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Hello and welcome to Development Pergatory!

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This is the podcast all about the movies that were never made, the scripts that were

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never written, and the ideas that never have made it to the page.

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My name is Daniel Kawka.

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And I'm Lexcee Riley.

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Welcome back to Part 2 of Plastic Man.

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If you have not listened to Part 1, highly recommended you so we go through the history

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of Plastic Man throughout his publication history where he came from and into his introduction

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into DC Comics.

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And we just started the movie that they were supposed to make, supposedly in 1995, written

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by the Wichowski's.

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We see the character named for the movie Daniel O'Brien.

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He has just gotten his powers against his will and we're going to see how that all plays

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out in Part 2.

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Matrix Boo-Galoo.

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Where are you coming from?

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Why are you in my edit bay?

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I live here now.

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Stop!

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They get Nebel Men to help clean up the lab after their experiment.

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Nebel Men arrives in a raincoat in his pajamas because they did this in the middle of the night.

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He sees the mess that's caused by the explosion and he faints.

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When Nebel Men wakes up, he tells them that he needs the nano bot to stabilize the meltdown.

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But it turns out it's gone.

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It's inside of Daniel.

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So without the nano bot, the waste is going to expel from the explosion and will only grow.

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They can't do anything to contain it, but the best way that they can do so is by laying

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down liquid nitrogen just to slow it down.

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But it's going to continue to expand and basically anything that it touches will be pulmurized,

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meaning that it's going to also be like liquid and jelly-like.

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I'm telling you, who framed Brad Jorabbat?

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This could have been half animated.

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Poppy asks Sims if he found Daniel, but he hasn't.

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And they're looking through as close to see if he has anything in there as for any clues.

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And they find the key card to the admiral hotel.

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I thought they were going to make an engagement ring.

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No.

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Daniel arrives back to the room, still woozy, from what had been done to him.

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He's a little woozy here.

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He's still excreting waste.

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And this time he coughs it out the next morning.

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Daniel wakes up realizing that he can't breathe.

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So he's actually twisted his head around so many times that it causes him to close his

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airway.

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What?

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Yeah.

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He gets up, he corrects himself, he spins his head back to put a brick in order.

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Did you ever see that?

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I've ever show you death becomes her.

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I mean, I've seen death becomes her.

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We may have seen it together.

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But there's that moment where was that Meryl Streep is throwing down the stairs and

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like heard next snaps and twist around.

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Yeah, kind of like that.

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Death becomes her in 1992.

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So we're talking about CGI and that kind of thing.

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Oh yeah.

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Because that wasn't all prosthetic.

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So it would have looked like that.

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Although, because it's kind of like a bow tie situation where it's kind of like pinched

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at the neck, twisted around like so.

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Suddenly the door burst open and it's sim and doby.

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They try to capture Daniel, but he's bouncing around on the floor in the wall.

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So at the time of the turn you get him, Daniel grabs the window sill as the goons they grab

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his legs.

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They stretch them out as they attempt to take him.

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They let go of Daniel and he slingshots out of the window and he hits the ground.

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The people around him scream thinking that they saw someone die, but Daniel gets up and

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he's fine.

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Daniel looks up to see that his hands are still hanging from the window.

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Nine stories up, so it's like big, little, little, little hand.

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He lets go and his arms just kind of flop down to the ground and then eventually

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like retract back in Daniel.

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Daniel takes off the goons.

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They inform Argon that O'Brien, he's still alive, but he just got away.

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Back at Argon Labs, there are news screws that are outside who are reporting on the accident.

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They don't know the details, but from what they've witnessed is that the staff is not allowed

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inside the building, only high-ranking officials from the EPA.

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They are allowed to inside to investigate.

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We see the live news coverage on the TV inside of Susan's kitchen.

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Daniel knocks on the door.

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She's shocked to see him alive.

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He pleads to help her and explains what happened back at Argon Labs.

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He's now stretchy in his skin.

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Leave his skin.

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His skin feels like plastic.

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Fascinating.

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Susan tells Daniel about their previous experiments with organic materials.

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So they were supposed to be this mouse?

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And how eventually it would not resemble back to its original structure.

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So essentially, Daniel is doomed.

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He says, "Oh God, please, this can't be happening.

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I can't be plastic.

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A plastic man!"

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Roll credits.

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Susan hands Daniel a handful of caffeine diuretic pills to help him flush out the nanobots

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from inside of his body.

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Daniel is resistant to the pills because his stance on Western medicine doesn't want them.

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Susan then suggests that she could surgically remove the bots from his body and he's like,

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"Okay, I'll just take the pills."

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She says that she needs the nanobots to help stabilize the wastes that is spewing at

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Argon Labs.

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So that's what they need to do out of him.

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Back to the lab, faceless men are in silver, hazmat suits attempting to contain the oozing

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wastes from the blast with liquid nitrogen.

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But it's no use.

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The waste will continue to spread.

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And while Susan and Daniel continue to work on getting that nanobot, Susan quote, "To

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put it simply, the nanobot inside of you is a microscopic machine encoded with information

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like a strand of messenger RNA that is programmed to synthesize your molecules with the pylocyc

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prenees of assembler fluid, rebuilding the entire organic system with molecular level."

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A Brian then just says, "Say it simpler, say it in English."

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It's kind of part for the course when it comes to science fiction.

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It's going to be like scientists going to ramble on about this thing and some general

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is like, say it in English or something like that.

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She simplifies it saying, "The nanobot combined with your molecules with the plastic molecules

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in the white assembler fluid."

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So that's on a molecular level.

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You have more in common essentially with a goodier tire than with a human being.

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It's more rubbery, plasticky and what that is.

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You're going to die?

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Yeah, basically.

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Susan demonstrates what happens to a pulmarized egg that she experimented on.

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She bounces and squishes it.

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Yeah, it reverts back.

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But then she shows Daniel and egg from three days ago, which is basically an unrecognizable

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blob.

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He's doomed.

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Yeah, because it's killing all the living cells.

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At the lab, the news reports that argon was attacked by a radical environmental group.

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Aron reveals that the waste has a 48-hour period for the waste to be stabilized.

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She also wants to run some experiments on Daniel.

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So Susan takes a blood sample.

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It is just then that Daniel realizes that he needs a pee.

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He runs into the bathroom and he goes into a beaker.

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Now his urine is not liquid.

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It's actually described as like rubber cement consistency.

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Yeah, it's weird.

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The two briefly fight over Daniel invading the lab and ruining what could be scientific

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progress in Daniel.

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He's stating that the lab, all that it was doing was destroying the world in Earth.

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So eventually they laugh it off.

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Meanwhile at the lab, we see argon bribing the head of the EPA.

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Shocker?

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Back at Susan's place.

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Daniel is split out on the couch, limbs dangling off the edge.

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His head resting on the floor while Susan is searching for the nanobot under a microscope.

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Daniel gets hungry and he stretches head into the kitchen looking for food.

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He doesn't find anything and he stretches his head into the basement or Susan is.

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Daniel scares her, claiming that he didn't want her to hear him walking.

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She turns around to see that his head is kind of floating mid-air, kind of like a cobra.

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She's frustrated because she can't find the nanobot and must be still inside of him.

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She wants to do more tests and they go into the backyard and she asks Daniel to stretch

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out as far as he can, like, to stretch as tall as possible.

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It's there that he gets spotted by the two security guards, Sim and Dobby.

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Daniel continues to stretch his body and he gets thinner and thinner and as he does so,

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at one point his pants fall to the ground.

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God, the 90s were inappropriate.

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Yeah, it was.

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He then goes back to normal size and puts his pants back on.

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Susan gets a blood sample and a hair sample instead of that she's off the lab because the

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equipment that she needs to test is all there at argon labs.

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He stays at Susan's, downing multiple two liters of coke.

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He plays around with a glass of vase.

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He empties out the flowers.

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He actually sticks his head into it to kind of like conform to the shape.

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This is just like a fun visual.

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He suddenly needs to pee again.

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He runs to the bathroom and then he has a thought.

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Wait, technically I don't need to go to the bathroom and he just kind of stretches himself

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into the bathroom and he fills the beaker with a yellow fluid.

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It's weird.

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The camera moves closer and closer into the beaker to get to the molecular level and we

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see that the nano bot is inside of that beaker.

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Inside his pee?

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Yep, inside the pee.

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Didn't see this coming did you?

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I weirdly feel like I did.

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If you put bound and the matrix together, like...

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We cut to the Cook County Courthouse where we see the head of the EPA.

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John Joplin.

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He gives an announcement stating that Argon Labs was the site of a deliberate terrorist attack

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and the radical environment caused a toxic spill within the lab.

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The person responsible is Daniel O'Brien and we see Joplin on TV but he's muted and

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we're back in Susan's living room.

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Susan walks in with a pizza and we see a flesh colored love seat and Daniel's head suddenly

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appears from it.

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This has Jim Carey written all over it.

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As he retracts he realizes that he's naked and he quickly puts on his clothes.

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You pants fell off earlier.

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We've seen it.

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Yep.

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But Susan holds up a tiny red suit about the size for a GI Joe doll.

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Turns out she made this specialized suit to adapt to Daniel's abilities and it comes

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with little red boots.

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So this is where we get the like iconic red yellow suit.

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You couldn't have given me pants.

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So Daniel runs into the bathroom and he tries on the suit and it fits perfectly in which

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he says groovy.

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No thank you.

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That's a Bruce Campbell line.

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Oh it is?

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Meanwhile Susan sees the news on TV and turns on the volume and man hunt has been put out

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for Daniel.

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Susan puts together that they're blaming the spill.

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He's got a gold time.

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Yeah they're blaming the spill on him because they can't contain the spill.

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Right.

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They have 48 hours.

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When in doubt put a time crunch on them.

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You always have to.

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That builds up tension so well.

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Suddenly Sim and Dobby burst into the room gun strong.

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The two are escorted out but the beaker with the Nanobot is left behind.

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They get to the limo where they meet with Icarus, Poppy and Nebelman.

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Icarus gives his villain speech telling Daniel that he gained his first fortune from his invention

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of PVC.

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He was once Mr. Universe and now he's withering away.

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He claims that nature is the enemy in the future.

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What they need is the Nanobot and they're going to cut it out of him.

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But Daniel admits that the Nanobot is no longer inside him.

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Susan slaps her hand over Daniel's mouth.

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Icarus orders the goons to search Susan's house for the Nanobot.

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Susan yells at Daniel to do something.

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Nebelman pulls out a syringe and Icarus pulls out a gun.

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He extends his arm, pointing the gun away from himself and it fires inside the limo.

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The bullet bounces around and hits Nebelman in the leg.

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Daniel takes the syringe and injects it into Nebelman, poor Nebelman, just an assistant.

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And it was a sedative.

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So he gets shot in the leg and gets knocked out by the...

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You gotta find that guy too.

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Yeah, this is not worth it.

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Put in your two weeks now.

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Daniel reaches for the door but he realizes that it's locked from the inside.

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He dives into the back seat and he actually makes his way into the trunk so he slithers

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his way in through the cracks and then out into the trunk.

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He opens the trunk from the inside and realizes he's on the highway.

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The driver he's swerving back and forth trying to knock off his balance.

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Am I you going to bounce just hop on out?

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Yeah.

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I mean, he kind of does that.

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He sees a car traveling in the opposite way and he grabs onto that car and he slingshot

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himself into the air.

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When he hits the ground, he actually hits a Cadillac and he like rakeshays all over the

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place in Lanson someone's backyard.

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He gets up and he stretches himself really tall and he actually starts like walking over

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the houses to like get back to Susan's house a lot faster.

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We actually get this quick shot of these kids who are playing in a sandbox and all of a sudden

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a foot just like stomps into their sandbox and like goes away and they look up to see that

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it's like this really, really tall man.

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I hope they built like a teeny tiny tower.

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Godzilla style just I would love it.

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Yes.

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Sim and Dobby are back at Susan's apartment.

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They're on the phone with Nebelman asking what they are looking for.

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Sim finds a beaker of yellow liquid.

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He takes a sniff and it smells like crazy glue.

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That's how they know that they have it outside.

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Daniel hides behind a light post watching Sim and Dobby as they exit Susan's home.

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But if the NanoBots not in him anymore, why does he still have the powers?

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He just changed his DNA.

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It just changes his DNA.

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The NanoBot is helping stabilize him or like it did help him stabilize.

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So like the egg for example when they show that and it's like this is what it's like right

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now.

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But if it goes unstable it turns into a blob.

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Got it.

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So we got to put the NanoBot back inside him.

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Yeah.

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Essentially like he needs the NanoBot eventually.

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He hides behind a lamp post and he watches Sim and Dobby as they exit Susan's home and

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they get into a black Lincoln.

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Daniel then sneaks under the car and clings underneath to the chassis as they drive away.

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So he's just hiding underneath the vehicle.

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God is what we would have been so difficult and so expensive to make.

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Right.

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The car with Susan, Nebelman, Icarus and Poppy they arrive at Arkham Labs.

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They get out and Icarus tells Nebelman to inform him when the NanoBot gets back.

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Susan warns them that they have about 24 hours to get the NanoBot to take care of the

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waste before it becomes unstable.

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Icarus on the other hand, he doesn't care.

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He only wants to use the NanoBot on himself in the hopes that it'll do what it did to Daniel.

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Icarus gives a tour to Susan of his garden which is filled with impossible plants.

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You know who this reminds me of?

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Nightmare before Christmas.

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The mad scientist.

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Yeah.

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Like in the wheelchair with the mummy wraps.

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And he also has a garden, right?

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Yeah.

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So he has like this garden of impossible plants are crossbred genetically manipulated plants

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that rely on radiation and chemicals to survive.

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They also see a gardener tending to the garden.

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Icarus claims that these plants will change the world just like how the atomic bomb did.

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No thank you.

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Meanwhile, Sim and Dobby arrive back at Arkham Labs and Daniel slips out from under the

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car making sure that he does not get caught.

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In the garden Icarus is giving another villain monologue explaining to Susan that science is

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not about understanding nature but it is about a way to conquer it, to control it, to bend

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it to his will.

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Icarus is told that the NanoBot is here and they need to get the assembler tank ready,

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which is going to be at about six hours.

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So Susan warns them that if they do not use the NanoBot to take care of the waste, that

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this is the last NanoBot that she is ever going to make.

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And Icarus reminds her that he does not care if the city turns into gelatin as long as he

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gets what he wants.

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His body back?

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Yep.

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Does not matter what gets in his way, does not matter who...

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Why are you going to use that body if the city is good?

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If the whole thing is jelly, I do not know.

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Daniel slips in and he hears two guards talking about that they are looking for a guy in a

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red underwear.

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So not wrong?

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They walk past the wall of art and they look up to see a red painting that they have never

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seen before.

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Oh, I wonder what that could be.

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But they think nothing of it and they just keep on walking.

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Oh my god.

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Susan and Nebelman are held in a room with lab equipment.

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Nebelman tries to convince her to give in to Icarus's demands so that she will be all

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right, but Susan refuses to give in.

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In the hallway, a guard spots Daniel.

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The guard yells and just before he can pull out his gun, Daniel reaches his arms out about

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a hundred feet away and he wraps it around his head until the guard blacks out.

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Just let them go.

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Daniel continues to search, seeking his head between the closed doors and calls out for

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Susan in a hushed voice.

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This one I can really see Jim Carrey doing this.

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Susan.

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Susan.

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Done the hall, the elevator doors open.

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It's Icarus and Poppy.

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And Daniel presses himself thin against the door.

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Icarus and Poppy make their way down the hall as they're discussing a way that they can

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get to Susan so that she can cave and they realize they need to go after Daniel.

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She must have feelings for him and they're certain that he's going to return back to

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Argon Labs.

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If we threaten him, that's how we get her.

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We get to her.

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They pass by where Daniel was and he's gone.

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The two enter into Poppy's bedroom.

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Everything is read in made of PVC.

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Icarus and Poppy get into a heated discussion.

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Poppy is asking if Icarus still loves her, how she's changed so much of herself for him.

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Icarus is annoyed by the questions asking what is it that she wants.

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He then notices that there's two identical red Ottomans, but he doesn't really say anything

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about it.

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As you say, being in this red room, like that's the perfect place for him to hide.

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Yeah.

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Now to emphasize her point, she stands on the ottoman with her heels on.

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We actually hear from the ottoman this like, "Gurl-pain."

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She's hoping that if the polymerization works on Icarus and turns him into a plastic man

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just like Daniel, could she have the same treatment done to her?

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That way they can both live forever.

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Icarus says that he'll consider it and Icarus leaves and Poppy is furious.

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Behind her, we see the ottoman scurrying to the bathroom.

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Just understand.

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This is like her own personal room.

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She has a bedroom almost.

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To make this make sense.

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Poppy and dressers to take a bath.

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Daniel looks around and he notices that there's not really any place to hide except the toilet.

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Oh, me!

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Poppy enters into the room, but she gets into the tub and Daniel sneakily reaches up and

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flushes himself down the toilet.

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100% Jim can.

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Poppy, she hears the toilet and she's like, "Ah, that thing just must be broken."

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We cut to Susan doing science stuff with beakers.

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I don't know if I'll describe it.

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She looks outside through these barbed windows.

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The camera pans up to a chandelier.

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We get closer to a single light bulb that appears to be burnt out.

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We get closer and closer to see that it's a security camera.

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We travel through the camera, through the fiber optic cables and we emerge at a security monitor.

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Bams!

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A matrix.

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Watching over Susan.

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Yeah.

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We even kind of see this in bound as well where they like the telephone between the two

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rooms.

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Yeah, we kind of see the like following of the wires.

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Yeah.

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Sim, he has written a dictionary and he learns a new word.

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You ubiquitous.

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Present or seeming to be present everywhere all at the same time?

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Omni-present.

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It'll all come together, don't worry.

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Daniel continues to zip through the maze pipes.

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He randomly emerges from one toilet and he sees that the room is empty.

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He towels off and quickly opens door and finds Susan.

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Hello, Key.

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They can't believe it.

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She was worried about Daniel and he responds with, "I'm plastic man, remember?"

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Sure.

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"I'm plastic man, remember?"

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Yeah.

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Susan informs Daniel that Echris is going to use the nanobot on himself and they need

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to get it from Argon's private lab before he does.

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Susan warns Daniel about the guard outside of the door and he shrugs it off.

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He opens the door and he's met with Sim and multiple other guards and Sim, he calls himself

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"Mr. ubiquitous."

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[laughs]

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Paid off immediately.

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Ridiculous.

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It's ridiculous and had to rewrite they probably would have written that out immediately.

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Oh yeah.

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That is 100% unnecessary.

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Echris wheels into the room and greets Daniel.

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He says, "Welcome to my home, Mr. O'Brien."

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Oh yeah.

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They call him Mr. O'Brien, as in like...

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We know who you are.

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No.

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Mr. Anderson.

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No.

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Oh god.

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Yeah.

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It's kind of that same tone.

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Like, "Welcome to my home."

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Mr. O'Brien.

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As you can see, we've been expecting you.

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They seem to have Daniel cornered but he turns it around and he says that he's actually been

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looking for them and he has saved them the trouble of him looking for them.

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Yeah.

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Mr. Anderson.

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Yeah.

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I have been looking for you.

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Well, if you were me and I'd be you and I would use your body to get this out.

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You can't stop me no matter who you are.

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Yeah.

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So Sim, he taunts him and Daniel lashes out his tongue like a frog and he snatches the gun.

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Daniel threatens to shoot everyone but is stopped when he sees Dobby has a gun against Susan's

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head.

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Ooh, there he is and Susan.

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They Grus tells Daniel that they have a room for him and that he might be so comfortable

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in it that he may never leave.

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Everyone puts on an oxygen mask and the gardener walks in and he sprays a chemical into Daniel's

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face and he collapses.

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Susan asks where they're going to do with him and Grus says it depends on what she does.

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Danyl wakes up in a glass cage in the--

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In the motion?

451
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Well, yeah.

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He's in the conservatory which is where the garden is and it's being pumped with this gas,

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this not just gas.

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Which Icarus explains is a mix of oxygen dioxide and sodium pentathol.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Daniel is just a red puddle in the middle of the cage.

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Susan agrees to give Icarus the design if he agrees to let him go.

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Divalman tells Icarus the assembler tank which kind of looks like a Geeger sarcophagi and

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a dry cleaning machine that it's ready.

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Okay.

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A big old metal tube, but like stylish.

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Poppy helps Icarus undress and get into a robe.

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She asks him again but he tells her that this is not the time.

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Meanwhile Susan continues to do science in her room.

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To make sure the guards can't see what she's doing, she turns out the lights and she barricates

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the door with the chair.

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The guards get suspicious and attempt to break down the door.

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She takes the test tube filled with the replicator fallout and pours it onto the metal bars

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of the window.

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The bars now can bend like rubber and she pulls them apart just far enough so that she

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can slip through with a stool.

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She gets out on the ledge to find the main lab roof is about 40 feet below her.

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Turns out she actually took the stool, the stool that she took with her.

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She combined it with the replicator fallout as well and so that stretchie and she uses it

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like a rope or like a bungee cord.

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She attaches it to the ledge and she lowers herself down with the stretchy stool but realizes

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that the stool is not long enough for her to get all the way down to the roof.

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Now the stool is going down.

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00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,680
Now we have parameters.

481
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Yeah, but now the stool is going lower and lower and lower.

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It doesn't go far enough and then it's starting to snap back so she has to decide is she

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going to go back into the room but she lets go and she continues to fall.

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She actually screams as she falls and she hits the roof of the main lab and it bounces.

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The lab has been pulmarized.

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It is big.

487
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The fallout has been spreading so far that now the whole lab is now bouncy and stretchy.

488
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,200
Yeah.

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Everything is stretchy, bouncy.

490
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,760
She manages to get inside of the lab and everything inside there is pulmarized so like even when

491
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,600
she's like walking around her feet start to like sink into the floor with every single

492
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,680
step.

493
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,160
The door handles they feel like you needed it dough.

494
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,160
She encounters two crew members using liquid nitrogen on the floors.

495
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,480
She looks around for a weapon and she grabs a fire extinguisher.

496
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,400
She swings it at the crew member and as it hits the tent it just bounces off of it.

497
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,280
The extinguisher has been pulmarized.

498
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:09,200
The other worker grabs her and she drops the extinguisher into the puddle of liquid nitrogen.

499
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,120
She kicks one of the members in the nuts and she gets free.

500
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:17,160
She grabs the extinguisher and hits the crew member head and now it's solid so it also like

501
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,960
breaks into a billion pieces because it was in liquid nitrogen.

502
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:21,960
It froze in.

503
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,960
Yes.

504
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,720
Icarus makes his way to the chamber.

505
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,920
He removes his rope.

506
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,920
We see his...

507
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,920
We see his...

508
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,920
He's in his brain.

509
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,920
Yeah.

510
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,040
We see his withered body.

511
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,560
His legs like sticks of beef jerky.

512
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,920
The door closes and the chamber fills with chemicals.

513
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:44,480
We hear a muffled scream inside and Poppy bites her nails as she watches.

514
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,640
The tank is drained of its liquid and the doors open.

515
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:54,160
Icarus coughs up a gelatinous mass from his lungs and he rises to his feet.

516
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,000
He's no longer crippled.

517
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,160
He's restored to the physique that he used to be except his skin.

518
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,880
It feels like plastic.

519
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,200
Poppy embraces him.

520
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,200
Oh, itki.

521
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,200
Yeah.

522
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,160
He screams and he says it's fantastic to be plastic.

523
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,160
Get out.

524
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,160
That's a line from the movie.

525
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,160
Get out.

526
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,920
I didn't write this.

527
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,680
Get out.

528
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,760
He also goes into a monologue about how it's man's ultimate triumph.

529
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,760
And Sim enters the room and he tells Icarus that Susan has escaped and she's on her way

530
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,160
to expose everything to the press.

531
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,600
Also the crew has abandoned the main lab.

532
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,360
The waste cannot be contained and they need to evacuate.

533
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:39,600
We cut to a scene where Susan, she's actually wearing one of those like protective suits

534
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,600
that people literally.

535
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,800
She's not going to the press.

536
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,800
She's like...

537
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,800
"I'm gonna go save him, yeah."

538
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:44,800
Yeah.

539
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,040
Meanwhile, Daniel attempts to escape.

540
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:52,760
Underneath the wall of the cage he turns his arm into a tire jack and uses the other untistly

541
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,560
ratchet up the shaft.

542
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,840
But he's too weak and he falls back into a puddle.

543
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,360
Again, 100% Jim Garrett.

544
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:00,360
Oh yeah.

545
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:05,160
He tries to turn his finger into like a glass cutter, but it's no use.

546
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,840
Sim, dobbie, enebelman, enter into the conservatory to finish the job.

547
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,560
They turn off the oxygen and Daniel begins to suffocate.

548
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:19,160
An anonymous crew member enters and takes off their helmet to reveal that it's Susan.

549
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,880
She fights off dobbie and grabs Sim's gun.

550
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:28,000
Sim fights for control of the gun and manages to get off a shot at the plexi class enclosure.

551
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,960
It's just enough for Daniel to squeeze through and he merges on the outside like a genie.

552
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,280
Now they're in trouble.

553
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:39,760
Sim grabs the gun from Susan, restrains her and holds the gun to her.

554
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,680
Nebelman cowers behind dobbie.

555
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,200
The gardener goes to find the spray cans.

556
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:50,200
And Sim, he aims the gun at Daniel instead and he yells, "I ain't afraid of no plastic

557
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,240
man and he shoots."

558
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:57,680
The bullet hits Daniel in the chest, but the bullet stretches out Daniel and it stops

559
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:04,880
and then it slingshot back in the bullet, hits Sim's and he dies.

560
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,160
All of a sudden, like, yeah, that's what killed him is just the slingshot of bullet.

561
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,240
Nebelman tries to escape but Susan stops him by punching him in the face in noximal.

562
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,800
Daniel turns his hand into a giant hammer and hits dobbie multiple times.

563
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,800
The gardener begins to spray a deadly red chemical.

564
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:28,080
Daniel turns his hand into a giant bellow and he sucks up the gas and he forms it into

565
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:33,040
a nozzle and sticks it into the gardener's mask and fills it with a deadly gas.

566
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,520
Oh my god.

567
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,580
He thrashes the round, trying to remove the mask and he smashes into a sea monkey tank in

568
00:29:39,580 --> 00:29:40,580
collapses.

569
00:29:40,580 --> 00:29:44,440
The little creatures then swarm around his body.

570
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:49,960
I didn't mention them earlier when Aikras first show Susan the garden.

571
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,080
They also show the sea monkeys but it's like such an off-handed scene where...

572
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,080
Check off sea monkeys?

573
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,080
Essentially.

574
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,840
It's like, I didn't need to put in there.

575
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,240
I can just explain it like when they are here and actually like do something.

576
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:09,080
There Susan and Daniel reunite quote, "They hold each other tightly, feeling the volatile

577
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:15,200
electrons charging in the air, creating an intermolecule bond between them, they kiss.

578
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,000
They kiss so intensely that the entire building shakes around them.

579
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,320
Turns out the support beams of argon are affected by the fallout and can no longer support

580
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,920
the way to the building.

581
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,480
Daniel asks about the nanobot and Susan says it's too late.

582
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,440
Aikras already used it.

583
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,520
Daniel asks, "Well, what if we just threw Aikras into the core?"

584
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,520
Would that stop it?"

585
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,600
And she's like, "Oh, that might."

586
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:44,200
We cut to Poppy's bedroom where we see her and Aikras and this is a quote from the script,

587
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,560
what is happening beneath the red rubber sheets of Poppy's bed is beyond anything ever

588
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,520
pictured in the Kama Sutra.

589
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,520
Yep.

590
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,240
I can't even comment on that.

591
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,400
They get interrupted by the building shaking and Aikras realizes that the building is

592
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,400
collapsing.

593
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,240
Cut to Daniel and Susan.

594
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,200
Susan is trying to prevent Daniel from going after Aikras.

595
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,440
Daniel wants Susan to go to the press and tell the truth about what's going on at argon

596
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,440
labs.

597
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:17,040
As they argue, the elevator doors open and reveal Poppy and Aikras and they exchange words.

598
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,320
Aikras quote, "It remains to be seen who is the good guy and who is the bad guy?"

599
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,320
History is written by the victor.

600
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,680
Daniel quote, "The only history I'm going to be writing is your obituary."

601
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,680
Jim Carrey.

602
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,400
Definitely Jim Carrey.

603
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,880
Although I can see Bruce Campbell saying that line too.

604
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,880
Yeah, that's fair.

605
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,880
Yeah.

606
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,160
So, he can go either way and they fight.

607
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,200
It just looks like spaghetti arms to slap in each other.

608
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,320
The two crash out of a large window and they hit the ground and they bounce and eventually

609
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,760
they get to their feet.

610
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,680
The two stretchy beans are locked in combat.

611
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,120
The press sees them and they crawl under the fence to get a better look at things.

612
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:01,640
Aikras is leading Aikras to the main lab and Aikras then catches on to what he's doing.

613
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,360
He's lay in there to prevent the meltdown.

614
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,680
Aikras tries to leap away but Daniel catches him.

615
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:14,520
He turns his fists into jackhammers, wrecking balls and this one confuses me ballistic missiles

616
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,640
and uses them to pummel Aikras' face.

617
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,080
He falls to the ground with a wet smack.

618
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,080
Daniel takes the unconscious Aikras and heads towards Susan's lab.

619
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:29,200
He climbs up the stairs of the tower with large strides trying to get up faster and faster.

620
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,520
Aikras' eyes snap open and he wraps his body around Daniel like a bowl of constrictor closing

621
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,520
his windpipe.

622
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:41,280
Daniel tries to slam his body against the wall to shake him but since everything is polymerized

623
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,160
they just bounce off of everything instead so he's not really doing anything.

624
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,360
Daniel is about to pass out when he sees a canister of liquid nitrogen.

625
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,920
He elongates his arms and grabs it and he sprays Aikras' arms, freezing them solid

626
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,840
which allows Daniel to slip out of his grip.

627
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,920
Daniel sprays even more liquid nitrogen onto Aikras so that he can't move and he continues

628
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,280
to carry his frozen body into Susan's lab.

629
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,280
Meanwhile, Susan and Poppy begin to fight.

630
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,840
Poppy whips out a knife and swings it at Susan.

631
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,920
Susan ducks behind a statue of Aikras and she pushes it over, knocking over Poppy.

632
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,280
The statue smashes to the ground, breaking off on the arms in which Susan takes that arm

633
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,640
and slaps Poppy with it.

634
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,400
The building tips even further, throwing them both off balance.

635
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,000
Poppy gets up and kicks Susan in the head, knocking her out.

636
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,080
She then heads towards the roof where there's a helicopter but the roof because it's slanting

637
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,360
as like falling to the edge of the building like it's still there.

638
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,600
But it's like it's just on its edge so she gets into the pilot seat.

639
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,880
She starts the helicopter engine and that's what we see.

640
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:54,360
Susan comes to the very top and then she tries to get in as well because of this, like they're

641
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,040
fighting inside the helicopter.

642
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:01,480
The helicopter eventually like tips over the edge but it's hanging off of the ledge of

643
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,480
the building.

644
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,000
Why would you guys get into helicopter?

645
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,000
That's so stupid.

646
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,000
I don't know.

647
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,400
Well, she was gonna fly away but because of Susan like now the helicopters rendered useless

648
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,200
and they're just gonna like hanging from the tower in the lab.

649
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,680
Daniel finds a crater where the assembler tank used to be.

650
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,040
It is now a pond of pale glowing goo.

651
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:27,480
Daniel throws Icarus into the crater but Icarus has a single finger that is not frozen and

652
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,600
he stretches out and cleans onto a pipe preventing him from falling in.

653
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:37,440
Daniel then turns his hand into a giant pair of scissors and he snips Icarus' fingers

654
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,040
which allow him to fall into the pond of Moon Milk.

655
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,040
Hold from the script.

656
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,040
Moon Milk.

657
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,040
Moon Milk, alright.

658
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,960
With sizzle and a giant bubble begins to inflate and Daniel runs.

659
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,360
On the roof, Susan reaches out her hand to poppy and attempt to save her.

660
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,200
The bubble continues to swell until boom it bursts.

661
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,000
The force of the pop launches Daniel into the air.

662
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,960
He tucks himself into a ball and he bounces around through the hallway.

663
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,040
Everything begins to solidify but in their liquefied state.

664
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,040
Right now you're just having these like puddles of bricks but it's like hard.

665
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,040
Yeah, it's kind of like.

666
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:19,600
There's an episode of The Simpsons where Bart floods the basketball court, the gym court

667
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:25,240
and then because it's all made of linoleum they had to dry it and now it's all lumpy.

668
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:28,040
So now these kids are playing basketball on it and there's one part where I think

669
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,840
Mill House is dribbling a ball and the ball just bounces back into his head.

670
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,400
So essentially that's what this place is turned into.

671
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,600
The helicopter breaks free and falls down into the lab.

672
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,200
You're crashing through the roof in burst in new flames.

673
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,160
Susan is thrown over the edge but she hangs onto the top.

674
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,640
So essentially poppy has died with the helicopter but Susan is hanging over the edge.

675
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:57,000
Yeah, there's this moment she starts up and sees the moon and just like has this peaceful

676
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,240
moment before like it all blows up.

677
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:01,240
Wow.

678
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:02,240
Yeah.

679
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:06,080
So Susan is hanging over the edge and she looks up to see Nebelman.

680
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,880
He tells her that this was all her fault.

681
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,960
And Daniel is now frantically looking for Susan.

682
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:19,400
The tower then solidifies and it's band-shaped making it very unstable and it's about to fall

683
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,400
over like a jenga tower.

684
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:26,640
Nebelman pries up Susan's finger but the tower is now beginning to fall and Nebelman

685
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,640
is thrown off the tower.

686
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,440
Daniel spots Susan and he rockets himself.

687
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,600
He like slingshots himself to her.

688
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:39,800
He flattens himself out and he makes himself into a quote "giant, loose shoot" that Susan

689
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,600
then lands on and then she softly slides down into Daniel's arms.

690
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,640
Oh no, you don't want to break her neck, I'll explain.

691
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,640
Oh no.

692
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:53,200
The building collapses into a fiery oblivion as the two kiss and the camera tilts up to

693
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:59,400
the moon and fades into the sun and they tilts down and it's the next day.

694
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,960
We see Daniel and Susan walking down the street with grocery bags in their hands.

695
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:05,960
They're happy.

696
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,080
Susan recalls the last time they went to the grocery store and the problem is that they

697
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,080
had.

698
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,040
She says that maybe they met before they were supposed to.

699
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,000
They spot someone littering and at first this makes Daniel furious.

700
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,040
Susan doesn't want to repeat the last time and said Daniel picks up a cup and throws it

701
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,240
away with no confrontation.

702
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:29,480
They continue to walk as he wraps his arm around her.

703
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:35,560
The camera then pans back to find the litter bugs head face first in the trash can with

704
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,720
the cup stuffed into his mouth.

705
00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:40,240
I was going to say there's more than that.

706
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:50,440
And we get a close up of a sign that says keep litter in its place and that is the end.

707
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:59,040
That's a very cute movie.

708
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,400
But yeah it's very reminiscent of like the mask who framed Roger Rabbit.

709
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,480
But I would argue to say.

710
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,120
What a plastic man movie.

711
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,960
It's a completely different movie entirely from what the character has been established

712
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,960
to be.

713
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,960
Yeah.

714
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,960
So question for you.

715
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,960
Yeah.

716
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,960
Would you like to see this movie?

717
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:17,960
I'm torn.

718
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,280
This is the first time I'm not like hell yeah or no.

719
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,120
I want to see it made in the 90s.

720
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,720
I don't want to see it try to get made now.

721
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:30,280
But I think for like 90s nostalgia it would have been fun.

722
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,680
I think another movie for Jim Carrey would have been great.

723
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,240
I think it would have fallen under the same category as the mask.

724
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,480
It might not have been as good as the mask.

725
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,480
Yeah.

726
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:45,320
But I think it would have fallen under that category of like this is a wacky CGI movie and

727
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,640
to later find out like oh that was a comic book.

728
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,440
I had no idea.

729
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,440
Completely agree.

730
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,720
Like you would never have classified it as like a superhero movie.

731
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:55,360
It would have been something completely different.

732
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,040
It has like a fun hint of Captain Planet thrown in.

733
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:04,360
Which I like that his origin story is different than you adunked in poison.

734
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,720
I was bummed at first but I actually really like that his origin story was different but I

735
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:09,720
don't need it now.

736
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:10,720
Yeah.

737
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:15,920
Or at least if you do plastic man now you cannot approach it this way.

738
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:21,160
You have to be more faithful to the comic which is how a lot of superhero movies are made

739
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,880
today is like you got to go to the source because so many people know what the source is.

740
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,760
I just think this source material like I don't get plastic man.

741
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,400
Like I don't think the source material is that interesting.

742
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,080
I actually think this was a more interesting take on it.

743
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:40,640
I actually think given our climate issues you could make this a far more serious movie

744
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,160
but I don't get plastic man like at all.

745
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:49,520
I think because I know plastic man is a character and the way that I've been shown plastic

746
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:55,520
man before I have an ideal plastic man in my head based on how I've seen him in the comics

747
00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:02,520
how I've seen him in animated shows in the injustice movie like it is a very different character

748
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:08,680
it's a very different take and I feel like it's not consistent and I think the consistency

749
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,200
is where I-

750
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,720
Is consistency or something?

751
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:18,480
Yeah I think that's where I divert away and say like I wouldn't see this as a plastic

752
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,480
man movie.

753
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:25,320
I see this as a completely different movie of a elongated man.

754
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,080
This is just a zany comedy.

755
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:32,080
I actually also don't think we need plastic like I'm excited for a James gun take on it because

756
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:38,040
I think it'll be interesting and like I don't think we need plastic man as a main character.

757
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,320
We've had four fantastic four remakes now.

758
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:46,400
I'm sorry but each time we don't get the CG right even now like well now we're rushing

759
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,000
so that's why it doesn't look as good.

760
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,000
I actually really enjoyed the latest fantastic four.

761
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:57,860
If that's gonna be your title character it's not why we like fantastic four we like

762
00:40:57,860 --> 00:41:04,440
Sue and Reads like love story which I guess you can always have baby plaes but like now

763
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,080
we really don't need it with the current storyline so.

764
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,820
I think the way to use it is kind of like what they did with the animated series where

765
00:41:10,820 --> 00:41:14,080
plastic man is never a main character.

766
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,080
You just play a man.

767
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,840
Yeah like I'm fine with him being in the next Superman is like Guy Gardener's like they

768
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,320
can go chuckle it up.

769
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,320
That's all I need.

770
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,320
I don't need a stand in line film.

771
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,080
I kind of think of him as like it's kind of like cilantro.

772
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,560
You don't have a cilantro salad but cilantro sprinkled on things is delicious.

773
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,560
Well and some people hate it.

774
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,080
That's true.

775
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:43,120
Why didn't this happen?

776
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,920
Because the Wichowski's went on to do the Matrix.

777
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,160
Well for reasons unknown the script had sat in development hell.

778
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,160
It was expensive.

779
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,160
Yeah.

780
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,760
Oh yeah it definitely expensive.

781
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,760
And for the Wichowski's their careers just continued.

782
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,160
The script that put the siblings on the map mentioned before is assassins that came out

783
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,160
in 1995.

784
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:07,840
Unfortunately so much of that script was rewritten by Brian Hellsland who wrote The Nightmare

785
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,600
on Elm Street for the Dreammasters.

786
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,960
He also wrote Mystic River in Ellie Confidential.

787
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,960
Wow.

788
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,080
The Wichowski's they actually tried to take their names off the film because of how much

789
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,600
was changed which is why I love them.

790
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,520
Their stuff is a little out there but like I like how they carry themselves.

791
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,520
Yeah.

792
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,360
They're not afraid to swing for the fences and I admire that a lot.

793
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,360
Yeah.

794
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,960
Like if you think it's something like Jupiter sending for example like not a great movie

795
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,840
but like it really swung for the fences.

796
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,960
It was gorgeous and like they're really trying something and unfortunately that didn't

797
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,360
work out where it's something like the Matrix.

798
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,720
You can definitely see if you just read the script of the Matrix you'd be like I don't

799
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:46,120
know if this is gonna work.

800
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,520
But I don't understand it and somehow it was like it was lightning and a bottle.

801
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,840
The love of the Matrix really is insane.

802
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,920
The fact that they did what three and then did the fourth one like decade, twenty year

803
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,040
whatever way too long later.

804
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,040
And like I said it's a good movie.

805
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,400
I just you couldn't have paid me to go oh yeah this will be successful.

806
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,400
Yeah.

807
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,400
Yeah it didn't seem like it.

808
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,440
It just seemed like some other weird sci-fi movie that was gonna be made as well.

809
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,520
It was a interview with Josh Horowitz in 2003.

810
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:19,520
Josh Horowitz.

811
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,520
Horowitz.

812
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:26,920
And 2003 with Lana Wachowski explaining vaguely what happened with the plastic man script.

813
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,680
Quote originally they liked the script a lot.

814
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,200
They got a director and he didn't like the script.

815
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,480
I don't know why director signed on to these projects and completely rewrite everything

816
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:43,400
but he rewrote it and now I guess it's not the project they want anymore so we'll see.

817
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:48,520
They figured the only way that they could prove that they could write a good movie is that

818
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,360
if they could direct a movie themselves.

819
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,280
So they wrote the film Bound.

820
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:58,480
They sold the film stating that they were the only ones that could direct it.

821
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,960
Executive producer of Assassin's Joel Silver then offered to finance the film for six

822
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,120
million dollars and gave them free reign in regards to their story.

823
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,200
The main plot of Bound is the lesbian relationship.

824
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:16,960
And you know, especially in the 90s, had a studio executive read that they'll be like no

825
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,360
it needs to be heterosexual.

826
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,200
Like easily so there was like no we can't have that.

827
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,200
We need to make sure that this relationship stays the way it is.

828
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,760
The film wasn't a financial success but it did make it money back but it did prove that

829
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,320
the Wachowski's had the ability to direct a movie which opened the doors to allow them

830
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,320
to make the matrix.

831
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:42,040
With them they brought the cinematographer from Bound, Bill Pope to shoot the movie and the

832
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:48,120
actor Joe Pantoliano or also known as Joey Pants.

833
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,640
After the massive success of the matrix and the two sequels that follow Warner Brothers

834
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,520
approached the Wachowski's to write and direct a film adaptation, the studio has been trying

835
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,400
to produce since 1992 and that was Speed Racer.

836
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,000
They're all over the map.

837
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,000
Yeah.

838
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,760
The visual effects designer John Gettah, the visual effects designer who also worked

839
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,760
on the matrix.

840
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,320
Speed Racer unfortunately that was a flop and it's open in the weekend.

841
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,560
It was third behind Iron Man and what happens in Vegas?

842
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,880
Yeah, how do you compete with Iron Man and then anyone who wasn't going to see Iron Man

843
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,840
was going to see what happened.

844
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:29,760
And it's the theatrical run it did make over $93 million which would be great if the film

845
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,280
didn't cost $120 million to make.

846
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,040
Yeah, wow that's an expensive movie.

847
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,040
It was.

848
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,040
What year was this?

849
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,040
This was in 2008.

850
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,040
Yikes.

851
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,040
Yeah.

852
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:55,720
The script for Plastic Man that was leaked in June of 2003.

853
00:45:55,720 --> 00:46:01,400
Now in July of 2008 Joel Silver who's the producer who like took them under their wing.

854
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,760
He did Batman is that why I know that name?

855
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,960
Joel Silver he did lethal weapon and Kiscus Bing Bang.

856
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:09,960
There it is.

857
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,640
He's done a lot of big movies as well.

858
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,840
Like he's like one of the big Hollywood producers.

859
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,760
Joel Silver he was on a German talk show promoting Ninja Assassins.

860
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,880
The producer was then asked about the Wichowski's next project after Speed Racer.

861
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:31,320
He hinted that they might be revisiting Plastic Man with piano raves as Eels Bryant.

862
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,320
No.

863
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,040
So this is where that rumor came from?

864
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,040
I get it but no.

865
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,040
Yeah.

866
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,080
And he said that there was a potential release date at the end of 2009.

867
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,840
So there was a lot of hope that was there.

868
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,320
He went on to Avengers dog.

869
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,320
He's doing just fine.

870
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,320
Yeah.

871
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,800
Obviously none of this was officially confirmed but news outlets like they just went

872
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:53,800
off on this.

873
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,880
They heard this one rumor and they're just like the Wichowski's are doing Plastic Man

874
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,160
Wichowski is doing Plastic Man.

875
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,440
This is around the day and age where like Marvel just came out with Iron Man.

876
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,880
And just like they're gonna put together the MCU and it's like what is DC gonna do?

877
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,840
They're gonna do Plastic Man.

878
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,240
No, it didn't happen though.

879
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:15,080
But it doesn't mean that others haven't tried to wrap their ideas around this stretchy

880
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,560
anti-hero.

881
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:24,600
In September 2013, user Jet Beetle of the RPF forum claimed to hear from Warner Bros.

882
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,640
and DC producers that they were looking at David Tennant for the role of Plastic Man in

883
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:34,680
the upcoming Justice League movie quote and this is what he put on the forum.

884
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,880
A couple of producers I know told me that they were involved in an upcoming Justice League

885
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,880
movie.

886
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:45,440
I've known these guys for years and as nice as they are to never have been involved in

887
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,760
something as big as Justice League.

888
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:48,760
So who knows.

889
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,560
They did say Warner is basically trying to follow Marvel's lead.

890
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,720
No surprise there.

891
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:58,320
And amongst the heavy hitters already expected to be on hand Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman,

892
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,280
Aquaman, they want to put in a comic relief character.

893
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,880
They seem to believe that this is what Amin will be no matter how I defend the character.

894
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,360
I admit I have no idea how Pym would handle the upcoming film.

895
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,520
This is before they found out that Hink Pym was gonna be, yeah, in that poll right then

896
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:21,680
when they told me the character Warner was planning to include, well, I smiled and I

897
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,640
could totally see it as a good thing.

898
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,280
The ideal plastic man bouncing all over the place in the fact that the studio was looking

899
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,080
at David Tennant brought him to life.

900
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,520
This is another like take it with a green assault rumor.

901
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:41,280
And as we know what happened as Ramellar ended up being the flash and he was the quote comic

902
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,760
relief that worked out well.

903
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:44,760
Yeah.

904
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,320
Your boy Ben Schwartz of Sonic fame.

905
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,320
Yep.

906
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,560
Or of don't visit.

907
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:58,320
He has been a loud advocate on wanting to portray plastic man and he was inspired by

908
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,600
watching Deadpool saying that plastic man could be DC's Deadpool in an episode of the

909
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,200
X-ray Vision podcast Ben Schwartz pitched a story.

910
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,200
Plastic man is a thief.

911
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,200
You'll know Brian is a thief, right?

912
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:14,000
He even gets the superpowers while he's, you know, around his bad guys, whatever.

913
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,120
And they ditch him, which is also in the original one, which is also something interesting

914
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,120
to think of that.

915
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,720
Even that group of people who are s---holes don't like him, but I thought the fun of this

916
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:26,200
character would be he gets powers, but he doesn't stop being a thief.

917
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,640
And the course of the movie is people like he has to finally be convinced to use his powers

918
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,640
for good.

919
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:37,680
In the kindness punk rock era that James Gunn has created, which I think is incredibly

920
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:38,680
needed right now.

921
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:39,680
Yeah.

922
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:45,120
I don't know how you stick thief plastic man into that as any sort of main character.

923
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,480
I think you would have to change it up.

924
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:53,520
I think it wouldn't be Ben Schwartz's story given this is also in 2020.

925
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,840
So before the world fell apart.

926
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,840
Yeah.

927
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,080
This is before James Gunn before.

928
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,080
Got it.

929
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,080
Yeah.

930
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,080
So like it still.

931
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,080
That makes sense then.

932
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,080
It's still in that era.

933
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,080
Free 2020 comment makes sense.

934
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,080
Yeah.

935
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,080
So that's what he was going for.

936
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,520
But I do like that casting a lot.

937
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,520
Yes.

938
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,520
I do too.

939
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,080
In December 2018, the Hollywood Reporter announced that they were working on a new plastic

940
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,080
man movie.

941
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,960
In Amanda Adoku was hired to pen the script.

942
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,120
Prior to that, she wrote an episode of The Mayor and recently wrote Breaking News and

943
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,800
Yuba County.

944
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,880
In December of 2020, Cat Vesco was hired to rewrite the script.

945
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,800
She was known for adapting Queen of the Air, which is a story of the trapeze artist Lillian

946
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,960
Letzel, which had Margot Robbie attached to it.

947
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:45,000
She was also working on adapting the comic lumberjanes into an animated series for HBO Max.

948
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,720
But eventually the film and I guess lumberjanes also got canceled as well.

949
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:54,280
In February 2020, James Gunn was responding to fans on threads.

950
00:50:54,280 --> 00:51:00,080
User Coli 21 asked if one of these news stories were true and he put up three news stories.

951
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,760
One, a teen Titans film is in development.

952
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,560
Two, there's an open casting for Ruthie for the Supergirl movie.

953
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:12,400
And three, Darren Aronofsky is to direct plastic man.

954
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:18,280
And James Gunn, he responded with at least one of those things is not true.

955
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,280
Have fun guessing.

956
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,760
What a sinister man.

957
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,760
I know.

958
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:22,760
I mean, he can't like.

959
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,760
No, but like he and he's not like you.

960
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,960
He could also just not respond.

961
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:27,960
Yeah.

962
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,560
No, he's Mr. Kindness is punk rock.

963
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:30,560
Yeah.

964
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:37,000
Also around this time, Kevin Smith revealed on his podcast Fat Man Beyond that he found on

965
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:42,960
his old laptop a script that he had written two years ago for a potential plastic man cartoon

966
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,720
that would have cast Jim Parsons as the voice of Patrick Eel O'Brien.

967
00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:48,720
Interesting.

968
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:52,400
Yeah, I know Jim Parsons as that sigma of like being on the big big theory, but like he's

969
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,400
like good.

970
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,400
No, I don't think he does.

971
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,920
He was in another movie where he had cancer or his boyfriend had cancer.

972
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,280
I was like, this is, yeah, this is not okay.

973
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:02,280
He's a great actor.

974
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,280
Yeah.

975
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,280
He's really funny.

976
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,120
So like, I think he would work perfectly for it.

977
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,160
Like I know it was animated, but actually could see him in a live action as well as where

978
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,160
my brain was going.

979
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,160
Yeah.

980
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,160
He's got the limbs.

981
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,160
I can see that too.

982
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,160
Yeah.

983
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,680
And then lastly, in August of 2025, Rain Wilson.

984
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,200
This is what popped up that I've been itching to talk about.

985
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,200
I know.

986
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,200
I was like, what?

987
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:24,600
The very last paragraph.

988
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:29,840
He announced that he would like to play plastic man and he actually reached out to James

989
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,920
Gunn for the potential role.

990
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,800
Now for those at home, if you remember, Rain Wilson, mostly known as Dwight from the

991
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:42,520
office, but if you recall, Rain Wilson was in a James Gunn movie back in 2010 called Super.

992
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,560
I don't think I've ever seen Super.

993
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:49,640
Super is such a weird movie, but Rain Wilson is basically like, I think it was like after

994
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,040
a robbery con wrong.

995
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,080
He decides to be a vigilante himself.

996
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,600
Like he doesn't have superheroes at all.

997
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:56,600
Oh, this movie.

998
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,880
I haven't, I've seen, like someone had it on.

999
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,800
I've never seen all of it, but it was with Elliot Page.

1000
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,680
It seems pretty straightforward, but there are some moments where like it gets real

1001
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,680
weird in there.

1002
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:07,680
Yeah.

1003
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:13,920
But like, I can see why he would reach out and be like, hey, James Gunn, my own buddy.

1004
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,240
Remember, you put me in a superhero movie before?

1005
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:17,720
Let's do it again.

1006
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:24,400
It's so interesting because I think that Rain has the voice and he has like the comedic

1007
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,400
timing.

1008
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,720
I don't know that he has the look.

1009
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:28,760
Like I'm trying to picture him with like dark hair.

1010
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:34,440
And it's not to say that like he couldn't get in superhero shape, but like with those

1011
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:35,440
shorts.

1012
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:41,600
Like, yeah, like what I imagine, especially with like the goggles and like the hair and

1013
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:48,040
like that, the square jaw, like Ben Schwartz hits the profile just so well, just like look

1014
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,280
wise, we know he's really funny.

1015
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:51,480
Is this your last paragraph?

1016
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:52,480
Yes, it's okay.

1017
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,600
So the other one that popped up that I also think is genius.

1018
00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:00,880
And like again, this was me googling while we were recording was Max Greenfield.

1019
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:01,880
Ooh.

1020
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,600
Oh, that would be really good.

1021
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:07,600
Yeah.

1022
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,600
Wow.

1023
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,640
I really like that casting.

1024
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:16,320
There's no basis to that at all other than a Google image of like someone just fan casting.

1025
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,480
But it had Ben Schwartz and Jim Parsons in the image as well.

1026
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,240
That's why I'm like, yeah, I can see him.

1027
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:23,480
Oh, I take my money.

1028
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,400
I don't think plastic man needs a solo film.

1029
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:31,160
I think Max Greenfield needs a solo film.

1030
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,760
And so Max Greenfield and Nathan Phelian, like back and forth would be real good.

1031
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:44,040
I think plastic man on his own doesn't have the pull to bring people to watch it in theaters.

1032
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,320
Batman has the pull to bring people to watch in theaters, but you can also use him just

1033
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,680
like with Superman.

1034
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:56,440
No one's going to see the guy Gardener green lantern movie, the Mr. Terrific movie, but

1035
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,320
like they're fantastic in the super man movie.

1036
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,720
So you take something like Batman, kind of treat it like the brave in the bold and be like,

1037
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:07,680
well, Batman, he teams up with other DC heroes.

1038
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,440
Why not it be Max Greenfield plastic man?

1039
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,320
If it's Moody Robert Pattinson, that's actually really good.

1040
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,320
It'd be really funny.

1041
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,320
Shit.

1042
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:18,320
Yeah, Schmidt.

1043
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:19,320
Schmidt.

1044
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,320
Yeah.

1045
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,320
Yeah.

1046
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,640
I thought Ben Schwartz was really great.

1047
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:24,640
I still do.

1048
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,080
But the minute I saw Max Greenfield, I was like, take my money.

1049
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,080
Take my money.

1050
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,680
It's Josh Holloway playing Gambit and you're just like, that's the price.

1051
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,880
I still want to see Josh Holloway playing Gambit.

1052
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,880
He's so good.

1053
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,680
He would be so good.

1054
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:43,440
I would rather see a Gambit movie than a plastic man movie.

1055
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,440
I agree with that.

1056
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,320
Yeah, with Gambit, like he has enough of a pull.

1057
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,800
He's a big enough character to hold his own movie.

1058
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,440
He's got a love story too.

1059
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,760
Not that you need that.

1060
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,160
There's more in the comics, although recently with plastic man, they've really expanded

1061
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:01,120
on him, but there's more origins when it comes to Gambit.

1062
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,600
There's more storylines that come with Gambit, whereas plastic man has always been, he was

1063
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,480
the main character and then just kind of pushed off to the side.

1064
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,760
But it's hard to say that he's one note because he really, not one note, but he can serve

1065
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,080
a purpose.

1066
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:23,560
Him being part of the Justice League is really the best area for him to be a part of.

1067
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,840
Here, you utilize his abilities for very specific things.

1068
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:33,880
If you watch Injustice, he plays a very big role and actually helps take down the big

1069
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:34,880
bad.

1070
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,000
But he's not the only one who does it.

1071
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,280
It is everyone helping out.

1072
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:45,720
Plastic man is the catalyst that helps the league get from one step to another step to

1073
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:47,040
another step.

1074
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,680
And I think he's usually really well in that situation.

1075
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,800
So you don't need to make him into a movie.

1076
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,760
You can just use him like cilantro.

1077
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,880
I agree with that statement, unless it's Max Dreyfield.

1078
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,640
Yeah, that's plastic man.

1079
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:09,640
Woo!

1080
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,440
And that concludes the episode.

1081
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,120
Now is our favorite time where we watch things instead of research things.

1082
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,800
Watch this, man, I don't know, man.

1083
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,600
And we recommend it to you, our listeners, for you, to view with your eyeballs.

1084
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,960
And every time you say that, I think of a clockwork orange.

1085
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,720
It will force you to watch these things.

1086
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:27,720
Mm-hmm.

1087
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,680
My recommendation is kind of a toofer, but they all go into each other.

1088
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:32,680
One is Supergirl.

1089
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:33,680
Oh, nice.

1090
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:34,680
I haven't seen it yet.

1091
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:35,680
I think it's a great movie.

1092
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,760
I think it's a great addition to the James Gunn DC Universe.

1093
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,440
I really like it.

1094
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,440
Crypto is in it.

1095
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,520
Crypto is great.

1096
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,880
We love a floppier dog on this podcast.

1097
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:47,880
We do.

1098
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:53,680
So I know that it might not be in theaters by the time that this episode comes out.

1099
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,120
If it still is in your theater, or if it's in cheap theater, definitely check it out.

1100
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,680
Sticky Floor Theater!

1101
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,440
But like I said, I kind of have a toofer.

1102
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:10,160
So if you don't know, the movie is based on a graphic novel, which is called Supergirl

1103
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,440
Woman of Tomorrow.

1104
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:17,080
And the story is plucked from that book, and then they added a few things.

1105
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,080
They took out a few things.

1106
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,280
Like there was a horse in the book that is in the movie.

1107
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:28,320
From what I would recommend, if you can see the movie first and then read the comic.

1108
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:34,080
Because the reason why I say go about that way is because we're also these book snobs

1109
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,320
where you read the book, you watch the movie, and you're just like, "Ahh, falling."

1110
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:39,320
Right.

1111
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,320
That's not how I work.

1112
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,640
The book was better.

1113
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,920
In the reason why I would recommend like watching the movie first, like enjoy the movie,

1114
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:51,280
and then going into the book, which is written by Tom King, is that there's so much more

1115
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,160
that is explored in the book.

1116
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:59,400
They do add some things like they added lobo in the movie, which is not in the book, but

1117
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,960
they wanted to introduce that character in there.

1118
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:07,680
But there's so much more that is explored in the book, which makes it pretty interesting.

1119
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:15,880
So it's more of like, if you're curious about what is Supergirl now in the comic book

1120
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,200
I think the movie is a good introduction and I think reading the book is there to like

1121
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,040
satisfy your curiosity of like, what else is she doing?

1122
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,040
What else is she capable of?

1123
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,560
There's more multitudes to her that you can explore through the book.

1124
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:36,080
So, yep, recommend the movie, Supergirl, and recommend the book by Tom King, Supergirl,

1125
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,560
Woman of Tomorrow.

1126
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:44,000
This is going to be really random and so off topic, but going on like the idea that we

1127
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:49,120
pick a lot of like lesser known things or you know, I guess smaller things or whatever.

1128
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,240
There is a movie that I don't think I've recommended that I saw a while ago.

1129
00:59:53,240 --> 01:00:00,680
It's called Forbidden Fruit, but it's like, charmed meets the craft meets practical magic,

1130
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:01,680
set in a mall.

1131
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,600
It's just a fun time if that is your vibe.

1132
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,800
I like a FM lead cast.

1133
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:11,200
We'll go with that.

1134
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:24,280
And you can find us on the socials we are at development purgatory on Instagram and TikTok.

1135
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,240
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1136
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,520
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1137
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:37,040
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1138
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,040
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1139
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,960
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1140
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,360
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1141
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,000
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1142
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,600
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1143
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,120
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1144
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:59,800
know is a big film nerd who is a big plastic man nerd, DC nerd, what chowsky's nerd.

1145
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,600
Let them know about the show.

1146
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:02,600
Spread the word.

1147
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,040
Just go tell a random person on the street corner.

1148
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,040
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1149
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,480
Tell people about our podcast.

1150
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,880
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1151
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:18,040
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1152
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,560
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1153
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:21,560
We get that too.

1154
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,040
We get those also not get made at gmail.com.

1155
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:29,080
But we have the new email to go with the new name.

1156
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,680
So go out there, watch a movie, see a movie.

1157
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,480
Tell your friends about movies.

1158
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,480
Make a movie.

1159
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:36,480
Make a movie.

1160
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:37,480
Don't make a movie.

1161
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:38,480
Don't make a movie.

1162
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,480
Oh.

1163
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:45,840
Plastic man here reminding you that the next time you land somebody a helping hand, be sure

1164
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:46,840
you get it back.

1165
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:47,840
So long.