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There's nothing like go-to-old fashion fear of being beaten or Krampus-napped to hell.

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Yeah, there's there really is nothing quite like it.

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So they combine the two icons both showing up at your place on December 5th,

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Krampusnacht to either give you presents or you know the other stuff.

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Krampus even started being referred to as Santa's Shadow.

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Oh, yes.

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Very spooky.

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Ho ho ho, Caitlyn.

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Ho ho ho, Cassie.

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Ho ho ho, creepy people.

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I kinda like that.

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Hello.

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If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW, Haunts and Homicides,

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where we chat about true crime, paranormal, and all things creepy and ho ho ho-y,

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in the Pacific Northwest.

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That's amazing.

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We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for deeper insight into our topic for the week.

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So make sure you stick around if you're into that.

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Yes, and this week Cassie sounds sick, but she doesn't always.

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True.

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Well, today is, if you hadn't already guessed, a holiday themed episode. 

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Woo, woo, from the window to the walls.

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Skeet, skeet.

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I loved that video, Caitlyn, just showed me the funniest fucking video ever.

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Yeah, we're gonna have to figure out how to share that.

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We're just linking.

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Yeah, we'll show notes too.

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I love it.

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Just in case.

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Yeah.

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If you don't follow us on the socials, what are you doing?

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Yeah.

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We're hilarious.

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I agree.

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I loved my stories about the dolls where I was like, it's one person's heaven and another person's hand.

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It's very true.

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I actually had a listener reach out and say they were house sitting somewhere and they were concerned about listening to that episode, you know.

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I would be too.

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All by themselves and I said, no, no, no, no, no, it's not that scary.

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It wasn't that scary.

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It wasn't that scary, but I guess, okay, so for the people who weren't editing it, there was a lot of weird sounds.

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There were some shenanigans.

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There were a lot of weird sounds and I know we were recording over the internet and they weren't using professional mics.

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But there were some creepy shit in there.

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I don't know what was happening, but mostly the editing took it out.

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There was one that I couldn't take out.

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It was like over her voice or under her voice.

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It sounded like robotic.

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It was really creepy.

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So I don't know if anyone caught that.

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Okay.

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So Cassie was the one, I think, most scared by that episode.

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And I love that for her.

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Yeah.

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In the end, I ended up being like, oh my god, I...

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Is this editing over with "I'm sick of hearing EVPs"?

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Oh my god.

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Well anyway, today is a less scary topic.

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Is this the holiday?

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You know, we got to keep it light around here.

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So...

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All right.

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Well, you know, also keeping it creepy.

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We're baubles deep into December.

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Feeling so festive with your little joke and then that song, it's just...

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It went perfectly together.

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It really did.

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It really did.

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Wow.

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So as much as I love Halloween, we all know that's not a secret.

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No.

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And I have some issues with the religious aspect of Christmas.

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You know, that's fair.

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So I've kind of switched over to kind of more saying I celebrate like yuletide or winter solstice and that kind of thing.

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But, you know, technically my whole family still celebrates Christmas and it does hold a little special place in my heart.

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I grew up with it.

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So, yeah.

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It's kind of a magical time, magical season.

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Very magical.

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Especially when I can continue to watch Nightmare before Christmas.

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Which I did last night.

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Love it.

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And Jack visiting Christmas Town is like my top favorite scenes in the movie.

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You know that.

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You've seen Nightmare before Christmas, right?

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I have.

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I have.

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It's been quite a few years.

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I've been thinking about it a lot this year that I should probably rewatch it.

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You should.

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Okay.

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So he visits Christmas Town and he's like, what's this?

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What's this?

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He's, you know, he's never seen all the glittery snow and he's all excited and that's how he filled during Christmas.

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Even though, you know, Halloween, I feel it more, I think.

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Definitely Christmas.

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Christmas is special.

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It's warm.

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Warm and fuzzy.

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Warm and fuzzy.

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Did you know that the Pacific Northwest has its very own Christmas town?

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Yes.

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Did you?

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I did.

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I didn't honestly before this.

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I didn't.

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I really did.

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It has nothing to do with Nightmare before Christmas.

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It's just, you know, they're both called Christmas Town.

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So adorable, but it's still extremely magical.

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And I think a quote from this locations website is in order.

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Of course.

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Leavenworth, Washington is a charming Bavarian village nestled in the picturesque Cascade Mountains known for its unique architectural style and festive atmosphere.

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The village transports visitors to a quaint European setting.

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The town exudes a lively ambiance throughout the year with seasonal decorations and events.

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Visitors can explore the village's charming shops and dine on Authentic German cuisine.

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Sample locally brewed beers.

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Very important.

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Excellent.

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And immerse themselves in the vibrant festivities and cultural experiences.

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It's an experience that will leave you saying, "Holy schnitzel!"

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Adorable.

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That's on their website.

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So freaking cute.

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Holy schnitzel.

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So have you been to Leavenworth?

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I have.

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Is it beautiful?

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It's gorgeous.

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I've never been.

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I've been, I think it was in the fall time.

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So it wasn't like snowing, but it was on the chillier side, certainly in the evenings.

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And all of the buildings are so cute.

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It's so quaint, it does look like a little old, tiny European town.

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Oh my god, I have to go someday.

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Was it all lit up when you went?

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No, I don't think they had any of their, like, kind of seasonal stuff before Thanksgiving.

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Exactly.

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2010, I was there.

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Oh my god, that was like a decade ago.

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So they Christmas by the town and it stays lit up from Thanksgiving through February.

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So y'all still have time to go, like plenty of time.

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That's, yeah, it's quite the window.

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And they do all sorts of fun events, I'll link the website so you can go check it out.

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My mommy actually just went with her friends.

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Yeah, she said it was gorgeous.

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She sent me a couple of pictures.

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Oh good.

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And she said it was so much fun.

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And when she told me she was going, I'm going to be honest, I'd never heard of it.

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I just, I don't know, there's some things that are very popular that I've never heard about.

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Yeah.

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And this is why I'm doing the podcast.

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I can learn about them.

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That's fair.

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Also, I just realized I went in June.

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Oh.

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I did not go in the fall.

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Okay, was it cold though still?

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It was chilly in the evening.

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Yeah, for sure.

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But.

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So when she told me she was going, I looked it up and then I was actually really, really excited for her to go.

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But not for pictures of snowy mountains and lights because when I think Germany and Christmas,

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what comes to mind for me, I wanted her to be my personal Krampus paparazzi.

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Ooh.

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So the first thing I saw when I went on to the website was this little blurb on old crampy saying that the weekend closest to Krampusnacht knocked.

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Krampusnacht.

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Krampusnacht.

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December 5th.

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You might see Krampus costumes around town.

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It goes on to state that they're not having an official Krampusnacht. celebration.

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Okay.

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So quote, please plan accordingly if this is a concern.

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And I was like, huh.

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That's interesting.

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I wonder why people would be concerned about the big, lovable old Krampy-pus.

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You know?

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It certainly couldn't be his delightfully demonic appearance.

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Oh, no.

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Big and hairy with goat-like horns.

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Yeah.

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I mean, no notes.

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And a long tongue protruding out to glide across to sharp fangs.

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Okay. What about this tongue thing now that's weird.

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And of course, since he's named after the word krampen, which means claw.

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Oh.

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He has to have the perfect set of terrifying clawses.

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Ooh.

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Phalanges.

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So Krampus comes from Bavaria, Germany and Austria's Alpine region, which I assume is around the Alps.

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That's exactly what it means.

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It sounds like.

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I was like, I feel like that's pretty straightforward, but no, it is.

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I mean, I literally just picture.

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I don't know if this is actually accurate, but I just picture the sound of music.

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She's running through the hills because the hills are alive with music.

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Pretty sure that was based in Austria.

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And people skiing.

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Definitely skiing.

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Yeah.

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And I've found since BC (before Christmas) and kicked off Yule or winter solstice as a symbol of evil.

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Working naughty children with sticks.

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Yeah.

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Eating them or just playing throwing them in a sack and dragging them to the underworld or hell, whichever you prefer.

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Great.

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I would prefer neither.

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Sounds like a fun time.

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Okay.

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I'm having second thoughts about that pillow in light of that.

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Oh.

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Be naughty, save Santa the trip.

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That's actually pretty interesting that you put that pillow out, totally relates.

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I had no idea.

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But they're kind of, they kind of go on the trip together.

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We'll talk about it.

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Yeah.

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We'll talk about it.

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Oh my God.

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So the whole dragging kids to hell thing is kind of interesting because Krampus is the son

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of Hel.

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Hey, H E L, is from Norse mythology, which I was kind of confused about how that was connected

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to Germany.

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So obviously I looked it up basically because of traveling.

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Yeah.

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The Illinois Library website says, quote, Germanic mythology is synonymous with Norse mythology.

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Anywho, Hel is the queen of the Norse realm of the dead known as Hellheim or just Hell?

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Oh.

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Sounds kind of familiar.

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Yeah, a little bit.

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And she is the daughter of Loki.

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We all know him, Trixi Little Trixter.

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Yeah.

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Krampus has quite the pedigree.

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Yeah.

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And literally every single thing in Judeo-Christian religions is just taken from pagan and other indigenous

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cultural and religious beliefs apparently.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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As if we weren't already aware.

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Yeah.

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But you know, you just got to drill it in.

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Yeah.

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Oh my God.

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Okay.

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So insert Catholicism and Christianity into the mix.

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And now there is a Saint Nicholas, everyone's obsessed with.

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I guess being the patron saint of children comes with its benefits like your very own day.

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Okay.

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Nikolaustag.

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Oh my goodness.

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Not how you say it.

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Nikolaustag.

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Nikolaustag.

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Nikolaustagt.

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Nikolaustag.

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Do you need me to look it up?

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Nikolaustagt.

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It's just like the word, the letters are all weird because Nicholas is N-I-K-O-L-A-U-S and

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then T-A-G.

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Nikolaustag.

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Nikolaustag.

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Which happens to be December 6th, the day after Krampusnacht.

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Okay.

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So now all of a sudden there's a symbol of goodness to go with all the evil of Krampus.

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Super long story short.

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Catholics try to ban Krampus for being too devil-y.

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Okay.

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Like honestly who was first the devil or the Krampus?

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Right.

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That's fair.

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But eventually people decided that they liked the whole good versus evil thing and they

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wanted to keep the legend alive.

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Well, what they really wanted was for to me to take out the trash and, uh, yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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That's where I'm going with that.

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And hey, it keeps kids in line better than just getting a lump of coal, right?

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There's nothing like go-to-old fashion fear of being beaten, eaten or Krampus-napped to hell.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There's, there really is nothing quite like it.

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So they combine the two icons, both showing up at your place on December 5th,  Krampusnacht

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to either give you presents or, you know, the other stuff.

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Krampus even started being referred to as Santa's shadow.

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Oh, yeah.

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Spooky.

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Very spooky.

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Okay.

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So you remember Leavenworth in the Krampus Sighting Warning?

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Yeah.

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There's actually a reason for that.

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In 2020, a volunteer-based nonprofit quote, “Troupe of Thespians bringing the traditional

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Austrian Krampus folklore to America, known as Krampus Seattle."

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Ooh.

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They took to the snowy streets of Leavenworth for a Krampuslauf, which is basically a Krampus

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cosplay parade.

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Hello.

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They actually have very beautifully-made masks and costumes and stuff.

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It's really cool.

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That sounds amazing.

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I, goals is to see a Krampuslauf in person.

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Wow, wow, wow.

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I kind of joke that I was going to come show up as Krampus today because I looked so terrible.

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It's on theme.

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The people seemed to love it and the town's event organizers officially invited them back

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the next year and promoted the Kramp out of it.

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I love that.

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From the Krampus enthusiast perspective, the event went great, but three was not the

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charm in this case and they were not invited back for 2022.

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Oh, no, why?

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I'll tell you.

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Oh, no.

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A crosscut.com article says, "Community leaders were pressured by a small but vocal group who

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objected to the Krampus Seattle group last year, arguing that their presence didn't mesh

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with the events and the friendly reputation."

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What?

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Okay, but also culturally that's definitely in the correct vibe, right?

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And it's like it's one day.

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Come on.

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God.

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To which I say, a new breed of Karen was born and that is the Krampus Karen, Krampus Karen,

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the Krampus Karen's Unite.

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Yeah.

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So, ultimately, people are allowed to come dressed up, but not in any official events organized

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by 11 worth leaders.

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So that is why there is a warning to plan accordingly if you don't want to see the Krampus,

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don't fucking come on  Krampusnacht.

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Seriously.

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But it's sad.

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They can't have their big old fun Krampuslauf.

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What was it?

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Krampuslauf party?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But, Seattle Krampus is not wallowing.

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They have plenty of other events to attend, including Santa Con, which I didn't really know

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was a thing, but that sounds fun.

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Yeah.

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Enjoying other Krampus groups for the huge  Krampusnacht celebration in downtown Bremerton,

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Washington, where the event was received with open arms.

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Open...claws?

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Open claws.

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Yeah.

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They even have a list of fun, themey things to attend in the town, like a naughty versus

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nice wrestling match between Santa and Krampus.

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Stop it.

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That happened last night, actually.

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I am obsessed.

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Next year we have to go.

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We're going.

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That sounds really fun.

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I'm not a huge, like, wrestling fighting.

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I don't really like that kind of stuff, but if it's Santa versus Krampus, I probably

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will watch it.

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I mean, come on.

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Oh my God, I just had a flashback.

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Do you remember that, like, clay-mation wrestling show?

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Oh my God.

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It was like on MTV.

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I hold on.

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I will look it up.

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Celebrity Death Match.

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Yes.

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Oh my God.

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That show is so fun.

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That's what this reminds me of.

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Yeah.

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It's definitely...it's giving celebrity Death Match.

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Definitely.

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I wonder if they had a Krampus Santa episode of that.

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Ooh.

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They should have.

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We're going to investigate that.

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Oh.

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They did have a Jerry Seinfeld versus Tim Allen.

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Oh.

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And Tim Allen played Santa Claus.

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That's true.

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That's true.

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Jerry Seinfeld could be Krampus.

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I love that for him.

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So now I have a quote from Erin Hale in this.

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This is from the KrampusBremerton.com.

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Krampus now challenges the Christmas Capitalistic Pressure to somehow match Santa's mythological

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generosity.

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What if we simply celebrated the good gratitude and greatness in each other instead?

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What if Krampus is here to be celebrated as a reminder that we have the choice to be

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kind, patient, and compassionate?

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Oh.

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I like that.

398
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I know.

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I think that perfectly sums up kind of what Krampus is about because he is scary, but it is

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cool to kind of have that the opposite ends, like showing you what really bad is and showing

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you what really good is.

402
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Right.

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This is a reminder.

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But now some people say Krampus is getting just as popular and commercialized as Santa.

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With places like the Peculiarium hosting mocktails with Krampus, Saturday, December 23rd,

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stop it.

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Or Raven's Manor having a themed menu featuring the Krampus Martini.

408
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,680
Ooh.

409
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Designed for the icy Germanic demon himself.

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Oh, yes.

411
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Krampus cookies.

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6.66 ounces of chocolate chip wither without walnut.

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Served with a cold glass of milk or almond milk.

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And if you need a little more of a hearty meal, order up the child stew in a bread bowl.

415
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Oh.

416
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,480
Yeah.

417
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,480
Literally have.

418
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There's something called child stew and I fucking died.

419
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It's just like, how do you order that?

420
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,520
You know?

421
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I think I would just say, I'd like the stew, please.

422
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Childless stew.

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Also fun fact about me.

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I love bread bowls.

425
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I do too.

426
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,760
So fucking.

427
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,760
So incredible.

428
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Like sourdough bread bowl.

429
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Nothing better.

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I will eat the entire bread bowl.

431
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,160
Yeah.

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Don't test me.

433
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,160
Yeah.

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I would never.

435
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,400
They also have a Grinch drink, which I had to bring up because I'm wearing my Grinch

436
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sweater today.

437
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,400
Hello.

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And it's green.

439
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,200
Got rain.

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I want to go get it.

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00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,400
So this brings me to our last little bit here.

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We visited the Kampus.

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We'll set up through the veil.

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Oh my gosh.

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00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,440
Yeah.

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00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,840
That feels like a lifetime ago.

447
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,840
I know.

448
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,440
We took a bunch of photos.

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Chris took our photos.

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Thank you, Chris.

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Thank you, Chris.

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00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:57,160
And we had little Christmas cards made from them that we're sending to our Patreon.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hi.

456
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,160
Hi.

457
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Happy Patreon holidays.

458
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,160
Yeah.

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You get a holiday card.

460
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,160
We're calling it a holiday card because everyone celebrates Christmas.

461
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,160
Yeah.

462
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,160
Yeah.

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So that'll be fun.

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They're really cute.

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00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,160
Yeah.

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They turned out super cute.

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Yeah.

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So if you're in town, go visit over there, visit Krampus, check out all of the amazing stuff

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that they have in the store.

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Like I can't even.

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Yeah.

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Actually, this is one of my purchases from...

473
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Oh yeah, it is.

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Yeah.

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00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,440
And we also have a couple other purchases we made there.

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We got little mystery tarot cards.

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And the one I ended up opening it in the store because you can either leave it on their

478
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altar and like write, write a wish on it or something that you want and leave it on

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their altar.

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So that was my plan.

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And then I opened it and I got the double card, which eerily kind of looks like Krampus.

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It has a very long protruding tongue and horns.

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I cannot.

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I cannot.

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So I had to take it with me, of course.

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And it has like the back of the card kind of looks very Christmasy, kind of like literally

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just notice that today.

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So it was totally perfect. We brought it to put on our altar today to show off because

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it was just too...the Krampus connection was too much.

490
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It's just too good.

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And then Caitlyn has her mystery tarot.

492
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I think she wants to open it today too.

493
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Yeah.

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So we'll do that and we'll pull a card from my nightmare before Christmas deck for the

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tarot reading and that will be that.

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Ho ho ho.

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As indie podcasters, we love to show our support of other awesome shows.

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So stay tuned for the promo we've got to share with you this week.

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Let's show them some love.

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You can find their info in our show notes.

501
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504
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,920
We'll dive into questionable cases throughout history that are solved, unsolved, or just

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00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,080
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You guys were back!

510
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And don't worry, we did get more wine.

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Well, of course.

512
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Okay, before tarot, we're doing things.

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We're doing things.

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Okay.

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What are we opening, Caitlyn?

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We have so many fun things to open.

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00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:10,240
We have not checked our PO box for a little while.

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So we have an atorabal Halloween postcard that we received.

519
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,040
But it's so cute.

520
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,360
I know.

521
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I'm going to read it.

522
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:22,520
Please do.

523
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,600
It's spooky season.

524
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,360
Thank you both so much for your excellent podcast.

525
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:33,440
Your banter, wit, and excellent storytelling is a highlight of my week.

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Stay spooky.

527
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:36,360
From Danny.

528
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:38,920
Oh, thank you, Danny.

529
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,920
You wanna...

530
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,600
I love this because I was just talking about how I love Christmas.

531
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,920
But I love Halloween.

532
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,920
And there's something Halloweeny.

533
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,640
Oh, I love Halloweeny.

534
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,120
Okay.

535
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:56,760
And then I already opened this one because I knew who it was going to be from.

536
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,360
Because I recognize the handwriting.

537
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:03,000
So this came from True Crime, Cat Lawyer.

538
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,400
Oh, Hi Elyse.

539
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,400
Oh, Winston.

540
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,400
Oh, Winston.

541
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,400
We love her.

542
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,400
Yeah.

543
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,400
So flipping cute.

544
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,880
And she sent us a little sticker peac.

545
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,880
Of course she did.

546
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,480
She's always so good with the stickers.

547
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,480
I know.

548
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,200
Look at this little Christmas Winston.

549
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,200
It's adorable.

550
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,720
Oh, I love it.

551
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,880
I really want Winston on the pod.

552
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,880
I know.

553
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,880
I know.

554
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,680
So many things.

555
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,680
And we have this.

556
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,840
What's that?

557
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,920
This came from Caitlin.

558
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,720
Caitlyn, who?

559
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,720
Not me.

560
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,720
Hi, Caitlin.

561
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,720
Oh, this is so cute.

562
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,720
Happy holiday.

563
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,920
Got that Lumberjack plaid on there.

564
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,920
Right?

565
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,560
It's not Lumberjack plaid, but all plaid is Lumberjack to me.

566
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,560
Okay.

567
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,760
I'm going to read this to you.

568
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,760
Caitlyn and Cassie.

569
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,600
What's up?

570
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,600
Thank you for everything you have done to help me this year.

571
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,600
I look forward to helping you both in the future to gain more viewers.

572
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:18,120
Also, I look forward to doing something together in person, which we are working on.

573
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:19,120
Yeah.

574
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,120
I'm so excited.

575
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:22,640
I love meeting everybody.

576
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,640
I know.

577
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,640
Literally.

578
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,640
I love it.

579
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,640
I love it.

580
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,640
I love people.

581
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,440
I know I would say people, but I love my people.

582
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,440
Yeah.

583
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,080
No, that's the difference.

584
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,000
Anyways, hope you enjoy your gifts.

585
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,360
Happy holidays, Caitlin.

586
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:40,360
Yes.

587
00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:43,560
Oh my gosh.

588
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,880
My eyes are tearing up.

589
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,680
I'm not crying.

590
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,920
She's not crying, though.

591
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,920
Oh no.

592
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,920
Oh no.

593
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,920
Oh my god.

594
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,920
What?

595
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,920
Okay.

596
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,920
There's candy cans.

597
00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,920
Yes.

598
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:06,080
And there's two little wrapped things in here.

599
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,080
Okay.

600
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,520
One has tarot cards on it and one has a Ouija board.

601
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,920
So I feel like the tarot cards might be for you.

602
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,920
That feels on brand.

603
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,080
Oh my god.

604
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,120
Is this a sucker?

605
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:24,400
Yes.

606
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,800
This is the cutest fucking thing I've ever seen.

607
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,600
We'll take closer pictures.

608
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,600
Oh my god.

609
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,600
Where did you get this?

610
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,120
Oh my god.

611
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,240
I am obsessed.

612
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,440
Mine's blackberry pear.

613
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,440
Ooh.

614
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,440
Ooh.

615
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,440
Oh yeah.

616
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,440
I did see the Skittles right on top.

617
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,440
So those are already gone.

618
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,960
Oh my gosh.

619
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,000
This is so cute.

620
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,400
Stop it.

621
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,800
A tarot card.

622
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,920
Scented bath bomb.

623
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:53,920
Oh my god.

624
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,920
Yours is so cute.

625
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,920
Look at this.

626
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,920
Ooh.

627
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:05,560
It's so excited for this.

628
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,560
What is your scent?

629
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,680
Um, a biscuit.

630
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,920
I love a biscuit.

631
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,920
What's yours?

632
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,920
Rose.

633
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,920
Do we need a trade?

634
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,840
What do you want?

635
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,760
I love Rose.

636
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,960
Thank you, Kate.

637
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,960
I was.

638
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,960
We traded.

639
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,960
Oh my gosh.

640
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,240
I'm taking a bath like tonight.

641
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,880
I don't have a tub, but I will find one.

642
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:32,880
I have a tub.

643
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,880
I actually do.

644
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,880
Okay.

645
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:35,880
I'm house sitting.

646
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,880
So I do have access to a tub.

647
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,880
Actually, this is perfect.

648
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,880
This is so perfect.

649
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,880
I'm so excited.

650
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,880
I all have a tub, Kate.

651
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,880
I'm so excited.

652
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,880
I'm going to take a video.

653
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,880
So excited.

654
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,880
Yeah.

655
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,880
I was just going to say.

656
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,880
Oh my gosh.

657
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,880
Okay.

658
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,880
What else is in here?

659
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,880
Oh my gosh.

660
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:56,880
Oh my gosh.

661
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,880
Oh my gosh.

662
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,880
Oh my gosh.

663
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:00,880
Oh.

664
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,880
Self-care thing.

665
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,880
Oh.

666
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,880
Oh my gosh.

667
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,880
Oh my gosh.

668
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,880
Oh my gosh.

669
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,880
Oh my gosh.

670
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,880
Oh my gosh.

671
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,880
Oh.

672
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,880
Self-care thing.

673
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,880
Oh.

674
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,880
Oh my gosh.

675
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,880
Oh my gosh.

676
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,880
Oh my gosh.

677
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,880
Oh my gosh.

678
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,880
Oh my gosh.

679
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,880
Oh my gosh.

680
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,880
Oh.

681
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,880
Self-care thing.

682
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:28,000
and a boob mask! I love this! It has bows for your tea toss. This is amazing. I'm gonna smear

683
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,360
this all over my boobs and butt and it's gonna be great. We're not gonna take pictures of that.

684
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:44,320
Oh my god! This is amazing! I'm so excited. Thank you so much, Caitlin. You're literally the fricken

685
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:54,880
sweetest. That was excitement. Should we do our little tarot? Okay. Are we gonna do my envelope

686
00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:02,000
tarot? Do your mystery first. You're just gonna break open a candy cane right now. I know.

687
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:16,000
Ooh! What is it? That's the backside of the car. Hey girl! Cute skulls? Five of pentacles.

688
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:27,040
Dropping that money. Oh no! Is it not good? Yeah, the five of pentacles is that's throwing away

689
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:34,800
money. That's misleading. Oh! Look at the... Can you see that? Oh, that's right. I do remember that one.

690
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:40,080
Wasn't that a Christmas episode too? That we got that. It was the train wreck one. I don't know if

691
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,760
that was Christmas, maybe it was the train wreck snowy one. Yeah. That is okay. So it's a snowy

692
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:52,080
car. That's interesting. Maybe it just relates to this episode, you know? Oh my god, it does.

693
00:31:52,080 --> 00:32:00,480
Okay. I found it already. Often this car depicts a couple or a family in an attitude of humility,

694
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:08,720
poverty or hardship. Their desperation and suffering are evident. Sometimes a stained glass

695
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:17,680
church window appears above them, which indicates emphasizing spiritual values over material ones.

696
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:25,440
Oh, okay. Wow. It's not just a season about stuff. Yeah. That was a big part of this episode,

697
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:35,520
because Krampus represents the commercialization of Christmas. I cannot believe that. You got a

698
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:42,400
Krampus and I got a card that was like, "Hey, maybe don't make everything about stuff." Wow,

699
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:56,320
that's really cool. I love that. There you go. Okay. Oh, I got the lovers. Stop it. We did. That's so fun.

700
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:03,120
It was Christmasy, but yeah, it was technically in reverse when I looked at it, but I just felt like

701
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:08,640
it was in, I flipped it and that's how it was. So it's in upright for me. Okay. In my brain.

702
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:18,000
Lovers, Missilto. I know I feel so bad. I wanted to get some Missilto and I just

703
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:24,720
I thought about it once and it went out of my brain and I forgot my Missilto headband, but I

704
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,480
wore that Missilto headband to kiss Krampus in the pictures. It did. That's so cute.

705
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:45,120
All I want for Christmas is Krampus or Krampus. Yeah. Okay. So, oh, this is interesting. Cassie, our key

706
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:55,760
words are partnership union of opposites. Oh, partnership like Santa and Krampus union of opposites.

707
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:05,760
Look at us. I know. We're so witchy. Choices, harmony, cooperation, choices, choice between good

708
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:12,000
and evil. Yeah. Cooperation. Don't be naughty and get beaten by Krampus with sticks. Yeah.

709
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:25,360
Yeah. The lovers card usually shows a man and woman, but they're the similarities and in some

710
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:33,200
decks, they're naked in others, they're clothes. Some decks show the couple touching, even engaged in

711
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:41,920
a passionate embrace, whereas others place them on opposite sides of the card, perhaps with a

712
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:50,320
winged being overlooking them. Alla, garden of Eden. There's that. The winged beings are back.

713
00:34:53,600 --> 00:35:00,640
You'll even find decks that present three people on the card as if a third party who might be a

714
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:09,120
young person or an older parental figure is influencing their relationship like a Krampus card.

715
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:18,720
Oh, or like a child influencing, you know, which is going to be either way. Although many people

716
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:25,680
interpret this card as representing romantic love, it's really about the union of opposites,

717
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:35,520
your own dual nature. Wow. This is so cool. I love this. That doesn't rule out romance in your future

718
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:43,840
if the lovers shows up in a reading. It just means union has many meanings other than male female

719
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:52,240
coupling. Yeah, it does. And trusting. Okay, so let's do our upright interpretation. I also just

720
00:35:52,240 --> 00:36:02,240
got a flash of Krampus and Santa wrestling. I love that. This is a card of cooperation, of working

721
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:11,840
together with others to accomplish a joint purpose. A joint purpose. You're not even the stoner.

722
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,880
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're allegedly. We've got some ideas.

723
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:26,240
When it appears upright, it signifies an attraction and partnership of some kind, not only the

724
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:35,280
romantic variety. It can also suggest you're uniting disparate parts of yourself. The lovers

725
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:42,320
represents a period of harmony in personal or professional matters. Sometimes it indicates

726
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,760
you need to make a choice between two things you value, but you'll make the right decision.

727
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:55,440
Or you'll get dragged to hell. I was like, I'm just going to wait for it. Or put into stew.

728
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:04,960
In a reading about money, you can profit from combining your resources with someone else's.

729
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:17,040
That's amazing. Sometimes the lovers symbolizes benefiting from a partner's money or marrying into

730
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:23,840
wealth. I got this card recently for someone else that I was doing a reading for. And I was like,

731
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:31,680
oh, yeah, you did. If you're seeking a financial backer, this card gives you a thumbs up.

732
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:40,240
If the reading is about your job, this card represents a time of cooperation, contentment, and harmony.

733
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:46,880
Joint projects are favored now. Two forces have united toward a common goal.

734
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,800
The lovers can also signify meeting a partner through work or working through

735
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,560
working with a romantic partner in business.

736
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:10,640
Krampus Santa. Yeah. This is Claus. Watch out. This is Claus. This is Claus. What if Mrs. Claus is crampus?

737
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:20,160
I don't know. Every picture I've seen of her is like a cute little old grandma in disguise. What if she

738
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:29,280
comes out as crampus? I love this conspiracy theory that I just created. She cooked that up right

739
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:36,000
click. That was that's something. Mrs. Claus doesn't even have a first name. You know what I mean? We just

740
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:42,640
call her Mrs. Claus. We need to look into that. Does she have a first name? Like, is there any mythology

741
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:49,200
there where she is? There's got to be, right? Yeah. I mean in the claymation one where he meets her,

742
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:55,680
she has a name, but I don't remember what it is. Okay. Well, anyway, put a pin in that

743
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:04,160
in a reading about love, this card boats well for a romantic relationship. It shows mutual caring

744
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:11,760
and attraction, a rewarding partnership that brings out the best in both people. Sometimes it means

745
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:22,000
a decision in connection with a love relationship. Yeah. This whole thing is just like, I good versus

746
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:28,000
evil, Krampus, Santa. Like, yeah, their whole relationship. That's so cool. I just realized there's

747
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:36,160
a card on the ground. What? There's a card on the ground. Holy shh. Holy schnitzel. Holy schnitzel.

748
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:42,960
It's the five of presents. So yeah, I'm very curious. I guess it just fell down when I was doing

749
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:49,600
something or other. Five of pinnacles in my... Oh yeah. Oh, is presents pinnacles? What do we decide?

750
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:59,200
I don't remember. That would be weird. I would not be surprised though. Yeah, candles would be ones.

751
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:06,800
Presence would be pinnacles, needle swords, push and scuops. Wow! This is just on the floor. Five

752
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:14,000
five presents. We don't even need to read it because we read it already. Wow. But I don't know when it

753
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:21,200
looks like presents. That is so... Yeah, I cannot believe that. That is really cool. I wonder if you could

754
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:27,920
see it in the video when it fell out. Oh, I don't know. I probably think they're gonna fall off the bottom

755
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:37,680
or something. Yeah, that's so cool. What are the odds that we buy two little tarot readings

756
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:45,840
out through the veil? And one of them looks like crampus. One of them is five of... I pentacles.

757
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:54,880
And then this other five pinnacles drops out. Weird. Okay. People are gonna literally...

758
00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:01,440
They're gonna be thinking we're making this up. I just... They watched it. I mean, we didn't...

759
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,720
I'm always afraid that people are gonna be like, "Woooo!" Well, and if you want to see, I pulled this

760
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:13,200
card out in a video and I put it with the little reel and TikTok I made for the through the veil

761
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,320
episode. Yeah, that's right. And I pulled it out. So that was me literally opening it right there.

762
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:23,600
I feel like are we gonna have conspiracy theories about our terrestrial beings? I hope so. Can we

763
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:30,240
start a Reddit thread on the conspiracy theory for us? Maybe. I really don't want that because

764
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:37,360
they're so good. Like they're really right on. I... That's why I want it to be like so above board

765
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:46,480
that people know they're real. Yeah. They do. Oh, this is so cool. I need a candy cane and a nap.

766
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:55,600
Drink. We have to open gifts still. Oh, oh my god. Yeah. So let's end it for normal people. And then

767
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we're gonna continue opening gifts for our Patreon. Okay. Have a creep miss crampus not.

768
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With a bunch of ass. There was no ass in there. All the all the Krampus ass. All the ass.

769
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Kramp ass. Kramp ass. Kramp ass. How did I put no Kramp ass jokes in my... in my episode? I don't know.

770
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I'm sick. That's what happens. I'm surprised this reading turned out so good. How sick I am too.

771
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:33,840
I know. Well, I shuffle the shit out of those cards. Well, you were... you held this together. Mine

772
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:41,120
was from the past. So past healthy Cassie. Pulled the right card. Well, and this one. Oh, I mean,

773
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:47,600
that was weeks ago. Yeah. Did I pick that for you or you picked it? No, I... I think you... Yeah, you...

774
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specifically brought me. Yeah. The bowl of the cards and we're like, pick yours. Yeah. Yeah.

775
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Okay, well, let's open these presents. Who is first?

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[Music]

778
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Germanic mythology is synonymous with North. North Musa. Musa, Judy. I mean, it's a shoe face. Oh my

779
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God. North mythology. It's that it's the... Yeah. You know, North mythology. North. You said

780
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well. I know. I was like, "Damn it." I know. Okay. Hel is the queen of the North. My God.