♪ Entertain me, entertainme right now ♪
- Welcome back, Junkies.
We are here once again for another episode
of the Pop Culture Junkie podcast.
I'm here with the lovely, the beautiful,
Shana, turn it in.
I love it when she says it like that.
- What's your name now?
- I'm Olivia Rodi, and I'm, yeah.
- Yeah, you are?
- Yeah.
You know that, like not too much of my girl sound,
where she's like, yeah.
- I don't, but I like it.
- That's how it felt in that moment.
- I love your new hair, by the way.
- Thank you.
If you are on YouTube watching this, I got a haircut.
- Yeah, I love this bang.
- I bang, but don't worry, everything is a-okay.
In my life, we are--
- Are you going through any mental stuff?
- No, break down.
- No, no.
- For once, I think not.
- You didn't cut them yourself.
You had them professionally done.
- Yes.
- I think that points to mental health.
- No, after seventh grade, when I cut my own bangs,
I think it's like your bangs.
And not the cut for me.
We'll say that.
I did it myself.
We learned a lot of lessons.
And that was--
- It's a lapse along the way.
- You know, professionals are professionals
for a very good reason.
- I cut my own bangs, but if I have had bangs
for like a solid 35 years.
- Okay.
- So I got it down.
- Yeah, I got it down.
- Now it's just like, and keeping it--
- Yeah, literally, it's just a straight line
across my forehead.
Like no one's gonna mess that up.
- I got fully one day of like, you know, like, you know,
like, shaking.
- Oh, God.
- I cut them too short before and then I just go,
"Oh, God, I really don't care anymore."
- It's the micro bangs.
- The micro bangs are working in your favor, though.
- I think trend right now.
- That is true.
I mean, there would be a point in my life
where that would have made me break into tears.
And I just like, myself in the mirror and I go,
"Hat to the list."
It's fine.
- I don't care.
- Eging is beautiful.
- Eging is so great for it.
- Literally, I just don't give a fuck.
I don't care.
- She says we know she's so good.
Saying the most cruel thing to herself in the world.
I love it.
It's great.
- I am very confident.
I think I'm beautiful.
- Yes.
- If I ever have a massive zither cut my bangs too short,
I go, "What's the worst that could happen?
I don't care."
- I think I hear you impress.
- I love it.
- I work from home.
My husband thinks I'm cute.
Love you, I think I'm cute.
- I don't care.
- That's true too.
- I think you are all of the above.
- And you know, in last week's episode,
we talked briefly about M Night Shyamalan.
- Shyamalan.
- And I really cannot say his last name.
So I do just call him that.
- Shyamalan.
- And his kind of career defining obsession
with plot twists.
- Shyamalan twist?
- Yeah, the Shyamalan twist.
And I'm kind of left us as we are leaving that episode,
wondering what makes a good plot twist?
Like what makes or breaks a plot twist?
And Shyamalan, I'm curious,
in your mind, what makes a good plot twist?
- Okay, so I think a good plot twist is twofold.
A legitimate twist.
Where at the end, you don't see it coming
and it leaves your jaw open, you're shocked.
But at the same point, it has to be a twist
that makes sense in the film
and doesn't change the tone of the movie.
- Okay.
- So we'll have some examples of like good plot twists
and bad plot twists throughout.
- Mostly movies, but some TV shows too.
And I think that if you're watching one movie
and all of a sudden a twist comes in,
it kind of changes the entire plot
or it feels like something was tacked on and it rushed,
then I think it's a bad twist.
Like a twist for a twist, say.
- Exactly, like you can tell that the writer wasn't like,
okay, and then this happens, it's gonna be great,
it's gonna be crazy.
They were just like, yeah, how do we end it?
I don't know, do something weird.
Like kind of like pretty little wires.
Did you watch that show?
- I did not, but okay, who was the writer the whole time?
- Oh no, I'm thinking of Gossip Girl.
(laughing)
- I was like, you were close.
Is there like a plot master in pretty little wires though?
- Okay, so I was kind of running the behind show.
- Oh, I think you're like, who was Gossip Girl?
- I'm gonna have like millions of YouTube video essays
breaking this down for you, but essentially I'm like,
pretty little liar.
- Oh, we're gonna be talking about spoilers
for popular media by the way.
We're just throwing that out there.
- Yeah.
- A lot of it will be things that can't be--
- That are very old.
- That are older, so we're not gonna say any twist
of movies that have been out like two weeks ago
and just fuck it up for everyone.
- So just disclaimer.
- Yes, and so pretty little wires,
sums up these four girls who knew this teenager
who ends up dead, right?
And all of a sudden they start getting anonymous texts
from this person named A.
- Oh, okay.
- And so the through line of the show is who is A.
- Okay, I knew there was like a mysterious character
who is gossip girl who is A.
- Yes, yeah, I guess that through line makes sense
and how you saw them together.
I forgive you now.
- Thank you, thank you.
- You're welcome.
- And so there's like a million A's.
They were just going with it and they did like one
of those classic tropes, which I kind of think
like Game of Thrones writers, Fel victim too,
is they wanted to go for the most shocking thing,
but ultimately-- - Not necessarily
that made the most sense.
- Ultimately created like a plot hole
or went against something that is like canon.
- Okay, I know.
- That's kind of the way that I look at it.
- I agree, it's like if there's something
that has been building it for years,
especially it's hard for a twist in a TV show sometimes
because it's like audiences have been with these characters
for so many years that you want a satisfying conclusion
and you want a good ending for these characters
that you've gotten to know for years.
Whereas a movie you get to know some characters
for what two hours and then if there's a twist,
you just leave the theater and you're like,
"Oh shit, that was sick."
- Yeah, you-- - But if it's like spoiler
and how I met your mother, Ted's wife is dead
the whole time.
- I imagine he's telling his kids the story.
How we met their dead mom?
- That sucked.
- Yeah. - That was a bad twist.
- Yeah. - Because for years,
like we've established that Robin and Ted
are obviously into each other,
but probably not the best couple.
She marries Barney in like the second to last episode
of the entire series.
And the finale just undoes all of that.
And then it's like, "Oh, your mom's dead,
"I'm gonna go with Aunt Robin now."
And fans were pissed, right?
- Oh wow, yeah.
- Yeah. - But yeah, I was never
on how I met your mother, God.
- Oh man, I love that show.
- I think what's the actor's name,
the main guy in it?
- Ted, the guy who plays Ted Moe's video.
- Yeah, I remember the actor's name.
- He really liked him as an actor.
- Really punchable face.
- Really, really punchable face.
- Oh my God.
- Ted Moe's, we just kind of a punchable character.
- Yeah.
In hindsight, so is Barney Stinson.
It's like at the time we all thought he was so funny.
And now you look back and you're like,
"Well, this guy's a borderline fucking ripist."
- Yeah, I got like, "This guy's creepy as hell."
Didn't age too well.
- He was the naturel on the slightest.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, that was a terrible twist.
And it's like Dexter becomes a lumberjack in the end.
Everyone was pissed.
It's like Danny, I don't know if those were twists
but it's things that were kind of like disappointing endings.
I think like, I don't know.
Let's talk a good movie twist.
What do you think makes a good twist?
And like what movies do you think have great plot twists?
- Yeah, so I think a lot of good twists in my mind
are things that you saw like very faint
or are little cues that they were like ultimately
the main twist or you could see it within the story.
- Yeah, like you even cut it on your first viewing.
- But then after the twist comes you go,
oh my god, I wanna watch that again
so I can catch all the little Easter eggs.
- Yeah, where you're like, "Oh, I should have seen it."
I also really love the twist where you initially suspect someone
but then you kind of clear the amount of the story
but then they end up being really the bad guy.
- Yeah, you're like, "How's it trusted my guy?"
- Yeah, right, exactly.
So I think a lot of the time,
you give the audience the opportunity
to figure it out ahead of time
but it's still unique enough or not.
So straightforward that like everybody guesses it
within the first.
Like, and I think the sweet spot is like,
if people start getting it like one to five minutes before
you're like, "Oh, okay, that's like the right area."
- I agree, it's like when people start figuring out
you put on your list of bad twists,
- Smollignit.
- Which I like.
- But I figured that out.
I was like, "It's a parasitic twin."
- It's parasitic twin.
- Oh yeah.
- Because it's like the fuck is a parasitic twin.
- Yeah, but you said you figured that out
on the first like two seconds of the movie.
I also have talked about this on the podcast
that I have this weird obsession with parasitic twins.
If anyone has a parasitic twin,
- It is weird.
- Please tell me all about it.
I wanna know, I wanna meet your parasitic twin.
- It is weird.
- I don't know.
- We can, I liked that movie, but the twist is a little jar.
- A parasitic twin isn't weird.
Your obsession with it is a little weird.
- I know.
- But no, I put that as a bad twist.
- I also really like a plot twist with an unreliable narrator.
And so like a lot of those stories have to occur
within the first person.
- Yeah.
- So like a really great example of that
is gonna be like a fight club.
- Oh yeah.
- Or like a memento.
And within a fight club, like you are seeing it through
his eyes and he's never named.
You just know Brad Pitt, who is Tyler Dirtin,
but you never know Edward Norton's character name.
- I didn't get that one spoiled for me
and I didn't see it until years after it came out.
- I was shook.
- I was like, oh I love Chuck Palinock.
- Oh it was great.
- And I actually have a signed book of his.
It's not fight club, but.
So I really like a twist like that.
I think where it's first person,
Shutter Island I guess is another one.
- Yeah, that one shook me too.
- Where I, well I guess it doesn't really fall
into the first person narrative,
but you are kind of bought.
- Would you say, would you agree goes in the first person?
- I think well you are watching this movie
and you come to trust,
I don't remember Leonardo Capriot's character name.
But you're seeing you the movie through his eyes.
You're trusting him.
You're like, oh he's our main character.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And at the end you're like, oh.
- He's been crazy this whole time.
- Oh yeah.
- And it's one of those things where at the end
you're like, okay now I need to rewatch that movie
to see if there's any little hints.
Throughout, it's like the most famous twist of all time,
probably is six cents, right?
- Yeah.
- And it's like upon rewatch you get to see those little hints
of like no one actually talks to Bruce Willis, right?
Like no one kind of talks around him,
but you don't realize that on your first watch.
And then you have to rewatch it and be like, okay,
I got this.
- Yeah, it is like the part of a good twist
is you kind of immediately want to rewatch the movie.
- Yeah, yeah.
- I think that is a great way to be like,
oh what does that mean?
Like I've definitely gone and like,
so one, one movie that I think like kind of tried
to have all these twists and turns,
but ultimately like left the audience so confused
that it didn't land, because you do risk running
into that territory as mother with Jennifer Lawrence.
I've never seen it, I've read plots and obses.
- Yeah, you've got the plots and obses on it.
- I've got the plots and obses on it.
- So confused on what do you mean?
And so, what do you mean?
Yeah, what do you mean?
- And so ultimately I think it goes back to that argument
of are you just trying to twist a twist?
Or is it like ultimately like kind of serving the--
- Serving the overall story.
- Yeah.
- I think one of my least favorite twists
and we talked about this earlier
is this movie Hancock with Will Smith,
where I remember the first half of that movie
thinking it was so cool.
It's this guy who has superpowers,
but he's just kind of like, he got a drinking problem.
He doesn't really care.
He's like, I don't want to be a superhero.
I just have enough superpowers.
So he moves in with Jason Bateman and his wife
who is Charlie's Theron.
And I guess because he saved Jason Bateman
from an accident or something, I don't know.
Coming to find out, oh, what's a twist?
Charlie's Theron's a superhero too.
And also it's Hancock's wife from his past life.
And it feels like they put two different movie scripts
and just smushed him together.
- I've seen that movie, but I remember none of it.
- I remember watching this movie in the beginning
and being like, this is a great movie.
And then halfway through, you're like, wait, oh,
I'm not enjoying this anymore.
It's like a weird rom-comic son.
And like, I don't know.
Jason Bateman's kind of cocked like--
(laughing)
- Jason.
- Jason, I had a sex dream about Jason Bateman
like a couple days ago.
Oh my God, I totally forgot.
- You're good.
- Yeah, he was great.
- Oh, okay.
- Yeah, he wasn't as good as Seth Meyers, but he was good.
- Okay.
- Well, okay.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, well, okay.
- But yeah, I could see how that would make sense.
And in your--
- Seth Meyers being a good lover.
- My sex dreams.
- Yeah, he's good.
Very attentive.
- Yeah.
- Anyway, watch the first half of Hancock
and then just turn it off and don't watch it.
- Just do not continue doing the time stamp.
- Do not keep stamps.
- You can have the last turn.
- I can, I'll post it on social media in the episode drops
because there's a very hardcore point where you're like,
oh, now this movie sucks.
And it's when the twist happens.
- Oh, okay.
So the twist like purely ruins the movie.
- It ruins the movie.
- In your mind.
- Yeah, absolutely.
I do have my favorite twist in "Sing of God of History."
- Which is?
- The Mist.
- Okay.
- It's a movie based on a Stephen King novel.
- Yeah.
- Horror movie, this Mist attacks a town, the world,
whatever and all these people are hiding in the grocery store.
And if you go onto the Mist, you're surely gonna die
'cause there's creatures in the Mist.
Okay, big spoiler for the Mist.
It came out so long ago.
3, 2, 1, here we go.
They get in a car at the end.
The main character in his surviving comrades or whatever.
And the car runs out of gas.
At this point, they're like, well, we're screwed.
And we're not, we don't have any food.
He has a gun with like four bullets in it.
He shoots everyone in the car dead,
including his own son.
And he doesn't have enough bullets to kill himself.
So he's just screaming in agony.
- Yeah.
- That what he had just done.
That very moment, the Army rolls in.
- The Army rolls in is like ready to save everyone.
I'm relatching that and just being like,
oh my God, you sit with that twist for so long
and you're just like Jesus Christ,
he has to live his whole life now,
going through this best twist I've seen, I think.
- Yeah.
- So the last time I watched the mist, I was in Malibu.
And we were staying at like this Airbnb.
And it was a former like Backstreet Boy,
like owner of the house.
- Oh, okay.
- So we're like really high in these Malibu mountains.
And then you Malibu and then you also yes.
- Okay.
- And so we are up there.
And there's a lot of mist in Malibu.
And I was like, you know what we should do?
- We should watch the mist.
- I tell everyone.
- And I was like, why would we do that?
- Why would we do that?
- I sat there by myself and watched the mist.
- I wouldn't watch it with you.
I love that movie.
I'll watch that movie by myself.
- Yeah.
- My watch was by myself.
- It was great.
- I remember watching Cabin in the woods
in a Cabin in the woods with my friends
'cause we were like, we should watch this movie.
- Yeah.
- Which is also a movie that has a pretty good twist.
Now that I think of it.
- It does have a great twist.
- It does have a great movie with a great twist.
- Yeah, that is a good movie.
- I love to show Cabin in the woods to people who are like,
oh, I hate horror.
Or they don't have like a respect for horror movies.
- It's actually Camp Horror.
- Yeah, because it's funny.
It really like, it knows what it's doing.
And it's kind of subverting.
- It's clever, it's fun.
- Traditional tropes and turning them upside down
and doing all those things.
- And that's a good twist when it like,
fucks with like what you expect a horror movie to be.
It's like, we think that this Cabin in the woods
is gonna be an evil dead situation with their zombies.
And like, but no, it's,
it's a government corporation.
- Yeah, and then to you all from dying.
- Exactly.
And they're all running bets about if the mermaid man
is gonna come this time.
Like, I love that movie.
- Yeah.
I really, really like that.
So pro tip, if you have someone in your life
who you're a horror lover and they do not love it,
like your significant other partner, get them to watch that.
It's a really good entry way into,
hey, some can be good.
And like for me, I like ghosts.
I like supernatural horror.
- Me too.
- I'm not a big rusem.
Like, it's totally me.
- With its torture porn.
- Like, saw, saw one is as a little too much for me.
But the twist at the end, it is great.
- Incredible.
- I do think that I've kept up with the story of saw.
I don't really like to watch it because it's so gratuitous.
- Me neither.
I can't do that.
- But I can't do that kind of horror because it's just like,
it seems so over the top and then just like,
new ways to watch bodies split apart.
And I'm not about that.
If it's exorcisms and ghosts and demons,
oh yeah, let's go.
But the first saw is a little more psychological
than like the subsequent ones.
Where there's actually like a mind fuck plot going on
and the twist at the end.
- That's great.
- So I think it's called CK's world.
He does like timeline breakdowns.
He does like full horror story like timelines and breakdowns.
So I watched his and it's the entire history of saw.
- That sounds interesting.
- So of like Jigsaw and how he became.
So like, I didn't have to watch the gross parts of it.
But the story behind it and like they do have some really good plot
to us of like the people who ultimately go through
this torture like join in.
- Why were they chosen to be part of the game?
- Yeah, and then as the saws go on,
they start to join in and give people these choices.
It has to contribute to that larger story
and make sense for the character like,
why are they doing this?
Especially if it's gonna be like a film franchise.
Like that brings me to another one of the greatest
plot twists of all time.
And Olivia and I had to confirm that this was a plot twist.
So in Star Wars, the original trilogy
when Luke finds out that Vader is his father to us,
I was born in '89, you were what, '92.
- '93.
- '93, Jesus Christ.
So we watched Star Wars when it would already been out
for a long time for the first time.
And so to me, I am your father was not a twist
'cause I already, it was so in bed in culture.
- Not culture, but I call my dad
who went to the Star Wars movies and saw them in theater
and said he stood in line for hours.
And he said that everyone was shook
when that line was dropped.
No, I am your father, you know it to be true.
He said it.
- Audible gas.
- Everyone was gasping and just shook.
And I was like, that's a great plot twist.
- Yeah.
- And sometimes that's the unfortunate part
of something being iconic and it can spoil it
for other generation.
- Yeah, like six cents was hell spoiled for me.
- Yeah.
- To this point, I still haven't seen that movie.
I'll be honest, I've never seen it.
- It's worth it.
- I think it probably is.
- It's worth it.
- But I was so salty with my friend spoiled it for me.
At my hair swimming at my house,
in the fourth grade or something stupid.
She's like, he said the craziest movie,
Embry's Fools was Dead the Hold.
- That's like the kid who wants to ruin Santa Claus for--
- Oh my god.
- Brother.
- Yeah.
Everyone's older brothers, older siblings.
Like, yeah, well, Santa's not real
and just really is your entire Christmas.
- So my brother took it the other way
and would give me coal and be like,
see Santa hates you.
- Santa thinks you're so bad.
(laughing)
- And then he was like, volunteer, I get soup kitchens
in like the fourth grade.
Just like, this is gonna be my year.
- I mean, Santa's fight, like it'll like me.
- If I'm gonna put it right,
like he was, he had a better long term strategy
to really add to the torment, you know.
- That's a life twist.
- Yeah.
- When we all found out Santa's the tooth bunny,
she's the tooth kidding.
I'm kidding.
- The tooth bunny.
(laughing)
- You didn't learn about the tooth bunny.
You know what I'm saying?
- Is that the movie teeth?
- That's a great movie.
That's a great movie.
- Yeah.
- That is a good one.
- Oh man, we're gonna talk about feminist film
in some future episode.
- Yeah.
We talked about it and good for her.
- That's true.
- And get to tired trope now.
Like we mentioned the sixth sense.
- The dead.
- The whole time trope.
- Yeah, the dead, the entire time.
- I'm not sure if I'm trying to.
- It was all a dream.
- Yeah.
- We hallucinated this whole thing.
Like even in Twilight when they have that whole segment
in the final movie, where like everyone dies.
And they're not like, oh no, this was just Alice's vision.
- Yeah.
- Like, I mean, it's an interesting segment,
but like, I don't know, it was all a dream
and they were dead the whole time.
- Yeah.
- It's kind of like that.
- I hate that it was all a dream.
One movie that I do really like with that,
they were dead the whole time though, is The Others.
- I've seen The Others.
- Okay, well I'm not gonna spoil it then.
- Oh my god, yeah, don't spoil it.
If it's for me, we can't spoil it.
We can spoil it, we can spoil it.
- We can spoil it, we can spoil it.
- Yeah, yeah.
- For each other.
- No, it's good.
- But it's gotta go to it.
- It's a couple of Kidmin, right?
- The commercials for that, I remember being young and there's like,
this little girl under this like lace like tablecloth
and she's like seeing a little creepy lullaby.
- Nope.
- And it to this day sticks with me.
- Nope.
- And the twist in the end is very, very good.
- Don't tell me.
- And so, I'm gonna watch that.
That's gonna be my Thursday movie.
When I always watch movies by myself on Thursday nights,
that'll be mine this week.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, it reminds me.
It's coral but still.
- I've sure I've told this story before.
I was out walking Buffy and taking her to go pee.
It was like starting to storm and like,
"We're in a little bit and it's getting kind of windy and dark."
And I see this little kid standing in the distance,
like in my apartment complex grass.
And he's just standing there like a creepy fucking horror movie kid.
- And looks at me and goes,
"You're going to die tonight."
- No.
Did I? I've never told you that.
Oh my god, I'm just, my...
Okay.
(laughing)
And Andrew's like, "Are you okay?"
I was like, "Ahhh."
- Can we like make sure all the children are all.
- Little kids, like that little kid horror for tonight.
- No, little kid horror for tonight.
Like the orphan is a really good twist as well.
- I've never seen a movie that I just know
the twist through pop culture.
- Yeah, the orphan has a great twist.
But yeah.
- And I think it was like a little kid like Damien.
- It's open year day.
- Yeah, you know, like I always think those are like
the iconic ones that are like really old people.
- Yeah.
- No, I mean, I, okay, I'm gonna put orphan on my list too.
The second orphan is very good as well.
- I'm just a orphan too.
- Orphan two has a great plot twist as well.
- Another twist.
- Yeah.
- Shit, a twist within a twist.
- A twist within a twist.
- A twist?
- Which I guess we can't talk about the plot twist
of a movie without mentioning inception.
- Oh my gosh, inception is so good with such a good twist.
- Yeah, I totally forgot about inception.
- Yeah, like a twist within a twist within a twist.
- Yes, I love that.
- And while when you would explain kind of the levels
in the way of it, I think he did a great job on it
where it just like created like almost like a tornado
of how do you know what exists.
- Exactly.
- And like you still don't even know
what the top of the end.
- Yeah, I love those movies too.
Where the person that you see them with,
you go get like a drink or cup of coffee right after the movie
and you both just sit there and like talk about it
and discuss it and you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Did this mean this and the other person's like,
no, didn't you notice this?
Like I love those kinds of movies.
- Yeah.
- I'm just breaking it all down.
That reminded me of another great twist that I liked,
which is it did fall into their dead the whole time trope,
but gravity with Sandra Bullock and George Clooney.
- I've seen it.
- Such a good movie.
(laughing)
For the show you cannot hear our producer,
she said there's a twist.
- There's a twist in that movie.
Okay, so gravity, they're in space like Sandra Bullock
and George Clooney are these two astronauts
and Sandra Bullock is, do you mind if I spoil this?
- Yeah.
- So you're good.
- I think I actually have seen this.
Now that you're saying this face part.
- I'm out to fix something on the ship
and the cord becomes attached to something
and she's essentially floating through space, right?
- Yes, or do I know?
- Or do I know?
- And George Clooney's dead the whole time.
She's just hallucinating talking to him.
- Oh wow.
- I wish I could apparently have producer wasn't she?
(laughing)
- That sounds like a very distant memory to me,
but maybe you were, I did tell you earlier
that when people say, oh, I wish I could reread
that book again or like,
re-remember this piece of media.
I'm like, give it a couple of years and I will forget.
- It's all gone.
- It's just gone.
- It's gonna be gone.
I'm like, I don't know.
- Oh my God.
That also reminds me of like movies with good twists
that are based on books.
So I mentioned earlier that one of my old friends
from high school spoiled for everyone
that Snape killed Dumbledore at the movie premiere for it.
- And I guess half blood friends.
Is that the one that killed Dumbledore?
And everyone who was in the line who had read the book
was like, what a dick, we all know that.
But like people, there's people who definitely write
all the books who used to like the movies
and they're just like, what the fuck?
Like they're a real slither in that group of them.
- I'm a slither in.
- Well, excuse you.
We're not all that.
(laughing)
- They fuck jacket rolling.
- Yeah.
- I'm a slither.
- Yeah.
- But that was a great twist, I think.
And then you have to wait for the next book to come out
to find out, okay, is Snape good or Snape bad?
I remember they were like selling merch and you could choose.
Like one was like, Snape is a good guy
and then it was like, Snape is a bad guy
and you had to wait to find out.
But yeah, good book twist.
You wanna know what the real worst twist of them all is?
- I sure do.
- JK Rowling becoming a turd.
- I'm becoming a turd.
- God, watch it twist.
(laughing)
- Yeah, she could've had it all but she blew it, man.
- She fucking blew it.
- Yeah.
- There's also another twist.
- Hmm.
(laughing)
- I'm actually Nicole.
(laughing)
- Hey.
- Is that you're Nicole impression?
- Hey.
- You're scuby dude being the center.
- I'm scuby dude.
- What a guy.
- You legally blonde being the scuby dude being.
(laughing)
- Man.
- What a twist.
- If you don't remember.
- We love you Nicole, we miss you.
- Yeah, we do.
If you don't remember the legally blonde,
is you told me to show up in a costume
and I was came in a costume.
- Okay, she the fair.
I never said come in a costume.
I said and I quote,
where your best spooky swimwear.
- The next swimwear.
- It was a Halloween swim party.
- I loved your costume and this Halloween,
we're gonna have great costumes.
- Yes.
- No matter what they are.
- I agree.
(laughing)
- The real twist is the memories we made along the way.
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- While we could talk on and on about our favorite plot twist,
I do wanna get into a little bit of some current pop culture.
So what have you been obsessed with this week?
- I wanna talk about a movie that I watched very recently
that I really liked.
- Okay.
- It's called The Green Night.
It came out in 2021.
It stars Dev Patel.
- Mm.
- Bubba.
- Who I love.
- What a good-looking man.
- He really is.
- My great actor.
It's a A24 pic so you know it's gonna be amazing.
- I mean, it's a media-like gonna be good.
- But it's really like,
it's got that A24 art style where it's kind of like
ominous and dark, but it's not a horror movie.
It's very suspenseful, but it's based on an English folklore
where it's medieval nights and Dev's character,
Sir Goen wants to be a knight, but he's not very knightly.
He spends most of his time having sex with his kind of
brothel-employed lover.
- So he drinks a lot.
- Dancer dragons, why am I saying?
- Yeah, but he doesn't seem like a crispy call.
- He's a little crispy call.
- He doesn't seem like a bad guy.
He's just kind of like, yeah, I wish I was a knight,
but at the same time, I like drinking and smoking
and I'm drinking and I like it.
- Yeah.
- And then one year, Christmas,
he is also the King's nephew.
This knight comes in.
The Green Night, who seems to kind of be like
made of trees and leaves.
He's one with nature and offers up a game to everybody there.
And if anyone is brave enough to face him,
they will get honor and riches.
I will not spoil it.
And of course, Sir Goen is like, I'll do it.
Yeah, 'cause he wants to kind of show off how cool he is
and brave he is.
That's setting forth a wonderful movie with just like
action and twists, honestly.
- And a two-wheels.
- There's twists throughout this movie
that I was shook a couple times.
And I remember saying out loud at one point, no.
- Oh, yeah.
- And I was like, okay.
All right.
So I'm absolutely gonna pop the Green Night.
- Okay.
- 2021.
I don't remember where we streamed it.
I think we had to pay like $3.99 a rip.
- Okay.
- But it was great.
- Okay.
- I'm compelled.
I will check it out.
- Absolutely.
- I love it.
- I watched it 24 good.
- And Deft Betel is so, he's such a good character
because he messes up over and over again
throughout the movie where it's like all these opportunities
to do the right thing, keep popping up.
- Yeah.
- And he's like not doing it.
- Do you want to say that?
- And you're like, oh, come on, come on.
But it's a great movie.
- What about you, Liv?
- Well, I have essentially an unspoilable show to recommend
because it is based on Greek mythology.
- Okay.
- So we already know what's gonna happen.
- Everything that's going to happen.
But it just came out on Netflix, actually.
- Oh, I don't care.
- It's called K-Ox.
- Yes.
- So it has a Jeff Goldblum as a Zeus,
Janet McTier as Hera, Stefan Delaene as Prometheus,
and just a whole host of different characters.
It is so funny.
It's so good.
I love Jeff Goldblum.
I think he's only getting hotter as he ages.
- Oh, what the hell is he?
- He's just like a man from Jurassic Park to, you know,
today, he can find a way in me.
- But he plays such a good job of like the,
his casusean Greek mythology is known as like this,
like arrogant, like power under ladies man.
- And this whole, yeah, who just like demands respect
and is like quite petty.
And I think he plays like gives the character
like a lot of playfulness where you can still kind of like him,
but you know, he's gonna ask whole.
And you know, it's just kind of like a hatching lent child,
ultimately, but it's so good.
I binge it all yesterday.
- And that's to give it a lot.
- I have 30 minutes left in the ending of it,
but it's really good.
And as you know, by us discussing all the books we read,
we do love a mythology in this house.
- Oh, absolutely.
- Of course, we're gonna have to pop that one,
but very, very good.
- I'm gonna get it a while.
- I've been saying a lot of good things about it.
It's chaos with a K, right?
- Yeah, chaos with a K.
- Love that.
I'm gonna give it a try.
- I also spinyly started Iron Flame speaking of reading
and stuff to our reading.
- To our reading fans.
Oh my God, I'm only 100 pages in, but I'm so obsessed.
- Yeah.
- So, we're excited to hear your thoughts.
- Yes, I'm Cheryl Finish, it was in the end five months.
- No, dude, I got through fourth wing
and like really fast, like a week or two.
So I'm gonna speed through it.
- Yeah, I just gotta talk shit to you.
So that way you'll like read it faster.
- Then I'll be guilty.
- Yes, mommy.
- Yeah, it's like, you know, when your coach is like really mean to you.
- Yeah.
- But it makes you work harder in spite of it.
- It reminds me of the bear, like,
- Yeah.
- Carly's guy who's like, kill yourself
and he's like, "Yes, chef, God!"
- That's how I am with reading.
- Good to know.
- The literacy crews in the company.
- Now it's time to reveal our plot twist.
Sean and I have been dead this entire time.
This entire episode, it's all been a dream.
- Mmm.
- We're dead.
- We're dead and we're also in a dream.
- Dad.
- A dead dream.
- A dead dream within a dream within a dream.
- Within a dream within a dream.
- Yes.
- Just like Christopher Nolan would want it.
- And even though we're dead,
we still want you to find us on social media.
So Sean, let the people know where they can find your gorgeous face.
- We might be dead, but we're still pretty.
- Yes.
- I think we would say.
- Yes.
- You can find me, Shauna Trinidad,
@shaunatrinidad on Instagram and TikTok.
I always forget that I have a TikTok.
It's there.
- Yeah.
- S-H-A-U-N-A-T-R-I-N-I-D-A-D.
- And you can find me, Olivia, on Instagram,
@livimariez L-I-V-I-M-A-R-I-E-Z.
- And don't forget, you can find the pop culture junkie podcast,
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- Yeah.
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