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The other day at work, I was having SpaghettiOs for lunch and it brought me down a huge rabbit

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hole of death row meals.

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And I remember a criminal.

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Not SpaghettiOs, I hope.

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No, yeah, someone's death row meal had SpaghettiOs in them and it was Thomas Joseph Grassow.

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He had a bunch of other stuff, but I remember SpaghettiOs with meatballs was definitely

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in his death row.

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I'm not going to list the rest of it.

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If you want to go ahead and search his name and see everything else that he ate, you

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can. But SpaghettiOs and meatballs was on his death row meal.

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So just have me thinking, what would be your guys' death row meal if you had to choose?

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Oh, God.

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Okay, SpaghettiOs slept, but they wouldn't be in there.

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Yeah.

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Okay, she was no straight Chef Boyardee instead.

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Oh my gosh, before he's so good, like little rabbit-o-ly's, oh my God.

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The can.

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A commercial rolling down the road.

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Absolutely.

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And you don't even have to heat that up.

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You can just eat that shit straight out the can.

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It's good at room temperature.

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Okay, so death row, and we're thinking like whatever we want, your guys are living.

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You're slurping.

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Okay.

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I want an appetizer of really good creamy lobster bisque.

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I want big chunks of lobster in there.

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I want it to just be decadent and with like a little piece of bread on the side that I

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can like dunk in, like bread and soup.

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Okay, that's just the appetizer though.

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And then the actual meal, I want just the most calorie packed, fucking cheesy enchiladas.

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And like some really good rice and beans.

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Fresh tortilla is made by like someone's Nana in the back.

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Like I want it to be good.

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And then dessert.

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Oh, dessert.

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Maybe like one of those lava cakes at Applebees because I always low-key really want one,

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but there's like 10,000 calories in it.

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And I'm always feeling like I should eat that.

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But I'm going to die.

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Give me that lava cake.

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And no, you can't have a bite.

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And I'm going to wash it all down with a couple pickle beers.

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A couple of beers.

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Yeah.

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Oh, and a nice bloody, nice bloody Mary.

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Long time listen, I'll know.

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Sean, I love your bloody Mary's.

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That meal makes no sense.

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It's super enchiladas bloody Mary's.

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Applebees, but you know what I'm going to die.

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I don't care.

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It's going to be good.

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That sounds like something I want to order when I'm the most violently hungover I have ever

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been in my entire life.

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Like that exact order.

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It's like I need all of these things.

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And then like small quantities.

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And then I'll take a nap and then I'll go at it again.

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I don't know how long they let you keep the food.

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But if you could work in a nap, then it goes back for it.

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Yeah.

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Can I take a little nap?

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Not before I die because I just need to like digest this stuff a little bit.

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Otherwise, I'm going to get a tummy ache and that's like I'm going to be comfort anybody.

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Remember, like years ago I went to Vegas with my girlfriends.

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And Jessica, who I mentioned on the show all the time, was like, I really want spaghetti,

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but I also really want mashed potatoes.

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Um, so the server brought her spaghetti and mashed potatoes.

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And it was incredible.

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And since then I've been like, you know what?

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Screw it.

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And I'm like, I'm going to get a little nap.

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It's actually kind of funny.

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It's David Edwin Mason.

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He murdered four people.

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We don't feel bad for him.

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We don't feel bad for him.

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We don't feel bad for him.

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I'm the first one that I found was fictor, thugor, or faggot.

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I'm the first one that I found was fictor, thugor, or fictor.

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I'm the first one that I found was fictor, thugor, or fictor.

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I'm the first one that I found was fictor, thugor, or fictor.

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I'm the first one that I found was fictor, thugor, or fictor.

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I'm the first one that I found was fictor, thugor or fictor.

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I'm the first one that I found was fictor, thugor or fictor.

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I'm the first one that I found was fictor, thugor, or fictor.

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I'm the first one that I found was fictor, thugor or fictor.

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Yes we do.

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Welcome to the pop culture junkie podcast.

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I'm Nicole here with my fellow junkies.

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Olivia.

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And Shana.

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How are you both doing today?

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Fans, have you list?

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I am on vacation as a five o'clock out of offices on truly canned, open,

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pants, non-existent.

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It's great, it's great time to be alive.

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How about you guys?

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I'm doing well, I'll do very well.

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I had a fun weekend hanging around with Nicole.

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And you know, we kicked Shana out, we said you can't sit with us.

472
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No, it was cruel.

473
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It was cruel, I was unusual.

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It was a good time.

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I can't remember the last time we recorded, but a separate time, Shana and I got to go to a

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Barbie Brave, which was the most fun.

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So yeah, we've just been doing really fun things, really fun themed things.

478
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I love a good theme night, dude.

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Oh my God, that reminds me, I want to talk about Jonah Hill for a second.

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Oh, okay.

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Oh my God.

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So Jonah Hill's ex-girlfriend Sarah Brady released these text messages between the two of them recently.

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That just kind of breaks down what a controlling douche.

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She was in their relationship.

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She's a model and a surfer.

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And in his text messages, he's telling her that she has to delete every picture of herself

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wearing a bathing suit of her surfing, of her modeling, and that he doesn't want her spending time

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with like the women with, I don't know, from her wild recent past or something.

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And ladies and gentlemen, if anybody tries to like therapy talk you, like, I'm just setting my boundaries.

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Yeah, the unstable women from her wild recent past.

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No.

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No, those aren't boundaries. That's him being controlling and that's a narcissist and run away.

493
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It's crazy.

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One of my favorite comedians, Claire Parker, they do a podcast as well.

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But she's like been saying this since the like the last two years.

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She's like, we need to stop letting men go to therapy because they're not using it to get better.

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They're using it to get stronger.

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And like more manipulative.

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And I think it's so funny because the second all this drop, she like clipped to a piece of it and was like, I told her I love this.

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But it's something about this on her Instagram the other day.

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She's like, if you're going to therapy just so you can learn therapy buzzwords to weaponize them against other people,

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then you're not actually doing the work of going to therapy.

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You're just, I don't know, being a fake ally.

504
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Yeah, yeah. And if you're just going there to have someone like hear your side of the story and not like work through things or with a goal.

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Like, hey, hear the things that I'm like trying to actively improve.

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It can, it can feel like a sounding board.

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And I'm sure, you know, I mean therapists are people too, right?

508
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Like celebrities have this insane power over everyone.

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And so it's very interesting.

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It is interesting. So I don't know that shit. It's just been cracking me up for days.

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Shout out to all the wild and stable women from my recent past.

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Honestly, love you guys.

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Recent past being this last weekend when we all like took a million shots together.

514
00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,640
You guys are the real MVP is speaking of taking a million shots.

515
00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:35,640
Sean and I posted this review of drink 818 on our Instagram and the social media manager for 818 must have just been liking it in a, in a Tizzy before she actually like listen to the video.

516
00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,640
Because I say let's taste the cultural appropriation.

517
00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,640
I'm like, let's say this white bitch can make a good tequila and then Nicole sex.

518
00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:49,640
So she's like, 818 liked it. Wait, never mind. They unlike.

519
00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,640
So we are never getting a PR box ever.

520
00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,640
No, right.

521
00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,640
But I got blocked.

522
00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,640
It got lost in the mail. It has to be on its way.

523
00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:07,640
We we're going to try other ones. Hopefully our our man George Clooney doesn't do us as dirty.

524
00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:15,640
So I need some like actual like people from the Latinx community to like have some tequila to try.

525
00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,640
I don't want to try anymore.

526
00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,640
Like cultural preparation tequila.

527
00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:31,640
I was just swear every famous person needs either coming out with a alcoholic drink or an energy drink because now Kim Kardashian just came out with an energy drink.

528
00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:40,640
Oh my god. And Jake Paul I believe is getting like the Paul brothers. I'm not sure if it's Jake or I don't know the ones between the two of them either.

529
00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,640
They're getting slammed for how much energy is put into their drink.

530
00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,640
I think one energy drink. There's has the amount of caffeine of six coaks.

531
00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,640
Jesus Christ. Yeah. And they don't know. It's totally fine. And I'm like, that is not okay.

532
00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,640
It's not okay.

533
00:15:54,640 --> 00:16:02,640
Yeah. I'm like, either every celebrity either has alcohol or an energy drink. So I'm like, okay, well, I guess that's the new thing nowadays.

534
00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:08,640
Dude, let's do. Okay. So we're going to do the celebrity taste test thing. And I know we've talked about it before.

535
00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,640
And Olivia and I will try all the booze and Nicole, you can try all the energy drinks.

536
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,640
I'm down for that.

537
00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,640
We have to do it like 11 a.m.

538
00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,640
So I'm not bouncing off the walls like when I'm trying to go to sleep.

539
00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:33,640
The day before we all of us have to just chug water. We need to eat lots of vegetables and like chug water and just go into it is healthy and sober as we can.

540
00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:39,640
And then we have to record it obviously. So we're doing this for our fans.

541
00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:44,640
Order 20 pizzas the day of and just show pizzas in our mouth.

542
00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:51,640
Yeah, that later that day after we turn off the camera, we're going to carload absolutely. We're going to get some water and a.

543
00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,640
That's typically my go to.

544
00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,640
That's typically my go to. I felt like I was just like the pizza lady the Saturday.

545
00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:03,640
It was our friends birthday party and we were down at the pool and I've made burgers and stuff and then we ran out of that.

546
00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,640
And then I just like went upstairs made a pizza came down with it. Went upstairs made another pizza.

547
00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,640
Just kept giving out pizza everywhere. It's like, what am I doing right now?

548
00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:19,640
You made a burger and I haven't stopped thinking about it for days. It was just so cheesy and like I did put a lot of cheese on it though.

549
00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,640
It was really good.

550
00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:22,640
Yeah.

551
00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,640
Oh my god. And then I've been into just like cooking shows for the past two weeks too.

552
00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,640
Andrew and I are obsessed with next level chef. It's this like Gordon Ramsey show.

553
00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,640
And I'm usually a little if young Gordon Ramsey just because he's a little too mean.

554
00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:44,640
I don't know. If I watch a cooking show I want it to be like great British baking show where they're all just really nice to each other.

555
00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:49,640
And that looks delightful. Do you need some cream? You can use some of mine.

556
00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:55,640
And then Gordon Ramsey is just like, what the fuck is this? This looks like diarrhea.

557
00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:00,640
I would fry. I don't think I can handle myself around Gordon Ramsey.

558
00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:07,640
It enters like, yeah, I need some meanness. I need people to cry on television. So I watch next level chef.

559
00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:14,640
And he actually feels like he's toned down the meanness a little bit. He's definitely like, he feels like he's old.

560
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,640
He's an old grandpa now.

561
00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:23,640
Yeah, but like still kind of daddy. I go back and forth a lot on whether or not he's fuckable.

562
00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,640
But also I feel like he'd scream at me the entire time but not in a good way.

563
00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:32,640
You call that a blow job. This is awful.

564
00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,640
I think I'm like, I think that's probably why I would do it.

565
00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,640
You're into a punishment thing. Tell me how bad it is.

566
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:46,640
And that's why you go to therapy with the goal.

567
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,640
Oh my gosh, speaking of hot ones, Nicole, I know you really like hot ones.

568
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:59,640
His is probably one of my favorite ones. You call these fucking chicken wings. Can I sponsor your chicken wings next time?

569
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,640
It was like a couple years ago and I was watching newer ones.

570
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:09,640
And I think I think he actually did it because their chicken wings are much bigger now.

571
00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,640
Some of the chicken wings are really bad. They're like little dinky things. I'm like, that is not it.

572
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,640
I need a chicken wing. I need that shit to be like, yeah.

573
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,640
Like I want the juicy meat too. It's incredible.

574
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:28,640
If it's incredibly hot sauce and then it's a dry ass piece of chicken, like what?

575
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,640
No. No, if I'm going to eat the bomb, it needs to be on a juicy piece of chicken.

576
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,640
Let's talk more about food.

577
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:45,640
We need to get off the topic of food and how hungry we are.

578
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:57,640
So we kind of been on the topic of murders, killers, true crime.

579
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,640
I feel like today with our conversation.

580
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:07,640
So what I want to continue with our conversation is murder or true crime in general.

581
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,640
Murder.

582
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,640
Murder.

583
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,640
Murder most foul.

584
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,640
Because you know, spooky season is upon us.

585
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,640
I know the minute you want to use it over.

586
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,640
Yes, I agree. The minute for the July is over, even before the July.

587
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,640
I don't care.

588
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,640
It's spooky season baby.

589
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,640
The stores are putting out all of their Halloween decorations.

590
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,640
You know, I am all about them.

591
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,640
Me too.

592
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,640
And my birthday is on October, Friday, the 13th this year.

593
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,640
I'm just so excited.

594
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,640
So that's my spooky era.

595
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:51,640
So with that, let's go ahead and talk about our favorite murder documentary or documentary.

596
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,640
We can have more than one if you want.

597
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,640
But I just want to hear yours because I'm a true crime junkie.

598
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:04,640
So tell me some that maybe I haven't watched yet that I can watch and for the viewers as well and just get into it.

599
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,640
I love that.

600
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,640
Okay.

601
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,640
I am like one of those people who is just like really, really bad at a favorite.

602
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,640
So I'm probably gonna end up saying like 15 million of this.

603
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,640
But just gonna put that out there.

604
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,640
Everyone's gonna be like, she said that was her favorite.

605
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,640
They're all my favorite children.

606
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:30,640
So I don't know if this person technically qualifies as a serial killer.

607
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,640
But they have, I mean, I think three qualifies.

608
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,640
We're gonna say three qualifies.

609
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:42,640
But it is absolutely my favorite documentary, probably of HBO's.

610
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,640
And it's called The Jinks.

611
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,640
So I don't know if you guys have ever seen this.

612
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,640
It is about Robert Durst.

613
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,640
He's an American real estate air.

614
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:56,640
Think kind of like the Trump family, but more successful.

615
00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:01,640
One of the biggest real estate owners in New York.

616
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,640
They own a lot of Manhattan.

617
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,640
And so they're incredibly successful.

618
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:11,640
And so Robert Durst is the first son of Seymour Durst.

619
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:17,640
And initially he was supposed to inherit the family business and all this stuff.

620
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:23,640
And it ends up going to the, his younger brother.

621
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,640
And so he's always just kind of in like the black sheep, this outcast.

622
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,640
People have always kind of wondered why, like what's his story?

623
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:39,640
Well, in like 1982, his wife goes missing and was last seen at their New York apartment high rise.

624
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,640
Her whole family thinks that it is Robert Durst, right?

625
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,640
Mm-hmm.

626
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,640
And they never catch him for it.

627
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,640
And then there's this movie that's created.

628
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,640
It's called All Good Things.

629
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,640
It's by Andrew Jurekki.

630
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,640
It has Ryan Gosling and Kirsten Dunst.

631
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,640
And it's about the story of his wife going missing.

632
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,640
And Kirsten Dunst is his wife and then Ryan Gosling is playing Robert Durst, right?

633
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,640
I said this movie, right?

634
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,640
And so it's really, really good.

635
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,640
It's an amazing movie.

636
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:18,640
But what's crazier is so after this movie comes out, Robert Durst contacts the director, Andrew Jurekki.

637
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,640
And says, I've been asked to do a million interviews.

638
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,640
I've said no to all of them.

639
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,640
You're the only person who understands Robert Durst.

640
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,640
And I want you to make a documentary about me.

641
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:40,640
And so if you've seen the movie All Good Things, you know that he is tried for killing a man in Galveston as well.

642
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,640
He was pretending to be a woman, a mute woman in her 80s.

643
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:46,640
Let's get to see.

644
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,640
Doesn't he dress up like a woman at some point in that movie?

645
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,640
Yes.

646
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,640
And it's a freaking crazy story.

647
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,640
But he gets off for murder because it's Texas and he gets self-defense.

648
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,640
But he does get a proper disposal of a body.

649
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,640
But because he had spent so much time in jail, they let him go or whatever.

650
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,640
So he really just kind of like gets out of jail.

651
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,640
So he starts freaking making this documentary.

652
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,640
And I don't want to ruin the end of it.

653
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,640
But he's now in jail because of the stocky battery.

654
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,640
Because of the documentary.

655
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,640
Dang dude.

656
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,640
It's like one of the craziest stories in the world.

657
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,640
Yeah.

658
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,640
Yeah.

659
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,640
So he thinks that his mic is off.

660
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,640
And it's not.

661
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,640
And so they use it to convict him.

662
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,640
And he like kid vases.

663
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,640
Yeah.

664
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,640
Dang.

665
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,640
Okay.

666
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,640
I need to watch this.

667
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,640
It's literally the one of the best tree crime documentaries ever.

668
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,640
And you know, talk a lot about like ethical, old, true crime.

669
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,640
And like I think it's such a nuanced conversation.

670
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,640
But one is that you don't really do get justice for.

671
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,640
There's a bunch of other people that were also killed.

672
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,640
Or one of the person who was killed was processed.

673
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,640
And it's like, that's how you actually get justice for a lot of these people.

674
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,640
I agree.

675
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,640
Unfortunately, it gets done well.

676
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,640
If it's done.

677
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,640
That's why I like unsolved mysteries a lot.

678
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:17,640
Because the amount of like murders and crimes that they have solved just by people watching it.

679
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,640
And then calling in, it's incredible.

680
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,640
And it's entertainment.

681
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,640
So we watch it for the dramatizations and to all kind of speculate.

682
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,640
But there's somebody out there who somebody knows something.

683
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,640
I think that's another true crime podcast.

684
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,640
That's called somebody knows something.

685
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,640
And they just, you know, there's somebody out there.

686
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,640
And they can call in and I like it when the entertainment can come to a conclusion.

687
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,640
That's nice.

688
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,640
Hell yeah.

689
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,640
What about you Nicole?

690
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,640
One of my favorites is the Chris Watts.

691
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,640
Confessions of a killer.

692
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,640
Oh, yeah.

693
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,640
And I believe it was on lifetime.

694
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,640
The one I saw.

695
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,640
I know there's like multiple different ones.

696
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,640
You can stream that one on Netflix now.

697
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,640
Okay.

698
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,640
Cool.

699
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,640
This one is just, it breaks your heartstrings.

700
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,640
It is so sad.

701
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:16,640
If you don't know the story of Chris Watts, he killed his wife, two daughters, an unborn son,

702
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,640
his wife, who's pregnant with their son.

703
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:26,640
And I believe she and who is his wife was considered missing by her best friend Nicole.

704
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,640
And Nicole went over to the house and Chris was home and everything.

705
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,640
And she and was not there.

706
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,640
And the daughters weren't there.

707
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,640
And she found a suspicious.

708
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,640
So she called the cops and was like, hey, she and not home, but her cars here.

709
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,640
So there's just something not right.

710
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,640
She's normal home.

711
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,640
So the cops came.

712
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,640
The cops investigated the house.

713
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,640
They found her phone in between the couch cushions.

714
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,640
They found her purse at home.

715
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,640
They later found that Chris was telling lies at the house.

716
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,640
Like he was cooperating with police and then he wasn't cooperating with the police.

717
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,640
Yeah.

718
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,640
They later found out that he ended up murdering them.

719
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,640
And the way he killed them is absolutely insane.

720
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,640
I know he worked out like a factory kind of thing.

721
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,640
I don't know what it was actually called, but it was a construction site.

722
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,640
Yeah.

723
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,640
There's these little poles, like literally the size of my hands making a circle.

724
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:27,640
Listeners, if you obviously can't see me right now, but if you just put your hands together and make a circle,

725
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,640
that's probably the size of what I'm talking about.

726
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:37,640
He literally put his kids' bodies in that big of a circle and just squeeze their bodies down this small to kill them.

727
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,640
I believe they were dead at the time.

728
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,640
I'm not too sure on that.

729
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,640
Oh my God.

730
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,640
He squeezed their dead bodies in a small tube like that.

731
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,640
And they were gone.

732
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,640
And I literally just got you all saying that.

733
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,640
Yeah.

734
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,640
So did I.

735
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,640
That's disgusting.

736
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,640
She was having, they were having a real problem.

737
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,640
She knew that he was cheating, but didn't really know 100% sure.

738
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,640
He was cheating on her with a girl named Nicole, which ironically was her best friend.

739
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,640
That's gonna say it wasn't the best friend.

740
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:12,640
It was a woman named Nicole Kessinger who works with them at the same site.

741
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,640
Big fat alleged here, allegedly, allegedly.

742
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,640
So she is very interesting.

743
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:28,640
The documentary doesn't really go into her involvement, but there is a big part of it where he was on the phone with her.

744
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:36,640
She had a lot of that morning, what spent hours, and she's like claiming that these calls didn't happen in the cops collar on it and all this stuff.

745
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:44,640
And she is really weirdly connected to this cult called Opus Day as well.

746
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,640
And they're very like satanicky, creepy.

747
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,640
So like she's got a lot of stuff going on.

748
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,640
But I don't trust that girlfriend.

749
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,640
I think she helped.

750
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,640
And I think that man is a monster.

751
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,640
She is, dude.

752
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,640
Okay, one more time. What's this documentary called?

753
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,640
It is called Chris Watts Confessions of a Killer.

754
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:11,640
And in the documentary, they show the actual site of where he put their bodies.

755
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,640
Oh, we know you love that shit.

756
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:21,640
Yeah, obviously it's like super sad, but yeah, but it's so see the actual places where it happened.

757
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,640
Yeah, and they were in $450,000 worth of debt.

758
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:35,640
So yeah, they were just having struggles and she ended up getting a job and like they were able to get through it and see, yeah, I don't know what was going on.

759
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,640
There was had that he had to kill his kids as well.

760
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,640
I just, I don't know.

761
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,640
I really don't know how to go through people's heads that they have to kill children.

762
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,640
I mean, obviously I don't know how it has to go through your head to kill your wife or just any human being, but children.

763
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,640
You kill your entire family like that. Something is snapped inside of you.

764
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,640
Yeah.

765
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,640
And it's just you, you're going all in.

766
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,640
You're just committing to the entire abluration of your family.

767
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,640
Well, what's so messed up about him too is once he knew like he was fully caught.

768
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:09,640
He said that she killed the kids and an anger he killed her.

769
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,640
Oh, my God.

770
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,640
And everyone goes like, "True.

771
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,640
There is no way she would harm a single hair on any of those babies."

772
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,640
Yeah.

773
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,640
Scom, scum, scum, scum, scum.

774
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,640
Mm-hmm.

775
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,640
And people like find him good looking.

776
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,640
Like he's another like Ted Bundy kind.

777
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,640
That makes me so much positive and stuff.

778
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,640
So it's just, yeah.

779
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,640
Mm-hmm.

780
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,640
I was listening to an episode recently of Wine and Crime Podcast, which I love.

781
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:40,640
And they were talking about the phenomenon of women who fall in love with like serial killers and write them letters from prison and stuff.

782
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:47,640
And part of it is just that like you know that he is locked down in one place.

783
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,640
So he's not going out and seeing other women.

784
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,640
He's not cheating on you.

785
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,640
And you feel, you feel needed finally.

786
00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:00,640
Like there's somebody there who needs you because you're the only one there there for them.

787
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,640
You're the only one helping them.

788
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,640
It's so finally you're like, "Here's a man who really truly needs me."

789
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,640
And I don't know.

790
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:14,640
It's psychological like whoops, you people jump through to fall in love with serial killers or think that they're attractive like that.

791
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,640
And that's just nuts.

792
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,640
Mm-hmm.

793
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Mm-hmm.

794
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,640
Yeah. I mean if those people aren't going to the other side while they're there.

795
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,640
Yeah.

796
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,640
Yeah.

797
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,640
Dude, right?

798
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,640
Gosh, I don't know if I have like a favorite one.

799
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,640
I listen to a lot more of like true crime podcasts than watch documentaries.

800
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,640
So I listen to my favorite murder.

801
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,640
And then I started from the very beginning.

802
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,640
And now I'm through like 300, 300 episodes of "Wine and Crime" podcast.

803
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,640
I love it so much.

804
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:49,640
So definitely going to pop that and suggest people listen to that when they're not listening to pop culture junkies obviously.

805
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:56,640
But a documentary that I recently watched on Netflix is called The Hatchet, "Wielding Hitchhiker."

806
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,640
Have you guys heard of this at all?

807
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,640
Okay.

808
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,640
Yes. So it came out in 2023.

809
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,640
Yes. And it is about this Hitchhiker named Caleb McGilvery.

810
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,640
He goes by Kai.

811
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:27,640
In 2013, he goes completely viral after he's involved in like a car accident where the driver of the car is claiming to be Jesus Christ himself and is kind of going through like a psychiatric episode.

812
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:39,640
Kai gets out in or of his car to defend this woman and takes out a hatchet that he had in his backpack because he was an unhoused person at the time traveling around.

813
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:45,640
And later there is and he defends this woman saves her knocks the guy out with a hatchet.

814
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:51,640
So a local Fox affiliate shows up to cover the scene and interviews Kai right there on the spot.

815
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:57,640
And he says the quote, "Smash, smash, smash, smash."

816
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,640
And this clip just goes viral, right?

817
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,640
He's on the Jimmy Camel show.

818
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,640
He's on Inside Edition.

819
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,640
I was watching this documentary and the amount of views this video got was just insane.

820
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,640
Like he is just a viral overnight sensation.

821
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,640
He's getting interviews left and right.

822
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,640
People are pitching him his own TV show.

823
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,640
They want him to do like a pop culture review show.

824
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:33,640
But this guy on one hand, okay, it comes out that he spoiler alert murders somebody.

825
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,640
And we'll get to that in a minute.

826
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:42,640
But everything that leads up to it, instead of kind of giving this guy psychiatric care, which he obviously needed,

827
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,640
or any kind of housing support medical care.

828
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:54,640
Living on the streets, he obviously needs some kind of, I don't know, somebody to talk to, somebody who really cares about him.

829
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,640
It kind of seems like everybody's exploiting him for money because he went so viral with this news clip, right?

830
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:08,640
So he is kind of basking in the quote unquote fame of being a viral sensation.

831
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:14,640
So a couple months later, he's arrested for murder charges after he's kind of couch surfing at this point.

832
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,640
Because like I said, nobody is really giving him housing support.

833
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:24,640
And he at the time is staying with this man named Joseph McAlphy.

834
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,640
And he is arrested for the murder of said man.

835
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:37,640
He says that McAlphy trigger warning tried to rape him, take advantage of him, and that he fought back in self defense.

836
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:45,640
All of the evidence pointed towards Kai just obliterating this man, just salottering him in his house, right?

837
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:52,640
And then it quote comes out from Kai that says, quote, "Do you know how many hot chicks never mind?

838
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:59,640
Even if I was gay, do you know how many hot guys wanted to fuck me after that shit in California, the viral video?

839
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,640
I'm not even being vain. It's just a fact. Like no offense.

840
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,640
But he was not a looker talking about the guy that he murdered.

841
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,640
I can hear him saying excuse me, he was not a looker, David.

842
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:17,640
Which is why everybody was like, oh he couldn't have done it. It's just Kai looking at him.

843
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,640
He wouldn't hurt a flea. Okay, well he did fight a guy with a hatchet.

844
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,640
And brutally like a tag someone.

845
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:35,640
And if you, I throughout the documentary, they kind of talk about other times that he's kind of had violent tendencies and shown that he can be a little unstable.

846
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:43,640
But yeah, fans raised a legal fund for him saying that it had to have been self defense because it's Kai.

847
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:55,640
He took the stand in his own defense was super competitive during cross examination, had an outburst, the judge and Jerry found him guilty of first degree murder.

848
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:04,640
He is in prison for 57 years. So I still use that gift sometimes and I feel bad.

849
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,640
Smush, smush, so much.

850
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaking of people who tried to defend themselves, that Ted Bundy documentary, it's really, really good as well.

851
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,640
The one on Netflix is great, they talk a lot about it. But there's one on Amazon.

852
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:28,640
That is done from the perspective of his ex girlfriend, the one that actually ended up turning him in and it was.

853
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,640
Of Ted Bundy's ex girlfriend.

854
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:44,640
And it's a little bit more focused on the perspective of victims, how he was conniving and it's called Ted Bundy falling for a killer.

855
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,640
So it's really, really interesting. The women still alive.

856
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:56,640
If you saw the movie with Zach Efron that they did about Ted Bundy, it's the one that, oh my god, I almost just called her Emily in Paris.

857
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Really Collins plays that Emily from Paris plays, that was a Collins plays.

858
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:10,640
And it's just, it's, it's a little bit more like focused on the women and the story of Elizabeth Kendall.

859
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,640
So I would definitely recommend that one as well.

860
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,640
I know I mentioned it a couple episodes ago, but love and death on HBO is amazing.

861
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:26,640
It's about Candy Montgomery murdering her lover's wife Betty with an axe.

862
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:35,640
Lots of minor with hatchets and axes. And she, we're keeps saying spoiler alert, but whatever, these are all from like the 80s and shit.

863
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:44,640
She ends up getting off on that one on self defense, but it's just interesting to see how they get there and how many times she.

864
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,640
And then she acts to this woman to death and just kind of, you know, her snapping and stuff.

865
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:56,640
So definitely going to pop that one too. And then finally, my last one is the staircase.

866
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,640
So good.

867
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:07,640
Dude, right. Okay. So there is a show and it's based on the documentary, which is based on, I mean, a book and just all sorts of, you know, things that happened with this trial.

868
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:14,640
But it's about Michael Peterson getting convicted for killing his wife Kathleen Peterson.

869
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:22,640
He's saying that she fell down a flight of stairs, but it's I believe he absolutely killed her.

870
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:29,640
And then there's a theory called owl theory that comes out that maybe there's an owl that flew in the window and murdered her.

871
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,640
Yeah, but that part's crazy.

872
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,640
My husband and I reference a lot, which is probably kind of fucked up where we're like, no one will know.

873
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,640
If I just ended you right now, owl theory.

874
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,640
Yeah. So too funny things.

875
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,640
First of all, I left that documentary. I've been like, he didn't do it.

876
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,640
Really? I've eaten it.

877
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,640
So I, but the HBO shows shows a very different angle of it.

878
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,640
Yeah.

879
00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:05,640
What is interesting, though, is so the producer and like the main editor of that documentary, like falls in love with Michael Peterson.

880
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,640
Yes. And that's why it seems so.

881
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,640
Like, it's very, very biased.

882
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,640
Yeah.

883
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:24,640
But also at the same time, like the way a bisexual man was treated, like there was, like it's such an interesting layered frickin case where there's all these different things to it.

884
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:33,640
But speaking of an owl, I can't remember the name of the case, but there is this case that was like reopened.

885
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,640
And like they were able to find kind of like new evidence for it.

886
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:47,640
It didn't stand in court, but this guy's parrot ends up repeating his murder back over and over and over again.

887
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,640
What? That just sounds like season two of only murders in the building.

888
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,640
No, it is literally a real story.

889
00:39:54,640 --> 00:40:02,640
And so this parrot, like, is like repeating it and it's doing the two different voices of the person where he's like, don't show.

890
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,640
And it's crazy.

891
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,640
But yeah, so those are the, that's what came to mind immediately.

892
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,640
Murderous birds.

893
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,640
Or birds who help out.

894
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,640
Birds who help out.

895
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:13,640
Yeah.

896
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,640
Yeah.

897
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,640
I don't know.

898
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,640
This is good stuff, you guys.

899
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,640
I don't know.

900
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,640
It does come back to that conversation.

901
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:28,640
If we listen to true crime, or you kind of like aiding, or I mean, is it problematic to be into true crime?

902
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:35,640
Or I don't know. Why do we find so much, is it exploitative to be interested in true crime?

903
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:42,640
To the amount that people are to like relive in these people's terror and sadness.

904
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,640
And then we all find kind of joy out of it.

905
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,640
But I don't know.

906
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,640
Is it, is it messed up or is it, do you think it's okay?

907
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,640
I think there's a really large conversation around ethical true crime, right?

908
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,640
How do you consume it?

909
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,640
We've talked about cases that have been solved.

910
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,640
I think it really goes to, is the family okay with it?

911
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,640
Yeah.

912
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Like the survivors, or the survivors as a whole, are they okay with it?

913
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,640
Are we glamourizing?

914
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,640
Yeah.

915
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:10,640
I'm telling her.

916
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,640
Yeah.

917
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,640
Like that was a big criticism of the Ted Bundy Netflix documentary.

918
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,640
It was like, you really didn't talk about these 30 women who lost their lives.

919
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,640
And the family wasn't okay with that show, right?

920
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,640
They weren't.

921
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,640
Yeah.

922
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,640
So they weren't really involved.

923
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,640
They weren't as contacted.

924
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,640
They kind of like show some of these women for like less than 10 seconds.

925
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,640
And so I think it really comes to that.

926
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,640
But I mean, like, you know, with so many podcasts, like if Tenderfoot TV,

927
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:45,640
they're a big production network, pain Lindsay, like they've solved a ton of crime

928
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,640
and helped police get to these things.

929
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,640
And unfortunately there are so many unsolved murders.

930
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,640
There are so many underfunded cold case departments.

931
00:41:54,640 --> 00:42:02,640
And they don't have the resources to go back and just test this DNA until there is a compelling reason

932
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,640
where they have a narrative that they can tell to a judge.

933
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,640
They can sign off.

934
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,640
So I think there are ways to do it.

935
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,640
Unfortunately, like I look at like Idaho for that just happened.

936
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,640
Like it can get very, very bad.

937
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,640
People were harassed.

938
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,640
Like one of the girls had a boyfriend and they had just broken up.

939
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,640
And people were harassing this man.

940
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,640
And like he just went through an immense trauma and all this stuff.

941
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,640
And so I think people who like to consume true crime,

942
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:39,640
come at it from a place of what I want to help, especially in active investigations

943
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,640
or oh, I want to know what I can avoid, especially as women.

944
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,640
And you know, what steps can I take?

945
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,640
Don't get sexy and don't get murdered.

946
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,640
Yeah.

947
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,640
Well, yeah, it's crazy.

948
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,640
Ted Bunny is like 30 victims.

949
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,640
Like I look exactly like them, right?

950
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,640
And so it's like there's this like morbid fascination of like, how do I avoid it?

951
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,640
But like you'll you'll never be able to.

952
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,640
Yeah.

953
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,640
And there's not the victims' fault ever if anything happens to them.

954
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:07,640
I agree.

955
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,640
Like it's all just kind of that fine line between with we make sure that we center the victim in these things.

956
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,640
We remember they were real people.

957
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,640
And if people it's important to understand and realize that

958
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:23,640
the majority of victims in crimes and murders like this are women and they're women of color a lot of the times.

959
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,640
And when these crimes happen to women of color,

960
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,640
there aren't as many resources put into solving them and to finding the people who committed them.

961
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,640
We see that in the news sometimes if a white woman is missing, you know,

962
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,640
everybody in their mom is out looking for her.

963
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,640
But if we bring attention to these cases of missing Indigenous murdered women,

964
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,640
just trans people who are missing and facing violent crimes,

965
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,640
then the more we talk about it, it kind of brings it to the forefront.

966
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,640
So I can see that too when it comes to consuming true crime.

967
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:52,640
Yeah.

968
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,640
Absolutely.

969
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,640
Well, everybody, listen to it.

970
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,640
Stand up the woods.

971
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,640
Don't talk to strangers.

972
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,640
Stay sexy and don't get murdered.

973
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,640
And don't sue us for using that tagline.

974
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:01,640
There you go.

975
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,640
So sexy and don't get murdered.

976
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:05,640
We love you.

977
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,640
We love you.

978
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,640
I do want to give like a dishonorory mention.

979
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,640
Yes.

980
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,640
To the John Wayne Gacy Devlin disguise on peacock.

981
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,640
And it's not like a documentary.

982
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,640
It's actually a sit down interview with him.

983
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,640
Yeah, I know.

984
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,640
That's why it's a dishonorory.

985
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,640
I think those are so interesting though.

986
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,640
It is because I think this is the only one he ever did to where he sat down

987
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,640
and interviewed with someone about his stuff like in everything.

988
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,640
Is he remorseful at all?

989
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,640
Yeah, he seems to be.

990
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,640
I don't really know.

991
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,640
I mean, yeah.

992
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,640
He's the clown killer, right?

993
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:47,640
Yeah.

994
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:48,640
Yeah.

995
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:49,640
Yeah.

996
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,640
Yeah.

997
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,640
He's sorry.

998
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,640
He got arrested or sorry that he killed about people.

999
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:53,640
Exactly.

1000
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:54,640
Definitely.

1001
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:55,640
I got arrested.

1002
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,640
What does he say?

1003
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,640
I mean, he's the one that led the police to where the first body was found.

1004
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,640
Yeah.

1005
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,640
But exactly.

1006
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,640
I mean, he killed like 33 kids.

1007
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:05,640
So.

1008
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,640
Yeah, dressing up as a clown and like going to kids birthday parties and shit, right?

1009
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:09,640
Yeah.

1010
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,640
Oh man.

1011
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,640
Oh.

1012
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,640
Oh.

1013
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:13,640
Creep.

1014
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:14,640
Interesting fact.

1015
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,640
Not a fun fact.

1016
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:16,640
It's again about murder.

1017
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,640
It's an unfun fact.

1018
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:27,640
When I lived in Chicago, I lived in that county, Cook County, and where you see at your birthday party?

1019
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,640
Definitely.

1020
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,640
We're in the same age range.

1021
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,640
I lived in this age too.

1022
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,640
I was going to say, "It's like a misdefinity."

1023
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:34,640
So, yeah.

1024
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,640
Nicole and I have the same morbid obsessions before that.

1025
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:46,120
And then another fun one is when I left Chicago, I lived in Austin as well and I lived in Travis

1026
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,640
County, which is where the Texas Shainsaw Massacre happened.

1027
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:51,640
Nope.

1028
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,640
Nope.

1029
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:57,640
So, yeah, that movie came out when I was like in fifth grade, the Jessica Biel one.

1030
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,640
But I'm to Jessica Biel, not to the movie.

1031
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,640
The same movie.

1032
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,640
But, no, I was shitting my pants.

1033
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,640
Oh my God.

1034
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,640
It freaked me out so much.

1035
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,640
But I love that movie.

1036
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,640
I think of those things and I'm like, "No one are so demented.

1037
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,640
I grew up where serial killers were.

1038
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,640
There's something in the soil."

1039
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,640
There's something in the water.

1040
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,640
Don't worry.

1041
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,640
I'm not doing murder.

1042
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,640
I'm not doing murder.

1043
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,640
Okay.

1044
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,640
I just like to talk about it.

1045
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,640
I'm not going to do it.

1046
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:28,640
I'm just thinking about it.

1047
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:29,640
I'm just thinking.

1048
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:36,760
I'm gonna have a Robert Jers moment and confess to it all here.

1049
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,700
Next time I bet you're placing, you're like, you can just sleep on the couch, it's fine.

1050
00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:42,300
No, no, just sleep in bed with me.

1051
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:44,600
Now, I'll be like, I don't know.

1052
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,340
You're just gonna go.

1053
00:46:46,340 --> 00:46:47,340
No, no.

1054
00:46:47,340 --> 00:46:53,280
We all know if I shut my door, you would just charge in and be like, I got it.

1055
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,680
I get a sliver to sleep with the bad too.

1056
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:56,680
Oh, is that it?

1057
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,680
No if it's okay.

1058
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:58,680
It's okay.

1059
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,680
I don't want to call you.

1060
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,680
I'll call you.

1061
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:03,680
I'll call you.

1062
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,680
I'll call you.

1063
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:06,680
I'll call you.

1064
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:07,680
I'll call you.

1065
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:08,680
Dude, you fade, man.

1066
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:09,680
I'll be an easy murder victim.

1067
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,480
Yeah, man take away is from the podcast.

1068
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:17,920
If you wanna win Nicole's heart, make her potatoes, also just feed Sean at anything and she'll

1069
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,920
let you murder her.

1070
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:19,920
Absolutely.

1071
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,720
I will die for cheese.

1072
00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:24,720
Especially if it's like soft, stinky cheese.

1073
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:26,720
Actually, please don't kill me.

1074
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:27,720
I'm just so hungry.

1075
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:29,720
I'm just like, I can do anything for cheese.

1076
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:37,680
Well, on that note, I hope we all go make our death remeals without the death and have

1077
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:38,680
the best night.

1078
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:39,680
All right.

1079
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,360
Where can the people find you?

1080
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:47,680
You could find me on Instagram and TikTok at Nicole_Edridge and on Twitter 

1081
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,880
@naeldridge14

1082
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,040
You could find me on Instagram @livimariez

1083
00:47:54,040 --> 00:48:04,040
L-I-V-I-M-A-R-I-E-Z and on TikTok @livyolife420 and that's L-I-V...

1084
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,040
What's the first one you've been?

1085
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,040
Blasic.

1086
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:18,040
That's why I never gave my TikTok the first time and I was like, I'm not changing it.

1087
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:25,040
Whatever, dude, we're adults.

1088
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,040
You can find me at Shauna.

1089
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:33,040
It's ShaunaTrinidadCocaine420-6969.

1090
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,040
You didn't mention the boothie.

1091
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,040
Oh yeah, boof, boof, boof.

1092
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:43,040
I put it on my calendar just so I can look back if I ever face a trial.

1093
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,040
I can be like, I was boofy with Olivia that day.

1094
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,040
Boofy through.

1095
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,040
Did we just make a break, Kavanaugh joke?

1096
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,040
Like, you're just boofy?

1097
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,040
No, boofy?

1098
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,040
Boofy is putting drugs up your butt.

1099
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,040
Yeah, that's from the break, Kavanaugh trial.

1100
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,040
It was a thing before then.

1101
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:07,040
People have been putting drugs up there butts a long time.

1102
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:12,040
Oh, I remember Kavanaugh did it with his buds at the front house.

1103
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,040
Anyway, Kavanaugh was decreasing so hard.

1104
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:22,040
You can find me at Shauna Trinidad on Instagram, TikTok and Threads at Shauna Trinidad,

1105
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,040
S-H-A-U-N-A-T-R-I-N-I-D-A-D.

1106
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:32,040
And you can find the pop culture junkie podcast socials on our website popculturejunkie.com.

1107
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:37,040
And that's where you can find links to our podcast on all platforms so you can subscribe as well

1108
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,040
as right in review the show.

1109
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,040
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1110
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:49,040
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1111
00:49:49,040 --> 00:50:01,040
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1112
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:11,040
(I need it bad, I need it bad).