah, literally, it's just a straight line

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across my forehead.

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Like no one's gonna mess that up.

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- I got fully one day of like, you know, like, you know,

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like, shaking.

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- Oh, God.

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- I cut them too short before and then I just go,

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"Oh, God, I really don't care anymore."

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- It's the micro bangs.

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- It's the micro bangs.

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- The micro bangs are working in your favor, though.

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- I think trend right now.

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- That is true.

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I mean, there would be a point in my life

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where that would have made me break into tears.

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And I just like, myself in the mirror and I go,

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"Hat to the list."

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It's fine.

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- I don't care.

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- Eging is beautiful.

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- Eging is so great for it.

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- Literally, I just don't give a fuck.

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I don't care.

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- She says we know she's so good.

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Saying the most cruel thing to herself in the world.

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I love it.

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It's great.

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- I am very confident.

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I think I'm beautiful.

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- Yes.

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- If I ever have a massive zither cut my bangs too short,

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I go, "What's the worst that could happen?

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I don't care."

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- I think I hear you impress.

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- I love it.

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- I love it.

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- I work from home.

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My husband thinks I'm cute.

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Love you, I think I'm cute.

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- I don't care.

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- That's true too.

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- I think you are all of the above.

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- And you know, in last week's episode,

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we talked briefly about M Night Shyamalan.

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- Shyamalan.

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- And I really cannot say his last name.

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So I do just call him that.

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- Shyamalan.

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- And his kind of career defining obsession

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with plot twists.

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- Shyamalan twist?

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- Yeah, the Shyamalan twist.

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And I'm kind of left us as we are leaving that episode,

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wondering what makes a good plot twist?

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Like what makes or breaks a plot twist?

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And Shyamalan, I'm curious,

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in your mind, what makes a good plot twist?

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- Okay, so I think a good plot twist is twofold.

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A legitimate twist.

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Where at the end, you don't see it coming

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and it leaves your jaw open, you're shocked.

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But at the same point, it has to be a twist

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that makes sense in the film

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and doesn't change the tone of the movie.

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- So we'll have some examples of like good plot twists

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and bad plot twists throughout.

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- Mostly movies, but some TV shows too.

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And I think that if you're watching one movie

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and all of a sudden a twist comes in,

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it kind of changes the entire plot

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or it feels like something was tacked on and it rushed,

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then I think it's a bad twist.

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Like a twist for a twist, say.

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- Exactly, like you can tell that the writer wasn't like,

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okay, and then this happens, it's gonna be great,

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it's gonna be crazy.

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They were just like, yeah, how do we end it?

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I don't know, do something weird.

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Like kind of like pretty little wires.

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Did you watch that show?

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- I did not, but okay, who was the writer the whole time?

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- Oh no, I'm thinking of Gossip Girl.

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- I was like, you were close.

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Is there like a plot master in pretty little wires though?

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- Okay, so I was kind of running the behind show.

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- Oh, I think you're like, who was Gossip Girl?

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- I'm gonna have like millions of YouTube video essays

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breaking this down for you, but essentially I'm like,

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pretty little liar.

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- Oh, we're gonna be talking about spoilers

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for popular media by the way.

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We're just throwing that out there.

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- A lot of it will be things that can't be--

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- That are very old.

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- That are older, so we're not gonna say any twist

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of movies that have been out like two weeks ago

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and just fuck it up for everyone.

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- So just disclaimer.

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- Yes, and so pretty little wires,

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sums up these four girls who knew this teenager

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who ends up dead, right?

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from this person named A.

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- And so the through line of the show is who is A.

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who is gossip girl who is A.

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and how you saw them together.

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I forgive you now.

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- You're welcome.

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- And so there's like a million A's.

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They were just going with it and they did like one

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of those classic tropes, which I kind of think

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like Game of Thrones writers, Fel victim too,

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is they wanted to go for the most shocking thing,

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but ultimately-- - Not necessarily

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that made the most sense.

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- Ultimately created like a plot hole

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or went against something that is like canon.

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- That's kind of the way that I look at it.

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- I agree, it's like if there's something

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that has been building it for years,

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especially it's hard for a twist in a TV show sometimes

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because it's like audiences have been with these characters

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for so many years that you want a satisfying conclusion

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and you want a good ending for these characters

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that you've gotten to know for years.

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Whereas a movie you get to know some characters

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for what two hours and then if there's a twist,

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you just leave the theater and you're like,

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"Oh shit, that was sick."

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- Yeah, you-- - But if it's like spoiler

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and how I met your mother, Ted's wife is dead

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the whole time.

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- I imagine he's telling his kids the story.

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How we met their dead mom?

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- That sucked.

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- Yeah. - That was a bad twist.

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like we've established that Robin and Ted

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are obviously into each other,

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but probably not the best couple.

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She marries Barney in like the second to last episode

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of the entire series.

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And the finale just undoes all of that.

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"I'm gonna go with Aunt Robin now."

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on how I met your mother, God.

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- Oh man, I love that show.

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- I think what's the actor's name,

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the main guy in it?

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- Ted, the guy who plays Ted Moe's video.

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- Yeah, I remember the actor's name.

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- He really liked him as an actor.

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- Really punchable face.

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- Really, really punchable face.

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- Oh my God.

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- Ted Moe's, we just kind of a punchable character.

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In hindsight, so is Barney Stinson.

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It's like at the time we all thought he was so funny.

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And now you look back and you're like,

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"Well, this guy's a borderline fucking ripist."

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Didn't age too well.

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- He was the naturel on the slightest.

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- Yeah, that was a terrible twist.

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And it's like Dexter becomes a lumberjack in the end.

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Everyone was pissed.

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It's like Danny, I don't know if those were twists

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but it's things that were kind of like disappointing endings.

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I think like, I don't know.

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Let's talk a good movie twist.

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What do you think makes a good twist?

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And like what movies do you think have great plot twists?

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- Yeah, so I think a lot of good twists in my mind

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are things that you saw like very faint

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the main twist or you could see it within the story.

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- Yeah, like you even cut it on your first viewing.

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- But then after the twist comes you go,

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oh my god, I wanna watch that again

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so I can catch all the little Easter eggs.

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- Yeah, where you're like, "Oh, I should have seen it."

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I also really love the twist where you initially suspect someone

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but then you kind of clear the amount of the story

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but then they end up being really the bad guy.

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- Yeah, you're like, "How's it trusted my guy?"

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- Yeah, right, exactly.

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So I think a lot of the time,

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you give the audience the opportunity

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to figure it out ahead of time

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but it's still unique enough or not.

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So straightforward that like everybody guesses it

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within the first.

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Like, and I think the sweet spot is like,

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if people start getting it like one to five minutes before

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you're like, "Oh, okay, that's like the right area."

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you put on your list of bad twists,

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- Smollignit.

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- Which I like.

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- But I figured that out.

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I was like, "It's a parasitic twin."

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- It's parasitic twin.

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- Oh yeah.

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- Because it's like the fuck is a parasitic twin.

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- Yeah, but you said you figured that out

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on the first like two seconds of the movie.

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I also have talked about this on the podcast

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that I have this weird obsession with parasitic twins.

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If anyone has a parasitic twin,

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- It is weird.

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- Please tell me all about it.

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I wanna know, I wanna meet your parasitic twin.

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- It is weird.

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- I don't know.

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- We can, I liked that movie, but the twist is a little jar.

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- A parasitic twin isn't weird.

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Your obsession with it is a little weird.

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- I know.

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- But no, I put that as a bad twist.

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- I also really like a plot twist with an unreliable narrator.

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And so like a lot of those stories have to occur

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within the first person.

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- Yeah.

282
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- So like a really great example of that

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is gonna be like a fight club.

284
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- Oh yeah.

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- Or like a memento.

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And within a fight club, like you are seeing it through

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his eyes and he's never named.

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You just know Brad Pitt, who is Tyler Dirtin,

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but you never know Edward Norton's character name.

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- I didn't get that one spoiled for me

291
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and I didn't see it until years after it came out.

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- I was shook.

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- I was like, oh I love Chuck Palinock.

294
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- Oh it was great.

295
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- And I actually have a signed book of his.

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It's not fight club, but.

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So I really like a twist like that.

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I think where it's first person,

299
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Shutter Island I guess is another one.

300
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- Yeah, that one shook me too.

301
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- Where I, well I guess it doesn't really fall

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into the first person narrative,

303
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but you are kind of bought.

304
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- Would you say, would you agree goes in the first person?

305
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- I think well you are watching this movie

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and you come to trust,

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I don't remember Leonardo Capriot's character name.

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But you're seeing you the movie through his eyes.

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You're trusting him.

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You're like, oh he's our main character.

311
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

312
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And at the end you're like, oh.

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- He's been crazy this whole time.

314
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- Oh yeah.

315
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- And it's one of those things where at the end

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you're like, okay now I need to rewatch that movie

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to see if there's any little hints.

318
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Throughout, it's like the most famous twist of all time,

319
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probably is six cents, right?

320
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- Yeah.

321
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- And it's like upon rewatch you get to see those little hints

322
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of like no one actually talks to Bruce Willis, right?

323
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Like no one kind of talks around him,

324
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but you don't realize that on your first watch.

325
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And then you have to rewatch it and be like, okay,

326
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I got this.

327
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- Yeah, it is like the part of a good twist

328
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is you kind of immediately want to rewatch the movie.

329
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- Yeah, yeah.

330
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- I think that is a great way to be like,

331
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oh what does that mean?

332
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Like I've definitely gone and like,

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so one, one movie that I think like kind of tried

334
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to have all these twists and turns,

335
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but ultimately like left the audience so confused

336
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that it didn't land, because you do risk running

337
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into that territory as mother with Jennifer Lawrence.

338
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I've never seen it, I've read plots and obses.

339
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- Yeah, you've got the plots and obses on it.

340
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- I've got the plots and obses on it.

341
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- So confused on what do you mean?

342
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And so, what do you mean?

343
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Yeah, what do you mean?

344
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- And so ultimately I think it goes back to that argument

345
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of are you just trying to twist a twist?

346
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Or is it like ultimately like kind of serving the--

347
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- Serving the overall story.

348
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- Yeah.

349
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- I think one of my least favorite twists

350
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and we talked about this earlier

351
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is this movie Hancock with Will Smith,

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where I remember the first half of that movie

353
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thinking it was so cool.

354
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It's this guy who has superpowers,

355
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but he's just kind of like, he got a drinking problem.

356
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He doesn't really care.

357
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He's like, I don't want to be a superhero.

358
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I just have enough superpowers.

359
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So he moves in with Jason Bateman and his wife

360
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who is Charlie's Theron.

361
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And I guess because he saved Jason Bateman

362
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from an accident or something, I don't know.

363
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Coming to find out, oh, what's a twist?

364
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Charlie's Theron's a superhero too.

365
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And also it's Hancock's wife from his past life.

366
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And it feels like they put two different movie scripts

367
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and just smushed him together.

368
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- I've seen that movie, but I remember none of it.

369
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- I remember watching this movie in the beginning

370
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and being like, this is a great movie.

371
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And then halfway through, you're like, wait, oh,

372
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I'm not enjoying this anymore.

373
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It's like a weird rom-comic son.

374
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And like, I don't know.

375
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Jason Bateman's kind of cocked like--

376
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(laughing)

377
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- Jason.

378
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- Jason, I had a sex dream about Jason Bateman

379
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like a couple days ago.

380
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Oh my God, I totally forgot.

381
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- You're good.

382
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- Yeah, he was great.

383
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- Oh, okay.

384
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- Yeah, he wasn't as good as Seth Meyers, but he was good.

385
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- Okay.

386
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- Well, okay.

387
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- Yeah.

388
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- Yeah, well, okay.

389
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- But yeah, I could see how that would make sense.

390
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And in your--

391
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- Seth Meyers being a good lover.

392
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- My sex dreams.

393
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- Yeah, he's good.

394
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Very attentive.

395
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- Yeah.

396
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- Anyway, watch the first half of Hancock

397
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and then just turn it off and don't watch it.

398
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- Just do not continue doing the time stamp.

399
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- Do not keep stamps.

400
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- You can have the last turn.

401
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- I can, I'll post it on social media in the episode drops

402
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because there's a very hardcore point where you're like,

403
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oh, now this movie sucks.

404
00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,880
And it's when the twist happens.

405
00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:03,880
- Oh, okay.

406
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So the twist like purely ruins the movie.

407
00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:07,880
- It ruins the movie.

408
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- In your mind.

409
00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:09,560
- Yeah, absolutely.

410
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I do have my favorite twist in "Sing of God of History."

411
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- Which is?

412
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- The Mist.

413
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- Okay.

414
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- It's a movie based on a Stephen King novel.

415
00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,480
- Yeah.

416
00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,720
- Horror movie, this Mist attacks a town, the world,

417
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whatever and all these people are hiding in the grocery store.

418
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And if you go onto the Mist, you're surely gonna die

419
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'cause there's creatures in the Mist.

420
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Okay, big spoiler for the Mist.

421
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It came out so long ago.

422
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3, 2, 1, here we go.

423
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They get in a car at the end.

424
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The main character in his surviving comrades or whatever.

425
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And the car runs out of gas.

426
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At this point, they're like, well, we're screwed.

427
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And we're not, we don't have any food.

428
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He has a gun with like four bullets in it.

429
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He shoots everyone in the car dead,

430
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including his own son.

431
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And he doesn't have enough bullets to kill himself.

432
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So he's just screaming in agony.

433
00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:57,600
- Yeah.

434
00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:58,640
- That what he had just done.

435
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That very moment, the Army rolls in.

436
00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,240
- The Army rolls in is like ready to save everyone.

437
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I'm relatching that and just being like,

438
00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,480
oh my God, you sit with that twist for so long

439
00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,800
and you're just like Jesus Christ,

440
00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,800
he has to live his whole life now,

441
00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,720
going through this best twist I've seen, I think.

442
00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:17,720
- Yeah.

443
00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,240
- So the last time I watched the mist, I was in Malibu.

444
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And we were staying at like this Airbnb.

445
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And it was a former like Backstreet Boy,

446
00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,960
like owner of the house.

447
00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:32,800
- Oh, okay.

448
00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,280
- So we're like really high in these Malibu mountains.

449
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And then you Malibu and then you also yes.

450
00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,160
- Okay.

451
00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,520
- And so we are up there.

452
00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,280
And there's a lot of mist in Malibu.

453
00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,600
And I was like, you know what we should do?

454
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- We should watch the mist.

455
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- I tell everyone.

456
00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,040
- And I was like, why would we do that?

457
00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:52,880
- Why would we do that?

458
00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,840
- I sat there by myself and watched the mist.

459
00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:57,840
- I wouldn't watch it with you.

460
00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,080
I love that movie.

461
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I'll watch that movie by myself.

462
00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,080
- Yeah.

463
00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:01,920
- My watch was by myself.

464
00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:02,760
- It was great.

465
00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,080
- It was great.

466
00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,240
- I remember watching Cabin in the woods

467
00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,080
in a Cabin in the woods with my friends

468
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'cause we were like, we should watch this movie.

469
00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,200
- Yeah.

470
00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,040
- Which is also a movie that has a pretty good twist.

471
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Now that I think of it.

472
00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,680
- It does have a great twist.

473
00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,520
- It does have a great movie with a great twist.

474
00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,160
- Yeah, that is a good movie.

475
00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,240
- I love to show Cabin in the woods to people who are like,

476
00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,800
oh, I hate horror.

477
00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,920
Or they don't have like a respect for horror movies.

478
00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,040
- It's actually Camp Horror.

479
00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,680
- Yeah, because it's funny.

480
00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,480
It really like, it knows what it's doing.

481
00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:35,920
And it's kind of subverting.

482
00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,000
- It's clever, it's fun.

483
00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,160
- Traditional tropes and turning them upside down

484
00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,560
and doing all those things.

485
00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,200
- And that's a good twist when it like,

486
00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,720
fucks with like what you expect a horror movie to be.

487
00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,040
It's like, we think that this Cabin in the woods

488
00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,640
is gonna be an evil dead situation with their zombies.

489
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And like, but no, it's,

490
00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,080
it's a government corporation.

491
00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,680
- Yeah, and then to you all from dying.

492
00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:57,520
- Exactly.

493
00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,360
And they're all running bets about if the mermaid man

494
00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,560
is gonna come this time.

495
00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:02,560
Like, I love that movie.

496
00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:03,480
- Yeah.

497
00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,360
I really, really like that.

498
00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:08,320
So pro tip, if you have someone in your life

499
00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,520
who you're a horror lover and they do not love it,

500
00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,920
like your significant other partner, get them to watch that.

501
00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,600
It's a really good entry way into,

502
00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,760
hey, some can be good.

503
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,680
And like for me, I like ghosts.

504
00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,320
I like supernatural horror.

505
00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,160
- Me too.

506
00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,560
- I'm not a big rusem.

507
00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,760
Like, it's totally me.

508
00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,360
- With its torture porn.

509
00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:39,200
- Like, saw, saw one is as a little too much for me.

510
00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,600
But the twist at the end, it is great.

511
00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,440
- Incredible.

512
00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,440
- I do think that I've kept up with the story of saw.

513
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,880
I don't really like to watch it because it's so gratuitous.

514
00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:50,720
- Me neither.

515
00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:51,560
I can't do that.

516
00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,560
- But I can't do that kind of horror because it's just like,

517
00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,040
it seems so over the top and then just like,

518
00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,640
new ways to watch bodies split apart.

519
00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,960
And I'm not about that.

520
00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:02,680
If it's exorcisms and ghosts and demons,

521
00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,040
oh yeah, let's go.

522
00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,800
But the first saw is a little more psychological

523
00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,920
than like the subsequent ones.

524
00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,880
Where there's actually like a mind fuck plot going on

525
00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,600
and the twist at the end.

526
00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,440
- That's great.

527
00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,040
- So I think it's called CK's world.

528
00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,760
He does like timeline breakdowns.

529
00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,600
He does like full horror story like timelines and breakdowns.

530
00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:30,600
So I watched his and it's the entire history of saw.

531
00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,400
- That sounds interesting.

532
00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,160
- So of like Jigsaw and how he became.

533
00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,320
So like, I didn't have to watch the gross parts of it.

534
00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,000
But the story behind it and like they do have some really good plot

535
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,920
to us of like the people who ultimately go through

536
00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,720
this torture like join in.

537
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,240
- Why were they chosen to be part of the game?

538
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,440
- Yeah, and then as the saws go on,

539
00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,320
they start to join in and give people these choices.

540
00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,520
It has to contribute to that larger story

541
00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,880
and make sense for the character like,

542
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,360
why are they doing this?

543
00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:09,000
Especially if it's gonna be like a film franchise.

544
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,360
Like that brings me to another one of the greatest

545
00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:12,440
plot twists of all time.

546
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,720
And Olivia and I had to confirm that this was a plot twist.

547
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,320
So in Star Wars, the original trilogy

548
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,600
when Luke finds out that Vader is his father to us,

549
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,960
I was born in '89, you were what, '92.

550
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:25,800
- '93.

551
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:26,840
- '93, Jesus Christ.

552
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,600
So we watched Star Wars when it would already been out

553
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,480
for a long time for the first time.

554
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,200
And so to me, I am your father was not a twist

555
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,680
'cause I already, it was so in bed in culture.

556
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,720
- Not culture, but I call my dad

557
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,600
who went to the Star Wars movies and saw them in theater

558
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,560
and said he stood in line for hours.

559
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,440
And he said that everyone was shook

560
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,480
when that line was dropped.

561
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,040
No, I am your father, you know it to be true.

562
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:53,880
He said it.

563
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:54,720
- Audible gas.

564
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,760
- Everyone was gasping and just shook.

565
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,000
And I was like, that's a great plot twist.

566
00:19:59,000 --> 00:19:59,840
- Yeah.

567
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,840
- And sometimes that's the unfortunate part

568
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,920
of something being iconic and it can spoil it

569
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:07,920
for other generation.

570
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,320
- Yeah, like six cents was hell spoiled for me.

571
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,160
- Yeah.

572
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,840
- To this point, I still haven't seen that movie.

573
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,280
I'll be honest, I've never seen it.

574
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,120
- It's worth it.

575
00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:16,400
- I think it probably is.

576
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,240
- It's worth it.

577
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,000
- But I was so salty with my friend spoiled it for me.

578
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,480
At my hair swimming at my house,

579
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,520
in the fourth grade or something stupid.

580
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,480
She's like, he said the craziest movie,

581
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,160
Embry's Fools was Dead the Hold.

582
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,360
- That's like the kid who wants to ruin Santa Claus for--

583
00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:32,200
- Oh my god.

584
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,040
- Brother.

585
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:33,860
- Yeah.

586
00:20:33,860 --> 00:20:36,120
Everyone's older brothers, older siblings.

587
00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:38,560
Like, yeah, well, Santa's not real

588
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,840
and just really is your entire Christmas.

589
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,760
- So my brother took it the other way

590
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,920
and would give me coal and be like,

591
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,280
see Santa hates you.

592
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,000
- Santa thinks you're so bad.

593
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,800
(laughing)

594
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,160
- And then he was like, volunteer, I get soup kitchens

595
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,200
in like the fourth grade.

596
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,960
Just like, this is gonna be my year.

597
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,880
- I mean, Santa's fight, like it'll like me.

598
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,360
- If I'm gonna put it right,

599
00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:01,680
like he was, he had a better long term strategy

600
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,760
to really add to the torment, you know.

601
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,040
- That's a life twist.

602
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:06,880
- Yeah.

603
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,600
- When we all found out Santa's the tooth bunny,

604
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,960
she's the tooth kidding.

605
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:10,800
I'm kidding.

606
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:11,960
- The tooth bunny.

607
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,040
(laughing)

608
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,520
- You didn't learn about the tooth bunny.

609
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,520
You know what I'm saying?

610
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,600
- Is that the movie teeth?

611
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:19,920
- That's a great movie.

612
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:20,760
That's a great movie.

613
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,600
- Yeah.

614
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:22,440
- That is a good one.

615
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,040
- Oh man, we're gonna talk about feminist film

616
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,160
in some future episode.

617
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,000
- Yeah.

618
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,800
We talked about it and good for her.

619
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,640
- That's true.

620
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,480
- That's true.

621
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,920
- And get to tired trope now.

622
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,360
Like we mentioned the sixth sense.

623
00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:38,360
- The dead.

624
00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:39,360
- The whole time trope.

625
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:41,600
- Yeah, the dead, the entire time.

626
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,600
- I'm not sure if I'm trying to.

627
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,440
- I'm not sure if I'm trying to.

628
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,040
- It was all a dream.

629
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:46,880
- Yeah.

630
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,200
- We hallucinated this whole thing.

631
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,160
Like even in Twilight when they have that whole segment

632
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,240
in the final movie, where like everyone dies.

633
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,120
And they're not like, oh no, this was just Alice's vision.

634
00:21:58,120 --> 00:21:58,960
- Yeah.

635
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,440
- Like, I mean, it's an interesting segment,

636
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,040
but like, I don't know, it was all a dream

637
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:02,960
and they were dead the whole time.

638
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,800
- Yeah.

639
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,640
- It's kind of like that.

640
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,480
- I hate that it was all a dream.

641
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,600
One movie that I do really like with that,

642
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,520
they were dead the whole time though, is The Others.

643
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,280
- I've seen The Others.

644
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,480
- Okay, well I'm not gonna spoil it then.

645
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,480
- Oh my god, yeah, don't spoil it.

646
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,880
If it's for me, we can't spoil it.

647
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:18,720
We can spoil it, we can spoil it.

648
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:19,560
- We can spoil it, we can spoil it.

649
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,400
- We can spoil it, we can spoil it.

650
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,240
- Yeah, yeah.

651
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,080
- For each other.

652
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:22,920
- No, it's good.

653
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,760
- But it's gotta go to it.

654
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,600
- It's a couple of Kidmin, right?

655
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:29,720
- The commercials for that, I remember being young and there's like,

656
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,880
this little girl under this like lace like tablecloth

657
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,040
and she's like seeing a little creepy lullaby.

658
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:37,880
- Nope.

659
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,480
- And it to this day sticks with me.

660
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,320
- Nope.

661
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,400
- And the twist in the end is very, very good.

662
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,240
- Don't tell me.

663
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,720
- And so, I'm gonna watch that.

664
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,040
That's gonna be my Thursday movie.

665
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,080
When I always watch movies by myself on Thursday nights,

666
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:49,920
that'll be mine this week.

667
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,760
- Yeah.

668
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,240
- Yeah, it reminds me.

669
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,000
It's coral but still.

670
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,240
- I've sure I've told this story before.

671
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,520
I was out walking Buffy and taking her to go pee.

672
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,080
It was like starting to storm and like,

673
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,280
"We're in a little bit and it's getting kind of windy and dark."

674
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,680
And I see this little kid standing in the distance,

675
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,000
like in my apartment complex grass.

676
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,520
And he's just standing there like a creepy fucking horror movie kid.

677
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,120
- And looks at me and goes,

678
00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:13,840
"You're going to die tonight."

679
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,080
- No.

680
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,320
Did I? I've never told you that.

681
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,840
Oh my god, I'm just, my...

682
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,840
Okay.

683
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,480
(laughing)

684
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,800
And Andrew's like, "Are you okay?"

685
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,120
I was like, "Ahhh."

686
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:30,280
- Can we like make sure all the children are all.

687
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,440
- Little kids, like that little kid horror for tonight.

688
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,160
- No, little kid horror for tonight.

689
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,760
Like the orphan is a really good twist as well.

690
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,960
- I've never seen a movie that I just know

691
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,400
the twist through pop culture.

692
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,320
- Yeah, the orphan has a great twist.

693
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,160
But yeah.

694
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,440
- And I think it was like a little kid like Damien.

695
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,680
- It's open year day.

696
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,240
- Yeah, you know, like I always think those are like

697
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,640
the iconic ones that are like really old people.

698
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:57,640
- Yeah.

699
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,640
- Yeah.

700
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,880
- No, I mean, I, okay, I'm gonna put orphan on my list too.

701
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,120
The second orphan is very good as well.

702
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:05,560
- I'm just a orphan too.

703
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,440
- Orphan two has a great plot twist as well.

704
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,280
- Another twist.

705
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,120
- Yeah.

706
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:11,120
- Shit, a twist within a twist.

707
00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:12,520
- A twist within a twist.

708
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,360
- A twist?

709
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:16,040
- Which I guess we can't talk about the plot twist

710
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,280
of a movie without mentioning inception.

711
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,800
- Oh my gosh, inception is so good with such a good twist.

712
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,920
- Yeah, I totally forgot about inception.

713
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,320
- Yeah, like a twist within a twist within a twist.

714
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,840
- Yes, I love that.

715
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,600
- And while when you would explain kind of the levels

716
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,640
in the way of it, I think he did a great job on it

717
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,040
where it just like created like almost like a tornado

718
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,360
of how do you know what exists.

719
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:44,200
- Exactly.

720
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,520
- And like you still don't even know

721
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,360
what the top of the end.

722
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:48,120
- Yeah, I love those movies too.

723
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:49,360
Where the person that you see them with,

724
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:51,960
you go get like a drink or cup of coffee right after the movie

725
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,360
and you both just sit there and like talk about it

726
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:57,600
and discuss it and you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute.

727
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,520
Did this mean this and the other person's like,

728
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,880
no, didn't you notice this?

729
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,600
Like I love those kinds of movies.

730
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,600
- Yeah.

731
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,680
- I'm just breaking it all down.

732
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,640
That reminded me of another great twist that I liked,

733
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,960
which is it did fall into their dead the whole time trope,

734
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,280
but gravity with Sandra Bullock and George Clooney.

735
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,760
- I've seen it.

736
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,120
- Such a good movie.

737
00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,200
(laughing)

738
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,120
For the show you cannot hear our producer,

739
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,600
she said there's a twist.

740
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,800
- There's a twist in that movie.

741
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,000
Okay, so gravity, they're in space like Sandra Bullock

742
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000
and George Clooney are these two astronauts

743
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,840
and Sandra Bullock is, do you mind if I spoil this?

744
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,680
- Yeah.

745
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,440
- So you're good.

746
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,040
- I think I actually have seen this.

747
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,640
Now that you're saying this face part.

748
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,480
- I'm out to fix something on the ship

749
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,520
and the cord becomes attached to something

750
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,600
and she's essentially floating through space, right?

751
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,920
- Yes, or do I know?

752
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,760
- Or do I know?

753
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,520
- And George Clooney's dead the whole time.

754
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,760
She's just hallucinating talking to him.

755
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,520
- Oh wow.

756
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,120
- I wish I could apparently have producer wasn't she?

757
00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,080
(laughing)

758
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,360
- That sounds like a very distant memory to me,

759
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:05,720
but maybe you were, I did tell you earlier

760
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,080
that when people say, oh, I wish I could reread

761
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,160
that book again or like,

762
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,920
re-remember this piece of media.

763
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,600
I'm like, give it a couple of years and I will forget.

764
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,760
- It's all gone.

765
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,600
- It's just gone.

766
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,440
- It's gonna be gone.

767
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,960
I'm like, I don't know.

768
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,960
- Oh my God.

769
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,120
That also reminds me of like movies with good twists

770
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:24,800
that are based on books.

771
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,400
So I mentioned earlier that one of my old friends

772
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,200
from high school spoiled for everyone

773
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,320
that Snape killed Dumbledore at the movie premiere for it.

774
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,440
- And I guess half blood friends.

775
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,120
Is that the one that killed Dumbledore?

776
00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:37,680
And everyone who was in the line who had read the book

777
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,800
was like, what a dick, we all know that.

778
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,600
But like people, there's people who definitely write

779
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,440
all the books who used to like the movies

780
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,600
and they're just like, what the fuck?

781
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,640
Like they're a real slither in that group of them.

782
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,880
- I'm a slither in.

783
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,840
- Well, excuse you.

784
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,120
We're not all that.

785
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:55,320
(laughing)

786
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,480
- They fuck jacket rolling.

787
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,320
- Yeah.

788
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,160
- I'm a slither.

789
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,000
- Yeah.

790
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,520
- But that was a great twist, I think.

791
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,280
And then you have to wait for the next book to come out

792
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,680
to find out, okay, is Snape good or Snape bad?

793
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,560
I remember they were like selling merch and you could choose.

794
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,240
Like one was like, Snape is a good guy

795
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,760
and then it was like, Snape is a bad guy

796
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,120
and you had to wait to find out.

797
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:15,040
But yeah, good book twist.

798
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,840
You wanna know what the real worst twist of them all is?

799
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,680
- I sure do.

800
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,840
- JK Rowling becoming a turd.

801
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:21,920
- I'm becoming a turd.

802
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,480
- God, watch it twist.

803
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,360
(laughing)

804
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:27,560
- Yeah, she could've had it all but she blew it, man.

805
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,840
- She fucking blew it.

806
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:29,680
- Yeah.

807
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,080
- There's also another twist.

808
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:31,920
- Hmm.

809
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,160
(laughing)

810
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,320
- I'm actually Nicole.

811
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,480
(laughing)

812
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,800
- Hey.

813
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,240
- Is that you're Nicole impression?

814
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,080
- Hey.

815
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,080
- You're scuby dude being the center.

816
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,080
- I'm scuby dude.

817
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:43,920
- What a guy.

818
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,720
- You legally blonde being the scuby dude being.

819
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,760
(laughing)

820
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,320
- Man.

821
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,160
- What a twist.

822
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,680
- If you don't remember.

823
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,920
- We love you Nicole, we miss you.

824
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,920
- Yeah, we do.

825
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,600
If you don't remember the legally blonde,

826
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,360
is you told me to show up in a costume

827
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:00,880
and I was came in a costume.

828
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,320
- Okay, she the fair.

829
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,760
I never said come in a costume.

830
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,120
I said and I quote,

831
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:06,360
where your best spooky swimwear.

832
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:07,200
- The next swimwear.

833
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,040
- The next swimwear.

834
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,880
- The next swimwear.

835
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,720
- The next swimwear.

836
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,520
- It was a Halloween swim party.

837
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,800
- I loved your costume and this Halloween,

838
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,280
we're gonna have great costumes.

839
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,120
- Yes.

840
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:16,960
- No matter what they are.

841
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,800
- I agree.

842
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,240
(laughing)

843
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,600
- The real twist is the memories we made along the way.

844
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,600
(dramatic music)

845
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:31,040
- While we could talk on and on about our favorite plot twist,

846
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:36,040
I do wanna get into a little bit of some current pop culture.

847
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,320
So what have you been obsessed with this week?

848
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,120
- I wanna talk about a movie that I watched very recently

849
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,960
that I really liked.

850
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,800
- Okay.

851
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,880
- It's called The Green Night.

852
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,560
It came out in 2021.

853
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,240
It stars Dev Patel.

854
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,080
- Mm.

855
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:51,920
- Bubba.

856
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,760
- Who I love.

857
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,920
- What a good-looking man.

858
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,760
- He really is.

859
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,560
- My great actor.

860
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,360
It's a A24 pic so you know it's gonna be amazing.

861
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,320
- I mean, it's a media-like gonna be good.

862
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,840
- But it's really like,

863
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,720
it's got that A24 art style where it's kind of like

864
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,920
ominous and dark, but it's not a horror movie.

865
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,240
It's very suspenseful, but it's based on an English folklore

866
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,480
where it's medieval nights and Dev's character,

867
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,840
Sir Goen wants to be a knight, but he's not very knightly.

868
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,600
He spends most of his time having sex with his kind of

869
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,960
brothel-employed lover.

870
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,800
- So he drinks a lot.

871
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,240
- Dancer dragons, why am I saying?

872
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,280
- Yeah, but he doesn't seem like a crispy call.

873
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,680
- He's a little crispy call.

874
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,960
- He doesn't seem like a bad guy.

875
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,600
He's just kind of like, yeah, I wish I was a knight,

876
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,600
but at the same time, I like drinking and smoking

877
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,640
and I'm drinking and I like it.

878
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,480
- Yeah.

879
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,520
- And then one year, Christmas,

880
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,040
he is also the King's nephew.

881
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,720
This knight comes in.

882
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,440
The Green Night, who seems to kind of be like

883
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,760
made of trees and leaves.

884
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,760
He's one with nature and offers up a game to everybody there.

885
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,080
And if anyone is brave enough to face him,

886
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,680
they will get honor and riches.

887
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,240
I will not spoil it.

888
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,800
And of course, Sir Goen is like, I'll do it.

889
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,080
Yeah, 'cause he wants to kind of show off how cool he is

890
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,480
and brave he is.

891
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,000
That's setting forth a wonderful movie with just like

892
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,080
action and twists, honestly.

893
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,400
- And a two-wheels.

894
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,600
- There's twists throughout this movie

895
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,200
that I was shook a couple times.

896
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,640
And I remember saying out loud at one point, no.

897
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,800
- Oh, yeah.

898
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,640
- And I was like, okay.

899
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,480
All right.

900
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,120
So I'm absolutely gonna pop the Green Night.

901
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,520
- Okay.

902
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,360
- 2021.

903
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,400
I don't remember where we streamed it.

904
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,360
I think we had to pay like $3.99 a rip.

905
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,200
- Okay.

906
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,040
- But it was great.

907
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,040
- Okay.

908
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:43,920
- I'm compelled.

909
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,400
I will check it out.

910
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,240
- Absolutely.

911
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,080
- I love it.

912
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:47,920
- I watched it 24 good.

913
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,560
- And Deft Betel is so, he's such a good character

914
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,200
because he messes up over and over again

915
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,480
throughout the movie where it's like all these opportunities

916
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,320
to do the right thing, keep popping up.

917
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,160
- Yeah.

918
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,320
- And he's like not doing it.

919
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,160
- Do you want to say that?

920
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,080
- And you're like, oh, come on, come on.

921
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,120
But it's a great movie.

922
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,880
- What about you, Liv?

923
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,200
- Well, I have essentially an unspoilable show to recommend

924
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,600
because it is based on Greek mythology.

925
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,440
- Okay.

926
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,600
- So we already know what's gonna happen.

927
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,440
- So we already know what's gonna happen.

928
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,200
- Everything that's going to happen.

929
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,120
But it just came out on Netflix, actually.

930
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:21,960
- Oh, I don't care.

931
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,800
- It's called K-Ox.

932
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,640
- Yes.

933
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,000
- So it has a Jeff Goldblum as a Zeus,

934
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Janet McTier as Hera, Stefan Delaene as Prometheus,

935
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,240
and just a whole host of different characters.

936
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,640
It is so funny.

937
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,840
It's so good.

938
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,440
I love Jeff Goldblum.

939
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,880
I think he's only getting hotter as he ages.

940
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,920
- Oh, what the hell is he?

941
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,920
- He's just like a man from Jurassic Park to, you know,

942
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,960
today, he can find a way in me.

943
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,520
- But he plays such a good job of like the,

944
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,840
his casusean Greek mythology is known as like this,

945
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,520
like arrogant, like power under ladies man.

946
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,240
- And this whole, yeah, who just like demands respect

947
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,920
and is like quite petty.

948
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,960
And I think he plays like gives the character

949
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,600
like a lot of playfulness where you can still kind of like him,

950
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,400
but you know, he's gonna ask whole.

951
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,760
And you know, it's just kind of like a hatching lent child,

952
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,440
ultimately, but it's so good.

953
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,040
I binge it all yesterday.

954
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,000
- And that's to give it a lot.

955
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,040
- I have 30 minutes left in the ending of it,

956
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,320
but it's really good.

957
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,840
And as you know, by us discussing all the books we read,

958
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,160
we do love a mythology in this house.

959
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,000
- Oh, absolutely.

960
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,280
- Of course, we're gonna have to pop that one,

961
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,560
but very, very good.

962
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,600
- I'm gonna get it a while.

963
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,640
- I've been saying a lot of good things about it.

964
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,920
It's chaos with a K, right?

965
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,800
- Yeah, chaos with a K.

966
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,640
- Love that.

967
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,680
I'm gonna give it a try.

968
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,200
- I also spinyly started Iron Flame speaking of reading

969
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,440
and stuff to our reading.

970
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,840
- To our reading fans.

971
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Oh my God, I'm only 100 pages in, but I'm so obsessed.

972
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,400
- Yeah.

973
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,360
- So, we're excited to hear your thoughts.

974
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,400
- Yes, I'm Cheryl Finish, it was in the end five months.

975
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,800
- No, dude, I got through fourth wing

976
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,120
and like really fast, like a week or two.

977
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,200
So I'm gonna speed through it.

978
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,240
- Yeah, I just gotta talk shit to you.

979
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,280
So that way you'll like read it faster.

980
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,120
- Then I'll be guilty.

981
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:18,960
- Yes, mommy.

982
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,760
- Yeah, it's like, you know, when your coach is like really mean to you.

983
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,600
- Yeah.

984
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,360
- But it makes you work harder in spite of it.

985
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,120
- It reminds me of the bear, like,

986
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:27,960
- Yeah.

987
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,080
- Carly's guy who's like, kill yourself

988
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,120
and he's like, "Yes, chef, God!"

989
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,440
- That's how I am with reading.

990
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,520
- Good to know.

991
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,360
- Good to know.

992
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,200
- Good to know.

993
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,880
- The literacy crews in the company.

994
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,240
- Now it's time to reveal our plot twist.

995
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,440
Sean and I have been dead this entire time.

996
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,320
This entire episode, it's all been a dream.

997
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,880
- Mmm.

998
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,040
- We're dead.

999
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,320
- We're dead and we're also in a dream.

1000
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,160
- Dad.

1001
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,000
- A dead dream.

1002
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,920
- A dead dream within a dream within a dream.

1003
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,440
- Within a dream within a dream.

1004
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,520
- Yes.

1005
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,720
- Just like Christopher Nolan would want it.

1006
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,080
- And even though we're dead,

1007
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,920
we still want you to find us on social media.

1008
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,280
So Sean, let the people know where they can find your gorgeous face.

1009
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,000
- We might be dead, but we're still pretty.

1010
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,840
- Yes.

1011
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,680
- I think we would say.

1012
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,520
- Yes.

1013
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,520
- You can find me, Shauna Trinidad,

1014
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,720
@shaunatrinidad on Instagram and TikTok.

1015
00:34:23,720 --> 00:34:25,000
I always forget that I have a TikTok.

1016
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,840
It's there.

1017
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,680
- Yeah.

1018
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,160
- S-H-A-U-N-A-T-R-I-N-I-D-A-D.

1019
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,160
- And you can find me, Olivia, on Instagram,

1020
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:38,160
@livimariez L-I-V-I-M-A-R-I-E-Z.

1021
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,760
- And don't forget, you can find the pop culture junkie podcast,

1022
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,960
social media links, and more on our website,

1023
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,560
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1024
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,040
From there, you can find our podcast on all platforms,

1025
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,600
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1026
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,320
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1027
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,960
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1028
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:03,640
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1029
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,560
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1030
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,320
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1031
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,920
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1032
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,920
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1033
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,240
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1034
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:23,640
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1035
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,440
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1036
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,480
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1037
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,600
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1038
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,180
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1039
00:35:31,180 --> 00:35:34,840
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1040
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,840
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1041
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,000
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1042
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,880
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1043
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,800
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1044
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1045
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