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Welcome to the Pop Culture Junkie Podcast. I'm Olivia, here with my fellow Junkie.

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I'm Shauna. And I'm so excited. I haven't seen you in a long time. I want to hear what you've

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been up to, what you've been obsessed with in my absence. I missed you so much. I feel like

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there's a big space between us. It's the hole in our heart for Nicole. I'm going to pretend like we

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haven't just spent the last two hours catching up with each other. Oh my god, it's good to see you.

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I love you so much. I haven't seen you till right now. I am almost done with Bridgerton. I'm on the

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finale of season three. Okay. You know, I'm not enjoying season three as much as I thought I would.

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Yeah. I can't quite pinpoint what it is in my brain that I'm not liking about it as much.

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Because I really like Penelope. Her and Colin, I'm convinced by them as a couple. I don't know.

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They went from being like just friends to deeply f***ing in love to, oh my god, I'm really mad at you.

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Just very quickly. Yeah. I don't know. Well, I think pacing was very weird. They built their

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friendship. And I can see like a genuine like caring there. Yeah. For each other. But they didn't give

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us enough time to be like, oh, like Colin sees her in this way now and that way. I totally agree.

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I guess we were supposed to think over the course of two or three episodes. Because I think they

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kiss at the finale of what episode three or the very end of episode three or four or something.

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Yeah. They kiss. Well, they kiss them and there's the carriage scene. Oh, you're right. You're right.

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Okay. So the carriage scene is until episode four. Yeah. That's like the cliff. Yeah. And then

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all of a sudden, they're wildly in love. And we know that she's been in love with him. But yeah.

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He's fully on board devoted to her. I don't know. It seems it felt a little rushed. Yeah.

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I just felt like they were doing too much. Like, why do we need another family member or all that?

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Another family? Like, normally it's like one love line, one story line. I agree. That's why

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texted you and I was like, are we supposed to care about Francesca? Because I really, yeah. She

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was like a genuine baby in the last frame when I watched that. Yeah. They recast the actress, I think,

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from last time we saw Francesca. And now all of a sudden we're supposed to remember. Oh, yeah,

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there's another Bridgerton daughter you should give a f*** about. She's kind of bland. Yeah. She's

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an interesting one. I think she looks like the Phoebe, what's her name from the first season,

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enough. But she's beautiful. One of my friends said she looks gorgeous, but she has like an

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Instagram face, not like I'm a Regency Beauty face. I think that's kind of where I could see that.

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I could see that. And they could definitely tell this season. Like, I think,

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oh gosh, the actress who plays Penelope, Nicola Coughlan. She's got like acrylic nails on,

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it falsies. Girl, come on. Blow up time. Season one, they didn't have, it was very light makeup,

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very realistic. And now they're like, we're leaning into the fantasy a little bit here. She's

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gonna have some acrylic. Yeah. We're just gonna go with it. I don't know. I'm enjoying it. And so I

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figure I'll finish the finale in the next day or two or whatever. And then I started reading

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Fourth Wing, which is a novel that I know you have already made your way through. Let me pull up

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the author on the scene. Rebecca Yarros. Thank you, baby. Thank you. Yes. I'm really enjoying it so far.

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I am only on chapter seven, but I did start last night. So I'm trying to read fast. You don't

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yell at me like usually. Yes. You've picked up the pace. I'm trying. I'm trying. I feel you.

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I'm like, shoulder. Why are you so straight, Master Trinidad? You're training. Yes, Mommy. I'm like,

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that one really means chef in the bear who's like, you'll never amount to anything. Oh my god.

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Show him a kill. Yes. I have never seen Joe McHale be so mean as he is in ‘The Bear.' Because he's

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actually so funny. Yeah. You see him in ‘The Bear' and you're like, oh, Daddy Chef, no. Yeah, you're like,

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but yeah. So I'm enjoying Fourth Wing so far. Again, everyone who's listening watching,

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I just started. So I don't want anyone to get mad at me. But it does give me Divergent vibes.

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Really hard. I agree with that. I think that there's only so many fantasy ways to play it. I don't

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know why. No one can think of another one. There's so many. There's so much. So much. So

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into the yeah, like the magical college kind of thing. Because that's Divergent as well. That's

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Harry Potter. I mean, I'm okay with a magical college, I guess. And it kind of reminds me of anime.

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Instead of Umbrella Academy, my hero academia and a lot of anime, they all go to like a hero college

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or a magician college or a soul reaper college and then learn their training and then level up.

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That's what I'm kind of trying to go with it as. Yeah, it's just like, I'm not like all the other girls.

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I have silver in my hair. This is my childhood best friend. We don't want to have sex. Yes, we do.

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Oh, there's a guy over there who wants me dead. We're definitely not going to have sex in 15

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chapters. Yes, we are. Yeah, I don't know. But I'm enjoying having. I really like it. Iron

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flame was such a popular book release last year. Second. Yes, it's a second book in the fourth

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wing series. The series has a completely different name though. It's not even like the fourth

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wing series. It's like another thing. But it's super good. The third one's coming out in I think

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October. No, don't quote me on that. It's time in the fall. I think it's actually at the very

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beginning of 2025. But it's very time to finish this one and the second one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah,

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you can do that. I'm going to take that long because I really am enjoying it. I've been making my

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breakthrough. You're never. Yeah, they do also. I don't know. Okay, I am new kind of to this fantasy

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romance genre. I know you are a veteran. Yeah. So they have the signets in fourth wing, which are

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like the dragons. Give them. I don't know. I'm just like, does every fantasy book have to give you

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a tattoo? It's one of a bond. But yeah, there's always a touch of darkness. Yeah.

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P.D. skips her the tattoo. Until like, I don't know. And then obviously in a quarter of the

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words in wrote, I don't know. Maybe it's like a popular thing in Greek mythology or like North

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Norse mythology. Because a lot of fantasy books are retellings of Greek Roman and Norse mythology.

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And that's ultimately what they are. Yeah. Why a lot of them become similar. Yeah. I'm not complaining.

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I love me a good trope. Yeah. And it means to lovers. Come on. I just think it's so interesting.

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What were the Greeks on it? They we've really been like, that was a hit.

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Let’s keep replaying it! The Greeks were horny and bisexual. And I love that. Yeah. I love it. But for us to be

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retelling stories from then. I see. So all we need to do is just retell that Greek story over.

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Yeah. And it could be that it's the most inherently human thing. And before the horny and bisexual.

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No, you that too. I do believe that. But like this type of storytelling is just inherent because

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what if the Greeks like learned it from other people, you know, that I think that stuff's pretty

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cool. I think that is so interesting too. And not to get too deep and weird. But like if you look

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at the Bible as a piece of literature too, it's like there are so many ancient texts that kind of

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follow the same tropes for so many of those because humans just kind of inherently crave a certain

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plot point and start type of storytelling. Yeah. A lot of them are just borrowing from like other

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cultures. Yeah. Yeah. So very interesting. Squirrel! Squirrel! So we're talking about the Bible.

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No, but I really like fourth wing. I think that I like. A guitar more, but I am really excited.

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I think Rebecca Yara's does a great cliffhanger and setting things up really well. But that also makes

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you really angry that you don't immediately have the next book. So it does kind of creep that void

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within you. I mean, that just reminds me when we were all used to be waiting for the Harry Potter books

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that you know, and you finish want to be like, what the f***? I think you have to wait for the next

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Sunday come out. Yeah. Wait for the date all that. But yeah, it's been really, really good.

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I'm excited. A touch of darkness was good because it was just so filthy. It was filthy. Yeah.

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Which I love. But the plot was little. They were really leaning into the Greek side of it.

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Yeah. They were really like, you know, this the story arc we're telling. We're not adding anything

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else. I was, I mean, do we tell the story of why we're listening to it? Okay, we did because you

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were listening to it. And it made it made it got me go and my engine's rev. I love that for you.

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I love that for you. Fourth wing has engine revving. I yes. Yeah. It's pretty good. It's better than

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that. I think in doing it. Yeah. I'd say it's in between the two of those. Yeah.

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Don't tell me who does it. I know. Okay. What have you been up to? So I have been traveling in the skies

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speaking of engines. We've been traveling a lot for work. And I normally fly American. And so I have

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been perusing those movies and TV shows. And it got me to start Palm Royale, which is with Christian

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Wigg Laura Dern Ricky Martin Ricky Martin? Yeah. And a ton of other really, really famous actors.

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And I'm happy with Laura Dern. Oh, I love her so much. But like Ricky Martin's in it too? I'm here for it.

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Yeah. It's it's so good. And I'm escaping the other actors names. But they only have the first three

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on on the plane. And it's it's so interesting. It's such a like a silly little funny first person

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kind of narrative within a murder mystery. Okay. But it does in like Palm Beach, Florida within a

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country club. So it's a very like silly kind of premise. I just flash back to my last job for a

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second. Sorry. Working car auctions in Palm Beach, Florida. Yeah. And so it's kind of like the story

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of like these elites. And it's a little bit of like a murder mystery who done it. But I think they do

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such a good job at bringing in all of the politics and in class and wealth disparity. The public.

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That's like right by yes. Maralago? Yeah. And so it's so good. It was so funny. So I watched the

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three on the plane over my various travels. And whenever I go to town, my mom watches my dog for

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me. So I spent the day there. And we just binge the entire rest. Yeah. That's so cute. It was so

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good. Honestly, everyone should watch it. What's it on Apple TV? That is the one. No one. I know

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streaming platform that I don't have. And I'm getting there. They're making really high quality

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television to try to get people to come in. I would say do it because I selfishly really want

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a second season. It was so good. I mean, I haven't watched Ted Lasso still. You know, same. Morning

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show is very good. I know it was Nicole's favorite show was she's passed on. Yeah. That is the

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call for instant in it. So that that checks it out to me. Yes. Yes. I don't know. I need to get on it.

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I don't know. I have an app. If I have an iPhone, can I just. Is it like, does it have anything to do

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with Apple? You just pay for it? Just any other platform. You can download it on anything. But yeah,

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you have to pay for it. It's a subscription. Yeah. I don't know. I just, I just demand this to be free.

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You know, it'd be great is if we could invent something where you could just watch any television

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show you want. And you could just flick through it like with a remote and just be like, I don't like

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that. And then like, go to the next one. I'd be like, I don't like that. You know what I mean? Yeah.

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Like, yeah, I think a lot of people knew what you meant. What if we could just get back to that? Or I

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mean get to that. Where do you think we are? I know. We got to spend more money than we have. Okay.

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Oh, you weren't making a joke. I was making a joke about cable. And how cable would be cheaper than all

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of these platforms. But the way you described it was streaming. No, because for streaming, you have to pay

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like $19 here. $19 for that one. $19 for that one. Cable is all just mushed together. And did you

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think cable was free? No. Okay. I'm like, parents tried for it. It was for me. Cable was cheaper than

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paying 15 bucks a month for what five different streaming services that we all have now. I think

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Cable is now cheaper. But at the time, it wasn't. I'm not talking about flex and all those got

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creating. Okay. So it's not Netflix. Disney plus Apple TV. Crunchyroll. How many more do we have?

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Crunchyroll. That's the anime one. Okay. Well, that's a little niche. No. Lots of people like it. And

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you're going to like it soon. Okay. A little spoiler for an upcoming episode. Yeah. I love your

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watches. I love you. I watch his anime for the first time. Yeah. Why did I read that in my head is

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like you are always sunny title the gang watches anime. There you go. I love it.

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producers will like that. You'll be like giving them the episode title right there. The gang watches

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the anime. Write that down. Write that down. Write that down. How the top? Well, my other obsession,

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where again, going to spend a lot of time talking about today. Shawna has twisted my arm

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or should I say my stomach and your inter submission in the coma in the best way because she is cookin'

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some stuff up. We are going to talk about the bear. Yes, chef. We're going to take a quick break and

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we're going to get cookin'. The bear recently dropped all 10 of its third season. A fourth season

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has already been greenlit so hopefully we don't have to wait very long. But the show has been

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amazing with critics, viewers, tons of social media hype throughout this process. And if you have

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heard us talk throughout this episode, Shawna has been trying to get me to watch this for a very long time.

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It's so good. And I don't know what it was about it that I don't think it was the right time or the

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right place. But I will tell you over this last weekend, it was more like a day and a half. I binge.

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This is so fast. I told you slow down the fans will understand. You're like, no, I'm doing it. I'm doing it.

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And so once I got to the second episode, I was pretty hooked. It gets you really quick. It's like

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breaking bad in that way when the first episode you watch and you're like, well, shit. Here we go.

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And I'm curious, did you ever watch shameless? You know, I haven't. But I've seen a lot of clips on

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Instagram, which is stupid, which make it look really funny and interesting. Yes. I think it might

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happen eventually. But I've also heard that shameless is kind of like weeds, which started out really

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strong. And then I despised by the end. And so that kind of sits in the water. When Emma, you're

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rossum leaves who's like the main character. It gets bad. Any show that continues on after

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main character. I see. And I think that it like no wind to stop. No, wind to call it. And that's why I'm

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so glad like the boys is ending next season breaking bad new into it. Yeah. Call it before it sucks.

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Yeah. I was a avid shameless fan. It's eight seasons. I'd watch it after an already. It was in

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its last season when I watched it actually. So by the time I got through eight seasons and this

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was back when television was not eight to 10 episodes per season, it was a lot. So it was a 22.

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It is a yeah, it is a very big commitment. But it is some amazing television. And that is actually

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how we met the world met Jeremy Allen White who is the main character in the bear. Now shameless

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is set in Chicago. And it's also about a very dysfunctional family. So it's very similar to the bear.

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It is very similar to the bear. And so it was a little bit difficult for me to see him as

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carmy and not as lip from shameless because it is kind of similar. And we both Chicago.

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I'm real quick for someone who hasn't watched the bear. It's an American comedy drama television

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series. Do you think it's a comedy or a drama? That's so funny to me. It was like it's one

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comedy awards. But I would say it's a drama series. Me too, right? Like it feels there are funny

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moments. But for the most part, you end an episode and I'm like a kind of need to cigarette and

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some whiskey and a steak. It was created by Christopher store for FX on Hulu. Jeremy

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Allen White stars as carmy, Brasado, an award winning chef. You returns to his hometown in Chicago

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to manage the chaotic restaurant that his deceased brother left him a sandwich shop called

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what the beef the the beef in the north side of Chicago. There it is. North river. The supporting

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cast includes Iban Moss back rack, a yo edgy beer, Lionel boys, Liza Collins, Zias, Abby Elliott,

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Matty Matheson, John Bernthal who plays the dead brother and many more celebrity cameos.

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John Borentos just. I love him so much. He's such a good and honest underrated actor.

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Like this man's going to get an academy award someday. He's such a good actor. Yeah, I don't think he's

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he's an amazing supporting actor that I've seen him in everything. Like he's really really good at that

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that role. I haven't seen him in a lot of leading. He was in the Punisher TV show. Which I made

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through the first season of and really finished the second one. He's again a supporting character

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in the walking dead. Yeah. But he's such an important supporting character that he dies so early

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on the show and fans are still like get this more shame. Yeah. My toxic trade is I would date

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chain in real life. Absolutely. We would. He is a cop but I wouldn't date him but I would sleep with

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that. If I met him not knowing he was a cop and I there's like, oh, I kind of like this guy

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then I figured it out. I might wouldn't like I'm already hooked. I've already been in me.

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I didn't see that. I just said, I mean look at him. He's so handsome. He's a good looking guy.

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He's a perfect guy. He's the Punisher. And so the reason that I brought up shameless is Jeremy

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on why was my favorite character in shameless. Was he dummy hot in shameless? Yes, but he's a little

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bit younger in it. And so the same character and it's so interesting. It's a really simple one.

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tightly wound like short fuse Chicago boy and like kind of driven in a way but to the point where

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prevent themselves from success. That's the thing is they're getting in their own way.

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Carmi is so focused on being a good chef that he gets in his own way of being a good chef, right?

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Like we know that he's talented in the show. But okay, we're going to obviously talk about spoilers

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throughout this episode. Yeah, so I haven't watched the very yet. Yeah. The same thing we did for

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House of Dragons. Exactly. Season one and season two. We are going to talk about season three

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episode one. Yes, I've only watched the first episode. Do this bitch. You powered through it so

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fast that now you're ahead of me. I know. Well, first of all, if I say I'm going to do so,

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everyone would do it. This is true. And it was really good. I went to sleep last night probably

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midnight watching it. And then I woke up in the morning and was like, I need to know what happens

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today. So I just had it up on my second screen and was like writing marketing emails. There might be

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me. There might be like a yes chef and email news. Whether somewhere. I don't know.

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I need 55 beeps. 55. Well, jokes. Wait, I can't show. Yeah. So I will say from first impressions,

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I had seen a lot of TikTok clips and claim around it. And I knew everyone said, yes, chef,

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but I did not realize how much like I thought it was just about Jeremy Allen. Why it's

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true. He calls everyone chef and everyone calls him chef. Sheffa cousin. Yeah. I love people cousin.

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No one goes just cousin. You can't like, he can't get a name. No, she's just cousin. Yeah. And so I

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was like, wow. And in the first season, it was used enough second season. I was like, whoa,

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we turned the dial up on that. Because at that point, everyone is chef kind of right? Like by the

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end of second season, they have the bear open. And he wants it to be a Michelin star restaurant.

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And so I think in his mindset, he's already running the beef as in his mind, a Michelin star restaurant.

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And I know how he's treating everyone. And that's how he's making them all on the ship. And obviously,

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they're used to Mikey's way of running the ship, which is a little more chill and probably drug

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and do ship is on fire. The ship is on fire and holes coming up throughout it. And there's drugs everywhere.

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It's all over the ship. Everything's on fire. So the helm beating a guy. I know what they do it in

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the kitchen. But at the very end of season two, aO a debris father says, yes, chef. Well, she's like,

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I have a good day, chef. And I'm like, the dad doesn't even work in the kitchen. Why is he so sure?

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Respect. She earned that respect. So starting season one, I hated Richie. I thought he was such a dick.

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I thought he was so obnoxious as like this character is just needs to leave. He can't stop screaming.

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And I have like ADHD and I have no way sensitivity sometimes. So if I'm at a place and there's too

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many sounds at once, sometimes I get so overwhelmed that I have to like go to the club bathroom.

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And I'm just in there with my own thoughts. You would die. I would die. But for some reason,

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this show still I can still watch it. And everyone is screaming. Everyone's screaming entire time.

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You start and you're like, Richie's a dick. We don't like him. By the end of season two, Richie's

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my favorite character. I adore him. I want to use my favorite. But I think he's a great character.

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So when he goes to the cooking school, it is so it is so. Working to work that restaurant. Yeah. So

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I was essentially live texting Shonda throughout this because I watched it a day and a half.

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But I just texted her when I was going through it. And I was like, Marcus and his love for pastries

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is making me want to cry. I did cry for the record. I was boo. And I'm like, it was just over this man's

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pure love for pastry art. And I was like, it's so. Marcus is so pure. I am. I feel like

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her. I'm just going through the angel. And so we're going through and like I think third an

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episode goes by. And I go, the guy who plays Richie is so good at douche. You can't take accountability.

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But somehow you still like it. I just said, oh girl, just you wait. Just you wait. And she is

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Marney's boyfriend in the girls. I totally forgot that he was in the girl. I thought you were going to say

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you haven't seen the girls. No, I watched the girls. Which is the piece of white fence. Oh, it's just

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girls. You're right. Not the boys. Yeah. Girls. It's peak white feminism. But I watched the first.

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I think the only season I watched was the final season. Because I was just no

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character on that show is a good person. It's terrible people and I couldn't do it anymore.

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Yeah. But I forgot he was on it. Yeah. But you're right. He's absolutely the same character.

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He is very good at playing that specific guy who's like loud, boy, stress.

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Do you know he's in the MCU now? He was cast and fantastic for it as the thing.

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Yeah. You see the original or not the original. But the fantastic story about the day.

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You know the thing then. That's exactly what I was getting at. You see the jazz gal.

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Yeah. He's the thing. And the coming one. Okay. So excited for his entry into the MCU.

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Yeah. And if you've never seen the show, little bit of a trigger warning, it does start with someone

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on a live. They're themselves. There are a lot of references throughout the show. I mean, I think

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the show itself is honestly, I mean, it's about cooking and owning a restaurant. I can just

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struggle to go through it. But honestly, it's a show about trauma and family generational trauma.

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Generational trauma. I think that is the overarching theme here.

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Yeah. Generational trauma, PTSD and mental health. Yeah.

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Absolutely. So the show starts with Carmies brother Mikey completing suicide.

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And he leaves the beef. The original beef. I'm just going to call it the beef. Yeah.

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To Carmies. And it's this family owned sandwich shop. And then we get like flashbacks throughout

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this series about like their family dynamic. Very messed up. Oh my god.

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Same as shame. It's like it's this really, really messed up family where they don't really deal with

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anything. Lots of alcoholics, lots of dysfunctional family relationships. And I think it does a good

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job at personifying the different ways that that kind of chaos has in a family. And you can really see

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it within each of those different siblings. And I think very, very interesting. I think our parents

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are all my generation at least of millennials. Like our parents were raised to really

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disassociate, ignore. And those patterns do show up within your children. I think it's a really

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good examination of that. We can talk about mental health and my family growing up.

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Yeah. Are you a little stressed today? And like it manifested itself. Like it, right? And I feel like

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that's and that's the age group that Carmies in. And you can tell that he's totally processing all

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of the trauma that he went through the Christmas episode. Yeah. I kept waiting for you to get to that.

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It's the most stressful episode of television I've ever watched. And I like Jamie Lee Curtis plays

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their mom. She kills it so good at it. She's so good at it. Is she so just drunk and angry and sad?

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Yeah. And you know, it's like not about the kids all about her. Yeah. I had a family member who

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who passed away from, you know, taking their own life about a year ago. And I thought it was a really

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great representation of how people go through that grief. How families try to support each other.

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Like almost they're not okay. So they're not asking how each other okay. I thought it was beautiful.

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Yeah. The ending of season one with the note and all of that. Like, oh my god. Let's, okay,

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let's break that down. Go ahead. Because you just watched it. What like six hours ago? Yeah. And so

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the entire time, Carmies like, why did he leave me this restaurant? Like, I don't understand. They

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had a kind of a rocky relationship. They loved each other so deeply. But Mikey was so into drugs.

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Got a little rocky at the end. He said, you can't work in this restaurant, which I think was

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really just his way of trying to get him out of staying in Chicago for a work of course. So he

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wanted him to go to New York and do those things. Learn about cooking until like if you're just stuck

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here at the beef. Yeah. And I think it was that moment, but he can't recognize that at that moment.

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And so he's like, why did he leave me this? And he's spending this entire time trying to figure it out.

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The business was in debt. The taxes weren't being paid. He's trying to figure this all out and he

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gets this letter at the end that cousin's been hiding from him, right? Yeah. Cause it became real

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in the family. And so throughout his entire life, because he uses role model, he would go to him and

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say, it doesn't matter. Let it rip. Let it go. Your anxious. Such as a matter of let it rip. And

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that would always be what he talked to him. Like he said, it's a car. Yeah. Yeah. To get him out of a

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panic check or get him out of his head and just go with it. Go with the flow and be in the situation.

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And in his letter, it basically says let it rip. And it says the bear. And which is essentially

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the title of the show. And it's going to be a name that call him bear. And it's the restaurant that they

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were supposed to open together, but they had their falling out and never happened. And so a lot of

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the first season is him grappling with how do I honor his legacy? How do I turn this business around?

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Do I even want that? How do I bring my current life into my old life? I thought it was just so well done.

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I really like that they showed Karmie going to an alcoholics anonymous meeting too.

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Because addiction is a family disease. Yes. So it affects the entire family. It's not just the

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person who's ill. And so him going to these meetings and his he's full of a family of addicts.

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Yeah. And then he's finally able to open up and talk about his story. I thought that was just so

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beautiful because a lot of people probably don't realize that you can go to these meetings as a

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family member of somebody who's you know an addict, something like that to get support. So I

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thought that was just such a nice touch. And Jeremy Ellen White, it's like a monologue in that scene.

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It's just so well delivered. He's such a good actor. It's so good. So I assumed he was from Chicago.

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He loves Chicago. He's from New York. He's from Brooklyn. Is he really a Brooklyn? I was like,

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I was a little upset by that. But again, I grew up in Chicago. So love Chicago. Okay.

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I do love I love New York City. I've been in Chicago twice. New York City once.

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I've actually never been to New York City, but I'm going in October. They're both just so amazing

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and so good in their different ways. Right. The pizza. This show made you so hungry, right?

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Yes. Thankfully I did all in one day. So I just won't be craving. I did end up like making some

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crazy like, crazy, like, pet chat a mushroom thing because of the fucking pasta. But I'm over there

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making like easy Mac. Yes. My dogs like me like you stupid bitch. I consider putting real cheese

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in like one of those easy Mac little cubs. I consider that cooking. I consider if you make

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instant like ramen noodles, but you crack an egg in it and you chop up some green onion.

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Yeah. It's in like some spice cooking things. I've checked. I've checked. I've checked. I've

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checked. Yeah. We have to find cooking. Like is it the act of heating food? You know, that's a great

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question. Microwave in because then all of those easy bake ovens. Did you ever have an easy

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bake oven growing? I did. Did you eat them? Yeah. They're good. I have in the food.

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The oven itself. Did you bring down those metal pieces? It just consumed it. No, no, no, no.

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Carmi. Carmi served it to me. I didn't know. Do you know? Carmi could serve me shit and I would

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eat it. Oh my god. Jeremy Ellen White in his like underwear campaign. Yeah. Well, while we were

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talking, I also just remember he took iron claw, which is also a very just social family. It was so good.

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But by the end of it, I was like, I'm so sad. I want to watch something funny. Yeah. Now I'm just like

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really curious. I want him to do an interview and suddenly give a little breakdown about whether I

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get so great, especially like a actor or actress who's been in the industry for, you know, 50 years.

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I've so many good insights about directors of their process. I agree. I really like those.

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Maybe not as much as like hot ones does. As Jeremy Ellen White been on hot ones, if not,

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he definitely needs to be. So does Ayo. I think she's incredible. She honestly is such a good actress

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in this. I know she's a great writer as well. Like she wrote bottoms, which is with what's her face,

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Rachel, Senate. So good. So good. I think she's just incredibly talented. She's incredible.

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That episode where she kind of goes like restaurant to restaurant and tries all the

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and it was his restaurant. I love this. So serendipitous. Okay. So amazing. I guess the very end of

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episode one of season three, that's where I left off. Episode one is very artsy. There's very little

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dialogue. It's set to just a musical score. And it's a flashbacks. It's a lot of flashbacks mixed

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with like him apologizing to Sydney about being locked in the freezer and calling cousin.

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So what I thought in season three, episode one against spoilers is that we were seeing him after

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he had like left again and he just decided he was going to leave the bear restaurant. Yeah.

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And then we were kind of flashing back in between. But you said that you thought it was

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them flashing back to him first left. Exactly. And that's why his sister was, you know,

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flashback to his sister being like, I love you. Here, take money. He's like, it's fine. I don't need

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your money. It's fine. He's trying to leave the bear. She'd be like, are you fucking kidding?

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Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. No, she was like, take money. Please, please. Yes, it's fine.

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And then it flashes back to him and he's training under Joel McHale who just walks by and goes,

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fuck you. Yeah. I can't imagine you're working at any job in your posh to smoke. So I was like,

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hey, hey, fuck you suck a dick. Yeah. You're like, shit. All right. I did give me a PTSD to working

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in a restaurant where you're like, God, the amount of unprofessionalism that happens. I'm sure that

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I and not like you and I were ever cooks, but like the food industry is just insane. I've worked

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decade long in the food industry, right? Before I found like my career now, but I worked at this place.

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I won't shout them out in case they listen and they decide to sue. I don't even think they're in

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power anymore in power. It was a Greek restaurant. And the name of the restaurant was based off

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of a popular romcom movie. Okay. And they would literally shout at me, Sean, you're so stupid.

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Sean, are you keep fucking up? I was 19 years old to be very, probably worth fucking up.

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But I was like a 19 year old waitress. I went to freshman at college. I just got through life

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tragedy. Yeah. And I was such a fragile baby angel. And I remember driving home one day from this

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job. I had my little waitress apron on and I saw my checkbook in it and I was just trying to get

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home and just weeping. And this cop pulls me over for speeding. And he comes up to me and like,

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yes, he's just like, you know how fast you're going? And he just looks at me and he sees my little

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apron. And I was weeping and it probably helped. But I was like a 95 pound platinum blonde

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baby girl. And he's like, just slow down, sweetie. Life will get better. Don't worry.

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I would yes, chef. But yeah, the restaurant industry is brutal. And I can't imagine what it's

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like working in those like Michelin Stark wrote trying to prove yourself kind of shit.

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Because if it was that bad working in my big Greek place that I won't say the name of,

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then my big, gricky place, like big Greek wedding restaurant.

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Yeah, that place does suck though. I've been there. I have a word to there, but food's not good.

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So it's definitely no bear. Don't eat the tiziki. Yeah. Oh god. Yeah. Don't do it.

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I'll add to the inner work. Do you know? Legically donate the tiziki.

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Allegedly. I've 20 years or yeah. We're like 15, but we'll do a six years. I am Jesus Christ.

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An ancient being. I worked there 65 years ago. Yeah, I think it's really going to be interesting. I

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keep thinking about Sydney and how they're going to deal with her anxiety and her process of

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kind of seizing control as a woman within a very male dominated and true thing as a woman of color.

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Yeah. As a woman of color. Absolutely. I think it is just so well done. The side characters where I

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talked about Marcus, Tina, the other one. I love Tina's. Because in the beginning too, I was like,

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Tina's a bitch. Yeah. You're like, oh my god. I get it. And she, you know, and I heard in Sydney's

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relationship. I think they just did a really good job about workplace insecurity and the feelings

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that come with them and trying to prove yourself. Yeah, prove yourself and work over in posture,

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syndrome and ask for help and like realize those things. I thought it was just an amazing well done

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series. So I'm glad you forced me to watch it. That is another important overarching theme that I

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think you just hit on is imposter syndrome. Yes. Like no one in this entire show thinks that they're

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good enough at what they do. I mean, maybe that's just part of we see the flashbacks obviously to

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Joel McHale's character. I don't even know if they get his character in name. And if they do,

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please fans, let me know besides just New York chef or new. Yeah. Like his head chef teacher,

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but he just convinces him the whole time that you're buried some suck. You get stuck.

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I got it literally like. And then when the bear is opening before a car me locks himself in the freezer,

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he thinks that he sees him, right? And it's just that imposter syndrome that we all feel no matter

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what we do for a living that you suck at this. Like, yeah, why did they hire you? But you have to

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keep telling yourself actually like, I don't know what I'm doing here. Yeah. Well, also if you want a

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James Beard award, like you're really good. And so yeah, I thought it was just so good. I'm so glad

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that you liked it and that you watched it. Yeah. I think that again, it really connected with me because

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my family member, like the dynamics. I'm from there. I love to cook. Oh, the Chicago B roll too.

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Yeah. It's like you must be loving this. Just all the beautiful shots of Chicago and all just the food

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and the subway or not the subway, but the train or whatever. Yeah. Like the like the the uncle who's

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kind of like mob adjacent like local journey. Yeah. Yeah. Reminds me of my dad so much looks like my dad.

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Did you say it in an episode that I was your dad at some point? Yeah, you guys have really similar taste

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and things. I love that you really like. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. So I remind you of Uncle Jimmy too.

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No, because that's more an appearance. Okay. That's good. I don't want to look like in like background.

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Like yeah. Yeah. I mean, you remember. You remember, dad, doesn't he look like? I do not remember.

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You just drunkenly asked him for a cigarette. Oh my god. I forgot. That's your tap.

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It was on my 30th birthday. We're talking sick casino and Sean has never met my dad before.

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Okay. Let me preface this. I only spoke cigarettes when I'm really drunk.

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It can't send you family members are listening. But yeah, your dad gave me a cigarette. Yeah.

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Yeah. Great guy. Love him. Love that guy.

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Oh, Johnny. I'm like a little uncle Johnny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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That's the freaking gobbagool with my freaking cigarette. Oh, now you're getting New Jersey. Oh,

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shit. Yeah. What's a Chicago accent? Kind of like what they're doing. But like it's less like

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you. You. You. You guys. It's more like big like kind of yeah. We seem fucking cigarette. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's a little closer. It's like a mix between a Minnesota and a New Yorker.

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I say that felt a little bit more so. Yeah. We're speaking cigarette. Wait. No, that was average. Yeah.

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We got it. We got a mystery. We got a mystery part. We got a mystery accent to her.

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Yes. So it seems like the season three again, we're only gonna talk about episode one.

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I've seen the second one so far. But it seems like they're really gonna go for kind of dismantling

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this car me as this perfect good guy, really making him not necessarily like an anti-hero. Or would

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you kind of see that from the first episode? You know, I just hope that car me

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repairs the relationships in his life. Because in the first episode, we see him making that

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phone call to Richie and apologizing for the way that he spoke to him the restaurant night

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or the opening of the bear night, I should say. So like Sidney and Richie and the staff

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held down the opening night of the bear. Because car me's in the walk in the entire time. I've

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got existential crisis. Yeah. And they held it down. Yeah. And so I think we're gonna see him the

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first couple episodes really try to like amend those relationships. Especially like the one with

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his girlfriend too. His friend, that's a girl. Oh yeah. His friend with benefits girl like that he

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kind of dumped from like the other side of the cooler door. Yeah, that was that was pretty crazy.

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So I hope we see him mend some relationships. I would love to see car me have some sort of

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personal life. I mean, and we kind of touched on that in season two with him getting a girlfriend.

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Yeah, or exploring a relationship with a woman. So I hope that we get to see more of that in season

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three. Because he's just he's actually a young guy and he's so stressed out. Dude's gonna have an

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aneurysm by the time he's 40. Do you really? He's smoking enough cigarettes. So, oh yeah.

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So much. It's just so angry. Just angry and just veins popping and smoking and just like.

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Yeah, I think the season's gonna be, you know, I think in his mind they survived with

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out of him. So they don't need him. And that's gonna just send him down a spiral. He's valuable.

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He's like, do they even need me here? Can Sydney do all this shit herself? Because their

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partners in the restaurant like they might even necessary here. And then help definitely feel

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the imposter syndrome. Yeah. I think we're definitely gonna see him and Sydney's relationship

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of all a lot. And a lot of people have been saying like, do we ship them? And just because there's a

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man and a woman on a show doesn't mean that they need to be shipped. Yeah, right. We don't have to

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love them. Like they don't need to be in a romantic relationship. They can be business partners

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and friends. Marcus and Sydney though. I better get to the other. Oh, also. Marcus. Is mom?

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Oh, that's right. But man, I get my heart shrieks. If you're a pastry chef and you look like a

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little gentle giant teddy bear. Come, come find me. You'll find her. Come find me. And show me your

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pastry. Show me your pastry puffs. Oh, okay. I just want to know what makes me like actually a

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pastry. Yeah. What makes him so cute is his like purity for his pastries. I know. It's just so sweet.

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Yeah. Yeah. So I'm excited. I like him. I'm excited to see where everything goes. I'm excited to see

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I'm just everyone evolve more and as is the bear grows and oh yeah. I'm excited to see

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of Jamie Lee Curtis shows back up and actually steps foot inside of the restaurant and eats some food.

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I think that they've been priming her. So I think she'll be back. She's primed. She's finished all

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those Halloween movies. So she's she's out of contract. She's ready. She's ready. But it's his mom ready.

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No, no, neither of them are ready. Yeah. Well, that about wraps up this episode. And I must say,

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I think it deserved at least one Michelin star maybe two. Don't you think I'm so hungry.

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We're gonna make some food. We'll make that omelette with the potato chips. Now, where do they find

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