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The audacity.

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Oh I'm sorry, did I scare you?

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Yeah, my own house.

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So it's kind of like one of those ones like which one of you is the ghost, you know?

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I'm him.

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I feel confident.

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I don't need to phone a friend.

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Final answer.

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You're fluffer.

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Hi, Caitlyn, you mother fluffer.

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Hi Cassie.

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Hi creepy people.

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Hello.

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I can see Caitlyn's whole face with both my eyes.

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It's insane.

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Yeah, if you're not watching the video, we got new low profile mic stands.

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Yes.

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And we can see each other.

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I'm so excited.

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So excited.

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I've never been more excited actually.

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I was so excited.

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Well, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat about true crime, the paranormal and

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all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest.

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We're the PNW, if you're nasty.

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And we know y'all.

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So nasty.

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So nasty.

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We also do a tarot reading in every episode to give a little bit of deeper insight into our

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topic and have a little witchy fun.

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So stick around if you want to have a little witchy fun with us.

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Did we talk about the board?

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We talk about that.

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I don't know if we officially talked about the roadcaster pro two.

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I can't remembe, but we got.

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Sponsor us.

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Or whatever, you know, like no big deal.

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Give us the new camera one for free.

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That would be awesome.

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That would be amazing.

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So we were having issues recording with, you know, fancy mics recording into garage band,

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you know, free is great.

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Get ready to do it while you can.

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But it gets frustrating after a while when things aren't going right.

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So we needed one to just make our brains more sane.

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And she pretty.

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She is party.

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She's so party.

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Well, that's all I had.

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You're trying to stall.

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No, I'm just kind of like, I'm just still like a little bit like glamored by our, I am

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Our new stuff.

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I've just like settled in though.

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I just sat down and I'm like, yeah, this is light.

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This is how life should be.

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I'm happy as a clam over here.

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It's good timing.

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It's good timing.

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You know what else is good timing?

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Me getting rid of my severe fucking cystic acne before my whole face is like shown to

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That's why I've been hiding behind my mics and my pop filters.

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But now, you know, I have a couple of you probably see them, but I don't think so.

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Overall, I look better.

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If anyone's struggling with cystic acne, check your medications.

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Really common side effect.

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Really common side effect for anti-depressants, certain anti-depressant medications.

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So real bummer.

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Yeah, you know, but you know, having acne on your face makes you even more depressed

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I would argue.

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That's sort of like if you, there's other anti-depressant or I mean, they're used for a lot of

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other applications, but there's, it's the class of medications called SSRIs where it

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Essentially like it'll lower your libido, but it also, and this is crazy.

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And it's like, okay, so I'm not depressed, but I'm like, how does that make sense?

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Like that's a terrible side effect.

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Sometimes I like to start things off with dad jokes and this is in fact one of those times.

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This is actual dad joke material from an actual dad, my dad.

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Oh boy.

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Who taught me all I know about dad jokes.

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So my dad was telling me about some spooky things that happened to him and he like, he's

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in the woods a lot.

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He lives around the woods.

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So I asked him if he has ever seen a not dear.

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with Cristina, I think.

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Sounds familiar, but it's just like a deer that there's just like something off about it.

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That's kind of what I remembered.

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Like it like moves weird.

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It'll like stand and walk on two legs or it'll like have like a face that kind of looks

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It's just like not right.

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It's exactly what it sounds like.

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It's like a deer, but it's like not.

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Every day, every single day, when I go out into the woods and there's not a deer there.

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I fucking walked straight into that dad joke.

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I did that to my own self, but that was gold.

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Thank you, dad.

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Oh, man.

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I'm actually kind of annoyed that I didn't really see that coming.

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I didn't let the time either.

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I know.

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I was like, wait a minute.

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You know what those are.

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You've seen a not deer.

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Like you have to tell me.

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That was good.

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Man, props to you, dad.

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Thanks, dad.

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So I thought that was kind of, you know, fall related and fun to start with before I scare

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the crap out of you.

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I feel like I'm building up a tolerance though.

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I hope so.

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I mean, I have to be because we just did the ghost tour and that is true.

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You didn't really freak out.

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I mean, I did part of the time that you weren't really aware of.

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I don't know that Chris really caught it on any of our recording stuff, but I, because I intentionally

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I was just saying it to him because I was like, oh my gosh, I don't want to be like every

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time something happens, be like, oh, you know, like it's too much.

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No, it's not.

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It's never enough.

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I don't know that I just was like, yeah, so it's funny that you should say that because I

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was seeing that and then you started talking about it like five minutes later.

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I don't want to give anything away.

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I mean, this comes out after that.

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So they'll have heard, but we haven't reported about it yet with us.

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I kind of know what you mean, but I haven't heard the whole story yet.

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So yeah, I'm being intentionally big.

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But you all, you all know by then.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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So before we officially start the story, I used another podcast called Strange for Milliers

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for most of my research because this is mainly where these stories that I'm focusing on are.

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They're collecting all of these stories and working on speculations about it and even riding

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a book.

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Ooh.

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And so I went through and I listened to, there's probably ten episodes.

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With like multiple different stories.

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I went through and listened to all of them and like took notes about it and they are so

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There's so much detailing these stories.

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Like I'm not even touching like the tip of the iceberg here.

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Well, I'm touching the tip of the iceberg, but I'm not going below the surface.

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Yeah, just the tip.

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So please go over there to Strange Familiars.

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You can just in their little search bar.

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It's a little search.

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Oh, I almost told you what it was.

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Search what this topic is.

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And then find all of the stories.

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They're so interesting.

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Oh my gosh.

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I had fun listening to hours and hours of these stories.

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It's okay.

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I go hard on my research, you guys.

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Because there's not really a lot written about it.

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There's like a couple other podcasts I see that did it.

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I didn't really listen to those because I was like, well, I'm going to go through like the

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main source and figure all this out for myself.

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But there's like not a lot of articles.

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There's some Reddit stuff that I'll link to, but okay.

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That's about it.

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I know.

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So exciting.

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Everything's exciting today.

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You're really excited.

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You're just excited about being excited, even.

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I'm very excited all these days.

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Yeah.

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Well, I wanted to tell you that I was listening to a podcast for my research because I was

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using Spotify.

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Oh.

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It was acting so fucking weird.

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Like yeah.

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I was constantly listening to podcasts and stuff and it gets weird.

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Sometimes you know, there needs to be an update stuff glitches, but this was like, yeah.

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Consistently weird.

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Acting through the whole thing.

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So it was being like slow and I would go to click something and it like wouldn't click.

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It would click like 30 seconds later, but like not even where I pushed my finger.

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Oh, weird.

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So you know, when you're listening to stuff, you want to like rewind.

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Yeah.

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So I was just fast forward.

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So I was fighting with it the entire time.

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So it took me like probably 10 times longer than it should have.

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So I was fighting with the whole time.

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So I just thought that was interesting.

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It was updated.

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So I don't know.

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I had full 5G bars.

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Oh, yeah.

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I was going to say because the other issue that you have is like not having very good.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Now are you ready for the story?

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Maybe.

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Or kicking November off with a fall fashionista phantom.

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Ooh, Flannel Man.

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Now I see why you wanted me to have the flannel.

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Am I getting it?

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Okay.

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Listen, I meant to ask you this before.

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I was afraid.

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I didn't have any flannel in my closet, but I was afraid that if I put on something flannel,

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like I was like, she's like trying to trick me.

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It's going to be like somebody like a ghost that haunts people wearing flannel or something.

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So now that I know, well, I guess I don't know.

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I guess that's my question.

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Listen, I'm panicking.

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Okay.

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You don't know yet.

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Should I be wearing flannel or should I not?

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I mean, it's really up to you.

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I don't like that answer.

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If you want to take the chance and go put some flannel on, I know.

268
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I'm not a risk taker.

269
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It is flannel man.

270
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So it is about some entity wearing flannel.

271
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So it's not about someone who haunts people in flannel.

272
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If you need to go put some on.

273
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If I get chilly, then I'll go grab my little grandma shawl.

274
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Okay.

275
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Not blanky.

276
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But you are sufficiently dressed for fall, I think.

277
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You got the call color edge going on.

278
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So I think you're cool.

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First mentioned in a paranormal forum long ago in the depths of the interwebs,

280
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flannel man is seen all over the US and even in the UK.

281
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But in the US, he's seen from Minnesota to Ohio, from Florida to Kentucky and Texas.

282
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And yes, even right here in the go to flannel lovin’ nasty PNW. From California through Oregon

283
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up to Washington and over to Montana.

284
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...

285
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Look you guys.

286
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I know geography.

287
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Geography.

288
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I just named places up and over.

289
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Yeah, you're like, "Yeah, over there."

290
00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,320
So when I say Flannel Man, what do you think this guy looks like?

291
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A lumberjack.

292
00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,320
Exactly.

293
00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,320
It looks like a lumberjack.

294
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And of course I became obsessed as soon as I heard the word flannel man.

295
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I was like, "Who is this?

296
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Who is this man?

297
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I need to find him."

298
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She's in love.

299
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Unfortunately, I've never seen him yet.

300
00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:21,960
It's always tomorrow.

301
00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,400
There is always tomorrow or tonight or right now, just kidding.

302
00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,400
Okay.

303
00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,760
Well, I have a camera at the front door now.

304
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So fancy.

305
00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,280
Flannel Man, you can't creep outside of Caitlyn's house.

306
00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:37,280
Yeah.

307
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Most often, people ranging from children to adults, so pretty much everyone, see a man in

308
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a flannel shirt.

309
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And it's not just plain flannel though, it always has a plaid pattern on it.

310
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So like the typical, like what you would think about a lumberjack wearing.

311
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It's usually the red and black buffalo plaid that we're all used to.

312
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Even though it's usually like the red and black plaid, the colors do vary from story to

313
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story.

314
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So sometimes people have seen him in like a white and black plaid or a brown or even like

315
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a blue green.

316
00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,040
And I was just going to ask you about blue.

317
00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,040
Yeah.

318
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Blue green.

319
00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,040
Okay.

320
00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,640
And but it is always like a plaid pattern.

321
00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:29,840
He's almost always wearing blue jeans and boots and described us looking like a lumberjack.

322
00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:30,840
Okay.

323
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Typical lumberjack.

324
00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:38,440
And a couple people even say he has an axe, which kind of side note reminds me of something

325
00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,680
that me and my friend made up as a child.

326
00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:43,280
I don't know if I've mentioned it before on here.

327
00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,440
I don't know if this is a thing people do anymore, but we would like sleep outside in the backyard

328
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on the trampoline.

329
00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,440
Like all the time.

330
00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,440
Yeah.

331
00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,440
Like trampoline.

332
00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,320
I would now camping, you know?

333
00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,320
Yeah.

334
00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:59,560
But there was like this creepy neighbor's house and it was like all overgrown and stuff.

335
00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:04,480
And we used to say that axe man lived over there and the axe man was going to come for us.

336
00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,200
I don't know where this can't like I don't know where I heard it.

337
00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,320
I don't know where she heard it or if we just like made up this scary axe man thing,

338
00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:18,080
but it obviously in my mind, he looked like a lumberjack and he probably was wearing like

339
00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,920
plaid flannel jeans and boots with an axe.

340
00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,560
We didn't I don't remember ever seeing him.

341
00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,320
Did you just manifest the flannel man?

342
00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,720
Am I the reason for the flannel man?

343
00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,080
Am I the drama?

344
00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,800
I think there are sightings like before I was born.

345
00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,800
Okay.

346
00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,480
Or maybe like when I was like really young.

347
00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:45,040
I mean it could have been like past life you though because I feel like every iteration

348
00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:54,960
of you in every dimension loves a lumberjack and I flannel man from a past life.

349
00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,520
Oh, I don't know.

350
00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,320
Yeah, I don't know.

351
00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,320
I don't know.

352
00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,320
I do love flannels.

353
00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,320
Yeah.

354
00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,120
You do love a good flannel.

355
00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,120
It's very Seattle.

356
00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,120
It's funny you say that.

357
00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,120
Yeah.

358
00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,120
Okay.

359
00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,120
That might come back around later.

360
00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,120
Okay.

361
00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:18,440
And I've about me kind of most describe him as having a like longer dark hair and a beard.

362
00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:24,280
And I assume when people say longer hair they just mean like longer than like a short typical

363
00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,280
man hairstyle.

364
00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,280
Maybe.

365
00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:31,040
So not like long but like just like longer than short I guess.

366
00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,160
I was going to say do we get any sort of specificity around that?

367
00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:36,160
There is a variety.

368
00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,960
A lot of people just say he had longer hair.

369
00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,360
But there is some of them do have specific like it was shoulder length.

370
00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:47,960
It was this it was that but yeah, just longer than normal and usually kind of like not very

371
00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:48,960
neat.

372
00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,200
Okay.

373
00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:57,280
It bothers me when people say things sometimes like and I'm probably guilty of it too.

374
00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:02,600
I feel like sometimes we just expect people to finish our thought for us or we don't even

375
00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,680
realize it anyways.

376
00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:09,880
It bothers me when people say things like oh you know it's longer but like what?

377
00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:10,880
Right.

378
00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:11,880
Exactly.

379
00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:12,880
Like that.

380
00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:18,520
Like there should be a then yeah and then some other I think they mean they longer than normal

381
00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,000
but which is like that's so subjective.

382
00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,000
Right.

383
00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,520
Like normal for military normal for someone who lives in the woods for 50 years alone.

384
00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,000
Like what is normal?

385
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,000
Okay.

386
00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,840
I think like one one or like two people described as being like really like pretty long

387
00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,840
hair like shoulder length.

388
00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:36,840
Yeah.

389
00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,160
But I think somewhere between shoulder length and short is like what most people see.

390
00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,720
We're really going on about the hair.

391
00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:50,360
You know, I feel like maybe I maybe I did need my full regimen of meds today.

392
00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,800
It's the Leo in you though.

393
00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,520
You're just like obsessed with hair.

394
00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:54,520
That's the thing.

395
00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,520
Oh, is that a thing?

396
00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:56,520
It's a Leo thing.

397
00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,520
Yes.

398
00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:58,520
You're really.

399
00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,520
Oh, that makes so much sense.

400
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:00,520
Yeah.

401
00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,720
And I'm like a Leo of venus Leo.

402
00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:08,520
So like Venus is all about like your appearance and like lovely things and so like I'm also

403
00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,120
kind of obsessed with hair.

404
00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:11,120
So I get it.

405
00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:12,600
It makes sense for us.

406
00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:18,000
But this is kind of where things start to vary even more from story to story.

407
00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:23,520
So some have seen him as blonde instead of with dark hair.

408
00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,880
Most mostly with dark hair but a couple have seen him as blonde.

409
00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,520
Others see him wearing different kinds of hats.

410
00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,240
Some see him wearing like old-timey type of goggles.

411
00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,520
Kind of like leather goggles.

412
00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:43,320
I'm not sure what they would have been for but people just describe them as like old-timey.

413
00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,920
Like he's like rocking a steam punk.

414
00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,280
That's like where my mind went.

415
00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,160
I'm not under percent sure what the goggles were.

416
00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,160
Yeah.

417
00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,440
They're like also he I don't know if this is important at all but he's wearing like a

418
00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,440
plate.

419
00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,440
Dr. Mask you know it's fine.

420
00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,440
Everything's fine.

421
00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,440
It's all it's not that noticeable on your face.

422
00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,440
Yeah exactly exactly.

423
00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,440
I love it.

424
00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:11,960
That's kind of funny though because someone one of the stories it was like when she was a

425
00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:18,120
little kid and like the little boys that were with her were like are these night vision

426
00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:23,040
goggles and I'm like I don't think so funny but they're night vision goggles.

427
00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,640
Oh my god.

428
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:29,840
Those are like those are noticeable on your face no matter what stuff others tell you.

429
00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:30,840
Yeah.

430
00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,080
Listen don't believe everything you see on TV.

431
00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,080
Yeah.

432
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:43,080
The Beards range in description too so they range from short neat to very long and unkempt.

433
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,080
Okay.

434
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,640
Well that's where I'm like okay.

435
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:47,960
Different times of year maybe.

436
00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:48,960
Maybe.

437
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,080
I mean obviously we're not everyone's not seeing the same exact guy.

438
00:18:53,080 --> 00:19:00,760
It's kind of like hat man feel because like hat man is described kind of you know where

439
00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,680
you're very various different hats you know it's kind of like that type of thing so it's

440
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,400
not the same exact entity everyone is seeing.

441
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,120
Obviously that's kind of what I gather from listening to all the these stories but that

442
00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:15,120
was like one of their theories as well.

443
00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:16,120
Okay.

444
00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:17,920
I mean that kind of makes sense to me I guess.

445
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:24,720
The Beards can also be gray or just not there at all some of them don't have beards just

446
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,840
a chisel jaw ula la.

447
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,080
That rhymes.

448
00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:37,200
Most people say he is very tall like kind of taller than average like six foot to six

449
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,200
five.

450
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,200
Okay.

451
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,840
Others say he is about average height so like five eight to five ten.

452
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:43,840
Okay.

453
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,840
Is that average height now?

454
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,080
A ish average ish.

455
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,080
I don't know.

456
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,080
I don't know.

457
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,080
I don't know.

458
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,240
And then five ten's like average.

459
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,240
Yeah.

460
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,280
So short that it like these heights you're like what is numbers.

461
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,280
I don't know.

462
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,960
I'm like how do you breathe?

463
00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,560
You probably don't run so good there.

464
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,800
So you know that altitude sickness.

465
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:03,800
Yeah.

466
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,800
Yeah.

467
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:11,440
Every story I've heard from this podcast says that he is a white guy but there was like one

468
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:17,400
story that said he had tanskin and he could have been an indigenous person.

469
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,400
Oh, interesting.

470
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:24,240
But overwhelmingly he's a white dude like all of the serial killers.

471
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,240
Yeah.

472
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,240
Just watch out.

473
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,840
I mean, let's be real though.

474
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,640
Jake Bird we just talk about.

475
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,640
It's true.

476
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,640
It's true.

477
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,520
Their faces are often said to be in shadow or just overall hard to make out.

478
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:45,920
So other than like the beard and like a chiseled jaw people can't really make out things about

479
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:46,920
his face.

480
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,920
Oh, it's like a really bad sketch artist.

481
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:50,920
Yeah.

482
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:57,000
So I think it's just that like they don't want to be seen in detail but then there's like

483
00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,200
these other details that change like the hair color and things.

484
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,200
So I don't know.

485
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,200
It like depends on the lighting too.

486
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,840
For all of these like color issues.

487
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,840
So I don't know.

488
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,840
Yeah.

489
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:13,880
I think one of those like, you know, longer than or you know, lighter than than what?

490
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:14,880
Yeah.

491
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,920
I'm going to need you to give me two examples.

492
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,800
I just need a picture.

493
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,560
Get a picture of flannel man for us.

494
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,560
Not that hard.

495
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,560
What?

496
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,560
Like it's hard.

497
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,800
Actually it might be kind of hard.

498
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:25,800
Probably pretty hard.

499
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,880
I'll tell you why in a little bit.

500
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,920
A couple people have said that instead of a lumberjack they get more of like a 90's

501
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,440
grunt vibe from him.

502
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,680
And that's like my whole vibe today.

503
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,720
Bro, I got the Choker necklace.

504
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,720
Is it Kurt Cobain?

505
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:41,720
It's funny.

506
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,800
You say that because one person even named their flannel man Kurt.

507
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:47,800
Stop it.

508
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:48,800
Yeah.

509
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:56,280
There was one story about someone who saw described their whole situation and then was like, I call

510
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,960
him Kurt because like he was wearing a plan on the friendship.

511
00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:00,960
It's the vibe.

512
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:01,960
It's the vibe.

513
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,000
Oh my God.

514
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:09,320
And there have been a couple stories of even flannel women.

515
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,720
So there are a couple women involved in this flannel situation.

516
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,720
Okay.

517
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,720
Well now I feel a little bit like I need my scarf.

518
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,160
Although it's not flannel.

519
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,800
It'll be plaid but not flannel.

520
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,480
I mean plaid is flannel.

521
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,760
It's kind of interchangeable.

522
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:26,760
I think so.

523
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,760
Yeah.

524
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,040
Like my hair could be longer than.

525
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,040
Exactly.

526
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,040
Yeah.

527
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:37,040
Yeah, I know flannel is like technically like a material type but yeah.

528
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,560
And this is it's this is in this instance.

529
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:50,400
They do mean it as like the plaid and at least one person said that he had glowing red eyes.

530
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,400
No.

531
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,960
Oh, I really hate that.

532
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:55,960
I know.

533
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:56,960
Why?

534
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,200
It's creepy.

535
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,200
Yeah.

536
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,200
Yeah.

537
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,200
I don't know why it wasn't everybody.

538
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,000
To my knowledge listening to all these stories it was just the one person.

539
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,040
It wasn't it wasn't everyone.

540
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,040
Very.

541
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,800
And we'll kind of go over the feelings and stuff.

542
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,800
Okay.

543
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:14,800
A little bit.

544
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,800
Yeah.

545
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,800
I have a lot of feelings.

546
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,800
Okay.

547
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,800
A lot of people have a lot of feelings.

548
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,640
I don't have a lot of feeling in my feet right now.

549
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,040
But I have feelings for you flannel man.

550
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,280
Will you come visit me tonight in my room?

551
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,280
Yeah.

552
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,280
Her room at her house.

553
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,280
Spring the axe.

554
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,880
Oh my god.

555
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,880
Something's happening to me.

556
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:36,880
Yeah.

557
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,880
It's taking over my body.

558
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,840
You are being really weird.

559
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,760
So what happens during a flannel man sighting?

560
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,760
Probably nothing.

561
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,520
I'm sure it's everything's fine.

562
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,520
Everything's fine.

563
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,520
Everything's fine.

564
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,360
Everybody goes home and goes bed and I mean kind of.

565
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:52,360
Oh.

566
00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:53,360
Okay.

567
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:54,360
Cool.

568
00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:59,360
So you're like half right?

569
00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:00,360
Okay.

570
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:01,360
No.

571
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:06,360
That's not even close to the same thing at all.

572
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,120
You're the bed part right?

573
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:10,360
That's not in the spirit of what I said.

574
00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:14,640
I just want to be a fun to be clear about that.

575
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,240
Or they like wake up in the middle of the night and you know like go to get a drink of

576
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:24,320
water or something and then randomly see the flannel man standing like in the kitchen

577
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,600
or somewhere along the way.

578
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:32,880
And encounters typically don't last very long before he will just disappear in front of

579
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,600
your eyes or like you'll turn and then he'll be gone or he'll just like start to walk

580
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,320
away and fade away.

581
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,320
Okay.

582
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:46,280
So he doesn't stick around very long and then usually people say he's just kind of like

583
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,160
staring at you, watching you.

584
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,160
Okay.

585
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,960
So he's sort of like the two pump chomp of like apparitions.

586
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,960
I guess so.

587
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:55,960
Yeah.

588
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,960
Kind of.

589
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,960
Okay.

590
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,320
But he does like to stare and watch.

591
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:04,080
But then if he sees you notice him, he gets kind of like startled and then like sometimes

592
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,000
that's when he'll disappear or like run away.

593
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000
The audacity.

594
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000
Oh, I'm sorry.

595
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,000
Did I scare you?

596
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000
Yeah.

597
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000
My own house.

598
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,520
So it's kind of like one of those ones like which one of you is the ghost, you know?

599
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,520
I'm him.

600
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,160
I feel confident.

601
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,520
I don't need to phone a friend.

602
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,520
Yeah.

603
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,840
Final answer.

604
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,800
I don't know if he knows where he's at.

605
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,800
If he's just startled to be caught, not really sure.

606
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,680
I just feel like I just like shook my head.

607
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,000
So like I don't know.

608
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,040
That just I got like, well, well, dizzy there.

609
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,360
Is that gives me Sir your startle?

610
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:44,360
Yeah.

611
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:45,360
Okay.

612
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:51,960
A few people say that they woke up from a loud sound, but it's kind of like you, you

613
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,760
don't really know what the sound was because you're like, you were asleep in all of a sudden

614
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,720
you're awake from some sort of sound and then saw him.

615
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,280
So like that makes it kind of extra creepy.

616
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,280
Yeah.

617
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,160
Like is he burying his accent like my closet door or something?

618
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,320
Like is that what I'm, is that the sound?

619
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,160
He needs to bury his accent me.

620
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,440
Oh, you know what?

621
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,440
Okay.

622
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,360
This is why I wore the shirt today.

623
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:23,880
I'm going to show you guys my shirt from the Ash and you go concert.

624
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,120
It says I can't help that I want to be Titi smothered because I feel like I am like going

625
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:33,640
so hardcore on like dudes like, I love lumberjack dudes, but I also want some Titi.

626
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,680
So I felt like I had to represent both today.

627
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,680
Okay.

628
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,680
To see you guys out.

629
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,520
I am selfish and I want everybody.

630
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,520
Yeah.

631
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,960
I wanted all.

632
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,200
So we left off after I said that people woke up sometimes from a loud sound didn't know

633
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,200
what it was and then they see flattamann.

634
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,200
No.

635
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,200
Kind of like that.

636
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,920
But for the most part, people don't really get a bad vibe from him.

637
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:03,720
It's just like overall feeling uncomfortable at suddenly seeing like a man in your house

638
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,560
that shouldn't be there.

639
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,560
Relatable.

640
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,560
Yeah.

641
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,280
And some people do even see him like not just in their home.

642
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,880
Some people have reported him like on the side of the road.

643
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,680
How many of you said they saw I'm sitting on like a median of like a highway?

644
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,320
Oh, which is a really weird spot.

645
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,120
So like places like he really shouldn't be.

646
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:25,120
Okay.

647
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:26,120
Yeah.

648
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:27,120
No one should be there.

649
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,120
No one should be.

650
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:31,480
No man should be in your bedroom or on the side of the road or anywhere.

651
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,480
Just don't be there.

652
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,480
Even in flannel.

653
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,160
It's not an excuse.

654
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,320
There's no excuse.

655
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,600
Not even flannel.

656
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,960
People say that they also feel like even though he looks like a normal person, like he's

657
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,720
solid, he's not like see through anything, they just get the vibe that he's not.

658
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,240
He's like not a normal person.

659
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,240
He's not of this world.

660
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,440
Like he's something different in paranormal basically.

661
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,440
Okay.

662
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,440
He's a not dear.

663
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,440
He's a not lumberjack.

664
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,440
Yeah.

665
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,440
Oh, new thing.

666
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,920
Flannel man's out.

667
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,920
Not lumberjack is in.

668
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,920
New level.

669
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:14,760
So like I said, people don't really get like a super evil, a menacing vibe from him or anything.

670
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:22,280
Other than a couple instances like the one where he was just standing there, grinning

671
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:29,720
at a mother and daughter at the same time into separate bedrooms.

672
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,720
I'm sorry.

673
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,720
What?

674
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,720
Yeah.

675
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:39,800
He was just standing there in his flannel just grinning at this mother and daughter who

676
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,680
were in two separate rooms and had this experience at the same exact time.

677
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,200
The mom screamed because she saw a man in her room.

678
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,200
Yeah.

679
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,000
And then when she screamed, he disappeared and she heard her daughter screaming like there's

680
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,480
a man in my room.

681
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,440
So they were having like the same experience at the same time.

682
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,480
I don't care for that.

683
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,800
I'll be honest.

684
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,880
The grinning is just like, yeah.

685
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,480
That feels menacing.

686
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,680
Okay, especially when you do that with your eyes.

687
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,840
Like I think of pinny eyes.

688
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,320
I don't know what I did with my eyes.

689
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,320
Hopefully it was creepy.

690
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,320
Oh God.

691
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,320
Yeah.

692
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,320
No, it was creepy.

693
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,320
Good.

694
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,320
God.

695
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,640
I'm going to just sit here and like completely destroy my cuticle.

696
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,640
I was going to scare you.

697
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,320
Like picking your nails right now.

698
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,320
You're nervous.

699
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,800
No, I'm fine.

700
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:31,240
We could have put oven mitts on you so you don't see.

701
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,240
Oh my God.

702
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,720
Yeah, I might need a.

703
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,760
Maybe I'll grab a rock.

704
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,240
Oh, that's a good idea.

705
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,240
Yeah.

706
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,240
Rub your rocks.

707
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,240
Get your rocks off.

708
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Get your rocks off.

709
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:50,720
People report even smelling him like the smell of his new clothes or his like leathery

710
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,680
boots or even feeling his boots.

711
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,920
Like some people have like reached out to touch him and they he feels like solid.

712
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,120
He is there.

713
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,040
Why are we just touching people's home?

714
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,280
I think because like if you're in your sleepy state, you wake up and you just want to like,

715
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,160
I don't know, see if see if they're if that's real.

716
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:18,240
And apparently he is someone even like hold on his beard kind of thinking it was like Halloween

717
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,240
time.

718
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,040
They thought maybe it was one of their parents.

719
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,480
It was a kid.

720
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,520
So they like reached up and yanked his beard and it like didn't come off.

721
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,520
It was.

722
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,760
Spoiler alert was not one of the parents.

723
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,600
Some other interesting things happened in that story.

724
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,480
Yeah, you'll have to just go go listen.

725
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:46,160
One Reddit comment from Hail the Cat Overlords apparently had reoccurring sightings of him

726
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:54,120
of flannel man and said that he always smelled like cigarettes and they asked him to stop smoking

727
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,640
when he came around.

728
00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:01,640
Oh, and he did like they never smelled the cigarettes again when they saw him.

729
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,640
So it's pretty nice.

730
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,640
Yeah, that's polite.

731
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,120
It's like a decent dude, I guess.

732
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,120
Yeah.

733
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,120
So it's the staring and the grinning.

734
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,120
Yeah.

735
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,960
I just picture him kind of smelling like sawdust.

736
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,240
Yeah, you would think, right?

737
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,400
I don't think anyone reported that the the smells were mostly like about his clothes and

738
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,480
like the cigarette smell.

739
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,480
Interesting.

740
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,880
That would be interesting for them to start asking people like was there any smells associated

741
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,880
with it?

742
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,880
Yeah.

743
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:44,480
Like that's one of or arguably the most impactful sensory thing.

744
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,480
I don't know.

745
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,400
I'm struggling to find the words for that.

746
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,400
Everything's fine.

747
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,680
I don't think it's fine.

748
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,440
Most people say they just see him once and then don't ever see him again with the exception

749
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,160
of like a couple people like the cigarette people, the cigarette people.

750
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,440
But not cigarette people because they didn't want the cigarette.

751
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,400
The non smokers.

752
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,760
And all of these people that are telling their stories, they're saying that they they've

753
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,440
had this experience of seeing flannel man before really even hearing about it.

754
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,200
Because like this is like a super well known thing.

755
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,400
It's more known now than it was when they started this.

756
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,440
I mean, like as people started telling their stories and people hear them and then they're

757
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,920
like, oh my gosh, like I've seen flannel man.

758
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:38,880
I've seen a man in plaid show up either in my bedroom or along the side of the road.

759
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,760
It's a little more owner, I say like believable.

760
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,760
Oh, yeah.

761
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,480
Because these people aren't just hearing the story and then saying, oh, I saw him.

762
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,120
Like it wasn't like implanted in their mind or anything.

763
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Yeah, that makes sense.

764
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:58,320
And they're usually like shocked to hear that other people have seen this man and flannel.

765
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,680
So I feel like it's something that's a very specific but also like very general.

766
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,680
If that makes sense.

767
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:10,080
Like seeing a man in plaid, you're not automatically like, oh, that's something that is interesting

768
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,080
really.

769
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,080
It's just kind of general.

770
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:17,080
But then when you see other people start having the same saying the same things over,

771
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,160
it's like, oh, maybe that isn't so general.

772
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,320
It's kind of specific.

773
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,320
Yeah.

774
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:27,120
Well, I think some of that, you know, it's in an isolated incident.

775
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,640
It's like maybe it's just very innocuous.

776
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,640
Yeah.

777
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:38,400
When you get down to like the pattern recognition of it all, it's like, oh, that seems more meaningful.

778
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,400
Yeah.

779
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,920
Like there's more to it.

780
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,440
Thank you for understanding what I was trying to say and explaining it better because I

781
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,680
was just like, it's general, but it's also specific.

782
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,680
Yeah.

783
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:54,160
No, but it's one of those things where actually I just was watching a show and they were talking

784
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:59,560
about how the best place to hide something is in plain sight.

785
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,560
Oh, yes.

786
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,280
Basically, you know, and yeah, Cassie can really, that's so funny.

787
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,400
It's all, it all ties together.

788
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,840
Cassie came into my room because I was going to go look for something plaid and I was like,

789
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,400
oh, you can't come in here.

790
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,800
And I literally never said that.

791
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,560
Usually she's like standing outside the door like, can I come in?

792
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:28,280
Like suddenly, you know, one or both of Chris and I will be naked somehow, but I don't

793
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,520
know what they do in there.

794
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,520
You guys.

795
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,600
I'm like, I was literally in the doorway 15 seconds ago.

796
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,280
I don't know how quickly.

797
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,320
Well, when you said that to your like, oh, you can't come in here.

798
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,600
I'm looking right at you and I was like, oh, are you naked?

799
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,600
Yeah, you did.

800
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,600
Yeah.

801
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,600
Are you naked?

802
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,600
I'm looking at you.

803
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,000
Like what?

804
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,400
Well, and it was just us here at the house.

805
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,400
Yeah.

806
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,800
But it was because there's something that's forecasty, but it's not pretty yet.

807
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,320
So I saw nothing.

808
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,400
Yeah, she's like, I don't know.

809
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:08,680
I saw nothing, apparently not even Caitlin standing right in front of me fully clothed.

810
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,680
Yeah.

811
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,240
Talk about pattern recognition.

812
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:15,880
So that's me.

813
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,680
I don't notice things.

814
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,920
I feel like you'd notice Plano Man.

815
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,680
I think that's what really matters.

816
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,680
Yeah, I probably would notice you, Plano Man.

817
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,680
Yeah.

818
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:30,000
If you'd like to show yourself, not at Caitlin's, we've established.

819
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:37,160
So no one really knows what Plano Man is or what he, she, they mean or want.

820
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,240
But some people think he might be some type of spirit guide.

821
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:46,240
The people that don't get like the really bad vibes from him kind of think maybe he's

822
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:51,840
a spirit guide or even an interdimensional entity.

823
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,920
Oh, so he's just like popping in and out of dimensions here and there.

824
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:03,720
That's so weird because do you remember me saying that in every iteration of you, in every

825
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:07,280
dimension, I think you're attracted to Plano Man?

826
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,280
Yeah.

827
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,800
Yeah, I do remember you saying that.

828
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,320
I was like, oh, it's interesting.

829
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,320
She brings up other dimensions.

830
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,320
Yeah.

831
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,120
Interesting choice of word.

832
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:24,360
A few people see him before having like, Promenicians or before seeing other things like Bigfoot or UFOs.

833
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,360
Really?

834
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,360
Yeah.

835
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,360
That's interesting.

836
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,840
It is really interesting.

837
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,720
And this is where we trip and fall right into a high-strangeness hole and pop out and

838
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,480
point pleasant West Virginia.

839
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,480
Oh.

840
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,800
And for anyone who doesn't know, point pleasant West Virginia is where the Mothman prophecies

841
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,280
takes place.

842
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,280
Okay.

843
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:52,440
So this book/movie, shout out Richard Gehr, talks about a lot of other strange things besides

844
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,960
just Mothman.

845
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,960
Okay.

846
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,600
And one of the stories in this book/movie, actually, I don't know if it's in the movie, I've

847
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,720
never actually seen the movie.

848
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:02,720
I will watch it.

849
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:03,720
What's this movie?

850
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:05,240
The Mothman prophecies.

851
00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:06,240
Oh, okay.

852
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:07,240
Okay.

853
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:08,240
It's true.

854
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:11,960
It's a true story about this man looking into all these strange things.

855
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,960
One of them is Mothman.

856
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,960
Okay.

857
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,160
And a lot of other strange things happen around it, basically.

858
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,160
Okay.

859
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,160
Okay.

860
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,960
Richard Gehr is in the movie.

861
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,000
And Richard Gehr is also there.

862
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,280
It's not a rom-com.

863
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:32,240
So one of the stories in the Mothman prophecies is about someone waking up at night.

864
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:36,560
I think it was a, I think this was a child.

865
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:43,520
And seeing a tall, checkered shirt man, he was staring.

866
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,320
And they couldn't make out the facial features very well.

867
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,520
No, thank you.

868
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:53,320
Other than a very large grin on his face.

869
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,320
Okay.

870
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,160
Well, that's just, it's rude.

871
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:02,400
So we have another grinning, flannel, assumedly.

872
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,000
They say a checkered shirt, but a checkered plaid, basically the same thing.

873
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Yeah, yeah.

874
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,600
We have another grinning flannel man.

875
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,600
Like, what?

876
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,600
Okay.

877
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,800
That is so weird.

878
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,880
And this is a completely different story from like the mother and daughter who woke up

879
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,440
at the same time, seeing the same grinning flannel man.

880
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,040
Like this has happened a long time ago.

881
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,240
So it's interesting.

882
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:33,960
And it's even more weird just to me personally because I've had this show called Hellier, which

883
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,560
is like, it's a documentary about all this like high-strangeness stuff, kind of like the

884
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Mothman prophecies.

885
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,560
Yeah.

886
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,560
It's a huge thread of like connection with the Mothman prophecies in the show that I've

887
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:50,920
been like binging and like it's been like my comfort background as I'm writing this.

888
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,680
So I was like, oh, that's like kind of weird.

889
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,800
And then so now I just feel like I'm so close to being initiated into something.

890
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,800
Something.

891
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,800
Something's happening.

892
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,800
You're on the verge.

893
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,240
I'm on the synchronicity path.

894
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:07,240
It's taken me somewhere.

895
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,240
I don't know where it's taken me, but stay tuned.

896
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:14,240
There's a really good chance I might snap this in half.

897
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:21,440
I feel like I'm about to lose Caitlin on all this really, really deep, weird stuff.

898
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,440
So we'll keep it light.

899
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,800
And that's for all in all of that for now.

900
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:30,600
But you guys, if you're interested in any of that, like that shit runs deep, like, yeah.

901
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:36,920
It's really interesting, but it does immediately kind of, it puts like the, gives you the tingles,

902
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,800
like the fighting senses, your hackles are going up.

903
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,800
A little bit weird stuff.

904
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,400
Hopefully I don't drag you down the hole with me.

905
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,920
I mean, I think it's a little too late for that.

906
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:55,200
You're like holding on to the edge and I'm holding you like, you're like pitch like

907
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,200
oh, my leg.

908
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:01,040
I don't want anything to do with it.

909
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:07,840
So all of this made me think of my weird Oregon book, which if you see the cover right

910
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:15,520
now on YouTube or Patreon, oh boy, has a picture of a giant Paul Bunions statue on the front

911
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,280
and he is wearing a red and white checker shirt.

912
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,880
He sure is in this book.

913
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:26,480
They have a chapter titled Bunions of the Beaver State.

914
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,480
That's hilarious.

915
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,480
I know.

916
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,480
Bunions of the Beaver State.

917
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,480
Wow.

918
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,480
That's a lot of bunions.

919
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:43,280
Well, yeah, I mean, it's a little bit of a double-on-pound.

920
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,920
But they talk about these two Paul Bunions statues that are in Oregon and they don't have

921
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,600
anything to do with Bunions on your feet.

922
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,640
They're Paul Bunions.

923
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:59,400
The very first giant hunk of Paul Bunion fiberglass was made in Venice, California for a

924
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,080
cafe in Flagstaff, Arizona.

925
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,160
The same mold was used to create muffler men.

926
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:13,720
They are these giant dude statues, like these Paul Bunions statues.

927
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:15,200
They weren't just lumberjacks.

928
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,960
They were like many other various manly man figures.

929
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,440
They were at car shops or muffler shops.

930
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,400
I don't know if they were like a muffler shops or a Michelin man.

931
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,600
No, I'm kind of like that, but they're called the muffler men and they are supposed to

932
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:37,760
draw people into like get their mufflers muff for what other car things happen at car places.

933
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,760
I don't know.

934
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,560
Get your mufflers muffler.

935
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,640
You're going to get your mufflers muffed.

936
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:48,040
The first one was a lumberjack that they were all various different types of manzes.

937
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,040
Giant manzes.

938
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,840
I'm going to look at that a little bit more later.

939
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,840
Just go ahead and open it.

940
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,840
Did you see any?

941
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,680
They're just giant men statues.

942
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:57,680
Okay.

943
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,280
The 60s, am I right?

944
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,120
They were a time.

945
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:10,720
Grandspass Oregon still has a giant Paul Bunions statue in front of the cedarwood saloon.

946
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:12,320
I don't know if he's still there.

947
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,800
The last picture I saw was on Facebook in 2017.

948
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,200
He was looking a little rough.

949
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,280
His face is all chipped and stuff.

950
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,720
I don't know if he's still there.

951
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,360
I was just going to say if anyone lives there, it knows.

952
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,360
Send us a picture.

953
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,360
Yeah.

954
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:38,000
In the 90s, someone was upset with the new owners and they pulled this poor Paul down with

955
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,840
a truck and then drug him across the street.

956
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,640
Oh, I know.

957
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,760
Oh, no.

958
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,800
And then since then, I feel like he's been a little cursed.

959
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,800
Okay.

960
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,120
Cars have run into him.

961
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,640
He's been shot with BB guns.

962
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,360
Oh my gosh.

963
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,360
And one fateful wind storm.

964
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,000
He was decapitated.

965
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Oh my God.

966
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,840
So somehow they got his head back on.

967
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,840
Super glue.

968
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,840
I guess so.

969
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,840
Yeah.

970
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,720
So I don't know who knows if he hasn't just completely fallen apart.

971
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:16,000
But it's time to give up the ghost.

972
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,000
Yeah.

973
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Poor guy.

974
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Poor Paul.

975
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Poor Paulie.

976
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,840
Getting decapitated and shit.

977
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,640
That's rough.

978
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,280
This is one of my random thoughts in here too.

979
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:32,360
Like what if all the flannum and spirits are of abused Paul Bunyan statues?

980
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,360
That's kind of freaky.

981
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,360
I'm not going to lie.

982
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,360
That's why they're all so tall.

983
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,840
Yeah, I guess that would make sense.

984
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:47,440
But this guy on the front, they say that he's probably pretty happy.

985
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,200
Like look at this big old grin.

986
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,760
He has on his face.

987
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,080
Very creepy.

988
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,320
He's grinning.

989
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,320
Yeah.

990
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,920
He's the grinning flannel man.

991
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,880
He is in downtown Portland, Oregon.

992
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:09,240
This Paul Bunyan statue was made for Oregon's 100th birthday to honor the timber industry.

993
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:12,720
Shout out to Ralph.

994
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:13,720
Ralph Ralph Reigns.

995
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:14,720
Yes.

996
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:15,720
Junior.

997
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:16,720
Ralph.

998
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:17,720
Yeah.

999
00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:18,720
Ralph Jr.

1000
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:19,720
Ralph Jr.

1001
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:20,720
That was such a good episode.

1002
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:21,720
Yeah.

1003
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:22,720
That was a good one.

1004
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:23,720
Awful.

1005
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:24,720
But like he's so sweet.

1006
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:28,640
Both of the timber heirs that we've talked about because the other is obviously the warehouse

1007
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,640
or kids.

1008
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:30,640
It's like, woof.

1009
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,640
That's a little.

1010
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,640
Yeah.

1011
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:33,960
They're both a little dark.

1012
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:41,120
So they placed him near the border to Washington as a little, hey girl, welcome in.

1013
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:46,120
And they did move him about 50 feet from his original spot to make way for like the trains

1014
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,120
and shit.

1015
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,120
Okay.

1016
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,120
Yeah.

1017
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,120
I mean, as the city grows, yeah, I'm excited.

1018
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,120
I'm going to move some stuff.

1019
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,960
But he's not too far.

1020
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,560
He was directly across from the Dancin’ Bare Strip Club.

1021
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,560
And that's B-A-R-E.

1022
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,920
Not like a dancing bear.

1023
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:09,240
I feel like if you really want to be on brand though, bear, you know, B-E-A-R.

1024
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:10,240
Yeah.

1025
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:11,720
That's true.

1026
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaking of Strip Club's titties.

1027
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,520
Today's.

1028
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,120
I was very on theme.

1029
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,920
But from a quick little Goog map search, it looks like the Dancin' Bare is now closed.

1030
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,920
To COVID.

1031
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,720
Oh, I know.

1032
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,520
From the COVID shutdown, they just couldn't recover, you know?

1033
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,520
Yeah.

1034
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,520
Yeah.

1035
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,480
Yeah, that kind of sucks.

1036
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,920
So he was like really happy for a while looking over all the strippers.

1037
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,920
But now I don't know.

1038
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,960
Maybe his grin is slowly turning into a frown.

1039
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,680
Well, to go visit him.

1040
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,680
I don't know that I've ever seen this.

1041
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,680
Yeah.

1042
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:47,680
I think I have it.

1043
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,000
I'm trying to place it.

1044
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,960
And it's like iconography in my head.

1045
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:52,960
Yeah.

1046
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,960
I see it.

1047
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,760
I feel like I've actually seen it in person.

1048
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:58,760
Maybe I've seen it.

1049
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,760
I don't know.

1050
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:00,760
Yeah.

1051
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,760
I...

1052
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:08,160
Maybe the fact that we can't remember if we've seen it is like something weird happening.

1053
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,160
Something.

1054
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,160
It's...

1055
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,440
Oh, it's something.

1056
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,440
It's something.

1057
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,160
We'll have to go find him next time we're down there.

1058
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,160
All right.

1059
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,040
Well, you know, we're, you know, we make other plans.

1060
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,360
Things happen and, you know, you have a couple drinks and suddenly you're just, you know,

1061
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,360
not doing that.

1062
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,600
But look how he smiles.

1063
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,920
This also kind of made me think of like we've talked about a couple different lumberjack

1064
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,920
ghosts.

1065
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,360
I feel like in some of our episodes, I think Lithia Park had a lumberjack.

1066
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,360
Yeah.

1067
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,280
I don't know if it was the St. Helens one where the lumberjack was just like sitting in

1068
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,880
a booth at the restaurant.

1069
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,480
That sounds like maybe I'm one of those.

1070
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,000
Lithia Park for sure.

1071
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,000
Yeah.

1072
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:57,760
Like that rings a bell for me and I remember that, but I don't know, I can't say for sure about

1073
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,760
which other one.

1074
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,760
Yeah.

1075
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,280
I think it was the St. Helens one where we talked about that restaurant.

1076
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,280
But yeah.

1077
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,200
Someone, you know, go listen to all of our episodes and correct me.

1078
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,200
Yeah.

1079
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,200
Please.

1080
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,200
No big deal.

1081
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,200
Have your friends listen.

1082
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:17,520
So I want to kind of end this with a little funny Reddit thread here.

1083
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,520
Okay.

1084
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,520
Very short.

1085
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,760
Just a couple of comments.

1086
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:28,440
So the OP says, has anyone had a sighting sloshing counter with the flannel shirt man and

1087
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,000
suspended account extrasandwich232. suspended.

1088
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,000
Oh.

1089
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:40,400
So you guys, I don't know if you know when you copy and paste this, it shows you that this

1090
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,680
account, it like copies in suspended account next to the name.

1091
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,680
So I thought that was interesting.

1092
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,680
Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have known.

1093
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,680
Yeah.

1094
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,680
That is interesting.

1095
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,400
But I thought that was funny just because of what they say next.

1096
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,400
So yeah.

1097
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,400
Quote.

1098
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,000
I saw the flannel shirt man come out of my ex's house once.

1099
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,440
She said he haunts her a few times a week.

1100
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,040
Is that why she's next?

1101
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,040
What?

1102
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:10,680
I feel like she might just be cheating on you with a lumberjack.

1103
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,280
Well, that's that's a possibility.

1104
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,280
Yeah.

1105
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,520
She wants me to see you in a few times a week.

1106
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,520
Yeah.

1107
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:22,800
If you spend any time on Reddit, a lot of cheating stories there.

1108
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:23,800
Yeah.

1109
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,400
On, on, am I the asshole?

1110
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,400
Yeah.

1111
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,400
A lot of them there.

1112
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,720
A-I-T-A.

1113
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:34,040
There was another comment from, it's like bbybluecheese83.

1114
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,080
So I'm like, baby blue cheese 83 is how I read it in my head.

1115
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,360
Only in the 90s with it tied around his waist.

1116
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,360
I feel so attacked right now.

1117
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,440
Wait, they're just, they're, because they're saying has anyone seen flannel shirt man and

1118
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,200
they're like only in the 90s with it tied around his waist.

1119
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,200
Uh-huh.

1120
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,200
Okay.

1121
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,200
Okay.

1122
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,200
Yeah.

1123
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,080
Kind of surprising, not really surprising.

1124
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:03,640
I had this very flannel shirt tied around my waist last night.

1125
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:08,480
I was flannel man in Portland last night.

1126
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,080
I went downtown to the underhill haunted house.

1127
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,080
Yeah, you did.

1128
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,080
By myself.

1129
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,080
Yeah.

1130
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,160
All alone.

1131
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:23,200
If you missed it, we had them come on for an interview that was a bonus a few weeks ago.

1132
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,320
By now it's past Halloween now.

1133
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,120
So they're not open anymore.

1134
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:32,320
But they did give me like a lights on backstage tour.

1135
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,320
Very cool.

1136
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,880
And then I went through the haunted house and I did it by myself.

1137
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,360
I did everything alone.

1138
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,360
Yeah.

1139
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,360
Which was an experience.

1140
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,560
Um, yeah, I can imagine.

1141
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,800
I'll share that experience with the Patreon.

1142
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,680
I did do like a little recording of me walking through.

1143
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,880
I have a lot of recordings of like the backstage of them doing makeup.

1144
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,440
So yeah, we'll do a nice little Patreon bonus about that.

1145
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,800
And I also wanted to tease you a little bit because only Patreon will get to know about

1146
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:07,920
something very, very cool and very special that happened while I was there.

1147
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,480
And I like, I totally fan-girled so hard.

1148
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,120
It was like embarrassing how fan-girly I got over this.

1149
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,120
Really?

1150
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,440
Super secret detail that I'll share with the Patreon and the bonus.

1151
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,440
Oh my God.

1152
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,440
Look at my face.

1153
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,640
I don't want to, but me too, right?

1154
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,640
Like you'll tell me.

1155
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,080
Of course I'll tell you.

1156
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,080
You won't care.

1157
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,080
Oh, okay.

1158
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,080
Um, I want to know.

1159
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,080
I want to know.

1160
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,080
You'll get to know.

1161
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,080
Okay.

1162
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,240
So yeah, if you guys want to know, join our Patreon.

1163
00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:41,840
If you have any flannel man stories, please feel free to share them with us.

1164
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:48,160
But also please send them to the Strange Familiars podcast so that they can like get all of these

1165
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,240
stories collect them off for their book that they're going to write because they're doing

1166
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,240
like a whole like anthology.

1167
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:55,240
Yeah.

1168
00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:56,240
Yeah.

1169
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:59,040
And I want this book so like I feel like they need more stories.

1170
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,040
Yeah.

1171
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,520
But also send them to us so that we can make them a creepy people chronicles, you know?

1172
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:04,520
Obviously.

1173
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,520
What's our email?

1174
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,520
pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com.

1175
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:08,520
Oh yeah.

1176
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:09,840
Well, do you want to do some tarot?

1177
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:10,840
Do we do some tarot?

1178
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:11,840
Yeah, let's do tarot.

1179
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:12,840
Let's do some tarot.

1180
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,640
Land on man tarot.

1181
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:15,640
All right.

1182
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,400
What type of rigana use?

1183
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,400
I don't know.

1184
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,080
I brought my mushroom oracle.

1185
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,320
Ooh, I feel like that feels like a feels appropriate.

1186
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,000
It's feeling naturey.

1187
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,000
Yeah.

1188
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:32,800
Yeah, I was going to say unless you have one that you specifically have chosen, we can

1189
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:33,800
always do the PNW.

1190
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,440
I know you, but I think the mushroom that feels right.

1191
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,440
I think so too.

1192
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,440
Yeah.

1193
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:40,440
Let's do some oracle.

1194
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,440
Let's do it.

1195
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,440
All right.

1196
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:43,440
We're at the tarot.

1197
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:54,280
I'm going to get my butt back out of my seat and go draw a card from the altar.

1198
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,440
I have a mouse spread out there.

1199
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,480
My mushroom oracle deck.

1200
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,680
What you get?

1201
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,920
I got the Amethyst Deceiver.

1202
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:05,920
Oh.

1203
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,320
It means deception.

1204
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,820
Deception.

1205
00:52:09,820 --> 00:52:14,520
And I will get my little interpretation booklet from my computer real quick.

1206
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,520
Okay.

1207
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,520
Number four.

1208
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,000
Should I read us some mushroom bags?

1209
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,000
Oh, yeah, sure.

1210
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,960
Well, they might give us some in the interpretation.

1211
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:24,960
Okay.

1212
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:25,960
I'll let you go first then.

1213
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,960
Okay.

1214
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:27,960
I just was trying to vamp.

1215
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:28,960
Yeah, I don't know.

1216
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,120
Some time to pull that up.

1217
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,760
I want to know the mushroom facts for sure.

1218
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,760
Okay.

1219
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:35,760
It's on page 48.

1220
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,240
All right.

1221
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:39,800
It's actually a pretty sizable mushroom.

1222
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,000
Does it look purpley in these pictures online?

1223
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,000
It does.

1224
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,000
Well, it's named Amethyst.

1225
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,600
It like has to be.

1226
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:47,600
Yeah.

1227
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,600
Okay.

1228
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:55,240
So it is edible, though, can contain high levels of arsenic if present in the soil.

1229
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:56,240
Oh, interesting.

1230
00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:00,000
So like if there's arsenic in the soil, it'll like absorb it up.

1231
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,000
Yeah.

1232
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,000
Yeah.

1233
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,080
Which I think would be true of like most plants.

1234
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:11,720
Well, I mean, maybe not most plants because I feel like not all plants will absorb certain

1235
00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:15,560
nutrients, but or different things present in the soil.

1236
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,080
Is arsenic a nutrient?

1237
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,600
Well, yeah.

1238
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:25,840
But just generally speaking, I think, you know, I'm, I'm no my callogist, but.

1239
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,920
And I need to learn how to like pronounce the name, like the actual names of these.

1240
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,920
Lacaria, Amethystina.

1241
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,720
I was probably pretty close.

1242
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:35,720
Yeah.

1243
00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:36,720
I think it sounds.

1244
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:37,720
Yeah.

1245
00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:38,720
Lacaria.

1246
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:39,720
Lacaria.

1247
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:40,720
Yeah.

1248
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:41,720
Do you want me to look for pronunciation?

1249
00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:42,720
If you want.

1250
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:43,720
Okay.

1251
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:44,720
Why not?

1252
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:45,720
Why not, you know?

1253
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:46,720
Why not a fuck not?

1254
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:47,720
Yeah.

1255
00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:48,720
So how you said it?

1256
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:49,720
Okay.

1257
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:50,720
Pretty close.

1258
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:51,720
I wasn't way off.

1259
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:52,720
Yeah.

1260
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:53,720
No, you were right on the money.

1261
00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:54,720
Okay.

1262
00:53:54,720 --> 00:54:00,000
So I found in leaf litter in woodlands and under beach trees.

1263
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:06,640
The Amethyst deceiver is an amazing violet color, which during wet weather will show a deep

1264
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:07,640
purple.

1265
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:08,640
It's very pretty.

1266
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:09,640
Yeah.

1267
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,680
Two others are purple, flannel, and not that we know of.

1268
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,280
Not yet.

1269
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:23,080
During dry weather, when it mature, when it matures, as we mature, the cap changes to a very

1270
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:31,080
pale, almost white color, making this mushroom look similar to the other mushrooms that can

1271
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,080
be poisonous.

1272
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,080
Interesting.

1273
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,080
So I thought that was interesting.

1274
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,080
It's a deceiver.

1275
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,080
Yeah.

1276
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,080
Yeah.

1277
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:44,960
But it looks similar to something like a human, but isn't like it's deceiving you.

1278
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:45,960
Big old faker, baker.

1279
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,760
You're not all on Bajak.

1280
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:48,760
Yeah.

1281
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:55,480
I found a picture that it shows when the mushroom cap sort of flattens out.

1282
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,320
And it has sort of a depression in the center.

1283
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,560
It looks like sort of like a little kind of looks like a bubble.

1284
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,240
Oh, I like bubbles.

1285
00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:10,280
And that's it typically appears as the center of the cap, like kind of as it as it all flattens

1286
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,280
out.

1287
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,280
Oh, interesting.

1288
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,280
Interesting.

1289
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,280
Was there any more facts?

1290
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,840
I think that was it for kind of like the facts.

1291
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,040
We're going to go into the card meaning after that.

1292
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,040
Okay.

1293
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,040
Yeah.

1294
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:29,480
So average mushroom height, four to six centimeters average cap width, 1.5 to five.

1295
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:34,680
So it's not like a huge is it longer than normal?

1296
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,360
Is it a longer mushroom?

1297
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,360
Yeah.

1298
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,360
It's also found in the UK.

1299
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,360
Oh, which I thought was interesting.

1300
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:50,560
It's interesting because like I didn't originally add in the UK because I think there was just like

1301
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,800
one story.

1302
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:57,400
But then because of your not burberry scarf, I added the UK.

1303
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:58,400
Yeah.

1304
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,080
I'm scrolling through because I did notice a couple of different things.

1305
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,560
Just sort of like fun facts.

1306
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:09,760
And this is a UK based website actually.

1307
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,240
So they've got some really cool pictures of it.

1308
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:17,080
So it grows in coniferous and deciduous forests.

1309
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:23,520
When young, it's a distinctive, deep purple color, but it's bright color fades with age and

1310
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,720
weathering making it difficult to identify.

1311
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,520
I guess that's pretty much what you already said.

1312
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,000
This is interesting though, but yeah.

1313
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,320
The color changes kind of like the with the philonym and shirt.

1314
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,320
Yeah.

1315
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,560
Maybe as he ages, he changes different to different colored shirts.

1316
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,560
I mean, maybe.

1317
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,600
It's a bit of a spewing nonsense at this point.

1318
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:49,720
Although edible, it looks similar to the poisonous lilac fiber cap.

1319
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:58,840
So now we know what it, like what it's poisonous, at least one of the poisonous counterparts,

1320
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,360
what that is and what it looks like.

1321
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,760
I don't know if you saw any pictures that show sort of the underside of the mushroom.

1322
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,200
That's where they call it like the gills.

1323
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,000
Oh, yeah, the gills.

1324
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,000
They're purple too.

1325
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:19,000
Because if you think of like that sort of traditional red toadish, it's like red on one

1326
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,400
side and then the underside is kind of a off white.

1327
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:28,480
This one, it's like a lighter purple on the underside maybe, but it's like the purple

1328
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,480
carries through like the whole mushroom.

1329
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,880
Like even the stem has a purple hue.

1330
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,040
It shows it in the little picture on the card.

1331
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,720
Like it shows the from under view and then it also shows like a top of a shorter one.

1332
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:47,240
So you could see like that little poke butthole that you were talking about all the time.

1333
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,520
They look so strange in some of these pictures.

1334
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:55,680
I'm going to send you this one because it's like the early, early stage.

1335
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:56,680
It's super cute.

1336
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,280
Oh, it's so cute.

1337
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,280
Yeah.

1338
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,080
It just looks so weird.

1339
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:08,560
It's like purple thing coming out of these brown leaves like the sticky wet dirty forest.

1340
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,520
Obviously it's not a very large mushroom.

1341
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:17,520
It's super tiny in that shop because it's like very, that looks like very beginning stages

1342
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,960
but it kind of looks like a dick.

1343
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,720
Not gonna lie.

1344
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,640
I found a couple of pictures where I was like that is legitimately a penis.

1345
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,560
Ah, penis mushrooms.

1346
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:28,560
Alright.

1347
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,800
So I'll let you get into it.

1348
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,400
Let's get into this card meaning here.

1349
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:41,200
It says the deceiver mushroom comes to let you know that things may not be what they seem.

1350
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,200
Okay.

1351
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:43,200
Okay.

1352
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,920
Say more because I kind of felt like that went without saying.

1353
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:53,240
But it's just interesting to like see it because he comes to you and like some people see

1354
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,880
him before like really like high-strangeness things happen.

1355
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:57,880
So yeah.

1356
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,880
Yeah.

1357
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,520
That was just interesting to me that's like the first sentence of this card.

1358
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:09,120
You may be seeing things the wrong way or there is deceit of some kind appearing before

1359
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,760
you.

1360
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,720
Not all deceit is bad.

1361
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,240
Oh, okay.

1362
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,800
It can be a blessing in disguise.

1363
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,880
It may not be a conscious thing.

1364
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,720
Are you deceiving yourself about something?

1365
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,880
Are you not allowing yourself to see what is right in front of you because you haven't

1366
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,160
taken the time to truly see it?

1367
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,160
Yeah.

1368
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,600
Like maybe if you wake up in the middle of the night and there's a man in flannel at the

1369
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:39,600
end of your bed and you snap your eyes back closed and just hope that it'll go away.

1370
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:40,600
Yeah.

1371
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:41,600
I mean, yeah.

1372
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,280
Usually he just like disappears though right in front of your eyes.

1373
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,600
So that's kind of interesting.

1374
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:46,600
I don't know.

1375
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,920
If you like weren't scared or anything and you just kept looking at him like would he

1376
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:51,920
stay?

1377
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1378
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,240
Stay there.

1379
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1380
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:57,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1381
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1382
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1383
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:00,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1384
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1385
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1386
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1387
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1388
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:05,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1389
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1390
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1391
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1392
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:09,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1393
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1394
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1395
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1396
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1397
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:14,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1398
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1399
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1400
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1401
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1402
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1403
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1404
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1405
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1406
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1407
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:24,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1408
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:25,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1409
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1410
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1411
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:28,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1412
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1413
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1414
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1415
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1416
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1417
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1418
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1419
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1420
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1421
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1422
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1423
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1424
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:41,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1425
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1426
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1427
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1428
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1429
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1430
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:47,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1431
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1432
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1433
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1434
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1435
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1436
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1437
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:54,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1438
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1439
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1440
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1441
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:58,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1442
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1443
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:00,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1444
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1445
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1446
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1447
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1448
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1449
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1450
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:07,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1451
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1452
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1453
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:10,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1454
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1455
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:12,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1456
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1457
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:14,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1458
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1459
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1460
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1461
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1462
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:19,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1463
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1464
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1465
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1466
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:23,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1467
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:24,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1468
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1469
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:26,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1470
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1471
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1472
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1473
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1474
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1475
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:32,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1476
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1477
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:34,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1478
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1479
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1480
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1481
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:38,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1482
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1483
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1484
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1485
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1486
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1487
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:44,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1488
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1489
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1490
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:47,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1491
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:48,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1492
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1493
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1494
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:51,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1495
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1496
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1497
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1498
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1499
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1500
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1501
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1502
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:00,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1503
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1504
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1505
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1506
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1507
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1508
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1509
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1510
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1511
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:09,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1512
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:10,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1513
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1514
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1515
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1516
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:14,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1517
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1518
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:16,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1519
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1520
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:18,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1521
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1522
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:20,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1523
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1524
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:22,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1525
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1526
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1527
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1528
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1529
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1530
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1531
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:29,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1532
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1533
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1534
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1535
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1536
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1537
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1538
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.

1539
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,240
Are we going to speak in riddles?

1540
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:41,240
Basically.

1541
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,240
Obviously.

1542
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:46,240
When things appear to be one thing, but are actually another,

1543
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,240
your intuition will know.

1544
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,240
Clearly, it does.

1545
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,240
Your intuition is your soul.

1546
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,240
I must say, soup, your soup compass.

1547
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,240
Your intuition is your soul compass.

1548
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,240
Trust it implicitly.

1549
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,240
Well, it is soup season as we briefly discussed earlier.

1550
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,240
You got to get muzzboone.

1551
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,240
Soup season.

1552
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,240
Soup season less cheers because we actually can without bumping shit.

1553
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:11,240
So smooth.

1554
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,240
Was it cute in the camera?

1555
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,240
I think so.

1556
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,240
You guys, was it cute?

1557
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:16,240
Was it cute?

1558
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,240
Look at us.

1559
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,240
Are we cute?

1560
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:19,240
If you don't think we are, don't tell us.

1561
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:20,240
Yeah, maybe just cute.

1562
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,240
Yeah, just cute.

1563
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:26,240
Sometimes assumptions are made about people or situations.

1564
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,240
And this can come from a limited understanding or lack of interest

1565
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,240
in really getting to know more.

1566
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,240
Take the time to really observe and research the situation

1567
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,240
until you are 100% sure of what you're looking at.

1568
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,240
Don't let looks be deceiving.

1569
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,240
Interesting.

1570
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:48,240
That is so interesting because of the fact that there is this other podcast

1571
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:52,240
totally diving deep and researching this whole thing, trying to figure out what it is.

1572
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:59,240
I went hardcore on listening to every single episode to go deep on this reason.

1573
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:00,240
I went deep on this research.

1574
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,240
I probably didn't really need to go that deep on, but I can't help it.

1575
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,240
Well, you were down the rabbit hole.

1576
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,240
Well, down the rabbit hole.

1577
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,240
That was a really good card for this one, I think.

1578
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,240
Yeah, it was.

1579
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:14,240
Good decision.

1580
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,240
Yeah.

1581
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:20,240
So weird that it brought up every single question and things that we were talking about.

1582
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,240
Yeah, it really did.

1583
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,240
Really did.

1584
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,240
Really did.

1585
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,240
I think we got what we needed from this one.

1586
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:27,240
Yeah, we did.

1587
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,240
Should we do the thing that we do?

1588
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:31,240
Yeah, probably.

1589
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:32,240
Okay.

1590
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,240
Have a previous day.

1591
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,240
We'll see you next Tuesday.

1592
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:38,240
We'll see you next Tuesday.

1593
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,240
We're in the forest.

1594
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,240
Or in your bedroom.

1595
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:42,240
Yeah.

1596
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,240
Standing by your bed, staring at you.

1597
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,240
Gichoflannel.

1598
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,240
Gichoflannel.

1599
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,240
Or your oversized European scarf.

1600
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:56,240
I wonder if wearing a panel would deter a panel man from showing up to you?

1601
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,240
He's like, oh, I'm already here.

1602
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:05,240
Or yeah, the deception thing, like seeing another mushroom that looks like you, but it's not.

1603
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,240
So I'm just going to take this and I'm just going to turn it into a night out.

1604
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,240
Yes, yes.

1605
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,240
You know, that's what this is now.

1606
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,240
Always sleep and flood from now on.

1607
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:15,240
Alrighty.

1608
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,240
We solved it.

1609
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,240
Did it.

1610
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,240
Asked and answered.

1611
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:21,240
Plenal man.

1612
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:29,240
Plenal man.

1613
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,240
What is it?

1614
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,240
It's fall, y'all.

1615
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,240
Oh, it's corn.

1616
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:34,240
It's corn.

1617
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,240
It's corn.

1618
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,240
It's a big lump of knobs and it does have the juice.

1619
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:39,240
It does have the juice.

1620
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:40,240
So funny.

1621
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:44,040
So at my job, there's like a puppy and she has this corn.

1622
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,600
It's like a giant rubber corn and just loves it.

1623
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,200
And every single time I see that fucking thing, I'm just like, it has the juice.

1624
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,200
I can't not say it.

1625
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,200
So anyway, no, you're not a monster.

1626
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,200
Corn is fall, beamed.

1627
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,200
Yeah.

1628
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,200
So that totally fits in with this episode.

1629
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:02,200
We don't have to cut it out.

1630
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,200
No, not at all. pnwhauntsandhomicides@.com