1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,160 ♪ Entertain me, entertain me right now ♪ 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,120 - This is the Pop Culture Junkie podcast. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,800 I'm Olivia here with Shauna. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,400 And we're so pleased you have elected to spend time with us. 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:13,560 We're all about choice here. 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,040 And the fact that you choose Pop Culture Junkie 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,400 means everything to us. 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,960 - So it's been a little bit, what have you been up to, Shana? 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,840 - Oh, you know, just hanging with celebrities. 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,440 (laughing) 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,480 - Yes. 12 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,920 - Yeah, so as previously mentioned, and with the yes on top, 13 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,920 one, three, nine team in Arizona, 14 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,400 this is my first election I've worked on. 15 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,040 I've worked for a lot of like pro choice organizations 16 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,480 for years, but never a political campaign. 17 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:45,280 And getting to see like the inner workings 18 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,240 of the political campaign is so interesting. 19 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,880 And just every day, there's something every single day, right? 20 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,880 And so we had Chrissy Teigen come to town this past weekend. 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:57,960 - How did that go? 22 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,400 'Cause I know you didn't wanna like her initially. 23 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,640 - Oh my God, you know, I did think about my feelings 24 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,720 for Chrissy Teigen as I was very like neutral. 25 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:06,960 Like I didn't really know much about her, 26 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:07,800 except for like, she's-- 27 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:08,920 - That's what it means to not answer. 28 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,800 - Yeah, and I knew she was like hot and funny. 29 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:12,720 - And married to John Legend. 30 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:13,560 - And married to John Legend. 31 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,960 - She is an amazing cook. 32 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:16,120 - Yeah. 33 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,600 - It's not like I didn't like her. 34 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,400 I just didn't really like know much about her. 35 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:20,240 - About her to be fair. 36 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,080 It's kind of like how I feel about just any kind of 37 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,640 neutral celebrity, I don't know. 38 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,160 After meeting her, I'm obsessed with Chrissy Teigen. 39 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,560 I'm absolutely a fan. 40 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:29,520 - She was amazing. 41 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,520 So she came to Arizona specifically to canvas with us, 42 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,480 met some abortion storytellers at a coffee shop 43 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,360 and literally just sat with these women 44 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,800 and talked about her abortion experience 45 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,640 from a wanted pregnancy. 46 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,240 They all told their stories. 47 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,760 Then she came outside, did a little rally. 48 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,280 And then it was just me and her plus her entire entourage. 49 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,400 In a sprinter van, which I had never been in, 50 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,040 but they were like, oh, just getting our van, 51 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,440 just get in with us. 52 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,720 'Cause I was gonna just follow behind them in my car 53 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,880 and they were like, no, we have an extra seat. 54 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:04,880 Oh my God, okay. 55 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:05,720 - Okay. 56 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:06,800 - Is there candy? 57 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:07,800 - Literally. 58 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:08,640 - Oh my God. 59 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:12,240 So I told Chrissy, there's three rules to canvassing, 60 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,600 like three no-nose. 61 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,480 Don't go in anyone's house. 62 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,120 Don't ask for any candy or don't accept candy 63 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,000 from strangers and don't prine to their personal lives. 64 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,920 And she did all three of those and it was really funny. 65 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:24,600 (laughing) 66 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,600 She literally walked into somebody's house 67 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,680 to hug their husband and she came back out and was like, 68 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,000 Chrissy, we talked about this girl. 69 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,760 - Did you have like security with her? 70 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:35,880 - Yes, so. 71 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,120 - Was her security like, yeah, you could see 72 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,320 I'm just rolling his eyes. 73 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,640 I mean, okay, spoiler, but peak behind the curtain. 74 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:43,880 The houses we went to were like pre-vetted. 75 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:44,960 - Okay, yeah, good. 76 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:45,800 - So we didn't just show. 77 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,240 - I was wondering how that worked. 78 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,760 'Cause I'm like, ooh. 79 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,680 - You don't just show up to random strangers' houses 80 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,840 because we don't know if they're security risks. 81 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:53,680 - I mean, we do. 82 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:54,880 - I do all the time. 83 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,480 - Fuck, fuck, fuck, Shauna's health and safety. 84 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,200 Chrissy Teigan, let's, yeah. 85 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,800 No, when you think about this celebrity, 86 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,920 you go to their house in advance and you're like, 87 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:05,520 "Within the next hour, are you chill 88 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,640 if Chrissy Teigan comes by?" 89 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:08,160 And they're like, oh, yeah. 90 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,000 - Yeah. 91 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,000 - Absolutely. 92 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,280 Yes, please. 93 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,600 - Yes, please, that's so cool. 94 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,440 - Yeah. 95 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,320 So everybody was very sweet to her and she seemed like 96 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,640 genuinely really excited to be there. 97 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:20,880 It was so nice to me and like, asking about my life 98 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,000 and where I was just joking around. 99 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,160 And then once we were done, we went back for a final rally 100 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,720 and she was like sitting there and I was kind of on the side 101 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,680 'cause I was working and she turned around casually and saw me 102 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,480 and went, like, we waved all the throos yesically 103 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,520 and made the little heart sign and I waved back 104 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,360 and my coworkers looked at me and they're like, 105 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,160 you guys are like friends now, Shauna. 106 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,200 (laughing) 107 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,920 I mean, it's hard not to like this. 108 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,840 Oh my God. 109 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,040 And then as we were walking out and her security was there 110 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,480 and people were like, ambushing her, 111 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,240 like this guy showed up with like bathing suit posters 112 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,400 of her and her security guard to be like, 113 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,480 oh everybody back, hurry back. 114 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,040 She came up to me and like grabbed my shoulder 115 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,840 and was like, oh my God, Shauna was so nice 116 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,600 to hang out with you and it's like, 117 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,080 all right, I'm officially fucking a lovely person. 118 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,680 - Yeah, like can I take that sign and will you sign it? 119 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,480 - Yeah, I can take that sign and post her 'cause we're in love now. 120 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,920 But yeah, she was delightful. 121 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,600 She was very kind and very sweet. 122 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,480 So, yeah, you can go crazy to him. 123 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,160 - Yeah, you can really do it all 'cause you went out 124 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,760 the night before and that was quite the feat. 125 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,600 - Yeah, it was. 126 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,000 We had a good time though. 127 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:20,840 - That was a good time. 128 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:23,000 - Yeah, we were bar maidens. 129 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,200 The bar maidens, I don't know. 130 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,200 - Yeah, maidens. 131 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,280 - Maiden sounds more. 132 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:29,080 - Maiden sounds original though. 133 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,200 - Oh, does it? 134 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,200 I thought it was more like-- 135 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,040 - She's a maiden, 136 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,160 - Maiden, you're on our maiden voyage. 137 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,480 - I think like Maiden mother and crow. 138 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,160 (laughing) 139 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,920 - Yeah, so perfect fitting for us, we are innocent. 140 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:43,760 - We're just innocent, 141 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,480 we're not virgin bar maidens. 142 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,360 (laughing) 143 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,960 - I say with my devil t-shirt. 144 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,800 - Yeah. 145 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,040 (laughing) 146 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,040 - But yeah, I went out the night before with you guys 147 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,600 and we danced and it was fun. 148 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,640 - We went to Thundercat Lounge in Arizona, 149 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,480 which I've never been to, but it was so fun. 150 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,480 - It was great, they played great music. 151 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,160 It was like a lot of 80s synth pop and like the whole vibe 152 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,840 and there was like neon 80s. 153 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:09,080 - And then they hit us with iconopop, Charlie X-X. 154 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,480 - Yeah, that was like right before I left and I swear, 155 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,680 I lost my voice, you can still kind of hear me 156 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,840 - It was just from screaming, Britney Spears, 157 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:19,680 Chapel Rones. 158 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,200 - We did H-O-T-O-G-O, like really, we would all out. 159 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,480 - I was so proud because I've introduced so many people 160 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,760 to Chapel Rones and everyone was doing it. 161 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,520 - I wouldn't have known Chapel Rones if it wasn't people. 162 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,840 - Yeah, you don't, even introduced me to him before 163 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:34,480 she got like super popular to your sound. 164 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,800 - You're not like the other girls. 165 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,160 - It's okay, I found her on TikTok, 166 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,880 but I just found her like a little bit sooner 167 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,960 'cause you never check your TikTok. 168 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,880 - I was locked out of my TikTok. 169 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,440 - I tried because you never joked. 170 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,080 - I tried to get back in the other day 171 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,800 'cause I wanted to make a TikTok for work 172 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,720 and I ended up having to do it on reels 173 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,720 'cause I'm just, I'm locked out. 174 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:53,600 I'm totally locked out. 175 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,440 - I'm just like, 176 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,600 - Is this thing called password reason? 177 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,560 - No, I tried and listen girl. 178 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,760 It was like a solid 45 minutes. 179 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,960 - It's okay, you're younger, intelligent friend. 180 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,440 Well, I'll do a reset your password. 181 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,080 - I'm just, you can give big, maiden energy. 182 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,840 I'm giving crone energy, right? 183 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:13,520 - How do I get back into this damn tick? 184 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,280 - Yeah, none of us are mothers, 185 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:17,240 except unless we're counting Ziggy and puppies. 186 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,080 - Oh, and toast. 187 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:18,920 - And toast. 188 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,600 - But yeah, maybe you can help me get back into this. 189 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,520 I have like 200 unbeknown TikToks from you. 190 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,480 - Probably, I've actually been super busy, 191 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,920 so I haven't been on it as much. 192 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,000 - Send me reels instead that I can do. 193 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,440 - No, not that old. 194 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,160 (laughing) 195 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,200 - I love asking the younger volunteers. 196 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,520 I'm like, I have a so great working with you today. 197 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,360 Do you have an insta? 198 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,760 And they're like, no, I don't. 199 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:41,600 - I have a TikTok. 200 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,440 - I have a TikTok and I'm like, 201 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,280 wow, shit. 202 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:44,100 - Yeah. 203 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:46,000 - Well, I have a huge dimension. 204 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,040 - At least I need to ask for your Facebook. 205 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,040 (laughing) 206 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:49,880 - Well, I love that. 207 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,400 - What have you been up to? 208 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,640 - So I went to San Francisco again. 209 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,480 - Shocked. 210 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:56,400 - Yes, I know. 211 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:57,240 For work. 212 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,280 And what I did this time, 213 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:02,400 so instead of saying in a tiny little shoebox hotel, 214 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,400 me and my coworkers actually rented a Airbnb this time. 215 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,840 So nice. 216 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:11,480 It was like an older Victorian 217 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,000 and was just literally gorgeous. 218 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,640 It was like a $2 million home, 219 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,600 which was actually a street over from the painted ladies, 220 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,000 which you may have seen the painted ladies 221 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,080 in the iconic Princess Diaries. 222 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,240 And so my coworkers and I did a Princess Diaries marathon. 223 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,080 - Oh my God. 224 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,800 - Here, they announced them for three years. 225 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,240 - Yeah, so I wanna talk about it. 226 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,920 - So it's very timely for pop culture. 227 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,520 Now, I think rewatching the first one 228 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,920 really holds up to just like a good movie, 229 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,800 like fun watching at 31 and be like, "This is amazing." 230 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:46,640 I really love it. 231 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,320 I did not remember how cheesy the second one was. 232 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,600 - All I remember is Chris Pine. 233 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,280 Do they get depth together in the second one? 234 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,120 - Yes. 235 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,520 - They do, okay, I remember she's, 236 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,400 he's not kind of the evil one trying to steal a crown. 237 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,320 - Yeah, but then they fall in love. 238 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,440 She changes him because she's so pure art. 239 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,000 And then she becomes the queen. 240 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,000 - Mm-hmm. 241 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,800 - And I think that's all I remember. 242 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,120 And when she leads little girls holding their hands 243 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,720 and gives them all crowns or something. 244 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,600 - Yeah, like her bachelor art party is filled 245 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,760 with like 12 girls. 246 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,040 And I'm like, "Oh, okay." 247 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,680 - I know that part's really dumb. 248 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,200 - It's a little cheesier. 249 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,240 Like I think they were like, 250 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,680 "Oh, our audience really is like this demographic. 251 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,960 Well, it's a hint to it." 252 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,040 But I am really excited for the third one 253 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,000 'cause what she'd be like, she'll be the queen. 254 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 - She'll be like 40. 255 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,240 - 40, yeah. 256 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,480 - Chris Pine still is. 257 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,760 - So he hasn't confirmed that he's a part of it, 258 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,280 but I'm assuming she's executive producer. 259 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,040 And so they haven't really gotten that far. 260 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,120 It'd be very early in pre-production, 261 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,280 but that was amazing. 262 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,320 - No, I always make this joke 263 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,840 that every time I go to San Francisco, 264 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,040 I think about two things. 265 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,280 The Prince of Styrates and the Zodiac Killer. 266 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,280 (laughing) 267 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,320 - So Ted Cruz and Ann have the way. 268 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,120 - Yeah, Ted Cruz. 269 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,440 - Oh, I was gonna say, 270 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,280 - Nipples. 271 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,400 - Oh, so yeah, no, I never watched it. 272 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,480 - I wasn't in a big full house, Carly. 273 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,280 I know the iconic you got it, dude, 274 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:11,280 but I was in Marikay and Ashley Olsen stand 275 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,000 once the director DVD. 276 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 - No, movies can now. 277 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,880 - I've never seen any of those either. 278 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,120 I feel like I was in that weird little time in my life 279 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:19,960 where we just-- 280 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:20,960 - You are the crown. 281 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,360 - I am the crown. 282 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,240 We were trying to watch rated-hour movies and sleepovers. 283 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,080 - Yes, yeah. 284 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,160 I mean, I don't think they're very good to go back on 285 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,600 at this age, but they are iconic. 286 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,280 Megan Fox got her start. 287 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,120 - And then I owned in the sun one. 288 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,200 - That is so cute. 289 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,440 - The mean hot girl. 290 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:39,600 - Of course she's a mean hot girl. 291 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,400 (laughing) 292 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,440 - And so funny enough, the next night, 293 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,800 Netflix released a Zodiac Killer documentary. 294 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,640 - Oh, okay, got a lot of that. 295 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:50,760 - Yeah, it's pretty good. 296 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,520 They're making a case for this man named Robert Allen 297 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,320 to actually be the Zodiac Killer. 298 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,000 I mean, every single Zodiac Killer documentary 299 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,760 makes a case for like, who is this person? 300 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:02,520 - A different person, yeah. 301 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,440 - And one of the most interesting updates 302 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,040 with the Zodiac Killer is they've never been able 303 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,880 to fully solve this, all the ciphers. 304 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:11,720 - Yeah. 305 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,400 - But they've gotten, I wanna say two, 306 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,200 but AI is actually now helping to solve it. 307 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,040 - Oh yeah. 308 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:17,880 - So they may actually solve it. 309 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,640 - I was gonna say, we just need to get an autistic person 310 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:20,640 on the case. 311 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:21,640 - Listen. 312 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:22,480 (laughing) 313 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:23,320 - And so. 314 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,320 - They won't solve that shit in two minutes. 315 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,840 - Yeah, I watched one on Amazon Prime. 316 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,440 I think it's also in Hulu. 317 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:31,920 That was a really good one as well. 318 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,400 I mean, the case for like, these three different people 319 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,040 as well, but yeah, I mean, the most interesting part 320 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,680 about the Zodiac Killer is he just abruptly stopped. 321 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:43,120 And so he either was imprisoned or-- 322 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,640 - What year is this in the '60s? 323 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,480 - It's in the '70s. 324 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:46,880 - So he could still be alive. 325 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,920 - Yeah, so yeah, but pretty old. 326 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:49,760 - Yeah. 327 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,760 - And so he's either killed or incarcerated 328 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:55,760 for something else. 329 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,600 - He's not the old one. 330 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,440 - He's not the old one. 331 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,640 - Yeah, he's said, he's like, I was in a silly mood. 332 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:00,960 - Not over it. 333 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:01,960 (laughing) 334 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,600 - No more murder for me. 335 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,440 - I got to murder, please. 336 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,080 - So I got to fulfill both my dreams. 337 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,080 I watched that. 338 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,360 I also went and saw Smile too. 339 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,000 - I loved it. 340 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,200 - Yeah, it was so good. 341 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,400 - It was like scary. 342 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,720 - Yeah, I will say, much goryer. 343 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:20,840 - Yeah, it was gory time. 344 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:21,680 - Was that Smile one? 345 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:24,440 - I had to do this for like one scene. 346 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,560 - I had my hands on my face, like, oh God. 347 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:28,920 - Just for a long time. 348 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,840 - I want buttery fingers. 349 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,240 - Yeah, butter is getting buttered popcorn. 350 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,360 - Yeah, I ate so much popcorn. 351 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,560 I had a hella bubbleguts that night anyway. 352 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:38,400 - Yeah. 353 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,360 (laughing) 354 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,880 - But, I mean, I guess it's not really spoiler 355 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,040 'cause this is what Smile's about. 356 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,760 When the first guy kills himself 357 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,800 in the apartment and she watches. 358 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:50,960 - Very disturbing. 359 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,440 - I would say, oh my God, this is horrible. 360 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,440 - It's dangfully my friend had gone and seen it 361 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,160 like earlier in the day and I was like, 362 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,000 oh, did you like it? 363 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,800 Like, spoiler for your review and she's like, 364 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,760 it's much goryer. 365 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,600 So I was kind of like primed for it, 366 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,880 but I will say, you know, going into it, 367 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,760 know that it's a little goryer. 368 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:06,600 - But really good. 369 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,880 - Shona and I have talked about how we don't like gory 370 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:09,960 and we still really liked it. 371 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,760 I liked it more than the first one. 372 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,880 - I did too and I didn't think it was too like over 373 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:14,840 the top gory. 374 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,960 Like I can do gory like that where it kind of gives you 375 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,040 that like, ugh, sensation. 376 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,560 Like Andrew has been watching the terrifying movies 377 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:23,800 and I refuse to watch those. 378 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:24,800 I can't. 379 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:25,640 - Yeah. 380 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,520 - Any movie that has the promo of like, 381 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,160 people are throwing up in the theater. 382 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,000 I'm like, why would I want to do that? 383 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,720 - I spent good money on this meal. 384 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,520 - I already have enough of this stomach problem. 385 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,520 I'm good. 386 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,040 - Maybe I already have ideas. 387 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,560 (laughing) 388 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:43,720 - And you know, I will say, so they, 389 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,680 NEPO baby casting worked its magic probably 390 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:47,800 for the first time ever. 391 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,440 It has brain neckl soon in it. 392 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,880 - Oh, yeah, just great. 393 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,240 - And you can immediately tell that it's 394 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,680 triac nookl soon sun. 395 00:12:54,680 --> 00:12:56,240 - Naila once you start to see. 396 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,360 - Especially with smiles. 397 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,200 - Yeah. 398 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,040 - Spoilery smiles. 399 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,720 - Yeah, don't figure smiles. 400 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,920 - And I just loved it. 401 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:03,960 I thought it was really good. 402 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,320 And yeah, there is something about that smile 403 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,200 that is just so creepy. 404 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,240 - I was doing it to Andrew for days after. 405 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:11,440 - Oh, it's just like, 406 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:12,440 (laughing) 407 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:13,600 - Oh, you're actually pretty good at that. 408 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,440 - Thank you. 409 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,760 - Yeah, I really need to be. 410 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:16,600 - You're really pretty. 411 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,000 (laughing) 412 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,520 - If you do that plus the rocking, 413 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:21,680 like paranormal activity. 414 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:23,160 - Oh, you got this like both. 415 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,000 - Yeah. 416 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,440 - Yeah, again, I would totally knock you out. 417 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,280 - That time though. 418 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,800 - He dropped me up at Walgreens, 419 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,240 like the next day and he's like, 420 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,440 I'm gonna stay in the car and I was like, 421 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,080 I gotta go get that on a tampon or lip gloss or some 422 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:34,920 girl shit. 423 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,760 - You know, yeah, girl bangs. 424 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,600 (laughing) 425 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,920 - I get out of the car and I just stand in front of the car 426 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:40,760 and I'm just like, 427 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,760 (laughing) 428 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:43,880 and you can't see him in the car. 429 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,960 He's like, get the fuck in there. 430 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:46,800 He's like, about to get up. 431 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,200 He's like, stop it. 432 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,760 - He just drives you off the road. 433 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:51,680 I get back in the car and he's like, 434 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:52,960 people can see. 435 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,000 (laughing) 436 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,760 - I don't care. 437 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,160 - He's like, I knock on doors for a living right now. 438 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,000 I have no chance. 439 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,720 I literally like, I do not care. 440 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:01,560 - Yeah. 441 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:03,120 - People think, yeah, don't care. 442 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,520 Maybe I should care more. 443 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,840 (laughing) 444 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:06,680 - Oh, I love that. 445 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:09,440 Anything else you've really watched in a middle break? 446 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,640 - Oh god, I've just been watching a lot of scary movies. 447 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,960 I watched Sleepy Hollow for the first time. 448 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,080 - I know, I've never seen it all the way through. 449 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:16,920 - He's a classic. 450 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:17,920 - I really enjoyed it. 451 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,040 - Johnny Depp was so hot. 452 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,040 - He's so hot. 453 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:20,880 - I love it. 454 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:21,840 - Christina Ricci is really pretty. 455 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,680 - Yeah. 456 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:23,640 - So I really enjoyed that. 457 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,080 I watched a movie called Strange Darling. 458 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,920 - I don't know if I've seen it. 459 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,560 - Yeah, it's definitely like a kind of under the radar 460 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,720 thriller. 461 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,160 I don't want to spoil the thing about it 462 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,840 because it starts one way and you think you know 463 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,000 where it's going. 464 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:37,920 - Oh god, I don't know. 465 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:38,920 - No one knows. 466 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,600 - Oh my god, okay, the actor who is in Jennifer's body. 467 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:42,440 - Oh, I'm in. 468 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,280 - Seafreech. 469 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,760 - No, it's the guy who plays like the little golf boyfriend. 470 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,080 - Oh, funny. 471 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,400 - He's in a told man when he's hot as hell. 472 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,600 He's so fine. 473 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:51,680 Great mustache. 474 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,120 - We watched Jennifer's body. 475 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,160 This is so random. 476 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,480 But I knew a girl in a high school who is cousins with him. 477 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,440 And they have the same very flat face. 478 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,280 Sorry. 479 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,280 And every time I see him, I can't not see that girl. 480 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,600 - Look at him now. 481 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,440 I don't know. 482 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,400 I didn't even realize it was him until later. 483 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,720 And I was like, there's no. 484 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,800 I had a bad mushroom trip with that girl though. 485 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,920 So I think it's just imprinted in my brain. 486 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:17,920 - You're gonna watch this movie 487 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,640 and just have like mushroom flashbacks. 488 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:20,840 Oh my god. 489 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,880 Literally, I know. 490 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:23,720 - Literally. 491 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:24,840 - I'm very handsome now. 492 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:25,680 - Okay. 493 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,520 I'll watch it. 494 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:27,360 - Great movie. 495 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,360 Yeah. 496 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,680 It reminded me kind of like, oh gosh. 497 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,040 What's that movie that came out last year where it looks like it's gonna be about an Airbnb 498 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,800 gone wrong and then all of a sudden there's a monster in the walls. 499 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,800 - Yeah. 500 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,080 That movie is so bad. 501 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,080 - I love our very-- 502 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,120 - It's like two separate movies put together. 503 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,960 - The only reason it reminded me of this is because when the movie starts, you're like, 504 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,280 oh, this is a movie about XYZ. 505 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,280 - Okay. 506 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,280 - And then about halfway through. 507 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,800 You're like, oh, this is not a movie about XYZ. 508 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,760 - Is it as jarring of a jump? 509 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:51,760 - No. 510 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,760 - Okay, good. 511 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:53,760 - It makes sense. 512 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,200 It's just like, only in the way that like, you think you know where you're going within and 513 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,200 it's not. 514 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,720 So I definitely would recommend that. 515 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:01,720 I love that. 516 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:07,840 Well, since you've been having such a foray into politics as of late, we wanted to talk 517 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:15,360 about a better time, a time before the madness of our political season where politicians 518 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,640 could just be good people on camera. 519 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,200 We'll talk about that after the break. 520 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,200 - Yeah. 521 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:32,000 - My fellow junkies, Shana and I don't have to tell you or anyone, that is an election happening 522 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,000 in this country. 523 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,960 You've gotten 20,000 texts probably while watching this episode. 524 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,560 - But it come like it, my phone number. 525 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:39,560 - Yeah, so weird. 526 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,440 - Madala, what are you doing here? 527 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Unfortunately, even your dog probably knows that it is an election season. 528 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,680 - Oh, she knows because I've been very anxious. 529 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,480 - I just need to hold you. 530 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:57,560 The other day, you sent that video of her wet and I, it was so jarring. 531 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,680 It was like, she's so much tired of you. 532 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,160 - No, it looked like a demon for a second. 533 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,720 It was like, Buffy is like, "You, what did she do to you?" 534 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,720 - Buffy is 90% fluke. 535 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:09,720 - Yeah. 536 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,760 - She gets her wet and she's just a little griblin. 537 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,760 - Maybe you're lucky. 538 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,760 We'll share it here. 539 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,200 And we may not know the outcome of the election until after this episode comes out. 540 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,720 - Well, actually, Sean is hedging a bet that it comes out on Thursday. 541 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,840 I'm praying we wrap it up real quick. 542 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,920 - Oh God, I hope so. 543 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:31,560 So we will know the prop 1, 3, 9 results like that night in Arizona and maybe a lot of 544 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,920 local races wherever everybody lives. 545 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,640 But yeah, I want to know everybody's bets on when the presidential election call is called. 546 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,160 And I think November 7th by noon, that's what I'm, I hope it's earlier, but that's what 547 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,160 I'm betting. 548 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,160 - Yeah. 549 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:52,840 - Like us, you are no doubt dealing with fear, anger, dread, anxiety and maybe even worse. 550 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,840 It's quite overwhelming. 551 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Buffy would agree. 552 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,640 And that's why it made seem a little odd that we're going to talk about politics and pop 553 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,640 culture. 554 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:05,200 But where better to retreat to the land of Make Believe in movies and on TV? 555 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,720 Big world changing problems can be resolved and as little as 46 minutes. 556 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:19,720 So I wanted to talk about, you know, what is your favorite pop culture, political TV show? 557 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,840 Just kind of out of the gate. 558 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,480 Last week tonight, which on Oliver. 559 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,480 - Okay. 560 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,480 - Yeah. 561 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:30,360 We watch that almost every week, unless I'm just too anxious because even though he's hilarious, 562 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:35,040 sometimes he, I watch it and I'm like, I can't, I can't. 563 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,840 Because it's all real stuff that he's dealing with and talking about, but in a funny way. 564 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,760 He's really educational to us. 565 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:46,600 I love his little segments where he really dives deep into one specific topic. 566 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:52,160 And it's more like, okay, not just like the person, but the systematic problems that 567 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:57,200 come from, like today we're talking about prison reform or like insurance and like, it's 568 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,200 really interesting. 569 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,600 I've also been a fan of the Daily Show for years through. 570 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:01,920 Well, he came from the Daily Show. 571 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:02,920 Yeah, exactly. 572 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,120 So like original John Stewart run and then I really love Trevor Noah. 573 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:08,960 Now, John Stewart's back just when we need him. 574 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:09,960 Yeah. 575 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:16,120 So those are my favorite like, nonfiction, I guess, political shows, but then I loved House 576 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:20,080 of Cards and Parks and Rec, which I know we'll talk about later. 577 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:26,280 Yeah, I would say I was kind of going through and thinking of all of my political TV shows. 578 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:31,760 And I would say that they're very conspiratorial in nature, go figure. 579 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:32,760 Yeah. 580 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,200 But you know, I really loved House of Cards. 581 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,200 I think, you know, we don't love Kevin Spacey. 582 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,720 We can separate the art from the artist. 583 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,400 Why did you have to go and blow it like that? 584 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,400 We loved that. 585 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:49,160 I mean, I think it's, it's kind of like he was already always a bad person, which is why 586 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,360 I think he played the Frank Underwood. 587 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:55,080 Yeah, I almost said Underwood. 588 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,080 Frank Underwood from the Underworld. 589 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,080 Yeah, I didn't. 590 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,080 It's not far off. 591 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,560 But Frank Underwood was just such a good character. 592 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:04,680 He was such a good character. 593 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:10,680 And I think he came in a time where, you know, America was really starting to have a 594 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,000 disdain for political figures. 595 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,920 I mean, I think it's only gotten worse since the show came out. 596 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,920 I think there's like this interesting mix right now with people having a disdain for political 597 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,920 figures or absolutely worshiping them and idolizing them. 598 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:31,040 Like, I mean, the amount of idolization that goes on around Donald Trump is insane because 599 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,200 this man doesn't give two shits about any of you. 600 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:41,200 And people are like getting tattoos and flags and hats and making their Trumpism their entire 601 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,200 personality, right? 602 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,200 Yes. 603 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,160 And I mean, even you could say that for the last two. 604 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,400 Like I like Bernie Sanders as much as the next person. 605 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,400 Yeah, Bernie. 606 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,440 Bernie was going to like just be the, be all in doll. 607 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,680 And I don't know, I just, I can't idolize any politician like that. 608 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,680 Yeah. 609 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:06,680 And, you know, I think with House of Cards, it really embodies this secret CD like everything 610 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,080 is an illusion. 611 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,080 Yeah. 612 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,360 Start of TV. 613 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:19,840 I was looking at the Rolling Stones' best 20 political movies and TV shows. 614 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:25,560 And what was really interesting going through this list of what's known is like the best political 615 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:31,080 movies of all time is they were really coming out before the 2000s. 616 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,080 They were old. 617 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,600 I haven't seen many of them. 618 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,600 Yeah. 619 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:39,880 And they were representations of, you know, strong political figures that you could trust. 620 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:46,080 And I thought it was such an interesting, you know, dichotomy of how far we've come where 621 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,200 you know, like our popular ones are going to be like House of Cards. 622 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,960 I really like to get homeland homeland homeland homeland homeland homeland homeland homeland. 623 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,720 That's where we're at at a jump. 624 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,280 I really liked homeland as well, which is, you know, very conspiratorial. 625 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,560 I never forget that before. 626 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,560 Oh my gosh. 627 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,720 Everybody gets so good. 628 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,720 So good. 629 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:15,120 So homeland is about the CIA and it's about this imperfect CIA agent. 630 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:19,040 And she is with Claire Danes plays her. 631 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,040 Oh, okay. 632 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,040 What's his name? 633 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,520 I can't remember his name. 634 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,200 Damian Lewis isn't it? 635 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,040 And basically he is like a prisoner of war who comes back. 636 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,040 Oh, okay. 637 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,840 And he's been turned into like a jihad. 638 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,760 And but they don't know it. 639 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:39,480 And he starts to get put up this like political ladder into becoming like a senator and all 640 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,480 the stuff. 641 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,960 And he's like infiltrating the whole time. 642 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,960 Yeah. 643 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,960 And Claire Danes is like the only one who's been in the CIA. 644 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,640 And who's convinced that he's been turned. 645 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,440 And so it's like the story, but she's also bipolar. 646 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,080 And so she makes like these really dumb decisions. 647 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,720 And not that big bipolar has he made dumb decisions. 648 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,920 But she is trying to hide her mental illness and like you can't really do that. 649 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,920 And sure. 650 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,760 And so when you say Claire Danes, like now I can picture her like on a poster or something 651 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:07,760 with it. 652 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:08,760 Yes, where she has like that. 653 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,280 Well, I wrapped around her. 654 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,280 Exactly. 655 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,280 Maybe I'll give it a whirl. 656 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,280 That's really an interesting thing. 657 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,280 I think it's like a really good thing to do. 658 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,040 I think it's like a really good thing to do. 659 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,040 I think it's like a really good thing to do. 660 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,040 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 661 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,040 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 662 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,040 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 663 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,040 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 664 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,040 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 665 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,040 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 666 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,040 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 667 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,040 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 668 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,040 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 669 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,040 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 670 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,040 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 671 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:50,640 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 672 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,640 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 673 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,640 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 674 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,640 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 675 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,640 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 676 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:57,640 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 677 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,640 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 678 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,640 And I think it's like a really good thing to do. 679 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:07,720 is a good representation of our hopefulness back in the 2000s of our belief in political figures. 680 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,120 Yeah. They can do right. They can be in here for honor and trust and stuff. That's a really 681 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:17,080 good point. Now, this said, everything is like the city underbelly of what really goes on. 682 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,240 I also like to show I didn't watch the whole thing because it kind of fell off, but it was called 683 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:29,320 designated survivor with a cat the same guy from 24. He for someone. There it is. Also, I loved 24, 684 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:35,320 but it was very problem. Oh my god. Yeah. But it's like the whole president's cabinet, 685 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:40,600 like whenever there's a state of the union, everybody goes, but one person stays behind in case there's 686 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,160 an attack. Yes. And there's an attack and it's all wiped out. So he goes from being like this 687 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,400 low level, lower level like government employed to being the president in like one night. 688 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,720 I've watched that with my dad actually. Yeah. It was really in my face. Yeah. And it's like, 689 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:59,560 oh, he's so good. And like, he's imperfect, but like he does the right thing. He's just a dad. He has a 690 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,680 strong moral compass. Yeah. I think I should get back on that. House of cards is the opposite where he's 691 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:11,560 got that low moral compass. Yeah. I tried to get my dad to watch House of cards. He's not listening. 692 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,240 I love you, dad. He's him and his wife said they couldn't watch it because there is too much 693 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:25,880 oral sex. And like, so that tells me what you guys aren't doing. It's probably good. It's pretty good. 694 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:31,320 60s who cares if there's some kind of lingus. Yeah. Well, Jesus, Jesus cares. 695 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:38,120 They're gentle. Yeah. Well, I think it's a little too close for home to them to look into 696 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:44,120 or politicians. Yeah. One of the interesting things that we were reading through this rolling 697 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:50,040 stone's list and I'll just kind of read the 10, you know, they're from 10 to 9. So 10 is a face in the 698 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:57,240 crowd. It came out in 1957. We had this movie called on number nine called Bob Roberts, which is 699 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,440 1992. I want to watch that now that you send me the trailer for it. It looks fast. And yeah, so I was 700 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:08,200 actually hoping to watch the movie before this episode, but you actually cannot find it anywhere 701 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:14,440 in a streaming in the United States. We could find it if we went to like a Zeea Records or something. 702 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:20,600 Oh, on DVD or something. Yeah. And like we'd have to find a DVD player. Good will. Yeah. 703 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:26,840 I own a VHS player. Oh my god. A VCR. Oh wow. Well, because I wanted to show Andrew my whole 704 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:37,560 crew. I am serving Croad as energy. Yeah. We can't do it. I do like no. I do like no. I do like no. 705 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:47,080 That's that's amazing. Yeah. But so this film is very known as the predictor of Donald Trump. And so 706 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:53,240 if you just go on YouTube and look at Bob Roberts trailer, it was insane. He called it personality. 707 00:26:53,240 --> 00:27:00,520 Yeah. Yeah. The only thing that Donald Trump does not mirror this person on is attractiveness. 708 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:06,680 Well, that yeah, that and he's not like a singer. Yeah. And that's the only thing. But it is really 709 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:16,120 this guy who comes in. He's a like a nepo baby rich person who comes in like a country music singer. 710 00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:22,280 Yeah. Yeah. And just like in the trailer, it really lays out like everything. I was watching a clip 711 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:27,560 from it and like he gets like almost assassinated. And I was like, wow. This is even more. No. 712 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,600 This is even more spot on. Did you catch the young Jack Black? I didn't actually until you said it. 713 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:38,600 Yeah. And he likes familiar. Yeah. I love Bob Roberts or something like. But yeah, it was really, 714 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:45,160 really crazy to see. So there were some movies that were starting to make its way into the zeitgeist 715 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:54,200 that were making fun of politicians. It's really calling attention to the craziness of politics 716 00:27:54,200 --> 00:28:00,680 with humor. And I think one of the best movies that I have seen that I really, really like that 717 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:07,640 is looking backwards is the movie dick. And you would have seen it before, right? I've seen that movie. 718 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:17,000 So I was on my computer and I was trying to see where I could stream dick again. And whenever I 719 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:22,760 started to go type into my work computer dick into the search bar. And I just like looked and 720 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,920 before I hit enter, I was like, that's a personal search. Like dick movie. Yeah. Wait, still not better. 721 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:35,400 And so if you've never seen dick, it's with tears to and Michelle William. I've seen that I can picture 722 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:42,920 the cover in my head no from blockbuster. Yes. Yes, right. And this is a movie that is kind of made 723 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:49,560 for teenagers like it's silly. It's goofy. But I think it had a really profound effect on the adult 724 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:56,120 who lived through the Nixon administration. Yeah. And kind of saw all that. I was watching it. And 725 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,000 I was just thinking like, man, what we wouldn't do for Nixon now. Oh my god. You know, and now that I 726 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,960 think about it, I think that maybe I we weren't alive during the Nixon administration. But that was 727 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:12,120 probably the beginning of like the downfall of American politics. And then you get like Ronald Reagan 728 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,640 in my opinion. That's the entrance of like Christian nationalism into the zeitgeist and like that 729 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:24,600 mix of religion with politics. But yeah, I mean, this movie is stacked with like I mentioned Kirsten 730 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:30,760 Dunn, special Williams. We have Dan Hadea, Will Ferrell and just so many famous. That's a given 731 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:39,560 the world in it. And it is basically instead of, you know, the mysterious deep throat Kirsten Dunn's 732 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:46,600 and Michelle Williams are 15 year old girls and they are deep throat in the movie. And it is so funny. 733 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:52,440 Oh my god. It's hilarious. You know, of course, there is a lot of slide dick jokes with a lot of 734 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:58,760 slide dick jokes. Yeah. When I first started going to ASU, Jessica and I were in journalism and we 735 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:04,680 got putting a bunch of like 18 year olds in a room and trying to teach them about deep throat 736 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:10,040 the entire time. We were just like, he he he like the entire room and the professor had to get up 737 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:15,160 there and be like, stop laughing at deep throat. It's not that funny, which of course was the most 738 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:21,640 fucking hilarious thing we never heard. Because it is funny. He's like your your dad and your stepmom. 739 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,640 Like it's not getting deep 30. Orals. 740 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,960 Jeep throat isn't funny. And it's too much oral sex. 741 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:35,720 You can never have to see my Jorls X. Sorry. Yes. And just to kind of finish off these top 10 political 742 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,280 movies. Oh, I want to talk about, I don't know what number this is in the list. So I want to talk 743 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:46,120 about idiocracy. Oh, yes. Let's keep going. So we have Lincoln, which is obviously about Abraham Lincoln. 744 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:52,600 And then number seven, we have idiocracy. And I want to kind of take you back to 1999. 745 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,000 Oh, let me just I mean, how old was I? I was 10 years old. 746 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:03,400 Or I guess yes. Did you see it when it first came out? Or when did you first watch the movie? 747 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:09,560 What did you think when you first saw it? I see it as a 2006 movie. So it looks like the concept 748 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:15,560 kind of went back. It felt like the early 2000s, but it wasn't released until 2006. Oh, 749 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:22,760 interesting. Yeah. Exactly. So it was 1999. Yeah. So the film is released. So I watched it in high 750 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:28,920 school. Okay. And at the time I thought no one could ever be this stupid. Yes. I remember watching 751 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:34,200 this and be like, what a dumb movie. This could never happen. Exactly. And so now it's like cold 752 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:41,960 following because it really is where we are today. It's got a lecture. Yes. Yes. So idiocracy 753 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:49,000 stars Luke Wilson, my brood off, Dax Shepherd, Terry Cruz, just in long, I mean, another hilarious 754 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:57,080 cast. So Luke Wilson plays, I don't know, a low level. Just a suit. He just a guy who travels to the 755 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:04,040 future. Yes. He gets the hibernates or like gets cryo friends. Yeah. And wakes up and he's the smartest 756 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:10,280 person alive. Yeah. And back in his time, he was just a dude. Yeah. It was like not very smart. But 757 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:15,640 in the future, he becomes, you know, the smartest person ever. And really just using critical 758 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:22,600 thinking skills. Yes. But everybody has lost that ability. Yes. Which is so funny to see a movie 759 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:29,080 that was either conceived in 1999 and released in 2006. Who could know? There's no way to know. 760 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:35,240 Not the Rolling Stones. Apparently. But yes. And the president is Terry Cruz. And he is just 761 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:41,080 a personality. He's just this bombastic personality. He's a wrestler. He's a professional wrestler. 762 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:47,480 He like, he doesn't really have any plans or policy. But he's got a big personality. So, yep. 763 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:54,120 He gets elected president. Yeah. And when I want to say, you know, when we were kind of approaching 764 00:32:54,120 --> 00:33:01,320 to 2017 and it became really popular to be like, we are literally living in idiocracy. Yeah. And it 765 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:09,080 is crazy to go back and watch to be like 10, 15 years later. Now it feels like this is our reality. 766 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:17,160 It really does. Like God, I mean, when I just think about how we accepted a reality TV star to be our 767 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:24,760 president. Yeah. Well, that's, that's what's interesting. You know, obviously the apprentice has come 768 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:32,120 out as a reality show. And then recently we have had drama with the movie The Apprentice 769 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:38,280 Sebastian. So, okay, I forgot that this was a thing. Yes. But I know Sebastian Stan is playing Trump, 770 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:44,920 which is crazy because Sebastian Stan is a very good looking person. Yes. I digress. They make them look 771 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,920 pretty, pretty dang close to orange. Yeah. Well, he wasn't so orange back then. Okay. It's 772 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:58,040 this is yeah. So the movie The Apprentice with Sebastian Stan as a young Donald Trump came out 773 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:04,200 and has really been mirrored in controversy ever since they released it at Cannes. And so the film 774 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,880 already came out. Yes. So you can go see it now in theaters. I don't know if I want to. Yeah. Yeah. 775 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:15,480 And so the film explores Donald Trump's early life and his early years in real estate under the 776 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:23,000 mentorship of Roy Cone. So it really did run into a lot of struggles. So when it first came out at 777 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:28,760 Cannes, Donald Trump and his team really threatened a lot of the distributors. Okay. 778 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:35,400 So it doesn't paint him at a very pretty light. It doesn't paint him in a great light in his opinion. 779 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,880 But then there are also critics who say it was too sympathetic and that they don't 780 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,640 villainize him enough, which I think is just kind of a good representation of where we're at in 781 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:51,160 the world. Like there's no ability to be in the middle and just look at someone, how they arrive 782 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:56,360 where they are. I think, you know, you can look at Donald Trump and say like he's been evil from 783 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,480 the beginning, but I think a lot of it is the human experience and you can go through that and 784 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,960 look at that. Like he's a shit person. He's a terrible person. I mean, he's been like having, 785 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,840 I mean, even when he was just a property manager or whatever, he had like racist policies for that. 786 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:16,040 He's just a bad self-expression. And I think it kind of goes to the human experience of wanting to 787 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:25,240 understand like a serial killer. I just agree with no notes. But you know, you want to understand 788 00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:29,640 and you want to explore how someone got there. But do we need to give them like a platform 789 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:35,720 in a movie about themselves? Especially well, maybe not like, does it have to come out right now? 790 00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:40,440 When we're still in the mud with this guy where he might be the fucking president again. 791 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:46,520 So I mean, maybe in 10 years from now, once he's long gone. 792 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,880 So yeah, I would disagree on that note though, because I don't think it shows I'm going to 793 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:59,320 goodbye it at all. But I also don't think it's like an overly cited opinion. So maybe it's just very 794 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,240 neutral. I mean, not neutral because he's a bad person. Yeah, I mean, it's going to show 795 00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:09,000 through. So, you know, kind of going through the issues. So Trump labeled the film as pure fiction 796 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,760 and threatened legal action against its creators. This led to distributors not wanting to pick up 797 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,400 the film, which, you know, kind of given what's going on with the Washington Post right now. 798 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:26,680 Yeah. With Jeff Bezos, you know, it's a very interesting argument that we have. And so it was well 799 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,880 received at cons. A lot of people have said like, do should we release this in an election year? 800 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:37,160 Ultimately, that is why Donald Trump wanted to stop it, so that I didn't come out. It wasn't his 801 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,800 October surprise. But it's been really interesting. Not that the October surprise worked out. 802 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:47,880 Yeah. Favorite last time. Yeah. And so, you know, I think it's been really interesting to watch 803 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:53,480 the press of this movie. Yeah. And, you know, Sebastian Stan has been seen on like the red carpet of 804 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:59,160 like, please just go see the movie in four or a judge opinion. Yeah. Which is crazy. 805 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:06,040 It's like we're so divided on, you know, should this even come out where it's already been. 806 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:12,120 Yeah. I think that art should always be, you know, presented in New Austin, 807 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:18,200 yeah, thought through and maybe I'll give it a try once I'm further removed from the election. 808 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:24,840 Like right now, I am just we're all so immersed in it. I had to watch stop watching handmaid's tale 809 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:31,240 like years ago because it just got so like close to home and yeah, anxiety inducing. I would agree 810 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:35,560 with that. And then I found out she was a Scientologist. I know. And I don't feel that. 811 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:43,240 But maybe maybe in a couple years, I'll give it a whirl. Yeah. Exactly. It's a PTSD. And so, I know I'm 812 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:49,640 taking like 17 years to go through this list, but six was wagged the dog in 1997. It has De Niro 813 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:55,640 and Justin Hoffman for number five. This where you start to see a lot of these movies are very, 814 00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:03,160 very old. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just rattles. Yeah. So five. Mr Smith goes to Washington. That's a 1939 815 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:11,640 movie. We have the candidate in 1972. We have for a third Dr. Strangelove or how I learned how to stop 816 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:20,520 bringing and love the bomb 1964 for number two in the loop 2009. And then for number one, which none of 817 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:28,200 you will be surprised by this is all the president's band of 1976. Probably very good movies. Yes. 818 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:34,280 I have seen all the president's band. I think it's a great movie. Yeah. It's kind of what they spoof 819 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:40,920 Dick off of. Oh gosh. It's so it's the serious. Yeah. So it's the serious. Sometimes you need a 820 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:49,160 serious Dick and a funny. Yeah. And so, you know, I think that it has just been such an interesting 821 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,520 metamorphosis that we've gone through just through our lives, both in the media that gets created 822 00:38:54,520 --> 00:39:00,360 as well as the way that politics has changed. Yeah. Let's take a quick break. And then I want to talk 823 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:12,440 about just politics as itself as entertainment. We've mentioned that election years, I mean, 824 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,560 and I think this will probably be an overwhelming sentiment can be anxiety inducing and make you 825 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:23,720 worried, especially if things are a tight race, right? And when you feel like so much is on the line, 826 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:31,400 I feel like in recent years, politics has almost become itself entertainment. So I've heard some 827 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:37,800 people say that they are voting for Donald Trump because he's quote, funny or entertaining, right? 828 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:43,560 Which I think is I'm not racist. I just think he's funny. Literally. I think these are not qualities 829 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,760 that I need in the president. I want somebody who's going to be frankly boring and steady. I don't 830 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:54,760 think to be entertaining. And I don't know. I think and then people are kind of creating 831 00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:01,160 entertainment out of when Trump was in office. Oh, what's he going to do next? What's his next tweet 832 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:06,920 going to be, right? And I mean, what do you think about just kind of like, I've mentioned 833 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:14,920 cult of personality like people who watch politics as entertainment? I mean, on the more boring side, 834 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:21,720 there's people who just enjoy watching C-SPAN. Yeah. Could be me. There's people who just enjoy listening 835 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:31,960 to political talk radio and find it as entertainment. So yeah, I would probably say in 2016 to 2020, 836 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:38,520 I was much more involved in watching the news, staying like watching it every day, making sure that 837 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:46,680 I was following things on a daily basis. And I think that it is very easy to get sucked into it. Like 838 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:53,080 yeah, a lot of people say the day that 24/7 or 24 hour news cycles were created was the day that, 839 00:40:53,080 --> 00:41:00,120 you know, journalism died, democracy died. Yeah. Because ultimately, it really is advantageous for 840 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:06,120 these news networks to make you angry. Absolutely. I guess not even make you angry, but keep you hooked. 841 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:11,640 That's how they make their money. They have advertising dollars. Unfortunately, the human experience 842 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:18,760 does not stay around for good stories. What we are incentivized to do is get angry, to watch hate 843 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:25,960 watch things, to get upset. Yeah. And that keeps us tuned to get riled up and tuned in. Exactly. And so, 844 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:31,640 you know, I can look at my own personal like mental health in the times where I was watching the 845 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:37,640 news every day. And I was, you know, waking up and listening to the daily every single day. And it 846 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:44,920 just became this really negative cycle. And, you know, I'll look at my brother who is like a libertarian. 847 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:51,320 And he would wake up every single day and, you know, watch Fox News. And he would watch like other 848 00:41:51,320 --> 00:42:00,440 channels as well. And we lived together at this time in 2020. And it was really insidious to watch like 849 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:07,000 how that changed him, how that changed me, how that, you know, really went into it. And so, you know, 850 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:12,680 I think it's a very human thing to get sucked into that like even just scrolling through 851 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:20,840 TikTok right now. Like I have to be very intentional about like not watching these recaps or these 852 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:28,280 incredibly like disturbing things. Yeah. I totally agree. And also once you get so consumed with 853 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:35,640 these things, you stop paying attention to the really important things. So exactly. So when Trump says 854 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:42,680 something that's actually really problematic and scary, like actually scary, like yeah, 855 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:52,040 like he's he's threatening to like just deploy troops to like, I didn't exactly. And then when he 856 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:58,040 says stuff like that, it gets buried with all the little silly shit he did. Like, oh, we went to 857 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:04,040 McDonald's and serve fries. How that's so stupid. Exactly. He did his little stupid Trump dance, 858 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:10,920 right? So we get so desensitized because like you said, it's 24/7 that it gets buried. And then you 859 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:16,280 you forget there. It's easy to forget. Okay. Yeah. This man has said some really terrible racist 860 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:22,120 things against black Americans against Latinos against like gay people and in Puerto Ricans, 861 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:31,240 Haitians like because it's so bogged down and buried with just yeah. So I to me, it's like I listen to 862 00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:37,640 the news every day. Well, I get ready. My Google just played like the little recap. Yeah. Which is all I 863 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:44,520 need. Just give me like, you know, here's your headlines for the day. Perfect. I know what I found that 864 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:53,560 if I read it, it's much less jar like yeah, emotionally. Yeah. I can just, you know, have my one sense 865 00:43:53,560 --> 00:44:00,520 really activated there. And then I can internalize and feel the information. But yeah, I think it's just 866 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:09,880 and you know, I always ask myself like, I'd look back to the world before 2016. And ask myself like, 867 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:18,600 okay, is that attitude of making fun of Trump almost like early on in that election like with the 868 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:24,280 news and all that like did that almost create him? I thought that too. Like if you look back up those 869 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:30,280 SNL sketches that did not age well. I remember one where it was Hillary and Trump. And I mean, to be fair, 870 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:36,920 SNL has been doing this for years. Yes. I mean, the like, Al Gore sketches from back in the day are 871 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:44,200 hilarious. Yes. The Sarah Palin. Yes. And Will Farrell is George W. Bush hilarious. So good. So good. 872 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,640 Now watch the strap. It's so funny. There was some sketch. I remember with Trump and Hillary 873 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:56,600 debating and the commentators in the sketch were like, we might as well just say it. President Clinton, 874 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:01,560 what do you think about it? Right. And now I think back on that and I get like itching. Like, oh my god, 875 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:07,400 they chinkest us. I don't know. I think part of it was we didn't think that he had a chance at hell. 876 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,760 Right. We give him so much attention. We give him so much attention to mock him. To mock him. And so 877 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:17,480 that's what people started thinking, oh, this guy's funny. I remember people saying that, oh, he's 878 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:23,320 funny. Oh, he's a businessman. What's the works that could happen? And turns out it's not funny. 879 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:28,600 I don't think any of that was ever fucking funny. But like, I mean, whatever humor is subjective, 880 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:34,520 I suppose. But we gave him a lot of platforms. And I know that like Jimmy Fallon, they, you know, 881 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:40,040 he was on that show and he rubbed Trump's hair and kind of humanized him, right? And then they let 882 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:45,400 Hillary host SNL. So Trump came and hosted SNL and did sketches with them. And there are a few 883 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,320 cast members who were like, no, I'm not going to be on this episode of this guy is here. And I respect 884 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:57,080 that so much. Right. But gave him equal platforms as Hillary Clinton. And he emerged as the guy with 885 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:02,040 the great personality. Maybe he's a little rep around the edges, but he's funny. And he says what he 886 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:08,360 means, which he does. And he's a lying ass. But whereas Hillary Clinton was kind of the standard 887 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,480 cookie cutter politician or, you know, in a more misogynistic way, they were kind of putting her 888 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:20,520 forces like the shrill, no fun woman. Well, that's how men of a certain age see women. Exactly. 889 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:28,600 And now it's the total opposite. Kamala laughs too much. I'm sorry. So either we laugh too much or 890 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:34,120 we're too shrill. Which one's it going to be by? The only acceptable version is a woman who's quiet. 891 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:41,640 They're ultimately, you know. And yeah, I mean, I think it is such an interesting world that we live 892 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:47,640 in now where we are not just seeing it on the news, but we're also seeing it in the algorithms. 893 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:55,160 And there is proof that everything we see on social media is intentionally created or not created, 894 00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:01,320 but Sean get it to you to further deviate us. Oh, absolutely. And there are studies. It's not just 895 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:06,760 from the news, but also on social media where, you know, you're starting to exist in a vacuum. 896 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:13,000 And I do think that that is such a scary world that we live in. And I see it personally just on 897 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:18,280 my algorithms or my social media where I go, oh, how could anybody ever think this way? And then 898 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:25,640 I'm like, oh, no, I need to be intentional about consuming what is this other side seeing? Exactly. 899 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,760 So that you can just kind of understand, like I think one of the things that politics has done to 900 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:37,000 us is intentionally divide us 100% and it's getting worse and worse. That's such a good point. Like, 901 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:44,120 I've said that to my husband before, like, I can't comprehend how anybody would think XYZ. And he goes, 902 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,960 well, they think that about you too. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And that's true. 903 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:55,080 Yeah. And, you know, like I've lived through that time with my brother in 2020. And, you know, him and I 904 00:47:55,080 --> 00:48:00,120 went to all the same schools. We had the same upbringing. Obviously, he was a man or the woman, 905 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:07,720 but we went to the same college, the same degree. And, you know, I really wanted to like take a step back 906 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:13,880 and be like, how does he think this way? And, you know, we look at, there's always a stroke about 907 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:22,760 the male loneliness epidemic, but they are being served like these crazy, like, misogynistic views, 908 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,720 as well as like this looks-maxing thing and like everything in your life will be better. 909 00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:32,280 Alpha male. Everything in your life will be better if you have a six pack and you just can't believe in 910 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:38,120 these ideals and go back to church. You are better than women. You need to assert your dominance over 911 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:44,760 them and get a six pack and like get her back in the kitchen. Yeah. And it's not the systematic 912 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:50,280 things that have been created by government and by this division. It's just we, you know, 913 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:56,600 gave women too much responsibility or we got to liberal and Donald Trump's campaign and like, 914 00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:03,560 agenda absolutely. Like, that's what they stand for. Right. Yes. Like, and so then when you see like 915 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:09,000 a politician on television who's getting these platforms, who is also preaching these things, 916 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,880 and maybe some of these words don't come straight from his mouth, but like they're from his cabinet too, 917 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:18,280 from the comedians he lets on stage with them. That was disgusting. And then- 918 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:23,080 Like him in the roast of Tom Brady, that was like, oh my god, we had faith in you. And then, you know, 919 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,160 the grabber by the pussy tape came out and we all thought that was going to be the end, but it 920 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:33,560 absolutely wasn't. And all it did was in bold in this gigachad personality even more of, you know what, 921 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:39,000 yeah, grabber by the pussy man. Yeah. It's almost like crazy to think back on like everything like 922 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:47,400 the textbook for just 2016 to this time. Oh my god. When people, when kids, like, look, 923 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,120 it'll learn about that someday they're going to be like, what were you guys thinking? What happened? 924 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,040 Yeah. No, it is really crazy. At least the boy students, well, the girls won't be allowed to 925 00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:01,960 read anymore. Yeah. No, we're not manifesting that. We are sending really good love. Obviously, 926 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:07,400 this episode is being recorded before the election results. So we are living in a world where, 927 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:13,240 we know, hopefully we get we have rights. Everybody lives. Let us make this podcast moving forward. 928 00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:19,160 This might be the last episode of the party. Yeah. When it's speaking freely. No, no, no, no. 929 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,640 Yeah, stop it. Stop it. Why are you being too negative? We don't love that. 930 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:29,320 And that's what I mean, though, is like I had and I don't think you could do this right now because 931 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:34,840 of what you're working on and who you're talking to every day. But like I had to stop watching the 932 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:41,160 news every day and I had to like read it and change my algorithm because it was such a negative 933 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,800 feedback loop. And you know, I tried to do it more with my social media, right? Because like you 934 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:52,440 said, I work in politics. And so all day, all I'm thinking about is the election. All day, it's just, 935 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:58,040 it's there and just like and it shouldn't be that way. So that is so scary that that's the world we 936 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,280 live in. Yeah. I mean, it sucks. It sucks. It sucks you in when you're in that job, right? Like when 937 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,840 you're going to an event that's probably all you can think about for days. Yeah. So my algorithm, 938 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:13,880 right? It's a lot of dogs. Yes. And a lot of good Halloween costumes and Agatha all along, 939 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:20,200 which is amazing. Yeah. I know. I've been seeing a lot of like fan. It's incredible. I'm like, 940 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,280 do I watch it? You should absolutely watch it. I have to watch Juan David. No, you don't. I'll 941 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:30,040 fill you in. Okay. Literally. You don't. Cool. It's very queer and very witchy. Yes. I think she's 942 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:35,560 got a plaque for being the first woman in the Marvel Universe to show her butt. Yeah. I look good, 943 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:41,480 but it's good. It's a good bum. Good bum. Good bum. Squirrel. Yep. I have to change the subject. 944 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,520 You know, but all of my all of my scrolling right now is I try to keep it very light. Yeah. 945 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:51,320 Because I need that little break or I'll play little games on my phone and turn off the brain for 946 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:57,400 a little bit or watch scary movies. Anything to just, you know, we need to take care of ourselves in 947 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:03,880 this time, I think. Yeah. And Sean and I obviously really believe in the Democratic Party right now 948 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:10,280 is the best solution for women, but I hope, you know, if you aren't undecided voter, even a Republican 949 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:17,080 who's listening to this blue and it's carried away by now. But you love that you know that we believe 950 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:23,320 that we are so much closer than what separates us. Yeah. And ultimately, I think that, you know, 951 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:29,400 we exist in a world right now that is intentionally trying to divide us. And I think just going back to 952 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:36,360 remembering we're all struggling. The, yep. The problems that are being talked about in politics 953 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:43,960 are really only applying to the upper elite or 1% of people in we're all struggling. You never 954 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,120 know what the person next to you is struggling with or what they're experiencing or what their life 955 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,600 experience is what they're actually what got them to this level. What their algorithm shows them. 956 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,640 You never know what the person next to you is. Yeah. Looks like it's a river. I mean, we both 957 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,880 have friends, friends who are Republicans. And like you said, we have a lot in common and we just 958 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:07,800 we try to focus on that and like, you know, just live life the best you can and be a decent person. 959 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:13,560 There you go. And rewatch parks and rec because that's the government at its post medical. 960 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,920 And if you've never seen it, watch The Manchurian Candidate. Because that's my, I've never seen that. 961 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:26,840 I know. I can't believe you'd never seen it. It's Denzel. It's so good. It's so good. It's, I, I can't even 962 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:32,280 begin to explain. It's so conspiratorial. But it's, oh my god. It's really, really good. Okay, so I'm only 963 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:39,160 watching anything scary up until Thursday, which is for future listeners. It's Halloween. It's going 964 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,880 to be Halloween in two days for us on this side. So only scary movies, but then after that, maybe I'll 965 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:49,800 maybe I'll get some political drama. It's a good, like, political thriller. Yeah. And psychological 966 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:55,800 thriller. So it's, I love to be psychologically thrilled. I put it in the, like, kind of like Jacob's 967 00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:07,320 Ladder. You gotta watch it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Jacob's Ladder is known as one of the best psychological 968 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:14,120 horrors of all time. Yeah. Like, I know Colin's up to put that. Yeah. It's really, really good. It's 969 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:20,520 a ladder. Jacob's Ladder. Do you know what that is? It's like the twist. It's that thing you used to 970 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:26,760 do when you were a kid. Yeah. With the string. Like, I'm saying this like, yeah, like kind of like that. 971 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:32,840 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So it's like, it's a what? It's a what? Yeah. I was straight. Yeah. What you should 972 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,400 play with strings when I was a youth. I had to find the strings. Oh, yeah. I'm the strings in 973 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:45,160 rocks and sticks. I'm only 35. I'm suffering. Yeah. Sorry, guys. Everybody like a older than me right now is like, 974 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:51,640 shut up. Yeah. Yeah. So they're like, oh, I'd go, but I'd give anything to go back to them. And, 975 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:59,560 and you know, so my, my pop is Manchurian Candidate. Your pop is Agatha All Along. I love it. It's incredible. 976 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:07,000 It's on Disney+. Tomorrow is October 30th for us. And it's gonna have the last two episodes. But 977 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,520 at that point, you can just stream the entire thing on Disney+ and highly recommend it. The Puses. 978 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:17,640 Yes. Love that. Now, it's time to wrap up this campaign. But before we go, let's tell your 979 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:22,840 friends how they can find this on social media. You can buy me, Shauna Trinidad, on Instagram and not 980 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:33,400 on TikTok until Olivia helps me get back at @ShaunaTrinidad S-H-A-U-N-A-T-R-I-D-A-D. And you can find me 981 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:50,440 Olivia on Instagram @livimariez L-I-V-I-M-A-R-I-E-Z. You can find me on TikTok @livyolife420 L-I-V-Y-O-L-I-F-E-420. 982 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:55,480 It's ballet. I can't. It's great. I can't spell. I can spell. 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