There's nothing like go-to-old fashion fear of being beaten or Krampus-napped to hell.
Yeah, there's there really is nothing quite like it.
So they combine the two icons both showing up at your place on December 5th,
Krampusnacht to either give you presents or you know the other stuff.
Krampus even started being referred to as Santa's Shadow.
Oh, yes.
Very spooky.
Ho ho ho, Caitlyn.
Ho ho ho, Cassie.
Ho ho ho, creepy people.
I kinda like that.
Hello.
If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW, Haunts and Homicides,
where we chat about true crime, paranormal, and all things creepy and ho ho ho-y,
in the Pacific Northwest.
That's amazing.
We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for deeper insight into our topic for the week.
So make sure you stick around if you're into that.
Yes, and this week Cassie sounds sick, but she doesn't always.
True.
Well, today is, if you hadn't already guessed, a holiday themed episode.
Woo, woo, from the window to the walls.
Skeet, skeet.
I loved that video, Caitlyn, just showed me the funniest fucking video ever.
Yeah, we're gonna have to figure out how to share that.
We're just linking.
Yeah, we'll show notes too.
I love it.
Just in case.
Yeah.
If you don't follow us on the socials, what are you doing?
Yeah.
We're hilarious.
I agree.
I loved my stories about the dolls where I was like, it's one person's heaven and another person's hand.
It's very true.
I actually had a listener reach out and say they were house sitting somewhere and they were concerned about listening to that episode, you know.
I would be too.
All by themselves and I said, no, no, no, no, no, it's not that scary.
It wasn't that scary.
It wasn't that scary, but I guess, okay, so for the people who weren't editing it, there was a lot of weird sounds.
There were some shenanigans.
There were a lot of weird sounds and I know we were recording over the internet and they weren't using professional mics.
But there were some creepy shit in there.
I don't know what was happening, but mostly the editing took it out.
There was one that I couldn't take out.
It was like over her voice or under her voice.
It sounded like robotic.
It was really creepy.
So I don't know if anyone caught that.
Okay.
So Cassie was the one, I think, most scared by that episode.
And I love that for her.
Yeah.
In the end, I ended up being like, oh my god, I...
Is this editing over with "I'm sick of hearing EVPs"?
Oh my god.
Well anyway, today is a less scary topic.
Is this the holiday?
You know, we got to keep it light around here.
So...
All right.
Well, you know, also keeping it creepy.
We're baubles deep into December.
Feeling so festive with your little joke and then that song, it's just...
It went perfectly together.
It really did.
Wow.
So as much as I love Halloween, we all know that's not a secret.
No.
And I have some issues with the religious aspect of Christmas.
You know, that's fair.
So I've kind of switched over to kind of more saying I celebrate like yuletide or winter solstice and that kind of thing.
But, you know, technically my whole family still celebrates Christmas and it does hold a little special place in my heart.
I grew up with it.
So, yeah.
It's kind of a magical time, magical season.
Very magical.
Especially when I can continue to watch Nightmare before Christmas.
Which I did last night.
Love it.
And Jack visiting Christmas Town is like my top favorite scenes in the movie.
You know that.
You've seen Nightmare before Christmas, right?
I have.
It's been quite a few years.
I've been thinking about it a lot this year that I should probably rewatch it.
You should.
Okay.
So he visits Christmas Town and he's like, what's this?
What's this?
He's, you know, he's never seen all the glittery snow and he's all excited and that's how he filled during Christmas.
Even though, you know, Halloween, I feel it more, I think.
Definitely Christmas.
Christmas is special.
It's warm.
Warm and fuzzy.
Did you know that the Pacific Northwest has its very own Christmas town?
Yes.
Did you?
I did.
I didn't honestly before this.
I didn't.
I really did.
It has nothing to do with Nightmare before Christmas.
It's just, you know, they're both called Christmas Town.
So adorable, but it's still extremely magical.
And I think a quote from this locations website is in order.
Of course.
Leavenworth, Washington is a charming Bavarian village nestled in the picturesque Cascade Mountains known for its unique architectural style and festive atmosphere.
The village transports visitors to a quaint European setting.
The town exudes a lively ambiance throughout the year with seasonal decorations and events.
Visitors can explore the village's charming shops and dine on Authentic German cuisine.
Sample locally brewed beers.
Very important.
Excellent.
And immerse themselves in the vibrant festivities and cultural experiences.
It's an experience that will leave you saying, "Holy schnitzel!"
Adorable.
That's on their website.
So freaking cute.
Holy schnitzel.
So have you been to Leavenworth?
I have.
Yeah.
Is it beautiful?
It's gorgeous.
I've never been.
I've been, I think it was in the fall time.
So it wasn't like snowing, but it was on the chillier side, certainly in the evenings.
And all of the buildings are so cute.
It's so quaint, it does look like a little old, tiny European town.
Oh my god, I have to go someday.
Was it all lit up when you went?
No, I don't think they had any of their, like, kind of seasonal stuff before Thanksgiving.
Exactly.
Yeah.
2010, I was there.
Oh my god, that was like a decade ago.
Yeah.
So they Christmas by the town and it stays lit up from Thanksgiving through February.
So y'all still have time to go, like plenty of time.
That's, yeah, it's quite the window.
And they do all sorts of fun events, I'll link the website so you can go check it out.
My mommy actually just went with her friends.
Yeah, she said it was gorgeous.
She sent me a couple of pictures.
Oh good.
And she said it was so much fun.
And when she told me she was going, I'm going to be honest, I'd never heard of it.
I just, I don't know, there's some things that are very popular that I've never heard about.
Yeah.
And this is why I'm doing the podcast.
I can learn about them.
That's fair.
Also, I just realized I went in June.
Oh.
I did not go in the fall.
Okay, was it cold though still?
It was chilly in the evening.
Yeah, for sure.
But.
So when she told me she was going, I looked it up and then I was actually really, really excited for her to go.
But not for pictures of snowy mountains and lights because when I think Germany and Christmas,
what comes to mind for me, I wanted her to be my personal Krampus paparazzi.
Ooh.
So the first thing I saw when I went on to the website was this little blurb on old crampy saying that the weekend closest to Krampusnacht knocked.
Krampusnacht.
December 5th.
You might see Krampus costumes around town.
It goes on to state that they're not having an official Krampusnacht. celebration.
Okay.
So quote, please plan accordingly if this is a concern.
And I was like, huh.
That's interesting.
I wonder why people would be concerned about the big, lovable old Krampy-pus.
You know?
It certainly couldn't be his delightfully demonic appearance.
Oh, no.
Big and hairy with goat-like horns.
Yeah.
I mean, no notes.
And a long tongue protruding out to glide across to sharp fangs.
Okay. What about this tongue thing now that's weird.
And of course, since he's named after the word krampen, which means claw.
Oh.
He has to have the perfect set of terrifying clawses.
Ooh.
Phalanges.
So Krampus comes from Bavaria, Germany and Austria's Alpine region, which I assume is around the Alps.
Yeah.
That's exactly what it means.
It sounds like.
Yeah.
I was like, I feel like that's pretty straightforward, but no, it is.
I mean, I literally just picture.
I don't know if this is actually accurate, but I just picture the sound of music.
She's running through the hills because the hills are alive with music.
Pretty sure that was based in Austria.
And people skiing.
Yeah.
Definitely skiing.
Yeah.
And I've found since BC (before Christmas) and kicked off Yule or winter solstice as a symbol of evil.
Working naughty children with sticks.
Yeah.
Eating them or just playing throwing them in a sack and dragging them to the underworld or hell, whichever you prefer.
Great.
I would prefer neither.
Sounds like a fun time.
Okay.
I'm having second thoughts about that pillow in light of that.
Oh.
Be naughty, save Santa the trip.
That's actually pretty interesting that you put that pillow out, totally relates.
I had no idea.
But they're kind of, they kind of go on the trip together.
We'll talk about it.
Yeah.
We'll talk about it.
Oh my God.
So the whole dragging kids to hell thing is kind of interesting because Krampus is the son
of Hel.
Hey, H E L, is from Norse mythology, which I was kind of confused about how that was connected
to Germany.
So obviously I looked it up basically because of traveling.
Yeah.
The Illinois Library website says, quote, Germanic mythology is synonymous with Norse mythology.
Anywho, Hel is the queen of the Norse realm of the dead known as Hellheim or just Hell?
Oh.
Sounds kind of familiar.
Yeah, a little bit.
And she is the daughter of Loki.
Okay.
We all know him, Trixi Little Trixter.
Yeah.
Krampus has quite the pedigree.
Yeah.
And literally every single thing in Judeo-Christian religions is just taken from pagan and other indigenous
cultural and religious beliefs apparently.
Yeah.
As if we weren't already aware.
Yeah.
But you know, you just got to drill it in.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Okay.
So insert Catholicism and Christianity into the mix.
And now there is a Saint Nicholas, everyone's obsessed with.
I guess being the patron saint of children comes with its benefits like your very own day.
Okay.
Nikolaustag.
Oh my goodness.
Not how you say it.
Nikolaustag.
Nikolaustagt.
Nikolaustag.
Do you need me to look it up?
Nikolaustagt.
It's just like the word, the letters are all weird because Nicholas is N-I-K-O-L-A-U-S and
then T-A-G.
Nikolaustag.
Which happens to be December 6th, the day after Krampusnacht.
Okay.
So now all of a sudden there's a symbol of goodness to go with all the evil of Krampus.
Super long story short.
Catholics try to ban Krampus for being too devil-y.
Okay.
Like honestly who was first the devil or the Krampus?
Right.
That's fair.
But eventually people decided that they liked the whole good versus evil thing and they
wanted to keep the legend alive.
Well, what they really wanted was for to me to take out the trash and, uh, yeah.
You know what I mean?
That's where I'm going with that.
And hey, it keeps kids in line better than just getting a lump of coal, right?
There's nothing like go-to-old fashion fear of being beaten, eaten or Krampus-napped to hell.
Yeah.
There's, there really is nothing quite like it.
So they combine the two icons, both showing up at your place on December 5th, Krampusnacht
to either give you presents or, you know, the other stuff.
Krampus even started being referred to as Santa's shadow.
Oh, yeah.
Spooky.
Very spooky.
Okay.
So you remember Leavenworth in the Krampus Sighting Warning?
Yeah.
There's actually a reason for that.
In 2020, a volunteer-based nonprofit quote, “Troupe of Thespians bringing the traditional
Austrian Krampus folklore to America, known as Krampus Seattle."
Ooh.
They took to the snowy streets of Leavenworth for a Krampuslauf, which is basically a Krampus
cosplay parade.
Hello.
They actually have very beautifully-made masks and costumes and stuff.
It's really cool.
That sounds amazing.
I, goals is to see a Krampuslauf in person.
Wow, wow, wow.
I kind of joke that I was going to come show up as Krampus today because I looked so terrible.
It's on theme.
The people seemed to love it and the town's event organizers officially invited them back
the next year and promoted the Kramp out of it.
I love that.
From the Krampus enthusiast perspective, the event went great, but three was not the
charm in this case and they were not invited back for 2022.
Oh, no, why?
I'll tell you.
Oh, no.
A crosscut.com article says, "Community leaders were pressured by a small but vocal group who
objected to the Krampus Seattle group last year, arguing that their presence didn't mesh
with the events and the friendly reputation."
What?
Okay, but also culturally that's definitely in the correct vibe, right?
And it's like it's one day.
Come on.
God.
To which I say, a new breed of Karen was born and that is the Krampus Karen, Krampus Karen,
the Krampus Karen's Unite.
Yeah.
So, ultimately, people are allowed to come dressed up, but not in any official events organized
by 11 worth leaders.
So that is why there is a warning to plan accordingly if you don't want to see the Krampus,
don't fucking come on Krampusnacht.
Seriously.
But it's sad.
They can't have their big old fun Krampuslauf.
What was it?
Krampuslauf party?
Yeah.
But, Seattle Krampus is not wallowing.
They have plenty of other events to attend, including Santa Con, which I didn't really know
was a thing, but that sounds fun.
Yeah.
Enjoying other Krampus groups for the huge Krampusnacht celebration in downtown Bremerton,
Washington, where the event was received with open arms.
Open...claws?
Open claws.
Yeah.
They even have a list of fun, themey things to attend in the town, like a naughty versus
nice wrestling match between Santa and Krampus.
Stop it.
That happened last night, actually.
I am obsessed.
Next year we have to go.
We're going.
That sounds really fun.
I'm not a huge, like, wrestling fighting.
I don't really like that kind of stuff, but if it's Santa versus Krampus, I probably
will watch it.
I mean, come on.
Oh my God, I just had a flashback.
Do you remember that, like, clay-mation wrestling show?
Oh my God.
It was like on MTV.
I hold on.
I will look it up.
Celebrity Death Match.
Yes.
Oh my God.
That show is so fun.
That's what this reminds me of.
Yeah.
It's definitely...it's giving celebrity Death Match.
Definitely.
I wonder if they had a Krampus Santa episode of that.
Ooh.
They should have.
We're going to investigate that.
Oh.
They did have a Jerry Seinfeld versus Tim Allen.
Oh.
And Tim Allen played Santa Claus.
That's true.
Jerry Seinfeld could be Krampus.
I love that for him.
So now I have a quote from Erin Hale in this.
This is from the KrampusBremerton.com.
Krampus now challenges the Christmas Capitalistic Pressure to somehow match Santa's mythological
generosity.
What if we simply celebrated the good gratitude and greatness in each other instead?
What if Krampus is here to be celebrated as a reminder that we have the choice to be
kind, patient, and compassionate?
Oh.
I like that.
I know.
I think that perfectly sums up kind of what Krampus is about because he is scary, but it is
cool to kind of have that the opposite ends, like showing you what really bad is and showing
you what really good is.
Right.
This is a reminder.
But now some people say Krampus is getting just as popular and commercialized as Santa.
With places like the Peculiarium hosting mocktails with Krampus, Saturday, December 23rd,
stop it.
Or Raven's Manor having a themed menu featuring the Krampus Martini.
Ooh.
Designed for the icy Germanic demon himself.
Oh, yes.
Krampus cookies.
6.66 ounces of chocolate chip wither without walnut.
Served with a cold glass of milk or almond milk.
And if you need a little more of a hearty meal, order up the child stew in a bread bowl.
Oh.
Yeah.
Literally have.
There's something called child stew and I fucking died.
It's just like, how do you order that?
You know?
I think I would just say, I'd like the stew, please.
Childless stew.
Also fun fact about me.
I love bread bowls.
I do too.
So fucking.
So incredible.
Like sourdough bread bowl.
Nothing better.
I will eat the entire bread bowl.
Yeah.
Don't test me.
Yeah.
I would never.
They also have a Grinch drink, which I had to bring up because I'm wearing my Grinch
sweater today.
Hello.
And it's green.
Got rain.
I want to go get it.
So this brings me to our last little bit here.
We visited the Kampus.
We'll set up through the veil.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
That feels like a lifetime ago.
I know.
We took a bunch of photos.
Chris took our photos.
Thank you, Chris.
And we had little Christmas cards made from them that we're sending to our Patreon.
Hi.
Happy Patreon holidays.
Yeah.
You get a holiday card.
We're calling it a holiday card because everyone celebrates Christmas.
Yeah.
So that'll be fun.
They're really cute.
Yeah.
They turned out super cute.
Yeah.
So if you're in town, go visit over there, visit Krampus, check out all of the amazing stuff
that they have in the store.
Like I can't even.
Yeah.
Actually, this is one of my purchases from...
Oh yeah, it is.
Yeah.
And we also have a couple other purchases we made there.
We got little mystery tarot cards.
And the one I ended up opening it in the store because you can either leave it on their
altar and like write, write a wish on it or something that you want and leave it on
their altar.
So that was my plan.
And then I opened it and I got the double card, which eerily kind of looks like Krampus.
It has a very long protruding tongue and horns.
I cannot.
So I had to take it with me, of course.
And it has like the back of the card kind of looks very Christmasy, kind of like literally
just notice that today.
So it was totally perfect. We brought it to put on our altar today to show off because
it was just too...the Krampus connection was too much.
It's just too good.
And then Caitlyn has her mystery tarot.
I think she wants to open it today too.
Yeah.
So we'll do that and we'll pull a card from my nightmare before Christmas deck for the
tarot reading and that will be that.
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Well, of course.
Okay, before tarot, we're doing things.
We're doing things.
Okay.
What are we opening, Caitlyn?
We have so many fun things to open.
We have not checked our PO box for a little while.
So we have an atorabal Halloween postcard that we received.
But it's so cute.
I know.
I'm going to read it.
Please do.
It's spooky season.
Thank you both so much for your excellent podcast.
Your banter, wit, and excellent storytelling is a highlight of my week.
Stay spooky.
From Danny.
Oh, thank you, Danny.
You wanna...
I love this because I was just talking about how I love Christmas.
But I love Halloween.
And there's something Halloweeny.
Oh, I love Halloweeny.
Okay.
And then I already opened this one because I knew who it was going to be from.
Because I recognize the handwriting.
So this came from True Crime, Cat Lawyer.
Oh, Hi Elyse.
Oh, Winston.
We love her.
Yeah.
So flipping cute.
And she sent us a little sticker peac.
Of course she did.
She's always so good with the stickers.
I know.
Look at this little Christmas Winston.
It's adorable.
Oh, I love it.
I really want Winston on the pod.
I know.
So many things.
And we have this.
What's that?
This came from Caitlin.
Caitlyn, who?
Not me.
Hi, Caitlin.
Oh, this is so cute.
Happy holiday.
Got that Lumberjack plaid on there.
Right?
It's not Lumberjack plaid, but all plaid is Lumberjack to me.
Okay.
I'm going to read this to you.
Caitlyn and Cassie.
What's up?
Thank you for everything you have done to help me this year.
I look forward to helping you both in the future to gain more viewers.
Also, I look forward to doing something together in person, which we are working on.
Yeah.
I'm so excited.
I love meeting everybody.
I know.
Literally.
I love it.
I love people.
I know I would say people, but I love my people.
Yeah.
No, that's the difference.
Anyways, hope you enjoy your gifts.
Happy holidays, Caitlin.
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
My eyes are tearing up.
I'm not crying.
She's not crying, though.
Oh no.
Oh my god.
What?
Okay.
There's candy cans.
Yes.
And there's two little wrapped things in here.
Okay.
One has tarot cards on it and one has a Ouija board.
So I feel like the tarot cards might be for you.
That feels on brand.
Oh my god.
Is this a sucker?
Yes.
This is the cutest fucking thing I've ever seen.
We'll take closer pictures.
Oh my god.
Where did you get this?
Oh my god.
I am obsessed.
Mine's blackberry pear.
Ooh.
Oh yeah.
I did see the Skittles right on top.
So those are already gone.
Oh my gosh.
This is so cute.
Stop it.
A tarot card.
Scented bath bomb.
Oh my god.
Yours is so cute.
Look at this.
Ooh.
It's so excited for this.
What is your scent?
Um, a biscuit.
I love a biscuit.
What's yours?
Rose.
Do we need a trade?
What do you want?
I love Rose.
Thank you, Kate.
I was.
We traded.
Oh my gosh.
I'm taking a bath like tonight.
I don't have a tub, but I will find one.
I have a tub.
I actually do.
Okay.
I'm house sitting.
So I do have access to a tub.
Actually, this is perfect.
This is so perfect.
I'm so excited.
I all have a tub, Kate.
I'm so excited.
I'm going to take a video.
So excited.
Yeah.
I was just going to say.
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
What else is in here?
Oh my gosh.
Oh.
Self-care thing.
Oh.
Oh my gosh.
Oh.
Self-care thing.
Oh.
Oh my gosh.
Oh.
Self-care thing.
and a boob mask! I love this! It has bows for your tea toss. This is amazing. I'm gonna smear
this all over my boobs and butt and it's gonna be great. We're not gonna take pictures of that.
Oh my god! This is amazing! I'm so excited. Thank you so much, Caitlin. You're literally the fricken
sweetest. That was excitement. Should we do our little tarot? Okay. Are we gonna do my envelope
tarot? Do your mystery first. You're just gonna break open a candy cane right now. I know.
Ooh! What is it? That's the backside of the car. Hey girl! Cute skulls? Five of pentacles.
Dropping that money. Oh no! Is it not good? Yeah, the five of pentacles is that's throwing away
money. That's misleading. Oh! Look at the... Can you see that? Oh, that's right. I do remember that one.
Wasn't that a Christmas episode too? That we got that. It was the train wreck one. I don't know if
that was Christmas, maybe it was the train wreck snowy one. Yeah. That is okay. So it's a snowy
car. That's interesting. Maybe it just relates to this episode, you know? Oh my god, it does.
Okay. I found it already. Often this car depicts a couple or a family in an attitude of humility,
poverty or hardship. Their desperation and suffering are evident. Sometimes a stained glass
church window appears above them, which indicates emphasizing spiritual values over material ones.
Oh, okay. Wow. It's not just a season about stuff. Yeah. That was a big part of this episode,
because Krampus represents the commercialization of Christmas. I cannot believe that. You got a
Krampus and I got a card that was like, "Hey, maybe don't make everything about stuff." Wow,
that's really cool. I love that. There you go. Okay. Oh, I got the lovers. Stop it. We did. That's so fun.
It was Christmasy, but yeah, it was technically in reverse when I looked at it, but I just felt like
it was in, I flipped it and that's how it was. So it's in upright for me. Okay. In my brain.
Lovers, Missilto. I know I feel so bad. I wanted to get some Missilto and I just
I thought about it once and it went out of my brain and I forgot my Missilto headband, but I
wore that Missilto headband to kiss Krampus in the pictures. It did. That's so cute.
All I want for Christmas is Krampus or Krampus. Yeah. Okay. So, oh, this is interesting. Cassie, our key
words are partnership union of opposites. Oh, partnership like Santa and Krampus union of opposites.
Look at us. I know. We're so witchy. Choices, harmony, cooperation, choices, choice between good
and evil. Yeah. Cooperation. Don't be naughty and get beaten by Krampus with sticks. Yeah.
Yeah. The lovers card usually shows a man and woman, but they're the similarities and in some
decks, they're naked in others, they're clothes. Some decks show the couple touching, even engaged in
a passionate embrace, whereas others place them on opposite sides of the card, perhaps with a
winged being overlooking them. Alla, garden of Eden. There's that. The winged beings are back.
You'll even find decks that present three people on the card as if a third party who might be a
young person or an older parental figure is influencing their relationship like a Krampus card.
Oh, or like a child influencing, you know, which is going to be either way. Although many people
interpret this card as representing romantic love, it's really about the union of opposites,
your own dual nature. Wow. This is so cool. I love this. That doesn't rule out romance in your future
if the lovers shows up in a reading. It just means union has many meanings other than male female
coupling. Yeah, it does. And trusting. Okay, so let's do our upright interpretation. I also just
got a flash of Krampus and Santa wrestling. I love that. This is a card of cooperation, of working
together with others to accomplish a joint purpose. A joint purpose. You're not even the stoner.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're allegedly. We've got some ideas.
When it appears upright, it signifies an attraction and partnership of some kind, not only the
romantic variety. It can also suggest you're uniting disparate parts of yourself. The lovers
represents a period of harmony in personal or professional matters. Sometimes it indicates
you need to make a choice between two things you value, but you'll make the right decision.
Or you'll get dragged to hell. I was like, I'm just going to wait for it. Or put into stew.
In a reading about money, you can profit from combining your resources with someone else's.
That's amazing. Sometimes the lovers symbolizes benefiting from a partner's money or marrying into
wealth. I got this card recently for someone else that I was doing a reading for. And I was like,
oh, yeah, you did. If you're seeking a financial backer, this card gives you a thumbs up.
If the reading is about your job, this card represents a time of cooperation, contentment, and harmony.
Joint projects are favored now. Two forces have united toward a common goal.
The lovers can also signify meeting a partner through work or working through
working with a romantic partner in business.
Krampus Santa. Yeah. This is Claus. Watch out. This is Claus. This is Claus. What if Mrs. Claus is crampus?
I don't know. Every picture I've seen of her is like a cute little old grandma in disguise. What if she
comes out as crampus? I love this conspiracy theory that I just created. She cooked that up right
click. That was that's something. Mrs. Claus doesn't even have a first name. You know what I mean? We just
call her Mrs. Claus. We need to look into that. Does she have a first name? Like, is there any mythology
there where she is? There's got to be, right? Yeah. I mean in the claymation one where he meets her,
she has a name, but I don't remember what it is. Okay. Well, anyway, put a pin in that
in a reading about love, this card boats well for a romantic relationship. It shows mutual caring
and attraction, a rewarding partnership that brings out the best in both people. Sometimes it means
a decision in connection with a love relationship. Yeah. This whole thing is just like, I good versus
evil, Krampus, Santa. Like, yeah, their whole relationship. That's so cool. I just realized there's
a card on the ground. What? There's a card on the ground. Holy shh. Holy schnitzel. Holy schnitzel.
It's the five of presents. So yeah, I'm very curious. I guess it just fell down when I was doing
something or other. Five of pinnacles in my... Oh yeah. Oh, is presents pinnacles? What do we decide?
I don't remember. That would be weird. I would not be surprised though. Yeah, candles would be ones.
Presence would be pinnacles, needle swords, push and scuops. Wow! This is just on the floor. Five
five presents. We don't even need to read it because we read it already. Wow. But I don't know when it
looks like presents. That is so... Yeah, I cannot believe that. That is really cool. I wonder if you could
see it in the video when it fell out. Oh, I don't know. I probably think they're gonna fall off the bottom
or something. Yeah, that's so cool. What are the odds that we buy two little tarot readings
out through the veil? And one of them looks like crampus. One of them is five of... I pentacles.
And then this other five pinnacles drops out. Weird. Okay. People are gonna literally...
They're gonna be thinking we're making this up. I just... They watched it. I mean, we didn't...
I'm always afraid that people are gonna be like, "Woooo!" Well, and if you want to see, I pulled this
card out in a video and I put it with the little reel and TikTok I made for the through the veil
episode. Yeah, that's right. And I pulled it out. So that was me literally opening it right there.
I feel like are we gonna have conspiracy theories about our terrestrial beings? I hope so. Can we
start a Reddit thread on the conspiracy theory for us? Maybe. I really don't want that because
they're so good. Like they're really right on. I... That's why I want it to be like so above board
that people know they're real. Yeah. They do. Oh, this is so cool. I need a candy cane and a nap.
Drink. We have to open gifts still. Oh, oh my god. Yeah. So let's end it for normal people. And then
we're gonna continue opening gifts for our Patreon. Okay. Have a creep miss crampus not.
With a bunch of ass. There was no ass in there. All the all the Krampus ass. All the ass.
Kramp ass. Kramp ass. Kramp ass. How did I put no Kramp ass jokes in my... in my episode? I don't know.
I'm sick. That's what happens. I'm surprised this reading turned out so good. How sick I am too.
I know. Well, I shuffle the shit out of those cards. Well, you were... you held this together. Mine
was from the past. So past healthy Cassie. Pulled the right card. Well, and this one. Oh, I mean,
that was weeks ago. Yeah. Did I pick that for you or you picked it? No, I... I think you... Yeah, you...
specifically brought me. Yeah. The bowl of the cards and we're like, pick yours. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, well, let's open these presents. Who is first?
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Germanic mythology is synonymous with North. North Musa. Musa, Judy. I mean, it's a shoe face. Oh my
God. North mythology. It's that it's the... Yeah. You know, North mythology. North. You said
well. I know. I was like, "Damn it." I know. Okay. Hel is the queen of the North. My God.