1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 It's not for me. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Alternate history, not for me. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,000 You're more of a real history person. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,000 You're like your... 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000 No, no. 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,000 No. 7 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,000 I recently read a book about the Lindbergh baby. 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 We, that part was real. 9 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 He tarnished the burden, and I would like to speak on it. 10 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 All right, where's the craziest place everyone's peed? 11 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,000 But who is America if not our nation's children? 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Yeah, country's kind of going hell in it. 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 [Music] 14 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Mean Book Club. 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:42,000 This week we read The Plot Against America by Philip Roth. 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Ooh, scary plot. 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Not seen. 18 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Danger. 19 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Fashes um, little boys. 20 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Stamps. 21 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Stamps are a big part. 22 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Um, as always, we are Mean Book Club. 23 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,000 We read New York Times bestsellers that you make us essentially, 24 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,000 because you're like, I don't know, wasn't that good? 25 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Please, because you're our boss. 26 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Yeah. 27 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,000 We work for you. 28 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Pretty much. 29 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,000 If you join our Patreon and become a patron, we do work for you. 30 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Wow, an early plug. 31 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,000 We never do it so early. 32 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,000 I'm sure some of you cut out before the end, and you didn't even know we had a Patreon. 33 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000 But we have a Patreon, you can become a patron. 34 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,000 And you can, there's also a tier where we will read a book you suggest. 35 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,000 So, um, enjoy. 36 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,000 But, um, here we are. 37 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,000 And here we are. 38 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,000 As always, I am one of your hosts, Sarah Burton. 39 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 I am one of your hosts, Donna Scrabis. 40 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:40,000 I'm sorry, was waiting for Clara. 41 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,000 She's gone here. 42 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,000 So sad. 43 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,000 I'm, I'm another one of your hosts, Sabrina Bee. 44 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Jordan. 45 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Wow, the drama. 46 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Um, yeah, Clarina's lost her mojo. 47 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Yeah, she has perhaps, she'll get it back. 48 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,000 There's still time for her to turn it around. 49 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,000 It's early in the episode. 50 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Clara will be joining us at some point. 51 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Um, we can only hope, uh, and pray. 52 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Pray for her. 53 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Pray for her. 54 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Um, but we'll keep going, uh, with the plot against America. 55 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,000 We can give you some background, et cetera. 56 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,000 So, uh, Donna. 57 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Why are we, why are we reading this book? 58 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Well, I'd love to answer that question. 59 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Um, Miles May, who we have done another book by, um, I'm certain of it. 60 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Can't book for mortals. 61 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Yes. 62 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Oh, there we go. 63 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Miles May recommended handbook for mortals. 64 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Um, came in with another hot, hot book. 65 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Here's what Miles has to say. 66 00:02:46,000 --> 00:03:00,000 I just figured I'd let you know that I bought another request because recently I found out a book in the somewhat niche genre of alternate history made its way onto the best seller list in 2004. 67 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:09,000 The plot against America tells the tale of a Jewish family that may or may not be based on the author's own family as they share the same last name. 68 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Living in New Jersey after Charles Lindbergh defeated FDR in 1940. 69 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Right off the bat, I will say that this book is a lot more competently written than the last thing I requested you look at. 70 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:31,000 But I think it would be interesting to discuss if only because I feel like you'd be able to see parallels between the fictional Lindbergh administration and the current administration. 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Okay. 72 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Yes. 73 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:38,000 I mean, I don't love, I don't personally love that ask, but they did, um, join the tier. 74 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Requires us to do it. 75 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 So, so do it. 76 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,000 I think we should do it. 77 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,000 We should. 78 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Well, I like it. 79 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:53,000 And I, I, I said that when we picked this one and the reason is because it's, you know, all we want to pick are thrillers. 80 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,000 You know this. 81 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,000 All we want to pick are gone girl at the window woman. 82 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Because they're the real. 83 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 A gone girl at the window woman. 84 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Yeah. 85 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Okay. 86 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:08,000 So is it important that Miles pushes us to have a diverse season? 87 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Yeah. Okay. Fine. This is it. This is this, this does diversify our portfolio. 88 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,000 We need to do this. 89 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Otherwise, what are we doing? 90 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,000 Just reading books. 91 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,000 We kind of want to read. 92 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,000 No, we, we do this to punish ourselves. 93 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,000 We do this to punish ourselves. 94 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Well, this one is punishment. 95 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Yes. 96 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,000 It was. 97 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,000 All right. 98 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Well, I might have felt a little differently, but how did you guys read it? 99 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 How'd you consume it? 100 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,000 Oh. 101 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Oh, boy. 102 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Actually. 103 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,000 I know. 104 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Oh, I, I got it at the library. 105 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,000 I always feel like it's so interesting. 106 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,000 I got it at the library. 107 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,000 I never. 108 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,000 I know. 109 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,000 I missed it. 110 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:54,000 So I didn't have to use any of my credits, which is nice. 111 00:04:54,000 --> 00:05:02,000 And then I listened to it on as fast as I could, except the guy narrating it, his voice, like, 112 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:08,000 I know that you all think this always at three times speed, but his voice was not understandable 113 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,000 at three times speed. 114 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Yeah, he is. 115 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,000 He had a very thick accent. 116 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 And he was like, and see that. 117 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:19,520 It like, there was like a popping to his voice that like, became very irritating at three 118 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,520 times speed. 119 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,000 So I had to listen it to point six five. 120 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Oh, okay. 121 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Big difference. 122 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Big difference. 123 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Really slowed you down there. 124 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 Um, John, I had a jury to it. 125 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:37,500 Well, I bought it on Audible because, you know, as we have explained, Sarah got us all Audible 126 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:39,300 subscriptions for the season. 127 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:45,000 And the problem is I'm sort of like a wild animal that you all have started feeding. 128 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,800 Like now that I have this, this bowl of kibble in front of me, I haven't been able to go 129 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,500 on my own books at all. 130 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:53,500 I've lost. 131 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:54,500 Wow. 132 00:05:54,500 --> 00:05:55,500 Wow. 133 00:05:55,500 --> 00:06:05,500 I'm not a library. 134 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:08,700 I don't even try to look anywhere else. 135 00:06:08,700 --> 00:06:09,700 I don't do anything. 136 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:11,000 I just go to Audible. 137 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,000 I click. 138 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,500 I would like to use a credit. 139 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:15,220 And then it appears seconds later. 140 00:06:15,220 --> 00:06:16,220 It's so easy. 141 00:06:16,220 --> 00:06:19,220 And I'm becoming a fat cat. 142 00:06:19,220 --> 00:06:20,220 Oh, yeah. 143 00:06:20,220 --> 00:06:21,220 All right, fat cat. 144 00:06:21,220 --> 00:06:22,220 I, I also, I still try. 145 00:06:22,220 --> 00:06:27,720 I've been trying to do the library, but it's, you know, too backed up. 146 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:35,280 So I actually used audiobooks.com for this one because I had, you know, been paying for 147 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:36,760 it for a while and forgot. 148 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,720 So I have some, you know, that's my bad. 149 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,960 Um, but I will also say I did also read this before in college. 150 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:52,160 Um, it was a part of like the, like, oh, you can read this book list before. 151 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:57,980 For your freshman year and then we're going to all meet to get together and, um, talk about 152 00:06:57,980 --> 00:07:01,300 this book and this, for the otters college. 153 00:07:01,300 --> 00:07:02,300 And I was like, yeah. 154 00:07:02,300 --> 00:07:05,540 And so I read the plot against America and the life of pie. 155 00:07:05,540 --> 00:07:07,340 There are a few other ones because we did life of pie. 156 00:07:07,340 --> 00:07:08,740 That was also one of them on the list. 157 00:07:08,740 --> 00:07:10,940 And I was so excited. 158 00:07:10,940 --> 00:07:13,540 And then I got in in my roommate. 159 00:07:13,540 --> 00:07:19,020 I said, oh, you're going to go and she was like, no. 160 00:07:19,020 --> 00:07:20,940 And, um, then I never went. 161 00:07:20,940 --> 00:07:22,940 I never went to those. 162 00:07:22,940 --> 00:07:23,940 Oh my god. 163 00:07:23,940 --> 00:07:25,700 Cause I didn't want to be on cool. 164 00:07:25,700 --> 00:07:28,180 I didn't want her to think I was in cool. 165 00:07:28,180 --> 00:07:33,420 Wait, it's crazy that you like read the book kind of to be cool and make friends. 166 00:07:33,420 --> 00:07:34,420 Yeah. 167 00:07:34,420 --> 00:07:38,620 And then the minute the first person said that that was not the way to be cool. 168 00:07:38,620 --> 00:07:39,620 Yeah. 169 00:07:39,620 --> 00:07:41,420 You abandoned it instantly immediately. 170 00:07:41,420 --> 00:07:42,420 Yeah. 171 00:07:42,420 --> 00:07:43,420 Yeah. 172 00:07:43,420 --> 00:07:46,340 I needed to her name, Michelle, Tania said, I don't know if she's listening, but I needed 173 00:07:46,340 --> 00:07:47,860 to impress her badly. 174 00:07:47,860 --> 00:07:51,860 And, um, yeah, she was, she just was like really chill laid back. 175 00:07:51,860 --> 00:07:58,420 And I, I, I had to, I tried to make myself into her as much as possible. 176 00:07:58,420 --> 00:08:01,340 But anyway, that's not the first time I read this book. 177 00:08:01,340 --> 00:08:05,540 And also I'll say, I do like alternate history. 178 00:08:05,540 --> 00:08:08,340 Like it is a genre that I typically enjoy. 179 00:08:08,340 --> 00:08:09,340 Yeah. 180 00:08:09,340 --> 00:08:10,780 I'm not that I don't have plenty to say about this one. 181 00:08:10,780 --> 00:08:16,780 But I, I also, this was also at HBO series, I think in like 2022 or something. 182 00:08:16,780 --> 00:08:17,780 Oh, was it? 183 00:08:17,780 --> 00:08:24,940 I was saying that I thought it might be more interesting as a series that had like hour 184 00:08:24,940 --> 00:08:26,300 long episodes. 185 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:27,300 Yeah. 186 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:28,300 Yeah. 187 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:29,860 In a little drama. 188 00:08:29,860 --> 00:08:32,260 Um, but we actually went to that. 189 00:08:32,260 --> 00:08:33,260 Come out. 190 00:08:33,260 --> 00:08:34,260 Yeah. 191 00:08:34,260 --> 00:08:36,460 It came out kind of like kind of recently. 192 00:08:36,460 --> 00:08:39,820 It was in 20, oh, 2020 Jesus Christ. 193 00:08:39,820 --> 00:08:40,820 Wow. 194 00:08:40,820 --> 00:08:42,580 That was the beginning of the pandemic. 195 00:08:42,580 --> 00:08:43,580 That's so wild. 196 00:08:43,580 --> 00:08:45,340 Never came across my desk. 197 00:08:45,340 --> 00:08:53,180 Mother thinks or I know maybe bad timing, um, maybe bad timing, but when owner writer, Morgan 198 00:08:53,180 --> 00:08:57,300 John Turtaro had big, oh my God. 199 00:08:57,300 --> 00:08:58,540 He goes to all the Liberty games. 200 00:08:58,540 --> 00:09:02,020 So I'm a fan of him, a friend of yours really. 201 00:09:02,020 --> 00:09:03,020 Yeah. 202 00:09:03,020 --> 00:09:06,540 But pretty much he sits a few rows in front of me. 203 00:09:06,540 --> 00:09:08,020 He seems cool. 204 00:09:08,020 --> 00:09:10,260 But yeah, yeah, but read this book. 205 00:09:10,260 --> 00:09:13,020 We'll go to the book because we're talking about the book. 206 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:15,260 So we, well, I don't know. 207 00:09:15,260 --> 00:09:16,860 I want to talk about John Turtaro. 208 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:18,180 I kind of do too. 209 00:09:18,180 --> 00:09:19,180 Yeah. 210 00:09:19,180 --> 00:09:20,580 No, I mean, I love him. 211 00:09:20,580 --> 00:09:22,180 Zach Cherry goes to sometimes. 212 00:09:22,180 --> 00:09:25,140 No, I don't think he has season tickets, but I feel like I see him. 213 00:09:25,140 --> 00:09:26,140 Good for him. 214 00:09:26,140 --> 00:09:34,300 Yes, I actually weirdly saw like a Zach Cherry court side at the Lady Liberty game nets. 215 00:09:34,300 --> 00:09:36,500 The where did you see that? 216 00:09:36,500 --> 00:09:37,700 Where did you see that? 217 00:09:37,700 --> 00:09:39,860 It was like in the paper or something. 218 00:09:39,860 --> 00:09:41,540 It was like a paper. 219 00:09:41,540 --> 00:09:42,540 The paper. 220 00:09:42,540 --> 00:09:45,540 New York Times. 221 00:09:45,540 --> 00:09:47,660 Zach Cherry, that. 222 00:09:47,660 --> 00:09:48,900 I say, I say. 223 00:09:48,900 --> 00:09:49,900 All right. 224 00:09:49,900 --> 00:09:51,260 This is Clara class it up. 225 00:09:51,260 --> 00:09:55,980 So really, really excited to shoot for another shorty from Clara. 226 00:09:55,980 --> 00:09:58,260 This time she gave us parts, though. 227 00:09:58,260 --> 00:09:59,260 All right. 228 00:09:59,260 --> 00:10:00,780 He wants to be Philip. 229 00:10:00,780 --> 00:10:03,940 Sarah, I mean, I think you make it an excellent. 230 00:10:03,940 --> 00:10:04,940 Oh, no. 231 00:10:04,940 --> 00:10:06,980 This is asking for me to do an accent. 232 00:10:06,980 --> 00:10:07,980 I will not. 233 00:10:07,980 --> 00:10:08,980 I cannot do. 234 00:10:08,980 --> 00:10:09,980 I'll try. 235 00:10:09,980 --> 00:10:10,980 But I don't know if I can try. 236 00:10:10,980 --> 00:10:12,460 No, I don't know if I can do it. 237 00:10:12,460 --> 00:10:14,140 I think I could do a New York accent. 238 00:10:14,140 --> 00:10:14,980 OK, OK. 239 00:10:14,980 --> 00:10:17,140 Then you do a Philip. 240 00:10:17,140 --> 00:10:19,380 Sabrina, do you want to be Alvin? 241 00:10:19,380 --> 00:10:20,580 I can. 242 00:10:20,580 --> 00:10:21,580 All right. 243 00:10:21,580 --> 00:10:22,740 Sabrina was maybe gone in for Philip. 244 00:10:22,740 --> 00:10:23,340 I'm sorry. 245 00:10:23,340 --> 00:10:24,340 Sabrina, you want to-- 246 00:10:24,340 --> 00:10:25,340 I was. 247 00:10:25,340 --> 00:10:25,940 I wasn't. 248 00:10:25,940 --> 00:10:26,580 I wasn't. 249 00:10:26,580 --> 00:10:29,220 I didn't even speak up. 250 00:10:29,220 --> 00:10:30,660 Well, we looked in your eyes. 251 00:10:30,660 --> 00:10:36,580 I got to try to get in the headspace of my coworker, Jessica. 252 00:10:36,580 --> 00:10:38,700 How does she talk? 253 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:40,340 Hey, Jessica, what's up today? 254 00:10:40,340 --> 00:10:42,340 How are you doing? 255 00:10:42,340 --> 00:10:43,980 Fuck off. 256 00:10:43,980 --> 00:10:44,780 OK, perfect. 257 00:10:44,780 --> 00:10:45,260 You got it. 258 00:10:45,260 --> 00:10:46,460 You found it. 259 00:10:46,460 --> 00:10:47,860 All right, let's go. 260 00:10:47,860 --> 00:10:50,540 All right, here's the summary for the plot against America 261 00:10:50,540 --> 00:10:52,940 by Clara Morris. 262 00:10:52,940 --> 00:10:56,700 I'm just the Jewish kid in Newark narrating my life 263 00:10:56,700 --> 00:10:58,740 and also a history textbook. 264 00:10:58,740 --> 00:11:01,860 I go back and forth, see if you can pay attention. 265 00:11:01,860 --> 00:11:04,580 Oh, I should mention that this is an alternate history 266 00:11:04,580 --> 00:11:06,460 in which I have to watch my father, 267 00:11:06,460 --> 00:11:09,260 the most electrifyingly dedicated and staunchly 268 00:11:09,260 --> 00:11:12,900 hardworking man there ever was, Indora Nazi 269 00:11:12,900 --> 00:11:16,620 and Nazi sympathizing president during World War II. 270 00:11:16,620 --> 00:11:19,700 And also, my mother, the most to nature, 271 00:11:19,700 --> 00:11:21,700 he arcled smooth, aproned woman, 272 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:24,620 to ever have to create a household of peace 273 00:11:24,620 --> 00:11:27,100 and harmony among political persecution 274 00:11:27,100 --> 00:11:31,940 and people unknown to me, a little boy who likes baseball 275 00:11:31,940 --> 00:11:33,620 is the most-- 276 00:11:33,620 --> 00:11:37,900 in the most precient time of life. 277 00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:42,020 Philip, can you change the bandages on my stump? 278 00:11:42,020 --> 00:11:43,860 I have to go. 279 00:11:43,860 --> 00:11:50,540 But let me just say, I got my neighbor's mom killed violently. 280 00:11:50,540 --> 00:11:52,780 There are scabs, Philip. 281 00:11:52,780 --> 00:11:56,100 Finn, that's an end. 282 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:57,940 All right, very good. 283 00:11:57,940 --> 00:12:00,060 John, amazing accent. 284 00:12:00,060 --> 00:12:01,140 I'm very impressed. 285 00:12:01,140 --> 00:12:02,220 A real-- 286 00:12:02,220 --> 00:12:03,540 For real. 287 00:12:03,540 --> 00:12:07,860 I only work with people from Staten Island and Long Island. 288 00:12:07,860 --> 00:12:10,020 I'm full stop. 289 00:12:10,020 --> 00:12:11,180 You fully leaned in. 290 00:12:11,180 --> 00:12:13,100 I loved it. 291 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:16,140 And OK, so yeah, I guess that is what it's about. 292 00:12:16,140 --> 00:12:17,940 There's a lot of information not in there, 293 00:12:17,940 --> 00:12:19,380 but I'm sure we'll talk about it. 294 00:12:19,380 --> 00:12:21,140 And work not mentioned seems like a-- 295 00:12:21,140 --> 00:12:23,300 A Lindbergh not a hot end. 296 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:25,900 This is the alternate history has him as the president. 297 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:29,500 But, you know, sure, sure. 298 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:30,380 We'll get back to it. 299 00:12:30,380 --> 00:12:32,820 But yeah, that's the gist. 300 00:12:32,820 --> 00:12:37,540 It's a coming of age story for a little-- 301 00:12:37,540 --> 00:12:39,900 it's basically a little boy's coming of age story, 302 00:12:39,900 --> 00:12:42,580 but unfortunately, it's also-- 303 00:12:42,580 --> 00:12:47,020 it's at a time when a fascist is the president. 304 00:12:47,020 --> 00:12:48,900 Uh-oh. 305 00:12:48,900 --> 00:12:49,900 That's-- 306 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:52,340 Yeah, more what it is. 307 00:12:52,340 --> 00:12:55,860 But, John, do we have any jugs? 308 00:12:55,860 --> 00:12:56,780 Do you have a carry? 309 00:12:56,780 --> 00:12:57,980 Drink pairing for us. 310 00:12:57,980 --> 00:12:59,020 Got a jug. 311 00:12:59,020 --> 00:13:02,980 I think that this book would be a tremendous opportunity 312 00:13:02,980 --> 00:13:06,820 for everyone to try Manashavit's wine, if you've never 313 00:13:06,820 --> 00:13:07,820 tried it. 314 00:13:07,820 --> 00:13:08,820 I knew. 315 00:13:08,820 --> 00:13:09,820 You knew? 316 00:13:09,820 --> 00:13:10,820 I knew. 317 00:13:10,820 --> 00:13:11,820 OK. 318 00:13:11,820 --> 00:13:17,620 Well, I myself, prior to this book, have never tried it, 319 00:13:17,620 --> 00:13:20,900 because I've never been invited to a Passover, which 320 00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:24,100 makes me sad and consider this and open invite to invite to. 321 00:13:24,100 --> 00:13:24,860 Wow. 322 00:13:24,860 --> 00:13:25,860 That actually came out. 323 00:13:25,860 --> 00:13:27,500 It's actually shocking. 324 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:30,300 Sad to say. 325 00:13:30,300 --> 00:13:36,060 And this is a Jewish wine that is traditionally 326 00:13:36,060 --> 00:13:40,580 part of a Passover gathering. 327 00:13:40,580 --> 00:13:43,940 And it's known for its distinctive grape, slightly 328 00:13:43,940 --> 00:13:44,940 syrupy flavor. 329 00:13:44,940 --> 00:13:50,100 It has been compared to a grape flavored cough syrup. 330 00:13:50,100 --> 00:13:51,380 This is as sweet as it gets full. 331 00:13:51,380 --> 00:13:52,180 That's really selling. 332 00:13:52,180 --> 00:13:53,220 Not really selling. 333 00:13:53,220 --> 00:13:57,260 You know what's funny is, so I don't like sweet wines. 334 00:13:57,260 --> 00:14:03,060 But I feel that the Manashavits is so sweet that it transcends 335 00:14:03,060 --> 00:14:11,100 into a different tier of almost actual grape juice. 336 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:14,140 And that you get a little buzz from? 337 00:14:14,140 --> 00:14:15,140 Yeah. 338 00:14:15,140 --> 00:14:16,740 Buzzy grape juice. 339 00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:17,740 Yeah. 340 00:14:17,740 --> 00:14:18,240 OK. 341 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,900 That's fun. 342 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:24,060 And it truly is the perfect pairing for this book, 343 00:14:24,060 --> 00:14:26,180 because-- 344 00:14:26,180 --> 00:14:27,340 Well, I guess-- 345 00:14:27,340 --> 00:14:28,140 Listen on. 346 00:14:28,140 --> 00:14:30,660 --to get some fun out more. 347 00:14:30,660 --> 00:14:31,500 I feel like they get it. 348 00:14:31,500 --> 00:14:32,500 Little I think they get it. 349 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:33,980 [LAUGHTER] 350 00:14:33,980 --> 00:14:35,300 Thank you so much. 351 00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:37,140 It's really-- it's the Jewish thing. 352 00:14:37,140 --> 00:14:37,820 It's really-- 353 00:14:37,820 --> 00:14:39,620 It's probably the Jewish thing. 354 00:14:39,620 --> 00:14:40,540 Let's talk about Phil. 355 00:14:40,540 --> 00:14:41,380 I think that's about it. 356 00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:43,020 I guess. 357 00:14:43,020 --> 00:14:48,380 Phil up-- the main character is kind of like-- 358 00:14:48,380 --> 00:14:50,660 obviously, this isn't a real history, 359 00:14:50,660 --> 00:14:52,340 but it's based on him. 360 00:14:52,340 --> 00:14:53,820 So he also grew up at Newark. 361 00:14:53,820 --> 00:14:57,180 His dad was an insurance broker. 362 00:14:57,180 --> 00:14:59,820 In high school, he was considered funny. 363 00:14:59,820 --> 00:15:02,500 He started at Rutgers, transferred to Bucknell. 364 00:15:02,500 --> 00:15:06,460 He got his MA from Chicago University. 365 00:15:06,460 --> 00:15:08,860 And in 1955, assuming he'd be drafted, 366 00:15:08,860 --> 00:15:12,260 he joined the Army, but got hurt and basic training. 367 00:15:12,260 --> 00:15:13,260 Oh, maybe luckier. 368 00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:14,580 I don't know how he got hurt, but-- 369 00:15:14,580 --> 00:15:15,980 Good deal. 370 00:15:15,980 --> 00:15:20,140 His fourth book in 1969 called Port Noise Complaint 371 00:15:20,140 --> 00:15:22,340 is what made him famous. 372 00:15:22,340 --> 00:15:27,220 And he died in 2018, so Clara says, play it cool. 373 00:15:27,220 --> 00:15:28,220 OK. 374 00:15:28,220 --> 00:15:29,100 It makes sense. 375 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:31,500 I feel like actually I listened to an interview with him 376 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:37,300 in 2018, some extent, so I couldn't find something more recent. 377 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:44,420 But yeah, I think he's pretty well decorated as a writer, 378 00:15:44,420 --> 00:15:45,620 kind of a-- 379 00:15:45,620 --> 00:15:49,180 probably not so much in the Army since just 380 00:15:49,180 --> 00:15:51,780 had that little basic training, Snathil. 381 00:15:51,780 --> 00:15:53,140 Yeah, I know he wrote his written. 382 00:15:53,140 --> 00:15:56,100 He's written a lot about Jewish-American identity. 383 00:15:56,900 --> 00:16:01,700 Um, he's one of the most honored Jewish-American writers 384 00:16:01,700 --> 00:16:02,460 of his generation. 385 00:16:02,460 --> 00:16:05,460 He's received the National Books Criticist Circle Award. 386 00:16:05,460 --> 00:16:06,460 OK, so play cool. 387 00:16:06,460 --> 00:16:09,100 And the Ken Falkner Award, National Book Award, 388 00:16:09,100 --> 00:16:13,340 Pulitzer Prize for American Pastoral, which is another-- 389 00:16:13,340 --> 00:16:20,380 he got the France Kafka Prize, the inaugural one in 2001. 390 00:16:20,380 --> 00:16:22,780 The Library of America began publishing his complete works 391 00:16:22,780 --> 00:16:23,860 in 2005. 392 00:16:23,860 --> 00:16:28,700 He's very much so like a quintessential American-- 393 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:30,700 Oh, good writer. 394 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:31,700 Yeah, yeah. 395 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:32,700 He's really good. 396 00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:33,500 He's really good. 397 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:36,260 Nautoriously well-known. 398 00:16:36,260 --> 00:16:37,260 Good. 399 00:16:37,260 --> 00:16:40,620 So I'm going to assume maybe the-- that part-- 400 00:16:40,620 --> 00:16:44,260 we're probably not going to have a lot to complain about 401 00:16:44,260 --> 00:16:46,620 in terms of-- 402 00:16:46,620 --> 00:16:48,780 I mean, I can find a thing or two. 403 00:16:48,780 --> 00:16:49,780 OK. 404 00:16:49,780 --> 00:16:51,740 All right, well, I was going to say-- 405 00:16:51,740 --> 00:16:54,700 my big complaint is that-- 406 00:16:54,700 --> 00:16:56,860 and this isn't like a-- it's not-- 407 00:16:56,860 --> 00:16:57,860 I don't know if you like-- 408 00:16:57,860 --> 00:16:58,860 OK, well, we're not there yet. 409 00:16:58,860 --> 00:16:59,860 We're not there yet. 410 00:16:59,860 --> 00:17:00,740 Oh, I'll tell you later. 411 00:17:00,740 --> 00:17:02,100 Well, are they complainers? 412 00:17:02,100 --> 00:17:03,380 Everyone can know later. 413 00:17:03,380 --> 00:17:06,860 Wow, so many teasers, the sub-aceties. 414 00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:07,620 The teas. 415 00:17:07,620 --> 00:17:13,700 Now this book, this book, The Plot Against America-- 416 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:17,180 I guess just last year in 2024, it was ranked number 65 417 00:17:17,180 --> 00:17:19,140 in the New York Times list for best 100 novels 418 00:17:19,140 --> 00:17:20,420 of the 21st century. 419 00:17:20,420 --> 00:17:21,700 OK, that is-- 420 00:17:21,700 --> 00:17:22,700 huge. 421 00:17:22,700 --> 00:17:24,580 Yeah, yeah. 422 00:17:24,580 --> 00:17:27,940 It was published in 2004, and it spent 16 weeks on the best 423 00:17:27,940 --> 00:17:29,580 cellar list in 0405. 424 00:17:29,580 --> 00:17:30,460 We talked about it. 425 00:17:30,460 --> 00:17:32,500 It's also a mini series. 426 00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:35,500 It's a heralded book, Painfully a Moving Genuinely 427 00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:38,020 American Story by The Washington Post, 428 00:17:38,020 --> 00:17:40,980 a terrific political novel as well as sinister, vivid, 429 00:17:40,980 --> 00:17:42,820 dreamlike preposterous and at the same time, 430 00:17:42,820 --> 00:17:46,820 creepily plausible, said The New York Times. 431 00:17:46,820 --> 00:17:50,380 It has long fluid sentences that carry you beyond skepticism 432 00:17:50,380 --> 00:17:51,060 the guard in. 433 00:17:51,060 --> 00:17:57,180 So yeah, a lot of people liking, although I will say, 434 00:17:57,180 --> 00:18:04,020 even though I read this in 2005 or 2006, 435 00:18:04,020 --> 00:18:08,380 I don't remember everything about what it was like, 436 00:18:08,380 --> 00:18:11,220 but I think there's a lot just because of the political climate 437 00:18:11,220 --> 00:18:13,940 and how much it's changed that it doesn't feel the same. 438 00:18:13,940 --> 00:18:17,660 It almost is stuff in the book is too subtle. 439 00:18:17,660 --> 00:18:18,780 You know what I mean? 440 00:18:18,780 --> 00:18:19,300 It's like-- 441 00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:20,420 It's crazy enough. 442 00:18:20,420 --> 00:18:23,380 This fascist president doesn't seem that bad compared 443 00:18:23,380 --> 00:18:24,460 to stuff I've seen. 444 00:18:24,460 --> 00:18:25,060 You know what I mean? 445 00:18:25,060 --> 00:18:26,060 Yeah, right. 446 00:18:26,060 --> 00:18:30,020 I think that because of that, to me, 447 00:18:30,020 --> 00:18:33,780 it feels like it lost a lot of its bite that probably-- 448 00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:35,060 Sure. 449 00:18:35,060 --> 00:18:37,260 And that's sad. 450 00:18:37,260 --> 00:18:40,420 That is sad, that is sad, but that's just how I feel. 451 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:44,060 But all right, I guess we can dive in-- 452 00:18:44,060 --> 00:18:46,020 I've noticed something that I'd like to point out 453 00:18:46,020 --> 00:18:47,700 before we dive into the book. 454 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:48,220 Go ahead. 455 00:18:48,220 --> 00:18:50,980 It's about miles. 456 00:18:50,980 --> 00:18:54,500 I am worried that miles has set us up to fail here. 457 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:58,740 Maybe miles might be an enemy of ours. 458 00:18:58,740 --> 00:19:00,340 Here's my rationale. 459 00:19:00,340 --> 00:19:00,860 OK. 460 00:19:00,860 --> 00:19:04,500 Go back to miles' recommendation. 461 00:19:04,500 --> 00:19:08,180 Nothing actually negative is said about the book. 462 00:19:08,180 --> 00:19:10,340 It's just a description of the book. 463 00:19:10,340 --> 00:19:15,340 And the line I think would be interesting to discuss. 464 00:19:15,340 --> 00:19:17,060 That's what I said I didn't like. 465 00:19:17,060 --> 00:19:17,660 I didn't like this. 466 00:19:17,660 --> 00:19:19,220 Well, then we get down here. 467 00:19:19,220 --> 00:19:21,620 And it's just like-- 468 00:19:21,620 --> 00:19:26,300 it's one of the 65 best novels of the 21st century. 469 00:19:26,300 --> 00:19:28,020 This man is a hero. 470 00:19:28,020 --> 00:19:30,020 He's won the Pulitzer Prize. 471 00:19:30,020 --> 00:19:34,740 And what I'm wondering is miles setting us up 472 00:19:34,740 --> 00:19:39,820 to pick a book like this, do it, trash it, 473 00:19:39,820 --> 00:19:42,500 and then it ruins our lives. 474 00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:44,700 The cast is over. 475 00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:45,660 People hate it. 476 00:19:45,660 --> 00:19:49,020 Is miles trying to kill the podcast? 477 00:19:49,020 --> 00:19:49,780 It's interesting. 478 00:19:49,780 --> 00:19:50,980 It's an interesting theory. 479 00:19:50,980 --> 00:19:55,580 I don't know. 480 00:19:55,580 --> 00:19:57,060 I'm just wondering. 481 00:19:57,060 --> 00:19:57,860 It's possible. 482 00:19:57,860 --> 00:19:59,500 And how do we handle it? 483 00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:01,580 Do we do miles? 484 00:20:01,580 --> 00:20:02,580 Yes. 485 00:20:02,580 --> 00:20:04,500 And why? 486 00:20:04,500 --> 00:20:06,940 I think we have to keep going. 487 00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:12,540 I think where he's got us against the handrail. 488 00:20:12,540 --> 00:20:12,900 What is it? 489 00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:13,580 The guardrails? 490 00:20:13,580 --> 00:20:15,420 He's got our back against the wall. 491 00:20:15,420 --> 00:20:16,980 We don't have anywhere to go. 492 00:20:16,980 --> 00:20:18,500 We got to do this. 493 00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:19,460 What are we going to stop for? 494 00:20:19,460 --> 00:20:21,580 We're between the bull and the guardrail. 495 00:20:21,580 --> 00:20:22,260 Yeah. 496 00:20:22,260 --> 00:20:23,260 Yeah. 497 00:20:23,260 --> 00:20:27,060 And night on then the bulls come in for that guardrail 498 00:20:27,060 --> 00:20:27,860 for some reason. 499 00:20:27,860 --> 00:20:28,580 Bulls can scream. 500 00:20:28,580 --> 00:20:29,580 This is a great make. 501 00:20:29,580 --> 00:20:31,940 It's a great make sense. 502 00:20:31,940 --> 00:20:33,780 Subrebrate. 503 00:20:33,780 --> 00:20:36,180 You had-- what was the thing-- 504 00:20:36,180 --> 00:20:38,420 what did you want to talk about, sorry? 505 00:20:38,420 --> 00:20:43,300 Oh, well, I was just going to say my major complaint 506 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:44,140 with the book. 507 00:20:44,140 --> 00:20:48,260 It is really just like, it's not for me. 508 00:20:48,260 --> 00:20:55,260 And so it being so long made it feel so long. 509 00:20:55,260 --> 00:20:56,380 I didn't-- 510 00:20:56,380 --> 00:20:58,460 I think he did a great job. 511 00:20:58,460 --> 00:21:01,140 And it appears that others agree. 512 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:03,980 [LAUGHTER] 513 00:21:03,980 --> 00:21:08,460 It's like, sure, that's how it got to be number 65 514 00:21:08,460 --> 00:21:12,500 on the top 100 books of the century or whatever it is. 515 00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:13,860 Yeah. 516 00:21:13,860 --> 00:21:18,740 But historical fiction, not for me. 517 00:21:18,740 --> 00:21:22,460 Alternate history, not for me. 518 00:21:22,460 --> 00:21:24,940 You're more of a real history person. 519 00:21:24,940 --> 00:21:25,460 You like your-- 520 00:21:25,460 --> 00:21:25,980 No. 521 00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:26,980 No. 522 00:21:26,980 --> 00:21:28,980 No. 523 00:21:28,980 --> 00:21:31,660 If the word history is in your mouth, I'm out. 524 00:21:31,660 --> 00:21:32,660 Mm-hmm. 525 00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:35,660 [MUSIC PLAYING] 526 00:21:35,660 --> 00:21:38,660 [MUSIC PLAYING] 527 00:21:38,660 --> 00:21:47,260 I guess this is more for me, because I do really love history. 528 00:21:47,260 --> 00:21:48,940 And I do find-- 529 00:21:48,940 --> 00:21:51,940 I think it's kind of fun. 530 00:21:51,940 --> 00:21:53,060 I get really into like, oh, I'm going 531 00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:55,820 to read more about Bunch about Charles Lindbergh now 532 00:21:55,820 --> 00:21:58,460 and compare things he actually said to Hat 533 00:21:58,460 --> 00:21:59,660 was in the book and stuff like that. 534 00:21:59,660 --> 00:22:02,900 Oh, I sure won't be doing that. 535 00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:04,340 Well? 536 00:22:04,340 --> 00:22:05,340 Well? 537 00:22:05,340 --> 00:22:06,340 Mm. 538 00:22:06,340 --> 00:22:07,580 Well, it's interesting. 539 00:22:07,580 --> 00:22:08,340 Well, it takes all the time. 540 00:22:08,340 --> 00:22:11,100 And then, of course, in that Lindbergh, 541 00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:15,260 he has a vice president, Burton Wheeler. 542 00:22:15,260 --> 00:22:18,540 And of course, Burton being the name. 543 00:22:18,540 --> 00:22:19,060 I didn't-- 544 00:22:19,060 --> 00:22:20,060 Oh. 545 00:22:20,060 --> 00:22:25,020 I just see that character become such the evil villain, right? 546 00:22:25,020 --> 00:22:25,540 Sure. 547 00:22:25,540 --> 00:22:28,500 Because at the end, even worse, the Lindbergh almost. 548 00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:32,660 And then I'm like, well, then I read about him in real life. 549 00:22:32,660 --> 00:22:34,460 And I was kind of like, well, Philip Roth. 550 00:22:34,460 --> 00:22:39,260 That seemed a little fucked up that you did that to this guy, 551 00:22:39,260 --> 00:22:40,460 you know? 552 00:22:40,460 --> 00:22:43,660 He actually seemed like a-- 553 00:22:43,660 --> 00:22:44,900 He tarnished a Burton. 554 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:46,900 And I would like to speak on it. 555 00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:48,740 And I'll hold it for later. 556 00:22:48,740 --> 00:22:50,300 I'll hold it for the right time. 557 00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:51,020 OK. 558 00:22:51,020 --> 00:22:56,780 But I would like to proffer a defense of the Burton. 559 00:22:56,780 --> 00:22:57,380 OK. 560 00:22:57,380 --> 00:22:58,180 OK, we can do that. 561 00:22:58,180 --> 00:22:59,100 We can get to that. 562 00:23:02,620 --> 00:23:05,260 I think my main criticism of the book 563 00:23:05,260 --> 00:23:09,940 is very similar to Sabrina's in that I'm listening 564 00:23:09,940 --> 00:23:13,540 to this long ass book. 565 00:23:13,540 --> 00:23:16,660 And it feels like I'm learning something 566 00:23:16,660 --> 00:23:17,860 because it's history. 567 00:23:17,860 --> 00:23:21,540 It's certainly boring enough to be a textbook. 568 00:23:21,540 --> 00:23:23,740 But it's not because it's all fake. 569 00:23:23,740 --> 00:23:26,460 So I'm like, I'm listening to all of this. 570 00:23:26,460 --> 00:23:30,300 And it's not even going to help me in my life. 571 00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:31,940 It's not a talking point. 572 00:23:31,940 --> 00:23:33,980 It's not like, well, you know what? 573 00:23:33,980 --> 00:23:37,980 Now I know how the I did a rod came to be at least. 574 00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:38,460 It's not. 575 00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:40,100 I don't-- that's OK. 576 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:41,500 That's another book I'm reading right now. 577 00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:44,420 I've talked about it. 578 00:23:44,420 --> 00:23:45,820 But you do learn about-- 579 00:23:45,820 --> 00:23:50,420 you do learn a little bit about maybe these characters, 580 00:23:50,420 --> 00:23:53,660 like Lynn Berg and his-- 581 00:23:53,660 --> 00:23:56,420 Learning about him is probably the one thing I was like, 582 00:23:56,420 --> 00:24:00,260 oh, I didn't realize that he was probably anti-Semitic 583 00:24:00,260 --> 00:24:01,700 and things like that. 584 00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:04,100 But also, like, Charles Lynn Berg-- 585 00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:09,300 this is really going to make me sound so incredibly stupid. 586 00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:11,860 And I recognize that. 587 00:24:11,860 --> 00:24:15,420 But if you had said the name Charles Lynn Berg to me 588 00:24:15,420 --> 00:24:18,140 before this book, I would have said, 589 00:24:18,140 --> 00:24:26,780 yes, that is a figure in history probably the 1900s. 590 00:24:26,780 --> 00:24:28,140 And then-- 591 00:24:28,140 --> 00:24:32,540 That's a brain of really-- you didn't know who that was. 592 00:24:32,540 --> 00:24:33,340 Do you know what nearly-- 593 00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:35,060 And I'm kind of artist? 594 00:24:35,060 --> 00:24:36,380 Yeah. 595 00:24:36,380 --> 00:24:39,420 OK, I just feel like they're usually 596 00:24:39,420 --> 00:24:41,620 talked about together so I'm surprised. 597 00:24:41,620 --> 00:24:42,380 Really? 598 00:24:42,380 --> 00:24:44,580 I don't think they're same tier. 599 00:24:44,580 --> 00:24:45,380 All I know-- 600 00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:45,900 Wow. 601 00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:47,340 I mean, what I know about Amelia Earhart 602 00:24:47,340 --> 00:24:49,860 is she was cool, pilot, and was going 603 00:24:49,860 --> 00:24:53,660 to go around the world, but we lost her. 604 00:24:53,660 --> 00:24:56,380 But I feel like I know that because I'm a girl. 605 00:24:56,380 --> 00:24:59,100 And that was interesting to me. 606 00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:01,940 Oh, so now you only listen to history if it's about-- 607 00:25:01,940 --> 00:25:04,580 They're like two of the two most prominent figures 608 00:25:04,580 --> 00:25:05,340 in aviation history. 609 00:25:05,340 --> 00:25:07,180 I still think it's crazy. 610 00:25:07,180 --> 00:25:09,540 See, she's the only person I know from aviation history. 611 00:25:09,540 --> 00:25:10,140 OK, here. 612 00:25:10,140 --> 00:25:13,060 OK, Charles Lynn Berg made the first-- 613 00:25:13,060 --> 00:25:13,620 The ripe not. 614 00:25:13,620 --> 00:25:14,620 The ripe not. 615 00:25:14,620 --> 00:25:15,620 I should say. 616 00:25:15,620 --> 00:25:17,060 Charles Lynn Berg made the first solo 617 00:25:17,060 --> 00:25:19,820 on Soft Translantic Flight. 618 00:25:19,820 --> 00:25:22,460 And I believe-- 619 00:25:22,460 --> 00:25:25,380 and then Amelia Earhart made the first one as a woman. 620 00:25:25,380 --> 00:25:27,500 Like, they're very much so handed handed first. 621 00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:29,060 I prefaced the promise. 622 00:25:29,060 --> 00:25:29,540 I know. 623 00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:30,260 OK, OK. 624 00:25:30,260 --> 00:25:31,700 This will make me sound down. 625 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:33,980 Fair, fair, fair, fair. 626 00:25:33,980 --> 00:25:37,900 I recently read a book about the Lynn Berg Baby. 627 00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:39,860 And I will say it was actually-- 628 00:25:39,860 --> 00:25:41,900 I guess, technically, a fictional history, 629 00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:43,220 but it was based on facts. 630 00:25:43,220 --> 00:25:45,180 I guess a historical fiction. 631 00:25:45,180 --> 00:25:47,500 That's what this would be. 632 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:48,220 This one. 633 00:25:48,220 --> 00:25:48,740 Wait, wait. 634 00:25:48,740 --> 00:25:49,580 What do you mean? 635 00:25:49,580 --> 00:25:50,340 That part was real. 636 00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:52,100 The Lynn Berg Baby? 637 00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:52,900 Yeah, he had a-- 638 00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:53,660 Yes, yes. 639 00:25:53,660 --> 00:25:54,540 --is real. 640 00:25:54,540 --> 00:25:55,380 He had-- 641 00:25:55,380 --> 00:25:56,220 That's what I'm saying. 642 00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:57,580 Every house is so. 643 00:25:57,580 --> 00:26:00,500 But there's details that they don't even include in this book. 644 00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:03,460 So Mr. Aviation Hero had a son. 645 00:26:03,460 --> 00:26:05,380 They lived in Princeton, New Jersey. 646 00:26:05,380 --> 00:26:07,860 The boy was born-- 647 00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:10,460 and people say maybe he had some sort of condition 648 00:26:10,460 --> 00:26:13,500 because his head was larger than it should have been. 649 00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:17,500 And he might have been a little weaker than other kids. 650 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:19,020 But it's not really clear if there 651 00:26:19,020 --> 00:26:20,420 was something wrong with him or not. 652 00:26:20,420 --> 00:26:25,940 But Charles Lynn Berg was dipping his toe or more 653 00:26:25,940 --> 00:26:30,020 into fascism, Nazism, and maybe even eugenics. 654 00:26:30,020 --> 00:26:35,260 And so there is a lot of weight behind the possibility 655 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:38,940 that he was responsible for his son's death 656 00:26:38,940 --> 00:26:42,020 because the kid wasn't perfect. 657 00:26:42,020 --> 00:26:47,300 But in the book that I read, based on all the facts of the case, 658 00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:49,940 what they posit is that he was this weird-- 659 00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:51,460 he was a weirdo. 660 00:26:51,460 --> 00:26:55,020 And he used to like to try to play pranks on his wife 661 00:26:55,020 --> 00:26:58,860 by stealing the baby and leaving him outside. 662 00:26:58,860 --> 00:27:02,060 And the night Baby Lynn Berg went missing-- 663 00:27:02,060 --> 00:27:03,660 I haven't heard this. 664 00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:05,620 This is a theory. 665 00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:07,780 The night Baby Lynn Berg went missing, 666 00:27:07,780 --> 00:27:10,540 there was a ladder pressed up against the baby's window. 667 00:27:10,540 --> 00:27:14,060 And around the eighth rung, the ladder broke. 668 00:27:14,060 --> 00:27:16,580 And what people think potentially happened 669 00:27:16,580 --> 00:27:19,820 is that his own dad, Kidnapped him from his window, 670 00:27:19,820 --> 00:27:22,460 was taking him down the ladder as a joke, 671 00:27:22,460 --> 00:27:26,500 fell on the ladder, dropped the baby, the baby died, 672 00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:30,420 and then he left him in the woods a couple days later. 673 00:27:30,420 --> 00:27:32,500 But they never found the baby. 674 00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:33,180 They did. 675 00:27:33,180 --> 00:27:34,500 They found him. 676 00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:36,340 And that's another weird fact of the case, 677 00:27:36,340 --> 00:27:41,340 because they find him on the grounds of the house, 678 00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:44,140 not far. 679 00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:49,780 But supposedly, there was a kidnapper and ransom note. 680 00:27:49,780 --> 00:27:53,900 It's a very mysterious, but maybe there was a kidnapper. 681 00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:58,620 And maybe I'm smearing a bad man's good name. 682 00:27:58,620 --> 00:27:59,940 But well, that's part of it. 683 00:27:59,940 --> 00:28:01,140 I'm not going to defend him. 684 00:28:01,140 --> 00:28:02,300 I'm defending Burton Wheeler. 685 00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:03,220 I'm not going to defend him. 686 00:28:03,220 --> 00:28:03,500 Sure. 687 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:04,340 No, no, no. 688 00:28:04,340 --> 00:28:07,740 But yeah, the story of the Lynn Berg Baby 689 00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:12,660 is a really crazy breed if anyone is interested. 690 00:28:12,660 --> 00:28:13,780 I'll tell you the book. 691 00:28:13,780 --> 00:28:17,220 I think the book I read was called The Lynn Berg Nanny. 692 00:28:17,220 --> 00:28:20,580 And it's from the nanny's perspective. 693 00:28:20,580 --> 00:28:24,340 And so it's fully fictionalized. 694 00:28:24,340 --> 00:28:26,860 It's your claimant. 695 00:28:26,860 --> 00:28:27,380 No, no. 696 00:28:27,380 --> 00:28:28,900 It sounds fictionalized. 697 00:28:28,900 --> 00:28:31,860 It sounds like what I-- it's just like this book 698 00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:34,580 starts from a basis effect and then extrapolates. 699 00:28:34,580 --> 00:28:37,020 It sounds like they're doing that. 700 00:28:37,020 --> 00:28:39,780 No, because this is an actual alternate history. 701 00:28:39,780 --> 00:28:42,220 There was no Lynn Berg presidency. 702 00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:45,340 Right, but there's no nanny who wrote a book. 703 00:28:45,340 --> 00:28:47,020 Well, there was a nanny. 704 00:28:47,020 --> 00:28:47,860 And the fantasy-- 705 00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:50,460 Yeah, but this is an nanny who wrote the book. 706 00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:53,020 Well, I know that you guys are in a hot dispute right now, 707 00:28:53,020 --> 00:28:55,420 but I just need to jump in to clarify something 708 00:28:55,420 --> 00:28:59,140 I said earlier, because I didn't realize how much of this 709 00:28:59,140 --> 00:29:00,100 was plucked from truth. 710 00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:03,220 And I said that Charles Lindbergh might have been anti-Semitic. 711 00:29:03,220 --> 00:29:05,260 And I wanted to clear up that based on my Google search, 712 00:29:05,260 --> 00:29:06,860 he definitely was. 713 00:29:06,860 --> 00:29:07,860 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 714 00:29:07,860 --> 00:29:11,900 And I was not in any way trying to defend him. 715 00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:13,220 OK, at all. 716 00:29:13,220 --> 00:29:13,980 OK, fair. 717 00:29:13,980 --> 00:29:15,420 That's where he's trying to catch us. 718 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:16,940 Miles is trying to get us to-- 719 00:29:16,940 --> 00:29:18,020 Yeah. 720 00:29:18,020 --> 00:29:19,620 But I'm just stupid. 721 00:29:19,620 --> 00:29:20,940 And I need to educate myself. 722 00:29:20,940 --> 00:29:21,860 And that's what I'm doing. 723 00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:22,420 Crazy. 724 00:29:22,420 --> 00:29:25,580 Can you imagine somebody who's just famous for flying 725 00:29:25,580 --> 00:29:26,940 to be an elected president? 726 00:29:26,940 --> 00:29:30,060 Well, well, well, well. 727 00:29:30,060 --> 00:29:30,380 I guess-- 728 00:29:30,380 --> 00:29:30,900 OK, wait, wait. 729 00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:33,860 I do want to weigh in on your debate, which is-- 730 00:29:33,860 --> 00:29:34,620 Thank you. 731 00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:38,220 --I think that this book is a subgenre 732 00:29:38,220 --> 00:29:42,500 of historical fiction that is alternate history. 733 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:46,020 And it sounds like John's book is just historical fiction. 734 00:29:46,020 --> 00:29:46,700 Thank you. 735 00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:48,220 But yeah. 736 00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:50,620 Wait, why is that-- why is that you saying you're right? 737 00:29:50,620 --> 00:29:53,980 You're trying to claim that yours is not fictional when 738 00:29:53,980 --> 00:29:55,780 I'm trying to say it is. 739 00:29:55,780 --> 00:30:01,140 But this book is taking much bigger swings and leaps with its-- 740 00:30:01,140 --> 00:30:02,140 I don't-- 741 00:30:02,140 --> 00:30:04,140 I disagree. 742 00:30:04,140 --> 00:30:06,780 I mean, sure, because we're talking about a world, 743 00:30:06,780 --> 00:30:09,780 as opposed to a nanny, but it's still-- 744 00:30:09,780 --> 00:30:12,700 We're talking about a world as opposed to maybe some details 745 00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:13,900 may or may not have been-- 746 00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:14,900 John, I know-- 747 00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:16,380 I'm just concerned that you're just exalt-- 748 00:30:16,380 --> 00:30:17,060 True. 749 00:30:17,060 --> 00:30:18,620 I think you're accepted all of this. 750 00:30:18,620 --> 00:30:20,860 No, a lot of the stuff is based on something. 751 00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:22,340 A lot of them are-- if you-- 752 00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:23,580 OK. 753 00:30:23,580 --> 00:30:25,700 A lot of stuff, Philip Roth literally 754 00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:29,580 took from speeches they actually set and just put them 755 00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:31,500 at a different location or different time. 756 00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:32,820 But it's like-- 757 00:30:32,820 --> 00:30:36,460 And actually, that is one of the most impressive parts 758 00:30:36,460 --> 00:30:39,700 of the book is the amount of research 759 00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:44,500 and that he did for all of the characters, 760 00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:49,380 except for again, Burton Wheeler, as I will discuss. 761 00:30:49,380 --> 00:30:53,220 But also, I found out-- 762 00:30:53,220 --> 00:30:56,780 this is a little dig at him, OK? 763 00:30:56,780 --> 00:30:58,900 Because you guys know of alternative history, 764 00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:03,220 you're familiar with the man on the high tower. 765 00:31:03,220 --> 00:31:05,100 Yeah, alternative history, like what this book is, 766 00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:06,500 is opposed to historical fiction. 767 00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:07,740 Jesus Christ. 768 00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:09,780 Jesus Christ. 769 00:31:09,780 --> 00:31:11,940 Man on the high tower. 770 00:31:11,940 --> 00:31:13,380 It was also a-- 771 00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:15,180 Man in the high castle, I'm sorry, I'm saying it wrong. 772 00:31:15,180 --> 00:31:16,180 Man in the high castle. 773 00:31:16,180 --> 00:31:17,860 It was also like an Amazon Prime series 774 00:31:17,860 --> 00:31:19,780 that was 10 years ago. 775 00:31:19,780 --> 00:31:22,300 Philip K-- yeah, Philip K. Dick's. 776 00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:24,100 I feel like some people pick this book up 777 00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:27,620 and think it's going to be that, which is a little bit more, 778 00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:28,500 I would say, nefarious. 779 00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,060 That's like-- that is set in a parallel universe 780 00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:33,940 where like Axis Patti-- Nazi Germany one. 781 00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:36,980 And now we're after, we're post-World War II. 782 00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:37,660 Where it's like-- 783 00:31:37,660 --> 00:31:39,180 It's like another Philip. 784 00:31:39,180 --> 00:31:40,700 That's true. 785 00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:44,420 But this one is a little more like leading up to it. 786 00:31:44,420 --> 00:31:46,420 And then also, he backed-- I'll talk. 787 00:31:46,420 --> 00:31:47,580 This is my big complaint. 788 00:31:47,580 --> 00:31:50,540 I feel like he does a big backtrack at the end 789 00:31:50,540 --> 00:31:51,900 to be like, up. 790 00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:57,700 And now everything's back to how it was in the real world. 791 00:31:57,700 --> 00:31:58,940 Like, do you know what I mean? 792 00:31:58,940 --> 00:32:01,460 Where he's like, now Roosevelt's president again. 793 00:32:01,460 --> 00:32:04,820 And we're fighting the Nazis by the end. 794 00:32:04,820 --> 00:32:08,580 And I was like, that seems like a little bit-- 795 00:32:08,580 --> 00:32:10,260 if I'm believing a butterfly effect, 796 00:32:10,260 --> 00:32:12,060 I'm not going to believe that that's happening. 797 00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:13,060 That it's a little bit of-- 798 00:32:13,060 --> 00:32:14,060 Yeah. 799 00:32:14,060 --> 00:32:16,420 But I guess, you know, I don't necessarily 800 00:32:16,420 --> 00:32:18,900 say and I want to read a book where he just-- 801 00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:22,820 Well, and something I also didn't like in that same vein. 802 00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:27,460 And I don't know if it was rooted in history or it wasn't. 803 00:32:27,460 --> 00:32:30,300 But at the end, they-- 804 00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:34,180 expolular alert, the president goes missing, which 805 00:32:34,180 --> 00:32:36,660 is another great mean book club book. 806 00:32:36,660 --> 00:32:38,900 It really is, wow. 807 00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:43,300 And people are theorizing what happened. 808 00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:46,060 And one of the theories thrown out 809 00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:51,380 is that the Nazis had abducted the Lindbergh baby. 810 00:32:51,380 --> 00:32:57,140 And he was doing all of this in the name of protecting 811 00:32:57,140 --> 00:32:59,260 and saving his son. 812 00:32:59,260 --> 00:33:03,140 And I want-- like, obviously, I don't think 813 00:33:03,140 --> 00:33:06,020 that there's any justification for like raining. 814 00:33:06,020 --> 00:33:07,140 I also didn't like it. 815 00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:15,540 But I didn't like the idea of introducing that there was some 816 00:33:15,540 --> 00:33:18,300 good motivating the Lindbergh character. 817 00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:18,820 Exactly. 818 00:33:18,820 --> 00:33:20,660 I was like, is he afraid the Lindbergh's 819 00:33:20,660 --> 00:33:22,300 going to sue him or something? 820 00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:24,020 I also felt like-- yeah, that was-- 821 00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:26,460 I thought that was pretty lame because-- 822 00:33:26,460 --> 00:33:27,660 And he didn't say-- 823 00:33:27,660 --> 00:33:31,100 he said it as though some people believe this. 824 00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:35,460 So it's not like he's saying this is what happened. 825 00:33:35,460 --> 00:33:38,820 So it's like-- I guess it's giving the reader an option 826 00:33:38,820 --> 00:33:40,700 to be like, if I choose to believe that, 827 00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:42,820 to make myself feel better about a Lindbergh, I can. 828 00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:45,220 But it's just seemed lame to me. 829 00:33:45,220 --> 00:33:46,940 I don't like that. 830 00:33:46,940 --> 00:33:47,940 Yeah. 831 00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:52,660 And it purifies all of his followers a little bit, too, 832 00:33:52,660 --> 00:33:55,140 where it's like, well, of course. 833 00:33:55,140 --> 00:33:56,340 I don't know. 834 00:33:56,340 --> 00:33:56,860 I agree. 835 00:33:56,860 --> 00:33:57,860 Yes. 836 00:33:57,860 --> 00:34:00,020 Yeah, to give him those mixed motives. 837 00:34:00,020 --> 00:34:00,540 Yeah. 838 00:34:00,540 --> 00:34:03,500 Again, it really felt to me like, oh, 839 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,020 he's afraid of the Lindbergh's pursuing him. 840 00:34:06,020 --> 00:34:08,980 So he has to give him some pure motive for doing this 841 00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:10,260 and blah, blah, blah. 842 00:34:10,260 --> 00:34:13,420 Which again, if so, what about Burton K. Wheeler's family? 843 00:34:13,420 --> 00:34:15,980 What about the Burton, so fast. 844 00:34:15,980 --> 00:34:17,020 OK. 845 00:34:17,020 --> 00:34:19,380 Anyway, wanted to throw out-- 846 00:34:19,380 --> 00:34:23,420 and I don't even remember one of my brief reading of this-- 847 00:34:23,420 --> 00:34:27,620 that-- oh, there was another alternate history novel called 848 00:34:27,620 --> 00:34:31,580 The Divide that came out in 1980, where 849 00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:36,460 Burton Wheeler becomes president in 1940, which I thought was-- 850 00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:37,460 Wow. 851 00:34:37,460 --> 00:34:38,460 Which I think-- 852 00:34:38,460 --> 00:34:39,500 He was a Democrat. 853 00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:42,460 Where the Democrats differ in back then. 854 00:34:42,460 --> 00:34:43,460 Yeah. 855 00:34:43,460 --> 00:34:45,380 Where they essentially were Republican. 856 00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:45,900 Not that. 857 00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:51,460 Not quite, but it was definitely maybe of the '90s. 858 00:34:51,460 --> 00:34:52,580 I don't think you can really compare it 859 00:34:52,580 --> 00:34:57,100 to our current makeup of Republican-verse Democrat, 860 00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:57,620 to be honest. 861 00:34:57,620 --> 00:35:00,620 But I feel like there was a time you could say they just reversed. 862 00:35:00,620 --> 00:35:05,620 Anyway, but he wasn't like-- 863 00:35:05,620 --> 00:35:06,700 I'll go into it. 864 00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:08,860 But I just was like, oh, is this where he got it from? 865 00:35:08,860 --> 00:35:10,660 Is this where he saw this? 866 00:35:10,660 --> 00:35:14,140 And was like, all right, I'm going to take him and make him. 867 00:35:14,140 --> 00:35:16,900 My VP-- 868 00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:17,580 maybe not. 869 00:35:17,580 --> 00:35:18,660 That's not that interesting. 870 00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:19,340 I'm so sorry. 871 00:35:19,340 --> 00:35:20,940 I said that. 872 00:35:20,940 --> 00:35:23,220 Wow, Burton Wheeler is interesting. 873 00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:24,260 I-- I-- OK. 874 00:35:24,260 --> 00:35:25,180 OK, just kidding. 875 00:35:25,180 --> 00:35:26,180 Just to share with the listeners. 876 00:35:26,180 --> 00:35:26,660 I'm just going to-- 877 00:35:26,660 --> 00:35:27,380 I'm just going to get it out. 878 00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:29,220 I'm just going to get it out of here. 879 00:35:29,220 --> 00:35:32,220 I think he-- it's true that he was picked-- 880 00:35:32,220 --> 00:35:35,540 he picked him because he was like an isolationist, right? 881 00:35:35,540 --> 00:35:36,260 Then that's why. 882 00:35:36,260 --> 00:35:37,860 But he wasn't like an American-- 883 00:35:37,860 --> 00:35:42,020 America first isolationist, which is like a more like, 884 00:35:42,020 --> 00:35:46,500 I think, insidious view part of isolationism. 885 00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:48,140 Like he's more just like anti-immolationist. 886 00:35:48,140 --> 00:35:49,140 Well, Burton-- 887 00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:51,980 Well, Burton strongly supported the America first. 888 00:35:51,980 --> 00:35:53,980 Right, but he wasn't in it. 889 00:35:53,980 --> 00:35:55,980 Yes, but he wasn't in a-- 890 00:35:55,980 --> 00:36:00,300 like it was different. 891 00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:02,900 He supported their aims of isolationism, 892 00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:07,500 but he wasn't like in it for the racism, I guess, 893 00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:08,900 if that makes sense. 894 00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:09,900 It feels like-- 895 00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:12,740 Kind of like he probably did it to get elected. 896 00:36:12,740 --> 00:36:14,740 Sure, but like, OK, he was also-- 897 00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:16,500 I don't think that helped him elect him. 898 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:18,740 He was like a very-- 899 00:36:18,740 --> 00:36:21,940 He was like, oh goodness, there's a famous book that-- 900 00:36:21,940 --> 00:36:23,740 Oh, Mr. Smith goes to Washington. 901 00:36:23,740 --> 00:36:24,980 You guys know that, right? 902 00:36:24,980 --> 00:36:25,480 What is it? 903 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,620 OK, well, it's kind of like-- 904 00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:32,340 it's loosely based on him and his experience 905 00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:34,380 investigating the heartied administration. 906 00:36:34,380 --> 00:36:37,380 He was somebody he found bad people. 907 00:36:37,380 --> 00:36:40,540 And he was also like a big union supporter. 908 00:36:40,540 --> 00:36:43,700 And he was on like a ticket with like a black guy 909 00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:47,420 and like a multi-racial ticket before like anybody else. 910 00:36:47,420 --> 00:36:47,940 I don't know. 911 00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:49,460 It was just like a lot of interesting things 912 00:36:49,460 --> 00:36:53,500 that he was like, oh, I feel like from this book, 913 00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:56,100 I just thought, oh, this guy must be pretty evil. 914 00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:59,660 And then I was like, this seems like a little unfair to him. 915 00:36:59,660 --> 00:37:04,540 He seemed like maybe very liberal and like forward thinking 916 00:37:04,540 --> 00:37:05,420 for his time. 917 00:37:05,420 --> 00:37:07,660 And like everyone else, once Pearl Harbor happened, 918 00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:09,300 he was like, OK, never mind. 919 00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:09,980 Let's kill him. 920 00:37:09,980 --> 00:37:10,660 Let's get him. 921 00:37:10,660 --> 00:37:11,740 You know what I mean? 922 00:37:11,740 --> 00:37:14,340 That's the trouble with an alternate tree. 923 00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:16,180 Well, and here's a thing. 924 00:37:16,180 --> 00:37:20,220 I'm hesitant to agree or disagree with anything 925 00:37:20,220 --> 00:37:25,980 you say because I truly know so little that you could be like saying 926 00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:27,140 something. 927 00:37:27,140 --> 00:37:28,740 He could have done something real bad that we just 928 00:37:28,740 --> 00:37:30,380 haven't uncovered yet. 929 00:37:30,380 --> 00:37:34,140 And I don't want to be on any side. 930 00:37:34,140 --> 00:37:37,300 You think historically we may still uncover. 931 00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:38,180 No, no, no, no. 932 00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:42,180 I mean that we, we three kings have not-- 933 00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:43,180 I see. 934 00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:43,700 All right. 935 00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:44,380 All right. 936 00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:45,500 OK. 937 00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:46,260 OK. 938 00:37:46,260 --> 00:37:47,300 Well, anyway. 939 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:50,700 OK. 940 00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:51,500 OK. 941 00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:52,500 OK. 942 00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:52,980 Sorry. 943 00:37:52,980 --> 00:37:55,740 This is also just this is just this very side thing, 944 00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:56,580 re-Burt and Wheeler. 945 00:37:56,580 --> 00:38:00,060 But in 1946, he was defeated in the Democratic primary 946 00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:02,100 by Leif Ericsson. 947 00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:02,340 OK. 948 00:38:02,340 --> 00:38:04,220 Just throwing out that name. 949 00:38:04,220 --> 00:38:06,380 And then Ericsson in turn was defeated 950 00:38:06,380 --> 00:38:10,540 by the Republican State Representative, Zales Ecton. 951 00:38:10,540 --> 00:38:11,940 I'm just talking. 952 00:38:11,940 --> 00:38:13,100 We got Burton. 953 00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:15,420 We got Leif and we got Zales. 954 00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:18,060 They were having fun with names back then at the beginning 955 00:38:18,060 --> 00:38:19,140 of the century. 956 00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:21,060 Males have-- I don't know. 957 00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:24,340 I was just-- what are fun names? 958 00:38:24,340 --> 00:38:25,540 What happened? 959 00:38:25,540 --> 00:38:26,580 Those are good. 960 00:38:26,580 --> 00:38:28,260 You know, you just don't-- 961 00:38:28,260 --> 00:38:30,660 they're not as so many Leif's, not so many Zales. 962 00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:33,580 It's like in the Salem Witch Trials, 963 00:38:33,580 --> 00:38:34,500 there's a bunch of good names. 964 00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:35,940 And then there's Dorcas. 965 00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:36,940 I think we've talked about that. 966 00:38:36,940 --> 00:38:38,100 Yeah, Dorcas, Dorcas. 967 00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:39,540 It's tough one. 968 00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:40,500 And we know Dorcas. 969 00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:42,900 So Sabrina? 970 00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:44,540 No. 971 00:38:44,540 --> 00:38:45,460 Lilith? 972 00:38:45,460 --> 00:38:45,980 Yeah. 973 00:38:45,980 --> 00:38:47,420 Oh, a Dorcas. 974 00:38:47,420 --> 00:38:48,100 Yeah, OK. 975 00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:49,340 It's a last name. 976 00:38:49,340 --> 00:38:50,300 But a first name. 977 00:38:50,300 --> 00:38:51,460 Come on. 978 00:38:51,460 --> 00:38:52,460 Yeah. 979 00:38:52,460 --> 00:38:53,860 Also sorry for the strabullet, Sabrina. 980 00:38:53,860 --> 00:38:56,620 [LAUGHTER] 981 00:38:56,620 --> 00:38:59,700 You're like, I must be mocking Sabrina. 982 00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:00,380 All right. 983 00:39:00,380 --> 00:39:02,980 I mean, I took it as you thought I have magical powers. 984 00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:03,740 Oh, yeah. 985 00:39:03,740 --> 00:39:04,780 I'm out of your wish. 986 00:39:04,780 --> 00:39:05,620 That's what I meant. 987 00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:06,620 You're what you need. 988 00:39:06,620 --> 00:39:08,020 But yeah, this book-- 989 00:39:08,020 --> 00:39:10,500 I do think the one-- 990 00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:12,980 when you're like the plot against America, 991 00:39:12,980 --> 00:39:16,220 and it's like, oh, alternative history and fascist 992 00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:16,780 taking over. 993 00:39:16,780 --> 00:39:18,660 And then it's like, you're spending all your time 994 00:39:18,660 --> 00:39:21,940 with a 10-year-old little Jewish boy. 995 00:39:21,940 --> 00:39:23,180 Is it very funny to me? 996 00:39:23,180 --> 00:39:25,940 Like, because it was a trick. 997 00:39:25,940 --> 00:39:30,020 And I did feel like it was tricking us all. 998 00:39:30,020 --> 00:39:33,420 Because he did his things he cared about, like the stamp 999 00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:34,460 collection. 1000 00:39:34,460 --> 00:39:37,740 And I mean, it was very believable and true to character 1001 00:39:37,740 --> 00:39:39,060 and all that kind of stuff. 1002 00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:43,900 But I did end up really liking his character by the end. 1003 00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:47,020 He was very funny to me. 1004 00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:50,260 Even though it was not funny, as Claire pointed out 1005 00:39:50,260 --> 00:39:54,300 that he had his friend's mother murdered around a pelway. 1006 00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:54,780 Sorry. 1007 00:39:54,780 --> 00:39:55,580 Yeah. 1008 00:39:55,580 --> 00:39:56,700 Just to explain-- 1009 00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:58,020 You're laughing pretty hard. 1010 00:39:58,020 --> 00:39:59,140 I was laughing pretty hard. 1011 00:39:59,140 --> 00:39:59,980 It was. 1012 00:39:59,980 --> 00:40:00,940 Because it's funny. 1013 00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:04,580 But it's one of the saddest. 1014 00:40:04,580 --> 00:40:06,340 There's not really anything bad. 1015 00:40:06,340 --> 00:40:09,860 OK, other than the fascist taking over and non-seasam, 1016 00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:13,900 in our little town, and the plot is a lot less insidious. 1017 00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:14,900 It's a lot more subtle. 1018 00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:17,860 Like, you know, the dad getting letting 1019 00:40:17,860 --> 00:40:21,380 go from his job because he won't move to Kentucky 1020 00:40:21,380 --> 00:40:23,500 where they're trying to get all the Jews. 1021 00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:24,300 Well, they're trying to get all the Jews abducted. 1022 00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:28,220 His brother to send him to another family 1023 00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:29,980 to make him assimilate better. 1024 00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:30,860 But he chose it. 1025 00:40:30,860 --> 00:40:31,860 He chose it. 1026 00:40:31,860 --> 00:40:32,420 It's not-- 1027 00:40:32,420 --> 00:40:34,060 You know, I don't want to say that. 1028 00:40:34,060 --> 00:40:35,820 Well, he dumped it. 1029 00:40:35,820 --> 00:40:37,820 I would, I would, I would-- 1030 00:40:37,820 --> 00:40:38,860 But it was abducted. 1031 00:40:38,860 --> 00:40:40,540 Well, we should have gone through that. 1032 00:40:40,540 --> 00:40:45,660 The Lindbergh administration proposes a program 1033 00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:49,060 where Jewish people-- 1034 00:40:49,060 --> 00:40:51,620 basically, Jewish kids get separated from their parents. 1035 00:40:51,620 --> 00:40:53,860 And just folks-- 1036 00:40:53,860 --> 00:40:55,380 that's what they call it. 1037 00:40:55,380 --> 00:40:55,900 Yes. 1038 00:40:55,900 --> 00:41:02,820 And the family-- the main family in the book, 1039 00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:07,300 Sandy's family, their dad recognizes it for what it is, 1040 00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:10,700 which is a separating of parents from kids 1041 00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:12,220 a weakening of the Jewish family. 1042 00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:14,060 Yeah, attempting to an Americanism. 1043 00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:16,700 I mean, and that kind of stuff does have historical basis. 1044 00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:21,820 It's like stuff that was actually done with, you know, 1045 00:41:21,820 --> 00:41:23,460 American Indians and stuff like that. 1046 00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:25,500 So-- 1047 00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:27,740 And so then the consequences are exactly, 1048 00:41:27,740 --> 00:41:30,300 like, basically what the dad predicted would happen. 1049 00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:32,580 And so part of what's interesting in the book 1050 00:41:32,580 --> 00:41:37,220 is, like, I guess seeing it all happen 1051 00:41:37,220 --> 00:41:39,700 through the eyes of this 10-year-old boy who, again, 1052 00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:41,740 is obsessed with stamps. 1053 00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:45,500 We could have lost 50% of the stamp talk and the price of stamps 1054 00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:46,940 and who's on the stamp. 1055 00:41:46,940 --> 00:41:51,420 But yeah, watching kind of a kid who is so-- 1056 00:41:51,420 --> 00:41:54,100 you know, when you're a certain age, sometimes your parents 1057 00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:58,740 can just seem so dumb and old-fashioned, 1058 00:41:58,740 --> 00:42:00,500 and like, they don't get how the world works anymore. 1059 00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:05,180 And then, like, when you get older and you have more perspective, 1060 00:42:05,180 --> 00:42:07,180 you realize, like, the ways that they were right 1061 00:42:07,180 --> 00:42:08,180 or smart about something. 1062 00:42:08,180 --> 00:42:10,620 And so dad was right. 1063 00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:13,780 This was intended to weaken the family and pull them apart. 1064 00:42:13,780 --> 00:42:15,940 And it's kind of a sad moment. 1065 00:42:15,940 --> 00:42:17,940 I think he's at a point where he's starting 1066 00:42:17,940 --> 00:42:24,860 to see his parents as, like, less of, like, perfect humans 1067 00:42:24,860 --> 00:42:26,860 that can protect him at all times. 1068 00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:29,580 I feel like that also is happening at this age 1069 00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:33,020 where he's starting to realize, like, oh, OK, they're not. 1070 00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:34,100 They can't do everything. 1071 00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:37,340 They're not infallible kind of stuff. 1072 00:42:37,340 --> 00:42:39,140 And then, like, yeah. 1073 00:42:39,140 --> 00:42:41,420 But anyway, there's a whole-- 1074 00:42:41,420 --> 00:42:44,580 so that's some of the stuff that's happening. 1075 00:42:44,580 --> 00:42:53,940 So his aunt is running this Just Folks program. 1076 00:42:53,940 --> 00:42:57,700 So that's like a whole subplot where his aunt marries 1077 00:42:57,700 --> 00:43:01,260 rabbi Bengals door of who is in the Lindbergh White House. 1078 00:43:01,260 --> 00:43:02,900 And so they're kind of like a Jewish-- 1079 00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:04,060 a traitor to the Jews. 1080 00:43:04,060 --> 00:43:05,540 Like, a lot of people don't like him. 1081 00:43:05,540 --> 00:43:14,500 But he has his own argument for why he thinks it's good. 1082 00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:16,780 It's like better to support Lindbergh or that Lindbergh 1083 00:43:16,780 --> 00:43:18,580 isn't as bad, blah, blah, blah. 1084 00:43:18,580 --> 00:43:21,180 Anyway, his aunt-- he goes to his aunt, basically, 1085 00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:23,620 unless, like, begging for her not to send his family 1086 00:43:23,620 --> 00:43:25,140 to Kentucky. 1087 00:43:25,140 --> 00:43:28,620 And he kind of brings up his downstairs neighbor. 1088 00:43:28,620 --> 00:43:30,780 And kind of like, why can't you send them? 1089 00:43:30,780 --> 00:43:32,220 And she was like, oh, do you want me to? 1090 00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:33,860 Is that your friend? 1091 00:43:33,860 --> 00:43:36,740 And then he wanted them to just-- 1092 00:43:36,740 --> 00:43:38,380 heard us send them and not him. 1093 00:43:38,380 --> 00:43:41,900 But he just says yes, even though that's not true. 1094 00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:44,940 And so they get sent as well. 1095 00:43:44,940 --> 00:43:48,900 And so even though his family ends up not going 1096 00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:52,660 because his dad chooses to lose his job rather 1097 00:43:52,660 --> 00:43:57,180 than make the transfer, the little boy and his mom go. 1098 00:43:57,180 --> 00:44:01,700 And then there are some riots. 1099 00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:05,660 And I guess essentially like a massacre, Jesus Christ, 1100 00:44:05,660 --> 00:44:07,900 that his mom gets caught up in and the little boys 1101 00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:08,820 like home alone. 1102 00:44:08,820 --> 00:44:12,740 And it's kind of sad because it's like, oh, you see, 1103 00:44:12,740 --> 00:44:16,780 they didn't have any community because they were there. 1104 00:44:16,780 --> 00:44:18,500 To say it's kind of sad. 1105 00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:20,100 I guess that's crazy. 1106 00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:21,100 [LAUGHTER] 1107 00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:24,100 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1108 00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:35,340 Wow, it's tough. 1109 00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:36,620 It didn't really happen though. 1110 00:44:36,620 --> 00:44:37,460 It's not real history. 1111 00:44:37,460 --> 00:44:38,100 So nothing remember that. 1112 00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:39,100 That's true. 1113 00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:41,540 Mm-hmm. 1114 00:44:41,540 --> 00:44:44,260 But you know, I'll also say it hits harder 1115 00:44:44,260 --> 00:44:46,980 because the book wasn't filled with tragedy 1116 00:44:46,980 --> 00:44:49,580 after frickin tragedy. 1117 00:44:49,580 --> 00:44:51,780 Like so many of the books we read where you just 1118 00:44:51,780 --> 00:44:53,300 become numb to it all. 1119 00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:54,700 Yeah, you don't care anymore. 1120 00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:56,580 And you're rooting for something worse 1121 00:44:56,580 --> 00:44:57,780 to happen to the characters. 1122 00:44:57,780 --> 00:44:59,500 You're like, good, good. 1123 00:44:59,500 --> 00:45:00,500 Yeah. 1124 00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:03,460 This book, smartly, was like, we'll have them have a pretty 1125 00:45:03,460 --> 00:45:04,300 normal life. 1126 00:45:04,300 --> 00:45:07,220 A couple little bad things are going to happen, hardships. 1127 00:45:07,220 --> 00:45:09,580 But then, watch out. 1128 00:45:09,580 --> 00:45:12,180 Something really kind of sad is going to happen. 1129 00:45:12,180 --> 00:45:13,420 As Sarah would say. 1130 00:45:13,420 --> 00:45:14,740 OK, clearly. 1131 00:45:14,740 --> 00:45:16,300 A little-- 1132 00:45:16,300 --> 00:45:17,300 Hey, Clara. 1133 00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:20,380 I feel like something about this book 1134 00:45:20,380 --> 00:45:24,980 is that it felt so much more real than a lot of the books 1135 00:45:24,980 --> 00:45:26,140 that we read, which I guess-- 1136 00:45:26,140 --> 00:45:27,300 Yes. 1137 00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:29,300 --can be true with historical fiction. 1138 00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:34,660 But it genuinely felt like-- 1139 00:45:34,660 --> 00:45:37,180 I didn't want to root for anything bad to happen 1140 00:45:37,180 --> 00:45:39,140 because it felt like they were real people. 1141 00:45:39,140 --> 00:45:41,940 And I don't want bad things to happen to real people. 1142 00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:44,180 I guess I don't want them to happen to characters either, 1143 00:45:44,180 --> 00:45:46,580 but with the characters really bad. 1144 00:45:46,580 --> 00:45:47,580 Well, I always thought-- 1145 00:45:47,580 --> 00:45:49,300 No, I always thought of characters. 1146 00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:51,260 I thought his brother was interesting 1147 00:45:51,260 --> 00:45:54,980 because he goes to Kentucky and kind of does get brainwashed 1148 00:45:54,980 --> 00:45:56,340 a little. 1149 00:45:56,340 --> 00:45:59,700 But like, you know, thinks is like, hey, they were nice. 1150 00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:00,500 They were fine. 1151 00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:01,820 I got to eat a bunch of pig meat. 1152 00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:02,820 It was great. 1153 00:46:02,820 --> 00:46:04,060 I don't know. 1154 00:46:04,060 --> 00:46:09,020 It was just such a little kid calling his family ghetto, Jews. 1155 00:46:09,020 --> 00:46:09,820 Yeah, yeah. 1156 00:46:09,820 --> 00:46:13,860 Like, because he's embarrassed of them, which is like-- 1157 00:46:13,860 --> 00:46:15,460 I mean, like, we know what happens. 1158 00:46:15,460 --> 00:46:17,580 So we're like, hey, but you're not on the right side of history. 1159 00:46:17,580 --> 00:46:19,780 But like, as a teenager, you can kind of-- 1160 00:46:19,780 --> 00:46:23,220 if you imagine how you were a teenager at all being like, 1161 00:46:23,220 --> 00:46:24,700 my family's so embarrassing. 1162 00:46:24,700 --> 00:46:27,220 It's like taking that, but multiplying it 1163 00:46:27,220 --> 00:46:29,940 at times 100 because-- 1164 00:46:29,940 --> 00:46:33,860 That again, the cool family for a second. 1165 00:46:33,860 --> 00:46:34,380 Yeah. 1166 00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:35,180 So you're just saying-- 1167 00:46:35,180 --> 00:46:35,940 I'm going to eat meat. 1168 00:46:35,940 --> 00:46:38,180 Sarah, he was like right to say what he said. 1169 00:46:38,180 --> 00:46:39,180 Yeah, like I agree. 1170 00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:40,300 Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. 1171 00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:41,700 Miles, is that what you wanted? 1172 00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:42,980 No, no. 1173 00:46:42,980 --> 00:46:45,300 Miles, I haven't think about it all cast. 1174 00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:46,820 Thanks for recommending the book. 1175 00:46:46,820 --> 00:46:51,500 You know, I'm just joking around with-- 1176 00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:52,420 OK. 1177 00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:53,860 Are you afraid of what he'll do next? 1178 00:46:53,860 --> 00:46:55,740 Is that why? 1179 00:46:55,740 --> 00:46:56,740 What next-- 1180 00:46:56,740 --> 00:46:58,020 The next submission-- 1181 00:46:58,020 --> 00:47:00,740 Miles pays for us to have to read the Bible or something. 1182 00:47:00,740 --> 00:47:03,900 And we're like, Miles, at least we'll have fun 1183 00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:04,900 and make fun of. 1184 00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:06,460 Blake, please edit that out. 1185 00:47:06,460 --> 00:47:07,780 Please edit that out. 1186 00:47:07,780 --> 00:47:11,780 I don't want to place that idea in anyone's head. 1187 00:47:11,780 --> 00:47:15,020 That was my immediate fear of going to Sarah's joke. 1188 00:47:15,020 --> 00:47:16,260 I mean it. 1189 00:47:16,260 --> 00:47:16,860 I mean it. 1190 00:47:16,860 --> 00:47:18,740 Edit it out. 1191 00:47:18,740 --> 00:47:22,180 That just shows people listen to us. 1192 00:47:22,180 --> 00:47:22,700 Yeah. 1193 00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:25,580 But yeah, I don't know. 1194 00:47:25,580 --> 00:47:28,620 I guess going back to-- I feel like-- 1195 00:47:28,620 --> 00:47:31,380 yeah, my biggest issue is what Sabrina already said. 1196 00:47:31,380 --> 00:47:32,660 I didn't like that whole. 1197 00:47:32,660 --> 00:47:35,900 Well, maybe Lindbergh was just doing it because of this. 1198 00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:36,980 Whoopie-doo. 1199 00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:40,180 And then I also really didn't like how everything-- 1200 00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:41,820 he write it the ship by the end. 1201 00:47:41,820 --> 00:47:43,740 It just felt-- 1202 00:47:43,740 --> 00:47:44,260 I don't know. 1203 00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:48,420 That just felt too simple or easy or like-- 1204 00:47:48,420 --> 00:47:51,540 he'd done all this work to create the alternative history. 1205 00:47:51,540 --> 00:47:53,580 Why is it all the sudden? 1206 00:47:53,580 --> 00:47:53,980 I don't know. 1207 00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:55,860 I guess there's an argument to be made that like, 1208 00:47:55,860 --> 00:48:00,180 oh, the inevitability of the defeat of Nazism. 1209 00:48:00,180 --> 00:48:02,620 And that's why even if we went askew, 1210 00:48:02,620 --> 00:48:04,820 we would come back or I don't know. 1211 00:48:04,820 --> 00:48:06,380 But yeah. 1212 00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:09,620 Oh, TBD I guess. 1213 00:48:09,620 --> 00:48:11,180 Yeah, TBD. 1214 00:48:11,180 --> 00:48:14,340 Doing what I want to talk about current times, 1215 00:48:14,340 --> 00:48:15,460 is Miles requested? 1216 00:48:15,460 --> 00:48:18,900 Or I feel like the only thing I can say 1217 00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:21,460 is I guess if you're comparing him to Lindbergh, 1218 00:48:21,460 --> 00:48:23,420 it's like Lindbergh. 1219 00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:26,100 Yeah, he was like a celebrity who became president. 1220 00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:32,260 But he was also very well spoken and charming. 1221 00:48:32,260 --> 00:48:35,460 And at least once he became president, 1222 00:48:35,460 --> 00:48:38,220 he didn't say, oh, anything like openly any symmetric. 1223 00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:40,460 He toned stuff down. 1224 00:48:40,460 --> 00:48:44,380 So it was like, so a breath couldn't even imagine. 1225 00:48:44,380 --> 00:48:45,700 That it would be. 1226 00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:46,940 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1227 00:48:46,940 --> 00:48:50,620 So that's why I think it always loses a lot of bite 1228 00:48:50,620 --> 00:48:55,460 because you're like, well, he could have been a lot more openly 1229 00:48:55,460 --> 00:48:55,980 that way. 1230 00:48:55,980 --> 00:48:58,060 And we would have been like, yep, sounds about right. 1231 00:48:58,060 --> 00:48:59,820 Sounds like Americans. 1232 00:48:59,820 --> 00:49:03,620 That we know would be like, yeah, he's tall in it like it is. 1233 00:49:03,620 --> 00:49:05,260 And we'd love it. 1234 00:49:05,260 --> 00:49:08,340 And that's upsetting, but also true. 1235 00:49:08,860 --> 00:49:11,500 Yeah, I don't know. 1236 00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:12,340 We're still in it. 1237 00:49:12,340 --> 00:49:15,940 So it's kind of hard to reflect back on, do you know what I mean? 1238 00:49:15,940 --> 00:49:18,260 Mm-hmm. 1239 00:49:18,260 --> 00:49:21,140 Like what people are saying. 1240 00:49:21,140 --> 00:49:23,420 I was just going to say, like whenever the book got to a point 1241 00:49:23,420 --> 00:49:26,180 where it was like, well, that's a bit of a stretch. 1242 00:49:26,180 --> 00:49:27,060 Oh, right. 1243 00:49:27,060 --> 00:49:31,140 It's not kind of was the all the context I needed 1244 00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:35,140 for the current administration. 1245 00:49:35,140 --> 00:49:37,540 And then you get a little bit sad. 1246 00:49:37,540 --> 00:49:38,380 Yeah. 1247 00:49:38,380 --> 00:49:40,660 It's not-- nothing was too much of a stretch, 1248 00:49:40,660 --> 00:49:45,060 but I went into good reads and just kind of like see, you know, 1249 00:49:45,060 --> 00:49:49,060 because we're like, oh, this is such a highly-alloweded book. 1250 00:49:49,060 --> 00:49:52,180 I was like, what did some people say bad about it? 1251 00:49:52,180 --> 00:49:55,620 And this was just a quote from one of them. 1252 00:49:55,620 --> 00:49:58,980 By the way, Linberg as president is described 1253 00:49:58,980 --> 00:50:02,780 as flying an extremely fast two-engine fighter, a Lockheed 1254 00:50:02,780 --> 00:50:05,460 Interceptor on recreational flights over Washington 1255 00:50:05,460 --> 00:50:09,580 and the Potomac, a plane by that name didn't exist then. 1256 00:50:09,580 --> 00:50:12,780 Though Lockheed later made an interceptor in the early '60s. 1257 00:50:12,780 --> 00:50:16,740 The USAF pulled the plug on it, and it never went into full production. 1258 00:50:16,740 --> 00:50:19,220 But it did become a prototype of the Blackbird reconnaissance 1259 00:50:19,220 --> 00:50:19,740 jet. 1260 00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:22,340 Point is, this violates one of the accepted tenets 1261 00:50:22,340 --> 00:50:25,580 of historical fiction that period detail should be accurate. 1262 00:50:25,580 --> 00:50:29,220 One wonders how authentic was the author's memoir of his family 1263 00:50:29,220 --> 00:50:30,780 in the New York Jewish community. 1264 00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:33,060 Oh, my God. 1265 00:50:33,060 --> 00:50:39,340 Did I get a spin around and attack this person's memoir as well? 1266 00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:39,940 I love that. 1267 00:50:39,940 --> 00:50:42,580 I know so much about planes. 1268 00:50:42,580 --> 00:50:44,180 Now the scrumbles. 1269 00:50:44,180 --> 00:50:47,460 That does bring up one of the funnier points of the book to me, 1270 00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:52,580 which was that Linberg apparently, after he was elected president, 1271 00:50:52,580 --> 00:50:58,940 would fly his 500-mile per hour plane over Washington, D.C. every afternoon. 1272 00:50:58,940 --> 00:51:01,380 And people would go crazy for it. 1273 00:51:01,380 --> 00:51:02,340 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1274 00:51:02,340 --> 00:51:07,820 It's just as like, especially with how often planes wrecked at that time. 1275 00:51:07,820 --> 00:51:10,100 It's just like so I mean. 1276 00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:12,740 And they do, and so they do in this program. 1277 00:51:12,740 --> 00:51:15,340 And again, yes. 1278 00:51:15,340 --> 00:51:18,260 But it was very crazy and unhinged. 1279 00:51:18,260 --> 00:51:19,260 Yeah. 1280 00:51:19,260 --> 00:51:22,500 I don't think President even drive their own cars. 1281 00:51:22,500 --> 00:51:25,620 So I do think that was-- 1282 00:51:25,620 --> 00:51:27,500 I guess it was his version of golfing. 1283 00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:30,460 But it's like, don't you have paperwork to do? 1284 00:51:30,460 --> 00:51:31,980 We all have normal jobs. 1285 00:51:31,980 --> 00:51:36,900 And I definitely don't have time to fly my plane. 1286 00:51:36,900 --> 00:51:39,180 I mean, just think of the time involved in that, right? 1287 00:51:39,180 --> 00:51:40,980 You have to get out to the airfield. 1288 00:51:40,980 --> 00:51:42,900 Do all this stuff to start a plane. 1289 00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:43,380 What is that? 1290 00:51:43,380 --> 00:51:45,140 Hours, plane checks, fuel. 1291 00:51:45,140 --> 00:51:45,820 I don't know. 1292 00:51:45,820 --> 00:51:47,940 Abby Wadge for the weather. 1293 00:51:47,940 --> 00:51:49,780 Abby Wadge and Nathan Fielder's show. 1294 00:51:49,780 --> 00:51:50,780 Yes, I have. 1295 00:51:50,780 --> 00:51:51,780 I'm-- 1296 00:51:51,780 --> 00:51:52,580 So I'm-- 1297 00:51:52,580 --> 00:51:55,820 I do think the president could get someone to do the checks for him. 1298 00:51:55,820 --> 00:51:57,180 Sure, but he's still to get to the airs. 1299 00:51:57,180 --> 00:51:58,420 He's just to fly it. 1300 00:51:58,420 --> 00:51:59,220 A way. 1301 00:51:59,220 --> 00:52:00,220 Yeah. 1302 00:52:00,220 --> 00:52:01,740 It still seems a lot. 1303 00:52:01,740 --> 00:52:02,620 He likes it, though. 1304 00:52:02,620 --> 00:52:04,180 You have to understand he likes it, though. 1305 00:52:04,180 --> 00:52:06,780 So if he can make a reason to do it, maybe he will-- 1306 00:52:06,780 --> 00:52:07,860 I get it. 1307 00:52:07,860 --> 00:52:11,900 Just as someone who, like, I had cereal for dinner tonight, 1308 00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:15,580 I haven't exercised in three years. 1309 00:52:15,580 --> 00:52:17,780 [LAUGHTER] 1310 00:52:17,780 --> 00:52:21,380 I don't understand how he could have that. 1311 00:52:21,380 --> 00:52:22,140 How exactly. 1312 00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:23,380 Have that much free time. 1313 00:52:23,380 --> 00:52:24,140 That's all. 1314 00:52:24,140 --> 00:52:25,420 Well, he's not helping with the children. 1315 00:52:25,420 --> 00:52:27,420 I can play that. 1316 00:52:27,420 --> 00:52:28,580 Yes. 1317 00:52:28,580 --> 00:52:28,980 Yes. 1318 00:52:28,980 --> 00:52:30,420 Yeah. 1319 00:52:30,420 --> 00:52:33,060 Also, it doesn't seem like he's doing a great job 1320 00:52:33,060 --> 00:52:36,780 at being president outside of this, you know? 1321 00:52:36,780 --> 00:52:39,940 Yeah, the country's kind of going hell in it. 1322 00:52:39,940 --> 00:52:42,220 Everyone's divided. 1323 00:52:42,220 --> 00:52:43,340 Wait, also, sorry. 1324 00:52:43,340 --> 00:52:47,580 I just went back to the Lindbergh kidnapping briefly. 1325 00:52:47,580 --> 00:52:51,340 And I'm reading that the child's corpse 1326 00:52:51,340 --> 00:52:55,140 was discovered in a nearby road at Jason Hopewell Township. 1327 00:52:55,140 --> 00:52:57,580 You said it was like in their backyard. 1328 00:52:57,580 --> 00:52:58,580 It was. 1329 00:52:58,580 --> 00:52:59,860 It was very close. 1330 00:52:59,860 --> 00:53:03,940 It was within a mile of the house. 1331 00:53:03,940 --> 00:53:05,820 OK, I feel like this is a little different than saying the-- 1332 00:53:05,820 --> 00:53:10,620 And see, this is the danger of historical things, OK? 1333 00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:14,300 OK, look, it's been a quite a large estate, I guess. 1334 00:53:14,300 --> 00:53:15,860 It was found on their grounds. 1335 00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:17,980 I'm positive. 1336 00:53:17,980 --> 00:53:19,020 OK. 1337 00:53:19,020 --> 00:53:21,020 In the book or in real life? 1338 00:53:21,020 --> 00:53:21,500 Both. 1339 00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:22,900 This is what we're talking about. 1340 00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:26,620 In a different fake book. 1341 00:53:26,620 --> 00:53:29,780 OK, he was found approximately 4 1/2 miles away. 1342 00:53:29,780 --> 00:53:30,860 OK. 1343 00:53:30,860 --> 00:53:31,900 All right. 1344 00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:34,700 Well, look, I read the book a long time ago. 1345 00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:36,180 I don't think this is a failure of the book. 1346 00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:39,980 I think this is a failure of my memory, which is famously 1347 00:53:39,980 --> 00:53:41,420 very bad. 1348 00:53:41,420 --> 00:53:42,420 Oh, my God. 1349 00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:45,420 You'd rather insult yourself on the book. 1350 00:53:45,420 --> 00:53:47,700 It's going back to a larger point 1351 00:53:47,700 --> 00:53:49,780 that I'm trying to win against Sarah. 1352 00:53:49,780 --> 00:53:51,500 I mean, I've already won it. 1353 00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:52,540 I don't think that's true. 1354 00:53:52,540 --> 00:53:53,780 And all the listeners know it. 1355 00:53:53,780 --> 00:53:54,780 That's true. 1356 00:53:54,780 --> 00:53:55,900 No, I don't think so. 1357 00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:58,220 I know they do. 1358 00:53:58,220 --> 00:53:59,140 Oh, God. 1359 00:53:59,140 --> 00:54:02,700 But what's the book's name, by the way, Johnny? 1360 00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:04,140 I feel like it's called the Lynn Brodden. 1361 00:54:04,140 --> 00:54:05,140 The Lynn Brodden. 1362 00:54:05,140 --> 00:54:06,140 The Lynn Brodden. 1363 00:54:06,140 --> 00:54:08,140 Oh, you did say it was called the Lynn Brodden. 1364 00:54:08,140 --> 00:54:09,140 The Lynn Brodden. 1365 00:54:09,140 --> 00:54:11,260 Which is a book I started reading accidentally. 1366 00:54:11,260 --> 00:54:14,380 I swear around the same time that I myself 1367 00:54:14,380 --> 00:54:16,020 hired a nanny for the first time. 1368 00:54:16,020 --> 00:54:17,260 Oh, no. 1369 00:54:17,260 --> 00:54:19,300 And then I was like, oh, no. 1370 00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:22,340 What if she thinks this is something 1371 00:54:22,340 --> 00:54:25,220 I'm doing out of fear of her? 1372 00:54:25,220 --> 00:54:26,860 She's a surprise. 1373 00:54:26,860 --> 00:54:29,100 So I buried it under a pile of other books. 1374 00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:30,820 But that might have even been more suspicious. 1375 00:54:30,820 --> 00:54:32,820 One day, it's out the next eight days. 1376 00:54:32,820 --> 00:54:36,780 It has a dust cover on it. 1377 00:54:36,780 --> 00:54:39,260 Wow, he went to Sidwell, friends. 1378 00:54:39,260 --> 00:54:40,900 Lynn Burke. 1379 00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:43,260 What is-- oh, is this one of the private schools 1380 00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:45,420 that you know about from your wife? 1381 00:54:45,420 --> 00:54:49,060 It's a private school I know about from someone I worked with. 1382 00:54:49,060 --> 00:54:49,820 Oh, OK. 1383 00:54:49,820 --> 00:54:51,260 It's near me. 1384 00:54:51,260 --> 00:54:52,100 It's near where I lived. 1385 00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:53,100 Yeah. 1386 00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:54,100 Oh. 1387 00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:54,780 I-- 1388 00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:55,660 It's Quaker. 1389 00:54:55,660 --> 00:54:59,060 Millikid, who went there, but he went to my school. 1390 00:54:59,060 --> 00:55:01,780 Because he got expelled from there. 1391 00:55:01,780 --> 00:55:03,580 It is Quaker, yes. 1392 00:55:03,580 --> 00:55:04,260 Yeah, yeah. 1393 00:55:04,260 --> 00:55:05,500 In Bethesda. 1394 00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:06,500 Wow. 1395 00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:08,060 This is what the friends-- 1396 00:55:08,060 --> 00:55:08,700 Interesting. 1397 00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:11,980 And he shares a birthday with Meg. 1398 00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:12,580 Different year. 1399 00:55:12,580 --> 00:55:13,100 Huh. 1400 00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:18,020 Different year. 1401 00:55:18,020 --> 00:55:18,580 Yeah. 1402 00:55:18,580 --> 00:55:22,300 Well, a lot of New Jersey representation. 1403 00:55:22,300 --> 00:55:23,180 Well, I don't know. 1404 00:55:23,180 --> 00:55:23,700 I'm sorry. 1405 00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:25,700 I don't think I have anything else to say about this part 1406 00:55:25,700 --> 00:55:27,500 to say funny. 1407 00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:29,900 Yeah, I don't. 1408 00:55:29,900 --> 00:55:32,220 This was a hard book for me, truly. 1409 00:55:32,220 --> 00:55:36,100 It's just-- it's a great book if this is the type of book 1410 00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:38,060 you want to read is really what I think. 1411 00:55:38,060 --> 00:55:38,940 And I get-- 1412 00:55:38,940 --> 00:55:42,020 I kind of think that that complaint that that person had 1413 00:55:42,020 --> 00:55:47,900 about that plane almost betrays the research 1414 00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:55,340 that he did do because he knew that it existed in some form. 1415 00:55:55,340 --> 00:55:56,820 If I understood her comment correctly, 1416 00:55:56,820 --> 00:55:58,820 it never took flight. 1417 00:55:58,820 --> 00:56:01,740 But it's like he's so in the depths of the research 1418 00:56:01,740 --> 00:56:03,780 that he's finding this plane that didn't take flight. 1419 00:56:03,780 --> 00:56:05,820 And maybe he just kind of liked the name of the plane. 1420 00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:06,300 Or-- 1421 00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:09,660 Yeah, I just didn't bother me because I'm like, maybe he says, 1422 00:56:09,660 --> 00:56:16,020 in his alternative history, starting in 1939, it did take-- 1423 00:56:16,020 --> 00:56:16,660 you know what I mean? 1424 00:56:16,660 --> 00:56:17,020 I don't know. 1425 00:56:17,020 --> 00:56:18,180 That doesn't bother me so much. 1426 00:56:18,180 --> 00:56:19,660 It's like impressive enough. 1427 00:56:19,660 --> 00:56:21,820 Well, it all bothered me. 1428 00:56:21,820 --> 00:56:23,100 It all bothered me. 1429 00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:25,340 All of the fake comments are going to learn. 1430 00:56:25,340 --> 00:56:30,620 I do more so think that this book is more of just like a coming 1431 00:56:30,620 --> 00:56:31,460 of age story. 1432 00:56:31,460 --> 00:56:34,460 And I feel like if you come into it knowing that, 1433 00:56:34,460 --> 00:56:38,340 and that like, oh, it's an interesting setting for it, 1434 00:56:38,340 --> 00:56:40,780 to me, it's a-- 1435 00:56:40,780 --> 00:56:43,100 It's sell-- or not sells it, but it's not like misleading. 1436 00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:44,020 That's a good read. 1437 00:56:44,020 --> 00:56:47,380 Because I do think it was a sweet-- 1438 00:56:47,380 --> 00:56:47,900 Oh, yeah. 1439 00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:49,420 I liked the little boy-- 1440 00:56:49,420 --> 00:56:53,980 Yeah, like the swastika on the cover really 1441 00:56:53,980 --> 00:56:56,420 doesn't make you think you're following a 10-year-old boy around. 1442 00:56:56,420 --> 00:56:57,820 Yeah, and a lot against America. 1443 00:56:57,820 --> 00:57:00,780 The plot is like something mentioned towards the end 1444 00:57:00,780 --> 00:57:02,220 and is not even like real. 1445 00:57:02,220 --> 00:57:04,460 It's all just like maybe somebody thinks 1446 00:57:04,460 --> 00:57:05,340 this might have happened. 1447 00:57:05,340 --> 00:57:07,940 So it's like, it's a little misleading enough. 1448 00:57:07,940 --> 00:57:11,740 But who is America, if not our nation's children, 1449 00:57:11,740 --> 00:57:12,780 the 10-year-olds? 1450 00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:13,540 Yeah. 1451 00:57:13,540 --> 00:57:18,180 I'm actually coming around on it more because it's also like, 1452 00:57:18,180 --> 00:57:22,500 yeah, that's what happens is when a fascist leader takes 1453 00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:24,820 over, like people-- 1454 00:57:24,820 --> 00:57:28,180 unfortunately, just kind of have to go about their daily lives. 1455 00:57:28,180 --> 00:57:29,420 That is true. 1456 00:57:29,420 --> 00:57:32,620 And you have to think about-- 1457 00:57:32,620 --> 00:57:33,660 This isn't a joke. 1458 00:57:33,660 --> 00:57:37,860 You are thinking about things like your stamp collection day-to-day. 1459 00:57:37,860 --> 00:57:41,300 But the overall thing that's going on in the country 1460 00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:44,180 is like infesting everything that happens. 1461 00:57:44,180 --> 00:57:45,260 And that is? 1462 00:57:45,260 --> 00:57:46,100 Yes. 1463 00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:46,860 Yeah, that's true. 1464 00:57:46,860 --> 00:57:49,900 And within the book, one of the things you noticed 1465 00:57:49,900 --> 00:57:53,220 is that they brought up is kind of like the Jews turning 1466 00:57:53,220 --> 00:57:56,380 against other Jews because they don't want to be associated 1467 00:57:56,380 --> 00:58:00,660 with the Jew being that the government's-- 1468 00:58:00,660 --> 00:58:04,100 and that was a big issue because the FBI was following his cousin 1469 00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:05,020 and then his dad. 1470 00:58:05,020 --> 00:58:07,900 And that was part of the reason the dad was fired 1471 00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:09,620 from the grocery store. 1472 00:58:09,620 --> 00:58:11,900 Even though it was run by a Jew, they were like, 1473 00:58:11,900 --> 00:58:14,300 we just don't want to be associated. 1474 00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:18,380 And I do feel like that kind of stuff kind of happens 1475 00:58:18,380 --> 00:58:18,980 to this day. 1476 00:58:18,980 --> 00:58:19,480 I don't know. 1477 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,860 I don't want to talk about a ton of current events 1478 00:58:21,860 --> 00:58:23,700 because I don't think that's usually our vibe. 1479 00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:32,340 But there was a recent New York Times article I read about. 1480 00:58:32,340 --> 00:58:33,860 Some plant-- 1481 00:58:33,860 --> 00:58:35,180 and I can't remember. 1482 00:58:35,180 --> 00:58:38,140 I want to say Nebraska, but I'm sure that's not the right time. 1483 00:58:38,140 --> 00:58:39,780 But there was an ice raid. 1484 00:58:39,780 --> 00:58:46,180 And 50% of the workers there were either taken away 1485 00:58:46,180 --> 00:58:48,820 or they were too scared to return because of the raid. 1486 00:58:48,820 --> 00:58:52,420 And then production plummeted, 70%. 1487 00:58:52,420 --> 00:58:53,780 And it's just insane. 1488 00:58:53,780 --> 00:58:56,340 And they're just like the owner was just like, 1489 00:58:56,340 --> 00:58:58,460 yeah, I can't hire anyone. 1490 00:58:58,460 --> 00:59:01,620 Nobody wants these jobs. 1491 00:59:01,620 --> 00:59:07,780 Like, and we were doing everything right. 1492 00:59:07,780 --> 00:59:09,260 They were using-- they had. 1493 00:59:09,260 --> 00:59:11,540 They were using so stolen social security or whatever. 1494 00:59:11,540 --> 00:59:12,860 So they passed the checks. 1495 00:59:12,860 --> 00:59:16,020 But it's like, I'm so afraid of this happening again. 1496 00:59:16,020 --> 00:59:16,900 I don't know what to do. 1497 00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:20,420 And so you can see them definitely starting 1498 00:59:20,420 --> 00:59:26,580 to probably not hire anybody that they think, oh, 1499 00:59:26,580 --> 00:59:28,300 they come from this descent. 1500 00:59:28,300 --> 00:59:29,620 They have this accent. 1501 00:59:29,620 --> 00:59:31,700 I'm afraid they might be illegal. 1502 00:59:31,700 --> 00:59:32,220 I don't know. 1503 00:59:32,220 --> 00:59:37,540 You can easily see where that kind of stuff starts 1504 00:59:37,540 --> 00:59:40,500 to the slippery slope happens. 1505 00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:42,260 And this is so fun, though. 1506 00:59:42,260 --> 00:59:43,740 You guys? 1507 00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:45,500 We're good. 1508 00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:48,220 I'm drinking a margarita. 1509 00:59:48,220 --> 00:59:49,860 It's a junshine. 1510 00:59:49,860 --> 00:59:52,260 And whatever. 1511 00:59:52,260 --> 00:59:54,780 [INAUDIBLE] 1512 00:59:54,780 --> 00:59:59,540 Well, I guess, on to Sabrina's point of whatever 1513 00:59:59,540 --> 01:00:02,700 is going on in the world, whatever is going on in your life, 1514 01:00:02,700 --> 01:00:04,620 things do just carry on. 1515 01:00:04,620 --> 01:00:07,500 You do think about your little stamp collection. 1516 01:00:07,500 --> 01:00:11,700 And I remember this year, it's been a tough year 1517 01:00:11,700 --> 01:00:12,580 for a lot of people. 1518 01:00:12,580 --> 01:00:15,540 But there was a morning I took an early morning walk. 1519 01:00:15,540 --> 01:00:18,700 And I was just up early, walk in the dog, 1520 01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:21,540 and just like, 6 o'clock in the morning. 1521 01:00:21,540 --> 01:00:24,580 You see people outside, opening up their stores 1522 01:00:24,580 --> 01:00:27,020 and their restaurants and loading in boxes, 1523 01:00:27,020 --> 01:00:28,780 getting the early morning delivery. 1524 01:00:28,780 --> 01:00:32,300 Sometimes there's just something to see other people just 1525 01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:35,660 going on because they have to, because it's 6 o'clock. 1526 01:00:35,660 --> 01:00:38,260 And the bodega opens at 6 o'clock. 1527 01:00:38,260 --> 01:00:42,340 So I have my loading boxes that you're just like, OK, yeah. 1528 01:00:42,340 --> 01:00:47,140 And I also can go do the things I need to do today. 1529 01:00:47,140 --> 01:00:49,540 Yeah, you can just pick up this dog's share. 1530 01:00:49,540 --> 01:00:52,660 You know, first thing is what I'm going to do. 1531 01:00:52,660 --> 01:00:56,620 Did you have to get it tested? 1532 01:00:56,620 --> 01:00:59,540 No, I didn't just had to pick it up like a good citizen. 1533 01:00:59,540 --> 01:01:00,620 I always do. 1534 01:01:00,620 --> 01:01:02,900 And less, I forgot a dog bag. 1535 01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:08,300 And then I desperately search for one. 1536 01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:09,140 Or for trash. 1537 01:01:09,140 --> 01:01:11,740 Or for trash on the screen, which I have done. 1538 01:01:11,740 --> 01:01:13,020 More times than I'd like to say. 1539 01:01:13,020 --> 01:01:15,300 Yeah, that bag looks pretty clean. 1540 01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:16,820 So that's what I do. 1541 01:01:16,820 --> 01:01:18,020 Oh, Doritos bag. 1542 01:01:18,020 --> 01:01:18,980 Oh, yeah, Doritos bag. 1543 01:01:18,980 --> 01:01:20,340 Someone was eating out of that. 1544 01:01:20,340 --> 01:01:21,260 That's fine. 1545 01:01:21,260 --> 01:01:22,460 I'll put my hand on that. 1546 01:01:22,460 --> 01:01:24,860 That's good enough for the poop. 1547 01:01:24,860 --> 01:01:25,500 All right. 1548 01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:28,220 This is an ad for cats, everybody. 1549 01:01:28,220 --> 01:01:29,260 No way. 1550 01:01:29,260 --> 01:01:31,900 No, I would say that I would never think you missing it. 1551 01:01:31,900 --> 01:01:33,340 It's like, I love the dogs. 1552 01:01:33,340 --> 01:01:34,460 I'm not a geno care. 1553 01:01:34,460 --> 01:01:37,420 If I'm putting my hand in a mystery bag to pick up their poop. 1554 01:01:37,420 --> 01:01:38,300 Yeah, it's nothing. 1555 01:01:38,300 --> 01:01:40,620 I don't-- it's not like I live with poop in my house. 1556 01:01:40,620 --> 01:01:42,460 Or get a backyard. 1557 01:01:42,460 --> 01:01:47,540 I would never want to live with shit in my house just hanging out 1558 01:01:47,540 --> 01:01:48,420 with children. 1559 01:01:48,420 --> 01:01:50,460 Yeah, with children. 1560 01:01:50,460 --> 01:01:52,140 Well, the shit goes in a cat. 1561 01:01:52,140 --> 01:01:53,540 Cats want to use the bell. 1562 01:01:53,540 --> 01:01:56,500 Cats use a toilet. 1563 01:01:56,500 --> 01:01:57,540 They're toilet. 1564 01:01:57,540 --> 01:01:58,860 That's not a toilet. 1565 01:01:58,860 --> 01:02:00,660 It's something you put your feet in. 1566 01:02:00,660 --> 01:02:01,460 Pan, toilet. 1567 01:02:01,460 --> 01:02:02,300 Your hands are heated. 1568 01:02:02,300 --> 01:02:05,340 You call a bonk or anything could be a toilet. 1569 01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:08,460 The ground could be a toilet based on your definition. 1570 01:02:08,460 --> 01:02:13,540 Listen, in desperate times, a mesh trash can can become one. 1571 01:02:13,540 --> 01:02:15,180 It sounds like you're speaking for me. 1572 01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:16,180 I'm scared. 1573 01:02:16,180 --> 01:02:17,180 I'm scared. 1574 01:02:17,180 --> 01:02:18,820 I don't like this at all. 1575 01:02:18,820 --> 01:02:19,780 I'm just saying. 1576 01:02:19,780 --> 01:02:20,900 Well, for one-pens day-- 1577 01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:24,260 Craziest place, everyone's peaked. 1578 01:02:24,260 --> 01:02:28,220 The street in London, on New Year's Eve in an alley. 1579 01:02:28,220 --> 01:02:31,780 And then I watched a bunch of other women were doing it, 1580 01:02:31,780 --> 01:02:32,980 because there were no bathrooms. 1581 01:02:32,980 --> 01:02:34,580 And then I watched a woman behind me 1582 01:02:34,580 --> 01:02:36,500 who was really drunk, reached down and grabbed 1583 01:02:36,500 --> 01:02:38,340 a scrap of paper from the ground and used it 1584 01:02:38,340 --> 01:02:39,340 to wipe. 1585 01:02:39,340 --> 01:02:40,340 And I said, no! 1586 01:02:40,340 --> 01:02:43,260 [LAUGHTER] 1587 01:02:43,260 --> 01:02:43,940 That's upsetting. 1588 01:02:43,940 --> 01:02:45,020 That is sad. 1589 01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:45,700 All right. 1590 01:02:45,700 --> 01:02:47,020 Should we do good news? 1591 01:02:47,020 --> 01:02:48,580 Why is there a news game? 1592 01:02:48,580 --> 01:02:49,580 [LAUGHTER] 1593 01:02:49,580 --> 01:02:51,580 I just think, you can't ask the question. 1594 01:02:51,580 --> 01:02:52,260 I jump in. 1595 01:02:52,260 --> 01:02:54,660 [LAUGHTER] 1596 01:02:54,660 --> 01:02:56,660 Sorry, Sarah's moving it along. 1597 01:02:56,660 --> 01:02:58,660 Damn it. 1598 01:02:58,660 --> 01:02:59,260 I'm sorry. 1599 01:02:59,260 --> 01:02:59,860 Go ahead. 1600 01:02:59,860 --> 01:03:01,260 What do you want to say? 1601 01:03:01,260 --> 01:03:02,660 No, what do you want to say? 1602 01:03:02,660 --> 01:03:04,340 Clare, politely ask me a question. 1603 01:03:04,340 --> 01:03:06,500 Everyone, please. 1604 01:03:06,500 --> 01:03:07,340 Don't be rude. 1605 01:03:07,340 --> 01:03:08,860 It's weird as place you've ever peed. 1606 01:03:08,860 --> 01:03:11,860 Go ahead. 1607 01:03:11,860 --> 01:03:13,420 I feel like it was just to you. 1608 01:03:13,420 --> 01:03:16,660 I didn't have-- I didn't feel it was a question for us all. 1609 01:03:16,660 --> 01:03:18,860 She did say everyone, I believe. 1610 01:03:18,860 --> 01:03:19,380 Yeah. 1611 01:03:19,380 --> 01:03:19,900 I didn't. 1612 01:03:19,900 --> 01:03:20,900 I was choosing to-- 1613 01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:23,100 I was choosing to not take-- 1614 01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:28,540 I mean, just to clarify, if my answer wasn't the mesh trash can, 1615 01:03:28,540 --> 01:03:31,820 that would be like a bad and worse place 1616 01:03:31,820 --> 01:03:34,020 than I had gone to the bathroom. 1617 01:03:34,020 --> 01:03:34,860 I don't know. 1618 01:03:34,860 --> 01:03:36,740 In my bed. 1619 01:03:36,740 --> 01:03:38,140 That's embarrassing. 1620 01:03:38,140 --> 01:03:38,980 The other ones were funny. 1621 01:03:38,980 --> 01:03:41,980 Yeah, you're old though, right? 1622 01:03:41,980 --> 01:03:43,180 Yeah, I really old. 1623 01:03:43,180 --> 01:03:43,980 OK. 1624 01:03:43,980 --> 01:03:45,380 I was pregnant. 1625 01:03:45,380 --> 01:03:48,940 In high school, we'd hang out at the 7/11. 1626 01:03:48,940 --> 01:03:50,380 And there was like an alley. 1627 01:03:50,380 --> 01:03:54,340 People would go to pee in when you needed to pee. 1628 01:03:54,340 --> 01:03:57,180 But I was not going to the right place. 1629 01:03:57,180 --> 01:03:59,540 And was just pissing in someone's front yard. 1630 01:03:59,540 --> 01:04:01,820 And I was like, I guess this is where everyone's going. 1631 01:04:01,820 --> 01:04:03,780 And they've been calling this an alley. 1632 01:04:03,780 --> 01:04:05,020 What was this? 1633 01:04:05,020 --> 01:04:06,780 You went to a 7/11-- 1634 01:04:06,780 --> 01:04:07,620 A front yard. 1635 01:04:07,620 --> 01:04:08,460 To hang out. 1636 01:04:08,460 --> 01:04:11,060 There were no bathrooms. 1637 01:04:11,060 --> 01:04:14,700 And-- but you were there so long. 1638 01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:17,420 Yeah, you'd sort of have like one little water bottle of vodka 1639 01:04:17,420 --> 01:04:19,500 that you passed around or something. 1640 01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:20,580 This is a disaster. 1641 01:04:20,580 --> 01:04:22,220 You were drinking? 1642 01:04:22,220 --> 01:04:23,820 OK. 1643 01:04:23,820 --> 01:04:26,780 Where were the workers at the 7/11? 1644 01:04:26,780 --> 01:04:28,180 Inside the 7/11. 1645 01:04:28,180 --> 01:04:29,660 Do you hang out outside of it? 1646 01:04:29,660 --> 01:04:32,380 Did other people not do this? 1647 01:04:32,380 --> 01:04:33,140 I didn't. 1648 01:04:33,140 --> 01:04:33,620 But-- 1649 01:04:33,620 --> 01:04:35,940 Speaking of-- 1650 01:04:35,940 --> 01:04:42,140 Last night, we ran into a wine store in New Hampshire 1651 01:04:42,140 --> 01:04:44,620 to buy a bottle of wine. 1652 01:04:44,620 --> 01:04:48,420 And I had forgotten my ID. 1653 01:04:48,420 --> 01:04:50,540 And I felt like they were going to carve me. 1654 01:04:50,540 --> 01:04:52,620 So I was like, I should just go out to the car. 1655 01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:55,540 And Meg was like, she didn't understand what I was saying. 1656 01:04:55,540 --> 01:04:59,500 So she was just loudly like, no, come to the counter with me. 1657 01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:02,340 And I was like, well, there's no escaping this now. 1658 01:05:02,340 --> 01:05:04,580 And then the woman was like, nope. 1659 01:05:04,580 --> 01:05:06,220 Can't sell it to you. 1660 01:05:06,220 --> 01:05:07,420 Meg had her ID. 1661 01:05:07,420 --> 01:05:09,540 And I was like, I have a photo of my ID. 1662 01:05:09,540 --> 01:05:10,700 And then she was like, nope. 1663 01:05:10,700 --> 01:05:11,500 That doesn't do it. 1664 01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:12,780 I was like, can I leave? 1665 01:05:12,780 --> 01:05:13,900 And she was like, nope. 1666 01:05:13,900 --> 01:05:15,500 That's too late. 1667 01:05:15,500 --> 01:05:19,940 She was like, OK, don't sell us this bottle of wine 1668 01:05:19,940 --> 01:05:22,460 because you think I might be under 21. 1669 01:05:22,460 --> 01:05:23,260 I was so mad. 1670 01:05:23,260 --> 01:05:27,820 But then we went back today to get the bottle of wine. 1671 01:05:27,820 --> 01:05:29,660 Because we're getting as a thank you for-- 1672 01:05:29,660 --> 01:05:30,460 Andrew in the-- 1673 01:05:30,460 --> 01:05:31,460 I don't see it anywhere else. 1674 01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:32,300 I can't believe. 1675 01:05:32,300 --> 01:05:34,540 The prices are so good. 1676 01:05:34,540 --> 01:05:37,020 And I had my ID. 1677 01:05:37,020 --> 01:05:38,100 They scanned it. 1678 01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:40,940 And she was like, that sound means this is a fake ID. 1679 01:05:40,940 --> 01:05:42,140 And I was like, it's not-- 1680 01:05:42,140 --> 01:05:43,140 No. 1681 01:05:43,140 --> 01:05:44,140 No. 1682 01:05:44,140 --> 01:05:45,740 So she remembered you. 1683 01:05:45,740 --> 01:05:46,940 No, it was a different lady. 1684 01:05:46,940 --> 01:05:49,100 And she was actually nice. 1685 01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:50,620 But she was like, I'll scan it again. 1686 01:05:50,620 --> 01:05:53,180 But that's the sound of not a valid ID. 1687 01:05:53,180 --> 01:05:57,180 And I was like, this is my real ID that I was just bullied 1688 01:05:57,180 --> 01:06:01,180 by the government into getting so that I can fly on an airplane 1689 01:06:01,180 --> 01:06:02,740 without my passport. 1690 01:06:02,740 --> 01:06:05,980 And I-- oh, and then she was like, do you have your other ID? 1691 01:06:05,980 --> 01:06:08,460 I was like, what do you mean my other ID? 1692 01:06:08,460 --> 01:06:11,940 Like my passport to buy a bottle of wine? 1693 01:06:11,940 --> 01:06:12,860 And it was-- 1694 01:06:12,860 --> 01:06:13,780 First certificate. 1695 01:06:13,780 --> 01:06:14,860 Did she scan it? 1696 01:06:14,860 --> 01:06:16,980 What happened when she scanned it again? 1697 01:06:16,980 --> 01:06:18,900 It made the sound like it was fake. 1698 01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:24,580 And I mean, she believed me that I was 36 years old. 1699 01:06:24,580 --> 01:06:26,860 But she did like a little bit. 1700 01:06:26,860 --> 01:06:29,060 She was like, you're lucky I believe you otherwise. 1701 01:06:29,060 --> 01:06:30,300 And I have to confiscate this. 1702 01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:33,540 And I was like, what would I do if on my way-- 1703 01:06:33,540 --> 01:06:37,820 The start of a seven hour drive, you confiscate 1704 01:06:37,820 --> 01:06:41,220 my actual driver's license in a state that I don't live in. 1705 01:06:41,220 --> 01:06:42,580 That would have been so pissed. 1706 01:06:42,580 --> 01:06:46,300 Yeah, I would want to call and be like, why was I trying? 1707 01:06:46,300 --> 01:06:48,140 Why would this not work in New York? 1708 01:06:48,140 --> 01:06:49,180 Like, what? 1709 01:06:49,180 --> 01:06:49,660 I don't know. 1710 01:06:49,660 --> 01:06:51,060 Somebody's got to know that that's happening. 1711 01:06:51,060 --> 01:06:52,420 Because that's a really fucked up. 1712 01:06:52,420 --> 01:06:54,420 I'm going to make some calls. 1713 01:06:54,420 --> 01:06:55,420 OK, good, good, good. 1714 01:06:55,420 --> 01:06:58,780 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1715 01:06:58,780 --> 01:07:08,780 All right, are you guys ready for five star good reviews? 1716 01:07:08,780 --> 01:07:09,980 If you can find, Annie. 1717 01:07:09,980 --> 01:07:11,460 [LAUGHTER] 1718 01:07:11,460 --> 01:07:12,460 Oh. 1719 01:07:12,460 --> 01:07:14,540 [LAUGHTER] 1720 01:07:14,540 --> 01:07:15,660 Claire, did you grab any? 1721 01:07:15,660 --> 01:07:16,260 I'm not. 1722 01:07:16,260 --> 01:07:17,260 We're going to go-- 1723 01:07:17,260 --> 01:07:18,580 OK, I guess five five. 1724 01:07:18,580 --> 01:07:19,580 I've got one. 1725 01:07:19,580 --> 01:07:20,420 I found one. 1726 01:07:20,420 --> 01:07:23,580 And it says the entire review has been hidden because of spoilers. 1727 01:07:23,580 --> 01:07:24,100 This one? 1728 01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:24,500 OK. 1729 01:07:24,500 --> 01:07:25,000 So I'm going to-- 1730 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,940 People are coward. 1731 01:07:26,940 --> 01:07:28,700 I'm going to press show full review. 1732 01:07:28,700 --> 01:07:33,780 And it says, I cannot tell a lie, George Washington. 1733 01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:35,540 I just don't know how to get it. 1734 01:07:35,540 --> 01:07:36,540 OK. 1735 01:07:36,540 --> 01:07:38,620 I don't get it. 1736 01:07:38,620 --> 01:07:40,900 I don't know why that happens. 1737 01:07:40,900 --> 01:07:41,780 That's great. 1738 01:07:41,780 --> 01:07:43,100 I don't get it, but I don't hate it. 1739 01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:44,180 I don't like it, actually. 1740 01:07:44,180 --> 01:07:44,700 I don't get it. 1741 01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:45,340 It was interesting. 1742 01:07:45,340 --> 01:07:48,540 It was an interesting-- 1743 01:07:48,540 --> 01:07:50,820 Just to say we have a lot of people praising it. 1744 01:07:50,820 --> 01:07:54,460 And so it's nice to get a crazy watch on someone who's crazy. 1745 01:07:54,460 --> 01:07:55,740 Yeah. 1746 01:07:55,740 --> 01:07:57,020 Yeah. 1747 01:07:57,020 --> 01:08:01,060 Somebody said, the New York Times has two aflop Roths. 1748 01:08:01,060 --> 01:08:03,420 All right, P. Novels on their list of 100 best novels 1749 01:08:03,420 --> 01:08:05,140 of the 21st century. 1750 01:08:05,140 --> 01:08:07,220 The human stain in the plot against America. 1751 01:08:07,220 --> 01:08:09,860 Many Roth fans do not think this is one of his top books, 1752 01:08:09,860 --> 01:08:12,140 but I do. 1753 01:08:12,140 --> 01:08:15,460 It remains very relevant to the rise of fascism in the US 1754 01:08:15,460 --> 01:08:16,980 and everywhere else. 1755 01:08:16,980 --> 01:08:19,180 And then he basically just talks about the book for a while. 1756 01:08:19,180 --> 01:08:22,620 And the reason to go into that. 1757 01:08:22,620 --> 01:08:24,900 And then he recommends some other things. 1758 01:08:24,900 --> 01:08:27,060 And then it says, it really can't happen here, can it? 1759 01:08:27,060 --> 01:08:31,300 Who are the crazies rising to or already in power? 1760 01:08:31,300 --> 01:08:33,460 OK, I don't even understand that last question. 1761 01:08:33,460 --> 01:08:36,580 Sort of get what he's generally going for, 1762 01:08:36,580 --> 01:08:38,380 but the wording sort of-- 1763 01:08:38,380 --> 01:08:39,180 Yeah. 1764 01:08:39,180 --> 01:08:41,660 That's a lot of people. 1765 01:08:41,660 --> 01:08:42,340 Five stars. 1766 01:08:42,340 --> 01:08:42,780 Oops. 1767 01:08:42,780 --> 01:08:44,980 I never wrote a review of this work. 1768 01:08:44,980 --> 01:08:47,140 This book, I must have read it before being 1769 01:08:47,140 --> 01:08:49,180 a goodreads member. 1770 01:08:49,180 --> 01:08:51,420 A loss that Roth has retired from writing, 1771 01:08:51,420 --> 01:08:54,660 but I can understand let the guy relax. 1772 01:08:54,660 --> 01:08:56,860 She wrote this in 2023 and he was dead. 1773 01:08:56,860 --> 01:08:59,100 We can't believe it. 1774 01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:03,100 I'm laughing at this because what's the scenario 1775 01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:05,100 that led this person to writing this review? 1776 01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:08,860 Were they like, I wonder what exactly I said in my review 1777 01:09:08,860 --> 01:09:09,180 of it? 1778 01:09:09,180 --> 01:09:10,140 Let me look it up. 1779 01:09:10,140 --> 01:09:10,660 Wow. 1780 01:09:10,660 --> 01:09:13,540 I mean, there's one more sentence. 1781 01:09:13,540 --> 01:09:16,860 And she just says, at least Walter says, 1782 01:09:16,860 --> 01:09:18,620 his contribution to contemporary fiction 1783 01:09:18,620 --> 01:09:20,420 has been well beyond amazing. 1784 01:09:20,420 --> 01:09:21,180 And that's it. 1785 01:09:21,180 --> 01:09:25,260 So it wasn't unnecessary review, I would say. 1786 01:09:25,260 --> 01:09:25,900 I love it. 1787 01:09:25,900 --> 01:09:26,700 Didn't need it. 1788 01:09:26,700 --> 01:09:27,220 Didn't need it. 1789 01:09:27,220 --> 01:09:27,700 We love it. 1790 01:09:27,700 --> 01:09:28,220 All right. 1791 01:09:28,220 --> 01:09:29,220 I think it's going to be a lot of time. 1792 01:09:29,220 --> 01:09:30,220 I think it's going to be a lot of time. 1793 01:09:30,220 --> 01:09:31,220 All right. 1794 01:09:31,220 --> 01:09:40,100 So it's like when the kids were little in this book, probably, 1795 01:09:40,100 --> 01:09:41,860 was a little rule they probably had. 1796 01:09:41,860 --> 01:09:43,100 I don't know. 1797 01:09:43,100 --> 01:09:44,220 That could be. 1798 01:09:44,220 --> 01:09:46,380 How about this? 1799 01:09:46,380 --> 01:09:47,780 One more question, read the book. 1800 01:09:47,780 --> 01:09:50,780 Did the mother and father remind anybody of their own mother 1801 01:09:50,780 --> 01:09:51,620 and father? 1802 01:09:51,620 --> 01:09:53,060 No. 1803 01:09:53,060 --> 01:09:53,900 Yeah, me neither. 1804 01:09:53,900 --> 01:09:55,780 No. 1805 01:09:55,780 --> 01:09:56,780 No. 1806 01:09:56,780 --> 01:09:57,900 They were. 1807 01:09:57,900 --> 01:10:00,700 That was wondering if that's what turned us all into good news. 1808 01:10:00,700 --> 01:10:02,180 You're doing too much to tell me stuff. 1809 01:10:02,180 --> 01:10:04,620 Because I was like, I don't know. 1810 01:10:04,620 --> 01:10:07,460 It just seemed like, wow, these are such good parents 1811 01:10:07,460 --> 01:10:08,700 trying to do the right thing. 1812 01:10:08,700 --> 01:10:09,660 I don't really-- 1813 01:10:09,660 --> 01:10:12,060 I love my parents, but I don't really-- 1814 01:10:12,060 --> 01:10:15,020 You know, sort of turned into a huge insult 1815 01:10:15,020 --> 01:10:16,460 on the back end of that comment. 1816 01:10:16,460 --> 01:10:18,940 So I will say, I love my parents. 1817 01:10:18,940 --> 01:10:21,780 I love my mom very much. 1818 01:10:21,780 --> 01:10:22,660 They're great parents. 1819 01:10:22,660 --> 01:10:26,060 They did remind me of the parents in this book. 1820 01:10:26,060 --> 01:10:27,060 They did not-- 1821 01:10:27,060 --> 01:10:28,100 For many various-- 1822 01:10:28,100 --> 01:10:29,100 Oh, they did not. 1823 01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:30,220 --different kinds of reasons. 1824 01:10:30,220 --> 01:10:35,660 I just thought the dad was so righteous and trying 1825 01:10:35,660 --> 01:10:40,020 to do the right thing and making decisions that maybe were-- 1826 01:10:40,020 --> 01:10:44,620 like he was always trying to be morally correct in a way 1827 01:10:44,620 --> 01:10:48,420 that I was like, I don't recognize. 1828 01:10:48,420 --> 01:10:50,220 The only thing I kind of recognized 1829 01:10:50,220 --> 01:10:53,420 was when the dad got really loud at the dinner 1830 01:10:53,420 --> 01:10:56,620 at one of the Washington cafeteria's. 1831 01:10:56,620 --> 01:10:57,980 And the mom was like, please. 1832 01:10:57,980 --> 01:10:59,620 Oh, yeah, yeah, that was nice. 1833 01:10:59,620 --> 01:11:00,380 Just let it go. 1834 01:11:00,380 --> 01:11:02,300 And he was like, no. 1835 01:11:02,300 --> 01:11:05,460 I was like, that's my two second dad's hair. 1836 01:11:05,460 --> 01:11:08,860 I was like, maybe a little. 1837 01:11:08,860 --> 01:11:12,380 That was a good dad moment. 1838 01:11:12,380 --> 01:11:15,740 That was something that was-- I found very refreshing 1839 01:11:15,740 --> 01:11:20,460 after all of the books that we read, where it's like the husband 1840 01:11:20,460 --> 01:11:23,260 is nice and cares about the mom. 1841 01:11:23,260 --> 01:11:26,180 He's like, decent to the woman. 1842 01:11:26,180 --> 01:11:27,860 Oh, there's a cheating subplot. 1843 01:11:27,860 --> 01:11:28,660 This is so weird. 1844 01:11:28,660 --> 01:11:29,780 Where was the hot red-- 1845 01:11:29,780 --> 01:11:31,180 See, he's a murderer. 1846 01:11:31,180 --> 01:11:32,500 Is he a murderer? 1847 01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:34,420 Yeah, it's confusing. 1848 01:11:34,420 --> 01:11:35,700 It's because we usually-- 1849 01:11:35,700 --> 01:11:38,460 It's hard to follow. 1850 01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:39,660 Somebody who's just good. 1851 01:11:39,660 --> 01:11:40,620 My focus was on-- 1852 01:11:40,620 --> 01:11:42,620 It's all over the place. 1853 01:11:42,620 --> 01:11:45,540 [LAUGHTER] 1854 01:11:45,540 --> 01:11:49,100 All right, we have-- all right, I guess it's time for our hate 1855 01:11:49,100 --> 01:11:49,460 rates. 1856 01:11:49,460 --> 01:11:51,700 OK. 1857 01:11:51,700 --> 01:11:53,660 OK, I'll start. 1858 01:11:53,660 --> 01:11:58,060 I'm going to give it a 4.5 out of 5. 1859 01:11:58,060 --> 01:12:00,260 I probably would have given it a 5 out of 5 when I first 1860 01:12:00,260 --> 01:12:01,580 read it in 2006. 1861 01:12:01,580 --> 01:12:04,300 But time has passed. 1862 01:12:04,300 --> 01:12:05,940 And like I said, it doesn't hit the same. 1863 01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:10,300 But it's long, but I thought I was still very, very good 1864 01:12:10,300 --> 01:12:14,780 for a mean book, club book, for a 0.5 out of 5. 1865 01:12:14,780 --> 01:12:18,500 I'm going to go 3 out of 5. 1866 01:12:18,500 --> 01:12:21,740 I think I could even go lower, honestly. 1867 01:12:21,740 --> 01:12:28,060 As a book, I mean, it's worlds above any mean book, club book. 1868 01:12:28,060 --> 01:12:29,500 I accept, of course, the secret. 1869 01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:30,020 My god. 1870 01:12:30,020 --> 01:12:31,020 What is this? 1871 01:12:31,020 --> 01:12:31,700 What is it? 1872 01:12:31,700 --> 01:12:33,340 Why are you giving it 3 out of 5? 1873 01:12:33,340 --> 01:12:37,860 It's a little bit to our recommender. 1874 01:12:37,860 --> 01:12:38,700 OK. 1875 01:12:38,700 --> 01:12:42,540 You know, I'm sticking it to you, Miles. 1876 01:12:42,540 --> 01:12:46,940 This book is too good for us to have read, I think. 1877 01:12:46,940 --> 01:12:50,140 And I think it was very well written. 1878 01:12:50,140 --> 01:12:51,140 But it wasn't for me. 1879 01:12:51,140 --> 01:12:55,020 So it does lose points for just my personal rating. 1880 01:12:55,020 --> 01:12:56,140 It's not going to be that high. 1881 01:12:56,140 --> 01:13:00,020 I don't want my algorithm to start feeding me more things 1882 01:13:00,020 --> 01:13:02,900 like this. 1883 01:13:02,900 --> 01:13:04,060 I do not want that. 1884 01:13:04,060 --> 01:13:10,020 Also, there was one stray, weird scene in the book. 1885 01:13:10,020 --> 01:13:10,780 The Nash. 1886 01:13:10,780 --> 01:13:11,300 Yes. 1887 01:13:11,300 --> 01:13:13,620 I was going to say the National Geographic comment. 1888 01:13:13,620 --> 01:13:14,860 No. 1889 01:13:14,860 --> 01:13:16,060 No, no. 1890 01:13:16,060 --> 01:13:16,380 It was with-- 1891 01:13:16,380 --> 01:13:19,420 It was the Ann when he gets a little tiny little boy hard on. 1892 01:13:19,420 --> 01:13:21,140 He's hugging his aunt. 1893 01:13:21,140 --> 01:13:23,660 And he talks about his acorn penis feeling it. 1894 01:13:23,660 --> 01:13:26,660 Oh. 1895 01:13:26,660 --> 01:13:27,780 I didn't need that. 1896 01:13:27,780 --> 01:13:28,740 I don't care. 1897 01:13:28,740 --> 01:13:30,660 Also, I don't-- 1898 01:13:30,660 --> 01:13:35,260 then because everything was written in such a realistic way. 1899 01:13:35,260 --> 01:13:36,740 And I thought that that was done so well. 1900 01:13:36,740 --> 01:13:39,140 That I was like, oh my god. 1901 01:13:39,140 --> 01:13:42,540 Do little boys hugging their aunt, get erections. 1902 01:13:42,540 --> 01:13:44,420 And now, and I need to know that. 1903 01:13:44,420 --> 01:13:46,900 Or I know that because I have two little boys. 1904 01:13:46,900 --> 01:13:50,900 And I just needed to be told that-- 1905 01:13:50,900 --> 01:13:51,940 I just needed to be aware of-- 1906 01:13:51,940 --> 01:13:52,980 I took it upon him. 1907 01:13:52,980 --> 01:13:53,500 I took it upon him. 1908 01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:54,860 I took it on my expectation set. 1909 01:13:54,860 --> 01:13:56,260 I need my expectation set. 1910 01:13:56,260 --> 01:13:59,180 I didn't ever want that information. 1911 01:13:59,180 --> 01:14:00,580 And now-- 1912 01:14:00,580 --> 01:14:01,420 Whether it's true-- 1913 01:14:01,420 --> 01:14:03,820 You could have a little boy some day, Sabrina. 1914 01:14:03,820 --> 01:14:05,820 You're going to need to know about us a little later. 1915 01:14:05,820 --> 01:14:08,500 I don't-- 1916 01:14:08,500 --> 01:14:11,580 I don't. 1917 01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:12,340 I don't. 1918 01:14:12,340 --> 01:14:13,340 And I won't-- 1919 01:14:13,340 --> 01:14:15,100 Yeah, even think about it. 1920 01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:15,580 Also-- 1921 01:14:15,580 --> 01:14:16,340 All right, we'll see. 1922 01:14:16,340 --> 01:14:17,340 Also, you're-- 1923 01:14:17,340 --> 01:14:18,580 Like, this is-- 1924 01:14:18,580 --> 01:14:20,060 Oh my god. 1925 01:14:20,060 --> 01:14:20,820 My little boy is-- 1926 01:14:20,820 --> 01:14:21,940 Yeah, that was my-- 1927 01:14:21,940 --> 01:14:22,940 I mean, I'm a-- 1928 01:14:22,940 --> 01:14:23,940 --claught-- 1929 01:14:23,940 --> 01:14:24,940 --right child. 1930 01:14:24,940 --> 01:14:25,780 Oh my god. 1931 01:14:25,780 --> 01:14:26,740 Oh no. 1932 01:14:26,740 --> 01:14:27,620 Oh, you're right. 1933 01:14:27,620 --> 01:14:29,140 That would be the disappointing part. 1934 01:14:29,140 --> 01:14:31,580 It's everyone's worst nightmare, I know. 1935 01:14:31,580 --> 01:14:32,980 It was my side. 1936 01:14:32,980 --> 01:14:33,980 It's like-- 1937 01:14:33,980 --> 01:14:34,980 Oh, not your uncle. 1938 01:14:34,980 --> 01:14:35,980 Your-- 1939 01:14:35,980 --> 01:14:37,980 Yeah. 1940 01:14:37,980 --> 01:14:38,780 Oh god. 1941 01:14:38,780 --> 01:14:41,300 So that's where it lost points for me. 1942 01:14:41,300 --> 01:14:42,300 And-- 1943 01:14:42,300 --> 01:14:42,300 Sure. 1944 01:14:42,300 --> 01:14:43,140 Sure. 1945 01:14:43,140 --> 01:14:43,620 OK. 1946 01:14:43,620 --> 01:14:44,140 Yeah. 1947 01:14:44,140 --> 01:14:45,940 And it just had no business being here. 1948 01:14:45,940 --> 01:14:50,340 Who does it think it is being on Meenball Club? 1949 01:14:50,340 --> 01:14:54,340 I'm going to say that Claire should go next. 1950 01:14:54,340 --> 01:14:57,100 [LAUGHTER] 1951 01:14:57,100 --> 01:14:57,620 All right. 1952 01:14:57,620 --> 01:14:58,220 Interesting. 1953 01:14:58,220 --> 01:15:02,180 I think I'm going to do a 3 1/2 out of 5. 1954 01:15:02,180 --> 01:15:07,940 It was boring to me. 1955 01:15:07,940 --> 01:15:10,860 I think that some of the details, like, 1956 01:15:10,860 --> 01:15:13,020 are you kidding me, stamp collection? 1957 01:15:13,020 --> 01:15:15,860 Can we pick something like slightly more interesting? 1958 01:15:15,860 --> 01:15:18,260 Like, I feel like baseball cards would 1959 01:15:18,260 --> 01:15:19,820 be a little bit more interesting. 1960 01:15:19,820 --> 01:15:21,060 I feel like-- 1961 01:15:21,060 --> 01:15:22,060 For you. 1962 01:15:22,060 --> 01:15:23,300 For any-- 1963 01:15:23,300 --> 01:15:23,980 --stamps. 1964 01:15:23,980 --> 01:15:25,500 Wait, Claire, you're going to slowly 1965 01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:28,140 talk about a tiny picture. 1966 01:15:28,140 --> 01:15:30,220 Describe a tiny picture to me. 1967 01:15:30,220 --> 01:15:32,380 When they did sightseeing in DC, 1968 01:15:32,380 --> 01:15:34,660 it's like, well, what could be more boring than sightseeing 1969 01:15:34,660 --> 01:15:37,340 in DC is having someone recount it, 1970 01:15:37,340 --> 01:15:38,340 mothering like-- 1971 01:15:38,340 --> 01:15:42,060 [LAUGHTER] 1972 01:15:42,060 --> 01:15:44,940 So I don't feel like you did himself any favors 1973 01:15:44,940 --> 01:15:46,780 with the details that could have been slightly more 1974 01:15:46,780 --> 01:15:49,020 interesting. 1975 01:15:49,020 --> 01:15:55,820 It was boring, and it was long, but it was a real block. 1976 01:15:55,820 --> 01:15:57,100 So it gets points for that. 1977 01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:57,300 Yeah. 1978 01:15:57,300 --> 01:15:58,820 I can't see points for that. 1979 01:15:58,820 --> 01:15:59,860 All right, I got you. 1980 01:15:59,860 --> 01:16:00,820 Yeah. 1981 01:16:00,820 --> 01:16:05,300 I think 3.5 sounds right. 1982 01:16:05,300 --> 01:16:08,300 If I weren't already reading it for me in book club 1983 01:16:08,300 --> 01:16:10,820 and kind of predisposed to already sort of be mad, 1984 01:16:10,820 --> 01:16:15,380 that I'm reading it, I think it could have scored higher. 1985 01:16:15,380 --> 01:16:20,220 This is a book that, honestly, really deserves a long, leisurely 1986 01:16:20,220 --> 01:16:21,860 listen. 1987 01:16:21,860 --> 01:16:22,860 That you're just kind of-- 1988 01:16:22,860 --> 01:16:24,780 I think this book has some moments 1989 01:16:24,780 --> 01:16:27,780 that you could really sit in and let it impact you, 1990 01:16:27,780 --> 01:16:33,540 but I wasn't going to allow for that. 1991 01:16:33,540 --> 01:16:39,300 And so that hurt the book, and that is Philip Roth's fault. 1992 01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:40,020 And-- 1993 01:16:40,020 --> 01:16:40,540 It's filly. 1994 01:16:40,540 --> 01:16:43,580 The stamps are what took it down, at least at point, 1995 01:16:43,580 --> 01:16:45,540 if not the entire 1.5 points. 1996 01:16:45,540 --> 01:16:46,620 Wow, I can't believe it. 1997 01:16:46,620 --> 01:16:49,260 Nobody is talking about how upset they were about the person. 1998 01:16:49,260 --> 01:16:51,780 [LAUGHTER] 1999 01:16:51,780 --> 01:16:53,020 I do want to say-- 2000 01:16:53,020 --> 01:16:54,420 I want to circle back. 2001 01:16:54,420 --> 01:16:57,020 A way from Burton again and not ever 2002 01:16:57,020 --> 01:16:59,900 talk about the Burton thing again. 2003 01:16:59,900 --> 01:17:05,340 And I do want to circle back to Miles and say, 2004 01:17:05,340 --> 01:17:10,900 I do appreciate the recommend because I think this was 2005 01:17:10,900 --> 01:17:11,820 a really different book. 2006 01:17:11,820 --> 01:17:14,820 I think it adds a lot to the season. 2007 01:17:14,820 --> 01:17:17,980 I think we've got to have a good one in every now and again. 2008 01:17:17,980 --> 01:17:19,060 And-- 2009 01:17:19,060 --> 01:17:19,620 Palette Cleanser. 2010 01:17:19,620 --> 01:17:20,460 Palette Cleanser. 2011 01:17:20,460 --> 01:17:21,060 And you know what? 2012 01:17:21,060 --> 01:17:24,380 I actually think it did kind of give us a lot to discuss. 2013 01:17:24,380 --> 01:17:26,500 Such as whether this was historical fiction 2014 01:17:26,500 --> 01:17:30,740 or an alternate reality fiction. 2015 01:17:30,740 --> 01:17:31,220 OK. 2016 01:17:31,220 --> 01:17:33,940 And what did you determine? 2017 01:17:33,940 --> 01:17:36,420 We determined that this is an alternate reality fiction, 2018 01:17:36,420 --> 01:17:40,580 as opposed to the Lindbergh, which is a historical fiction. 2019 01:17:40,580 --> 01:17:44,100 I think we determined there both historical fiction 2020 01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:46,780 and just that also the plot against America 2021 01:17:46,780 --> 01:17:49,140 as a subgenre of historical fiction. 2022 01:17:49,140 --> 01:17:49,900 It's an alternate-- 2023 01:17:49,900 --> 01:17:53,500 So like you can edit that out and just leave it on the-- 2024 01:17:53,500 --> 01:17:55,740 what I say and like it sounds like a mic. 2025 01:17:55,740 --> 01:17:56,860 That's for good cause. 2026 01:17:56,860 --> 01:17:57,860 It's not going to fit. 2027 01:17:57,860 --> 01:17:58,620 It's not going to fit. 2028 01:17:58,620 --> 01:18:00,300 It's not going to match. 2029 01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:02,220 And Blake, I feel like that was a joke at it. 2030 01:18:02,220 --> 01:18:03,060 And you can keep-- 2031 01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:06,220 [LAUGHTER] 2032 01:18:06,220 --> 01:18:10,500 All right guys, I guess it's time for Little Fucker of the Cast. 2033 01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:11,460 All right, I'll go first. 2034 01:18:11,460 --> 01:18:12,460 It's John and I. 2035 01:18:12,460 --> 01:18:16,060 [LAUGHTER] 2036 01:18:16,060 --> 01:18:21,100 John trying to bring in this other book, 2037 01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:22,540 talking about it for a while. 2038 01:18:22,540 --> 01:18:23,500 [LAUGHTER] 2039 01:18:23,500 --> 01:18:26,140 Just saying she doesn't like historical fiction, 2040 01:18:26,140 --> 01:18:29,100 which clearly she gets off on it when it's about a little baby 2041 01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:30,700 murdered. 2042 01:18:30,700 --> 01:18:31,540 So John-- 2043 01:18:31,540 --> 01:18:34,340 OK, obviously my name is Sarah. 2044 01:18:34,340 --> 01:18:37,900 I had so many details from the book correct. 2045 01:18:37,900 --> 01:18:40,300 And then instead of just listening to the cast 2046 01:18:40,300 --> 01:18:44,100 and talking like a person, she was like secretly the entire time 2047 01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:46,460 trying to catch me on something I got wrong. 2048 01:18:46,460 --> 01:18:48,340 So she could jump in with like, oh by the way, 2049 01:18:48,340 --> 01:18:50,380 did you say the baby was found on the estate? 2050 01:18:50,380 --> 01:18:53,500 Actually, it sounds like he was found in a neighboring town 2051 01:18:53,500 --> 01:18:55,100 ship. 2052 01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:57,500 So I didn't care for that. 2053 01:18:57,500 --> 01:18:59,420 I'll care for the little fact check. 2054 01:18:59,420 --> 01:19:01,660 I especially didn't care that she was right. 2055 01:19:01,660 --> 01:19:04,500 That made me even more angry as Sarah. 2056 01:19:04,500 --> 01:19:06,460 Yeah. 2057 01:19:06,460 --> 01:19:07,180 Did that happen? 2058 01:19:07,180 --> 01:19:08,980 Did you get that one at once? 2059 01:19:08,980 --> 01:19:10,060 I didn't-- look things up. 2060 01:19:10,060 --> 01:19:10,580 Where was it? 2061 01:19:10,580 --> 01:19:11,580 Just the one at the top. 2062 01:19:11,580 --> 01:19:13,620 I didn't look it up when it happened. 2063 01:19:13,620 --> 01:19:15,860 It just-- I was-- happened. 2064 01:19:15,860 --> 01:19:17,740 Information came across my eyes. 2065 01:19:17,740 --> 01:19:20,140 And I had to bring it up because it was different than what 2066 01:19:20,140 --> 01:19:21,060 was told to me. 2067 01:19:21,060 --> 01:19:24,220 I, too, I'm going to have to vote for Sarah. 2068 01:19:24,220 --> 01:19:26,820 And well, OK, here's what happened. 2069 01:19:26,820 --> 01:19:29,540 I was getting vulnerable. 2070 01:19:29,540 --> 01:19:33,500 I prefaced a statement with, look, I know this is going 2071 01:19:33,500 --> 01:19:35,980 to make me sound really dumb. 2072 01:19:35,980 --> 01:19:37,860 And Clara, the statement was basically 2073 01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:40,180 that I had no idea who Charles Lindbergh was. 2074 01:19:40,180 --> 01:19:41,980 That's just not information that was-- 2075 01:19:41,980 --> 01:19:45,340 I knew it was a person who was in history. 2076 01:19:45,340 --> 01:19:47,380 Could I have told you a single thing about the man? 2077 01:19:47,380 --> 01:19:48,380 No. 2078 01:19:48,380 --> 01:19:49,180 And-- 2079 01:19:49,180 --> 01:19:52,420 I revealed that information, but I prefaced it with like, 2080 01:19:52,420 --> 01:19:53,860 this is going to make me sound dumb. 2081 01:19:53,860 --> 01:20:00,740 And then Sarah was basically like, Jesus, you fucking idiot. 2082 01:20:00,740 --> 01:20:02,820 How could you not know? 2083 01:20:02,820 --> 01:20:07,780 And then she was like ashamed of me and embarrassed for me 2084 01:20:07,780 --> 01:20:09,020 all at once. 2085 01:20:09,020 --> 01:20:12,860 Yeah. 2086 01:20:12,860 --> 01:20:13,900 And then she-- 2087 01:20:13,900 --> 01:20:14,900 She was like-- 2088 01:20:14,900 --> 01:20:15,780 She was like, oh, this whole time. 2089 01:20:15,780 --> 01:20:16,500 She was like, she was like-- 2090 01:20:16,500 --> 01:20:18,100 She was like, she was like-- 2091 01:20:18,100 --> 01:20:20,620 Do you prefer history about XYZ? 2092 01:20:20,620 --> 01:20:24,620 And I was like, no, I just don't like history, Sarah. 2093 01:20:24,620 --> 01:20:27,180 Well, you said you knew who Amelia Earhart was, that's why. 2094 01:20:27,180 --> 01:20:30,060 Everyone knows who Amelia Earhart is. 2095 01:20:30,060 --> 01:20:32,100 OK, well, some people-- 2096 01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:32,980 All right, you know what? 2097 01:20:32,980 --> 01:20:33,980 Yeah, OK. 2098 01:20:33,980 --> 01:20:36,500 We can go. 2099 01:20:36,500 --> 01:20:43,300 I was late, but there's a lot of evidence against Sarah. 2100 01:20:43,300 --> 01:20:46,900 And she didn't really get into the PP question. 2101 01:20:46,900 --> 01:20:48,060 Yep, which is-- 2102 01:20:48,060 --> 01:20:48,820 Oh, yeah. 2103 01:20:48,820 --> 01:20:50,900 She's like a fun tangent. 2104 01:20:50,900 --> 01:20:54,500 She not only did it in a participant when she did participate. 2105 01:20:54,500 --> 01:20:57,940 She was very dismissive with her answer. 2106 01:20:57,940 --> 01:20:59,100 I don't know, my bad. 2107 01:20:59,100 --> 01:21:00,620 She's like-- 2108 01:21:00,620 --> 01:21:03,820 She's just felt like you're insulting the whole premise 2109 01:21:03,820 --> 01:21:07,420 of having a fun little PP tangent. 2110 01:21:07,420 --> 01:21:09,260 So I'm going to vote for Sarah. 2111 01:21:09,260 --> 01:21:09,940 All right, fine. 2112 01:21:09,940 --> 01:21:12,060 Maybe some of us just don't have an interesting place. 2113 01:21:12,060 --> 01:21:13,260 We've peed, apparently. 2114 01:21:13,260 --> 01:21:14,420 What are you insane saying that? 2115 01:21:14,420 --> 01:21:15,820 Is it one of them, too? 2116 01:21:16,820 --> 01:21:19,420 Look, I was trying to get back to the book. 2117 01:21:19,420 --> 01:21:20,220 All right, fine. 2118 01:21:20,220 --> 01:21:21,780 A little faster of the cast, OK? 2119 01:21:21,780 --> 01:21:22,780 Oh, boy. 2120 01:21:22,780 --> 01:21:27,340 The season is looking good for old J-bone. 2121 01:21:27,340 --> 01:21:31,700 This is maybe the first one, but you still got a vote, OK, Johnna? 2122 01:21:31,700 --> 01:21:33,380 You didn't get it way on Skate. 2123 01:21:33,380 --> 01:21:34,380 Get a-- 2124 01:21:34,380 --> 01:21:35,380 All right, and get three. 2125 01:21:35,380 --> 01:21:36,140 All right. 2126 01:21:36,140 --> 01:21:38,180 Well, and the prettiest princess-- 2127 01:21:38,180 --> 01:21:39,380 I'm not fair. 2128 01:21:39,380 --> 01:21:40,380 She's a-- 2129 01:21:40,380 --> 01:21:41,380 Oh, this is the last one I've seen. 2130 01:21:41,380 --> 01:21:43,380 She's an amazing Sabrina. 2131 01:21:43,380 --> 01:21:45,100 I think it should be me today. 2132 01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:46,020 I'm not one of them. 2133 01:21:46,020 --> 01:21:48,100 Because she ousted herself from it. 2134 01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:49,100 This isn't safe. 2135 01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:53,420 And I've long housed yourself for a minute, and then say it's better. 2136 01:21:53,420 --> 01:21:55,500 And this is also just-- 2137 01:21:55,500 --> 01:21:56,780 It's so you can't really come in. 2138 01:21:56,780 --> 01:21:58,540 I'm saying you don't want to get it. 2139 01:21:58,540 --> 01:21:59,700 So you can't-- 2140 01:21:59,700 --> 01:22:01,300 No, nobody gets it. 2141 01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:02,300 Nobody gets it. 2142 01:22:02,300 --> 01:22:03,300 Nobody gets it. 2143 01:22:03,300 --> 01:22:05,140 Sabrina, nobody wanted it. 2144 01:22:05,140 --> 01:22:06,700 The princess of the hug. 2145 01:22:06,700 --> 01:22:07,700 Yes. 2146 01:22:07,700 --> 01:22:10,020 We do this in Southern Judgeable By its cover. 2147 01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:11,420 It's unbelievable. 2148 01:22:11,420 --> 01:22:12,140 It's ridiculous. 2149 01:22:12,140 --> 01:22:13,020 We have time for this. 2150 01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:15,300 We could do Judgeable By its cover. 2151 01:22:15,300 --> 01:22:17,300 This had a swastika on it. 2152 01:22:17,300 --> 01:22:17,820 Yeah. 2153 01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:20,020 We made it feel like it was a different book. 2154 01:22:20,020 --> 01:22:21,060 That's for sure. 2155 01:22:21,060 --> 01:22:25,020 It made it feel like it was scarier. 2156 01:22:25,020 --> 01:22:25,520 Yeah. 2157 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:26,020 Still scarier. 2158 01:22:26,020 --> 01:22:26,620 I guess it was scarier. 2159 01:22:26,620 --> 01:22:27,420 I do need a different way. 2160 01:22:27,420 --> 01:22:28,420 I'm going to get it in a different way. 2161 01:22:28,420 --> 01:22:28,900 In a different way. 2162 01:22:28,900 --> 01:22:29,940 Yeah. 2163 01:22:29,940 --> 01:22:30,740 Yeah. 2164 01:22:30,740 --> 01:22:34,620 Little more slow burn. 2165 01:22:34,620 --> 01:22:35,020 OK. 2166 01:22:35,020 --> 01:22:36,020 I'll scarier a step off. 2167 01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:37,220 Wrap that line. 2168 01:22:37,220 --> 01:22:37,740 Yeah. 2169 01:22:37,740 --> 01:22:38,660 Oh, perhaps. 2170 01:22:38,660 --> 01:22:39,340 Yes, you're right. 2171 01:22:39,340 --> 01:22:42,180 So I'll be being burned alive. 2172 01:22:42,180 --> 01:22:42,680 All right. 2173 01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:47,020 So please, Patreon, become a patron. 2174 01:22:47,020 --> 01:22:49,100 If you have any suggestions, please email us. 2175 01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:52,620 Please check out us on all of our socials. 2176 01:22:52,620 --> 01:22:59,020 And next week-- what the fuck are we reading next week, guys? 2177 01:22:59,020 --> 01:23:02,020 OK. 2178 01:23:02,020 --> 01:23:04,260 And next week, what are we reading? 2179 01:23:04,260 --> 01:23:05,180 Who? 2180 01:23:05,180 --> 01:23:05,860 Who? 2181 01:23:05,860 --> 01:23:06,180 My. 2182 01:23:06,180 --> 01:23:06,680 Who? 2183 01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:07,180 My. 2184 01:23:07,180 --> 01:23:07,680 Who? 2185 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:08,180 My. 2186 01:23:08,180 --> 01:23:09,180 Who? 2187 01:23:09,180 --> 01:23:09,680 My. 2188 01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:10,180 My. 2189 01:23:10,180 --> 01:23:11,860 Spencer Johnson. 2190 01:23:11,860 --> 01:23:15,380 I feel like I've seen it so slow that you could have gotten 2191 01:23:15,380 --> 01:23:17,420 on my pattern. 2192 01:23:17,420 --> 01:23:20,780 [LAUGHTER] 2193 01:23:20,780 --> 01:23:21,280 It was true. 2194 01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,020 So my brain doesn't work like that. 2195 01:23:24,020 --> 01:23:24,860 Too painful. 2196 01:23:24,860 --> 01:23:25,340 It was. 2197 01:23:25,340 --> 01:23:25,980 It was like-- 2198 01:23:25,980 --> 01:23:29,820 And she was like, my Spencer Johnson. 2199 01:23:29,820 --> 01:23:31,380 I wanted to move on from it. 2200 01:23:31,380 --> 01:23:33,700 I didn't want to keep talking about the book. 2201 01:23:33,700 --> 01:23:34,460 OK. 2202 01:23:34,460 --> 01:23:38,700 We have to talk about it so much next episode. 2203 01:23:38,700 --> 01:23:39,180 All right. 2204 01:23:39,180 --> 01:23:40,100 We're so excited. 2205 01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:41,500 So thank you for joining us. 2206 01:23:41,500 --> 01:23:42,000 What? 2207 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,980 So thank you for joining us. 2208 01:23:43,980 --> 01:23:44,500 Who's so-- 2209 01:23:44,500 --> 01:23:46,500 What is so thank you for joining us? 2210 01:23:46,500 --> 01:23:47,260 So good. 2211 01:23:47,260 --> 01:23:48,500 Bye, show. 2212 01:23:48,500 --> 01:23:50,060 So Patreon. 2213 01:23:50,060 --> 01:23:52,100 So socials. 2214 01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:53,700 So fun. 2215 01:23:53,700 --> 01:23:54,300 All right. 2216 01:23:54,300 --> 01:23:55,300 All right. 2217 01:23:55,300 --> 01:23:56,580 Guys, let's get the fuck out of here. 2218 01:23:56,580 --> 01:23:57,100 Bye, guys. 2219 01:23:57,100 --> 01:23:58,100 Bye. 2220 01:23:58,100 --> 01:23:59,100 Bye. 2221 01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:02,100 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2222 01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:05,100 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2223 01:24:05,100 --> 01:24:08,100 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2224 01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:11,100 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2225 01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:14,100 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2226 01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:17,100 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2227 01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:20,100 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2228 01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:30,100 [MUSIC]