Hello and welcome to "Development, Pergatory."
This is the podcast all about the movies that were never made, the scripts that were never
written, and the ideas that never even made it to the page.
My name is Daniel Kawka, and I'm Lexcee Riley.
Welcome back to "Development, Pergatory."
We are going to jump right into the story of the recall script for Toy Story 3 Part 2,
the episode for this podcast.
Nailed it.
Why are you in my edit bay?
I just live here now.
Get out of here.
Just calling from across the yard.
No, start the episode.
The draft that was selected was from Jim Hertzfield.
He is the guy who wrote "Meet the Deedles," the jungle book "Mogally Story," so one of
the sequels.
He did "Meet the Parents and Meet the Focurs."
Interesting.
He's the guy that wrote Toy Story 3, like the one we got?
No.
Oh.
This is going to be a different script.
Oh.
We've got another one.
Which of the fans is known as the recall script?
This is probably the most famous, unmade Toy Story 3 that we got.
I don't know.
There was another one, "Buckle in Kids."
But before we get into that script, we are going to get into these advertisements.
Let's begin.
Another Toy Story 3 written by Jim Hertzfeld with rewrites from Bob Hildenburg and Rob
Murr.
I feel like I'm going from 0 to 16 just this first sentence.
We open on a Taiwanese factory.
No.
"Walk a walk a toy co."
Inside a group of boys and a focus group play with prototype toys.
The toy they're most interested in is Dex Blaster.
Oh, Duke Dex, Duke Bip.
Oh, that's nope.
I'm in the wrong movie.
Duke Kaboom, I'm in four.
Sorry.
He is a blue space man and is also kind of like a transformer.
Oh, something I should bring up is that this movie, The Reason White, so famous is because
there is a lot of concept art.
So if you want to, while we're reading this, you can look at some of the concept art.
But then I gotta put my buttons away.
I mean, you can make that switch real quick.
So Dex Blaster, he's kind of like a blue space man, kind of like a transformer, but he's
from Star Command, the same universe as Buzz.
The executives watch and they're pleased because Dex could be the "solution to their Buzz
Lightyear situation."
Oh, whoa.
I don't like it.
We cut to the Davis house.
Okay.
Do you know who the Davis's are?
No, Sid.
Mm-hmm.
Gabby?
That's Andy's last name.
Nobody needed them.
That's Andy's house.
So Andy's mom doesn't get first name.
Yeah, but gets the last name though.
Mrs. Davis.
Mrs. Andy's mom.
But it wasn't actually ever said in any of the movies.
Some fan had pointed out like there was mail somewhere.
It's an Andy Davis or something like that on the mail.
Okay.
We have some online sleuths out there and Jim Hertzfield picked up on that.
That is the Davis household.
All right.
So Woody, he walks around Andy's room interacting with all the toys, rounds them all up to make
an announcement.
Andy will be going on a week-long field trip where he will be living where we go getting
rid of Andy.
Yep.
Where he will be living like it's the 1700s.
Andy's mom has volunteered to go and she's bringing Molly.
So we are rid of all the humans.
All right.
Him interrupts when he discovers an unfinished email.
Andy was going to send to his grandma about what he wants for Christmas.
Him and Jesse type out the rest of the email and says that all he wants is books and Molly
wants clothes.
They're about to send it when Woody steps in and deletes the email.
Him continues to look through Andy's inbox and sees an email from walkawaka.com advertising
their new toy from Space Command.
He's a little bit more than he looks.
Buzz shows that he's still relevant by "falling in style" in mid-flight his wing's "melfunction"
and retract.
Buzz plummets to the ground and accidentally turns on a vacuum which sucks up a few space
aliens, game pieces from the game of life, a barrel of monkeys and all of the army men.
Buzz tries to help but he continues to malfunction.
Woody and Jesse manage to turn off the vacuum and he freezes all the toys.
Woody talks to Buzz about his malfunctions.
Buzz tries to dismiss it but accidentally sets off his karate chop action, hitting him in
the face and he loses his hand.
They find his hand and put him back together.
Andy enters the room to pack up for the field trip.
He grabs Buzz but his mom tells him that they didn't have toys back in 1776 so he can't
take him with him.
Andy sets them Buzz and he malfunctions again.
This time his hand flies off and scratches Andy's cheek.
Andy and his mom then rush out the door to catch the ride.
Sounds like Andy's not going to be too happy with Buzz.
The toys confront Buzz about his malfunctions but he's still in denial.
Ham thinks that the problem is his chip and the only place to get one is from the factory
Buzz was made in.
So the toys decide that they should send him there.
They box them up, seal them up and they put a shipping label on it and the next day the
box gets picked up by a shipping company.
So that means that they took Buzz, they put him in a box.
They put him on the front porch and left him there overnight.
Hello.
I mean like you know what you did.
There's a deeper meaning to this function.
I was waiting for him to be like it's not your chip, it's your personality.
Oh yeah.
No, it's mostly his chip.
Buzz doesn't go much deeper than that.
The toys later discover that all Buzz Light Your Toys are getting recalled by the walk walk
a toy company and they plan on replacing them.
Now the toys are scared that they're going to lose Buzz forever.
Whoopsies.
And they decide to get him back.
Woody, Jesse, Bullseye, Ham, Rex, Slinky Dog and Mr. Potato Head which is the gang.
Yeah, the same gang that we got in the first one.
I'm surprised they didn't bring the aliens with them.
I feel like the aliens are always like a good comic relief.
They would have been great to go with them.
Like even in the other one, like the spooky thing, like use the squeak.
Yeah, they're the ones who decide to go and get Buzz.
They put an express shipping label on a box and now they're off to Taiwan to get Buzz.
Who puts them in the box?
I mean there's other toys to like help put them together.
Did they all sit in the box on the stoop overnight?
Probably.
I'm like, wow, we should have really thought this through.
When Buzz arrives at the factory, a red tag with a R printed on it is put around his neck
and he's dumped onto a conveyor belt.
At the end of the conveyor belt is a contraption called the smasher that destroys the toys
and uses an...
There's one more thing.
And uses an electro magnet to recover the metal.
Yep.
The thing and then they have to use the thing to get out of that.
Use the metal to like get to the ceiling and like hang on to like not get crushed.
Yeah, it's all there.
Buzz jumps off the conveyor belt and lands on another one and finds other toys.
He tries to save them telling them that they're going to get smashed but the toys are confused
because they're on this belt to get repaired.
They notice that they don't have the same tag that Buzz does and that the R on his tag
is for recall and not repair.
Buzz needs to get out of this factory.
Andy's other toys arrive in Taiwan.
They're on a truck in transport from the airport to the factory when suddenly Jesse starts
freaking out if you remember like because she was in the box for a long amount of time
like whenever she's in an enclosed area.
Yeah, she starts freaking out and she punches her way out of the box.
She gets to the top of the truck to get some fresh air and what he thinks that she's
going to jump.
So he pushes the box off of the truck and onto the street.
The toys spill out of the box dodging traffic in the middle of Taiwan and then they run to
get off the road.
Jesse casually joins the rest of the group at the side of the road.
They figure everything is fine.
They still have the box with the address on it but just as they look at the box a street
sweeper goes by and eats up the box.
Yeah.
Woody calms the toys down and they say that they just need to go in the same direction
as the truck.
And they start walking and the camera zooms out and as we zoom out we see that they're
walking in the opposite direction of where the factory is.
That's amazing.
Back in the factory Buzz is trying to sneak out and his voicemail function is giving away
his position.
An executive spots Buzz and decides to take him into the meeting.
She leaves him on a table in the conference room with a finished version of DAX Blaster
and his sidekick comment.
I have a quote from comment.
The best way to say it is like it seems like they wanted a black actor to play this character
and they kind of lean into that a little farther than I'm a bit more comfortable with but
I'm just going to read verbatim what he says says yeah you Mr best selling toy and walk
walk a history.
You are money baby.
They built this company with your white rear light year mad prop stog seriously slap
some plastic.
Yeah that's not it.
So DAX introduces comment as a pet cat in which he responds with okay two things I believe
the word you're looking for is sidekick and I don't care what they slap on the box.
I'm not answering to willow so he doesn't like the name willow.
I mean come on peeps you don't name a futuristic space cat after a tree especially a wimpy
tree like that always looking sad and weepy and pussy willow.
What a script.
Yep and the only name he's going to answer to is comment.
Whew.
Anyway the two of them they are star struck when they see buzz because he is in fact the best
selling toy in the company's history.
The executives return to discuss the buzz problem.
They decide that they'll offer a ten dollar off coupon if they trade in buzz for a DAX
cluster.
They also mention that they should not tell the old man Kaguay and that they're going
to make the announcement tonight at the DAX launch party after the meeting and see executives
take buzz and they put him into an archive room where they keep one of every single toy that's
ever been recalled.
Now I want you to look at there's concept art of like the toys in the recall room.
Oh well they're in like prison cells.
What does that kind of remind you of?
Oh it's the daycare articles.
Yeah.
Oh it's exactly like them.
Yeah.
Back to Andy's toys.
They are stuck in a type a marketplace.
Woody spots a toy store and figures the toys in there will know where the factory is.
Woody rides on bullseye to the store and he starts asking them questions but they can't
understand them because none of these toys speak English and Woody I'm not going to
like say this phonetically and it is spelled out phonetically but he does try to speak in
a bad Chinese accent and he says so sorry me no speaking Taiwanese.
Woof.
Yep.
Not great and I would imagine that if you gave the script to Tom Hanks he would be like
I'm not doing that.
I think now yes he wouldn't.
Considering this is 2004.
Yeah I don't think in 2004 he would have either.
I don't think now anyone would know definitely not now there were some things that should have
never been uttered even in 2004 that were.
So while Woody is questioning the other toys bullseye is accidentally purchased by a mother
and she puts the toy in the toddler's stroller.
Woody then sees bullseye and he runs to rescue him by jumping into the stroller.
The rest of Andy's toys see what's happened and they follow suit and they all jump into
the stroller.
In the archive room Buzz meets cozy Rosie a toy that keeps kids warm at night but sometimes
catches on fire.
Oh so good.
There's Jade a Barbie like doll with knees of steel in the way that the knees can be exposed
and a sure piece of metal can come out and cut people.
She also goes by the name Jade the blade.
There's also Jubilee a candy dispenser made to replace pez but the candy shout out weight
too fast.
There's side whistler with a tip that breaks off and chokes kids.
There's Spike the plush dog that has an exposed spike instead of eyes and there's Pinchy
Winchy which is just a toy that pinches people and pinches a little too hard.
What on earth?
Yeah these are all the recalled toys.
But like Buzz is recalled for a different reason these are all like terrible toys.
The cozy Rosie wanted I think it's pretty clever.
Where did this company?
The toys are all star struck when they meet Buzz.
Buzz he's like still set on like breaking out of the factory and they say that he's not
the only toy that's been trying to break out of this factory.
There's another one.
There's Shorty.
He's a short range radio that's been planning his escape for a while now.
He managed to escape as Buzz was brought in.
We hear on the other side of a walkie talkie so there's like another walkie talkie in
the room and like he's communicating to that walkie talkie about like what the outside world
is like.
Shorty, he gets picked up by one of the workers and he's put on to a conveyor belt.
He's excited because he knows that he's going to get repaired by being put onto this conveyor
belt but Buzz warns him but it's too late he gets smashed.
Buzz tells the recalled toys that this company is destroying all the recalled toys and
they're not repairing them.
He mentions that the former CEO, Old Man Kaguay, how he would never let this happen.
Buzz recognizes the name from the meeting and informs that Kaguay is still at the company
but they're not telling him about what's happening and now Buzz has a new mission and he needs
to get this memo to Kaguay that all of these recalled toys are getting destroyed.
So Andy's toys on the other side of Taiwan.
Walking in the opposite direction.
They manage to free Bullseye from the toddler's script.
They look out the stroller and ham notices that they're heading towards Taipei 101.
This is the world's tallest building at the time.
So Taipei 101 was actually the tallest building between 2004 until 2009.
I forgot the building but it's in Dubai but that's the tallest tower now.
Well that is a tall building.
That's a cool building.
So Buzz, he's still stuck in the archive room and his hand pops off and Rosie asks if that's
how he heard his kid.
Jade is in the background and she's eavesdropping on the conversation.
Now Rosie tells Buzz that she never actually got a chance to have a kid.
She was recalled before she could be sold.
Buzz tells Rosie how wonderful it is to have a kid and she bursts into flames when she cries.
She accidentally lights some of the packing material on fire and she grabs a supersoaker and
puts it out immediately.
Accidentally soaking Jade in the process.
Jade stands by a heating duct trying to dry herself and that's when Buzz realizes he could
use the heating duct to escape.
"Combaties, I have no water, no water, no!"
Buzz uses the heating duct to get between the rooms.
He grabs some twine and measures it out.
Jade uses the metal in her knee to help unscrew the bolts on the vent.
Buzz repels down the vent and Jade helps.
Rosie is overcome with emotion and she wants a kid too.
So she joins Buzz.
Jade tries to stop her but she then lights herself on fire to distract her and lights
something else on fire and then jumps down into the vent and then Jade is like "uhhh"
and then Jade jumps down the vent as well.
That's amazing.
The mother on the other hand, we have Andy's choice.
The mother drops off her kid and the stroller at the daycare at the 98th floor.
The kids find the toys and play with them very roughly.
"No one's a betterie and me on."
Oh yeah.
Bullseye is made to look like a my little pony.
Hammond Rex are in diapers.
Mr. Potato Head is now just a potato.
And then Woody and Jesse are dressed up as if they were going to get married.
Buzz slips through a circulation fan.
He collides with Rosie and Jade.
He didn't know that they were joining him.
They escape out the vent and they find themselves on a baby doll assembly line where Jade and
Buzz get dipered and baby doll faces get painted onto them.
They find a map of the factory and spot the name "Kagoy".
The daycare reaches the end of its day and all the humans leave.
The toys wake up and put themselves back together.
A security guard arrives and closes the metal gate and the toys have no way to get to
the elevator.
Back at the factory, Buzz, Rosie and Jade continue through the factory and stumble upon the Buzz
Lightyear production line.
Buzz admires the molds in the accessories that built him.
The three of them fall into a bucket of plastic pellets.
And the pellets are going to be melted down to make new toys.
The three of them are saved from getting melted down when there is a shift changed at 5pm.
They see employees leaving and Buzz figures that Kagoy might be going home to and he needs
to hurry.
Buzz is feeling tired and he turns on his laser and notices that it's getting dimmer so
he's losing energy now.
Back at the daycare, the toys are fed up with Woody, always being the leader and he seems
to be taking them in the wrong direction.
Woody eventually apologizes to the group for being bossy and the toys calm down.
Mr. Potato Head is called up by Jesse and he trails on with a very long apology and actually
put down this quote from Mr. Potato Head as his apology.
Let me know when it's so to get inappropriate.
You got it.
He says, "I'm sorry I got in your case but I've been a bit stressed lately.
What was being trapped?
Atop the world's tallest building and not knowing if Buzz is coming back and worrying
about how my wife's going to tear me a new storage compartment for not kissing her goodbye,
not mentioning I forgot to clear the history trail on my internet browser or hide the old
pipe I still smoke and those photos I took of Mr. Mr. Potato Head and it just cuts off
right there."
That's like multiple levels of wrong.
For a kid's movie.
I thought the lips in the last one was bad.
Nope.
I didn't want to say anything.
I knew this was worse.
Mr. Mr. Potato Head?
Yep.
I also didn't realize that we didn't bring Mrs. Potato Head until this moment.
See?
She's a damsel in distress.
She's a villain or we just don't bring her.
Yep.
They refocus on why they're there.
It's to rescue Buzz.
Slinky looks outside and sees a giant buzz on the billboard and right below it is the factory.
Woody looks around and sees a toy shopping cart.
It's a toy that's in the back of the house.
He sees all across the square.
There's the bubble machine, just like trailing bubbles.
So, back at the factory, Buzz, Jade and Rosie try to avoid the janitors starting their
shift.
Jade and Rosie run and hide behind a potted plant.
Buzz tries to keep up but he collapses.
Jade and Rosie go back to get him.
Buzz tells them that it's his chip.
He needs a new one and that if his light goes out, he's out for good.
He turns on his laser again and it's even dimmer.
He tells them to go on without him but they refuse.
Sounds like he needs a new battery.
Yeah.
Jade tells Buzz a story about how she almost got a kid.
She was being purchased and the cashier noticed that she was a recalled toy and refused
to sell it to the little girl.
This was a time when Mr. Kaguay was in charge.
All the dolls were repaired but her, she was kept in the archive room.
They figure that Kaguay's office is about five stories above them.
Buzz is unable to climb the stairs and the elevators are filled with people.
Buzz spots a sign that says "In case of fire, use stairs."
So Rosie goes into an office.
She climbs onto a filing cabinet and goes right under a smoke detector and lights herself
on fire causing the alarm to go off.
The employees run using the stairs leaving the elevators empty and the toys get in and
Rosie hits level five.
That's awesome.
Andy's toys land in the courtyard outside of the factory and they sneak into the building
from the loading dock just as the employees shut the gate.
Buzz, Jade and Rosie, they find themselves in the conference room with Dax Blaster and
Comet.
Dax is admiring a poster of himself in action with a sidekick Comet.
They look around for a memo that says "The factory is destroying all the recalled toys
and Jade finds it."
Dax offers to help them.
Jade, Rosie and Buzz get into one of those pneumatic tubes.
Yeah.
And Dax hovers hand over Mr. Kaguay's button and deviously pushes the recycle button instead.
Dax and Comet transform into vehicles and they roll out.
It's the lot so pushing them.
Yes, the devious fiend back to Andy's toys.
Ham figures out somehow that they need to get picked up by 7pm that day in order for them
to get back to Andy's home before they arrive.
They finally find Buzz and then they find another Buzz.
And suddenly they're surrounded by hundreds of recalled Buzz Lightyear action figures.
And Buzz.
And none of them is their Buzz.
But then they look up and they spot Buzz in the pneumatic tube, soaring over them.
Oh my god.
But he's going the wrong way.
Buzz, Jade and Rosie spill out of the tube and into a hopper.
Dax and Comet enter the room, transforming back into their action figure selves.
They tip over the hopper and put the three onto a conveyor belt headed for the smasher.
The toys go to rescue them and they manage to help Jade and Rosie.
The other toys are pushed off and Woody and Buzz are clamped onto the belt.
Buzz is able to wiggle free from the restraints and Woody says to leave him, but Buzz refuses.
Buzz raises the clamp just enough to free Woody and Woody jumps off the belt and Buzz follows.
But his leg is caught and he hangs off the edge of the belt.
The smasher comes down and destroys Buzz's leg and he falls to the ground.
He's worthless.
Dax and Comet, they leave because their job is done.
The other toys gather on Buzz.
He springs back to life but doesn't remember anything.
He's mixing up his words.
Ham reminds him that if his chip goes, then so do his memories.
But like okay.
He has no memory because of the switches, the other way.
That's very similar.
Yeah, the demo mode.
Yeah.
Look around at the other recalled Buzz late years and find replacement parts.
The toys perform surgery on Buzz.
They replace his leg, they open them up, they take out his chip, they put in a new one, they
close them up and push the button on his chest and Buzz wakes up.
But it's not the Buzz they knew.
It's like he's brand new.
Oh, so you don't risk anything?
Yes.
Spanish mode.
They're devastated but they know they need to get them back to Andy.
Rosie and Jade are disappointed because Buzz, the old Buzz, they promised him that they
would get fixed too.
The mention of Andy then triggers something in Buzz but it passes and Woody is telling Buzz
like, Andy is our kid.
Buzz, our boy.
And then like Buzz suddenly like, well, this is kind of a homophobic statement that he says
after this.
He Buzz goes, "Our boy, like our son, are you saying you and me are, you know, one of those
two dad families?"
Jade and Rosie remind Buzz what it's like to have a kid from all the stories that he told
them.
Buzz regains his memories and he can't leave yet.
He remembers he needs to get that memo to Cigoy.
Ham in the background is printing out a shipping label to get them back.
Ham is really just the one that moves the story along.
He is.
He's very practical.
I've never noticed it until now.
The toys get into the tube and they're way back to Cigoy's office.
They get there just after a secretary leaves for the day.
They're about to slide the memo under the door when Rosie gets really excited and then lights
the memo on fire by accident.
Oh my god.
And they stop out the flame but it's too late.
They try to put the memo in the trash but the noise catches the attention of Cigoy.
He steps out of his office and the toys flop to the ground.
He's thrilled to see the toys.
Look at what he's coming.
Yeah.
He's thrilled to see the toys and actually brings them into his office.
And he puts Woody and Buzz directly in front of him and he tries to trigger their real voices.
At first they spew out their pre-recorded messages.
Cigoy eventually convinces Buzz to break character.
Not only it.
Yeah, I didn't like this part either.
He tells him like, "I created you and I know you can speak.
I know you can do this."
And Buzz finally like, he breaks and tells him what's going on in the factory.
No.
I don't think that should be a thing.
I feel like there's a different way you can do this.
I don't like the idea.
Not an adult.
Maybe a kid like being a...
I mean I can understand like when they did this with Sid and Woody had to break character
to be like, "Don't fuck with us."
Right.
Yeah.
But this case, I don't know.
But again, Sid's a child.
Like it's different.
Like there's a level of how much is in a child's imagination.
The businessman?
No, thank you.
I mean I get the idea that like he's viewed as like a purist.
Right.
Maybe because he knew this knowledge that destroying toys is...
I must be get a flashback of like his childhood and that's how he like, I don't want it.
Yeah.
There's a better way to make it pay off if you introduce something earlier in that story.
I know.
I know it's going yet, so...
Yeah.
But...
I don't trust this man as far as I can throw him.
Yeah.
So, Kaguay takes the toys with him to see the smasher and he's furious.
And he promises to fix every toy and dashes to the DAX blaster party.
At the party, he makes an announcement to the company that they're actually going to be
fixing every Buzz Lightyear and every broken toy.
And Kaguay brings out a fleet of Buzz Lightyear action figures and he announces that there's
going to be a new space rover for him to drive in.
Oh.
And this is a way to like undermine the executives when they're going to make the huge reveal,
which I don't fully understand this.
They're going to make a huge reveal of DAX and he takes comet instead and puts them in
the place of DAX.
And when they reveal the new toy, everyone at the company thinks that comet is the new DAX
blaster, even though there's promotional photos and posters...
Right.
I don't...
You said they turn into transformers, right?
Yeah.
So it feels like they're using the DAX blaster as Buzz's rover and then because comet is a cat,
right?
Yeah.
That's the sidekick also.
But the way that he duped them was to make everyone think that comet is the DAX blaster
that they were going to announce.
Right.
We were always going to announce a sidekick for Buzz Lightyear and not that I get.
Yeah.
DAX blaster, he's like put off to the side comet, he's in the spotlight, he's loving it,
and then DAX just kind of like gets really jealous that he's getting all this attention
because it should have been for him.
No, they're just going to use his parts to make a rover for Buzz Lightyear.
Yeah.
DAX is irate and he chases Buzz and the other toys into the loading dock.
In DAX, he actually goes to the DAX manufacturing line and he turns on the machine and he creates
an army of DAX blasters.
Santa Claus too.
To go and chase after Buzz and the toys.
Wooding the other toys are in a box waiting for Buzz.
Buzz uses his new rover to knock over some boxes and creating distance between him and
DAX's army.
He swarves and crashes into a recalled Buzz.
They pick him up and now there's an army of Buzz Lightyears.
And they battle with an army of DAX blasters.
Wow.
Right?
It's only a janitor walks into the room and the whole army just like flops to the ground.
Yeah, when the janitor walks in, he looks at the mass and he's like, I'm not dealing
with that and he just walks out of the room.
Not today.
Nope, I don't get paid enough.
A lot of this movie reminds me of Toy Story 2.
And that seems to be the case where it's like, you're not reinventing or making something
new.
It's just like you're just kind of recycling a lot of old ideas.
Yeah, and I mean, the reason that Toy Story 3 works so well is because there's a lot of
heart behind it.
And there is a human counterpoint of like growing older and both of these so far really don't
have that.
Well, if you think about like with Woody, remember Woody got left behind because
his shoulder ripped and was like, oh, he's a broken toy.
Doesn't it feel like you have that?
And then when you think about the army of buzzes, I just think of them being in the Toy Story.
Yeah.
Doesn't feel that different to me.
It doesn't feel new.
It just feels like, okay, how could we just take the puzzle pieces and just kind of rearrange
that?
You just shook up the box.
Yeah.
The janitor is left.
The battle continues.
And Andy's buzz continues to the shipping area in his rover as the main DAX blaster transforms
into a motorcycle and chases after him.
Buzz appears and the toys start putting together the box.
Slinky then realizes that him made a mistake and he actually puts Andy's old address on
the label.
They abandoned the box and they scrambled to make a new one.
Buzz and DAX are in a full on fight and Buzz pops out his wings and sends DAX into the
old box.
Buzz then quickly seals it up and Woody changes the shipping label so it's then sent to
Sid's house.
Dark.
Although that is funny and that one bit, I like that one should be thrown into, I guess
fine.
So they hop into the new box and before they close it up, Jade gives Buzz a kiss for his
help.
How's Jesse feel about them?
It's Jesse there.
We haven't talked about Jesse a lot.
Yeah, she's with them.
She's not doing much.
She's just along.
Yeah, because she was the one that was stuck in the box.
Oh, right.
She's not the dance on distress and she's not the villain.
So she's just there.
She was there for that like that one element so that they wouldn't arrive to the factory
earlier.
Right.
She was a roadblock more than an asset, but she was in distress.
Yes.
We cut to Andy's house where we see the box arrive mere moments before the Davis families
does.
Andy bursts into his room and he tells the stories all about the field trip and that the
scar on his face actually made him look like a pirate to his classmates and he's cool.
That's awesome.
Andy heads out to see if he's missed an email.
Buzz, Woody and Jesse have a moment of relief.
Off screen, we hear that Andy got a letter from Walk Walk a Toy Company and that he's being
recalled and he's being sent back to the factory and the hero is given, uh oh, look to
the camera and the movie ends in a montage of kids getting their new fixed Buzz Light
ears back.
I guess that's cute.
Yeah.
But I've seen this movie.
Yeah.
It just doesn't, like I said, I knew we mentioned before.
It's like it's a lot of recycled ideas, broken toys and it is nice that the one that we
got you can tell that there's a lot of, they 100% read these.
They 100% took things from them, but like Jesse being in the box and having like that fear
is Jesse's character.
Like she is always anxious about like, are we going in the attic?
Are we going here?
Am I being forgotten?
I'm just baffled by the fact that like she had to be in the box to fly all the way across
the world.
Hour 24 is just too much, you know?
And like suddenly like her being in the truck is so close to the factory is like, that
was my time to freak out.
I don't mind Jesse's panic attacks being for convenience of story sake because like they
really do come with the most in-appertune time.
So like that's not terrible.
And it kind of pushes for everyone to be like, oh she's freaking out like we have to get
out now, which kind of makes everyone think in a much more creative way.
But I do like that they keep, at least keep that part of her consistent.
Yeah.
She's always an anxious mess.
Always a damsel, always in distress.
Okay.
So let's explain what happened.
Pre-production got further than you think it did.
Obviously the script was written, but for the recall script it was fully story boarded.
That's wild to me.
Oh, because we had the 40.
These are the two.
So out of the 40 stories, we got these two and these were leaked that were incredibly
different from each other.
That of 40 stories, this copy pasta of two is the one that got the furthest.
Yeah, but also keep in mind that this is like no one sat in the meeting and was like, hey,
do we think we've heard this before?
I think it got to the point where they have to think good enough because you have to think
to yourself like this is much like these straight to video sequels.
Hey, some of those had real good stories.
I mean, we can talk about the third little mermaid as being like the best sequel, but like
it was still straight to video.
Is there a third little mermaid?
No.
I believe there was a Winnie the Pooh story.
It was about Tigger.
Oh, yeah.
But that was so good that they decided to release it theatrically.
So that's the case where like the story was good enough.
But you have to consider like it can't be so good that it needs a theatrical release,
but it needs to be good enough for people to like watch it.
But this is for three, right?
Mm-hmm.
So like at this point they are doing theatrical releases.
No.
They did for one and two.
They did for one and two, two was supposed to be a straight to video, but then they decided
to make it.
Right, but that's what I'm saying.
If these movies have a track record of doing so well in the box office, a third should
also be like the end of a story.
It's the end of, you know, because that wasn't part of the agreement.
The agreement was Pixar was in charge of the theatrical releases.
Whereas on Disney's end, yes, they got rights to the characters.
Were they not allowed to do theatrical releases?
No.
I didn't realize they weren't allowed to.
They were allowed to do sequels, but straight to video sequels.
Okay, fine, fine, fine.
That makes more sense.
Like I knew that that was what they were aiming for.
I just didn't realize they really couldn't.
Yeah, like I said, pre-production went further than you thought.
Obviously the script was written, but for the recall script there was like a full storyboard.
There's a mountain of concept art, which I know you just looked up.
Very detailed concept art.
A lot of detailed concept art.
And we're going to be posting so much of that onto our socials.
It was even an animation test, and there were promos created for the sequel.
They were starting to animate this too.
Is this where they start going into shorts?
Because I didn't realize how many shorts there are.
The shorts?
That was kind of a way to test if someone was ready to direct a feature.
Got it.
Yeah, and it wasn't just like the choice.
Oh, right.
Because Bonnie's in.
So that's after three.
Yeah, so there's a lot of like shorts are really there for like proof of concept and
to like test if someone's ready to be a director.
How much are people still interested in this story?
Yeah.
There was also a plan for a monster's ink sequel subtitled Lost and Scaradise, where
Sully and Mike would enter into the human world to find boo.
The pitch was developed by Bob Hildenberg and Rob Murr.
They're the ones who were involved with a lot of the rewrites for the Toy Story 3 sequel.
How come we got monsters' university instead?
Lost and Scaradise is brilliant.
They're still time.
Yes, there is.
But that story wasn't picked up right away, but to keep those writers on, they're just like,
hey, we're going to have you sort.
You're still under contract.
Yeah, we're going to do like Toy Story 3 stuff with you.
There was also a plan for a finding Nemo sequel in which we meet Marlon's long lost brother
Remy, and Marlon is captured and now he needs to be rescued.
And apparently that entire script has been leaked and that might be a future episode.
Yeah, I'm kind of into that one.
As we know, because we live in the future.
We do?
These are not the Toy Story 3's that we got.
So what led up to the Toy Story 3 we got in the end?
We got writers and not the Toy Story 3, we got at home.
Pixar didn't have any of the control of the characters they created and they knew that
they would have to give them up when breaking ties with Disney.
And John Lasseter actually told everyone at Pixar, it's like you have these dear children
and you have to give them up to be adopted by a convicted child molester.
Is that a direct quote?
That is a direct quote from John Lasseter.
Yeah.
Oh dear God.
Yeah.
He broke the news to Pixar that they have to separate.
For Circle 7 animation, they were given the nickname "Pix aren't" for those who knew that
were happening.
Yep, sounds good.
All right.
Ultimately, the fate of Circle 7 happened because of a decision made by Michael Eisner.
It was the board at Disney that voted Eisner out of his role as CEO because of how he handled
the Pixar situation.
Eisner even left a year earlier than his contract allowed him to work there.
That's how we got Bob Eiger, Disney's former CEO in 2005.
Eiger knew Disney needed Pixar.
From a story told by Eiger, he stated that he was at Disneyland Hong Kong in the fall of
2005.
And he noticed that all of the characters featured in their parade, all characters that were
less than 10 years old, they were all Pixar characters.
Yeah.
I don't have to hang all the way up to this point.
In January 24th, 2006, Eiger and Steve Jobs agreed that Disney would be purchasing Pixar
for $7.4 billion with a B.
Billion.
After that, Steve Jobs would leave Pixar to pursue another little company.
I don't know if you've heard of it.
Apple?
No.
Yeah.
Never heard of it.
And then, last year, not only would the only lead Pixar, but all of Disney animation group,
which is funny because back when last year, he first started at Disney, he was fired.
To be like, we don't really know what to do with you.
Then he went off and found it was Lucasfilm at the time.
And it was like, what are you guys doing?
And then they're like, I don't know.
Trying to make some fun stuff with computers.
Okay.
Let's see what happens.
So in January 24th, 2006.
After the new agreement, Pixar would be in charge of making a new Toy Story 3.
Andrew Sam, who wrote the story for Toy Story 3, stated Pixar purposefully avoided reading
the Circle 7 scripts so they wouldn't include any elements into their film.
Directly, Uncredged said, we didn't read their scripts, not out of spite, but we wanted
to start fresh and not be influenced by what they've done.
We didn't look at any of their work that they'd done.
We really didn't want to know anything about it.
There's no way.
Now, here is where I speculate.
And why so many elements were in there?
Because over at Circle 7, they didn't know their fate.
They assumed that they would be made in charge of making all the straight to video sequels
for Pixar.
And they would keep doing their original film.
So like, they would be a separate studio.
Right.
It's just a different division, making straight to home.
That was not the case because the founder of Pixar at CapMole, who is a director,
who is in charge of Disney Animation now, he was the one that broke the news to Circle 7.
And on May 26, 2006, it was official that Circle 7 animation was officially shut down.
Now, fortunately, for most of the employees, 136 out of 168 of them were hired to the
Disney Animation Studios and Pixar.
So you have over 100 people who have been working on this.
Yeah, there's no way.
Coming in and just being like, someone had a very easy Tuesday.
And it was like, oh, submit.
Even the head of Circle 7, Andrew Milstein, he was hired as the general manager of Disney Animation
Studios.
Yeah.
He was later promoted to Executive Vice President and President of Disney Animation.
And now he sits at the Co-President of Blue Sky Studios after Disney purchased them.
So usually when we finish these episodes, it's always like on a dark note of like, man,
we really wish we could have seen that.
We're like, hard for a moment.
And in this case, this is the rarest case where like everyone seemed to win.
Yeah, actually.
Yeah, except for Eisner.
But everyone came out as a winner.
At least a large percentage of them did.
Yeah, it was only like 30 employees.
I'm sure that most, if not all of them were offered to come over and someone were just
like, well, we saw the right and on the wall.
Right.
Maybe just like went over to a different studio.
Dreamworks.
Dreamworks, WB.
I mean, we got studios all over the place.
Right, that's what you know what?
I'm just going to go somewhere else.
That studio is for?
So I think part of it was just like, I got a different offer.
So I'm just going to go.
You're right.
It's such a big win because at that time, we are pre-streaming.
Like it's definitely like starting to bubble up.
But we're past the sequel.
Like that's a weird time where like those sequels were
not popular.
No, there was an expectation with these straight to video sequels to be like, oh, it just
it's so.
Right.
The audiences had caught on that these are going to be second rate stories.
Their market was grandparents who didn't know better.
And be like, you got me trans morpher.
It's not trans formers.
That's kind of the case.
It really was for our generation to be able to be at home and like go run to blockbuster.
You didn't have to take the kids to the theater.
They already love these characters.
Yeah.
That's the idea is like, what's the next chapter?
And for parents who is like, I'm so sick of my kids watching Lion King for the 50th time
this week, there's got to be something.
And then one and a half comes down and be like, oh, breath of fresh air.
Yeah.
I burned through three little mermaid.
But yeah, that's how we got the Toy Story 3 we have today.
See, timing matters.
And we know that Toy Story 5 is going to destroy us.
I think one through three really were a beautiful, complete story.
Like rewatching it the other night, I was like, oh, like there is that moment where they
hold hands and close their eyes.
And like there are very few movies that do that where you are like, are they gonna?
And I'm like, this is a children's movie.
Yeah.
They get saved.
And I remember being in theaters and having like this audible like from everyone.
I don't really remember the plot of four too much other than like, don't we leave Woody
and Bo Peep behind?
Like they separate the group.
I think Bo Peep gets left behind.
Woody stays with Bo Peep.
Like Buzz and Woody separate.
I have to rewatch that movie.
My point exactly.
There's no destroying heartbreak for me.
It's too little too late for Bo Peep.
Yeah.
I don't know if you've ever seen, there was a video of someone showing their mom Toy Story
3 for the first time.
And they re-edited the ending and the toys like they're all holding hands are going down
to the incinerator.
It cuts to black and it goes directed by Lee Ungritch.
And she was like, what?
Oh, I don't know.
Oh, man.
I don't like it.
Yeah, I rewatched it and I just like remember that moment.
I was like, oh, what's the whole character?
That's horrible.
Oh my god.
That parent raised a Sid.
It is nice to have a win after so many like, oh my god, these poor people.
I actually feel good about this.
Yeah.
Worth it.
Yep.
And I'm sure these writers got paid for like submitting their drafts.
Hopefully.
And that was it for Toy Story 3 Part 2, the recall script, the many buzzes.
Buzz is a galore.
Buzz on buzz on buzz.
And now we're going to move on to our favorite part of the episode, the recommendations.
You go first this time.
I'm going to go first.
So the movie that I'm going to recommend is called Pete's a Movie.
I don't know this.
Pete's a movie if you has a getting Mar-to-ruzy, Mar-to-ruzy?
Oh, yes, of Stranger Things.
Of Stranger Things.
The reason why I'm recommending it is because of the directors, it's Nicotia and Brian McElaney.
So if you don't know, they were part of a sketch group that I watched a lot in college called
Britannic.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
And like one of my favorite sketches that they did, they love messing with like continuity
and like whatnot.
But there's one where like, they're accidentally in a porno.
And two friends come over and they're just like, hey, do you want a pizza?
And it's like, hmm, pizza seems nice and be like, yeah, it's extra sausage.
And he's like, what was it?
He's like, I don't know.
Where are my pants?
I don't know what's going on.
I'm going to go home.
Oh my God.
It is a fantastic sketch.
But the fact that these-
With Sweet Sweet Dustin in it?
Oh, no, no, he's not in this.
Oh, okay.
He is a child?
No.
Like knowing their sense of humor from their sketch comedy days, like to see that in
a full movie is great.
And like they break the fourth wall.
They like, they mess with formatting and you can tell like they had a lot of fun with it.
And you can tell like, their humor isn't just making jokes.
Like their humor is in the visuals.
Your humor is in the plotting of the movie.
And I think that is something unique that you don't necessarily see in comedies, in comedies
that feels like you just have to have a writer who can just make good jokes.
These guys are like, they are funny and they are filmmakers.
And I think the blend of those two are done really well.
So go ahead, check out Pete's movie.
That was good.
That made me want to see it.
It makes me think of the fact that like currently scary movie is out and growing up with
I love Lucy.
Like there's always been a sort of really good comedy duo that can mix filmmaking and comedy.
And while scary movie was a very nostalgic thing for us, I'm very curious as to what
today's version of that is and this sort of sounds like that could be in that category.
Oh yeah.
Oh me, that's me.
I am going to recommend something I haven't seen though but I'm very excited to go see.
Okay.
Is stop that train.
Oh, yeah.
I saw 85 on Rotten Tomatoes.
If you're wondering what's up the train is about.
RuPaul is the president of the United States.
It's basically airplane meets RuPaul's Drag Race.
Yeah, in like-
Say more.
And everyone casts in the movie is either drag queens or just fans of RuPaul.
Rachel Blin.
It seemed like when RuPaul was like, I'm going to make a movie.
Everyone just came out of the woodworks and be like, I want it.
Yes please.
Can I?
So like it is chock full of like everyone.
Yeah, I'm pretty jazzed.
That's my recommendation.
Especially like I'm also excited like disclosure days coming out.
I love a big tent pole franchise I do but in this mildly optimistic turn we are in I
think in order to keep that turn going we need to go see the smaller creative movies to
kind of be like, this is what we want.
So go see this go today but also go see stop that train.
Go see stop that train.
Stop that train.
Yeah.
And then I'll do it for us again like I mentioned in part one of Toy Story.
I don't know what the social media handles are has something to do with development purgatory.
I've explained the name change already but find us you'll find it.
Yeah and if you're already following us great you don't have to do a thing.
We're still going to put out the same content that we have been doing before and then I'll
do it for Toy Story 3.
See you next week.
And go see Toy Story 5.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I think there's only really one way we can end this.
Oh, I've got it.
Yeah.
(laughs)