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- What's up everybody?
Welcome to For Crying Out Loud.
Hello.
Hi Stephanie.
- Hi.
Okay, so this happened between...
So these two shows are back to...
We're recording them back to back,
but they're airing a few days apart.
But I was telling you during show one,
about Zander's bad interview he had,
but then I was telling you that he was going
to stop at Trader Joe's and bring his resume
and do it the old fashioned way, which...
- Yeah.
- ...albeit wouldn't listen to me.
- Right.
- So she took the first job that a friend helped her get.
But you know with Trader Joe's,
the first two times he applied there,
he has a friend who works there
who tried to put in a good word for him
and it didn't work.
Even that was like, you gotta come by and see the manager.
- Right.
- So I was telling you show one that he was fixing
as they say in the self, yet to go and drop off his resume.
Now according to my life 360, which I could see,
45 minutes ago, now Trader Joe's is literally
like down the street from the house.
45 minutes ago, John left to go take him there.
I just checked life 360, they're still there.
They've been there for 45 minutes.
Now John is not shopping at Trader Joe's for 45 minutes.
So don't you think that possibly they interviewed him right there?
They could be, yeah, he could have said, let's talk.
What else would they have been doing?
Or they could have said he's not here,
he'll be back in a half an hour.
I just think that he would have come back then.
He would have left.
- Right.
- Okay.
- I just don't think that he would have stayed there.
- Well then there you go.
He's probably talking to him.
- I like to think positive.
- Yes, yes.
- I'll probably find out that that's not at all what happened,
but literally looking at like, did you text?
Did you text them?
- No.
- I'm not gonna text them.
Literally they're still there.
It says they've been there since 227.
It's gotta be tough though.
Although according to Zander's life 360,
he's been there since 217.
So he went in, maybe John circled the block
and came back or something, but he's still there.
So he's been there for like almost an hour.
I guarantee they're not grocery shopping.
- No, they're talking.
- Because we don't need anything.
- Yeah.
Well that's a good sign.
I'm dying to know.
Maybe we'll know by the end of the show.
- Okay.
- Okay, maybe we'll lose.
- Everybody think good thoughts.
- Think good thoughts.
Think good, think good, think good, think good, think good.
Okay.
Ah yeah.
So I did wanna tell you this.
I feel like some of these topics are like,
maybe a little bit exhausted,
but I've in the spirit of full transparency.
So I've finally got myself to go back to the gym.
The gym really does sort of hit different at my age
than it did even a few years ago.
- Everything is harder.
- Why is that?
I feel the same way.
I'm like only been 10 minutes.
Yeah.
I'm like only been 10 minutes.
I got another 20 minutes to go on this fucking treadmill.
- Yes.
- But there's not enough multitasking I can do
'cause I'm a sick person.
I need several things going on.
I can't, I'm not somebody and I look around
and my hat's off to you.
The people that can just listen to music.
And I know I'm not.
I gotta have a podcast going, check in my email,
playing a game on my phone.
I need so many things to distract me from how miserable I am.
- I'm saying.
- I get on sometimes and now that I have my YouTube shows
that I watch, Daily Dose of Donna.
Dana, Donna.
I love her.
I feel like she's my friend.
Anyway, so I'll start on our show.
That's what I'm trying.
I'm trying.
- All right.
- So I'll watch, she has a podcast and the thing that I like
about it is it's something that you can do
while you're on the treadmill because she's showing you
pictures of what she's talking about.
She's pulling up articles on the fly.
It's amazing.
So anyway, but then even then I'm like,
okay, I swipe, I'm listening,
but now I'm on my emails, now I'm on Facebook, now I'm like,
or it's almost over.
So now I'm looking for another something, something to watch,
to keep me busy.
But yeah, I don't have the tension span
for 30 minutes on the stupid treadmill.
- It's a lot.
So I'll go back and I'll work out and then I'll get busy
for a couple of days and not go back.
And then I go back again and it's like I haven't been
in two years.
- Yeah, my body does not remember.
- I have the same thing.
- But so the last week I have been going pretty regularly.
Also though, I have gained weight to the point
that it's worse than it was during COVID
where I completely stopped exercising
and I think it's age-related.
Like I think it because none of my clothes fit.
So I bought fat pants during COVID, 'cause,
you know, it's only almost like--
- It's almost insane.
- So we all kind of gave up during COVID, right?
- Yes.
- We're all like, can we not just eat a bunch of food
and not go to the gym since we can't go to the gym?
- I briefly, if you recall,
with my kids started doing exercises
to do the living room. - Yes, in the living room.
- In the living room?
But that one, by the way, side, completely.
- Oh, totally.
- I did once or twice, yeah.
And then I bought that ping pong,
like made my dining room table into a kitchen table.
- I had that too.
- That's not good exercise, though.
- Right. (laughs)
- It kept the kids busy.
- Mm.
- Yeah.
- It's good exercise for your brain,
not for your body.
- Right.
- So I gained a bunch of weight.
Then I somehow lost weight.
I went off the sugar.
I was going to the gym for a while.
And then I don't know what happened.
I guess I broke my foot.
- Oh, that's right.
- So it's been, I've been in like a bit of a yo-yo.
- Yeah. - Now, all of a sudden though,
I go to the gym.
I've been going regularly and I'm like,
"Why am I not thin yet?"
Like, what happened?
- How are you feeling mentally though?
Does it, are you?
- Well, here's the thing.
When I work out hard, I'm also so much hungrier.
- That same as me.
- Yes.
- Like, I went to the gym today this morning.
- Yeah.
- I was so proud of myself.
I was really proud of myself.
I'm like, I went to the gym at like,
when I say the morning, I mean like 10,
like 10th or three.
- Right, right.
- Right.
- Whatever.
- Yes.
- Point is, it was pre-noon, right?
- Right.
- Then I came home and I had a hard boiled egg
and a cross-hunt.
(laughs)
- Exactly.
This is the, obviously people are gonna be like,
"Well, yeah, you're eating cross-hunts."
You know?
- Okay.
But, now I'm already hungry again and it's only,
it's 315.
- Well, I noticed it too.
What kind of starving?
- I know.
Once you go to the gym and you get that exercise,
you get, and then you wanna throw yourself a parade
'cause you go, "I went to the gym.
"I'll have this sandwich with like Italian bread,
"dressing and all the trimmings and stuff."
'Cause I went to the gym.
- Right.
- And I'm starving.
But yeah, I have the same thing.
I need to just get going regularly.
That's my thing.
'Cause I'll go, like, a Monday or then I'll go on a Wednesday
and I'll go, "All right, that's it."
I went for the week.
- Right.
- And then two weeks go by and go, "Oh, shit, I forgot.
"I am supposed to go to the gym."
- Oh my God.
Same.
It's not like a regular routine yet
where, and I will literally just forget
that I'd been, like, I'll go three times
and then I'm like, "Oh my God, I haven't gotten so long."
(laughs)
It's like, I forget.
Also, I haven't really changed the way I eat
and full disclosure, I'm not back off the sugar.
Like, I try so hard and then I get,
I start eating sugar again and then I'm like,
it's like alcohol.
It's like, I go, "Okay, I'm off sugar.
"I've been off for a week or whatever."
And then I just get a little thing in my brain that goes,
but when somebody else say something, like,
literally my friend, Tamara,
and I were trying to do no sugar together for a while.
And then I swear to God, she kind of admitted to me
and I kind of admitted to her that I was eating stuff.
Then she was like, "Yeah, I ate some saltwater taffy."
All of a sudden my brain couldn't think about anything.
You know I freaking love saltwater taffy.
- I know, I eat too.
- Remember, I think it was during COVID
that I ordered, like, I went on a taffy website.
What is wrong with me?
I mean, you're a fucking, you're a human.
- A taffy website and ordered all these different flavors.
And then you know I just eat it till I'm sick.
So this is my thing lately.
I'm like, okay, I'm eating sugar, but only candy,
not chocolate and not cookies.
- So the worst kind of sugar.
- So just like straight sugar.
- Yeah.
- But somehow I can't eat as much of that
as like if I was just eating cookies,
I would eat like all the cookies and all that.
- Oh, that would be pretty.
- But if I'm eating just some candy,
I'll just eat a bit and then go like, okay, I'm good.
- Yeah, I do that, yeah.
- I'm an abadmit, you know?
- Yeah.
- Now I'm like edgy, like, I'm like, coffee.
And then I'm out of the mood for it.
And then I pat myself on the back for that.
I'm like, look, I only eat like a half a bag of saltwater.
- I'm like, "I'm not a half a bag."
- Like, it's like alcoholics taking antebuse.
I'm like, yeah, so I ate a bunch of candy.
I made myself feel sick.
- Right.
- So now I won't do that for a while.
Well, cut to like hours later.
I'm like, where's the bag?
- Where's the two of you?
(laughs)
Oh, there's some love.
Look at me only eating a half a bag.
(laughs)
I have a real problem.
- I mean, it doesn't sound like you, it's, listen,
you could be worse for God's sake, you're working out.
- Yeah.
- So you're, you having some candy.
- Whoop, do do.
- Okay.
You know, you know what?
I do have to be a little bit easier on myself.
I'm like, I'm not eating like a hot fudge Sunday every day.
I'm just having like a little bit of candy.
- Yes.
People do that.
- I just, and I am working out.
I have been working out.
- Yeah.
Exactly.
I just bought a bag of candy because I was craving snickers.
So I didn't want to buy a snicker bar.
But then you know, you go to the thing and you're looking,
and then there's like, it got the Milky Way's
and then they got the patty melts and I'm like,
well, I don't like those, but they got the little snickers.
I'm like, all right, what else do they have?
Then you find another bag that's got the snickers,
but then it's got, you know.
- And you're talking about like the multi bags,
- Like what do you give out for Halloween?
- Yeah, yeah.
- Okay.
- Because I don't want to buy a snicker bar.
I want to like have a little piece of snickers
when I get the sweet tooth, sweet tooth.
- See, but that's what makes me want to punch you
in the head right now.
(laughing)
Like, oh, yeah, I don't want a whole snicker bar.
I'm just going to buy a whole bag and just eat one at a time.
Like, one a week.
- Well, I have like three.
(laughing)
See, but I would eat the whole bag and then I would be like,
yeah, I didn't even like these peppermint patty things,
but I'm just going to eat 'em because they're still in the bag.
- Right, so now I'm stuck with a bag with like milky way
and like three musketeers and really like--
- Oh, three musketeers are the worst.
- They're the worst, I know.
- I was just talking to my podcast partner from 4-A-F
and we were discussing the fact that who likes Nuget?
- Ugh, no, but I was too sleepy.
Why do they, I know, like--
- It's not good. - Yes, they're not.
- I like, I also like Twix.
Twix is good.
Reese's peanut butter cups are the best.
But my thing is juice.
I like, and I know it's full of sugar,
but I would love like pure orange juice
or pure grapefruit juice.
- Are you going to drink a whole bottle of it?
- No, but I'll drink it in like two days, three days, yeah.
And I was doing that and then I stopped
and then instead I got the little cranberry juices,
the little ones and I would have those throughout the whole day.
And one point, Wendy goes,
you know that there's a lot of sugar in those
and her brother had a heart attack
and they were like, they told him,
he was drinking a lot of those little juices
and they said, you gotta cut that out.
And for your heart?
Like for your heart, yeah.
So I was like, don't they give you cranberry juice in the hospital?
But it's, I guess it's diet cranberry.
Who wants that, right?
So anyway, smash cut,
I was like, okay, she's like, get pomegranate juice.
I was like, okay, it's all right, it's a little different
but it's good.
So I got those and then I was on a pup.
I lost weight like in a month
and I'm like, why my jeans are fitting me better?
And she's like, because she cut out the cranberry juice.
I was drinking so much juice,
not just, I was drinking juice all, every time I go to,
you know, like, trade her juice,
they have the fresh, squeezed orange juice or blood orange,
oh, the best is the blood orange.
That's what I'm addicted to.
But it's full of sugar.
So you're saying the sugar.
You're saying that me eating a bag of saltwater taffy,
I'm not doing myself any favors.
I'm not gonna start filling the looser jeans.
No, no, because you do it once in a while.
I was like, it was my lifestyle.
Right, well, once in a while, meaning every day, yeah.
But for a while, mine was every day for years.
With the juice.
But you are very trim.
So what are you doing to stay,
are you doing anything to stay that way
or you just have a fast metabolism?
I think I have a fast metabolism.
Yeah, but I don't know.
I mean, yeah, my parents were both in.
Right.
So I'm hoping that when you get old though,
you still have like skinny legs and skinny arms,
but you get like a big belly.
Big belly.
That's what I'm saying.
I had a big belly.
No, you did it.
Yes, I did.
My jeans were kind of tight and stuff.
And then when I stopped the juice,
and went on the pomegranate juice, I was fine.
So pomegranate juice, are you diluting it with anything?
Because just plain pomegranate juice is pretty strong.
It is strong.
I mean, I sometimes do, but I just get it
in the little bottles and take it to go.
That's why I like juice.
I like it kind of strong like that.
I don't know.
This started after--
After you click a little bit, you just get that pomegranate juice?
I get the little bottles.
Because they take it on the go and stuff.
But I was doing that with cranberry juice
and regular other juices.
And blood orange juice?
And blood orange--
Yes.
And drinking like six of those cranberry juices a day,
they're all over my car.
So then I cut everything out.
And then--
Now just a little pomegranate juice.
Well, now I'm back to the cranberry juice.
It's better.
It takes better--
Are you drinking as many of them?
No, not as many.
No, I limit it to like two or three a day.
OK.
Instead, like seven or eight.
Yeah.
So we all have our strong hearts.
It's really hard.
And we're all doing the best we can.
Yeah.
It's harder.
As you get older, it's harder to get out of your daily routine
and get out there and do things.
I just really like eating.
And then I'll notice if I'm going to eat dinner,
like I can't--
I'll have a serving.
It's almost like I was when I was in high school.
I just would get seconds and thirds of my meals.
Me, me too.
But I chalk it up to--
I was kind of unhappy.
So that food made me happy.
And then I developed an eating disorder.
And now I try to listen to my body more.
But a lot of times, my body misleads me and goes,
like, no, you're so hungry.
I just knew it was kind of healthy.
You can have thirds.
You know, and I'm creeping back into the kitchen
to get-- like, I'll make a big salad.
Yes.
With--
it's not unhealthy.
But I make my specialty salad is avocado, tomato, no lettuce,
but no cheese either.
OK.
Avocado, tomato, cucumber, chicken, hearts of palms.
That sounds delicious.
And I'll blend a little bit of olive oil
and a bunch of vinegar and some lemon juice and salt and pepper.
That sounds phenomenal.
So good.
But I will eat three servings of it.
Yeah.
And then add the bread.
There's nothing wrong with it.
But there's nothing wrong with that.
Natalia's been bringing home this Italian bread
from a bakery by her work.
And I've been making-- I love it.
I've been making sunny Natalia, these Italians here.
I go into the deli.
I get the Italian meat, the supressade, the cubicle.
I love cubicles, my favorite salami,
perjute, then they come home.
And I get the cheese, the wet mozzarella.
And then I put the olive oil on the bread.
And then I get basil, because that's
what makes it so fresh.
And you put the basil on and then salt and cracked pepper.
And then the meats and then the cheese,
the wet mozzarella cheese, boom, delicious.
We've been having that for dinner a lot.
Oh, yeah.
Where do you get the mozzarella, like Trader Joe's?
Yeah, like the wet--
For a dreiderer section?
Yes.
Like the sliced--
To get the pre-mized.
No, I get them in the little balls, the wet balls.
Oh, OK.
Yeah.
Well, they also make the sliced--
They do.
And it's wet.
And it's wet, yeah.
But also, I use it for salad, too.
Like I have to put those in the salads.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I need some more dinner ideas.
I think people on the--
Where's the clam sauce is our Facebook meal group?
Yeah, you'll check it out.
Meal it in.
Yes.
Meal her to that, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Meal it in group.
Yeah.
We've got to get busy.
You guys got to get some ideas going on.
Come on.
Get going.
What are you guys doing?
I just downloaded a Facebook recipe
that came up on my page that looked really good.
I'm going to try.
Because I need ideas, too.
Because like, tonight, I'm just going to make dinner.
I'm like, I don't know what to make.
I've done tacos.
I do the baked chicken.
I do the steaks, the linguini.
So the kids have been home for dinner, Alah?
My kids are not home that much.
No, see, that's the thing.
They tell me they're going to be home.
Right.
They're like, yeah, sure.
I'll be there.
And then I make the dinner and it's like crickets.
Where is everybody?
Right.
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What was I going to tell you so far?
No text.
Okay.
But I see that John arrived home 11 minutes ago.
But I wonder if let's see if Zander is still there.
That would be crazy.
No, he's at home.
He said they're both home.
Yeah.
So I don't know what happened.
Okay.
Should I text him?
Yes.
So we can all find out.
Yeah.
Okay.
Tell us something else.
So let's see.
What else has been going on?
Yeah, I've been making dinner.
Natalia's in Lake Tahoe, Water Skying.
Oh, wow.
Who'd she go with?
She has.
She just went like two months ago at the beginning of summer and she went and yeah, she's
her friend from Santa Barbara's parents have a home and a boat, I guess.
So they took a road trip and they did it this week because she has no work this week on
hiatus.
So she got getting the car and drove out there.
That's a problem with PA jobs.
I hate us.
Right.
But restaurants don't go on hiatus.
Yeah.
And that means your paycheck's on hiatus.
Yeah.
But hey, at least she's getting some money right now.
Yes.
Thank God.
Yeah.
So she's in Tahoe.
Sunny has been.
His friends have all been out of town and gone and on trips.
Really?
Yeah.
I had, you know, to watch the UFC fight again this weekend with him.
Oh, no, you're going to have to.
Well, I did.
Yeah, and it's so gross because I can't eat while I'm watching the UFC fight because they're
bleeding and it's gross.
Oh, yeah.
So, um, but he's going into town and pretty soon in his annual trip to Monterey with
his dad.
Oh, he's going.
Yeah.
And he's looking forward to that.
Now does, oh, you know what?
Normally our kids would be going back to school at the time of the Monterey trip, but he
doesn't go back to Oregon.
No.
Later.
Yeah, it's it.
This has been great two years in a row.
Isn't it had, was it two years in a row?
Yeah, whatever.
Yes, school always starts at the same time he's in Monterey.
So he has to miss the first day or two because he's at a town.
But he's been going since he was 10, I think.
Mm-hmm.
He's been going a long time every year.
Wow.
And he loves it.
He meets people and yeah, so he's excited about that.
And then Natalia goes back to school in a few weeks in August.
I know.
It's so crazy that the some kids go back way earlier than other kids.
Yeah.
Like, Elbey doesn't go back until toward the end of September.
Right.
She moves into her apartment mid September, but classes don't start until I want to
say like September 26.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think Sunnies is like the middle of September.
I want to say, or maybe right after a Labor Day weekend, I guess.
I don't know.
But yeah, he doesn't go back.
But at least he's all set up.
You don't have to go and set him up all up again, you know?
Mm-hmm.
You're going to have to do that with Elbey, right?
Yeah.
I'm really not looking forward to it because so she has an apartment.
So we moved her out of her apartment completely because even if she'd gone back to university
apartments, she would have had to get a different apartment anyway.
They can't like keep the same apartment.
So I don't understand the situation with the new apartment and she doesn't know.
I keep asking her and she's like, well, I don't know because my roommate that I'm moving
in with is the one who's in contact with the landlords.
So I don't know if there's going to be furniture in there or not.
Yeah.
There could be because I know there's like crazy amount of turnover in the apartment because
they only rent to students.
Right.
But at the same time, I don't know like, will she have a bed?
Won't she have a bed?
So I might be, but the thing is I do have enough time so that even if I found out like at
the beginning of September, which is a ways away, I think I could.
I have friends that have beds that are in storage, like I could get it figured out.
Right.
Yeah, I'm sure you can.
And college, that whole town too, I'm sure there's like rent to this or you know, stack
it in people on Facebook, marketplace, like giving stuff away practically or it'll be
easy.
Any word back?
So okay.
He wrote, I waited for like 45 minutes for this dude then and then he knows a guy who
works there, who went and got the manager for me.
And then he talked to me for a bit and said they will review my application.
And if they want to move forward, they'll interview and I'll know in a few days.
He said, but I don't think he really liked that I was under 18 and have no job experience.
Oh.
No.
What about his friend?
His friend is, is he under 18?
I'm going to ask him, but does he have job experience?
You tell?
How the fuck are you supposed to get a job?
It's experience unless you get a job.
You're almost 18.
Maybe they want Trader Joe's to be like your second job.
Yeah.
I guess.
I know people that I feel like it was their first job.
Yeah.
And I remember that there was a girl who worked at that Trader Joe's who had the job in high
school.
She was a junior in high school.
I feel like they do hire some under 18.
My friend, he's the manager at my galsons that I know for like 40 years.
He was like in high school when he got the job at galsons.
He was under 18.
So I asked the under, did you tell him you're almost 18 and he says, yes, I did.
Okay.
And did you, did you tell him about your, sorry, this is not good podcasting?
No, it's all right.
Volunteering.
He's working at a camp for kids for free.
Oh, they like a job.
Right.
And he's playing gigs.
Whatever.
The kid is so busy anyway.
Yeah.
It's going to probably be taking a million AP classes.
I mean, listen, I don't want to be supporting.
Okay.
So he says he told him about his current situation.
I don't know.
Maybe the like, maybe the like his tenacity that yes, yeah.
People like that.
All times before.
Yeah.
People like that.
Whatever.
Poor kids.
Yeah.
Well, poor Sandy.
What else were we going to talk about?
Well, we were going to talk about you.
We're going to read that other article for the Amy Bradley thing.
Oh, in case people are not mad at us yet.
Okay.
So also I was going to tell you about the day laborers that we've been helping.
Yes.
So every Thursday, and we also did it on a Friday to a different location.
But last Thursday, so for you guys listening, not yesterday, but we are doing it this Thursday
as well.
Last Thursday, we went and got pizza.
We went and got Costco pizza.
Oh.
Got 18 pizzas plus soda, plus a bunch of Caesar salad.
And we and water and snacks.
Wow.
We I'm working with a little gang of women.
But I used money from people have been giving me donations, paid for it all with the donations.
And we brought it all over to this.
I'm not I can't not say where it is, but it's a center where a lot of these day laborers
congregate got it.
And we brought it over there.
And I got to tell you again, I was all these guys are so grateful.
I know.
They're so helpful.
Yeah.
They run over and they're just like, how can we help?
Let us get it.
They want it to hit.
I know.
They don't want us to carry out anything.
Yeah.
They are so like, and they're so like, thank you, thank you.
And then so we brought we left everything there and we didn't want to like virtue signal.
Yeah.
You know, so we are just like, we're good.
Yeah.
So the lady, there's a woman who runs the program for everybody.
So she came out and we were in contact with her.
And she was like, the men want you guys to come in.
They want to thank you.
And we were like, no, no, no, no, no, no, like we don't need to be think like it's okay.
And she was like, no, they really want you to like, please come in so that they can say
thank you.
They really want to.
And so we were like, all right.
That's so how many were in and they were all like clapping and saying, thank you.
And that's so the sweetest.
Four of us women.
And then one of us had left.
So there were three of us that went in there.
Oh, that's awesome.
And Tamra, Tamra has been doing it with me.
I know.
I want to do it.
Okay.
You can come on Thursday.
This Thursday, we're going to do what we did a couple of weeks ago, which was sandwiches.
So we're going to make, I'm going to make 20 sandwiches the night before.
It's a little far for you, but you can think about it.
But we made sandwiches the night before and then people brought them over and then we
did fruit.
We loaded up bags with like chips, sandwich, a water, a soda, cookies, and then you load
all that up into granola bars.
Yeah.
And we put them all in separate bags and then we loaded them all into the car and just drove
into the place.
That's so awesome.
And then brought them out in like big boxes.
That's great.
With a bunch of bags.
I love that.
What a great little organization thing.
You're, I mean, it's amazing what you're doing.
It's so great.
Like, it's hard because the more you do that, then the more you do that, the more
that you see the needs because then right, we were getting talked to by another person who's
involved with it that was saying that the like, there are a lot of kids whose parents are
really scared of ice right now.
So they don't have, it's hard for them to go out and even get school supplies and get groceries
and go to work.
So now another friend of mine who shall not be named works.
She's a teacher.
She was my kids teacher and she's amazing.
Super, super duke-er.
And she is trying to set up basically like a store in her classroom.
Oh, nice.
With gross, like almost like a little grocery store for like non-perishables.
Right.
You know, where the parents of some of the kids can come into her classroom and like do
it like shop.
That's amazing because me that during the fires when I was working with this one or
there's a sheet, this one woman, like she got a church in a room, like a conference room,
whatever at a church and set it up like a little store.
And like I was in charge of doing all the toiletries, you know, like putting all the people
would drop off boxes of toiletries and you go through them and put them in the toothpaste
and the mouth like, you know, like, yeah.
And then jeans and clothes and everything else and like, that's, it's really cool.
So that's a good idea because I'm sure that they they're afraid to go to,
they're not going to target.
Yeah, I feel like one of the places where it's a little safer to go is school.
Yeah.
So, but you know, a lot of these, but didn't like how do you get the word out too?
Because you don't want people to, it's, you want to keep it on the ground.
Well, she's got to tell her students to tell their parents that if they need supplies to
come into the classroom.
That's great.
And then she's going to set up, we're going to like donate, we're going to set up maybe
an Amazon wish list, trying to avoid Amazon, but like, and do like backpacks full of
like school supplies.
That's great.
I want to help.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'll put everything on Facebook.
I've been just setting it to like just my friends on Facebook so that it's not, I don't want
to put anybody in danger.
But I am so, not surprised.
I shouldn't be surprised, but it's such a good feeling to know how many people are like,
how can I help?
How can I send you money?
How can I be a part of it?
I know.
And if you're sending me donations, it is absolutely going to good use because we're doing
it every single week.
It's Stephanie are doing the Lord's work.
It really is.
You know what, you know, this kind of stuff makes me crazy and I feel like I have to do something.
I have to do something.
I have to.
So like, and my friend Jane, who does all of this and then some, last week she couldn't
come with us because on Thursday she couldn't come because she was going to, she's part
of this program called Get on the Bus that takes kids to go, who are parents who are incarcerated,
who takes the kids to go see the parent who's incarcerated.
Wow.
She's such a do-go-ter.
How do you even think of something like that?
That's crazy.
She's just, I think she finds out about a lot of these programs from her church and then
she just joins everything.
She's super politically active.
She's just involved with every organization.
She's the person.
I just go to her Facebook and go, okay, what do I need to be doing?
She started this.
Great.
And I just contacted her and I was like, I want to help with this.
And she was like, okay, can we do it at your house?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's, that's just so great.
It's really inspiring.
We all need to get our communities together in Rally for the good cause for people that
need it.
And the more you do it, the more you want to do it because you see that it's a need,
that there's a need for it.
Yeah.
And it keeps you going.
It just makes me so unhappy.
The people that are here just trying to do good things, not criminals, like people that
are just trying to earn some money for their families that, you know, that they feel so
other and so like trash and that we're just, you know, and it's the feeling they have
when they just see people that are like, no, we're not, we, we support you.
Right.
We care about you.
Yeah.
That, that must be a good feeling when they see that, you know, that's amazing.
Yeah.
This, this government right now is just coming for all of the vulnerable communities, you
know, it's scary.
It is.
I just went to this movie about this guy named Chase Strangio who's a transgender attorney.
He's like amazing, who fought the Supreme Court at the Supreme Court level for Tennessee
kids that they banned gender care, gender affirming care in Tennessee.
And he lost.
So it's in the movie, in the movie ends with him like losing the court case.
It's just really depressing.
Yeah.
But, you know, I just cannot wait for the Trump administration to be done.
Yeah.
I know.
I mean, a lot of damage is being done.
A lot of people, you know, they think that this is a good thing and it's because of the right-wing
media.
The narrative, right.
And the narrative that trans kids, that if we could just stop them from transitioning
before they're 18 or Trump wants to make it 19, right, that we would just prevent a
lot of kids from making these big giant mistakes and regretting it later, which I do understand
if you don't have a trans kid, I really do get the idea.
And I try to put myself in the place of like, if I wasn't actually dealing with the situation,
how would I feel about people like letting their kids transition, you know, at a young age.
And I really think that I would be like, well, I didn't know everything like at a young
age.
But if you have a kid, people need to understand and I've said this to you before.
None of us parents of trans kids are like, oh, you think you're a boy?
Well, let's go ahead and get you like, right?
>> Right.
>> Addicated.
>> Right.
>> Like let's go ahead and make some decisions.
>> Exactly.
>> As a boy.
>> Anybody who has a trans kid started out freaking horrified.
>> Yes.
>> Nobody is like, and anybody that has a kid that's confused or is like, I think I feel this way,
nobody, but nobody would be approving any kind of, you know, you could, I think you could
look at my scenario and go, okay, but her kid was only like eight years old.
But then if you look at the whole picture, which people don't do, right?
>> They don't look at the whole picture.
>> And you look at the research and there is a lot of research because the people that
we've gone through, the doctors we've had have been doing this for, you know, 30 years.
>> Wow.
>> And you look at the actual statistics that most people don't know about, which is that
the D transition rate for kids who actually went through like a medical chain.
And I'm not talking about surgery.
I'm talking about like hormones, which are reversible.
The actual numbers of kids D transitioning are 1%.
>> Yeah.
>> So what you're left with is a bunch of kids that go like, I'm trans and they're not really
trans.
They just go through like a, like a very heavy tomboy period or they watched a lot
of the anime and they're like, I think I am this and their parents just like let it
breathe and don't do anything about it.
And then like a year later they go, or they go by a boy name and they cut their hair short
and they wear all boy clothes, right?
They go, I'm a boy.
And they live that way for a year and then they go, you know what, that was a mistake.
>> Yeah, right.
>> I'm actually just gay or whatever.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, that shouldn't count as D transitioning because, do you know what I mean?
>> Yeah.
>> You went through a phase and you cut your hair different.
>> So they count that?
>> Yes.
>> See?
>> Learn stuff.
>> So a lot of what you hear about is like, yeah, listen, I'm alive and a parent with kids
in school.
I see a lot of kids and I've known a lot of parents who have kids who like decided that they
change their pronouns and they change and that it didn't last.
>> Right.
>> Tons of them.
>> Yeah.
>> I get how people could be like, you see, we can't just start giving these kids hormones
and I agree with you.
We can't.
But if your kid is the actual small percentage of kids who are actually transgender, you
will know.
>> Yes, right.
>> Yes.
And thank God that your child had parents like you and John, like a lot of these kids and
that's why it's scary with this administration, you know, and all the narrative and all the
stories and then people don't know the facts, people don't research.
And that's scary.
>> What do they just think?
They look at a situation and they go, well, that just can't possibly be true.
Like a kid can't possibly know, right, at that young and age.
And like I said, I can see somebody thinking that.
But then you haven't been, you haven't met a bunch of parents who have kids who are 100
percent, right?
Don't go back.
>> Yes, right.
>> And you haven't met people who have kids who weren't allowed to transition, right?
Or change genders and they're incredibly sad to press.
>> Yes.
>> I know.
I remember, I mean, sitting next to you for all these years, like I just remember when
Zander got his hair cut and like just lit up like a Christmas tree, like the light, like
he was just a different kid.
Like it just seemed so happy, like checking himself out in the mirror and everything where
before he didn't want to go in front of the mirror.
And that's so sad that you know, that's heartbreaking, but so happy.
And a lot of people don't realize that many years went by between the time that he just had
a hair cut and a name to the time that he started taking hormones.
>> Yes.
Years and years went by.
>> Yes, yes, yes.
>> And that is even reversible.
So, like, yeah, that's it.
>> We didn't say people don't know.
>> But that's also because his body, to make your body grow and to keep your bones healthy,
you have to have some hormones in your body.
If you go through female puberty, the path forward after that is a lot harder than if you
arrest puberty and then you go through the correct puberty for who you are.
So, I don't know.
I just say like, don't judge unless you're in those shoes and there are a lot of doctors
who have been doing this work for a lot of years and then let's listen to them.
>> Yes.
>> Instead of just like what you heard from some YouTube show.
>> Exactly.
>> It told you that makes you go like, yeah, you're right, we shouldn't be.
And it's just, it is.
>> So, I saw this movie and I was like, I was-
>> What's the name of the movie?
>> It's called Heightened Screwtony.
>> Okay.
I want to see it.
>> It should look up Chase Strangio, just spelled the way it sounds.
And he's such a freaking rock star.
And he's the one.
>> He's the lawyer for the ACLU.
And just trying to go against this mass disinformation that is coming out like a fire hose at people
and making them even people like, center left people are maybe right wing on this issue.
>> Yeah, that's scary.
>> Don't understand it.
>> Yeah.
Anyway.
Here's another issue.
Let's get off that topic.
And we were going to talk, I was going to tell you more about the Amy Bradley.
>> Yeah.
>> By the way, so I am.
I'm re-listening to Cold, the podcast Cold, which is about the Susan Powell case.
>> Oh, yes.
Right.
Okay.
It's one of the best podcasts ever.
And it's like 15 episodes.
So we're all good and juicy.
>> Yeah, I remember us talking about it.
>> Yeah, so that was a while ago though, and you know our brand.
>> Yes, yes.
>> If you re-list into it right now, you would love it.
>> It's like new.
>> Yeah.
>> It's like brand new-
>> It's one of the best podcasts ever.
>> But see, I've seen a couple documentaries on it.
I feel like.
>> Yeah, but this is really juicy.
>> The so many interviews.
>> Crazy as fucking dad.
>> Oh, the dad.
>> That's the grandpa of those kids, Josh Powell's dad.
>> Right.
>> Eve Powell checking her out.
>> Do you remember the songs?
How he recorded songs about her?
>> Yes, that's right.
Yeah.
And he would like stare at her.
The craziest, the other crazy part too, that stands out every time I think about that
story is the fucking 911 call when the social worker makes it.
Like I smell smoke and he's like, where are you?
And she's like, I'm just a social, I don't know.
I'm like, I hear explosions in the house and there's kids in the house.
Well, ma'am, how am I supposed to get there?
He was such a dick.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> And she's just like, I don't, oh my god, if you go look into that 911 call, you want
to fucking punch that guy.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, remember when we were doing Sword and Skill rewind and we would get mad sometimes
at the 911 operators and then a bunch of our listeners, not a bunch, but a few people
were so mad at us for being mad at 911.
>> Listen, there's a couple, there's some bad 911, just like any bad job, just like anything.
>> Just like any bad jobs.
>> Yeah, bad podcasters.
Shame.
>> Yeah, but there are some really bad ones that guess what?
Do get fired from their jobs.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah, yeah.
That guy didn't get enough.
I don't think he, I don't even know if he got suspended, but yeah, he was, he was awful
to her.
>> We need to go back in time and make sure he got suspended.
>> Yeah, we have to get on that.
>> Let's solve that.
>> So, okay, I promise I can't solve Amy Bradley.
>> I would read a law enforcement take on the Amy Bradley case.
>> Yeah, I want to know what a law enforcement officer would say.
>> It's a little long, so I'll try to skip parts.
>> Okay.
>> It's another street that hang?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
So, the truth about what most likely happened and why from a person with experience in law
enforcement?
So are they in law enforcement?
I don't know.
Okay.
Okay, let me start up by saying what a horrible tragedy for this family and Amy's friends.
I had looked into this case before the Netflix documentary after hearing about it on a podcast.
First off, Netflix dramatically and purposefully pushed conspiracies in the documentary that
have zero actual incredible evidence to even suggest that the conspiracies have credibility.
Why you ask?
Well, to make the documentary successful.
I will say they obviously achieved that.
The fact is, a case about a person falling overboard and their body not being recovered is
a lot less interesting than a wild story with twists and turns that sounds like it was written
straight from Hollywood.
The first thing to look at is the story from the people who last saw Amy, her family.
Throughout the years, there have been many discrepancies.
The more they tell the story, details added and other details lost.
Are they purposely changing their story?
Probably not.
We're talking about something that happened years and years ago.
Let's look at this logically for a moment and not from an emotional standpoint.
A cruise ship room is smaller than most bedrooms.
You have four adults staying in this tiny room.
On one side is the door to exit.
And on the other, a sliding glass door leading to a small balcony overlooking the ocean.
Amy's parents come back to the room first and go to sleep, followed by her brother who
says Amy returned shortly after.
They sit on the balcony together and chat before her brother heads back inside to sleep.
This was all after a night of drinking, drinking from the early evening until the early morning
hours.
Amy's brother has stated in the past that Amy said she was going to remain outside due
to needed air and not feeling well.
Pause for one second.
Are they are those two sleeping?
There's only one bed in the room.
I think they were sleeping in a bed together.
So there was two beds in the room.
I think there were two beds in the room.
Okay.
She was sharing a bed with her brother.
Okay.
The creep isoid.
Sunny Natalia would never stand for that.
I mean, right?
No way.
Okay.
Amy's brother, he goes to sleep on a pull out bed.
Okay.
Okay, which he says in past interviews was basically right up against the glass door to
the balcony.
A short time later, Amy's dad claims to have been woken up by something and notices Amy
is still laying out on a chair on the balcony before her dad drifts back asleep.
A short time later, no more than two hours later, Amy's dad wakes up again to find Amy's
no longer on the balcony.
According to him, he immediately began searching the ship for her and within an hour attempts
to notify staff on the cruise ship that Amy's missing.
Remember that that was really weird?
Yes.
And no, though, because if you're looking and you're kind of worried, you don't know where
she, I mean, an hour is kind of, but maybe not let she's missing.
I would say, hey, I can't find my daughter.
Can you page her and say, like, you know, Natalia or Natalia come to the desk?
You know, I would say that first, like not missing, not jump to missing.
Right.
Okay, go ahead.
Okay.
So, so what makes sense and what does not make sense?
The first thing I would like to point out is that for someone to come in and take Amy
isn't really possible.
Anyone entering the room is recorded due to the key card access needed to get into the
rooms, leaving the only option for Amy ever exiting the room to be her leaving on her
own.
Well, if this is the case, why leave behind all her personal belongings, including the normal
essentials that people have on them every day to include her purse, shoes, et cetera.
I would also like to point out that she would have needed to leave the tiny room without
waking anyone.
With the size of the room, it's unlikely that a person likely still intoxicated would have
come through the room and left without making a sound.
Now, that's true, right?
That is true.
Yeah.
You've been drunk and like been quite as a mouse sneaking out.
Yeah, no, no, and not in a little room.
And also did she have other shoes other than the Birkenstocks?
I know.
So that's what I don't know, but her, why would you, but here, let me ask you this though,
the Birkenstocks are obviously what she was wearing, right?
Because she left them on the balcony.
So would she have gone into her suitcase for a second pair of shoes?
Yeah.
No.
And you'd have to wrestle around in your suitcase, right?
All everybody's sleeping.
Right.
For what reason?
Why wouldn't you have just taken the shoes?
You're wearing shoes on, yeah, right?
That doesn't make sense.
Okay.
Now, let's talk about the state of the room.
According to family, the door, the balcony was cracked open and the shirt Amy had been
wearing was sitting on a chair just inside the door.
A table from the balcony was moved and was now sitting up against the railing of the
balcony overlooking the ocean.
This is it.
No sign of a struggle, nothing else is suspicious.
Now let's talk about the reaction Amy's father had when he found out she was not still on
the balcony.
Amy was an adult, a grown adult who no longer lived at home and was independent.
Cruise ships are like little floating cities, which sounds fun to me.
On many cruise ships, it can take an hour to walk from one end to the other.
Why after looking around for Amy for less than an hour, did Amy's father immediately feel
that she was missing?
Most logical people would assume their fully grown daughter was just out and about on the
ship doing whatever, right?
Now let's talk about the steps taken in the investigation that are relevant.
While back then, cruise ships were not equipped with as many cameras as today.
The ship did have cameras at many of the common areas of the ship.
We know that not a single camera captured Amy outside of her room after getting back
in for the night.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Side note, people are critical about the cruise
ship's staff's response when first notified by the family, referred to my points above.
A grown adult not being seen by their parent for less than an hour on a giant cruise ship
is not uncommon nor reason to cause panic.
The cruise ship is filled with hundreds of people enjoying their vacation to believe it's
reasonable for, with the information available to the staff on the ship at the time, shut down
all operations, refuse to allow anyone to exit the ship and begin forcefully searching
people's personal items is absurd.
I will say the people from the staff of the ship interviewed in the recent documentary
did appear cold-hearted and callous, but imagine years and years of conspiracy theories
and people accusing the staff for being in on it when reality, the thing that likely happened
is obvious.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
So now this is his theory.
Okay.
Now to what likely happened.
Amy comes back to the room and sits on the balcony.
She stays out there when her brother goes to bed due to feeling sick from a night of drinking.
At some point, Amy feels like she's going to puke.
Amy removes her going out shirt to not get puke on it and stands up on the table leaning
over the rail so she can throw up.
Amy leans too far is sick.
Amy's dad is awoken when he hears her fall overboard but doesn't actually fully wake up.
When Amy's dad wakes up in the morning and finds she isn't on the balcony and recalls
being awoken earlier in the morning, he realizes what happened, which is why his panic is immediate
due to shock.
Amy's father cannot and will not accept this outcome.
And after years of telling himself this isn't what happened, he actually believes it.
The grand she was smuggled off the ship in traffic conspiracy isn't even the second most
likely outcome.
Sadly, the next logical and likely thing is that Amy jumped off the ship on purpose.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
I'm not going to ask the conspiracies.
Okay.
Just a little bit left here.
Yeah, no, I'm so into this guy.
Okay.
Without the photos of the sex worker thought to be Amy, you have nothing.
A few witnesses who are not credible who claim to have met Amy on the islands.
Let me point out people claim to see Elvis, Tupac and Michael Jackson to this day.
I will also tell you as someone who interviews witnesses daily that the amount of detail
and information these witnesses claim to recall about their interactions with Amy is unrealistic.
You are talking things that happened years and years ago that were insignificant enough
for them to not notify anyone yet they're claiming to recall vivid details.
It just doesn't happen that way.
The witnesses are either lying or misremembering the interactions that they had due to confirmation
bias.
The ones misremembering, I'm sure actually do believe they saw Amy, but they did not.
The next fact I would like to point out is that 70 to 80% of people who fall overboard
are never recovered.
The recently documented leads, people, something, the documentary leads people to believe that
if Amy went into the water she would have washed ashore that is actually statistically
very unlikely to happen.
To address the photo, yes it bears a resemblance to Amy.
One analyst who studied the photo for the FBI came to the conclusion that it could be
Amy.
It was never confirmed to be Amy.
In fact, other experts have looked at the photos and determined it is a different person.
Also other photos of the woman from angles that clearly don't look like Amy, not to mention
there are people who have come forward claiming to have known the woman in the photo and say
it's not Amy.
Of course, they don't include that in the documentary.
Right.
The last point I want to make, human trafficking does not happen like it does in Hollywood movies.
It is a horrible disgusting crime, but it doesn't happen like taken.
I'm not trying to be mean, but Amy was not some Miss America either.
Wow.
She kind of looks like your average tomboy.
Not sure why the documentary paints a picture of Amy being some kind of prize that the traffickers
target and will go to extreme measures to abduct.
People who are trafficked are usually groomed by a significant other or a runaways who
get in with the wrong crowd.
Sadly, people trafficked usually get themselves into a bad position and then the evil traffickers
make it impossible for them to leave.
The conclusion is again, zero actual evidence of Amy ever leaving the balcony anyway other
than falling or jumping.
Very sad.
My heart aches for the friends and family.
I pray Amy is in peace.
Oh, wow.
What did not?
Yes.
Go.
Yes, yes.
We solved it.
We solved this guy's solved it, but we solved it because we repeated it.
Yes.
I mean, that totally absolutely makes sense.
If you take that picture out of it, you do have nothing.
You have all these people that said they saw her.
Could be anybody.
And yeah, I don't think sex trafficking really, he's right.
It doesn't work that way.
It's usually like, yeah, runaways that need drugs and do prostitution, fall into the wrong
hands, you know, or groomed.
Because that's a good point.
This isn't happened by the meeting the base player of a woman who's there with her parents
who's 20.
I mean, it just would be really hard to get her off the ship and search sex trafficking
her.
Do you think the brother pushed her over?
Does anybody saying that?
There was also a theory I had heard that they were fighting.
I don't know.
I don't want to say that because like, we don't really have proof of that, but I don't
know, just a thought.
I know.
It is really awful.
It is weird though that, yeah, the room is so small and that of the shirt on the couch was
a good point because if she liked that shirt and it was her going out shirt and she's going
to throw it up, that makes sense.
Why put it inside?
Why not just put it on the chair outside?
I thought it was on the chair outside.
No, it was on the couch inside, wasn't it?
I thought he said it was on the outside on the chair where she'd been sitting on.
So she took off her shirt and was going to go puke.
Right.
I think that just makes so much more sense.
It does make more sense.
Especially with the table pushed up against the thing against the, they'd back in there.
Yeah.
How do they know that for sure was that it was the set up on all the balconies the same
with the chairs here and then whatever.
But yeah, why was that pushed up against the balcony?
That's, and then she goes, you know, on it to puke over the balcony.
Yeah, thinking.
Yeah.
Well, the guy said the balcony was pretty tall.
So she had to like get some height to throw up.
And you know, if you're drunk and you're sick and you're like, oh, shit, and she said she
wasn't feeling well, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think she fell over.
That's really sad.
But then why are the parents like, the parents is weird.
And he's right, an adult child.
I thought that watching the documentary.
It's like, it's only been two hours.
They're going to like, she's an adult.
It's not like a toddler.
Right.
What's the, you know, they want to stop everything.
Right.
And the, yeah, the crew is huge.
The boat's huge.
She could be anywhere.
Yeah.
Just do it like paging, paging Amy.
That kind of thing.
But why, yeah, like she's missing, stop.
Don't let anybody off the shit.
Why is that conclusion?
Like, that's just weird.
Yeah.
They're trying to cover something up.
Yeah, I think the parents did it after all this, that's my conclusion.
And then on, then I have to go back and Facebook everybody and go, hey, I know I said the parents
did it, but I've been researching on Reddit and I don't think that anymore.
Right, right.
Anyway, it's so interesting.
Yeah, it's really just hooked into a story.
I know in a long time.
I got hooked in with Karen Reed.
I love that story.
I did too.
I was hooked.
Yeah.
But, yeah, I just love a good documentary, even if it's wrong.
I know we need to, we need there needs to be more.
Are there any watch the PI moms?
I did watch the PI moms.
Was it good?
I started watching it was like, this is kind of boring and I fell asleep.
Oh, darted bare effect.
I mean, no, it's not that good.
No, it's not what I thought it was going to be.
Right.
It was like the making of the TV show of the PI moms.
That's what I read in the reality show with these PI moms and the moms were all like,
how do we get her?
We were just PI moms, right?
We're out there solving crimes, like Lynette and Stephanie.
But then the guy who's running them turns out to be like a drug guy.
He's like selling drugs.
AC.
And there's somebody else is like calling it, it turns out that the reality show, they're
setting up some stuff to make a reality show.
But the PI moms don't even know that somehow.
And then the guy who hired all the PI moms gets arrested, spoiler alert.
Okay.
Yeah.
But he's a bad dude.
All right.
So between that and the balloon boy, come on Netflix.
Get going.
I know.
There's probably another train wreck though this week, right?
Or was that putting them out a lot?
Yeah, I don't know what's coming up.
But the best ones were the woodstock and the fire festival and those ones were good.
Those were train wrecks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now they just pumping them out every week and it's like an hour long and fucking kid in
a balloon.
The fuck?
Oh, I started watching hunting, hunting, hunting wives.
Hunting wives?
On Netflix.
Okay.
Because I think our group was, somebody was talking about it.
What is it?
It's drama and it's this couple, this liberal couple from Massachusetts moves to first job
moves to Texas to a small town and the liberal wife has to like hang out with the Republican
wives with the big hair and their guns and blah, blah, blah.
But like the first couple of us was like, I'm gonna say, because I couldn't sleep last night.
I was up all night.
It's one of those, I hate those nights.
And then by like three, four, I was like, wait, what?
Then it started kind of getting good.
And the acting's pretty good and the story's pretty good.
It's just one of those Netflix.
You could take it or leave it, but it was, it's pretty good.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I've got that.
I got to finish my cold.
Everybody should go relist in the cold.
Yeah.
Season one.
It's pretty good.
Yeah.
And yeah.
And we've solved it.
And we solved Amy Bradley.
I think so.
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All right.
Thanks everybody.
You love it.
You love it, you know?
Don't eff it up.
It's a good, hearty day letting go.
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