1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 ♪ Entertain me, entertain me, right now ♪ 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,160 Hello, and thank you for spending time 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,320 with the Pop Culture Junkie podcast. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,680 I am Shauna, and I am here with Olivia. 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,480 And we have a lot to talk about. 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,520 A lot of stuff is happening. 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,840 A lot of stuff is the nice way to put it. 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,760 A lot of very, very bad stuff. 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,120 Yeah, not a lot of it's good, but we are here. 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,400 And speech is still free for, you know, now. 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,320 And so let's keep Pamela and carry the fuck on, Malah. 12 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,720 Too soon, too soon. 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,600 Also, that was very marvel of you in the beginning. 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,520 I'm like, "But we are here." 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,760 It's all night from my hero academia 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,160 and whenever he shows up, he goes, "Oh, yeah, man." 17 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:45,840 And everyone's like, "Yeah, it's all night." 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:46,560 If only. 19 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,160 If only, all night was here right now. 20 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:48,800 Yeah. 21 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,240 Yeah. 22 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,120 So how's life? 23 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,680 Well, well, as I told my hairstylist 24 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,080 yesterday when I got my hair dark as my soul, it looks beautiful. 25 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,880 Thank you. 26 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,600 Thank you that I've been crying on and off all week. 27 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,680 And she asked, "Why would happen?" 28 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,200 I said, "The horrors." 29 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,880 And then you gestured vaguely around you and said, "You know, the horrors instrument." 30 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,360 Yep. 31 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,080 Totally got it. 32 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:12,800 Totally got it. 33 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,360 And then I made the good critical, I don't know. 34 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,320 It was a good movie, but the mistake of watching 35 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:23,200 the Aubrey Plaza movie, "My Old As." 36 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,640 You shit. 37 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,520 See, I don't know if I want to watch it because 38 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,840 they don't look alike to me in the promos. 39 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,840 To me, 39 is an old. 40 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:32,880 Yeah. 41 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:33,760 But I don't know. 42 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,560 Should I watch it? 43 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,840 She's 18, like the young version of her is 18. 44 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,880 And then she comes and visits her at 39. 45 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,520 "Fold my eyes out." 46 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,680 It's so good. 47 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,040 It's so sad. 48 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,080 It's such like a coming of age, like love story. 49 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,560 And like I was watching it with my mom, 50 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,600 there's a lot of stuff with like your mom and appreciating your mom. 51 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Just a weep, you know. 52 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,440 That's how you need to get to Rob it in. 53 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,280 Sorry to rub it in for having a mom. 54 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,960 What's that like? 55 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,840 That's it. 56 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,200 And it was like, 57 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:14,560 there's this part where she's like about to leave for Seattle and move. 58 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:20,960 And all this stuff, and I just went like, "Mom and I was like, yeah, no, it was so good." 59 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,240 I told my friend that I'm never taking another movie wreck from her. 60 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:30,400 I'm like, "Because I literally cried so hard and I had done fabulous makeup that day." 61 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,240 It was like good for doing your makeup since last two days. 62 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,200 Because I am not. 63 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,160 I feel horrible, but I can look good on the outside. 64 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,840 And that's been what I've been trying to tell myself. 65 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,840 But I had like a dark purple makeup on and I'm just like crying and I'm trying so hard. 66 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,640 I'm trying to get my hair done. 67 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:52,320 I'm trying to get my hair done. 68 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,520 I'm trying to get my hair done. 69 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,520 I'm trying to get my hair done. 70 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:56,720 I'm trying to get my hair done. 71 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,080 I'm trying to get my hair done. 72 00:02:58,080 --> 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Yeah, she's like, 128 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:08,160 here's a shot of Grand Marnier I don't do it. Let's do it. Things were needed you were working for 129 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:14,240 like six a.m. yeah, tall working is hard that party at like 10 p.m. yeah, I worked a long day and 130 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:22,320 I snuck in like one car. And as the night went on and it got clearer and clearer that it was not 131 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,480 gonna go the way that we wanted it to I mean, okay, one three nine past and then we all went 132 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:34,640 yeah, and then we're like okay, now like like oh god, oh god, oh god, and we were invited to like 133 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:41,520 an after party and all of us just met. I'm gonna go home. I want to be in my jam jam so well. 134 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:50,800 I went home and was like, I'm gonna need a bar bit you it. Mixing my uppers and my downers. 135 00:04:51,520 --> 00:05:00,000 But culture junkie does not can do it. I did make Andrew stop on the way. Oh, but I got a 136 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:06,480 bottle of red wine. Yeah, I feel like they're gonna be celebrating or lamenting. And I wept and he 137 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:13,200 held me in the next day. I want to feel to be love. Oh my god, you had your mother to love you. 138 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,000 I have that husband to love me. I guess you will equal. It's fair. Can I borrow your mother and you 139 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:24,320 can borrow my husband? I think that's fine. Okay, fair. Sorry, Andrew. Can I still borrow your mom? 140 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:31,920 Yes, yes, you can borrow my mom. She would love to help me. Yes. And then the next day I woke up and I was 141 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:39,120 like I cried enough. I need something like I need to just comfort and take care of myself all day. 142 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:45,680 So Andrew made a nice like MX pot of good coffee. It was a nice chilly morning. So I just went out 143 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:51,440 in the patio and was just like I felt like a shell of a human like I cried as much as I could. And then 144 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,240 I go inside and I was like, what do I need that will make me feel better in this of Buffy the vampire's 145 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:06,080 layer? So I watched some Buffy. Yeah, you know, I had a man who must not be named who left a dog 146 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,960 with me who was watching Buffy with me at the time. So I haven't been able to watch Buffy in two years 147 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:18,480 because it reminds me of it so much. He left Ziggy with no penny. Oh, but we were made Buffy binge 148 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,280 whenever he disappeared without a trace. I don't know if the podcast knows this lower. So I haven't 149 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:29,440 been able to watch Buffy again since then, but I should revisit it. Yeah, do not associate Buffy with 150 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:35,280 it's on him associated with me. We'll do something stupid during an episode of Buffy or something. 151 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:40,080 Iconic Buffy episodes, but I can't start it from the beginning. Let's start from the beginning and 152 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,280 I will go over to your house and like run around naked or like shit in your floor. And then you'll never be 153 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:54,720 able to watch me. She's really really my dear time. I'm a great shot. I'm turning into a feral beast. 154 00:06:54,720 --> 00:07:00,720 I'll stop his donating. My floor, my rental. The man who ghosted me and left a dog with me after that. 155 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:07,920 Yeah, she was a good dog and then she died. Sorry, sorry, listen. This is where we're at. This 156 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,880 episode is going to be like remember we were both abandoned. Let's talk about our trauma. 157 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:23,840 But Buffy, you're your ex my dead mom. It's great. My dead dog. Your dead dog. I can get my people 158 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:33,520 listen to this podcast. Everything is fine. We're doing it's fine. Everything's great. But on that note, 159 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:41,840 segue to topic. Okay, you know, at the hard times, we've always found ourselves leaning on the 160 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:49,600 women around lives. Exactly. Is what we actually want to discuss today and just, you know, this podcast is 161 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:58,720 inclusive to all gender, sexualities, ethnicities. The girls gaze in days are united. We do this for 162 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:06,240 the girls, gots and gaze, baby. Yes. And we wanted to talk a little bit about feminism and what it 163 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:13,680 means to us, what the history is and really how we have persisted through so many years of hard times, 164 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:24,480 even in times like this. So even through this election, we're not going to see our first woman 165 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:32,800 president yet. I still hold my heart that there will be a fucking female president. Yes. Women still 166 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:38,880 matter shocking. And we can see that in the media and in pop culture, is there equal representations 167 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:44,240 between all gender, sexualities and ethnicities? No. But we have seen that change for the better 168 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:52,800 in some recent years. And a big reason for that is my favorite f word. Feminism. No, that is not a 169 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:58,960 dirty word. It's thanks to the various feminist movements of the last 100 in years or so that we 170 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:04,720 have rights that we do and still have for now. And the fact that representation in the media has become 171 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,760 more diverse and authentic because it wasn't that long ago that it really wasn't. So we're going to 172 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:17,200 look back on how feminism and pop culture so to speak. So we're going to go kind of decade by decade 173 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:23,360 here for a little bit and just talk about that intersection of pop culture and feminism. The 1910s 174 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:33,120 of the 1920s. First wave feminism made its mass media. It's needed. Okay. The people need it. The 175 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:39,360 people. I needed it. I needed it. Keep going. 1913. The women's suffrage parade in Washington, 176 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:48,880 DC generates unprecedented media coverage. 1920. Lappers and mergers cultural icons challenging the 177 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:56,720 Victorian gender norms through fashion and the behavior. 1927. The release of wings which I looked 178 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:04,240 into in as a action movie about airplanes. Features clara bow as the it girl representing a new female 179 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:11,920 independent. And if you are a swifty or you've just listened to me speak ever. Clare Boe is 180 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:17,600 done that. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently whoever is listening to this podcast is too. Clare Boe is actually 181 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:23,840 referenced in the tortured poets department. Oh, love that. And it's actually called Clare Boe. 182 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:35,760 And the song. Yeah. Yeah. And so she is the most iconic kind of early 1920s actress. She's, 183 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:41,920 as you mentioned, where we get the term it girl. But it's truly been just an icon throughout the 184 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:47,440 years. I think Stevie next Taylor Swift. Yeah. That's kind of the theme of song and them going through 185 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:53,120 it. So. Yes. And obviously the 1910s and 20s we talk about like flapper isn't like first wave feminism. 186 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:59,120 And this throughout history is going to be predominantly white women. Yep. So we do realize that that 187 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:06,080 the 1910s and 20s are not the same for everybody. Yes. Experience. Yes. As we know, then we really 188 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:13,280 run into the 1940s to the 1950s World War II and then the post war period. The most iconic imagery 189 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:18,880 that you're going to think of and see within this time of course is Rosie the Riveter poster. 190 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:24,800 She becomes a cultural phenomenon. Of course, the only reason that we started letting women work 191 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,720 is because all the men were off to war and they had to and then when the men came back, they said, 192 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,800 "Oh, those women don't need to anymore. Go on and go back into the kitchen." A lot of them just 193 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:38,640 tried and fought to stay in the workplace. Of course, they're like, "Could we are actually good at 194 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,920 this?" Yeah. Enjoy this. Yeah. They couldn't keep their own big accounts. But we still, you know, 195 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:51,440 that was kind of the beginning of women in the workplace in 1949. Simone de Bouvoirs, the second sex 196 00:11:51,440 --> 00:12:00,240 influences popular discourse. In 1953, we have the launch of Playboy magazine, Hugh Hefner, 197 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:06,640 and Sparks debate about objectification versus liberation, which is still going on to the day. 198 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:15,520 Which, very fun fact, did you know that he bought Marilyn Monroe's pin-up photos without her concern? 199 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:22,080 Yeah. Was the first cover? Did she not consent to that being the cover? No. Oh, damn. I've seen 200 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:27,120 that very famous. She's like on a rub, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's how it got started. 201 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,920 That feels like objectification. Well, that's Marilyn's life for you. Yeah. That's really 202 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,800 cool. Marilyn, but Marilyn's life for you. Yeah. And then in 1955, we arose a parks, a rasp, which 203 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:42,000 highlights intersection of civil rights and the women's rights movement. Exactly. The 1960s 204 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,840 brought about second-wave feminism. So in 1963, we have Betty for Dan's, the feminine mystique, 205 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:53,840 which became a bestseller. 1966, the formation of the national organization for women, also known 206 00:12:53,840 --> 00:13:00,800 as Now, which still existed this day. Hire me, I think you my resume. Please hire me. 207 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:08,400 1968, Miss America protests sparks bra, burning mythology in media. I love the bra, burning stuff. 208 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:15,120 Everybody watching us on camera, I have a tattoo of a burning bra on my arm. I just love that. 209 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:22,480 And then 1969, nice. Our bodies ourselves and credible book was published revolutionizing women's 210 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:30,560 health discourse. We're still there. And we are still there. Imagine that women of health needs 211 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:38,480 today need taken care of and legal access to. In 1971, we have Miz magazine launching in 1972, 212 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:45,440 title nine passes leading to increased representation of women in sports media. Another thing, we're 213 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:54,080 still struggling with. Yes. Yes. I love it. Back to when our parents were still doing 214 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:59,600 the things. We have the iconic Rocky Horror picture show challenging gender norms, which 215 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:08,000 come in 1975 in 1977, free to be you and me by Marlowe Thomas promotes gender equality. 216 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:16,240 And in 1979, Margaret Thatcher becomes UK Prime Minister, sparking media discussions about women in 217 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:22,240 power. That's so funny. Media discussions. Could a woman really lead? Oh my gosh. 218 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:29,760 No, they have a queen. Right. She's really lead. She just kind of sticks knives and decades. 219 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:36,000 Yeah. And that's corkies. Yeah. Yes. The 1980s that working woman era. 220 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:44,000 So not only pardon exactly that is literally the first note is 1989 to five highlights workplace 221 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:51,600 sexism. 1983 Madonna emerges as a controversial figure. A controversial figure. But she released 222 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:57,520 that book in what the 80s or 90s to all about sex. Yes. What was it called? What was a documentary? 223 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,320 It was like a tabletop book too. Madonna's movie was truth or dare, which I've never seen. The 224 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,800 documentary. But I bet it's sexy. It's really good. It has a lot of gay representation. 225 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:15,200 But there's a lot of gay clubs. I mean, yeah. Bush. Bush and gay. Not George Bush, but 226 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:21,600 I've got like Bush, Bush, Bush, the better Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush. 227 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:27,360 1984 Geraldine Ferreros vice president domination generates widespread media coverage. 228 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:33,440 And then in 1988 Murphy Brown debuts featuring a single career woman protagonist. 229 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:40,720 Imagine that. Then we get head into the 1990s with girl power and third with Batman. 230 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:45,760 And then what I grew up with. Yes. Spice Girls, baby power. 231 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:54,400 So in 1991, we have the famous Anita Hill testimony, which brings workplace harassment into 232 00:15:54,400 --> 00:16:01,120 the national spotlight. Fuck you, Claire. It's literally. We both deep sigh. 233 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:10,640 If only if only people believe women imagine what we would be dealing with. Imagine. Just imagine. 234 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:17,920 Imagine. Imagine. Imagine. In 1992, we have the year the woman in American politics. 235 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,920 Come out. I don't know why that made me laugh. 236 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:26,800 We're just if we don't laugh. If we don't laugh, we cry. Literally. 237 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:33,520 In 1994, we have the right girl movement peaks combining punk rock and feminist ideologies. 238 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:39,200 I love right girl music, dude. I listened to so much. I have a whole playlist that I listened to whenever 239 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:45,680 I'm on my way to political advocacy events. And yes, fucking bumped. I listened to it with you in the car. 240 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:51,760 Yes. And it was very happy. In 1996, the Spice Girls popularized the girl power message. 241 00:16:51,760 --> 00:17:00,240 And in 1998, sex in the city debuts, sparking discussions about female sexuality. 242 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:09,440 Actually, in my gender study class, I wrote a paper about how each character of sex in the city 243 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:15,760 really represents different female tropes and all of those things. And I think it was the maiden 244 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:21,840 the horror, like the Madonna versus Horde. Yeah. And the different types of women that are allowed 245 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:31,680 and accepted but still sexualized. And so I think HBO created an amazing show to really represent 246 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:38,400 the change in women the way they were thinking, what it looked like to be 30 and be sexy. 247 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:45,040 And still it's their own person while Charlotte is obsessed with getting married. I love sex in 248 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:50,320 the city because you see someone like Samantha who. And they're still friends. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. 249 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,640 And it is like, I mean, we've talked about that show so much on the podcast, but it's like a 250 00:17:54,640 --> 00:18:00,000 a moment in time, obviously, and it has its flaws. But for what it was when it first came out, 251 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:07,760 it was revolutionary 100%. The 2000s digital age feminism. So in 2002, we have Eve Insler's 252 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:14,000 the vagina monologues, which became a global phenomenon, which I've never seen. I actually 253 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:19,840 haven't, but I know it as, you know, Ben Shapiro's worst freaking nightmare. Oh my god. That's for sure. 254 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:28,640 Of course. 2006 social media platforms enable new forms of feminist activism. In 2008, 2008. Oh my 255 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:35,440 god. Hillary Clinton ran for president in 2008 before Obama. She, she was trying to get the 256 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:40,640 Democratic. I know I totally forgot. It just feels like so long ago. Oh my god. We hated women 257 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,880 forever. Oh my god. I remember that. Actually, yeah, that was the first election I ever voted in. 258 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:50,240 Now that I think about it. Yes. Hillary Clinton ran for president. I would say primary. In the 259 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:56,000 primary, yes, she lost to Barack Obama, which was Obama. It's obviously a revolutionary candidate. 260 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,520 2009 Lady Gaga emerges as a voice for gender and identity politics. And we love that. We love 261 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:08,800 little monsters. Yes. Little monster. And then we enter into a term. We've probably heard quite 262 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:17,760 often fourth wave feminism and social media. In 2011, we have Beyonce with her iconic run the world 263 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:28,160 girls becomes our feminist anthem. In 2013, the launch of the lean in movement by Cheryl Sandberg comes 264 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:36,400 out. Now I feel like today, there is a lot of push back against lean in. I do think that Cheryl Sandberg 265 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:43,440 is an amazing CEO and woman, I figure with in business and with in tech and has a lot of value 266 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:50,640 that she can provide and to have grown up like her Ted talk is really, really good. I haven't 267 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,480 watched it. I don't think I've got that. Yeah. That of you. Yeah. Her Ted talk is really, really good. 268 00:19:54,480 --> 00:20:01,040 But for her to move her way up in such a tech driven world, I do think she is worth giving her 269 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:08,480 flowers to even if she's not a perfect person. In 2015, Emma Watson's key for she campaign, she 270 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:15,600 collaborated with the UN deeply. Really became an advocate for women and just overall. 271 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:27,040 In 2017, we had the. Me to movement transform into a global phenomenon. I think we still see it today. 272 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:33,840 Yeah. A lot of backlash to it today, which is awful. I remember when that first came out and 273 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:38,560 everybody using that hashtag and everyone just kind of like you see it on as somebody's wall and 274 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:45,600 you're like a fuck you too. That's what it is. Me too. Yeah. I think it really came for the movie 275 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:51,520 industry. Not every Weinstein for sure. Not necessarily within the music industry in the way 276 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:56,880 that we would want to. It was definitely a movie. We're starting to see that a lot more now with 277 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:04,480 everything coming out with Diddy. Yeah. But hopefully we continue to expose abusers and believe 278 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:10,480 women. 100%. That kind of goes into the next one too by the need me to move my hand. Yeah. 279 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:16,000 And then in 2018, we have the Times up movement, which launches into the entertainment industry. 280 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:24,720 Unfortunately, it was a lot of talk and we're still seeing a lot of abuse happening within these 281 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:31,760 industries and a lot of people still glorifying individuals around this. Like if you I don't know 282 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:37,520 if you saw the history of violence with Chris Brown that just got released and all of these things. 283 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:44,560 But in 2019, a record, a record number of women in Congress generate media attention with their 284 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:51,040 me two stories. Yes. And just entering into Congress and politics in general, trying to smash that 285 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:58,160 glass ceiling, pushing back the 2020. So where we are now, contemporary developments that we're seeing 286 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:03,120 in 2020, Kamala Harris did become the first female vice president, which I think is something that 287 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:09,360 doesn't get enough. And firstly, first female president for 40 minutes. That's true. We did discuss 288 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:14,640 this last night. Kamala Harris was president for 40 minutes. Well, Joe Biden had a colonoscopy. 289 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:23,520 We did it, ladies. We did feminism assault racism done. We did it, Joe. We did it, Joe, for 40 minutes. 290 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:32,400 40 minutes. 2021. Growing focus on intersectional feminism and media started to rise. In 2023, 291 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:38,720 the Barbie movie sparks discussions about feminism and consumerism. And we have an episode on 292 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:44,720 the Barbie movie. And it's actually our most into episode that we've ever had. 293 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,560 Is that funny? I mean, I guess it makes sense because it's just such a global phenomenon. 294 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:54,160 And people were calling it feminism 101, which honestly, I think is fine. If it's going to be an 295 00:22:54,160 --> 00:23:00,720 intro to people, I like, I have to keep telling myself, not other people are as entrenched as the 296 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,200 feminist movement in politics as, you know, I am or other people might be. And that's fine. Yes. 297 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:12,320 If the, you know, the Barbie movie was like, okay, feminism light, that's I think I think that episode 298 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:19,120 we really go into the controversy at the time. And kind of the left and the right discussions 299 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:23,280 argument. So I definitely recommend checking that out. I still want to think of the men. Yeah, 300 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,920 if you have not listened to it, it's a great one. We really go into it. And we have a lot of fun 301 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,640 in that as well. I love that movie. I want to name some of my favorite feminist pieces of 302 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,640 pop culture. So we're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, we'll talk about some key 303 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:42,640 themes at the intersection of pop culture and feminism as well as our favorite female representations 304 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:53,360 in pop culture. So we both wore t-shirts today that represents some of our favorite feminist 305 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:59,600 and pop culture and just female led movies and TV shows. I have Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Of course, 306 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:05,920 she's my girl. And that kind of came out during the 90s when we talked about the girl power third wave 307 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:13,760 feminism. Buffy represented you can be a girly girl and you know, date boys and wear skirts, 308 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:19,120 but then also fight the forces of evil, right? Women are complicated. There can be many sides to us. 309 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:24,320 Yes. Which I think like the themes still carry on to this day. And again, it's a moment in time 310 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,640 in the show does have some parts that haven't aged as well as others, but overall like, 311 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:34,800 greatest TV show of all time. No, no, yes. I agree. And I have the craft, which is one of the, 312 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:44,320 I would say earlier representations of goth culture. Yeah. And just complex nuanced female characters 313 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:50,880 who aren't only evil. They've experienced abuse that lead them to like this decision making and 314 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,280 all these things. Honestly, I love watching. Right. I just rewatched it over Halloween and I realized 315 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,920 that too. It's like you can say that Nancy's just a villain, but she's also going through abuse at 316 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:06,480 home and obviously struggles with confidence as like all of the women do and learn their lessons. 317 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:13,120 And the end. Yeah. We talked about sex in the city and you know, how it's represented feminism at 318 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:20,720 the time and just like that, which kind of dropped the ball during it's a Tim set kind of being a 319 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:26,320 little more intersectional with its feminism. I do think that there is much to be said about the 320 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:33,760 intersection of like we are culture and feminism. So we get shows where we see more trans women 321 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:39,840 represented more black women, obviously women of color taking the wheel, which is amazing. I'm trying 322 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:46,160 to think of more of like everything I watch, I feel like it's kind of like a female. I need that. 323 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:51,120 And we grew up with Disney princesses, right? Who were in the early days all having to be saved by 324 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:55,760 the prince. And then during the 90s kind of came out with that girl power again, Mulan, 325 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:02,080 Pocahontas, kind of. Yeah. Then we had Frozen who the sisters saved each other. 326 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:08,000 Yeah. I didn't find husbands. Right. Like the main focus of that wasn't the romance. Same with 327 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:14,160 Moana, right? And I see the pushback from the right and from men sometimes that they say, 328 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:20,960 Oh gosh. Like now that even the female Eminem can't be sexy anymore. And all these movies are 329 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:27,520 about female empowerment. So is that the right thing? Okay, Tucker Carlson. Let us know you have an 330 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:34,880 Eminem King. You can't fuck this. It's fine. It's fine. You can just be into Eminem. It's fine. 331 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,680 It's fine, bro. It's fine. Only your conservatives are going to judge you. Well, 332 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,400 well, once you repent, you could fuck a bowl of him. And yeah. 333 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:52,000 You've just, you know, joined the furry community. That'll accept you. Get a furry little Eminem. 334 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:59,280 Oh my god. You know, I hate that pushback that we see. And it goes on decade after decade where 335 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:04,400 no matter what advancement, feminism and the female rights movement seems to get, it's like 336 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,680 there's someone there to be like, Oh, God, they're going to go to work. And then, Oh, God, we're going 337 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,520 to let them vote. Well, that was before going to work. And oh, God, now we're going to let like 338 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,400 black women vote and go to work in Hispanic women. And oh, my God. Now the trans women, 339 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:25,040 when will it stop? Like, yeah, it was interesting. Actually, I saw a quote from Stevie Nex. The first 340 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:32,400 time she ever voted was this election, actually. And I think of Stevie Nex as someone who is so 341 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:40,640 feminist, so powerful, so witchy, right? And she said one of her deepest regrets is not voting. And so, 342 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:48,640 you know, I think they're, you know, doing it now. Yeah. I think there is so much in our history of 343 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:55,440 women being pushed down and less educated and things like that where, even the opportunities to be 344 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,160 able to educate themselves, like we weren't able to take out credit cards until the 70s. We weren't 345 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:06,640 able to divorce our husbands until like the 70s as well. Like go to college, get degrees, 346 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:12,480 things like that. So it was just like you said, being pushed down. Yeah. Yeah. I think that, you 347 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:19,120 know, despite where we may be going back to, we look at this timeline that we just gave there 348 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:23,440 is so much growth for women. It's nice to read it when it's all laid out like that. Yeah. 349 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:30,320 When we're having like, I feel for obviously we've both been mourning for the past week or so. 350 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,240 I don't know when this will come out, but at this point, Donald Trump will be inaugurated as 351 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,040 the next president. And that terrifies me. And I know that terrifies a lot of women, especially 352 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:46,640 women of color who like have been leading the charge dude, like voting overwhelmingly opposed to him. 353 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,360 And I know that leaves us all scared. And so it's nice to kind of look back on how far we've come and 354 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,960 see where we have to go with that. Let's talk about some kind of like key themes throughout history 355 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,800 where we see the intersection of feminism and pop culture. First, I'll talk about media 356 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,120 representation of women. So the evolution of female characters in film and television, 357 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:11,360 where it starts. I mean, you think back to like, I love Lucy Roy and she's the doding housewife. 358 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:16,960 And obviously she's hilarious. And I think she's a feminist. I'm leading her own show. She has a 359 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:22,160 friend who comes over. She can be sassy with her husband, but they're definitely sleeping in 360 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:29,680 the separate beds. And she has to wear the makeup and the dresses every day and is very distinct 361 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:39,600 gender roles. And I was looking at old clips yesterday of Bewitch. Yes. And where Darren is talking to 362 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:46,240 Samantha. That's the her name, right? Samantha the way to Samantha's mom. And 363 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,400 he's like, well, I think that she'll be just fine if she doesn't use her witchcraft. And she's 364 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,640 just going to be a normal lady. And her mom's like, why are you trying to stifle her? Shouldn't you 365 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,200 love her for who she really is? And he just wants her to be a normal wife who stays home and cooks and 366 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:08,560 cleans. And somebody commented that like Bewitch and I dream of Jeannie, which are such fun shows. 367 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:15,040 Kind of represent like the male fantasy where you can marry this secretly powerful sexy woman. 368 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:21,040 But with you, she's just going to be a regular broad who wants to talk about babies and cooking 369 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,920 planes. So no one knows that she's secretly powerful, but you. And I never really thought about it 370 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:31,600 that way. And then you know, throughout the 90s and 2000s, we kind of have the in 80s that 371 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:39,120 don't be husband with like the really hot white one. So the Simpsons and Family Guy and all of that. 372 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:48,240 And married with children, right? Yeah. Where oh, you don't worry. I'll take care of you, which was 373 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:54,560 made fun of and Kevin can fuck himself. I've seen it, but I really want to watch the first season. 374 00:30:54,560 --> 00:31:01,600 And I really like it. And it goes kind of on that trope where the silly man child husband gets 375 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,800 away with the most absurd things while she's just left pick up the pieces. Yeah. And then I know 376 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:13,040 we've mentioned this on another episode, but like desperate housewives where we were allowing like 377 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:20,960 complex women with children over a certain age to be portrayed and complicated and you know, 378 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,760 nuanced and in all these things. They have flaws, but they're likeable, but they are also 379 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:33,440 dislikeable. And like weeds, she is a single mom who sells weed. I love the first couple seasons. 380 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,760 Yeah. Then I got bad. Then I got bad. The first couple seasons. Yeah. Gold. 381 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:45,120 And then we see shows where there's a male main character who everybody roots for and then everybody 382 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,080 just hates the woman for some reason. Yeah. Like I think breaking bad is one of the best television 383 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:55,520 shows of all time. Yeah. The hate the skylar white. Yeah. It makes no sense. It makes no sense. 384 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,120 If you just like take a step back. Well, it does because we're here. But we're here. We are. 385 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,280 Her husband's literally lying to her and cooking meth. Like if you think about it, 386 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:10,560 of course she's going to be pissed at him. Yeah. And then she kind of goes along with it for a while. 387 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:17,680 Like what do you want from her? Yeah. Anyway, oh, France. Yeah. Changing portrayals and advertising. So 388 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:23,040 you know, those commercials back in the day. Like my husband loves it when I use 389 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:30,400 and love soap. Oh, I got this kind of egg so I can make breakfast for the whole family. And in the 390 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,760 90s, you see a lot of diet commercials where it's like, oh, I lost 10 pounds to using special 391 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:42,720 gay cereal. Now it's and to age backwards. Yeah. It's like a 12 year old. Exactly. Before it was I'm 392 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:50,160 not fat anymore. Now it's, oh, look, I'm 12. He wants me. Yeah. And women's voices and journalism 393 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,960 and publishing have definitely changed over the years too. We've definitely seen a lot more. I mean, 394 00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:02,400 Barbara Walters, of course. And dance. Yeah. And Oprah, honestly. And maybe correct. Yeah. 395 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:10,320 Ricky Lake. Yeah. Ricky likes a delight on Instagram, by the way. I don't know. Yeah. She's delightful. 396 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:17,680 Yeah. So yeah. And then we move into the music industry. And you know, female musicians are the 397 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:25,040 top settlers in every category. I mean, especially when it comes to pop music, like men not making good 398 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:31,680 music. Non original thought. Not original. Yeah. Come on. Hot girl. Hot girl brat summer for 399 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:39,040 it. Yes. We're on the airs tour, high scrocing tour, which is why all of you then hate her. You know, 400 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:48,800 you have Charlie X, the X and Troy, so fun, a gay man and a lovely British woman just crushing it. 401 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,560 And you know, men step it up, right? Something original. 402 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:59,360 Something good. Yeah. Dance. Yeah. I don't even care if you want to dance. Like I like, we used to be 403 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,000 seen kids, like just make something good. Make something good. Make something good. Bring up the emo 404 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,360 music. I do love that there is an absolute take down of Zach Bryan happening right now. 405 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:15,600 Is he a country singer? He is a country singer. And he treated this thing. And it was like Kanye 406 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:21,520 over Taylor Swift, Eagles over chiefs, like, and it's one of their thing or whatever. And 407 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:28,800 guys, literally, yeah, it's like anti-symmetism over a. Oh, but, but he also just it's been exposed that 408 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,480 he would just abused his girlfriend, like terribly over the watch. The swifty's found that he has 409 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:40,960 stolen a lot of like the the beats from Taylor Swift songs. And you know that woman's looked at 410 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,160 just and I'm like, oh, honey, your most popular songs. They're all of his most popular songs. So 411 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:53,040 Hey, Jay. Hey, who is that other Morgan Wallen? Thank you. You knew exactly where I was going. 412 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:59,680 Who threw like a cherry on it. Also, dude, he's a piece of shit. Yeah. I mean, I do want to talk about 413 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,160 fashion and body image a little bit and just kind of the changing beauty standards. I know we've 414 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:10,160 talked about that a lot. It's impossible to keep up with what society and the media and pop culture 415 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,600 tells us our bodies are supposed to look like right. And so I think that's important nuance take. 416 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,360 And we've seen a lot more women, especially in like the Instagram and TikTok age. 417 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:25,520 Social media can be toxic as hell, right? But at the same time, I have I find joy in watching 418 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,880 the women who are like, I really don't care if you think this is what I look good in or if this 419 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,920 is flattering to you. This is what I want to wear. This is what makes me happy. I will shape my hair 420 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:42,000 and dye my hair. Yeah, there's a lot bigger. The discussion of like dressing for the female gaze. 421 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:48,960 Versus the male gaze. Yeah. Unfortunately, unfortunately, there's still a lot of women who can't 422 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,600 erase that from their minds. Yeah, which is difficult to deal with. And I think a lot of like internalized 423 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:59,360 misogyny. Like we're top from a young age that we're supposed to look pretty for the boys. And 424 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,480 just a certain way. So you'll find us. He's way into you because he likes you, which is bullshit. 425 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,840 And then that kind of goes into this next one. It should the digital influence. So social media 426 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:16,400 activism, online feminist communities, I'm really it helped grow my feminist like activism. 427 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:23,760 Finding grades and marches and protests on Facebook events and getting really involved in 428 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:30,320 Instagram communities and following influencers like this great influencer named deja Fox 429 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:38,480 who stood up to Jeff Flake years ago. And now she is a feminist influencer. Yeah, she's from Arizona. 430 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:44,880 Just incredible. So as toxic as it can be, I think it can be. Yeah, you know, really empowering to 431 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:54,800 especially for women. Yeah, absolutely. Well, before we wrap up, what is one feminist piece of media 432 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,600 that you want to recommend someone to watch? Yeah, those are going to be our pops this week. We're going 433 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:06,480 to through all of the the darkness. I think that it's you know, that's why we wanted to do this 434 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,880 episode. Why it's so important to see how far we've come to talk about how far we need to go. 435 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:16,640 We still need to increase our activism when it comes to women of color. We still need to break that 436 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:22,000 glass ceiling of having a woman in charge and there's a lot to be said about trans women and, you 437 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,520 know, native women and the violence that they all face. So there's a long way to go, but I hope that 438 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,560 this kind of makes people feel a little more hopeful that we've come so far. So the pop culture we're 439 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:39,680 going to recommend today is going to kind of add to that. So I am going to pop a movie called The James. 440 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,480 It's a documentary that came out in 2022. The synopsis is an a free, 441 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,800 robe-weight era female activists calling themselves Jane, build an underground network for women 442 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:58,640 with unwanted pregnancies and provide low cost and free illegal abortions to an estimated 11,000 443 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:06,400 women. Yes, so that way when you if you found a poster if it was a word of mouth and you needed an 444 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:14,400 abortion, which was illegal in this time, you call the number and say, hey, is Jane? And they would 445 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:21,440 lead you to connecting to this woman, Jane, you know, no real names used, who would connect you with 446 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,960 a healthcare provider who would take you somewhere and give you an illegal abortion. Study up, dude. 447 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:32,160 Study up, dude. Study up, everybody wants the Jane. We recreate the Jane network. 448 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:39,200 Literally recreate the Jane wheel. So it's these women faced jail time and legal prosecution. 449 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:45,280 I mean, just the emotionality of just being with each other through all of this and dying from 450 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:52,880 sepsis. I mean, hospitals in this time had full on sepsis wards for women who were dying of illegal 451 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:59,120 unsafe abortions trying to self abort. There's a lot to be said also about the safety of self abortions 452 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,960 and people have been self aborting for centuries, but I will not go on that danger today. 453 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,720 Yes, yes, yes, yes. But this is a very powerful documentary and I think very timely after the fall 454 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:15,200 of row. So something that we can all watch and learn a bit from. Yeah, what about you? 455 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:21,120 My pop for this week is she said at the New York Times journalist, Megan Tohee and Jody 456 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:28,320 Cantor who reported and exposed the sexual allegations against Harvey Weinstein. This story is 457 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:37,840 actually what started the Me Too movement. And it is such an amazing movie. It has Zoe Kazan and 458 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:44,960 Kerry Mulligan in it. Ashley Judd. And it was an amazing movie. I think it's going to be more 459 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:51,840 and more relevant as we go on. Yeah. To really uplift journalists. 100% was on. 460 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,480 To piggyback off of that. I mean, free speech and journalism is going to be under attack over 461 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:01,920 the four years. And I'm not just making that up. That has been said by the incoming administration. 462 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:08,640 From the anime within. Yeah. So listen to reputable sources and journalists and female journalists. 463 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:16,640 And while this week we have not been our normal funny silly goofy silly girls. I think we're still 464 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:23,600 funny. Yes. We want to be a place where you can come and escape. And we wanted to do this 465 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:29,520 episode purely because you know, it is an important topic and we stand with women. We always will 466 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:37,840 stand with women. Yeah. And expect, you know, fun silly goofy things. But we will be here holding 467 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:44,000 space for all women and really anyone going through difficult time. Yeah. If you're anything like me, 468 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,440 I need to escape. My TikTok algorithm makes me want to like literally jump off a bridge. All I need 469 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:55,040 I just needed kitties and puppies. Yes. I just need stupid movies and kitties and puppies. So 470 00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,880 while this is an incredibly difficult time at next next episode we release we will try to have 471 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,640 fun. We want to be in place where you can escape. But I always feel free to say like we want to 472 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:12,240 have an episode on this. We would love you to talk about this. 100% short and sweet. We're here for 473 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:18,960 you. We hold space for you and we love you. Yeah. Absolutely. And I know we're two white chicks 474 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,000 in Arizona. But like we like she said stand with all marginalized communities and just want to be 475 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,600 a place where we can all love each other and create peace and fight any kind of injustice that we see 476 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:36,720 wherever we see it for those that are you know kind and yes. And believe other people should have 477 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:41,840 rights. They imagine that. Imagine believing other people should have rights. Yes. All people. But then 478 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:48,480 also we all need to turn off our brains and watch some stupid reality shows and gossip about things 479 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:55,040 that really don't matter. I've been watching gossip. I know. And I needed something so stupid to 480 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,920 watch the other night. And I'm I might get canceled for saying this but we watched three amigos. 481 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:04,800 I never seen it. It was one of my husband's favorite movies growing up. Your husband's 482 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:10,000 back. That's it. I said I was like well if he says it's okay. It's like he's the one he recommended it 483 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,320 and it was very stupid but I chuckled a lot. So watch some things stupid that'll make you 484 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,920 chuckle this week. And on that note, I think it's time for us to jump on our feminist broomsticks and 485 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,240 fly on out of here. We did that in the Halloween episode but I think that it's the same. Can I tell you 486 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:28,880 where the broomstick came from? Oh my god. Yes. I watched the video that you said please. Okay. Okay. 487 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,040 Okay. Olivia is going to talk us about broomsticks for like two seconds. So the 488 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:38,160 I followed this account. It is so amazing. It's all of them. 489 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:48,320 Pinkie history and so basically where the witches on broomsticks came from is women used to dip 490 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:58,800 halus and eugenics into the broomstick and then put it up their lady parts and ride it to you 491 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:05,920 know, have stimulation and get highs balls and to distract them from the horrors and and the 492 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:12,800 drugs that they were doing were halusogenic drugs and so they were acting off freaky and weird. 493 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,520 And there was like that you must pay all your share which is on broomsticks became a thing because 494 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,920 they were sexual. They were hallucinating and they were just having a grand. No, for the first time. 495 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,960 Those are just naked tripping masturbating women. Yeah. Yeah. 496 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,920 That's the end of the day. That's me after the summer. I was going to say which amongst 497 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:36,800 us is not. That's going to be me for the next four years. Just tripping balls. Yeah. Like that. 498 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,640 The barbituids. I needed them. The ma'am, your barbituids. 499 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:47,760 I love that. I love this. Sorry. I heard broomsticks. No, it was a necessary interjection. 500 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,880 Don't leave me with that one. No regrets. That interjunction. No regrets. 501 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,640 No regrets. Ladies, get your broomsticks. Get your elusinogenic. Yeah. 502 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,320 Get your dick. I'm right. Okay. Get your maybe maybe not the broomsticks. Yeah. 503 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:05,920 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. These splinters. Ladies, think of the splinters. Yeah. Castle Megastore.com. 504 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:12,560 Yeah. There you go. We need to get sponsored by a vibrator company. Yeah. Anyway, Olivia, 505 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:18,800 that note. Tell everybody where they can find you. I'll be on Instagram @livimariez at 506 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:27,120 L I V I M A R I E Z or you can find me on TikTok @livyolife420 507 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,840 You can find me, Shauna Trinidad, on Instagram @shaunatrinidad 508 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:38,800 S H A U N A T R I N I D A D. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 509 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:46,880 Don't forget you can find the pop culture junkie podcast, social media links and more on our 510 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:52,320 website popculturejunkie.com. From there, you can find our podcast and all platforms where you can 511 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,760 follow, subscribe, rate and review. Why don't you do it all? Join our family on Patreon for a 512 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,960 measly one dollar a month. We'll give you a special shout out on an episode of the show like this. 513 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:11,680 Can't stop. I'm sorry. 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Is that what you do when you ride the Pro-Six? 521 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,240 Moning my own name seems really weird. I'm gonna need to fucking the living. 522 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:08,720 Ladies start moning your own name. I'm gonna need that power. I was just gonna say I should 523 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:12,640 fucking other Olivia. You should date a woman named Olivia. When you move to San Francisco, 524 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,440 you're gonna find another. You're gonna find a lesbian named Olivia. I'm gonna enter into a triad. 525 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:25,200 No, everybody named Olivia. We're all named Olivia. Oh my god. 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