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I'm telling you because when I got past the closet, there was a shadow person attacking

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No, get out.

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You're not invited.

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This is extra creepy and everyone will see why later.

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I had no idea.

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I've never read this.

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I had no idea this was in here.

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Client!

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Um, I lost my spot.

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Oh my god.

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My brain hurts.

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I can't help but you really know.

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I'm so sorry.

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I can't.

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Hi, Caitlyn.

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Hi, Cassie.

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Hi, creepy people.

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Hello.

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This is... my brain broke.

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Do we say hello?

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Hello.

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Did we do that?

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Did we say hi, creepy people?

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Hello.

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This is my brain broke.

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Do we say hello?

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Hello.

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Do we say hello?

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Hello.

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Did we do that?

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Did we say hi, creepy people?

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My brain literally just broke.

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Yeah, it just broke.

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It, for sure, broke.

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I fixed it.

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She's sober.

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It's fine.

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I'm back.

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And if you're here and you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides,

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where we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all things spooky

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and the Pacific Northwest and sometimes other places.

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Also there.

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Yeah.

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And there and then sometimes there.

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You get the idea.

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Anyways, we also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode because we like it.

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We like it.

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And we feel like it gives us insight into our topic and we're going to keep doing it.

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Yeah, it really does.

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And also, Caitlyn has a sign behind her that says tarot and like we don't want to be liars.

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Yeah.

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Kind of hacked you.

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You have a sign behind you that says spooky.

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I don't want to be a liar about that.

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So it's always spooky.

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It's very spooky.

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Well, we actually have a Patreon if you didn't know.

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And we have people that join and there's different tiers and there's free trials.

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Oh, the free trials.

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And sometimes people join the free trial and then they actually sign up.

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And they're like, I don't want to cancel this.

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And they actually want to like give us, you know, a little change, a little money to help

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us along in our little passion project business.

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I kind of say passion project actually.

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It's a business.

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I mean, two things can be true.

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I feel like I said that 1800 times today.

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You know, I feel like me and the rest of the world were all just learning this.

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You know, we're getting used to this fact.

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Yeah, I feel like it takes a minute to wrap your head around it.

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Well, you know what else is true?

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What?

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We have a new Patreon at the $10 tier.

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That is the Never Bundy tier.

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It is.

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Thankfully people agree with us.

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Never Bundy.

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Chris, not Caitlyn's Chris.

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We have multiple Chris's.

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We do have multiple Chris's in the creepy world.

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It's not.

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It's almost like it's like a really good name.

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Yeah, like almost I would say one of the best names.

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It's up there.

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It starts with a C. His voice.

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That's right.

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I do feel like there's that.

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That's right.

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If your name starts with a C, you got, you got good things going for you.

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You're probably pretty cool.

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Pretty confident.

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Pretty courteous.

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Christmas-y?.

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Like that literally has Chris in it.

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Christmas-y Chris.

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Christmas-y Chris.

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Sorry if you don't celebrate Christmas.

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I apologize from the bottom of my heart.

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Like the depth is so shallow.

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All of a sudden it's like someone has canceled their Patreon membership.

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It's in their live streaming.

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He just felt it.

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He's like, oh, you made a Christmas joke.

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It's the war on Christmas.

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You know, that's the number one threat to this country. (Southern accent)

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Hilarious.

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You made that accent hilarious.

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It fits more than you ever know into this episode.

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Oh.

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I don't know how to feel about that.

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Because this is a creepy people Chronicles episode.

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So we read stories from our listeners and occasionally listen to stories from our listeners.

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And yeah, we'll get there.

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Well, that's enough of that.

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Let's start.

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Um, I actually want to start with a little story.

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It was something cute that happened at my great grandma Ruby's memorial service.

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Her name was Ruby.

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Yes, her name was Ruby.

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Cassie, I don't think you told me that.

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And isn't it the sweetest?

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Are you gonna cry?

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I mean, you cry already.

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I'm so sorry.

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That was, that was the name of my first pet.

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Oh, Ruby.

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And I cried.

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I cried.

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I cried.

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I cried when my goldfish.

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She was goldfish! 

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I'm so sorry.

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But you know, I had a very emotional connection with the bulls-well.

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Maybe this is her coming back to say "blub, blub."

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"blub, blub."

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I know where she's buried.

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No.

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I can go find her.

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Oh, she's fine.

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There anymore.

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Uh, sorry.

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Sorry, child, Caitlyn.

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Well, I mean, I don't expect like the entire goldfish to be the big fish.

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You know what we're getting?

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Just the teeny tiny bulls.

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So yes, my great grandma's name was Ruby.

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And that's my birthstone too.

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So like I always felt like, oh, we're cool.

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Because we have this little Ruby connection.

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So anyway, she did pass recently and she was 96 or 97, I think.

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She'll look at that.

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Fuck, I thought I wrote it down.

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Just say in our 90s.

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I mean, if you're in your 90s, you don't care about how old you are in the same way that

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like a six year old is like, I'm six and a quarter.

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It's actually kind of funny because like on one of her birthdays, she swore to everyone

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that she was like a year older.

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Oh, really?

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They were like, but you were born this year and it's this year in the math.

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And she's like, I don't know how it works out, but this is how old I am.

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She was so stubborn and spicy.

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So she was born in 27.

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So she was 97.

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After make a correction, I was using the year 2024 and not the year 2023 when I did my math.

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She was 96 because she had passed in 2023.

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So you know what?

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I just, I got you, great grandma Ruby.

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I'm on your side.

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I know how old you are.

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And I did forget to mention that she was born on St. Patrick's Day and at her memorial service,

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we got little Shamrock pins in honor of her because she just, she loved like St. Patrick's

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Day, everything Irish because she was born on that day.

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And so I did put the little pin on her alter today.

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So if you see the little little Shamrock pin that is in honor of my great grandma Ruby.

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So yes.

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It's crazy.

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So yes, it's crazy that I had like a great grandma my whole life.

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I always thought it.

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Everyone was like great grandma.

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So it's pretty cool.

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It's cool.

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She had a lot of stories.

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Oh my gosh.

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I can imagine.

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I can imagine.

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She was very spicy.

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She was very well known in her nursing home.

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I'll just put it that way.

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So at her memorial, they were up there talking and we were at a very beautiful summer.

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I can't remember the name off the top of my head.

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So the service was in like a brick enclosure, but we were like outside and then behind the

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speaker, there was a window like didn't help me get out of glass.

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No, I had to.

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I think I had glass.

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There was like a window.

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So you could see trees and nature and shit behind.

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Oh, that's cool.

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So I was staring out at the trees and then I saw this giant ass fucking bird.

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Like, whoo, whoo, like land on a branch and it like did this like all dramatic thing.

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And I'm like, look, does it?

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I don't know if anyone else saw it.

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But I kind of a bird.

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First I was like, is that an owl?

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Because it was kind of far away.

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I wasn't really sure.

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I was like, is that a hole?

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And then it like took off again.

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So it's giant wings and underneath have like white underneath.

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So it's like, I don't know if it was a hawk.

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It could have been a hawk.

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Those are super common.

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Around.

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I didn't like get a good look at the shape of it.

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The way it had landed was like backwards.

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So I don't really get the get a good look at the shape.

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Yeah, like a look at it from like, kind of back.

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I think it was a hawk just from seeing so many.

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And I know I think they have like white under their wings.

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I think I went and looked it up.

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Big ass bird either way.

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I don't think it was an eagle.

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No, I would have known by the head if it was a eagle.

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There are two.

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Yeah.

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And they're really big.

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Those are also.

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It was a really big bird.

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No hawks are.

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I was going to say, I didn't disagree with you.

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I'm not super familiar with a ton of different birds.

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But yeah, the way you're describing it, that sounds like a hawk to me and to look at

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like different images of different breeds, I guess, of hawks.

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Like I would say, yeah, that's a fair guess.

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They're more common to see than an owl too.

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And it would be probably weird for an owl to be flying around it like noon.

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Yeah.

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I agree.

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But it was really cool.

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And so I was just kept looking out there like, did I really see that?

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Like it's in the middle of this memorial.

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It was like this giant-ass bird like doing shenanigans in the tree.

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And I don't know, it was interesting.

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And then I remembered I had just heard on a podcast earlier that week that it was like

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a psychic podcast.

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Yeah.

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And she was saying how she'd always thought that like hawks were messages from the other

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side.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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So I thought that thought it was pretty cool.

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And I think I wanted my great grandma send a little hawk down to say hi to everyone.

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That's interesting because, okay, I'm checking something really quick.

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Okay.

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So it's not just hawks.

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Oh, there's, I mean like every animal is like-

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No.

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Specifically, it said that birds are messengers from the spirit world.

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Yeah.

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And may even be the physical manifestation of angels.

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I don't know if you look that up at all, but-

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I didn't really look into it.

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I just know that like so many things are like messages from the other side.

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This really makes me want to look up our- our bird.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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So I'll have to look at that later.

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But it says specifically, this is interesting hawk.

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So they have like different meanings.

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Hawks, their supposed meaning is for- it says for vision and acuity.

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Mm.

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Which makes me think that like that is a really good way.

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Sending a hawk is like a really good way of someone who has passed on.

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For them to say, I've got my eye on you.

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I'm still watching over you.

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Well, I mean, obviously that was my next sentence.

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Shut up.

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Well, of course.

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No way.

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But yeah.

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Oh, it was like well hawks are like, you know, known for like being able to like see from above

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and like, maybe it's just that they're watching out from above, you know?

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And I was like, let me Google something and just like completely separate from this situation.

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Let me just find this like sort of metaphysical meaning and like let me be the one to say it.

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Because it's all about me.

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No, it's perfect.

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It's like, I just like, I don't know why I didn't look it up probably because I-

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That's so crazy though.

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I just like had my own meaning and so I didn't really look it up.

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But if it means that for you sort of intuitively.

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Yeah, it's affirming.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, I thought it was really cute.

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We were like, we went to see her pretty much every summer growing up.

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But then like obviously once I got into adult, we didn't visit very often until recently,

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like right before she passed.

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I think I talked about my visit.

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We did have like a weird spooky thing happen while we were there.

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And Grace had like such a great trip.

324
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Yeah.

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What I remember.

326
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It was really good.

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It was fun having like girl time with all with the fam.

328
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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But we weren't like super close growing up.

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So it was just nice to know like maybe, you know, she, and by the time I had visited her,

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she wasn't really talking much.

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We weren't sure if she actually knew who we were.

334
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Yeah.

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So it's nice.

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And then we have a story in our email from Clint.

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You remember Clint?

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I forgot.

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Clint sent us another story to read.

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Get out of here.

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Naturally I haven't ready yet.

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So I don't know what it says.

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Oh boy.

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Are you ready?

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I'm as ready as I'm going to be.

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All the way from Canadian.

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Yes.

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Hi Caitlin and Cassie.

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Hi.

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Hi Clint.

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Another C.

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That's right.

353
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All the C's.

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I'm just saying.

355
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We're just collecting creepy C people.

356
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It's fine.

357
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Yeah.

358
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Everyone who's listening who isn't a C name just change your names like not that hard.

359
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Or how about also we love you equally.

360
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Yeah, we love you whatever, whatever, whatever, however.

361
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I like how I'm the one giving off the mom energy in this.

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Like the least mom of all the mom being capable people.

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This is your circus and we are your monkeys.

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I guess.

365
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Double tie a new or alter later.

366
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Oh boy.

367
00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:44,280
Clint says since my last email you're still one of my three favorite podcasts and I have

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taken up tarot cards.

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That's awesome.

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Clint, I love that.

371
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That's one of the three.

372
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Who are the other two?

373
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I know.

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Well, they're really like really fucking awesome.

375
00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,440
Yeah.

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No.

377
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No competition.

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No.

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But we're like top from the three, right?

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But like if we sent you a deck of tarot cards, can we buy you?

381
00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,680
Tarot has really changed my life because of you.

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So thank you.

383
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I've been telling everyone about your podcast.

384
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And I saw more of my vision.

385
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Sorry I can't tell you about that.

386
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Oh, that's okay.

387
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Oh, I'm just like rereading.

388
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She's pre-reading.

389
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No, I'm rereading where it said tarot really changed my life because of you and I'm just

390
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really like holding onto that.

391
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I really want everyone in the world to do tarot.

392
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I really feel like that's our goal.

393
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Yeah.

394
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And also listen to True Crime.

395
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And unless you're a True Crime-er, unless you are the one doing the True Crime, don't listen

396
00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,840
to it because we don't have any tips.

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Unless it's going to make you not want to do it because you don't want to end up on a

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show.

399
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Oh, maybe that.

400
00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,200
Yeah.

401
00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,200
It's like two totally like sort of a dexter situation, right?

402
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Like something sets you on a path where you don't want to.

403
00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,760
Right.

404
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I hope so.

405
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But we can offer the world.

406
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I like that.

407
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Tarot and turning killers off because we're annoying.

408
00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,160
But I can tell you about another dream I had.

409
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This one won't make you cry.

410
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Okay.

411
00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,160
Okay.

412
00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,160
We'll challenge accepted.

413
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Maybe laugh a little bit like I did.

414
00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:37,760
What if we laugh until we cry?

415
00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,080
That would be on brand.

416
00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,080
Oh, okay.

417
00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,440
Well, this gets intense real quick, so let me like, but you said it was funny but okay.

418
00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,040
And why would you lie to us?

419
00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,560
Clint, you're messing with my emotions.

420
00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,800
Seriously.

421
00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,680
It started with me watching my own funeral.

422
00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,000
That's like yikes.

423
00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,480
The thought of Clint watching his own funeral.

424
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,480
It like hurts my heart a little bit.

425
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,480
Yeah.

426
00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,480
Yeah.

427
00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:13,400
And I'm physically unable to go to the place where I envision me envisioning my own

428
00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,400
funeral.

429
00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,600
No, we're just going to focus on Clint right now.

430
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,600
Clint, no.

431
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:19,600
Clint.

432
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,600
Okay.

433
00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,920
Do you want, I had a vision of your funeral.

434
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,840
I have no idea what it was like, but in my vision just now snap vision.

435
00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:31,040
It was like Doby's funeral from Harry Potter.

436
00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,040
And that's the saddest thing I've ever seen of my time.

437
00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,040
Oh.

438
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,040
Friend...

439
00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,040
Friend...

440
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,040
Okay.

441
00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,040
Okay.

442
00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,040
Oh, my God.

443
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,040
Okay.

444
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,040
Oh, my God.

445
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,520
You said we weren't going to cry.

446
00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,840
Why would you lie to us?

447
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,360
We literally did it to ourselves.

448
00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:51,360
Yeah.

449
00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:52,360
Okay.

450
00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:56,320
So it started with me watching my own funeral.

451
00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,120
Then I'm walking around my house, checking on my family.

452
00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:04,640
When I go, you said we were going to cry.

453
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,760
When I go into see my wife, I see her sleeping.

454
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,640
Well description of my room, you enter through the door.

455
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,160
There's a wall on the right and a short wall on the left.

456
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That's closest.

457
00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:21,640
Then you see my bed.

458
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:27,880
And telling you, because when I got past the closet, there was a shadow person attacking

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my wife.

460
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,480
No, get out.

461
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:35,480
You're not invited.

462
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:41,640
This is extra creepy and everyone will see why later.

463
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I had no idea.

464
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,640
I've never read this.

465
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I had no idea this was in here.

466
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:46,680
Clint.

467
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I lost my spot.

468
00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:51,120
Oh, my God.

469
00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:52,120
My brain hurts.

470
00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:53,120
This is so creepy.

471
00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:54,120
I'm so sorry.

472
00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:55,120
I can't.

473
00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:56,120
I can't.

474
00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:57,220
Okay.

475
00:19:57,220 --> 00:20:00,080
I grabbed him.

476
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,600
We start wrestling.

477
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:07,040
He bounced off the dresser and then fell through the bedside table as I'm punching the shadow

478
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,440
person.

479
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,000
I noticed Heather.

480
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,080
I guess that's his wife.

481
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,240
Heather woke up and was watching us.

482
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,440
Then I saw my daughter watching us.

483
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:25,240
That's when a portal opened a couple more shadow people grabbed me.

484
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,800
This is crazy.

485
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,320
They were dragging me towards the portal.

486
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:38,560
I looked at my daughter, blue her a kiss.

487
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,480
Clint, God damn it.

488
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,480
You lied.

489
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,080
Clint, we're mad at you now.

490
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,760
I think you underestimated her.

491
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,760
My all emotional.

492
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,160
She's reading ahead and I can tell her already based on her.

493
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,560
We're emotionally fragile.

494
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:54,560
I can't face.

495
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,560
Clint.

496
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,560
Clint.

497
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,560
Okay.

498
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,520
I looked at my daughter, blue her a kiss.

499
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:05,440
I looked at my left arm across my chest and over my right arm and that's how I would give

500
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,440
her kisses.

501
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,000
I would give her kisses and hugs.

502
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,480
Oh my God.

503
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,480
Seriously.

504
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,920
I literally can't fucking read this.

505
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,440
This is how I would give her kisses and hugs when she went on the school bus when she was

506
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,440
younger.

507
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:25,320
I literally thought like you were going to be dragged away and you're like saying you're

508
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:32,320
going to be dragged away and you're going to be dragged away and you're going to be dragged.

509
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,560
I think I just hit a new lock.

510
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,760
I'm like waiting for the slapping part, Clint.

511
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,680
Where does it get funny Clint?

512
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,680
Okay.

513
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,480
Then I said play time.

514
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,080
Oh, wait, what?

515
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,320
Then I said play time is open.

516
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:57,320
I said play time is open.

517
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,320
That's what I thought.

518
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,560
Then I said play time as I was laughing.

519
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,600
I let the shadow people take me through the portal and that's when I woke up and laughed

520
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,600
again.

521
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,920
Question.

522
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:19,520
Do you think it's possible that the shadow people only exist in our minds or do I get

523
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,920
play time after?

524
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,920
Or do I get play time after I'm dead?

525
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,160
Please feel free to share with your listeners.

526
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,160
Take care of me.

527
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,160
Safe.

528
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,160
A fan of yours, Clint.

529
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,160
Okay.

530
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:43,920
So I have to say immediately my impression is like the fact that he says play time and he's

531
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,360
like kind of laughing, right?

532
00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:58,360
As he is sort of, I don't know, collapsing into this portal, that makes me think in a way

533
00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:06,360
he's like, this is like, I don't know how else to put it other than play time.

534
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:08,040
This is play time.

535
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:15,160
I just distracted you from my family who are amongst the living and I saved them and

536
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,880
it's like the biggest.

537
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:22,360
It's almost like I'm jumping in this portal with a bomb.

538
00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:25,080
Like, "Haha, motherfuckers, you're going to take me out.

539
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,960
I'm going to take you with me."

540
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,200
Right.

541
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:35,600
That's how like just this overwhelming sense of like you won and they lost.

542
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,600
I don't know.

543
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,200
How else to describe that?

544
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,480
That's just the, I don't know.

545
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,760
I can't interpret it any other way in my mind.

546
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:51,160
I've been racking my brain in the last like a couple of minutes trying to think of this in

547
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:57,640
another lens or in another way and it's the only way I can like, you like it makes sense

548
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,640
to me.

549
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,760
That was kind of like what I was thinking at first but then until he said I woke up and

550
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:12,720
laughed again and then I was thinking like what if the portal was like his mind waking up

551
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,760
and the things were like trying to get to him like before he woke up and then he like

552
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,560
noticed he was waking up and he's like, "Haha motherfuckers, let's go and I'm bringing you

553
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:28,960
into my waking world and I'm going to beat you because it's daylight bitches, ain't no shadows

554
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,200
here."

555
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:38,160
That's an interesting like kind of still has the same impact though, right?

556
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,200
Because it's like, "Listen, you won.

557
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,640
They lost by it."

558
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,920
It is crazy though because it's like such a layered dream like going back to the beginning.

559
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,640
He is dead.

560
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:55,640
He's at his own funeral and then he's going around to try to like check on his family and

561
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:02,400
that's when he sees the shadow people but then it's like then his daughter can see him.

562
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:08,640
Yeah, I feel like it's really interesting because it seems like at a certain point once he's

563
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:17,720
battling with the shadow people, both his wife and his daughter seem to like even in a nonverbal

564
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:23,880
way, he communicates that like it seems as though they can see him.

565
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,880
Yeah.

566
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,360
And I don't know, that's really odd to me as well but I just feel like this is like inception

567
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:31,360
level.

568
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:32,360
Yeah, it is.

569
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:33,360
You know?

570
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:36,120
Gosh, and then awake of laughing.

571
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,720
I know, I'm not even imagining.

572
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,160
I have woken up.

573
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,160
I don't know.

574
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,080
Maybe laughing like maybe once or twice.

575
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,600
Crying, I'm probably a few times.

576
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,160
Yeah.

577
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,600
I feel like I've jolted away.

578
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,600
Yeah.

579
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:58,200
And even, yeah, just not even in an audible way.

580
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,200
Yeah.

581
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:06,200
I feel like more often than not because you know me, I'm just like this very like you emotions

582
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:14,920
and just feeling anything is so in a way like foreign to me.

583
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,920
Yeah.

584
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,480
It makes me sound like a robot but like if the shoe fits.

585
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,480
I don't know.

586
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:29,720
I feel like more than anything, I just wake up feeling like I'm jolted but it's inaudible

587
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:38,240
because I have this innate sense of like wanting to sort of like let up, quiet it down.

588
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,240
You know what I mean?

589
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,640
Like use your inside voice.

590
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,640
Yeah.

591
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:49,320
Like I've just woken up from a nightmare potentially and I'm like even in your sleep,

592
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,920
your sleeping sleepy state.

593
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:57,920
Listen, you don't stop being somebody who was raised by depression, Arab Midwesterners

594
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,360
just because you're sleeping because that's foolish.

595
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:02,360
Yeah.

596
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:03,360
Sleepiness for the day head.

597
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:04,360
You got to sleep with.

598
00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:10,440
Which was southern and you know we go back and forth.

599
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,440
Sleep with one eye open.

600
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:18,240
Or like both your eyes open but like only a little bit like a weirdo.

601
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:24,520
So I know I've told you and I think I've said this on a show but I don't breathe right.

602
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,520
Right.

603
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,520
Yeah.

604
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,520
Okay.

605
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,560
And no one seemed that surprised and I was like well thanks the fucking lot you guys.

606
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:39,200
Apparently I can't do anything right but literally apparently I can't because I also don't

607
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,200
link right.

608
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,200
Yeah.

609
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,200
I don't like that.

610
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,200
I think I've told you that.

611
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,200
Yeah.

612
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,200
But I don't know that we've ever talked about it on the show.

613
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,200
I don't know.

614
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,880
So I literally sleep kind of with both of my eyes a little bit open.

615
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,280
I don't even during daylight I don't even blink correctly.

616
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,280
No, God.

617
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,520
My eye doctor has watched this.

618
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,920
He has observed me blinking incorrectly.

619
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:12,360
It's like why you should take some fish while but also you don't blink right so that's

620
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:13,840
why your eyes will dry.

621
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,640
You should take some fish oil.

622
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,640
Yeah.

623
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:24,280
Okay, that'd be so great if I could just not have everything all of the bodily functions

624
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,440
that just I don't do them right.

625
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,920
You're just you're not not doing them wrong.

626
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,320
You're just dancing to the beat of your own drum.

627
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,120
You know, you're just doing a little different.

628
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:37,120
Yeah.

629
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:38,120
Doesn't meet it's wrong.

630
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,680
Anxiety is how I identify.

631
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,280
I'm just people don't blink completely anxious people don't breathe deeply.

632
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,640
This is where we are.

633
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,640
Yeah.

634
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,000
They also don't poop.

635
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,400
They also don't poop.

636
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,400
That's correct.

637
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,600
Thank you for reminding me.

638
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,600
You're welcome.

639
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaking of a Southern accent.

640
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:10,040
We had a I do too and I always call it a country accent for some stupid reason because I'm

641
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,000
not that smart.

642
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:20,040
And we have this like she's the dumbest person she or anyone else has ever known and that's

643
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,040
far from the truth.

644
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,880
The dumbest memory.

645
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,320
You guys we have something really exciting to share with you.

646
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,480
Let's hear a few words from our new pod besties.

647
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,440
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648
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,120
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649
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,360
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650
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,360
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651
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,200
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652
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,760
We're also lifelong friends and on our Killer Destinations podcast we tell the best stories

653
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,960
and dive deep for all the interesting details.

654
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,480
We also interspersicational humor and have a little fun along the way but we never forget

655
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,920
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656
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:13,400
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657
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:19,880
Check them out creepy people you can find their info in our show notes.

658
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:29,720
Well we got a story in the form of audio messages from a listener named Nick and you know

659
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,480
he just like slipped us a couple little spooky story.

660
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,880
He slipped us a spooky if you will.

661
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,880
Stop it.

662
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,880
Stop it.

663
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:46,360
So I have some audios to play for you of a spooky story and then if we we can play some

664
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,680
and then pause and discuss as necessary.

665
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:59,720
And you'll quickly see why I deeply apologize to this listener for all of the terrible

666
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,600
Southern accents I have ever done.

667
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,200
Oh my god.

668
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,200
This is why I don't breathe right.

669
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Okay.

670
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,200
Apparently they don't mind because they sent us a story.

671
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:21,480
Okay so the story goes as an early child I always had a very uneasy feeling, living in

672
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:30,680
the woods in Tennessee, miles away from any neighbors or anyone just nothing but wildlife.

673
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:37,100
There were a lot of very dark and ominous feelings just that kind of overwhelming sense of

674
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,840
something is not right here.

675
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:49,320
And while you know doing simple stuff like riding three-wheelers through the woods or getting

676
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,760
up and just getting something to drink in the mouth of the night you would always feel like

677
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,960
someone was watching.

678
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,840
And then it got to the point where I was able to see them.

679
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:08,080
It was like at first it was just kind of like distortions and I wouldn't really pay no

680
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,080
attention to it.

681
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,520
Look away real quick do something else.

682
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,880
Whatever I was finished what I was doing.

683
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:19,640
And then I would pay more attention eventually when the feeling came too creepy and started

684
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:25,360
seeing the shadows of people or two people in particular.

685
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Okay so shadowy people interesting.

686
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Shadowy people.

687
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,240
And then we just talked about this in the last story.

688
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,240
I know Clio.

689
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,440
I don't.

690
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Also Tennessee sounds creepy.

691
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:58,960
You know wow I just don't know I don't know about that.

692
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,680
It's got to be pretty humid right?

693
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,160
Should have tied it off.

694
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,160
Real humid tons of bugs.

695
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,240
Yeah bugs I was thinking bugs severely haunted place.

696
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,280
Also you can hear in the audio you can hear like birds and stuff.

697
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,440
Oh God.

698
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,720
I was wondering if that's what I was hearing.

699
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,560
Yeah you can hear birds in the audio.

700
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,520
So cute hopefully it transfers into that final.

701
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,920
Okay let's replay or play more.

702
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,920
Play on.

703
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:27,920
Play on.

704
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:35,880
They would pace back and forth along my walls in my room.

705
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,120
They have been seen by other people.

706
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,440
It would always be that overwhelming feeling like they were about to balance it anytime.

707
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,400
And you could fill the intention.

708
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,680
Like that's hard when described.

709
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,160
You could almost have a psychic link with these things and know what they're thinking.

710
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,160
And they don't have to say anything and it just didn't feel good.

711
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,160
All right.

712
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,520
Please don't say anything.

713
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,920
I wonder okay Clint you'll have to tell us like did you do you have like some sort of psychic

714
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,520
link with these.

715
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,800
I mean I know it was in a dream but like could you tell what they were thinking and stuff.

716
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,360
You'll have to tell us okay.

717
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,520
Did you have any commentary?

718
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,360
Oh I was just just please don't say anything.

719
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,360
I don't want it.

720
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,360
I don't it doesn't need to speak.

721
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,080
I'm just going to go ahead and move on.

722
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,080
It doesn't need to speak the shadow person.

723
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600
Nothing nothing should speak.

724
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,600
No no one.

725
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,680
No testimony needed.

726
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,480
Dismissed.

727
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,080
They followed me around until I was about 18 or 19 years old.

728
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,880
I joined the military.

729
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,560
Went out of Tennessee into a different state.

730
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,960
Some weird things happened in boot camp.

731
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:02,000
Or a couple of bunks and empty barracks got bent overnight after filling that same filling

732
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,160
I would fill throughout my entire life.

733
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:15,080
I'll get back home and nothing ever happens again until I'm like last year or the year before.

734
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,920
I saw what felt like was the shadow person against my wall and I felt that uneasy filling

735
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,920
again.

736
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,920
No.

737
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,920
No.

738
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,400
Okay so I was like oh okay so they went away and there was like until.

739
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:37,400
So what happens now you just like still see them and feel weird as anything else happened?

740
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,400
No.

741
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,400
No.

742
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,400
Nothing else happened.

743
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,400
Well there's another story.

744
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,960
I was doing the military to make that stop as well.

745
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,960
That didn't even work.

746
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,760
There was bent up bunks.

747
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,480
That's what he said right.

748
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,800
The bunks are bent.

749
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,040
That was probably a government experiment.

750
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,040
Right.

751
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,040
Yeah.

752
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:05,360
I was thinking like like a really big magnet they were like how big of a magnet will be

753
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,360
need.

754
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:12,200
I was just thinking maybe they just fell apart because they're probably like update things

755
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,200
that often there in the military.

756
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,720
That feels valid as well.

757
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:20,320
They just broke their big dudes.

758
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,960
I just that's what I want to think not to not say I don't believe you or something but

759
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,960
I just trying to make it feel better.

760
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,640
Yeah we really want to rationalize this.

761
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,640
Yeah.

762
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,640
But we can't.

763
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,920
Also the next story it's like just a tiny bit worse and scarier.

764
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:39,920
Great.

765
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,920
Yeah.

766
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,920
I can't wait.

767
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:42,920
Oh wait I can.

768
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,680
Do you have anything else you want to talk about?

769
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,680
About them shoes.

770
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:54,920
I can't think of anything Taylor's.

771
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,920
Okay.

772
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,920
Okay.

773
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,920
Okay.

774
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,760
So next one I'm going to cut out the very beginning because he says names and I don't want

775
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,760
to include the names.

776
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,360
He is saying that he lives with his girlfriend and his kids.

777
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:14,240
We embodied some friends over creepy friends and we played court games and chess and video

778
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,640
games and all that.

779
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,480
Hey, oh creepy friends.

780
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,640
Were your card games, tarot cards?

781
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,960
Come on.

782
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,960
We know they were.

783
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,960
Maybe Oracle.

784
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,680
You're feeling nasty.

785
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:32,160
The thing of the day we decided to all sit down and do the Ouija board.

786
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,160
Oh okay.

787
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:44,040
Now she really wanted the Ouija board to work and she was really upset because as always

788
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,280
the Ouija board never worked for her.

789
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,280
Where?

790
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,240
So I started making fun of demons and calling them out.

791
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:53,240
Okay.

792
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:54,240
Zach Baggins.

793
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:57,240
Pretty much making everyone uncomfortable trying to give something to happen.

794
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:58,240
Oh no.

795
00:37:58,240 --> 00:37:59,240
And of course nothing happened.

796
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:03,040
I know that the candle didn't blow out on its own.

797
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,320
Don't entice the demons.

798
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,920
I think by entice you mean antagonize.

799
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:10,920
Integanize, yeah.

800
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,680
Well the same thing.

801
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,320
But yes antagonize is what I meant.

802
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,720
That was the correct word.

803
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:16,720
Well okay.

804
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:23,240
So I feel like part of you wanted to be nice and entice like you're like, "Can we all

805
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:24,240
demon?"

806
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:25,240
We're all demon.

807
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:26,740
Well demon, demon.

808
00:38:26,740 --> 00:38:32,240
I feel like that was more like, "Can we all know stupid demon?"

809
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:33,240
I don't know.

810
00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:34,240
I don't know.

811
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:38,240
Well let's see what happens.

812
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,240
Ouija board.

813
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:48,400
Eventually our friends left and everything was fine until we were about to go to sleep and

814
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,000
we heard a really loud crash in the kitchen.

815
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,160
And it was on the front end of the kitchen table.

816
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:04,360
There was a show along the wall that had a bunch of her family heirlooms from the idling.

817
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,200
And it went flying across the kitchen.

818
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,720
I say flying across the kitchen but instead of falling straight down it went all the way

819
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:17,400
to the kitchen of Ireland like it had been thrown off the wall and all that stuff had shattered.

820
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:25,760
A day passes and I get really really sick.

821
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:32,680
And I chalk it up to a fever dream but it felt like so much more.

822
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,480
I remember falling asleep on the couch.

823
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,400
I don't remember falling asleep but I remember rolling over and looking in the middle of the

824
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,800
floor and there was a coffin.

825
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:47,920
I was open and you could see a fetid core.

826
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:54,120
I mean just completely disgusting, oozy body decomposed.

827
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,600
I mean you know not a fresh corpse.

828
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,560
It was weeks old.

829
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,560
It was there.

830
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,440
I remember getting off the couch and wondering why.

831
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,280
My girlfriend and all the kids couldn't see it.

832
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:15,000
And keep in mind everything that's going on in real life is also having my dream like.

833
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,280
She was sitting there on her phone watching TV on the chair and that's what was happening.

834
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Kids were doing their thing back and forth but it was so vivid and so real.

835
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,720
And then all of a sudden the corpse rose up out of the coffin and started to crawl down

836
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:33,720
my mouth.

837
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:40,800
I jumped up off the couch and busted through the door and started throwing up trying to

838
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,800
expel what still felt like something was trying to crawl down my throat.

839
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,800
Oh my God.

840
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,320
Yeah.

841
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:56,360
The oozy corpse trying to crawl down his throat.

842
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,360
Oh my God.

843
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,360
You're making Kalen puke congratulations.

844
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,360
Oh my God.

845
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,120
That is.

846
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,360
I'd forgotten that that one had a user's like a woman.

847
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,360
Get her the call.

848
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,360
I'm not going to throw up.

849
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,360
I'm not going.

850
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:23,160
I feel like I want to throw up because I can like physically feel how just I have to I

851
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,160
can't.

852
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,680
I'll let you go ahead.

853
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:32,560
I can I can feel that in a way that I just.

854
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,560
Yeah.

855
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,640
It's I don't like that.

856
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,640
I can either.

857
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:42,040
I can completely like visualize that.

858
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,360
I really hate it.

859
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,360
I really hate it.

860
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,360
I feel like I'm feeling it.

861
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,160
It's in your throat.

862
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Yeah.

863
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,160
Yeah.

864
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,600
It feels like your throat's like closing up and you're like listening to a story like that.

865
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,160
Oh my God.

866
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:04,520
So I had forgotten obviously I did listen to those audios before playing them and I did

867
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:13,120
not remember really that there was like a coffin aspect to this story and and then like

868
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,080
Clint's story is like he's at his funeral.

869
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,080
Oh my God.

870
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,840
And then like and the shadow people.

871
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:26,720
I did not even make that connection and so obvious that's really embarrassing.

872
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:29,560
Ms. Cole would be it's not please.

873
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,360
Oh my gosh.

874
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,640
I'm like really good at making connections.

875
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:40,440
I you know a lot of times I am and then sometimes we're a little.

876
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,280
Hey, you're disturbed over there.

877
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:53,000
I yeah, anything that like gives me the heave-jeebies really just sets my brain off in a different

878
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000
direction.

879
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,840
Consider me heaved and jeezed.

880
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,160
I just like what was skimming Clint's story.

881
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:08,680
I got just to see like if there was anything else.

882
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,200
In there that would.

883
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,200
They were trying to grab him and take him through the portal.

884
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,280
Also I guess we didn't really answer your question.

885
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,640
Do you think it's?

886
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,520
No we didn't really do you think it's possible that shadow people only exist in our minds

887
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,720
or do you or do I get play time after I'm dead.

888
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:38,360
I don't know why like the I feel like they're two separate questions like I think shadow

889
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:46,080
people exist in your mind and are like possibly also in the world.

890
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,360
They can two things can be true.

891
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:53,640
Are we sure thing?

892
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,920
And also if it's in your mind it doesn't mean it's not real either.

893
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,920
That's true.

894
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,880
It's just as real unless you are obviously like if you have schizophrenia and you're dealing

895
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,800
with mental illness.

896
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,280
But those things are so very real to them.

897
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,200
Yeah I was just going to say that's very real to them.

898
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,160
You should take the advice of whatever they're saying to you.

899
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,960
Does it mean it's not like real to you though.

900
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,960
Anyway.

901
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:26,680
I do I feel like enough people experience that but that feels very real to me.

902
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:35,720
And if you want my opinion I think you get plenty of play time after you transition.

903
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:37,720
I don't like to say transition.

904
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:38,720
In transition.

905
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,200
In to the next world.

906
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,200
The next life.

907
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,680
I don't know.

908
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:48,520
I like to think that shadow people can like take you into the other life.

909
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,640
I don't know.

910
00:44:50,640 --> 00:45:00,960
Yeah I think for the most part a lot of a lot of what we think of as being sort of of

911
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,400
the afterlife and sort of of a paranormal realm.

912
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:15,480
I really think that it has almost as much power as we give it in a way.

913
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,960
Which is I mean it's unfortunate for me.

914
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:30,600
But I do things that you know I think that a lot of it's real and we're experiencing certain

915
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,920
things.

916
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:40,880
But I do think also at the same time I do think there's a lot of it that really do believe

917
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:46,040
that regardless of how awful it feels.

918
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:53,680
I don't think that they can cause us harm in the way that we understand.

919
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,960
Not physical harm.

920
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,360
Not in the way that our brains understand at least.

921
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,360
Yeah.

922
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,840
I just got real hippy-dippy.

923
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:11,440
But I do think though that there's a lot of things that they might be able to be present

924
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,920
or visible to you.

925
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:19,840
I do think there's probably a lot of things that even if they can touch you I don't think

926
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,080
that they can hurt you.

927
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,520
And maybe unless you want them to.

928
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:32,160
You know I feel like if you're making like a TV show and you want the drama like in your

929
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,360
like a single bite to fake in it.

930
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:41,480
Well I'm just saying like if you're that type of person who wants to go into like a scary

931
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,640
place and think that you and like want bad things to happen to you so that it's like

932
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,120
evident that there's things there you're going to get in.

933
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,880
I didn't come up with this concept.

934
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,680
I've heard it many places.

935
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,680
Yeah.

936
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,680
Like it's just it's about how you go into it.

937
00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,680
Yeah.

938
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:06,320
Yeah because I do think that there are places that we visited and I certainly went into it

939
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:12,440
feeling like oh shit I don't know if I should be here and knowing that I'm sensitive and

940
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:20,520
then it's actually been a more positive than negative experience even if there is a lot

941
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,840
of intense energy.

942
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,840
Yeah.

943
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,840
Because that's how we felt about man race.

944
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:33,320
I really did feel like there's a lot of intense energy that there is.

945
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:39,800
And I felt a little bit overwhelmed and I was definitely like I was ready to leave when

946
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,280
we left.

947
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,680
I wasn't.

948
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,680
I know.

949
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:51,160
You know I don't know maybe I'm a spiritual introvert.

950
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:58,120
But I felt very overwhelmed at the end of that experience because it was very intense.

951
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:06,120
But I didn't ever really feel like there was anything that gave me cause for concern in

952
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,600
the sense of I would come to harm.

953
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,600
Yeah.

954
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:16,720
And again, you know these are you know I'm basing this on my experience and I can't.

955
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:21,640
I certainly I know that it's not the same for everyone and that's not the same experience

956
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,800
that I've had in every place.

957
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:33,120
But I really do feel like in the vast majority of situations and circumstances, I do think

958
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:38,800
that I don't think those things can hurt us.

959
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:39,800
Not really.

960
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,640
I kind of agree.

961
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,800
Maybe I maybe I want to believe that.

962
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,680
Well, but you keep on wanting to believe that cause that will protect you.

963
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:48,680
I believe.

964
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Manifestation.

965
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,160
Oh man.

966
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,800
So what do we think about this?

967
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,760
I mean, we don't have to go back to the dream.

968
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,920
Obviously that was crazy and intense.

969
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:06,440
But do you think who's being possessed or something like the I feel like something trying

970
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:13,240
to come out, someone trying to climb down your throat and get into your body is like

971
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:16,760
a sign of like possession, right?

972
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,560
I mean, it didn't get in because he threw it up.

973
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:28,600
Yeah, I feel like that to me reads us something that might have been an attempt.

974
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,600
Yeah.

975
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:37,720
But I think I don't know, I just keep going back to that it's like was somebody who's

976
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:46,160
sensitive and they have an awareness and a healthy fear of things that they don't understand.

977
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,840
I just feel like you're going to have a hell of a time inhabiting that person.

978
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:51,840
Yeah.

979
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,440
Maybe that's what I want to believe.

980
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,680
But yeah, I don't know.

981
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,640
I don't think so.

982
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,240
To me that doesn't read as somebody who has been possessed.

983
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:03,720
Oh, yeah, no, I don't think.

984
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:04,720
I don't think.

985
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:05,720
Currently.

986
00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:07,720
It is possessed.

987
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:08,720
I wouldn't think so.

988
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:10,200
I wouldn't think so.

989
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,160
It just seems like demons got mad.

990
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:18,200
They were being called out in tight, antagonized.

991
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,200
Integinized.

992
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:26,000
And they threw some china down and wanted to fuck with your esophagus.

993
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,400
And I don't know, maybe it was just like scary you into not doing that again or I don't

994
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,320
know, maybe it was a phone.

995
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,040
I wonder where they go after.

996
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,280
It was like nothing happened after that.

997
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,240
I thought he said anyway.

998
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:40,240
They just got bored.

999
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:41,240
It's like the ADHD.

1000
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:42,240
Yeah.

1001
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:43,240
They were like, all right.

1002
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:44,240
I can't possess that one.

1003
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:47,240
I'll just go find another one.

1004
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:48,240
Yeah.

1005
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:49,240
Yeah.

1006
00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:53,920
All right, I wonder if it's like this rule and possession land where if you try to possess

1007
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,480
someone and fail, like you can't try again for seven years.

1008
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:04,520
Oh, and do you feel like seven years is like the do you think that feels like the

1009
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,520
right number?

1010
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,520
It's probably like 666.

1011
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:11,520
They can try again for 600 to six years.

1012
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,520
Do I say that again?

1013
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,520
I've not had one sip of alcohol.

1014
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:25,840
I really, I really, I cannot possess anyone for six hundred and six years.

1015
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,840
I don't know.

1016
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,640
Well, I hope send us more stories.

1017
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,080
If you're shadow people do anything else, apparently they're just hanging around and

1018
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,080
you see them every now and then?

1019
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,080
I don't know.

1020
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,080
Hey, yeah.

1021
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,080
It's kind of hoping they would go away.

1022
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:46,400
But I wanted to I wanted to think like they were protectors.

1023
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,640
Maybe they were a new theory.

1024
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,640
Oh.

1025
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:55,680
I wanted to believe like the shadow people are protectors and just like watching over you.

1026
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,040
But I was like, oh, but the bad, the really bad feeling.

1027
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,240
But then I was like, what if the bad feeling is there and then the shadow people show up

1028
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:08,480
because something else is going on and they actually are protecting you?

1029
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,400
I mean, that could be.

1030
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,520
And just the scary thing you can't see it somewhere else.

1031
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:14,520
Diamonds.

1032
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,240
You don't know what that looks like.

1033
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:17,240
Yeah.

1034
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:18,240
Yeah.

1035
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:24,520
I mean, I feel like that seems like a plausible explanation as well.

1036
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:25,520
Yeah.

1037
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,320
I just wanted to explore a couple lanes here.

1038
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,840
So you would see what we think.

1039
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,960
If you guys think anything different, let us know.

1040
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:39,360
If you have more stories about shadow people and creepy like coffin dreams.

1041
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,360
My God.

1042
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,360
Oh.

1043
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:46,280
You can email them to us at pnwhonsonhomicide@gmail.com.

1044
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,920
You can send us voice messages if you would like.

1045
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,760
Can we get voice messages to our texts?

1046
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:53,760
Do you know?

1047
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,920
I'm not sure.

1048
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:56,920
Let's test it.

1049
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,680
Can you receive through those or is it just sending?

1050
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,680
I have no idea.

1051
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,680
I really have no idea.

1052
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,160
That's probably just sending.

1053
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,160
Anyway.

1054
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,160
Yeah.

1055
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,160
I don't know.

1056
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,160
If they wanted to send us a voice memo, I'm sure they could through the text line.

1057
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:19,320
I think the website now has like a component where they can use.

1058
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:25,960
And if you wanted to record a voice memo and just send it to us through like our Google

1059
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:31,160
form or send it as attachment to an email, you can do that.

1060
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:37,360
There's so many different ways where if you really want to be the one to sort of voice

1061
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:44,280
the story, at least even if it's just us, you have voice the story and have us still

1062
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,600
tell it, we would be honored.

1063
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,080
Yeah.

1064
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,960
Like if you don't want to type it out, send a voice message, but you don't want your voice

1065
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,400
on the pod, we can like retell it for you.

1066
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,400
Yeah.

1067
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:00,400
1000%. Totes.

1068
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,400
We'd love that.

1069
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,400
Yeah.

1070
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,640
Also, we'll send you stickers still if you give us your address and return.

1071
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,640
Yes.

1072
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:07,640
All right.

1073
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,440
Well, should we do a couple tarot reads for these?

1074
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,440
Yes.

1075
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,440
Stores.

1076
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:25,520
We're doing tarot for creepy people chronicle story.

1077
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:31,360
All the dang shadow people, crazy dreams.

1078
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,160
I thought these candles would go really good together.

1079
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:40,520
So I'm burning this boys and apple candle that Caitlin got me so long ago.

1080
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,520
So long ago.

1081
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,720
And I just have the heart to burn it yet, but we're burning it today.

1082
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:52,520
And then I have the haunted circus candle from mythic wick.

1083
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,520
Yeah.

1084
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,520
Okay.

1085
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,520
I say it right.

1086
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,720
Yeah, you do.

1087
00:54:56,720 --> 00:55:02,840
And that's like caramel apple, circus, like popcorn and smoke and fire or something.

1088
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,840
It's like ghostly like smoking fire.

1089
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,840
It smells so good.

1090
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:15,880
Oh, drawing for Clint.

1091
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,960
Four of cups.

1092
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,880
Four of cups has a cute ghost on it because it's from my cute ghost deck.

1093
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,880
Cute.

1094
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:25,880
So cute.

1095
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,080
It has four cups on it.

1096
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,080
Surprise, surprise.

1097
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,080
Shut.

1098
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,080
Okay.

1099
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,560
Here we go.

1100
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,320
So we drew that upright.

1101
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,320
Correct.

1102
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,320
Okay.

1103
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:49,280
So the four of cups are keywords are withdrawal, rest, boredom, lack of inspiration, rest,

1104
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,800
sleepy.

1105
00:55:53,800 --> 00:56:00,840
The four of cups in the writer, wait Smith and other decks depicts a loonsome person sitting

1106
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,320
beneath a tree.

1107
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:10,120
Some show a disembodied hand passing him or her a cup.

1108
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:18,120
The idea, the idea is that you've gone off on your own and art receiving what others

1109
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,320
hold out to you at this time.

1110
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:27,760
You may be withdrawing from your usual routine, work, friends, etc.

1111
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,320
In order to get in touch with yourself.

1112
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,800
Well, you know, self love is important.

1113
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,800
It's not a bad thing.

1114
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,440
Boundary setting.

1115
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:41,680
The upright four of cups symbolizes boredom and stagnation.

1116
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:47,880
You're not satisfied with your life at this time, but lack the incentive to make changes.

1117
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:53,960
You've detached emotionally from people and situations.

1118
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,960
Sometimes this card indicates you've sacrificed happiness for security.

1119
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:05,960
Which I feel is true of anyone living in late stage capital.

1120
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:14,520
Well, also just that statement, like sacrificing happiness for security, it's like he was laughing

1121
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,200
while trying to save his family.

1122
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:22,080
I don't know why that kind of just like the juxtaposition of that is very interesting

1123
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,080
to me.

1124
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,080
Yeah, thanks for the big word.

1125
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,080
Yeah.

1126
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,080
Oh, God.

1127
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,840
I needed it.

1128
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:34,360
If you're reading about money, this card can mean you're too attached to money and security.

1129
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,760
Perhaps at the expense of love and joy.

1130
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:45,000
Which I feel like you were just discussing off my cow.

1131
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:50,280
You might be experiencing one at the expense of another.

1132
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,280
Yeah.

1133
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:57,120
Perhaps you've prioritized money in the past and now seek meaning in other things.

1134
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,520
He just got a tarot deck.

1135
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,480
Oh, yeah.

1136
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:08,480
And I feel like it just is sort of symbolic of him seeking something and maybe trying to

1137
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,240
find some meaning.

1138
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:18,960
And I think honestly, if you do terror readings for yourself and also for others, I've frequently

1139
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:26,320
done them for family and friends.

1140
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:32,480
You'll find kind of little bits of wisdom that sort of, wow, I really needed to hear that.

1141
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:37,360
And it might not influence your life in some sort of crazy way, but it's just what you

1142
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,040
needed to hear today.

1143
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,040
Yeah.

1144
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,520
Yeah.

1145
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:50,240
If the reading is about your job, you probably feel stuck and bored with your job.

1146
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,560
Which like, okay, same as who isn't.

1147
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,560
Less is this one.

1148
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:55,560
Yeah.

1149
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:56,560
That's pretty cool.

1150
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,520
I know, right?

1151
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:06,040
You may long for more creativity and enjoyment, but have opted for security instead.

1152
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,040
Yeah.

1153
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,880
I mean, you have to have it.

1154
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:10,880
Something you need.

1155
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:11,880
It's true.

1156
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:18,560
And with a family in particular, that's, you know, the security of you, of not just yourself,

1157
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,040
but your family, that really has to be paramount.

1158
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,040
Yeah.

1159
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:32,680
In a reading about love, the force shows you withdrawing affection and energy from a relationship.

1160
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,880
Perhaps routine has sacked your enthusiasm.

1161
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:42,880
This card also symbolizes a relationship based on security rather than passion.

1162
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,760
I feel like every relationship goes through phases.

1163
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,360
And I don't know if that's a phase that you're in right now.

1164
00:59:51,360 --> 01:00:02,360
But it can be very easy to move a relationship from one phase to the next or to your specifically

1165
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,000
desired phase.

1166
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:14,000
If you know, you kind of put in that time and that energy and the work to sort of make it

1167
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:19,360
something that feels new and different, even if you've been in it for a long time.

1168
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,360
Yeah.

1169
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:21,360
You're so wise.

1170
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:22,360
You're not even married yet.

1171
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:27,360
Not yet, but I mean, I have a way to do it.

1172
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:37,680
I mean, at the ripe old age of 25, getting married for the very first time.

1173
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:45,200
Now I mean, I think, you know, it's always easier to think about these things in relation

1174
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:53,480
to someone else and feel like you can weigh in a way that's meaningful and you can give

1175
01:00:53,480 --> 01:01:01,480
them insight in a way that, I mean, even someone that's close to you, probably maybe even more

1176
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:08,440
sell someone that's close to you because not that, you know, we don't adore you, but just

1177
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:14,480
that, you know, we're not as close to on the day to day to the situation.

1178
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:22,680
We can just say, you know, maybe, you know, maybe whether it's a romantic relationship,

1179
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,440
a platonic one, a work relationship.

1180
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,680
What if it's like your shadow person relationship?

1181
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,960
Maybe don't work on that one.

1182
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:37,160
If it feels monotonous and you don't want it to be, you know, there are avenues that you

1183
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,160
can explore to remedy that.

1184
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,160
Yeah.

1185
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,760
There's always something that can be done about everything.

1186
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,160
I mean, obviously not like with extremes, like you can't cure cancer.

1187
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,920
Like, you know what I mean, but like just normal stuff, like there's always something that

1188
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:53,920
can be done.

1189
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:54,920
Right.

1190
01:01:54,920 --> 01:02:03,920
When it comes to like relationship problems, when it comes to, you know, largely social issues

1191
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:12,360
and, you know, your individual dynamics, those are things that they can be changed.

1192
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,360
We can work on that.

1193
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,360
Yeah.

1194
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:20,360
Well, should we draw for the next story?

1195
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,600
Actually, what I was going to say, we don't even know if this card relates to you, Clint,

1196
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,920
but if it does let us know.

1197
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,520
We don't know what's going on over there.

1198
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,200
We're just reading from the book.

1199
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,200
So.

1200
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,200
Yeah.

1201
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,200
Thank you for your story.

1202
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,200
We love that.

1203
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,200
So much.

1204
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,200
We love hearing from Clint.

1205
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,200
It's always entertaining.

1206
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,200
We always cry.

1207
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,680
So that's like our, that's our thing now.

1208
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,200
So you can never not make us cry when you send us the story.

1209
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,200
Apparently.

1210
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,480
That is his thing of ours.

1211
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:54,640
I cannot believe he's not going to make us cry and then proceeded to tell us the saddest

1212
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:55,640
dream.

1213
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:56,640
It's just.

1214
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:57,640
Okay.

1215
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:05,400
Well, let's draw a story for, let's draw a card for next story.

1216
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,400
Okay.

1217
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:12,200
This is definitely when I went and I picked one with Clint because I felt like I knew,

1218
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,440
but you got to, you got to do this one.

1219
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,760
I was in that region.

1220
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:18,760
It's been eyeballing me.

1221
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,760
Oh, the moon.

1222
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:20,760
Interesting.

1223
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,160
I was wearing a shirt that had the moon on it earlier today.

1224
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,680
That's so funny.

1225
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:26,680
Okay.

1226
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,920
Oh, this is all about like a nighttime dream.

1227
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,080
This is all about like secrets and shadows.

1228
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,880
Oh, shadow people.

1229
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:36,880
Secrets.

1230
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,840
What are your secrets, Nick?

1231
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,160
What are your psychro.

1232
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,160
Oh boy.

1233
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:42,160
This is so perfect.

1234
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,160
Oh my gosh.

1235
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,160
Moon is like totally like shadow.

1236
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,160
Like it's crazy.

1237
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,160
This is really interesting.

1238
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,160
Okay.

1239
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,160
Okay.

1240
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,160
He words are intuition.

1241
01:03:49,160 --> 01:04:02,920
The unconscious.

1242
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,440
Oh, hello.

1243
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,440
Mystery illusion and secrets.

1244
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,440
I said secrets.

1245
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,640
What are your secrets?

1246
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,560
Nicholas, we're coming for you on Tennessee.

1247
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,320
I don't know if you still live there, not.

1248
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,840
I assume wherever you are.

1249
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,280
Once you still have an accent, you probably still live in Tennessee, right?

1250
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,280
That's how that works.

1251
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:24,280
I don't think so.

1252
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:29,080
I think you don't move and pick up the accent over you go, necessarily.

1253
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,280
I'm probably so offensive to this house.

1254
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,160
I deeply apologize.

1255
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,160
They love it.

1256
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,680
I love your accent.

1257
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:37,680
Bless your heart.

1258
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,560
Bless your heart.

1259
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,600
Bless your heart.

1260
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:51,880
The moon is a magical mysterious part that symbolizes the unconscious, the realm of dreams,

1261
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,520
imagination and psychic impressions.

1262
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,720
Crazy.

1263
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:04,480
Some deck show the moon as full, others in its crescent phase.

1264
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,240
Where some of it shadowed.

1265
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:15,760
On the right-of-way smith's deck, two canines, a dog and a wolf, howl at the moon.

1266
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:22,800
At the bottom of the card is a pool or pond of water from which crawls a crab.

1267
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,400
Oh, oh, interesting.

1268
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,400
Oh.

1269
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:32,400
Symbol of the astrological sign cancer ruled by the moon.

1270
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,400
That's me, you guys.

1271
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,200
I have a crab on my foot.

1272
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,920
I probably don't want to show my foot, let's see.

1273
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:42,240
It's like a crab craw foot.

1274
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,080
You can't.

1275
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,160
You literally can't get it in frame.

1276
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,160
Can you see it?

1277
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,160
Kind of.

1278
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,160
Well, take a picture of it.

1279
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:59,640
I thought it was funnier to try to look at what's like you with your shoes.

1280
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:05,400
At the bottom of the card is a pool or pond of water from which crawls a crab.

1281
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:11,080
Symbol of the astrological sign cancer ruled by the moon.

1282
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,400
Crawfish or lobster.

1283
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:14,400
Crawfish?

1284
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:15,400
Crawlfish.

1285
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,760
I like to think of it as being lobster.

1286
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:18,760
Because that's how it looks.

1287
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,960
Yeah, lobster is delicious.

1288
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:27,920
The water suggests the moon's link with the emotions in the unconscious realm.

1289
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:28,920
Totally.

1290
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,480
Oh, I just thought like crawfish boil like in the south.

1291
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,480
I think yeah.

1292
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:36,480
That's the video.

1293
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,480
I was like, yeah, I've been there for days.

1294
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,240
You have to say it, Caitlin.

1295
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:41,240
Come on.

1296
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:42,320
Well, I mean, I don't.

1297
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,480
If it relate with the card didn't know that this story was from the south.

1298
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,480
But didn't it?

1299
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:48,480
Didn't it?

1300
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:49,720
It didn't know.

1301
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:56,480
The moon urges you to pay more attention to your inner self, your lunar self.

1302
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:01,200
Oh, didn't that last card kind of say that too?

1303
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,200
I think a little bit.

1304
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,960
It's about self reflection.

1305
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:12,080
I think in both of these instances, the light of the sun enables us to see the world around

1306
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,080
us.

1307
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:22,520
But the moon allows us to eliminate, illuminate, excuse me, illuminate what springs naturally

1308
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,920
from inside us.

1309
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,160
So very cancer type stuff going on here.

1310
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:35,160
I immediately cannot connect because it's very gushy.

1311
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,160
Do you know it's very emotional?

1312
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:38,160
Yeah.

1313
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,160
Well, do you know what that also reminds me of?

1314
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,160
What?

1315
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:42,160
Vomit.

1316
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,160
Oh.

1317
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,160
What did it say?

1318
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,160
Read that again.

1319
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,160
It's delightful.

1320
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,240
The light of the sun enables us to see the world around us.

1321
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:56,160
But the moon allows us to illuminate what springs naturally from inside us.

1322
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,160
Wow.

1323
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,160
Springs.

1324
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,160
Springs naturally from inside us.

1325
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,160
As a projectile from within.

1326
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,160
That's what it sounded like.

1327
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,160
He was vomiting.

1328
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,160
It is.

1329
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,160
Okay.

1330
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:13,480
We've got an extra excerpt before our whole interpretation.

1331
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:21,480
Evidence of moon worship is found in such widely buried cultures as those of the in a

1332
01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:31,200
saucy Indians of New Mexico, the Greeks, Romans, Chinese, pre-Columbian, Peruvians,

1333
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,680
Burmese, Phoenicians, and Egyptians.

1334
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,120
So basically every continent.

1335
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:39,120
Yeah.

1336
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:40,120
Not shocking.

1337
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,320
No.

1338
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:50,120
In the craft, when we refer to the great god by the Hebrew names, L or Elohim, we borrow

1339
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:58,840
the new terms that entered Hebrew from Arabic, where the name "Ela" derives from a word

1340
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,840
that means moon.

1341
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:01,840
Hmm.

1342
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:02,840
I had no idea.

1343
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:03,840
Me neither.

1344
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:04,840
Wow.

1345
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:05,840
Okay.

1346
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,600
Now we're going to get to your actual interpretation.

1347
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,200
This is really interesting.

1348
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:15,680
The moon upright shows you tuning into your lunar energies.

1349
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:20,160
You're becoming more aware of your feelings and inner life.

1350
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:24,880
The moon also suggests psychic ability.

1351
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:31,320
You can sense other people's vibrations because you're connected to the information network

1352
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:36,160
of the invisible world or an invisible string.

1353
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:37,160
What?

1354
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:42,200
That's crazy.

1355
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:43,200
We talked about that.

1356
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,200
Did we talk about that in this episode?

1357
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,200
It was not like a pat.

1358
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,200
We've recorded three episodes today.

1359
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,200
Yeah.

1360
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,200
We're actually bringing people.

1361
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:53,200
Yeah.

1362
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,200
Oh, that's a...

1363
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,200
Nick, are you psychic?

1364
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:56,200
Let us know.

1365
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,200
Can you feel our vibrations?

1366
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,200
Okay.

1367
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,200
Listen to this.

1368
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:08,000
Pay attention to your dreams, feelings, instincts, and intuition.

1369
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:14,560
For artistic people, the moon's appearance may indicate a time of increased imagination

1370
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,160
and creativity.

1371
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,160
I hear crows.

1372
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,160
That's a good sign.

1373
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:26,560
Interrating about money, this card recommends listening to your intuition as well as your intellect

1374
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,040
in connection with a money matter.

1375
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,640
I mean, that's pretty standard advice.

1376
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,640
I feel like...

1377
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:33,640
I feel like...

1378
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:34,640
Solid.

1379
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:41,160
However, don't make a decision based on emotion alone.

1380
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,320
Which is...

1381
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,640
I feel like that goes for money and pretty much everything else.

1382
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,640
Yeah.

1383
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:57,000
The moon can also point to ups and downs, changing phases in a financial situation.

1384
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:04,040
If the reading is about your job, the moon can mean a situation has a hidden or dark side.

1385
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,040
Hmm.

1386
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:11,800
This isn't necessarily bad, but you may not be aware of all of the dynamics at work.

1387
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,800
Well, shoot.

1388
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,880
Nick, watch out.

1389
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,480
Illusions or secrets may cause confusion.

1390
01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:26,360
If you begin something during the new moon, you may see things more clearly or a project

1391
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:31,280
may reach culmination during the full moon.

1392
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,280
Interesting.

1393
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,920
Look up when the next new moon is, because I know boys probably don't usually care about

1394
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,800
when the new moon is.

1395
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,400
I mean, I'm obviously making a gender stereotype there.

1396
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,000
You guys know what I mean.

1397
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,000
Yeah.

1398
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,760
Oh, it's soon.

1399
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,240
Oh, it's soon.

1400
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:49,240
Oh, it's...

1401
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,240
Oh, it's just...

1402
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,240
It's just happened.

1403
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:52,240
Yeah, it happened two days ago.

1404
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:53,240
So you missed your shot.

1405
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,240
You'll have to wait until next new moon, which is...

1406
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,240
Oh, yeah.

1407
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,240
Oh, yeah.

1408
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:00,240
Oh, yeah.

1409
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,240
Oh, yeah.

1410
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,520
Next new moon, which is on July 5th.

1411
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,520
Oh, interesting.

1412
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:06,520
Okay.

1413
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,520
When is the full moon?

1414
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,320
Oh, sorry.

1415
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,400
Two weeks' fish from now, let's see.

1416
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,800
Full moon is June 21st.

1417
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,280
Oh, wow.

1418
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,520
Second day of summer, I think.

1419
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,880
And then the July is July 21st.

1420
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:23,880
Okay.

1421
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:24,880
Cool.

1422
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,040
Good to know.

1423
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,840
Just making plans.

1424
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:33,840
I mean, now those details, ironing out.

1425
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:34,840
I don't know.

1426
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,840
I might have said that weird.

1427
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:37,840
That's okay.

1428
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:38,840
Get over it.

1429
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,840
You say most things when I'm just kidding, you don't.

1430
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:41,840
I can't.

1431
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:42,840
No.

1432
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:49,360
In a reading about love, this card symbolizes a highly emotional relationship that may be tinged

1433
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,400
with illusions.

1434
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:58,640
Sometimes it represents a sensitive partner who nurtures you, especially creatively.

1435
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:03,640
Or that you're working on issues of mothering and nurturing.

1436
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,640
Interesting.

1437
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,960
All right.

1438
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:14,480
Our extra excerpt is extra long.

1439
01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:21,560
When looking for adventure in a dark and deserted landscape, we should ask only for the

1440
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,520
light of the moon.

1441
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:32,480
Men or imaginations can create more exotic explanations for the wrestling in the undergrowth

1442
01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:41,360
or the dark, bottomless voids, which open up ahead of us.

1443
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:46,760
We comfort ourselves too much with light.

1444
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:53,720
Sometimes we must wander in the dark so that our other senses can find their full expression

1445
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:59,320
and we hear more clearly the message of the night.

1446
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:06,680
The wilderness and the strange creatures that inhabit the unseen spaces.

1447
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:07,680
Whoa.

1448
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,760
That's pretty cool.

1449
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,800
Kind of creepy though.

1450
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,520
The creatures that came out of the dark in these stories are.

1451
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:19,520
Yeah.

1452
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,040
That's a lot.

1453
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,040
But I don't know.

1454
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:26,400
Maybe that goes to like what I was saying is like you can't see the bad thing and the shadow

1455
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,200
people that you can see are the ones protecting you.

1456
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,360
Maybe.

1457
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,840
And you can't have shadow without light.

1458
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:38,000
Oh, I don't know.

1459
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,480
My body is.

1460
01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:42,480
Wow.

1461
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:49,480
Well, both of you guys let us know if this is relating to your life or your, I mean,

1462
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:53,840
obviously parts of them were relating to the story, but I mean, you don't have to tell

1463
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:54,840
us your life.

1464
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:55,840
But tell us if the card relates.

1465
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:56,840
We like to know.

1466
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:57,840
I like to tell us your life.

1467
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,840
Like, feel free to tell us.

1468
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:01,320
Yeah, you can tell us your life.

1469
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:02,840
What's going on at work?

1470
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,520
What's going on with this relationship that's very emotional and passionate.

1471
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,520
I love it.

1472
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,520
Well, that was cool.

1473
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:17,520
I really like getting like a voice message story from people.

1474
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:18,520
Yeah.

1475
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:19,520
It's fun.

1476
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,840
It gives people a break from hearing us read.

1477
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:27,280
We're going to have to take a look before this one comes out and see if we can give their

1478
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,760
guidelines on how to do the audio.

1479
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:30,760
See that.

1480
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:37,240
I mean, there's so many ways that I know people that are really motivated to do it.

1481
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,720
They will just do that thing.

1482
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,840
They will do the thing.

1483
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:47,160
But I think we might have some resources.

1484
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,000
Yeah, I need like an easy way to do something.

1485
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,240
Show me where to click the button.

1486
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:52,240
I'll do it.

1487
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,080
But if I actually take extra steps, sometimes it depends.

1488
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:57,080
We're all busy.

1489
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,080
Yeah.

1490
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:59,080
Yeah.

1491
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:00,080
And I totally get that.

1492
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,880
So I'm like, I can appreciate when there's like a shorthand for things.

1493
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:05,880
Yeah.

1494
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,040
So yeah, we'll have to take a look at that and see if we can figure out some ways to like

1495
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,520
make that a little bit easier for people.

1496
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:23,680
And maybe even for some people that don't feel like they're the most savvy in that arena.

1497
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,520
My self included.

1498
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,320
Yeah.

1499
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,320
That was fun.

1500
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:30,320
Yeah.

1501
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:31,320
Yeah.

1502
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,520
Hearing somebody else actually tell the story.

1503
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:40,400
I try to put myself in that person's shoes when we're reading somebody else's story.

1504
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:46,400
But to hear their voice telling it is clearly creates more of an emotional response from

1505
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:47,400
you.

1506
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:48,400
Yeah.

1507
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:49,400
Yeah.

1508
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:50,400
Physical even.

1509
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,400
It is.

1510
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,400
It's hard to argue with that.

1511
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:53,400
Yeah.

1512
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:54,400
Yeah.

1513
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:55,400
All right.

1514
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:56,400
Well, should we go?

1515
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,400
It's pretty late at night here.

1516
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:06,400
I mean, you can't tell because you have no idea what time of day it is now anymore.

1517
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:14,840
You've blocked out the light, which don't do that in general, but like unless you need a

1518
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:21,400
room with controlled light and sound, that's just how we're living.

1519
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,400
That's how the curtain closes.

1520
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:24,400
Yeah.

1521
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:29,200
And could this.

1522
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:30,400
Should we do our thing?

1523
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,400
Let's do our thing.

1524
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:33,400
Okay.

1525
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,400
Have a creepy ass day.

1526
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,400
We'll see you next Tuesday.

1527
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,400
But like feel free to write us in between now.

1528
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:42,400
Yeah.

1529
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:50,640
Let us know what you're up to, what you're doing, how your day is going, what you had for lunch.

1530
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:58,360
If it was really interesting or spooky, if you got like a paranormal message from your

1531
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,400
tuna, you know, in the sandwich.

1532
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,400
I want a tuna paranormal message.

1533
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,400
Tuna paranormal on a five.

1534
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:11,400
A listen, you asked them, what did they have for lunch?

1535
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:18,600
Well, everyone stay away from, I don't want to see stay away from shadow people because what

1536
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,000
if they're not evil?

1537
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,000
Listen, just stay safe.

1538
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,000
Yeah.

1539
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,000
How about please stay safe.

1540
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,000
Do it feels right.

1541
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,800
If you're not safe and something happens, please let us know immediately.

1542
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,800
Especially from the afterlife.

1543
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,800
Well, don't die.

1544
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:35,800
Please.

1545
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:41,800
Listen, if they already died, like the least you could do is contact us.

1546
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:48,040
Oh, and we haven't said it in a long time, but this is also proof that these stories don't

1547
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:49,760
need to be from the Pacific Northwest.

1548
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,800
They could be from Tennessee or Canada.

1549
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,800
Well, I don't know what part of Canadian Clint is in.

1550
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:02,800
Oh, I mean also, visit Canada.

1551
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,800
Our friend from Canada.

1552
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,800
Yeah.

1553
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,380
(laughing)