1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,160 ♪ Entertain me, entertain me right now ♪ 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,560 Congratulations, you found the pop culture junkie podcast. 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,440 I'm Olivia here with Shauna. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,320 And Shauna, you know, you've had quite the week. 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,320 I have lost my girl to much bigger publications. 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,080 - Yes. - She is going big leagues. 7 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:25,040 So tell the listeners a little bit 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,360 about what you have been up to, Shauna. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,840 I've been working my ass on all women everywhere. 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,160 - Yes, okay, we're getting a little political. 11 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:35,520 - Yeah, I think so. - Yeah, I think so. 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,000 We live in Arizona and abortion is on the ballot 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,520 this year in Arizona. - Yes. 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,800 - So it is Proposition 139. 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,920 And I work full time for the Yes on 139 campaign, 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,680 which would solidify abortion rights 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,680 in the state of Arizona. 18 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,280 So it has been crazy busy leading up to Election Day. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,560 But it's always very fulfilling and amazing 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,840 and I've been loving it. 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,840 So we've been doing some press interviews 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,840 and I've been interviewed by the New York Times 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,840 a couple of times. 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:07,880 - Oh, yes. 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,160 - Yes, including for their podcast, The Daily. 26 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,000 - Yes, guys. - You're here first. 27 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,800 If you're a pop culture junkie listener, 28 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,280 you saw her here before The Daily Day. 29 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,280 - Before The Daily, I was a Pop Culture Junkie. 30 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,360 Always and forever. 31 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,480 And then The New Yorker. 32 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,960 So once all these come out, 33 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:25,600 I'll make sure to send them your way. 34 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,680 - Yeah, absolutely. 35 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,080 But yeah, so we've just been working really hard 36 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,920 on solidifying abortion rights in Arizona 37 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,040 and we're gonna have a postcard party here coming up. 38 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,600 And speaking of abortion rights in Arizona, 39 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,960 the Pop Culture Junkie podcast are going to be 40 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:43,880 the masters of ceremonies. 41 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,720 - Sounds so serious. 42 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,960 - It does, doesn't it? 43 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:49,880 - For Zombie Prom 2024, for all of our Arizona listeners, 44 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,880 still, we love you out of Arizona listeners. 45 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,400 - Yes. - Come visit us. 46 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,120 - Yes, yeah, come if you want, 47 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,160 but if you want to meet your Junkies in person, 48 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,600 we're actually gonna be fundraising for Planned Parenthood. 49 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,320 And it'll be at the Casual Pint. 50 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,240 - Would you ever think of the Casual Pint? 51 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,600 - Yeah, they love us. 52 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,200 We love them. 53 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,600 We really can't be working with them. 54 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,320 They're such a great bar and organization. 55 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,160 - Oh, absolutely. 56 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,280 They're so supportive of everything that we do. 57 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,680 So it's gonna be October 11th from 7 to 11 PM 58 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,160 at the Casual Pint, Central Phoenix. 59 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,760 We will be our hostesses with the most. 60 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,680 - And most is the years of the ghouls and shows. 61 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,280 - Yeah, and it's $5 if you ticket. 62 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,360 - It's $5 a ticket. 63 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,160 - And that $5 a go right to Planned Parenthood. 64 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,240 - Yeah, so all that goes directly to it. 65 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,840 There's some fun things that we're gonna be doing, 66 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,960 like a brain eating, a competition. 67 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,560 - Yeah, our friend Stephanie's making the brain. 68 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,040 - Yes, yes, yes, yes. 69 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,040 - She's practicing. 70 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,520 - Last year we had a last minute brain for paw 71 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:53,800 and it did not turn into brain. 72 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:54,800 - We ran out of brain. 73 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:55,960 - Yeah, we ran out of brain. 74 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:56,960 - It's been a fresh brain. 75 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,360 - If you've listened to this podcast, 76 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,400 you already know that. 77 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,440 (laughing) 78 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,760 - We haven't had brains in 35 years. 79 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,480 - No, but it's been really cool. 80 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,080 And I think for me, I'm just so proud of you 81 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,720 for all the work that you've been doing. 82 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:13,560 - Thank you. 83 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,320 - It's not easy to knock on a door every single day 84 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,240 and in the great state of Arizona, 85 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,640 we do not know what door you are knocking on. 86 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:24,080 - We've got some interesting interactions. 87 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,840 One dude just opened his door shirtless, 88 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,360 which is rubbing his belly. 89 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,200 (laughing) 90 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,600 And I was like, "Hey, I'm gonna talk about Prop 139." 91 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,880 He's like, "Yeah, so, right." 92 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,640 And just kind of like going around the belly button 93 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:36,000 a little too aggressively. 94 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,000 And I was like, 95 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,440 "You just built, yes, here's the floor." 96 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,280 - He took it back. 97 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,800 - He was gonna vote for abortion, though. 98 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,320 - He did, he's like, "All right." 99 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,720 He was feeling his umbilical cord. 100 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,400 And he was like, "Yeah, yeah." 101 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,320 - I got a little... 102 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,840 (laughing) 103 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,040 - He didn't earn acid deep. 104 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,160 So he's voting yes, though. 105 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,400 - Yeah, so... 106 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,280 - So I love that. 107 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,080 So yes, but I'm not serving beer as Salil Nasex. 108 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,400 I am walking door to door for abortion rights. 109 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,920 - Or I'm listening to a podcast with you. 110 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,000 - Or speaking to a New York Times reporter. 111 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,600 - You know, you know. 112 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,440 - Yeah, yeah. 113 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,360 So, and that's been pretty cool to see, you know, 114 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,800 just your journey with it. 115 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,040 So I'm proud of you. 116 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,840 - I need it so much to be proud of you. 117 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:20,520 (laughing) 118 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,240 - And, you know, no matter your affiliation, 119 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,320 we want to fight for woman's rights to choose. 120 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,320 - Absolutely. 121 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,600 - That's where we are. 122 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,120 - 100%. 123 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,320 - What have you been up to? 124 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,320 - I haven't seen you in ages. 125 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,760 I know you were like, "Gravely ill." 126 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,440 - Oh, well, you were not going to talk to me. 127 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:40,520 - Well, you were not going to talk to me. 128 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:45,240 So I was hospitalized and I lost 20 pounds. 129 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,400 - You look incredible. 130 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,800 - You look like you didn't before. 131 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,960 - Thank you, no, I've been quite sick. 132 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,240 So. - We do not endorse you. 133 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,280 - You see 20 pounds from sickness and just really that. 134 00:04:56,280 --> 00:04:57,520 (laughing) 135 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,520 - But in my very sickness, I have been watching a ton of movies, 136 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,240 a ton of shows, some nostalgia. 137 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,640 Like every time I get really sick, 138 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,040 I have to rewatch the vampire diaries. 139 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,800 And that's why it's my comfort show. 140 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,760 - Mine used to be the OC when I got really sick. 141 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,080 I would have to rewatch the OC. 142 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,160 - Oh, it's so good. 143 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,600 I also, another one that I've started to put into the mix 144 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,960 is Desperate Housewives. 145 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,680 - I was thinking about starting that 146 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,440 because I've been seeing a lot of clips 147 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,040 on Instagram reels and it looks really funny. 148 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,240 - It's, you've never seen it. 149 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,840 Oh my gosh, okay, it gets a little cookie towards the end. 150 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:36,320 Like all TV shows that should have ended. 151 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,680 - But the first couple of seasons are so good. 152 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,520 You should watch it. 153 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:45,160 - And it's quite the time capsule of the 2000s. 154 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,880 - Of like, okay, what was it like to be 155 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,520 or a publican before MAGA? 156 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,280 - Ooh, are they all republicans? 157 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:53,280 - And like rich ladies. 158 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:56,520 - There's one who's free, who's like an NRA, 159 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,720 like perfect mother, like a republican. 160 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,880 And so it's kind of interesting to like look 161 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,520 at those archetypes of mothers and women. 162 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,320 And I think during its time, 163 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,800 it was such an influential show 164 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,400 because they were never showing women of that age. 165 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:14,240 - Yeah, absolutely. 166 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,480 - They're all one of their cities. 167 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,880 - Yeah, they're all housewives. 168 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,640 - Are they desperate? 169 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,840 - Yeah, they are desperate. 170 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:23,920 And of course it created the iconic 171 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,120 real housewives. 172 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,640 - I always get them mixed up. 173 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,760 - Yeah. 174 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,920 - Yeah, so it created a lot of iconic pop culture 175 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,000 that we see today. 176 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,400 But one movie that I really wanted to talk about 177 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,600 that is incredibly pertinent to everything going on 178 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,840 in pop culture that I know you and I both saw. 179 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:43,000 - Oh my gosh. 180 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,000 - Blink twice. 181 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,760 - So, and so I'm gonna try not to spoil it. 182 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,600 This is Zoe Kravitz, directorial debut 183 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,320 and screenplay writing debut. 184 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,680 - She killed it. 185 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,680 - And I, like, of course, so Zoe Kravitz has been 186 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,560 a NEPO baby her entire life. 187 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,800 - She's in your NEPO baby car. 188 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:04,640 - She's in my NEPO baby car. 189 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,280 I love that woman so much. 190 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:09,240 But obviously she has been in pop culture 191 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,320 and has clearly been to a lot of ditty parties 192 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,880 within her life. 193 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,040 - And you can tell from this movie. 194 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,440 - Yeah, and so Blink twice is incredibly good. 195 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:26,440 Chaining Tatum is in it and plays a very unconventional role. 196 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:31,000 He is this wealthy billionaire and it kind of starts out 197 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,680 with him like doing your standard YouTuber apology. 198 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,880 - Yeah, I'm taking time to work on my mental health. 199 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:43,000 - Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, kind of Jeff Bezos type character. 200 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,320 - And so I watched the movie and I can't even begin to tell. 201 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,320 It's so good. 202 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:53,320 Like go see it in theaters, pay the $20 on Amazon Prime 203 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,720 to actually rent and watch it. 204 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,320 - I saw in theaters for the first time 205 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,800 and then when I was over at your house 206 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,880 and you wanted to rewatch it the next day. 207 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:01,720 - Yeah, I watched it. 208 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:02,880 I was like, it's so good. 209 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,320 I had to rewatch it again. 210 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,280 - Watch because you catch things 211 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,120 that you didn't the first time around. 212 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,520 And then you talked to me about the color theory. 213 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:11,360 - Yes. 214 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,080 - And again, we don't want to spoil it because it's so good. 215 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,200 But like different colors throughout the movie. 216 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,480 - Represent different things. 217 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,800 - Represent different things that are going on 218 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,440 in the character's lives. 219 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,240 And it is so feminist. 220 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,280 - It's the most feminist movie. 221 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,480 It's so good. 222 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,680 So he craves did amazing. 223 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,680 Channing Tatum takes on a very different role 224 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:32,680 than you've ever seen him in. 225 00:08:32,680 --> 00:08:34,480 - Yeah, he absolutely crushes it. 226 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,480 - He's so good. 227 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,000 - Lots of actors in that movie where they pop up 228 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,800 and you're like, oh shit, they're in this? 229 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:40,800 Oh wow, look at that. 230 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,720 - Yeah, you're like, oh my gosh. 231 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,880 And with everything going on with Diddy, 232 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,680 all the comporter, now Eric Adams being indicted, 233 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:53,120 it is really, really, really relevant. 234 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:53,960 - Very timely. 235 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,240 - It's crazy that Zoe Kravitz released this movie. 236 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,600 Right as all this was happening with her history. 237 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,600 And it really does feel like a kind of a glimp, 238 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,440 like an artistic glimpse into what the hell is going on. 239 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,680 - Yeah, and she made it seem 240 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:12,440 like she's seen some shit. 241 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,400 And you could watch this movie and think, 242 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,920 oh this is just fiction, but it's, oh god. 243 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:18,760 - Oh no, oh god. 244 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:19,760 - This is a glimpsum. 245 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,920 - Into what's going down. 246 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,360 - Yeah, and I have always kind of been this 247 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,080 conspiratorial crazy, like a podcast. 248 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,880 - And I'm right out of this side of the podcast 249 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,360 where I'm like, there's some weird stuff going on. 250 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,040 - I'm doing a Hollywood shit. 251 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,560 - Like I remember talking about Justin Bieber and Diddy, 252 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:39,680 like months and months and months ago. 253 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:42,200 And then now all this stuff is coming up. 254 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,960 And so I watched that movie and with all the Diddy stuff 255 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,440 going on right now, like I have not stopped thinking about. 256 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,280 - It's one of those movies that stick with you 257 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,760 and you keep thinking of other little things that happen 258 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,160 in the movie that you're like, oh gosh, 259 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,560 I wonder what that meant. 260 00:09:57,560 --> 00:10:00,200 Or like you didn't realize it until you were laying 261 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,280 in bed or brushing your teeth. 262 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,200 And you're like, oh my god, 263 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,560 I didn't even think about it that way. 264 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:06,080 - Yeah, and we haven't done a Diddy Jeep dive 265 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,720 in all the allegations just because there is 266 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:09,920 so much coming out. 267 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:10,760 - Yeah. 268 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,400 - And it's been really, really hard today 269 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,200 as of where we're recording. 270 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,600 120 additional allegations have been filed against him. 271 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,200 There's a cross-action lawsuit. 272 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,200 - Oh my gosh. 273 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,480 - That got filed today. 274 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,160 I mean, I think we're gonna continue to see more 275 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,640 and more and more clear about it. 276 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,120 - Oh my gosh, but I think people fall down. 277 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,560 But there are a lot of great YouTubers and podcasters 278 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:36,840 covering the topic. 279 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,960 - You've never heard the name Jaguar, right? 280 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,560 She is spitting truth. 281 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:43,000 - I have not really. 282 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,240 - Jaguar, right? Like W.I. are. 283 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,080 - Yeah, yes. 284 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,080 - Okay. 285 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,520 - So she's actually got kind of sounding 286 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,720 the alarm on Diddy four years and years and years. 287 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,480 And everyone was like, oh, she's kooky. 288 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Like no one believes her. 289 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,120 'Cause she just didn't make it. 290 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,040 - Women are hysterical for things. 291 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,520 I was just talking about this today at the other job. 292 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,720 The day job. 293 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,880 People, women are always accused of being hysterical 294 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,880 about things and then we end up being right. 295 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,680 - And then it takes 200 people to say, 296 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:11,840 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 297 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,360 - But like over and over again with its stuff like this 298 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,240 when they're saying, no, this guy's a creep, listen to us 299 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,120 or no like, rovy way, it's gonna be over turned. 300 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,520 Please listen to us. 301 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,880 Oh, no, you're overreacting. 302 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,480 You're just being hysterical, right? 303 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,760 And that's kind of this movie. 304 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,600 It's, I mean, I, again, no spoilers, 305 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,600 but it's a lot of, oh, you're just overreacting. 306 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,880 - Yeah, I mean, it's fun. 307 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:35,880 - Gaslighting. 308 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:36,880 - Yes, yes, yes. 309 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,880 If you haven't seen it, yeah, go watch it. 310 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:39,880 It's so good. 311 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,680 And it's a great piece of media and original media, 312 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:46,600 which I think we're really have been missing 313 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,920 within this world quite a bit. 314 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,560 But yeah, those, definitely say I started 315 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:52,600 Desperate Housewives. 316 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,880 - Where can you watch Desperate Housewives? 317 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:55,720 - It's on Hulu. 318 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:56,720 - It's, yeah. 319 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:57,560 - So. 320 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:58,400 - I'm gonna do it. 321 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,240 - Yeah, I'm gonna show it. 322 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,080 It's worth it. 323 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,440 - I'll take a break from my disaster movies 324 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,920 that I watch every Thursday. 325 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,480 - Yeah, the disaster movie is canvassing. 326 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,120 I think you need like a little happy. 327 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,160 - No, I can't miss all day and talk to people 328 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,760 about trying to restore bodily autonomy to women. 329 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,160 And then I go home and I'm like, 330 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,640 what's the most violent tragic movie I could watch? 331 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,120 - Have I watched a day after tomorrow? 332 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,440 - That is my comfort movie though. 333 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,880 I love that movie so much. 334 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,880 - It is, but yeah, and we're-- 335 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,320 - There are acutubates of Catholicism 336 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,320 and I have to like it. 337 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:28,160 - Yeah. 338 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,240 (laughing) 339 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,960 - That's the reason you like the movie. 340 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,320 - I was an acutococaptain. 341 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,480 - Okay. 342 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,160 - We never got to go to New York though. 343 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,320 - Oh, I was a math lead. 344 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:38,160 - Okay. 345 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,000 - Sure. 346 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:44,520 - What's 300 plus, or should I give a round number? 347 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,360 - 300 plus four. 348 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,600 - 300 times 1,475. 349 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:52,840 - Let me just say that math was my worst subject. 350 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,160 - Okay, but then how are you a math lead? 351 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,760 - Because that's what they call it in Mean Girls. 352 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:56,600 That was a joke. 353 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,440 - Okay. 354 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,320 - That's what the kids at the bus stop used to call me. 355 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,680 - You know, fake news. 356 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:01,680 (laughing) 357 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:02,520 Fake news. 358 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,760 - No, I was good at speech. 359 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,600 I was great at speeches 'cause I'd be talking. 360 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:07,440 - Go figure. 361 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,280 - Bitch, be talking. 362 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,120 - Go figure. 363 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:09,960 - I love that. 364 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:10,800 I love that. 365 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,560 Okay, let's go into our topic somehow from there. 366 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:20,280 - Well, as we begin our favorite month of the year, 367 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,040 we wanted to talk about a little thing 368 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,800 that causes spooky feelings in us 369 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,040 that might not just be horror. 370 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,360 And we wanted to talk about this thing called 371 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,200 uncanny valley. 372 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,960 So, Sean, do you know what uncanny valley is? 373 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,960 - Uncanny valley is a theory proposed in 1970 374 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:45,000 by Japanese robot assist Masihiro Mori. 375 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,400 The term uncanny valley is a translation 376 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,760 from the Japanese phrase, 377 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,880 "Wukimi no tani," which was later translated into English 378 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:53,960 by a British person. 379 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,360 We're not gonna say that name. 380 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,200 - Yeah. 381 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:01,200 - The Japanese name, Chihizo Rikari in 1978. 382 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,640 - So the theory is that as an object becomes more human 383 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,680 like an appearance, people's affinity towards it increases. 384 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:13,200 But at a certain point, the object is almost human, 385 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,000 but not quite there. 386 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,560 It evokes feelings of like ayriness or like a brother ew 387 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:19,880 like something is off. 388 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,000 It's just not right in uncannyness. 389 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,840 The sudden drop in affinity creates that valley. 390 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,920 So when we're like, "Oh, it looks like a person." 391 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,760 I like that oh god, it looks too much like a person, 392 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,240 but something's off, something's off. 393 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,280 Then it's the valley. 394 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,040 - Yeah, and it's very scientific. 395 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,400 Again, we're not gonna, you know, 396 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,880 explain the theory of Masihiro, 397 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,760 but really it becomes this common occurrence 398 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,760 within humans where if something looks human like, 399 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,720 but isn't quite there, 400 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,000 creates a sense of deep unsettling within us. 401 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,960 So it's always, things that don't create 402 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,320 on Canny Valley from here like the Avatar movie, right? 403 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,640 Because they're humanoid. 404 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,080 - Yeah, they're human, yeah, they're blue. 405 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,480 They're humanoid, but you know they're not supposed 406 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,760 to be humans, right? 407 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,600 Or like Sanos, he's humanoid. 408 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,600 But it doesn't create that Iqfactor in me 409 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,040 because he's so far removed still from being human. 410 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,040 - I think it's just called that. 411 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,840 - Every example you get was like, 412 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,160 - Sanos has purple. 413 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,120 - The weird chin and there's different things 414 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,480 that don't create on Canny Valley. 415 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,720 It's when they are so close to having it down, 416 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,960 but there's still that one thing off 417 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,800 that you're like, this isn't quite right for me. 418 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,840 Like Princess Leia and Rogue One, right? 419 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,760 So she shows up at the end and it's supposed 420 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,120 to be a D.H. Carrie Fisher and they do such a good job, 421 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,240 and it's almost there, but there's something 422 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,680 a little too waxy about her face. 423 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,560 She's a little dead behind the eyes, 424 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,160 and so it creates that unease because you know 425 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,320 that they're trying to convince you 426 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,480 that that's really Carrie Fisher and that's a human, 427 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,120 but it's definitely not. 428 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,200 - Yeah, and it's so interesting to me 429 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,880 because when I think about the uncanny Valley theory, 430 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,800 to me, it's like I always wanna go back to 431 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,800 what in human evolution made us feel that way. 432 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,640 For it to be such a human experience 433 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,720 and a natural thing for us to do, 434 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,880 like we're just unsettling. 435 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,960 Like what is it about that came from human evolution 436 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,080 for us to get there? 437 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,320 And that's where we put on our tinfoil hat 438 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,080 in this little theory here is you know, 439 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,480 the further that you go down, you know, 440 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,400 you say like, oh, I don't like going to Madame Tussos 441 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,280 because it really creeps me out. 442 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,880 And you know, they're just waxy and like there's something wrong, 443 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,120 like those don't creep me out as much 444 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,520 because I know their wax and like they're not moving 445 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,760 and no one's trying to convince me that they're real. 446 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,840 But I could see how that would give other people in here. 447 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:59,840 - Oh, it gives me such a meaning. 448 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:00,680 - I can see that. 449 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,360 - Especially if they're bad. 450 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:03,800 Like if they're really good, then I'm like, 451 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,640 oh shit, that really looks like Lady Gaga. 452 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,480 - Yeah. 453 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,320 - And I realize it's like, 454 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,160 - Don't you think Lady Gaga's not look like Lady Gaga? 455 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,640 - It's at different museums. 456 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:11,880 - Okay, different. 457 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,720 We got the very big grade Madame Tussos. 458 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,440 - I think you go to like the dollar store 459 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,240 and like the Uma is, I wanna look at it. 460 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,600 - Okay, 'cause I feel like I've seen 461 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,120 the really bad Madame Tussos. 462 00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:24,120 - The really bad Madame Tussos. 463 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:26,320 - If they're really bad, then it gives me that unease 464 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,480 'cause it's not even close to human like, 465 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,480 but if it looks good, then I'm like, 466 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,680 then I just appreciate for the art that it is. 467 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,360 But I could see how it could give other people 468 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:37,800 like they're too dead behind the eyes. 469 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,560 There's something creepy about it. 470 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,400 - Yeah, yeah. 471 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,520 And there's like a lot of psychological studies 472 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,720 that people have gone through to say like, okay, 473 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,160 what is it? 474 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,480 And they haven't necessarily like nailed down 475 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,640 why they think it is that this phenomenon 476 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,440 happens within us. 477 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,000 Some some sign to say, 478 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,120 hey, we're its pathogen avoidance. 479 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:04,560 So it's our body's trying to say like, okay, don't get sick. 480 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:09,560 Or you know, if it's a kind of a mismatch theory, 481 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,080 it's a threat avoidance and it's all a meat selection. 482 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,360 - The meat selection one is my favorite one 483 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:18,440 because if you see something that's not quite humanoid, 484 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,360 you're like, they can't have my babies. 485 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:22,200 - Yeah. 486 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,640 - I can't insuminate that thing. 487 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,680 - Yeah, where it's like, is it just that, you know, 488 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,840 we, because we've seen it where attractive people 489 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,920 are more than likely to get away with crimes 490 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,440 just because they are attractive. 491 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,960 We're more trusting of people who are attractive. 492 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,800 - We were just talking about this study 493 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,720 that they show kids like a picture of a 494 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,840 conventionally attractive person 495 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,000 and then a conventionally unattractive person, 496 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,920 I guess by whatever societal standards you want to say that. 497 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,640 And the kid, they're like, which one is nicer 498 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,520 and the kid always points to the pretty person? 499 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,240 Which one do you trust more? 500 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,720 Which one's evil? 501 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:02,880 And it's always, yeah. 502 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,440 - Yeah, and it's really, really interesting just to look at it. 503 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,680 And then my and a lot of the darker side 504 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:15,680 of the internet ones, is species recognition. 505 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,680 And so this kind of comes by, if you've heard of 506 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,400 on Cani Valley and you're on the wrong side of the internet, 507 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,760 this is where you get into the lizard people, 508 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,760 the skin walkers, your form, your story, the story. 509 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,960 - I know, I keep bringing it up. 510 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,680 (laughing) 511 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,160 But, you know, I think that it is such an interesting question 512 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:43,160 of why does it create this feeling of unsettlingness 513 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,160 where we've evolved to feel about way. 514 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,920 - I think we've just all day, every day, 515 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,480 it's impossible to avoid seeing another human. 516 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:54,680 Even if you don't leave your house, 517 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,880 you're likely to look in the mirror, right? 518 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,040 You are, unless you've got all the mirrors in your house. 519 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,360 - What are we going to swine? 520 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:03,760 We're going to get full plastic surgery. 521 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,400 - Yeah, right. 522 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,880 Where you're divergent. 523 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,280 Where you're like, I don't remember that. 524 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,240 In that book series, she can't look at herself in the mirror. 525 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,080 And then she finally does. 526 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,600 And it's like, wow, I'm hot. 527 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,120 (laughing) 528 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:18,640 But you can't avoid seeing another human. 529 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,280 So I think even from when we are first born 530 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,200 and we imprint on our mother's faces 531 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,640 and we finally start making eye contact 532 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,000 with our mothers and fathers, 533 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,640 like we realize what a human face is supposed to look like. 534 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,880 What life behind the eyes looks like. 535 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,920 I mean, this is dark too, 536 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,240 but if you see like a dead body, 537 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,680 like it gives kind of that uncanny value 538 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,240 because you know it's a human, 539 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,760 but there's just something missing. 540 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,520 It's that spark of life and you're like, yeah. 541 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,080 - Yeah, I mean, it's a dead body. 542 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:50,920 - I mean, it's a dead body. 543 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:51,760 - I mean, it's a dead body. 544 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:52,760 - I mean, it's a dead body. 545 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,600 - I mean, it's a dead body. 546 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,440 - Yeah. 547 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,280 - Yeah. 548 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,120 (laughing) 549 00:20:58,120 --> 00:20:58,960 - But it also, you're like, 550 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,280 there's just something off about that. 551 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,120 - Yeah. 552 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:01,960 - You could tell the difference 553 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:02,800 between dead and sleeping. 554 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,320 - Yeah, yeah, definitely. 555 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,160 - Yeah, definitely. 556 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,040 - So there are so many instances 557 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,960 within pop culture that we feel this 558 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,320 and we remember. 559 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,360 And so the phenomenon, although it is quite complex 560 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:17,000 and we did not explain it to you in the best, 561 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,000 I guess if you wanna really go into 562 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,400 all of the different representations of it, 563 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,760 we see it all the time and like Elon Musk 564 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,000 was just pictured with this. 565 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,720 - He really must give me like, 566 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,560 - Yeah, yeah. 567 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,680 - And Sam is a person. 568 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,000 - Yeah, Sam, he does give on candy valley. 569 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,320 - But did you see him with that robot lady, 570 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,320 humanoid thing that he was with? 571 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,440 - Like a sex robot? 572 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,560 - Yeah, well, I don't know if that's what I was for, 573 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,920 but he was at a party. 574 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,760 - I mean, yeah, that's obvious what it was for. 575 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,760 - Girl, but. 576 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,600 - Grimes dumped him. 577 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:48,440 - Yeah. 578 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,440 (laughing) 579 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,640 - It was step one, danger grime. 580 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:52,640 - Step two. 581 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,600 - To get stuffy to make you the humanoid. 582 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,800 - Grimes is about as close to dating a robot as you can. 583 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,640 - I would agree with that. 584 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,480 - I love her. 585 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,320 - I would agree with that. 586 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,880 - She's definitely got robot parts to do with that. 587 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,880 - Keep going. 588 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,960 - And, you know, I think there should 589 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,200 just so many different areas and ways that our brains 590 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,600 are kind of working with us evolutionary to try to save us. 591 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,520 But I wanna talk a little bit about 592 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,880 some uncommon spooky movies right after this break. 593 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,720 (dramatic music) 594 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,920 - One of my favorite instances of Uncanny Valley 595 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,160 that kinda comes to mind when I think of the concept 596 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,120 is that movie Polar Express from 2004 with Tom Hanks. 597 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,360 Why didn't they just make it live action? 598 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:37,200 - I don't know. 599 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,840 - Because the character, it's Tom Hanks. 600 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,400 They make like a CG Tom Hanks. 601 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,240 - Yeah. 602 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,840 - They could easily have made this a live action movie 603 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,480 and I think it would have been a lot better, 604 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,640 but it's just, they're trying so hard to make them 605 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,200 look human like that it's so Uncanny and uncomfortable. 606 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,400 Either make it totally live action 607 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,920 or make it a part to-- - Or make it more part to me. 608 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:58,760 - Exactly. 609 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,880 That right there in the middle is just, 610 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,120 see what, sometimes I think it's so interesting 611 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:08,120 'cause my brother and I grew up, same life, obviously. 612 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:09,520 We moved all the same places. 613 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,360 We went to all the same schools, even the same college. 614 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:13,480 - Date of the same guys. 615 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,800 - Yeah, totally. 616 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,480 And so my brother freaking loves this film. 617 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,720 - We love to put it on every Christmas. 618 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,720 - Yeah, it makes me feel like Crampus is coming into the home. 619 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Every time you do this, why are we watching this? 620 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,480 And so it does depend. 621 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,760 I think a lot of people are impacted very differently. 622 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,320 I think one of the ones that really freaks me out 623 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,320 but it does not fit with the Avatar is Cats. 624 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,080 - Oh my God, Cats is so Uncanny Valley. 625 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,880 Because they have human faces. 626 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,720 - Yes. 627 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,640 - It's the actual faces of the actors and actresses, 628 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,880 but then the rest of them is not human. 629 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,720 - Yeah. 630 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,440 - I watched this with my friends a couple years ago 631 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,200 for one of our friends birthday parties made like a sleepover. 632 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,040 - Did you dress up like the Cats to Cats? 633 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,480 - We all had to work cat ears. 634 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,320 - Okay. 635 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,160 - So we all work cat ears. 636 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,000 - Did you feel your face to make sure you weren't 637 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,160 more fit and more? 638 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,880 - We had a drinking game. 639 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,200 So every time they said gelical cats, we had to drink. 640 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,280 - Oh, how fucked up were you? 641 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,120 - So drunk. 642 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:17,960 - Yeah. 643 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,840 - So I've no idea what a gelical cat is in this day. 644 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,560 - I don't know, I don't think I ever actually saw 645 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,400 the Cats music. 646 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,520 - And whenever the actress Elba appears nude on film. 647 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:28,680 - Ooh. 648 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,520 - I mean, I wish. 649 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,360 - I would've watched it for that. 650 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:31,960 - But he's not, but he's a cat. 651 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:32,800 - He's a cat. 652 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,800 - He's a cat. 653 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,800 - He's a cat. 654 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:35,800 - He's just a cat. 655 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,440 - So he's not quite naked. 656 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,080 It's just, it's not appropriate. 657 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,360 - Okay, so we were very drunk. 658 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,920 - If it was the wire, each of us Elba. 659 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,760 - Ooh. 660 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,520 - Or the Luther each of us Elba. 661 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,360 - Okay. 662 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,960 Well, that took me away from my cat. 663 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,960 - Not cats, not cats. 664 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,800 - Not cats. 665 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,360 - No, but literally if you could probably convince me 666 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:56,760 Taylor Swift is evil, if the only image I ever saw of her 667 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,080 was hers that cat. 668 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:58,920 - With her cat boobs. 669 00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,760 - Yeah. 670 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,320 (laughs) 671 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,320 - I also hated it. 672 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,720 - We would take away my love of hers. 673 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:04,560 - And just go for a photography. 674 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,400 If that was the only image I ever saw of her. 675 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,560 - Just in your head. 676 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,480 - I also hate when they give female cartoon characters 677 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,880 breasts. 678 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,040 - Okay. 679 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,720 - This is a total different tangent. 680 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,560 - Yeah. 681 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,200 - But like if you watch old Hannah Barbra cartoon, 682 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,840 it's like the girl chicken comes up. 683 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,480 She's got like chicken tints. 684 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,880 (laughs) 685 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,920 It makes no sense. 686 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,360 And the guy chicken just looks like a chicken. 687 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:29,880 And she walks up and she's got like a D cup 688 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,400 and like big lips. 689 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,480 - And she's like, "You're doing Danny chicken tints." 690 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,200 - Yes, and like, dude, like we talked about the fish 691 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,880 from Charles Taylor. 692 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,800 - Okay, that's a fuck up old fish. 693 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,080 - Why does she have to be fuckable 694 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,040 and the other fish is just like, 695 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,880 but she's the Angelina Jolie fish. 696 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,600 - It says she but don't give animals tits. 697 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,440 - Yeah, okay. 698 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,280 - That's it. 699 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,760 - That's the end of the episode. 700 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,760 - That's the end of the episode. 701 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,840 - So tune in next week for another episode. 702 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,840 - Yeah, the other example of 703 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,240 Candy Valley that I really like. 704 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,640 And the fans made this one better. 705 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,480 So when the first trailer for Sonic the Hedgehog kind of, 706 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,080 he looked too human like. 707 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:09,920 - Okay. 708 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,360 - He had like human teeth like chompers. 709 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:16,920 - I remember the outrage, but I don't remember the image. 710 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:17,920 - It was awful. 711 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,920 I'll show it to you after this. 712 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,720 - Maybe it's because of my fear of Uncanny Valley. 713 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,360 - Yeah. - But like, I just hate it so much. 714 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:25,120 - The internet freaked out because 715 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:28,240 it didn't look like Sonic from the cartoon, 716 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,480 the video game, his eyes were far apart like a humans. 717 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,840 So he had like a bridge between his eyes, he had teeth. 718 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,840 And everyone was like, that's not Sonic the Hedgehog. 719 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,360 I don't know what the fuck that thing is, 720 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:42,720 but get it away from me. 721 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,960 Kill it with fire. 722 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,800 So because the internet freaked out so much, 723 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,000 the changed the movie and replaced him 724 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,800 and made him look like the Sonic that we know and love. 725 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,320 And then it's going on to have, 726 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,440 it's the third movie for some reason. 727 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,520 I don't know, I've been seen in movies. 728 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,160 Hey, the fans got that Uncanny Valley change. 729 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,000 - Right. 730 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,000 Some really popular culture, Uncanny Valley examples include 731 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,360 on top of, you know, polar express. 732 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:11,680 That's probably the most renowned. 733 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,520 - Yeah. 734 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,360 - Red House. 735 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:16,200 - As a monster house. 736 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,400 I don't think I ever saw that one. 737 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,240 - Never seen that one. 738 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,240 - Beowulf. 739 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,400 - Which, yeah, it, you've got to say. 740 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,400 - Again, another movie. 741 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,240 Like why? 742 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,720 - Make your life action. 743 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,400 - Yeah, and I think this goes into the AI argument 744 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,920 of selling digital likeness. 745 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,760 - Yeah. 746 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,920 - Now I think it really does become like, 747 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,520 because sometimes when you do look at these AI 748 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,040 created images, like people who make their AI 749 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,680 LinkedIn like headshot or whatever. 750 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,520 - Oh gosh. 751 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,360 - You did. 752 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:47,840 - They did me Uncanny Valley because the eyes. 753 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,680 - I miss the eyes. 754 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,520 - The eyes. 755 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,520 - It's the eyes, yeah. 756 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,360 - I think that's it. 757 00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:53,560 - It's the window to the human soul and life, 758 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,480 whatever you believe. 759 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,560 But like it's always in the eyes that you can tell 760 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,200 that something is not real. 761 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,200 - Yeah. 762 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,600 - Another one that I like is Tron Legacy. 763 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,240 I really like that movie, but they de-age Jeff Bridges 764 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,840 and de-aged characters have gotten so much better 765 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,680 over the years. 766 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,520 - Yeah. 767 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,360 - Now it's just a filter, baby. 768 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:11,200 - Right, literally. 769 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,960 - I'm moving it to my self-on-chat, 770 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,360 - Yeah, this is what we look like. 771 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,280 (laughing) 772 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,560 - Yeah, well that's actually a really interesting point. 773 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,200 Like are we going to lose that the more and more we get 774 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,400 a part of filters in filter face? 775 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,240 - Right, and I think so. 776 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,240 I mean, you can tell for the most part still. 777 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,360 Okay, that person filtered their face. 778 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:34,880 That person used face to the extreme. 779 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,960 - Like seven times. 780 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,800 - Yeah, but seven times? 781 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,640 - Seven times. 782 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,320 - It's a part to tell. 783 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,960 - It is, it's getting better, but yeah. 784 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,360 It is kind of interesting to think about that. 785 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,360 And as we move into a filter world on social media, 786 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,560 - In plastic surgery. 787 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,520 - In plastic surgery. 788 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,680 I mean, have you, okay, two people who I maybe real people, 789 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,520 I don't know. 790 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,360 - I don't know. 791 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,200 - I don't know. 792 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,600 JD Vance and Mad Gates. 793 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,440 - Okay. 794 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,600 - Laura. 795 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,680 - Mad Gates is plastic surgery. 796 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,520 - Oh my God. 797 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,360 - That is so much. 798 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,160 - Is literally the villain from Incredible. 799 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,680 - Okay, will you see him recently? 800 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,520 - Not recently. 801 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,440 - Is it eyebrows or what? 802 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,840 - Yes, it's scary. 803 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,560 - You know what's so funny is we're like, 804 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,440 we're not gonna, we're not gonna body shape anymore. 805 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,160 - I'm like, I'm gonna fucking out of my pants. 806 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,280 - They're my sad, shunistic, fascist, 807 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,120 - Yeah. 808 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:26,960 - That we will body shape. 809 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:27,800 - You deserve it. 810 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,800 You deserve all the shape. 811 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,640 - Yeah. 812 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,760 - Yes, it's like at what point do plastic surgery trends 813 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,040 take over and go so far that people don't look humanoid anymore? 814 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,120 They don't look like humans anymore. 815 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:39,960 - So yeah. 816 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,920 - If you remove all of your buccal fat 817 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,360 in your eyebrows or to your hairline and like, 818 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,800 at what point do you see someone go, 819 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,240 that's not quite a human anymore. 820 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,400 - Yeah, no, Google Mac Gates is new face. 821 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,800 - It's unsettling. 822 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,840 It's the scariest thing in the world. 823 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,440 Right before I came here, I was watching the VP debate. 824 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,520 - And it's my gaze at the VP debate. 825 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,360 - I'm a big fan. 826 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,200 - A bunch of fans. 827 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,920 - I don't know if it's the eyeliner. 828 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,680 I don't know if it's his inability 829 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,280 to have a normal human conversation. 830 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,760 - Say any just a terrible person. 831 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,880 - Coming from child freak. 832 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,720 - No freak at, ladies. 833 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,840 - He just can't, like he doesn't speak 834 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,120 at a rhythmic pace of a human being. 835 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,280 Like, we're two people who speak for a living. 836 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,120 - We do. 837 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:20,960 - And for better words. 838 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,800 - Yeah, for better words. 839 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,800 And like, I, I, I, it freaks me out. 840 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:25,880 Like I don't, I don't know. 841 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,840 - His voice gives you uncanny down. 842 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,760 - Just know all of it. 843 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,640 All of it, like literally. 844 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,200 - I've never believed in a lizard person till then, you know? 845 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,440 Like, oh my God. 846 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,080 - We're getting deep in the kids' work in so far. 847 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,400 - I love it so much. 848 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,040 - Maybe I'll watch it tonight when I get home. 849 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,880 I don't know. 850 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,440 I need a glass of wine in a nap. 851 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,440 - I don't think you need more politics. 852 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,440 - I'm so exhausted. 853 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,880 (laughing) 854 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,400 - Another really one that I think is kind of 855 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,840 a newer reference is Megan. 856 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,480 - And I, that one was okay for me because she's supposed 857 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,320 to be a doll. 858 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,160 - Yeah. 859 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,280 - So that one, I think she looks doll enough. 860 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,280 - Exactly. 861 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,840 - Where it's not so creepy. 862 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,000 - I totally agree. 863 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,200 But I can see how it could give other people the ilk. 864 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,400 Like, but I thought it was, I thought it was well done. 865 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,400 - Yeah. 866 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,000 - Justice League 2017, they digitally removed 867 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,680 Henry Cavill's mustache. 868 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,880 I mean, one of the scenes when he's Superman. 869 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,640 And it's so obvious. 870 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,120 And this is a delicious man. 871 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,320 This is maybe one of the most handsome men I've ever seen. 872 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,160 - I would agree about that. 873 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,320 - He's insanely good looking. 874 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,760 But his upper lip is just so smooth and large. 875 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,920 And like, and we know that's not what he looks like 876 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,400 because our brains can recover. 877 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,560 Looks like, I don't know. 878 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,040 - I'm pretty good at that one. 879 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,720 - My dreams know what Henry Cavill looks like. 880 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,960 - Yeah. 881 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,120 Anyway. 882 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,640 - Sorry, if we lost her there for a second. 883 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,880 - Come back. 884 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,760 - So it's just, his upper lip gave everybody a candy valley. 885 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,120 Okay, I was, I saw, like, I knew that this was a popular one 886 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,360 on the list, but I was like, how is Henry Cavill? 887 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,600 I'm Candy Valley. 888 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,960 - It's the mustache removal. 889 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,800 - Okay. 890 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,640 - I think that's it. 891 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,840 It's because we know what he's supposed to look like. 892 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,680 - Okay. 893 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,240 - And the film is trying to convince us 894 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,120 that this is what he looks like. 895 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,960 - Okay. 896 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,800 - I think that's a lot of it too. 897 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,800 It's like, when you know you're trying, 898 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,240 they're trying to get away with it. 899 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,320 They can't keep getting away with this. 900 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,360 They're trying to convince us these are humans 901 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,600 and we know they're not humans. 902 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,440 (laughing) 903 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,160 - And I know I mentioned Rogue One earlier, 904 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,880 but like Grand Moft Harkin was also a complete CG character. 905 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,720 - Okay. 906 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,640 - And it looked almost exactly like the actor, 907 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,960 but just smooth enough that it wasn't quite right. 908 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,160 - It was too soft. 909 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,160 - He was too soft. 910 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,400 - He was too soft for us. 911 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,400 - Too soft, blah, blah. 912 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,240 - He's too soft for us. 913 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,200 - And no life behind those eyeballs. 914 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,120 - Well, you know what's interesting is, 915 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,000 did you ever watch Usworld? 916 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,920 - The first two seasons that were amazing. 917 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,920 All of a sudden it went down. 918 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,120 - Then I got a little cookie at the sea. 919 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,400 - Usworld didn't give me Uncanny Valley. 920 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,240 - No. 921 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,320 - Like it is kind of unsettling to think, 922 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,440 like, oh, those are robots. 923 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,400 And that's where the Uncanny Valley theory comes from. 924 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,720 But of course they are played by real actors. 925 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,920 - And I think that's the thing is, 926 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,120 they don't add anything to them to make them look 927 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,440 not human or not human. 928 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,560 Until obviously their faces open up. 929 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,720 But then that's just a robot. 930 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,960 - Yeah, but even when I just see them with just the face skin on 931 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,080 and then the body, 932 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,480 it does give me that feeling. 933 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,240 But like certain things like where it's like, 934 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,960 I don't know. 935 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,320 - It's really so close. 936 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,720 - It's so close and it's not right. 937 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,120 That's when our brain can pick it apart. 938 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,000 Because we know in that show, 939 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,680 like you said, if it's just a robot with like a face on it, 940 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,920 we know no one's trying to convince us that's a human. 941 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,760 We're like, oh, that's a fine robot. 942 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,760 I know a robot when I see one, that's a robot. 943 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,600 - Wait till Elon gets that final skin on that girl. 944 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,320 - That's sex robot. 945 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,360 - Sex robots, like that definitely give me Uncanny Valley. 946 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,120 Like if you see like in Japan, 947 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,800 there's a lot of Tynashidolls. 948 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,840 I don't know what they're called. 949 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,840 - Oh gosh, I don't know the exact name for it. 950 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,520 But like they're really human-like. 951 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,120 - We went to a sex shop and we saw some of these, 952 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,280 at least Andrew did, I wasn't allowed on that floor. 953 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,760 - No, there's no women allowed. 954 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,600 - Yes. 955 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,040 - But he said they looked pretty realistic, 956 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,640 like not quite there. 957 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,880 - Yeah, I could see that. 958 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,440 - So I could see that. 959 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,600 - Now a robot film that really does, 960 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,560 kind of give me Uncanny Valley is I Robot. 961 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,840 - Because their faces are too human-like. 962 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,160 - Yeah, but they're, yeah, they're like in that dip of it. 963 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,760 - But again, they're small. 964 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,600 They're small. 965 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,440 - They're too small. 966 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,280 - They're too small. 967 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,200 - Smooth, I don't know, I don't know. 968 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,360 I think it's a really interesting breakdown of it. 969 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,200 - Yeah. 970 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,280 - Of what does and what doesn't. 971 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,760 I would love to hear the fans if there's something 972 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,760 that we said that does. 973 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,600 - Yeah, better work. 974 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,440 - No, that's fine. 975 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,800 - We're totally missing it. 976 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,640 - Yeah. 977 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,360 - All of those Claymation movies with the Jack Frost 978 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,040 in the little Santa. 979 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,080 - Those do it for me. 980 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,680 The Beetlejuice Far, Beetlejuice Beetlejuice 981 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,080 with the Claymation. 982 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,640 - I think that you might just be afraid of Claymation. 983 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,640 - I am. 984 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,160 And it's Uncanny Valley. 985 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,440 - I really hope someone listening understands it, but. 986 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,160 - Never get Olivia Plato. 987 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,320 - I like to play with Plato. 988 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,080 - But I was an artistic enough to make them look real. 989 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,240 - It looks like shit, I like it. 990 00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,000 (laughing) 991 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,520 - That looks nothing like a human. 992 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,360 - That's great. 993 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,200 - It's not a horse. 994 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,040 - That's great. 995 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,080 - What if I was a master at Clay sculptures, 996 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,760 but they just freaked me out so much 997 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,960 in the child that I destroyed them all? 998 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,480 - And I never knew it. 999 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,680 - Or every time you make one, you're like, it's too good. 1000 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,000 It must be true. 1001 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,320 (laughing) 1002 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,840 - Rip it's head off. 1003 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,920 - You can't exist in this world. 1004 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,680 - I love the kid from my toy store. 1005 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,960 - I love the evil one. 1006 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,840 - I cut it in your house and you're just surrounded 1007 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,160 by perfectly molded clay heads. 1008 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,640 And you're like, they're too good shot, 1009 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,960 but I can't stop. 1010 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:54,800 - It can't stop. 1011 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,240 - It's actually what I was in the hospital, guys. 1012 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,240 - I don't like how many Claymations. 1013 00:35:58,240 --> 00:35:59,080 (laughing) 1014 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,360 - I believe these hands. 1015 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,200 - These dirty, dirty hands. 1016 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,480 (laughing) 1017 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,200 - Did you ever see us, the film with Jordan Peel? 1018 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,240 - Yeah, that one didn't get me on Candymalley, 1019 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:09,880 but also I saw that movie drunk. 1020 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,000 - Oh, okay. 1021 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,840 - I don't know why. 1022 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,720 - I do have this theory that, okay, 1023 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:17,040 there's a delicate balance of seeing a horror movie drunk. 1024 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,120 - And if you're a little bit tipsy, 1025 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,840 it is so much scarier. 1026 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,960 - Yeah, I agree. 1027 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,840 - Like if you watched the strangers, 1028 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,640 like one or two beers deep. 1029 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,640 - We should do that. 1030 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,680 I haven't seen that movie years. 1031 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,520 - Oh, ooh. 1032 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,040 - And I remember it made me really sad. 1033 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,560 - Apparently the new one is so bad. 1034 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,400 - Really. 1035 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,120 - It's so bad, but if you guys want us to, 1036 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,760 we will watch it for you because 1037 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,040 there's so much we love you. 1038 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,480 - Let's watch, yeah, for a related horror movies. 1039 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,120 Let's, okay, let's watch the strangers 1040 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,640 after we both get like slightly tipsy next time we know. 1041 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:49,480 - Yeah, no, I promise you. 1042 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,720 - Next time I have a day that I could exist. 1043 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:52,960 - We do not condone underage drinking. 1044 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,920 - No, we are both in our 30s. 1045 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,760 - We are. 1046 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,360 - Oh, ladies over here. 1047 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,400 - But if you are of age covering the grains. 1048 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,600 - Yeah, if you are of age, 1049 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,200 have one or two beers before you watch a horror movie 1050 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,840 and it will scare you more. 1051 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,720 I don't know what it is. 1052 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:09,680 You would think that I would like, like. 1053 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,000 - Damn, don't you doubt it. 1054 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,200 - I wonder if you watch any of these movies 1055 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,240 on the uncanny valley list after like one or two drinks, 1056 00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:18,400 if they just look perfectly human to you. 1057 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,400 (laughing) 1058 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,240 - Were they scared me? 1059 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:22,080 - I would love it. 1060 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:22,920 - I would love it. 1061 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,400 - They might scare me more. 1062 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,240 - You watch Polar Express and you're like, 1063 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:27,800 those are real people. 1064 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,200 - If the CIA ever watches this there, 1065 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,600 then I'm gonna need climations. 1066 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,080 And we're gonna torture this woman. 1067 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:35,920 - For signs. 1068 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,760 - For signs. 1069 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,280 (laughing) 1070 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,120 - I don't think you'll ever get tortured. 1071 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,520 - Yeah, let's hope so. 1072 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,720 - What do you think, are we good here? 1073 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:49,240 (laughing) 1074 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:50,080 - To a toesie. 1075 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,240 - This is for the fun one. 1076 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:52,080 - This is for the fun one. 1077 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,440 - Okay, so on, what about the matrix? 1078 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,920 Did the agents ever give you? 1079 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,040 - I'm gonna make it a confession here 1080 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,840 as a pop culture junkie. 1081 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,360 I've seen the first matrix loved it. 1082 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,200 - Okay. 1083 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,400 - I saw the second one. 1084 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,120 Board to tears. 1085 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:09,960 - Okay. 1086 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,320 - So I was like, I can't finish this. 1087 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,320 We have to find something else to do. 1088 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,160 - I thought you were gonna say 1089 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,160 you'd never seen the first matrix. 1090 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,160 - Oh, I saw the first one. 1091 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,480 - Girl, what are we doing here? 1092 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,760 - So boring for some reason. 1093 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,880 But I know there's that scene where they, 1094 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,960 there's a million of the same guy. 1095 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,280 Is that on the first one? 1096 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,720 - That's on the second one. 1097 00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:27,200 - And those gave me on Candy Valley. 1098 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,360 - Okay, because there's so many of them. 1099 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,360 - Because there's so many people. 1100 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,200 - Yeah. 1101 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,200 - And they're trying to convince us that like, 1102 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,720 yeah, they're real. 1103 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:33,560 - Okay. 1104 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,240 - On the note of the matrix two, 1105 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,440 I would agree with you, not great. 1106 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,040 However, when they're freaking clubbing in the matrix 1107 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,960 in that scene, I wanna be there so bad. 1108 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:46,800 - Oh yeah. 1109 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,640 - That scene where they're undergrossing. 1110 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,680 - Yeah, it's so good. 1111 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,840 - But like literally, I think about that all the time. 1112 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,800 Like if I could be in like one crazy club scene, 1113 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,960 we're gonna do it for Halloween. 1114 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:58,800 - Yeah. 1115 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,080 - We're gonna go to a crazy club dressed as bar maidens. 1116 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:02,920 - Yeah. 1117 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,200 (laughing) 1118 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,200 - Unfortunately. 1119 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,000 (laughing) 1120 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,040 - Olivia and I were trying to make a good Halloween costume 1121 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,320 and we really wanted to be characters from Killville, 1122 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,560 but our friend and the group costume 1123 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,560 is never seen Killville. 1124 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,960 - We're working on it. 1125 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,160 We're also trying to change her mind on some other things 1126 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,760 in our life as well. 1127 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,840 - But mostly Killville. 1128 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:24,920 - But mostly Killville. 1129 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:25,760 - Okay. 1130 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,600 - Let's wrap this shit up. 1131 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,200 We're going up in so many tangents today. 1132 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,040 - We love that. 1133 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,840 Well, you know, while we don't necessarily understand 1134 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,120 why uncanny valley happens to us, 1135 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,120 my personal belief is aliens. 1136 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,440 I wanna hear aliens. 1137 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,200 - No, I think the aliens make it absolute. 1138 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,040 - Yeah. 1139 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,320 - Like at some point in the world, 1140 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,080 we encountered aliens and we had to figure out 1141 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,680 why the hell this happened. 1142 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,520 - Mm-hmm. 1143 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,560 - We're like, there's something about them 1144 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,400 that I don't like. 1145 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,240 (laughing) 1146 00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,160 - Something about the season. 1147 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,280 - Not quite right. 1148 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,600 And you know, whether the aliens are the ones 1149 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,200 making the Polar Express movie, 1150 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,800 the lizard people, the JD Vances of the world, 1151 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,760 you know, all we care about is no more climbation. 1152 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,160 Seriously, I mean, please stop. 1153 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,320 - I like climbation. 1154 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,400 (laughing) 1155 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,960 - Sean O'Wall would be your one and only. 1156 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:15,800 - Yeah. 1157 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,640 - Ticket producer. 1158 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,200 - But these examples span across media, films, 1159 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,120 TV shows. 1160 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,760 We even see it within video games. 1161 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,800 And it really demonstrates all these different 1162 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,120 psychological effects that we have 1163 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,440 that we don't really understand the phenomenons behind. 1164 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,320 - The human mind is an enigma. 1165 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,280 (laughing) 1166 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,280 - It's true. 1167 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,760 (laughing) 1168 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,760 I don't know why I said it like that, but I did. 1169 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,200 (laughing) 1170 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,000 - Sorry, my hospital brain is an hour here, I know. 1171 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,560 - It's a hospital brain mixed with campaign brain. 1172 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,000 - Yeah, I don't know. 1173 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:51,840 - I don't know. 1174 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,400 - We're both doing great, sweetie. 1175 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,680 - Well, I think that's enough time for us 1176 00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,000 in this uncanny valley and for us to rejoin the human race 1177 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,080 or whatever, hopefully not the aliens or the gay people. 1178 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:03,920 - The gay people. 1179 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:04,760 - Yeah. 1180 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:10,200 And we want you lovely humans to find us on social media, 1181 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,480 Shauna, where can they find us? 1182 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,560 - You can @shaunatrinidad on Instagram 1183 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,280 and we'll just stick with Instagram right now. 1184 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,120 - Okay. 1185 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,720 S-H-A-U-N-A-T-R-I-N-I-D-A-D. 1186 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:23,560 - Boom. 1187 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,440 And you can find me, Olivia, on Instagram, 1188 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,440 @livimariez, L-I-V-I-M-A-R-I-E-Z. 1189 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,920 And don't forget, you can find the pop culture junkie podcast, 1190 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,880 social media links, and more on our website, 1191 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,800 popculturejunkie.com. 1192 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,080 From there, you can find our podcast on all platforms 1193 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,880 and you can follow, subscribe, rate, review. 1194 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,240 Obviously, do it all. 1195 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:50,560 - Or the gay, no, los toros. 1196 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,280 - Yeah, really the five star reviews, 1197 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,040 or any reviews, hopefully they're all nice. 1198 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,400 Do help us, they get a scene by other people, 1199 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,200 by real human people, not humanoids. 1200 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,760 - 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