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People pay good money to see this movie.

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Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring.

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What the, this moment.

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42 regular wasn't?

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Challenging into single combat.

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Hey folks, welcome to a special episode

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of the projection booth.

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I'm in this episode.

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I'm talking with Nate Orlov.

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He is an editor.

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He's been editing for a long time.

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As done, a lot of things that you have properly seen.

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Have a scene, 10-cloverfield Lane.

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Have a scene, the Force Awakens.

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He worked on those.

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Have a scene, John Wick 4.

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Maybe maybe not because that movie is just about to drop.

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He is the editor of that.

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And he was a great person to talk with.

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I hope you enjoyed me in a real.

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I am super excited to talk with you.

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I'm a fan of the John Wick film.

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But before we even talk about the latest John Wick,

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can you tell me a little bit about you

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and are you gotten to the business?

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I felt love with making dumb high school

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and went to film school.

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I got my big break as a assistant editor

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and 10-center at Bat Robot.

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So worked on films like Star Trek and The Darkness, Force Awakens.

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So just little indie films.

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And yeah, indie film.

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No, it was a very, very lucky to have gotten some opportunities there.

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And to sort of grow.

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I kind of looked at that as like getting a master's degree.

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Like I was in the back of the room running

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all the visual effects reviews for those movies.

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And so to watch every single visual effect shot

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from version 0 to version 57 with JJ talking about

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like what to do with the shot was like a master class

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of just storytelling.

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And James was like just visual how he would add things for to make

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sure you knew with a scale of how some big something was.

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He wants something of tree.

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You know, all the little tricks and wonderful visual things

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that this part of his brain.

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And then I started editing a little bit.

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10-Clorid Jail Lane.

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I was in No Orleans.

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And after that, I was going to give the opportunity

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to edit Ghost Busters after life with Dana Cobberman.

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where John had kind of like I landed in every chat

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and we really just hit it off.

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Why editing?

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No, what even got you interested in that?

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Was there a particular thing that you saw?

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We were just like, wow, that's amazing.

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This is really stupid.

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This is a really dumb example from my first first film.

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This was a Star Wars fan film.

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I had like a body pillow where I put the guys clothes on.

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that his head fell off.

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it for a lack of a better word.

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What was your first solo feature film that you edited all yourself?

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It was his wonderful little film called Different Flowers.

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When I was at Bad Robot, JJ's assistant Morgan Dameron,

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who was Houtsout Poe Dameron got the name Dameron.

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We were both wanting to grow and do something different.

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She raised my kickstarter.

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We did this little road trip system movie.

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And I still loved to this day.

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And those were my first solo feature.

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You also edited worm, whichever I remember really liking.

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Oh, I'm so glad you liked worm.

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I adore that movie.

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That was a fun movie.

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How do you approach a project like John Wick?

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And I think I read on your Twitter earlier

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that you've been working on since June of last year.

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That's when I flew to Berlin, June of 2021.

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So it's been a long, long journey.

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One of the things I think was unique about Chad and the approach on this movie

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is that he didn't want someone that is edited at a time action films.

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And he told me this later, you know, way later, he's like, you know, what we're talking about.

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I don't know why we brought up talking about the interview that I had with him.

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He wanted someone that would approach this from a kind of a fresh perspective.

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So he told me the films that he loved and the styles that he loved and this samurai, Western,

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anime and also he's a huge channel of musicals.

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So on the flight to Berlin, I watched Singing in the Rain, which is one of his favorite films.

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And I was off-struck in the editing style in that it's just the edits are around the dancing.

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The edits are almost avoiding dancing, where it's just showing you what the moves are.

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Showing you how talented these people are cut next move.

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And it's not emphasizing a move.

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It's not emphasizing to this.

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And so my entire ethos on this project was to show off how good Kianos, how good is stunt

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team is.

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I wasn't trying to make something better.

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I was editing around it.

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So it'd be hit and then someone slides cut, then they move forward.

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It's never on the action.

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And so my whole process on this was to sort of get out of the way of how talented these people

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are just to show it.

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And that's from amazing.

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Yeah, there's that clip of a Liam Neeson jumping over fence and it takes like the 2016 cuts.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, this was the end of the system that.

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I really didn't tend to be the end of the system that.

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So passion, you've been working this over almost two solid years.

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That is wild.

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I mean, tell me, like, are you cutting daily?

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Like, what's your process to put this whole thing together?

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That's crazy to me.

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And the cool thing is that, you know, this was a movie that didn't necessarily change a lot

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in like restructuring or it didn't require a letter of imagining or reshudes or something

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like that.

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There's only certain ways it can be put together where they will do enough takes and you

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have, by the end, they do really have one, maybe two that are really really good all the

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And then they just move on.

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And then they just, unless like a dialogue or drama where it's like, sure, you get three or four

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takes and maybe there's one gem and take one, maybe there's one.

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So I would, I would really try to just stay on one.

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So even if there was one move that was great and take one for his one beat, I didn't use it.

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I rather use the big long take.

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And so, in a certain way, there's only certain ways these things can be cut.

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And so the process is all about sort of trimming.

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And what are the best beats?

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Let's only really keep the best beats.

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That's actually easier said than done in terms of that's why it's in the process takes a

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And a lot of times it'd be effects.

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There's a big sequence around the arc to triumph.

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All the car hits are real.

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But it's the background that was replaced.

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They shot in a parking lot in Berlin or a tarmac like an airport.

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there, the sequence kind of took a different shape.

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And there's this kinetic energy there at the whole film and the action's not stopped.

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So it's more about just condensing as much as we could over time.

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Now, during my break to that a lot of the muscle flashes that those are all put in post.

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All of them.

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Yeah, Chad's not believe in blanks on set.

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He worked on the grow.

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That was one of his first films that he worked on.

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need for blanks on set.

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There's no need.

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It was all digital blood.

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It's one of those things like you know, you do have to do digital blood at some point.

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But then you start, if you start blending, practical and not, there are some shots that have

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blood that's there.

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There's nothing that's explosive.

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Either someone's already dead and lying on the ground.

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Part of it is like, with shots, starts on there's blood there.

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But so then you create a style around what that blood looks like.

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a guy, I look at the movies and so it's driving.

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He's a huge fan of busker keating.

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And in some ways, like there's these, this comedy to these, the action where you're just

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more impressed at the stunt work and the moves, you're not supposed to be grossed out.

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So the blood is very like misty.

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And that's a potential designed by Chad.

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It's never just like flirting and this, there are definitely moments where you're like

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supposed to be really grossed out.

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But it's actually surprisingly not really a lot of the gunheads.

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So I'm mentioning for economic reasons, you would probably put together an entire sequence and

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then handed over to the special effects team to put in the blood, the muscle flashes, all that

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or am I completely off base?

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We discovered very early on that, what was so important in editorial was sound first.

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And we needed editorial to dictate the vessel flashes.

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So everything is like, all right, where's the gunshot?

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Where's the hit?

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She just likes, it was like, you know, beautiful mind.

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It's like, is that what she was like, you see, she became like the person, she had these

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tracking dots in Abbott, like tracking it.

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The muscle flashes, next frame, that's where it hits.

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was good in terms of the scene.

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We didn't want to have the effects start putting stuff in all the stuff and then we free it back.

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And then we have to cut sound to it and then we discovered that the rhythm is wrong.

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So we did it the other way where we sort of dictated from sound and editorial where the

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muscle flashes and it backs, you know, go.

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Almost something like a symphony of violence.

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It was absolutely the timelines our bananas in terms of like, you know, I thought Ghostbusters

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was complicated sound wise.

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Every gunshot, there's, you know, what it hits and effort, you know, like there's like five

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sound effects that happen, you know, and so it's just like, you know, it gets to act as

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the end of the timeline.

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It's just like sound effects like raw.

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I've heard relationship between an editor and a director to be kind of like a marriage where

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you just have to work together to try to make something from these two disparate personalities.

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What's been your experience as far as working with directors?

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I mean, everyone is so different.

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And to me, they all have their different things that they emphasize different things.

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They notice Jason, for instance, he would notice if I did a three frame trim on a close-up.

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He is so rhythm and emotionality and the character focused on these things where he knows

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the timing so well and he's a great memory for that.

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That is a little more big picture, but also incredibly micro with edits around action.

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And that's, I mean, him and I were incredibly in sync on is the level of double cuts.

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And I'm so glad that he gave me those movies at front to get and I was at the same page,

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like these sort of old Jackie Chan movies, again, where you see things.

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There's a double cut.

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So you actually notice what's happening.

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It's not trying to speed it up.

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It's not cheating.

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It's actually the opposite.

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You're slowing the scene down when you have two or three frames of overlap on a cut so that you know this.

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And so him and I were incredibly in sync with those things.

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There's also different relationships with directors where I could spend all day with Jason, for instance.

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And he'd be in the edit room and he'd be on his laptop for a minute and I'd be like, hey, I'll show you this.

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But we're well, Chad would very much like we'd had like really intense hour or two.

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And then he'd go away like having to be for a long time and add tons and tons of things to do.

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And then at the end of the day, I come back each show and we have another intense maybe 30 minutes to an hour.

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It was these like very intense small chunks of time versus like,

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because like editing in front of someone can sometimes be just sort of like,

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"Experimenting this is weird and it's giving me a minute.

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It's sometimes hard and you know, Chad knows when to step away and sort of like, don't let you do your thing."

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Yeah, I'm so glad to hear about those Jackie Chan movies because that was so important.

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Just the way that those Hong Kong films would really just emphasize like you said,

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"These stunts are just so incredible.

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Why not show the actors and show them doing this and for one understand,

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can a Reeves is like right out there with the best of them doing these stunts?"

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No, absolutely.

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And he is such high standards for himself too.

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Some of the most interesting things that I learned from Chad too is to let imperfections live.

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There are times where it's done men in the background might not have nailed this exact timing,

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but again, is it worth a cut?

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Is it worth like breaking it up to make it more feel more artificial?

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And then he has this belief as like, "People are enjoying them.

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Maybe they're just gonna enjoy it."

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And it was so crazy to be a premier last night and then it was like, "Yeah, people, they just go with it.

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It's great. I'm not stickler for continuity."

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And it's all in that spectrum of maybe just as a matter of age you're enjoying the film.

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You're enjoying the spectacle.

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Yeah, I don't care if the cigarette goes from two inches to three back to one.

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Tell me a story.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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And if you are noticing those things, someone fucked up.

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Chad and Wicke is known for the action, but there's also a lot of story.

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There's mythology that goes throughout all these films.

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How is it balancing the two between those slower moments and then those, we start to ramp up

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the action.

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We start to really dive into these things.

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I mean, is there a point where just like, "Okay, it feels like we need to move forward now?"

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Or, "How does that that relationship happen?"

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That's one of the harder parts that took time to really sort of hold down the stuff.

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Because of the story, especially in this one, I guess they're all in every genre.

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It's very litigier.

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It's very, this happens in his hammons and his hammons.

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And if you remove one of those pieces, stuff stops making sense.

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So it was some experimentation in what we could lift.

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But the main thing was to always let those scenes be great scenes.

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There were definitely times where we pushed too far for the sake of trying to make the movie

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shorter.

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And we realized we broke it.

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We broke the scene.

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Sure, maybe the movie got two minutes shorter.

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But now you're rushing through the scene and you're, it actually feels longer.

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The movie feels longer because the scenes are worse.

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And so that we really just focused on honing and on making the scene as captivating as

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a possibly could.

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And then what I was trying to do constantly was always make sure every single scene flowed at the end.

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So it just naturally propels you into the other thing.

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So that you're left with some point in thought on these tender moments, especially in the first

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half, John's contemplating the consequences of his actions that his rampage is hurting people

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that he cares about.

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And we need to feel that with him.

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I've found it very funny.

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People complaining about two hours and forty-nine minutes or something.

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And I'm just like, I want to follow with films.

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So this is a walk in the park.

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I'm just, obviously, a little bit surprised about a post-avatar way of water like that people are

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talking about this run time so much.

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And also, it's without credits.

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It's only two hours and forty minutes.

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But it was a big battle internally in terms of what's the right running time for the

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film in terms of, and even watch it last night.

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I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do.

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You start either again, you start breaking things.

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If you start lifting story beats.

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Okay, yes, we could rush through the scene a little bit, but you're not going to feel it as

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much.

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Were you into action movies before doing this project?

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Oh, absolutely.

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No, I'm honestly a big fan of all genres.

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And I'm sure it didn't help Chad building that my background was in these sci-fi action films

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and go spusters.

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I would say it's an action adventure family movie, not completely out of my real house or

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where I'm around.

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And that was something that was I really relied on a lot as is being a system around Barry

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Joe Markey and Mary and Brandon who were experts at Clary in action because action seems

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to me have this fun thing where Mary Joe expected to me, you should be able to explain to a

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five year old.

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That's not looking at the movie.

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What's happening in each show?

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And it could be a simple sentence of John Runt stops looks.

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Cut.

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Show up.

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And there's these little stories and narratives you create an action and it has to be crystal clear.

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And so that's to me where I find my pacing in my rhythm is not just cutting of a cutting

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sake is like if you were writing in this all down in a story, each shot is a sentence,

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what is it saying and making sure that you get it.

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Each shot has a point.

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Otherwise you just cut into the same kind of thing.

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You said to you, flow over to Berlin, were you over in Berlin this whole time?

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Yeah, I was in Berlin for four months and then Paris for two.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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You actually like unset and you're not interacting with anybody, any of the actors, right?

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They don't allow you to do that.

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Incidentally, interacted with a few of them.

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Like for instance, on, on, during the very beginning of the project, I didn't know who she

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was but Rina who plays a cure in the movie.

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She was just seeing X to me at video village and I was like, "I'll live here that

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too."

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So she's like, "Thanks.

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What are you doing in the movie?"

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She was like, "I'm just starting to talk."

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And she like, "God, I've got inside the scene."

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I was like, "Oh, God."

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And so she's great.

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What I would do is they would shoot nights all the time and so I'd work normal hours and then

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about 70 in the clock, I'd go to set with my iPad to show Chad when I'm working on it.

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You know, I would do that two, three times a week.

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And there was a few times where I was flying things being like, "Hey, I really think

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we need one more wide shot here.

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We need to go back and really shoot this."

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I happened to only twice but it was kind of important that I was there to fly it.

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And then it was good to get a sense of Chad and a sense of abilities and show them things.

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Because it's if you just send stuff online and email back, it's so much better to do

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in person.

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Yeah.

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Well, I'm sure you had to do a lot of that during COVID.

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Yeah.

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No, I've edited an entire movie over Zoom called Plan B.

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And I'm very proud of that movie and Natalie and I are very close.

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Because we have to just be on Zoom all day long to get there.

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The thing that I also appreciate about the John Wick films too is just the caliber of

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acting and just the caliber of actors that you have in there.

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I mean, you know, let's read it.

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Of course, RIP, but like in machine, I mean, just so many great people that populate these

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phones.

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It was a treasure trove.

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I feel so lucky to be able to edit actors in these caliber.

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And like you were saying earlier, in terms of the balance of these serious dialogues,

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scenes with mythology, to me, Chad created this weird combination of how anyone could

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predicted of like completely taking itself seriously deep mythology of a hitman culture and strange

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underworld.

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And he looks at this as a great myth, especially John Wick for we were very much doing this,

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especially with music.

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We have these like choir voices for the villain.

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It's like they're going to see Zeus.

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It sees big mythic abics.

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And then also we have people being thrown into cars and John jumping out of window and it's

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like line two tunes for adults.

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It's like this is how does this work?

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I don't know how this works.

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And it's only works because the actors are so good.

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They keep this show grounded.

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They take themselves seriously in the roles and in a weird way that allows us to have fun because

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it feels real.

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Was the premiere was that the first time you got to see it with an audience?

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No, we did two preview screens that were really fun and really well.

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That was last summer.

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So that was this is my third time seeing a audience.

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So what is that like when you get to actually sit down with an audience and watch your work unfolding

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in front of their eyes?

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Oh, at the first preview, people cheered at the end and I cried.

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They was like one of the most wonderful ones in my entire life.

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You were working on this thing in a bubble and at that point it had been a year.

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So it'd been, yeah, because it would be.

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It was like mayor June 2022 we previewed.

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So it was like a year later after first going and to have that release that people liked

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and were satisfied by any ending, your dome like adding, I, that's one of the best professional

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feelings I can possibly imagine.

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Well, it's going to be a feel great for you.

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I mean, you know, it's not like we said earlier, it's not like you started on small indie

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films.

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You were starting in the big leagues, but here you are.

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This I would say this is probably a major milestone for your career to have added this,

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you know, this movie is going to be huge when it comes out.

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The other three have been fantastic and I can't wait for this one to come out.

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Thank you.

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I agree.

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I'm, I'm very excited.

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It feels, it feels great and it feels, and I'm incredibly grateful for the opportunity and for

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the team that I work with, I would drive you nothing without.

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So it's just surreal to say the least.

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Have you already have your next project lined up?

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Yeah, I fight a London tomorrow.

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Wow.

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Two, two, and next guest busters.

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Something that I really appreciate about these John Wick films too is just the different types

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of people that are in the movies.

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I totally agree.

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And that's another reason that something that I did sort of flagged that is something I'm open

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and wanting to talk about is that Chad does not care where a good idea comes from or a

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good actor.

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They came in, did audition.

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He didn't care.

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It was later on that people were like interviewing him, being like, it's so cool that you cast

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a trans actor.

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Well, and it's a non-binary actor.

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And he's like, okay, great.

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They did a great performance.

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I really enjoyed it.

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It was like simple.

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It is a good moment now that hopefully some balance has been achieved and diversity in both

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and in front and behind the camera.

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Chad didn't care.

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He didn't notice until like way later.

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And it just so happens that I'm gay.

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My person is gay in my second.

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It's a woman.

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And it's just sort of, I think an interesting thing to me, almost masculine movies.

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Like, I possibly imagined coming out was edited by this team.

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I just love that.

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And I wanted people to know that I can terms of what's possible and who can do what.

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There are no limits in terms of what kind of stories will kind of people can tell.

485
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,120
Nathan, thank you so much for your time.

486
00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:17,280
I hope that you have a fantastic time in London working on the next Ghostbusters.

487
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,520
And thank you for doing John Wick 4.

488
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,520
I can't wait to see it.

489
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,960
And I can't wait for you to, please feel free to do it.

490
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,080
And I'd love to hear your thoughts.

491
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,080
Yeah.

492
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,360
I'm my guest, ladies, so I come job with you.

493
00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,200
You don't want to flood with us, please.

494
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,840
Yes, quick, I do many shells.

495
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,040
Give this a limit, bell.

496
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,160
Get on your knees and I fell.

497
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,820
Double J with the place on fell.

498
00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:49,780
Double Tasa, we made to a veil, yeah.

499
00:24:49,780 --> 00:24:53,060
Boston tell this to you, my, my guest, ladies, so I come job with you.

500
00:24:53,060 --> 00:24:54,940
You don't want to flood with us, please.

501
00:24:54,940 --> 00:24:56,680
Yes, quick, I do many shells.

502
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,800
Give this a limit, bell.

503
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,160
Get on your knees and I fell.

504
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,640
Double J with the place on fell.

505
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,640
Double Tasa, we made to a veil, yeah.

506
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,040
Reload in my magazine.

507
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,400
And know my pissed-o-bank.

508
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,640
Hey, my money, pocket up, and then I'm out like her.

509
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,800
Go bang, I'm scratchin' shit up, my bucket list, where my god likes so much to give.

510
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,960
Don't kill what you're with, some shit is, I know that they can't fuck with us.

511
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,200
Yeah, no bounce, I made to be make a bounce, I'm making all these sounds.

512
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,760
They can see me when I'm making the rounds.

513
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,360
They can see me when I come for the crown.

514
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,760
I came through with the base, they can't do it with the heat.

515
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,320
People ain't Josh's rap, yeah, I make me like these, but yeah, I make his like that.

516
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,320
All day, everyday.

517
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,400
You're on the tutus scene with my guns blazing, like I'm job with.

518
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,640
You don't want to fuck with us, cause I got bus quit.

519
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,760
Bus in tutus scene with my guns blazing, like I'm job with.

520
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,760
You don't want to fuck with us, cause I got bus quit.

521
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,200
Bus in tutus scene with my guns blazing, like I'm job with.

522
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,760
You don't want to fuck with us, cause I got bus quit.

523
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,160
I got too many shells, kid to piss in my belt, get on your knees and I fail.

524
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,800
Double j-boz, a place on bail, double tazer, we made to a bail, yeah.

525
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,040
Bus in tutus scene with my guns blazing, like I'm job with.

526
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,640
You don't want to fuck with us, cause I got bus quit.

527
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,960
I got too many shells, kid to piss in my belt, get on your knees and I fail.

528
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,600
Double j-boz, a place on bail, double tazer, we made to a bail, yeah.

529
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,840
Fun charm with gunmore like windows, use my blades how they're poor, get on.

530
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,960
Talk shit, put some true thread in them, up to a bad luck, roof that hit them.

531
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,880
Stay back when I walk up to the place, you ain't me surpass your pace, can't keep up,

532
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,520
but it's ain't a race, I slay like crados, move on canos.

533
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,240
The men have been up like logic, I'm abolish, check knowledge, that I've been a hardest step of my list.

534
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,520
Stop piling and the rick and the ball, we know a complex, I've accomplished almost everything that I've got on the list.

535
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,080
Got some bullets coming, I'm missing them back, I never miss.

536
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,320
Bus and two to see what my guns blazing like, I'm John with.

537
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,520
You don't want to fuck away this, cause I guys bus quit.

538
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,760
Bus and two to see what my guns blazing like, I'm John with.

539
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,840
You don't want to fuck away this, cause I guns bus quit.

540
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,200
Bus and two to see what my guns blazing like, I'm John with.

541
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:54,120
You don't want to fuck away this, cause I'm just quick, got too many shells, kid to piss in my belt, get on your knees and I fail.

542
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:57,760
Double j-boz, a place on bail, double tazer, we made to a bail, yeah.

543
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,960
Bus and two to see what my guns blazing like, I'm John with.

544
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,560
You don't want to fuck away this, cause I guys bus quit.

545
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:14,320
Bus and two to see what my guns blazing like, I'm John with.

546
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,200
You don't want to fuck away this, cause I guns bus quit.

547
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,080
Bus and two to see what my guns blazing like, I'm John with.

548
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,080
You don't want to fuck away this, cause I guns bus quit.

549
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,080
Bus and two to see what my guns blazing like, I'm John with.

