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Hello and welcome to How Did This Not Get Made?

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This is the podcast all about the movies that were never made, the scripts that were never

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written and the ideas that never even made it to the page.

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My name is Daniel Kawka and I'm Lexcee Riley.

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[Applause]

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And that is the smoothest I've ever done the intro.

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A smooth like butter intro.

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Never again.

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Happy Honda Days.

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Happy Toyota.

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[Laughs]

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We are still in the season.

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Of giving.

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So buy a new car today.

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[Laughs]

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Man, we're starting to realize that we were going to throw an ads of our own and I didn't realize

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that we would take that literally.

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So it's my turn again.

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I took on a franchise that was a little bigger than I expected it to be.

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There's only three movies.

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Well, two soon to be three.

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And if you haven't read the title of the episode, we are talking about Sonic the Hedgehog.

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Yeah, this is I think one of the episodes where I am going to be outside of quickly watching

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things last night flying completely blind.

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No, you'll be fine.

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Which is kind of fun.

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I love learning.

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The research is going to have all the info.

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But getting your hot takes on stuff is really the joy of the podcast.

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Yeah, I've got a lot of hot takes just from watching one last night.

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But we'll get into that.

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Now, I do want to put a bit of a disclaimer on here.

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Oh, hold on.

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No, it's not for anything bad or like any like for a warning or anything like that.

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It's sorry in a family show.

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Have you seen our demographic?

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Yeah, I really have.

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Yeah, we are.

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I'm trying.

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I'm trying to keep it open.

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Okay.

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I just want to say right off the bat, we are solely going to be talking about the first Sonic movie

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that was attempted to be made in the mid 90s.

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And specifically the unmade game Sonic Extreme.

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Oh.

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Now, this is not going to go into all of the other unmade Sonic games because there are multiples.

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There's so many that got made though.

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There are a lot of games that got made.

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There were a lot of games that did not get made.

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But I want to say that we are solely going to be focusing on Sonic Extreme.

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And the other thing that I will not be talking about but might be a episode in the future is the cursed Sonic

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that was supposed to be part of the first Sonic movie.

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The first one that actually came out with Jim Carrey?

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Yes.

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Oh.

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You remember that trailer, right?

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Uh, meow.

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Oh!

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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That was my very first ever introduction to Sonic.

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That shouldn't be.

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Because I also watched one of the cartoons last night.

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I was like, this was on, I think my boy cousins were watching it.

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I just had one of those visceral memories that come screaming back where I was like, I've heard this theme song.

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I've like seen it over here but I don't ever remember sitting down to watch it.

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So yeah.

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You've seen that as your first Sonic is like being introduced to fairy tales in the latter seasons of Once Upon a Time.

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Hey!

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I mean, it's not wrong.

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Yeah.

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I do remember people being up real.

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I was like, hey, it's a weird look and creature and people were really upset.

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And I think you're the person that showed me what it was supposed to look like.

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Because I think we saw that trailer in theaters.

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I don't know if I saw in theaters.

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I remember seeing it and I was just a poll.

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We were together when that happened.

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Like we were sitting in the same room.

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And I just remember you being like, no, no, no.

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Here's what it is.

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And I was like, oh, that, that was scary.

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He was weird and-

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Out of context totally fine.

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I mean, good on Paramount to revamp and say like we're going to delay the movie.

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We're going to redo Sonic in the CGI that we did.

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I think that's one of the best fixes in film history.

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Because that could have-

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It could have tanked it.

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It would have tanked it.

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It was going to tank it immediately.

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But wait a listen to your audience.

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But that will not be a subject of this Sonic episode just because it's so far into the future

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and really has nothing to do with like the over-working story.

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I'm really forward to that part.

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This is why I said the like the movie, yes, you can watch it, but it's not really like the necessary one to watch.

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And I think the animated show had more to do with like what is going on in here.

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I just wanted to like not stare blankly at you for two hours.

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And if anyone knows me, knows that I can't fly blind.

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It's just not how I roll in life.

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Was this your jam as a child?

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Yes.

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So growing up we had a Sega Genesis.

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We were one of the, I realize one of the first adopters of I guess Sega when it came out because we got the combo.

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So oftentimes with councils whenever they were sold oftentimes they're sold with a game.

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And Sega Genesis was sold with Sonic and we had that as a kid.

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We are in very opposites.

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I was in this fence and I know that like we've talked about this in real life before in real life.

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And I wasn't allowed to play video games as a kid.

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So all of this is going to be very foreign on top of it.

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Yeah, this was my jam.

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This was like the game that I played as a kid.

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We had Sonic, we had Sonic 2 and we had Sonic Spinball, which is the pinball version of Sonic the Hedgehog.

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There were pinball versions of things.

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I do remember going to friends houses and being, do you have a console?

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May I play?

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So that was my history with it.

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That was my introduction to video games was like, are we talking like Fave Game?

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I would not say it's my favorite game, but it's up there.

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And there's definitely an nostalgia that comes with this game that excuse me to enjoy it more.

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Thanks for you had me play a little bit of it just so like thank God.

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Playing the game has more to do with this episode.

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Watching the animated show had more to do with what we're in.

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I just watched Jim Carey's performance for fun like always.

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And that's the thing.

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I have lots of questions about the Dr. Eggman, Dr. Robotnik.

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I don't understand.

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It's the same person, but it's Robotnik in the cartoon and in the video game.

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Where did Eggman come from?

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Is it just his like human?

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Like let's be clear, I was not, I was trying to full screen watch it as much as possible.

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And I know for a fact I picked up my phone and was like, oh no, I'm confused.

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I will explain that because Jim Carey's adaptation, although it's great that he took it on as his own care.

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And he took it on as his own character is not representative of the Eggman, Dr. Robotnik character that we get in the game.

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I'm looking forward to that being explained because the movie didn't just left me with a lot of questions.

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He more so leans into it into the second movie where he has like the crazy mustache.

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Yes, so on Paramount Plus it just plays like when the credits roll the second one immediately plays.

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And I again have a dog who is very invested in the movie probably got up to get a snack or something.

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I was like, oh credits are playing and then sat back down assuming it was the end credits scene watched a good chunk of it.

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And then it was like Sonic 2 and I went, oh my god, when did that happen?

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So I saw the crazy mustache and he was like shaving his head, which was really visceral.

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And I was like, I've seen enough.

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That's the closest to the video game.

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Oh, yeah.

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Well, that's a bummer.

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Okay, we got a good understanding of our history.

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I guess your misunderstandings.

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This is going to be very educated for me.

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Before we get into the notes, let's get into the misunderstandings of our advertisements.

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And welcome back.

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Hopefully you have all of the parts to turn yourself into a car.

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What?

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Happy Toyota Thon.

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Oh my god.

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It's a happy Honda Days miracle.

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You just said Toyota Thon.

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So Sonic the Hedgehog was the outcome of the Japanese video game company Sega attempting

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to create a character that would represent their company.

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Disney, head Mickey Mouse, horn and brother's head, bugs bunny.

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And within the same decade, Sega was brainstorming this new character Mario emerged in 1985 to

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be the face of Nintendo.

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It's me Mario.

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The creation of Sonic cannot be credited to just one person because it was created by a whole

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team at Sega.

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It was headed by Ujiinaka.

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That's the name that you definitely should keep in mind.

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He plays a big role in all of this.

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Got it.

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There is Neo-toe Oshima.

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And Hirokatu Yusuhara.

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So you just listed three different men?

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Yes.

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And the iconic look of Sonic that design can be credited to Neo-toe Oshima.

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In 1988, Sega had released their new game console, the 16-bit Mega Drive.

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Although we, in North America, we know it as the Sega Genesis.

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Sega Genesis.

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It's a whole lot more for a whole lot less.

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Even though the console was more powerful and had better graphics than the NES, it was not

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enough to convince gamers to go and buy it.

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Sega needed a character to represent their console.

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And secretly for three years, they worked on developing a character that would represent

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the company.

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It seemed to be the norm for a lot of other video game companies.

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We already mentioned Mario, but there was also Pac-Man representing Namco, Mega Man for

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Capcom.

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Sega initially had a character for their master system, which was the system they had

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before.

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And that was Alex Kid.

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What?

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He's not memorable because Doen knows who Alex Kid is.

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So Mario is for Nintendo.

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I'm just getting my gaming bearings because they all blur real deep in me.

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Like I mentioned before, oftentimes new consoles are when they hit the market, they are paired

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off with a game.

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And Alex Kid, not going to cut it for the Genesis.

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So when the Genesis first released, it was bundled with the forgotten game, Altered Beast.

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Excuse me?

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Mm-hmm.

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It was a game that takes place in ancient Rome where you play as a werewolf, then a weredragon.

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What is with the werewolf?

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You know, where tiger.

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And then finally, you are a golden werewolf.

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Okay.

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So it's the plot of Grim.

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You're a watch Grim.

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I have not.

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It came out around the same time as one spawn of time and there was like were bees.

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Why?

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I didn't watch it.

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I just remember being like, Oh, because you chose your fandom.

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Oh.

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Grim Kid or one spawn time good.

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And you chose wisely.

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Both the teams chose wisely.

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Now on June 23rd, 1991, Sega made the switch to bundles Sonic the Hedgehog with Genesis

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and sales took off.

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In 1991, it became the best selling game in the US and one multiple works that year.

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Although Sonic was a much more family friendly character, the games appeal was the gameplay.

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So back in the 80s and the 90s, most games operated without saving your progress.

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Oh, my God.

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Yeah, I definitely remember this because whenever I boot up Sonic, you basically start

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from the beginning.

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That's going to blow the children of today's mind.

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They auto save now.

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And now it's just kind of become the standard.

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Now this forced gamers to play the same initial levels over and over and over again, leading

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players to complete the level as fast as possible.

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And this is where we get the term speed run.

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Oh, cool.

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So whenever you see someone speed running, a super Mario level, like that's the reason why.

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I bet there's competitions for that.

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Now, this primed a players for when they played Sonic, a character that was built with speed

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in mind.

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Now programmer, Yuji Nakka, he built it into the program that Sonic would gain speed by

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simply moving forward.

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You wouldn't have to rely on pushing the run button or gaining like boost tokens.

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He just got faster and faster.

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Oh, that's why I was so slow.

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You have to hold down.

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I did.

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I did that.

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Oh, that's why.

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Now, the levels would reward players that could maintain Sonic near the top of the map,

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moving them fewer obstacles, but if you felt the lower levels, you'd encounter more blocks,

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spikes, enemies, rising water, and so on.

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Well, now I'd like to play this with all of that information in mind.

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Maybe we'll do a live stream.

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We do have a Twitch channel.

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We do.

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After the original Sonic game was released, a new studio for developing games was established

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in Palo Alto, California called the Sega Institute of Technology, or SIT, or SIT.

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It was headed by former Atari employee Mark Cerney.

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Cerney immediately saw concerns and naming a studio sit because many of his Japanese co-workers

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had trouble pronouncing the S sound and end up calling a studio shit.

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That's not where I saw that going at all.

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So he renamed the studio to an even worse name, the Sega technological institute, or STI.

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Hmm.

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Hmm.

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Hmm.

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Back then it was known as STDs and STDIs, definitely.

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It's a sign of the times, but I'm just like, how does that fix the problem that's still

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going to miss pronounced?

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If the S is the problem, and the company is called Sega, can't really do much.

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No, you can't.

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Now, when Cerney was first hired at by Sega in 1985, he initially worked in Tokyo and worked

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on the master system, but Sega wanted to create games that cater to the American taste.

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And so they set up the Sega technological institute in the US with Cerney being the head of operations

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in 1990.

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STI was unique that it did not answer to Sega's American division and would seek approval

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directly from Sega's Japanese division.

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Ah.

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Hmm.

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Okay, and this guy was the head of Atari.

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He worked for Atari.

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I have a dumb question.

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Hmm.

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Are Atari and Sega the same company?

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No.

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Okay.

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Very different.

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Is Atari its own company or is it okay?

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There we go.

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There's a little more history.

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Their first assignment was to develop a Dick Tracy game based on the movie.

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The plan was to release the game a year before the film's release date, but with delays, it

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did not release until February in 1991.

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Now, I know that you are a Dick Tracy diehard.

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When did Dick Tracy come out?

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I am not a Dick Tracy diehard, but I do have someone in my life that is a Dick Tracy diehard,

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like dressed up for Halloween as Dick Tracy.

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And I know that because I was like, "Oh, who is he dressed up as?"

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Well, you don't really need to know the release date.

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All you need to really know is that this game was released eight months after the theatrical

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release and two months after the home video release.

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Oh my God, the marketing team.

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They missed it a little bit.

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Just a wee bit.

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I don't know that there was like marketing was the same as it is now, but nowadays that

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oof.

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Yeah, the game essentially flopped because it was just irrelevant by that time.

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That's nuts.

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It seemed like STI was not doing great right off the start, but the team was able to redeem

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themselves when their next game, Kid Chameleon, sold incredibly well.

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What a fascination with children.

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The game broke new grounds by including over 100 levels while managing to fit it on a one

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megabyte cartridge.

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Oh my God.

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Oh my God.

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And megabyte, yeah.

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Oh my God.

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Although this game also did not have a safe feature on it.

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Oh my God.

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Okay, so there's 100 levels and you're at 98 and the power goes out.

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No wonder kids used to get so angry and violent over video games.

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Oh yeah.

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After the success of the first Sonic the Hedgehog game, Cerny made the pitch to make the

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sequel game Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

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What gave Cerny the advantage was his recent hiring of Yuji Nakka, the programmer behind

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Sonic.

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Behind the scenes, Nakka was not pleased with the salary when he worked for the Japanese

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Sega company and left.

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When Cerny heard about this, he brought it up with the Sega of America executive Shinobu

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Toyota and was able to negotiate a deal to double Nakka salary and then hire him for

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SDI.

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That would make me also switch companies for divisions or whatever.

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Double my salary?

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Yes, please.

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I'd move across the country for that.

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I've done it.

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And my salary did not double.

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So you do it for less.

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I did do it for less.

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So on top of that, Cerny also hired Hirozaku Yasuhara, the designer behind most of Sonic

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stages in gameplay.

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Cerny made the pitch in September 1991 and promised to have it ready by Christmas season

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in 1992.

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This is the only way that Sonic can ever relate to Christmas is the deadline is always for

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Christmas season.

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Okay, because I asked you that before we started recording, I was like, does it ever really

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have to do with Christmas because it's come out around Christmas every year?

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Yeah.

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Interesting now if that was always the deadline, but it has nothing to actually do with it.

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This has been a business strategy for like nearly every video game.

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You'll see just like an influx of video games hit the market like October, November and

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even December.

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Right.

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Because then they can get it for Christmas.

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Exactly.

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Or for Hanaka?

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Sega was hesitant at first thinking that it was too soon for a sequel, but by November,

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they gave them the green light.

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They were losing two months of development time.

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All hands were on deck to create a Sonic sequel with a team of over 100 people.

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There was a lot of struggles to get the game off the ground and there was a lot of conflict

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due to language and cultural barriers.

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Regardless, the game was released in November 1992.

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Hey, they did it.

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Sonic 2 fits easily into any tackle box made from a space age polymer plastic for years

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of family fun and pets love it too.

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Find the Sega Genesis that comes with Sonic 1 and get Sonic 2 free.

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Heck now, we're your dog sweaters sold separately.

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And in November, 1993, it was reported that Sonic the Hedgehog 2 had broken video game

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sales records and became the best selling 16-bit game of all time.

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They didn't dig trace yet.

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Nope.

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The game introduced a new character, Tails, and a new move for Sonic, which is known as

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the Spin Dash.

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Do you know what the Spin Dash is?

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I don't know.

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I don't know who Tails is either.

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In the sequel, the orange yellowish?

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I did that far.

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Oh, okay.

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Maybe I should have had you watch the sequel instead?

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I do know who Knuckles is though.

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Okay, so yeah, we had Tails and then there was a Spin Dash.

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That came in the second game.

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That is where you can hold down Sonic.

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So it turns into the little ball?

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Yeah, it takes off.

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I do know what that is.

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I've never gotten the opportunity, but I do know what it is.

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I use that a lot.

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The Sonic sequel had its successes, but now without its consequences.

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Sonic and its production in 1992, Mark Cerney resigned from SDI.

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Knock refused to develop another Sonic game if he had to work with an American team again.

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After Cerney, Roger Hector, who previously worked for Atari and Electronic Arts, or EA,

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he took over SDI.

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Oh, I only know them because they did the Sims.

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During this time, during this time, SDI fell into an odd place in Sega's corporation.

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He was answering and getting approvals from both the Japanese and American branch.

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But he never considered himself as part of either.

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It was more like an independent game company whose only client was Sega.

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Hector figured it might be best to relocate the team from Palo Alto to Redwood City, California

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to be closer to the Sega of America headquarters.

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In 1993, SDI was tasked with developing Sonic the Hedgehog 3.

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The new character added to the roster, Knuckles.

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Hey!

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I know Knuckles!

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How do you know Knuckles?

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Because when the second one started, I was like, "Oh, this is exciting.

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Idris Elba is in the movie."

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And I went, "Okay."

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And then Knuckles started talking at one point.

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And I went, "Oh my God.

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Is that where Idris Elba?"

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I was waiting for him to be a character, not a video game character.

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I was like, "Yes, as a human."

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And it took me way too long to recognize his voice.

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And I was like, "Oh, yeah, Idris Elba is Knuckles."

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That's the only reason I'm like, "I know exactly which character Knuckles is."

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Yes.

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I am aware of the effect I have on women.

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While in development, Sega made a promo deal with McDonald's that would include

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Sonic toys in their happy meals.

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God, they don't make them like they used to.

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Okay, I'm going to show you these toys.

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Because the toys of the 90s in Happy Meals were really the jam.

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I can sound really old and say that they don't make them like they used to, but it's really

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true.

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And I guarantee you you have either owned one of these or seen them before or played with

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them before.

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In the $1.99 Sonic 3 hamburger happy meal.

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Sonic a lunches with a push of a button.

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Tails flies, who knows how high.

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And Robotic Barely dodges disaster.

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I feel like that spinner thing, the blue one with the thing, it reminds me of the girls

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had the little fairy that you pulled before it.

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They all went into my room.

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And then Tails would fly into the air.

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I definitely had the Nockles toy.

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I definitely had the Dr. Robotnik toy.

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I remember having these.

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I don't remember having them.

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I think the spinner thing was like the equivalent to the very, I don't remember what those

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were called, but I remember my cousins had something similar to that.

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I remember the little mermaid toys from McDonald's.

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That's what I remember.

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Not the same, but yes.

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Just as good.

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The team worked as hard as they can to get the game out by February 1994.

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Oh, going off schedule.

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That was when McDonald's was able to like, because McDonald's had a tight Christmas schedule.

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Yeah, but they fell short of accomplishing their goals.

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Originally, Nockles was going to be a playable character, much like Tails and Sonic the

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Hedgehog 2.

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But with the immovable release date, Sega made an executive decision on what to do with

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the unfinished game.

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So they split the game into two.

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The first game was Sonic the Hedgehog 3.

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Sonic 3 is coming.

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Look for the shadows.

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A ground hook there.

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Make that Hedgehog day.

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Did you see the shadow?

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Sonic 3, take a little more seconds.

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It didn't include Nockles as a playable character.

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Instead he was a protagonist guarding Angel Island and the master of Emerald.

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Basically, he was there to like, foil and like, disrupt your gameplay while you were playing

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through these levels.

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So like, if you were going to go across a bridge, he would destroy that bridge.

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Oh good.

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How fun.

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Now, part two of this game would be released six months later as Sonic and Knuckles.

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This is a great idea for a new game called Sonic and Knuckles.

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It's Knuckles in his own game.

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Plus it has new technology.

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Lock on technology.

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So you can play Knuckles in Sonic 2 and 3.

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It's revolutionary.

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This cartridge could be inserted into the Sega Genesis like any other game, but there

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was a slot at the top of this game that you could put the Sonic 3 cartridge into.

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So then you would get Knuckles as a playable character when you combine the two together.

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That's really cool.

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Yeah.

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That's so smart and like, it's such a brilliant move.

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As like a kid, you're going to want both games to be able to play them together.

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So like, way to drive up sales.

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00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,880
What a good business move.

498
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:26,880
Yeah.

499
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,720
And then on top of that, oh boy, there's more.

500
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,000
They expanded this to Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

501
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:38,600
So if you put in the Sonic the Hedgehog 2 cartridge, well, Tails is already a playable character,

502
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,480
but you could play as Knuckles in Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

503
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,480
That's so brilliant.

504
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,480
Yeah.

505
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,720
Whoever came up with that, Kudos.

506
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,720
Great stuff.

507
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,720
And if it wasn't for the Deadline, it would have never happened.

508
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,720
See?

509
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,360
Sometimes bad things happen to make way for this.

510
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,720
It is okay to miss your Deadlines.

511
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,200
That is the moral of the story.

512
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,040
So say the Tracy.

513
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:03,000
After Sonic 3, SDI was in charge of creating a spin-off game that Sonic could sell for the holiday

514
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,320
season.

515
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,360
They wanted to go in the direction of expanding the casino levels that they saw in Sonic

516
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:09,440
1 and 2.

517
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:15,000
And out of that, they created Sonic Spinball, a pinball game, both Sonic the Hedgehog.

518
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000
What year was this?

519
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,000
Around 1994.

520
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,000
Wow, we're ahead of the curve.

521
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,320
Because I feel like the late 90s had the pinball computer games.

522
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,320
Yeah.

523
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:28,360
Finally, Yusuhara and Yujinaka, they had left the team, seeing that the two of them could

524
00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:29,920
knock it along at all.

525
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,160
They both left.

526
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,680
Well, it seems like Yujinaka doesn't really seem to get along with a lot of people.

527
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,880
It comes up a lot.

528
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,080
Ah, what a fun victory.

529
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:45,440
SDI remained in a weird limbo between the American and Japanese branch of Sega.

530
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,520
After the release of the Sony PlayStation in 1994.

531
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,520
Wow.

532
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,520
PlayStation was 1994.

533
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,520
Yeah, and the tension within Sega began to rise.

534
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,080
I'm just blown away because to me, a PlayStation feels so, and I guess we're on like what, five

535
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,080
now.

536
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,080
Yeah.

537
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:08,640
Now, this research is going to take a little bit of a left turn because we're going to

538
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,800
kind of stop talking about the video game when SDI and developing the games and we're

539
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,160
going to go into Sonic in other media forums.

540
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,160
Sonic goes to Hollywood.

541
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,160
Yes.

542
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:32,760
Yeah, actually, Sonic does go to Hollywood and we will discuss that after these advertisements.

543
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,600
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544
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,280
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545
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,880
Slice up some apples, dip it in some caramel, have fun with the kids.

546
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,440
I said that we're going to kind of drift away from the video game.

547
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,280
We're going to Hollywood, baby.

548
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:57,120
We are going to go in a very different direction on September 6, 1993, premiered the animated

549
00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:05,400
series Adventures of Sunk the Hedgehog.

550
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,080
The show is developed by a number of people, but one of them stands out and that's Phil

551
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:16,480
Harnage, whose career has been turning already established IP into Saturday morning cartoons

552
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,800
before Sonic.

553
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,680
Some of the notable productions that he created were Vat Elbert and the Cosby Kids, He-Man

554
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:28,080
and the Masters of the Universe, Shira, Princess of Power, Hello Kitty's Furry Tale Theater,

555
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,480
Elf Tales, The Legend of Zelda, The Super Mario Bros. Super Show.

556
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,480
Wow.

557
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,720
The Adventures of Super Mario 3, Super Mario World, New Kids on the Block.

558
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,960
It was a show, there was an animated show based on the band, and Bill and Ted's excellent

559
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,960
adventures.

560
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,440
Wait, what?

561
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,200
That also got a show?

562
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,200
There's a theme, right?

563
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,360
There's like Super Mario and Legend of Zelda and then just hard left with new kids on the

564
00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:57,360
block.

565
00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:01,400
Yeah, it was basically, they just went to him to be like, can we turn this into a Saturday

566
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,400
morning cartoon?

567
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,400
He's like, I'll do it.

568
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,400
I'll do it.

569
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:10,360
Magic, now the voice of Sonic was provided by Jell-L White.

570
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:12,360
Oh, wow.

571
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:13,360
Ercle.

572
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:14,360
Ercle.

573
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:20,320
Hey, if we share why we could turn those plain old hot dogs into three mouthwater, taste

574
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,000
but tantalizing chili dogs.

575
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000
That's incredible.

576
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,080
Yeah, he was the first voice of Sonic the Hedgehog.

577
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,320
Oh, they should have brought him back.

578
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,320
I wish they did.

579
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,040
Not that I don't love Ben Schwartz, but...

580
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,640
Ben Schwartz is good at Sonic, but...

581
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,640
Don't be...

582
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,360
If you brought back Ercle, I would not be bad.

583
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:37,840
No, not at all.

584
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,480
The show established a few things about the character that were outside of the games and

585
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,520
this Sonic is a mischievous teenager hedgehog with a kind heart.

586
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:52,880
He teams up with his sidekick Tails, a two-tailed fox Sonic found when he was a toddler.

587
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,000
Tails was a toddler.

588
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,360
They try to stop Dr. Robotnik from conquering their home planet, Mobius.

589
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:00,880
Is Tails a lady?

590
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,880
No.

591
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,440
Little boy.

592
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,880
The show took some liberties, making up some characters for the show.

593
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,880
They made sure that Sonic taught a lesson in its Sonic says PSAs.

594
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,640
This is back when if cartoons are being targeted to kids, you also need to teach something

595
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,640
to them.

596
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,800
This is part of it.

597
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,480
And it established Sonic's favorite food.

598
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,920
Do you know what his favorite food is?

599
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,920
Onion rings?

600
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,920
Chili dogs.

601
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,920
Oh, come on.

602
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,920
It was right there.

603
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,240
You saw the movie.

604
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,000
I know that element is in the movie.

605
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000
I mean, I felt like he just ate a lot.

606
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000
I mean, there's part of that as well, but-

607
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,520
Because they calls James Marsden "donut lord."

608
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,520
So I was very focused on the donut of it.

609
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,320
I thought they were going to make like a ringing-shaped food theme joke.

610
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,320
No, chili dogs was, I don't know what it was about.

611
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,320
And 90s food.

612
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,320
Yeah.

613
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,320
It really is just-

614
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,960
But I remember eating chili dogs when I was a kid simply because Sonic ate chili dogs.

615
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,960
Oh, wow.

616
00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:00,720
Like so many Saturday morning cartoons, the purpose was to primarily sell toys to kids.

617
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,720
I was going to say sell chili dogs to kids.

618
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,560
I mean, it might have happened that spikes in chili dog sales went up just like it spikes

619
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,800
in spinach went up when Papa-

620
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,800
Oh, I'm sure.

621
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,800
Kids don't eat anything.

622
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,520
They're like chicken, tandys, and mac and cheese until some character eats it or someone

623
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,000
they look up to eat something and they're like, oh, now I'll try it.

624
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,000
Yeah.

625
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,920
So if Captain America were to eat oatmeal, you'd have so many kids eating oatmeal.

626
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,920
I was like, "Mam, good."

627
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:32,520
I don't mean to gross everyone, the black licorice of breakfast foods.

628
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:39,120
So when Sonic 3D Blast was about to be released in November of 1996, the show was there

629
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,640
to help promote it in their Christmas special.

630
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,840
Now you're so in it, Claus!

631
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,080
Sonic Claus.

632
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,440
The name of the special was Sonic Christmas Blast.

633
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,760
There is a Sonic Christmas story somewhere in the lore.

634
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,760
Yes.

635
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,760
Yay!

636
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:04,760
Now, Sonic 3D Blast was released for the Sega Genesis, the Sega Saturn, and the PC.

637
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Not the PlayStation.

638
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,760
No, not the PlayStation.

639
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,760
Even though the PlayStation is around at this point.

640
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,760
Yes.

641
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,760
Interesting.

642
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,000
With Sonic, it stayed primarily with Sega.

643
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,600
Is multiplayer platforming a thing that happens later in video game lore, I guess?

644
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:22,320
Multi-platforming, I think, began happening around this time, but usually was because you

645
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:27,160
had video game development companies, and in order for them to sell more games, you had

646
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,640
to make it available on different consoles.

647
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,840
Whereas Sega, in this case, is solely responsible for...

648
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,840
Right.

649
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,840
They have their own console.

650
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,840
Yeah.

651
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,240
And this is kind of like their own monopoly, to be like, "We don't want to put it on other

652
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,880
platforms because we want people to buy the Sega Genesis or the Sega Saturn."

653
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,320
You're losing business as soon as you hand it to another platform.

654
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,320
Yeah.

655
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,320
Yeah.

656
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,320
Yeah.

657
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:57,640
It was presented in a 2D isometric perspective that gave the illusion that it was 3D.

658
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,640
Illusion.

659
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,640
And solutions.

660
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,140
Illusion.

661
00:31:01,140 --> 00:31:06,720
Having the game and the TV show synergize was just the beginning and Sega had a much

662
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,840
big ambition in mind.

663
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,560
What if Sonic had its own theatrically released movie?

664
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,960
And what if Sonic created Sonic's very first 3D game?

665
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,320
And what if they were connected together?

666
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,280
And what if it starred Jim Carey?

667
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:30,880
Aha, finally.

668
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:36,200
The development for the Sonic the Hedgehog movie came from Michaeline Reasley, the director

669
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,680
of Entertainment and consumer products for Sega of America.

670
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:46,920
In 1993, Reasley was given the approval from Sonic of Japan to pursue pitching a Sonic

671
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,920
movie.

672
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:53,240
There was one concern coming from the Sega of America president Tom Kalinsky and that

673
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,960
was the failure of the Super Mario Brothers movie in the stain left on the reputation of Nintendo.

674
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,840
There was a Super Mario Brothers movie?

675
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,840
Yeah.

676
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,840
Oh, is this the one?

677
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,840
Bob Hoskins.

678
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,840
Like, "Wizama?"

679
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,840
Yeah.

680
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,840
I know of it.

681
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,840
Okay.

682
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,840
It's terrible.

683
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:09,840
We should watch it.

684
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,840
Great.

685
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,440
Now Reasley, he heard Kalinsky's concerns and proceeded to ignore it and signed a deal with

686
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:18,680
GM Studios and Trilogy Entertainment Group in August of 1994.

687
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,880
We're going to do this anyway.

688
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:26,760
During the story development meetings, Sega insisted that this needs to be an origin story.

689
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,920
Not just an origin story made up for the movie, but an origin story that was already established

690
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:38,000
during the production of the first Sonic the Hedgehog game and was put in the Sonic Bible

691
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,000
in 1991.

692
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,880
That was going to be the heck?

693
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,920
The Sonic Bible was part of the secret development of Sonic.

694
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,440
We're going to go into a little bit of that.

695
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,600
And we have it right here.

696
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,000
We kind of actually do.

697
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,000
Oh, damn.

698
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,000
Yeah.

699
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,080
There was also origin stories in the 1992 manga.

700
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:59,720
There was the Sega official Sonic Jam official guide.

701
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:05,560
The official comic book that was released just before the Sonic the Hedgehog game.

702
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,440
We're going to go through many origin stories.

703
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,320
In this one, I've never heard of before.

704
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,520
I played a lot of the games as a kid and never have I heard this out.

705
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,400
I'm guessing that a lot of Sonic fans that are out there have probably never heard the

706
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,400
story either.

707
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,400
So this is the OG?

708
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,920
One of the original origin stories.

709
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:23,920
Yes.

710
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,880
Keep in mind, this is a fake story, but it's meant to sound real.

711
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,880
Okay.

712
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,880
Fake story.

713
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,880
Okay.

714
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,880
Okey dokey.

715
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,280
In the US around the 1940s, there were two Air Force pilots, Chuck Yeager and Henry

716
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,280
Gordon.

717
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,440
They took part in a secret project named Blue Gale in which they would be the first pilots

718
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,520
to break the sound barrier.

719
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:51,000
Henry's wife, Mary, gave him the nickname Hedgehog because when he took off his flight helmet,

720
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,920
his hair would stick straight up like a Hedgehog.

721
00:33:53,920 --> 00:34:00,040
Mary even illustrated a blue Cartoon mascot named Sonic on the back of his flight jacket.

722
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:05,000
Mary was a well-established children's book author and because her husband was gone most

723
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,400
of the time, she was most responsible for raising their daughter Shelley.

724
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,440
Mary would entertain Shelley and her friends by telling them stories about Sonic the Blue

725
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,240
Hedgehog that would protect innocent people and animals from evil men.

726
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:23,120
And they recurred evil Dr. Eggman.

727
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:30,920
In 1947, Blue Gale was ready to hit the milestone for flying faster than the speed of sound.

728
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,640
Before Chuck and Henry strapped into their fighter jets, both of them exchanged jackets with

729
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,760
each other out of respect.

730
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:44,520
Henry proceeded to accelerate his jet past the speed of sound and suddenly the jet exploded.

731
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:50,640
Chuck proceeds to do the same and he survives making him the first man to break the sound barrier.

732
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:56,280
Henry's sacrifice is lost in history and Chuck is praised for his accomplishments.

733
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:01,360
For Henry, he feels survivors guilt and for the rest of his life to honor Henry.

734
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,240
He continues to wear his flight jacket.

735
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:10,600
Other pilots see Chuck wearing Henry's jacket and begin sporting the same blue mascot, not

736
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,400
knowing the full story behind it.

737
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,680
What was apparent was that whoever wore the blue Hedgehog seemed to be protected in the

738
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,680
sky.

739
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,680
The story isn't over.

740
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,840
40 years later, Meg, a freelance photographer hired to cover an air show, find herself

741
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,000
in an antique store during her lunch break.

742
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,240
Thrifting through many racks, she finds an old, dirty flight jacket with a blue creature

743
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,320
and the name Sonic on the back.

744
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,880
The name seems familiar.

745
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,680
She's flooded with memories of an old neighbor lady that used to tell her stories of Sonic

746
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,200
when she was a little girl.

747
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,680
He was a Hedgehog that could run faster than the speed of sound.

748
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,320
Delighted by her find, she bought the jacket and wore it exiting the store.

749
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,480
In another version, Meg was actually gifted this jacket by her grandfather Chuck.

750
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,640
So wait, this sounds not fake at all.

751
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,160
I know, this is why I put a disclaimer in the beginning.

752
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,760
This is a fake story.

753
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,040
Also, this is the movie I want to see.

754
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,760
Like, Sonic 4, Sonic Origins.

755
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,680
That's such a good movie.

756
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,640
During the air show, one of the old World War II planes crashed to the ground around

757
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,960
for Meg was.

758
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,760
She surrounded by fire.

759
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,640
She's about to lose consciousness in a hand from a blue figure reaches out to her.

760
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:31,880
She feels the sensation of extreme acceleration before passing out and she wakes up in a hospital.

761
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:37,080
The nurse explains to her that she was found unconscious on a grassy hill miles away from

762
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,320
the airport.

763
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,360
Her jacket was burned and when she looked for Sonic on the back, the illustration was gone.

764
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,920
Days later, she developed her film from the air show and the last picture she took was

765
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,000
a blurry image of a pair of red shoes with white stripes.

766
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,760
Yes, there's your movie!

767
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,760
That's the movie.

768
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,840
It is Top Gun Meet Sonic.

769
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,560
I never heard this origin story before and I was like, "Someone make that movie!"

770
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,440
And it hit heavier than it should have.

771
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:11,840
Like this is just a fun, blue hedgehog just popping around, moving fast.

772
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,800
I was like, "What is this?

773
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,640
Why am I crying?"

774
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600
That's so good.

775
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,480
Again, fake story, not real, but it sounds...

776
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,680
You're gonna find me going down a rabbit hole on the internet later!

777
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,280
Yeah, none of these characters exist.

778
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,280
That's insane.

779
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,280
Right.

780
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,440
Now I'm like, there's no one's call sign was ever Sonic.

781
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,440
Had to be.

782
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,440
And I'm sure there was.

783
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,520
It seems like the origin story of Sonic.

784
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,040
Say you wanted Sonic to be a symbol.

785
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,520
Yeah, of survival, of protection.

786
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,800
As far as the Sonic's actual origins, that's a little more complicated.

787
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:50,160
And before releasing the first Sonic the Hedgehog game, Sega put out a comic book explaining

788
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,560
his origins to get people hyped for the game.

789
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,560
In the comic, we are on the planet Molbius.

790
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,360
It is under attack from the evil Dr. Robotnik.

791
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,240
Sonic is the only one that stands up to Robotnik.

792
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:09,280
And when Sonic destroys his killer robots and one is badniks, it frees.

793
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,960
It frees innocent creatures inside used to power the machines.

794
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:19,240
The creatures suggest to Sonic to get Dr. Contobur to help fight against Robotnik.

795
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:25,560
Sonic knows that this is impossible because Contobur is Robotnik spelled backwards.

796
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,440
Oh my god.

797
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,000
I love when they do something like that.

798
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:36,960
We flash back to when Sonic was just a normal brown anthropomorphic Hedgehog.

799
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,800
Skated?

800
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,800
Like he still talks, but he's just not really.

801
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:47,280
And this is him meeting Contobur for the first time.

802
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,200
Dr. Contobur is a scientist for good.

803
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:57,920
At the time Contobur was experimenting with the Chaos Emeralds to power his device, a

804
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:04,080
Retro Orbital Chaos Compressor or R-O-C-C.

805
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,000
His goal was to trap all the worlds evil into the Chaos Emeralds.

806
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,720
Sonic in the meantime trained himself on the Super Sonic treadmill and broke the sound

807
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:16,240
barrier, causing the machine to explode.

808
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:17,680
No one died in this one.

809
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,560
But this gave Sonic a blue sheen.

810
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,320
Oh.

811
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,600
Contobur made new shoes for Sonic.

812
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,440
This one's built for speed.

813
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:33,160
One day during lunch, Contobur spilled his drink on the R-O-C-C.

814
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:41,760
The machine malfunctions in Zaps, Contobur with over 10,000 volts of pure evil energy.

815
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,880
While holding onto a hard-boiled egg.

816
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,880
What?

817
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,880
Eggman.

818
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,880
Yep.

819
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,880
I know.

820
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Well, I mean, the name mostly comes from like his shape in the video games, which is kind

821
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,960
of weird that they chose.

822
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:02,760
Yeah, Jim Carrey to be Dr. Eggman where it's like, he's, I mean, he's a pretty skinny

823
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:09,480
guy, but like in the games like Robotnik is like this kind of a ball-shaped person.

824
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,200
And the cartoon is 100% of all.

825
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,360
I mean, that's where it comes from.

826
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,360
So Robotnik, Eggman, seeing.

827
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,360
Wild.

828
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,360
Yeah.

829
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,880
I don't know that we could have just called him Robotnik.

830
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,080
I don't know why we needed the hard-boiled egg of it all.

831
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,680
I feel like the nickname just kind of got out of control.

832
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,960
Yeah, I can't believe the lore is that it's a hard-boiled egg.

833
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,200
The machine then scatters thousands of containment rings all over the world.

834
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:40,160
Dr. Ovi Contobur is now the evil Dr. Ivo, Robotnik.

835
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,160
And he's hell-bent on creating a rain of terror all around Mobius.

836
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,360
We flash forward to the present, and Sonic continues to capture the containment rings,

837
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:54,560
while escaping the gang of badniks, Sonic slips through a giant ring and enters the warp

838
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,840
of confusion.

839
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:01,760
And inside he finds a chaos emerald and exit.

840
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,840
Sonic challenges Sonic and they end up at Robotnik's lab.

841
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,000
There they find Sonic's best friend that we all know and love.

842
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,000
Knuckles.

843
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,000
Porker Lewis.

844
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:20,040
He's tied up to a conveyor belt and he's headed towards a circular saw.

845
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,760
Sonic saves Porker and destroys a batnik creating machine.

846
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,960
But in the process, Robotnik steals the chaos emerald.

847
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,160
At the end of the comic, Sonic states that you can continue the adventure in his video

848
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,160
game.

849
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,160
Brilliant.

850
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,400
And I want to do research into when marketing teams became such a thing because obviously

851
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,240
they've been around for a while.

852
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,600
Mad men made a whole show about a marketing team.

853
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,520
But I'm like, did some marketing team come up with this pairing?

854
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,520
Because that's genius.

855
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:46,520
Yeah, it's pretty great.

856
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,440
That's the movie that should have been.

857
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,440
But that was the comic.

858
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,240
What about the Sonic Bible?

859
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:53,560
Oh right, because we were in the comic.

860
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,800
We weren't even, so they all really do tether together.

861
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,800
All 75 origin stories.

862
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,920
And the idea of the origin story was that this is one of the many stories that was being

863
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,920
told about.

864
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:06,920
Right.

865
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,280
Like Sonic the Hedgehog from the old lady neighbor.

866
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,280
Meg.

867
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,280
Yeah.

868
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:17,320
For the longest time, the lore of the Sonic Bible was kept secret until it was leaked in 2009.

869
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:22,720
Former sake of America employee Dean Sitten who worked on the Sonic Bible joined the online

870
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:24,920
forum SonicRetro.org.

871
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,280
This is the central hub for Sonic News and lore.

872
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,640
Think of it kind of like a wiki fandom site.

873
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,640
That's what it was.

874
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,720
Sitten would be there to answer questions from fans while he was there.

875
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:40,240
He was convinced to put the Sonic Bible documents up for sale.

876
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:45,600
It was swiftly bought by one of the users and PDF scans were uploaded to the site.

877
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:52,000
The documents shown the many versions and revisions made of the origin story of Sonic.

878
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,800
So we are going into the origin stories that were in the Sonic Bible.

879
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,240
So we've had two origin stories so far.

880
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:00,240
Yes.

881
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:04,160
We've had the nice story of the jet pilots.

882
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,360
The jet pilots who broke the sound barrier and then we had the comic book that came out

883
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,360
before.

884
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,360
Yeah.

885
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,360
So now we're in the Bible.

886
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,360
The Sonic Bible.

887
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,360
The leaked Bible.

888
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,360
That's nuts.

889
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,040
And an age before the internet that like never would have happened.

890
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,040
No.

891
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:24,640
In the first draft, this takes place on Earth in the lively town of Hardly Nebraska.

892
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,440
Oh, isn't that the movie?

893
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,440
I don't think so.

894
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,880
It's said in some small town.

895
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:29,880
Yeah.

896
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,880
Because they want to go to the big city of San Francisco.

897
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,880
Ooh.

898
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,280
The city lights San Francisco.

899
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,360
Is that what San Francisco is?

900
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,360
The windy city.

901
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,360
San Francisco.

902
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,880
I know that's what San Francisco is.

903
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,880
Land of the Lakes.

904
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,200
The Emerald City.

905
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,200
San Francisco.

906
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:51,760
So in Hardly Nebraska, we are introduced to a brown sunny, the hedgehog who lives with

907
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,160
his mother in five sisters next door.

908
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,160
Berger joint.

909
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,960
I am five sisters.

910
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,480
Sonny's father died shortly after he was born.

911
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,440
Sonny's mother would tell her children's stories of their father and how he was the fastest

912
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,160
hedge runner in the town.

913
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,280
For Sonny, he was smart and became friends with humans.

914
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,880
He even learned how to read and write from the children.

915
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,560
He would play pranks on them at the bowling alley by curling up into a ball and tricking

916
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,960
humans into picking them up instead of using a bowling ball.

917
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,960
I love this.

918
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,400
This, for the story.

919
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:31,040
A night sunny would run along the hedges training to become faster like his dad.

920
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:36,840
One night, the Hardly's track team coach was leaving the Berger joint and spotted Sonny,

921
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,800
invited Sonny to join the track team in one of multiple races.

922
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,920
Winter was approaching and unfortunately Sonny had to quit the team to hibernate.

923
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:51,520
While hibernating, Sonny was awoken by the ground shaking beneath him and a giant pipe

924
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,360
emerges from out of the ground.

925
00:44:54,360 --> 00:45:01,840
A curious Sonny climbs through the pipe and on the other end he finds a doctor Ovi Kintobr.

926
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,040
Oh my god.

927
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:09,760
He was working on a device to find chaos emerald that would help him power his machine to rid

928
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,040
the earth of pollution.

929
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,160
So far, he was able to find six out of the seven emeralds.

930
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,680
Funny for the experiment would run out and he was working independently underground.

931
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,000
He also sheltered other woodland creatures who needed an escape from the winter.

932
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,520
Sonny stayed with Kintobr and became his assistant, learning physics and computer science along

933
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,520
the way.

934
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:36,520
Sonny continued with his training and used Kintobr's supersonic treadmill to help him train

935
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,800
and would eventually break the sound barrier.

936
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:45,200
When Sonny went faster than the speed of light, his appearance changed to a cobalt blue

937
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,400
and his quills slipped back into a mohawk.

938
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,400
Awesome.

939
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,960
Kintobr gave him the nickname "Sonic."

940
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:59,240
In the lab, Sonny discovers the machine, the reverse quantum bioformulator.

941
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:04,480
Overlaunch Kintobr describes the machine and shows Sonny the six emeralds contained

942
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,560
in a lead-lined safe.

943
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:13,560
Kintobr states that these emeralds are the accumulation of all of man's inner energy

944
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:22,760
of every gross indiscussing impulsive deed.

945
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,160
The seventh emerald would help stabilize the six evil emeralds.

946
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:32,320
If successful, the scientists would launch all seven emeralds into space and rid the world

947
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,600
of evil.

948
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:39,000
If not, the amount of evil in the world would double.

949
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,720
Suddenly, a wave of radiation was headed towards the lab.

950
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:51,400
Sonny opens the safe, but accidentally turned on the reverse quantum bioformulator.

951
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:58,520
The scientists tripped and spilled the emeralds on the floor, a big beam bursts out of the bioformulator

952
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,280
and latched onto Kintobr the emeralds and a half eaten boiled egg.

953
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,280
Why?

954
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,880
Because you gotta explain in shape somehow.

955
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,000
Sonny was fast enough to escape the beam, but not Kintobr.

956
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,200
No, he's got too many eggs in his system.

957
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,520
The scientists emerge from the accident as an egg-shaped man.

958
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,840
And now goes by the name Dr. Aivo Robotik.

959
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:21,840
Eggman?

960
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:22,840
Yes.

961
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,640
There is a second draft that seems to have notes from executives that didn't change too

962
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,560
much of the story, but the third draft seems to be where a lot of the changes seem to

963
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:31,560
happen.

964
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,840
In this version, they get rid of the family back story and anything that has to do with

965
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,320
Nebraska, sorry Nebraska.

966
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,320
Sad?

967
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,880
That was my favorite part.

968
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:47,840
In this Sonic the Hedgehog is an orphan living in the Green Hill Zone on the planet Mobius.

969
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,400
He makes friends with the creatures on the planet and learns to run quickly from his friend

970
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,880
Johnny Lightfoot the Rabbit.

971
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:01,000
Sally Acorn, the squirrel, teaches him how to jump.

972
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,360
Flicky, the blue bird teaches him to be happy and fearless.

973
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,360
Not to fly.

974
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,080
Trifts the chicken teaches Sonic the spin attack.

975
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:17,920
And Parker Lewis the pig teaches him the most important skill and that is to fear fire.

976
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,920
Fire, fire, fire!

977
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,720
Get out.

978
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:23,720
One.

979
00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:25,720
Yeah.

980
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:30,120
Sonic stumbles upon Contobers Lab in the story of their time together as nearly the same.

981
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:35,800
Although they did change the name of the machine from Reverse Quantum Bioformulator to the

982
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,240
amazing transformation machine.

983
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:39,240
Clever.

984
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:41,240
I'm his rock.

985
00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:46,000
Instead of launching the Emeralds in the Space Contobre wants to store them into Mobius'

986
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,960
icy core and when the machine malfunctions it releases all the containment rings all

987
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:51,960
around Mobius.

988
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,760
Do we have more origin stories?

989
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,080
I mean we have the movies and we'll get into those.

990
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,880
Well that's why I'm like where did the movies none of those fit what they wound up doing?

991
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:01,880
Yeah.

992
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,200
That's why the movies weren't really necessary.

993
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,560
I mean I'm glad I watched that one because like I would have been like oh which one did

994
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,800
they pick and been so disappointed to find out that the fighter pilots didn't make it,

995
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,600
the family didn't make it.

996
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:15,600
All this didn't make it.

997
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,240
I'm pretty sure his mom is just like here's this bag of rings.

998
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:19,640
We didn't even get Contobur.

999
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:20,640
No.

1000
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,640
So yeah.

1001
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:27,720
He was so confused is because they had he introduces himself to James Marsden as Eggman.

1002
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:31,480
There's no Contobur at all and then I guess he's Robotnik by the end.

1003
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,320
If you know the video game you just know that he goes by Eggman and Robotnik.

1004
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,560
It's gonna confuse most audiences but for those who played the game just like oh yeah he

1005
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,560
goes by both.

1006
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,240
So glad I'm not flying blind.

1007
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:46,160
Now I do want to mention that this is the lore for the American Sonic and the Japanese

1008
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,840
lore goes into more details and amidst some of the details from the original story that

1009
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,400
we just discovered.

1010
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,760
I didn't want to bog down the episode with too many origin stories and there's more origin

1011
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:57,760
stories.

1012
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,640
And there's enough detail in this to give us an idea of where Sonic began.

1013
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,960
All the origin stories are already confusing.

1014
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,680
I just need more woodland creatures to tell me what to fear.

1015
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,840
We're already starting off all over the place.

1016
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:11,840
Yeah.

1017
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,800
And you can already understand the frustration for Sega to be like you need to follow our

1018
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,960
origin story and you're just like which one.

1019
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:18,960
Yeah.

1020
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,960
What am I gonna talk.

1021
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,960
What to do.

1022
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,240
I also kinda wish he was brown and then turned blue.

1023
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:27,320
I really like that element that he wasn't always that way.

1024
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:32,120
If they went with the idea that Sonic in Contobre were like buddies that would be the way

1025
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,120
to go about this.

1026
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,880
Yeah you would definitely care about it I think a little more.

1027
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,640
That will unfortunately conclude part one of our episode on Sonic the Hedgehog and his

1028
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,240
woodland friends.

1029
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:46,560
Join us for part two when we dive into the films that could have been and the game that

1030
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,760
destroyed STI.

1031
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,200
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1032
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1033
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1034
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:08,040
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1035
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1036
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1037
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1038
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,880
I'll go enjoy it chili dog and break the sound barrier.

1039
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