♪ Made a decision on me ♪
♪ I'll face the sunny sun ♪
♪ What on our head of vision ♪
♪ What is life be like? ♪
- What's up, everybody?
- Did I do it on top?
Did I do it right when you point it, Stephanie?
- I think so.
(laughing)
If not, they'll be like just a second missing.
- Yeah.
- You know what?
Listen, am I a professional sound engineer?
- No.
- You are now.
(laughing)
- Kaelin's gonna be listening to this
making fun of us.
- He's like rolling his eyes.
- Rashes.
- Should've hired somebody else.
No, we're fine.
- Yeah.
- Women can do anything they set their minds to.
- That's right.
- Except for anything technical or like--
- Except for cleaning pond.
(laughing)
- What's up?
So, Natalia's been back.
It was the kids's birthdays
on over the weekend on Saturday.
- Oh my God!
- They turned 19.
- Yeah.
Holy shit.
- It's going so fast.
- I have 19 year olds.
- Lynette, I have 17 going on 18 year olds
that were two when we started the show.
- I think so.
- That were babies that I was crying, right?
- On air going, it's so hard.
(laughing)
And now I'm crying 'cause like it's so short.
- I know.
I know it flies by.
- Yeah, were you a little like mixed feelings about 19?
- No.
(laughing)
Natalia was like, she's like, yeah, boring 19.
And I go, why are you saying boring?
She goes, well, it's not 21.
And then she said, I just wanna be a freshman forever.
I don't wanna grow, I just wanna stay a freshman.
I was like, okay, well you know you have a couple more years left.
- She's got three more years of college.
- I know.
- I should feel sorry for Elby who had no first year of college.
She was never a freshman.
And now she's already a junior and now she's a senior.
- It's almost over.
A bunch of her friends or people she knows are going abroad.
I'm sure a lot of our listeners have kids
that are studying abroad.
And it was funny because I asked her,
I was like, did you think about studying abroad?
And she goes, well, first of all,
it's way too late to even apply for that.
She goes, but second of all,
like I don't wanna miss,
like I only have one more year at UCLA.
I kinda wanna be here for it.
- Right.
- And I was like, I get that.
And she goes, oh, I can travel.
- Yes.
- Yeah, yeah.
And now Natalia feels the same way.
She doesn't wanna go anywhere.
And she's got some friends, both kids have friends
that are going traveling abroad, studying abroad.
But yeah, so,
he's son, he hasn't, isn't home yet.
He's coming home tonight.
- Oh, tonight?
- Yeah.
He's got his last final today.
And Natalia had her birthday this weekend.
She had a bunch of girls over Saturday,
went out to dinner Saturday night.
And--
- Did you go to or did you just finance it?
- I just financed it.
(laughs)
Here's the card.
- You have fun.
- Right, right?
- Yes.
- They don't want old mom.
- No.
- Or anymore?
- No, no.
But they all, yeah, they,
so they all went out to dinner.
And then I just, you know, it's been like quiet.
I get used to the quietness.
And now with her being home,
it's just whirlwind every day.
And then I forget how shitty their music is.
Like, I'm literally sitting in my bedroom.
I'm listening to her music in her room.
And I'm going,
I feel like my dad,
my dad, because I used to love to ran, to ran my dad, to go.
He go,
and hungry like the wolf, when you hear at the end,
we're like, you know, lost in them found,
and you hear the lady moaning.
And my dad would be like,
oh, somebody put her out of her misery.
It's because she can't stand this music.
Put her out of her misery.
And I'd be like, oh, dad.
And he's like, this is music to you.
This is music.
And I'm like, oh, God.
Now I'm like, I'm the one thinking,
this is music to them.
Like, use, like this, spin me,
you know, it's like that club.
Right, it's right, right.
You know, it's like, all it is is just spun up me like tracks.
That's LB lives for that.
I know, it's like, I don't get it.
It's not music.
Keep behind the curtain.
I'm trying to get Lynette to have a friend of hers possibly help me get LB,
an internship.
John, you didn't know this maybe.
No, John knew this.
But I've been asking you to send LB's information.
She submitted for an internship.
It doesn't really matter, but at a place called Insomniac, which is basically that's all they
do is these kind of these club music, the raves, as they do.
They, they, I think manage a lot of these artists that do that.
DJs and these, yeah, the she lives that, that's like her life.
I got it.
Okay.
Making playlists and like, and all the music.
And that's one of the things that we laugh about because she'll try to turn me on to certain
stuff in the car.
She'll be like, well, hold on.
Here's one that I do think you'll like.
And I'm like, nope.
Yes.
I don't, I mean, I just feel like, you know, grandma, Corolla, but like, I don't, it's not music.
And then she's got to blast it anyway.
So funny thing is just last night, John and I were trying to talk in our bedroom and
there was loud death metal music.
And I was like, okay, I can handle a lot of things.
Yeah.
Not that.
No.
And I literally marched into our, into Sadie's bathroom and I was like, I can't, I was coming,
I was coming.
No, she was.
No, she was listening to it on her phone while she was like putting her makeup on.
And I was like, absolutely, I can't, I can't.
I can handle a lot of your music.
Yeah.
A lot of stuff.
Yeah.
Not that.
What band was it?
I don't know it was, but it was very like Metallica like.
Yeah.
Do you know what she was listening to, John?
I think it was a very, very aggressive, old Metallica track.
Okay.
Aggressive old Metallica.
No, not for me.
No.
Not for me either.
No.
I just don't, I don't know.
I don't get it.
But then like, she'll listen to like, then I listen sometimes.
She's listening like Bruce Springsteen or Abba or I don't know, you know, just like Paul
Simon.
Great.
That's great.
Can we just stay on that?
But no one, her friends come over.
That's when trouble starts.
That's when her fucking headache starts.
It's just like, oh, I got to listen to this.
Like what time you guys go in a dinner?
But yeah, that was my Saturday night.
It's so funny though, because I, as everybody knows, I love being the cool mom that's
like, everybody should come to our house.
I don't know when, when it happened.
I don't know when I crossed over to the dark side.
But suddenly I'm like, oh, God, it's so loud in our house.
Like all the kids, Sadie and Zander had friends over last night and they were playing.
They're like, we're just going to be playing a, what, let's dance.
Uh-huh.
Let's dance in the living room.
And I was like, oh, my God, I can't, I can't think.
Right?
I can't, I can't relax.
Yes.
When is this going to be over?
Yeah.
I came in late, like, I want to say after 11 and they were like, is it okay if we go to our
friends house to go swimming even though it's really late?
And I was like, yes, bye.
I know, I know.
Yes, Saturday, it was like that.
I was trying to watch my, my 2020 in my bedroom and all I just hear is like loud music from
the living room.
I'm like, is that how long is this going to go on?
I can't live like this.
I put a pillow over my head so I don't have to hear it dumb, dumb, dumb, you know, if I'm
going to sleep because then they come back and they keep the party going and they got,
they get, they get, they kept going until like two o'clock in the morning.
Right.
He's girls.
So we have a little Patreon about, yeah, a little Patreon.
Yeah.
So what did you do for Sonny's birthday?
Did you just send him money?
Nothing.
Uh, no, I sent him to Korea.
That was his birthday.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh, he had friends over on Saturday night because it was, he came home.
Oh, he had friends over in his place for the UFC fight.
So he had friends, I asked him if he wanted me to like send over a charmouterie board or
like some cheesecake or something and he's like, no, we're all right.
Sonny's is so easy.
He doesn't ask for anything.
He's like, no, we're fine.
If I need anything, I'll, I'll, I'll door to ask it.
So he had guys over to watch the UFC fight, but he comes home today.
So I'll be home for the summer and then he'll have to start looking for a job when he gets
home.
Um, yeah.
And that, that was about it.
Like that was the kids is 19 just didn't seem very kind of unaventful.
I don't know.
Yeah, I'm trying to remember what we even did for Elbe's.
I remember when you were like Elbe's 19, I was like, that seems like so old to me.
Like I was like, oh, I can't believe she's 19.
I know.
And now she's 20.
That's insane.
It's so interesting.
Our kids like because you're a, you were always ahead of me with your twins.
My twins.
It's a year and a half on either side.
Right now.
So my twins are a year and a half younger than your twins and Elbe is a year and a half
older.
Right.
Isn't that funny?
Yeah.
So you were always giving me hope about like life with twins is going to get easier.
And then I would be like, yeah, but my kid, I was like, I'm going to be like, I'm
always going through certain things right before you.
Yes.
Yeah.
Learning from you.
Yeah.
Like the, I remember when it came time for a driver's license for them to get a driver's
license for them to start looking at colleges.
Yeah.
And then an application, an application.
Yeah.
So yeah, you were the first.
I remember back.
So Elbe's 20.
So this was when she was 15.
And I remember when she was doing the studying for the permit test and how ridiculous the
questions were.
We were making fun of that because it was like, what do you do?
If you see a, if another driver like cuts you off, do you, um, flip them off?
Do you mad dog them?
Do you try to get them to pull over?
Or you take the shit out of them?
Right.
And it was like, or do you calm down and just keep your mind your own business and keep
going?
It's like, what do I pick?
Yes, right, right, right.
But then there'd be other questions that were like, uh, how many feet in front of you,
when you're on a dark road, do you need to turn off your high beams?
And it's like, four hundred and forty nine feet, five hundred feet, five hundred.
I just had to do this for my driver's license.
Oh, yeah.
I do the online test thing.
And some of it was like, no, done.
And some of it was like, Oh, I don't know.
I don't drive in the snow.
Right.
It was all kinds of quite, yeah.
How many inches from the curb can you be?
Right.
Some of them are like, you really have to think in your head.
Like, okay, if you're parked on a hill and you're facing downward, do you turn your tires
in or to the left or to the right?
And then you have to think like, okay, if I'm, if I was to go forward, I'd want the wheels
turned to the right.
So that it would stop me at the curb.
But then your brain goes, okay, if you're going backward, yeah, what do you do?
You have to turn, you know what I mean?
And you're hurt your brain.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And like, here's my solution.
Stanisthenne Francisco.
Yeah.
I know.
Or Echo Park.
All right.
You don't have to worry about that.
Oh my God.
Echo Park is a worst.
Oh, it's one.
Every time I have to go into the city, there's one street when you're just going,
I said, you're going up the hill and you can't see in front of you.
And you just have to keep driving until you get to that peak up at the top.
And then you go down like it's, it was, it's this big hill and it's like, it's crazy.
It's like a roller coaster.
Yeah.
It is really scary.
And you know, I have my driving anxiety.
So I just, there's something in my brain that's like, well, what are the brakes?
Like what if it just starts rolling backward?
Am I going to stop that?
Right.
Well, I think part of it is triggered by muscle memory.
I mean, I learned to drive on a standard on a stick shift.
You knew that I had a stick shift too.
Yeah.
Well, those are scary because I hated it because you have to, if you're in gear, when you
go to switch gears, as you're switching gears, you, you're basically in neutral for like
a split second.
Yeah.
You're always rolling around when you have a stick shift.
I don't even think I knew how to drive a stick shift correctly because I was, I would always
like, I would always smell some smoke and it was also when I just learned how to drive.
So I'm learning how to drive and learning on a stick.
But so I would always like grind the gears and stuff.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Still, it was never, I would never switch over smoothly.
I just remember.
Yeah.
Well, we only had stick shift cars for years.
So I learned how to drive on it.
Same thing, smoked it up.
Yeah.
Got yelled out a lot.
You're going to ruin the car, you know?
And then eventually that's how I knew how to drive.
Right.
And then I was like, look at these people, look at these losers with their automatic transmission.
I know.
Yeah.
It's not driving.
Yeah.
To me, that was almost a self driving car at that point.
Yeah.
Do you remember when I, when I took that defensive school of driving that when I went
to Arizona with my friend, Jody, and we took, it was the bonder on school of driving.
And it was learning how to defend, you know, driving, defancy driving.
It was like driving like, it was really fun.
It was like a gift that was given to me.
And it was like two days and I brought Jody and we just, you get into these trans, trans
am's cars and they take you out on the track and they teach you like how to drive in
the rain and what to do if you skid out and they want you to like, okay, now go zero to 60
as fast.
You hit the gas and then they give you like on a wet track.
Then you start to skid out and you have to like control it.
And I was like, my, my chest is hurting right now.
Listen to that.
It was so much fun.
It was so much.
Didn't you do a bit?
So for parental discretion, I went to Irvine, not Irvine.
What do you call it?
Irwindale.
Yeah.
They have little springs.
Was it willows spring?
I don't know.
It's just a circular track where they do the formula one, whatever.
It was the worst day of my life.
Yeah.
It came out to be a really funny bit, but the truth was I cried.
Remember I, well, first of all, you have, it's very claustrophobic and they put you in
the helmet and you're in the albegueer and then you have to get into the window of the
car and it's very, very cramped.
And then you're supposed to drive fast.
And I'm like, I don't like to drive fast on the regular freeway.
Right.
That alone a freaking track that's going around it that I think I'm going to hit the wall.
Right.
I mean, John knows my, my sweet spot is 57 miles per hour on the freeway.
Just regular driving.
Oh my God.
Even if the rest of the traffic is going faster, I like, I feel comfortable.
It was horrible.
And I had to do it and all everybody was going fast and I could not get it to go.
They want you to go at least 60.
And I, so they made fun of me because they were, when they edited the bit, they kept, they
showed my spedometer, even though it wasn't real, but they kept showing me like when I would
speed up, I'd speed up to like 23 miles per hour.
Yeah.
And then I just made them stop and then I was crying like when I came out of the car, I couldn't
get out of the car.
My, I thought I, I think I might have had a little panic attack.
Yeah.
I think I remembered what I think I saw that bit and you had a like a white helmet on
the, yeah.
And you were going really slow.
Yeah.
They showed, they basically showed me a real moment of my face where I just look white and
I'm like, panting and scared.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
That was my finer moment.
Should have been fun.
Yeah.
Should have remembered that at the beginning of it, the bit was that I was being really cocky.
Yeah.
I was doing like, man on the street stuff and I was like, yeah, I'm kind of a pretty good
driver.
I can get in and out of the trader Joe's parking lot in under 45.
I have like all these jokes about, right?
And then I was asking questions.
They had funny questions for me.
So they do a little school first.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
They give you the instruction, all the safety instructions and they talk to you about how
to drive the race car.
And then I just kept asking, they had to keep raising my hand kind of like impractical
jokers bingo.
Yes, yes, because the rest of the people didn't know.
I think there was just one camera and they pretended it and I just kept going,
I was like, question.
And maybe like, yeah, the instructor wasn't really in on it.
And then I feel like that's so, do you have to wear like the lap bar like do you have to
wear your seatbelt and then the guy was like, yeah.
Okay.
I want to see that.
I'll show it to you.
That's hilarious.
I'll show you the clip of it.
Yeah.
You should post it.
I got it.
Yeah, I have to find that particular the whole bit, but it was, it's really funny.
Yeah.
It could see you doing man in the streets, though.
I did a ton of it for the show.
I remember.
I got into a fight with my executive producer at the time because they would send me out
to do man on the street and I had writers.
So the writers would write me like some jokes, but you also have to be thinking on your
feet.
Like you have to have a conversation with somebody, right?
Just hammer questions at them that have been written by writers.
Right.
You have to have a conversation.
If you do that, they'd send you out for like eight hours.
One time, oh my God, this is just going to be funny to say this with John here.
Kind of early on season one, I had to go to a movie theater and talk to couples about relationships.
Well, Sadie and Zander were like, I want to say really young.
Maybe they were three.
And then John was apparently trying to call me because he was home with the kids and
Zander had taken a metal, the stick of a metal, like hockey stick.
Don't ask me why we had that.
It's but he was had it in his mouth and he was running around and he stuck the back of his
throat with it.
He was bleeding.
Yeah.
And then John was of course really upset and trying to get a hold of me, but I was not answering
my phone because I was on freaking camera on a TV show.
My phone was in my purse like far away from me.
So a while ago, so then John just started calling people on the set and asking them to go get
me.
And then they went and got me and then I was talking to him on the phone and he was like,
what do I do?
Do I bring him into the ER?
And then he was really mad that I hadn't answered the phone.
And I was like, I'm on a TV show.
I'm making a TV show.
And he was like, I don't care.
Our child is bleeding like, what do I do?
And then I think I told him to have a zander gargle with like some salt water and see if
the cause mouth healed really quickly.
And they're not going to give you stitches in the back of your throat.
Right.
So anyway, he was fine.
Spoiler alert.
He was okay.
[LAUGH]
John's glaring at me like he remembers this differently, but guess what?
He's not on a mic.
[LAUGH]
Sorry.
Yeah, but that was like adventures from,
so anyway, all I was going to say was that, and then we'll take a break.
But I got into an argument with my executive producer because I would go out and do these
man on the street things for like eight hours and they would schedule me sometimes like
two or three in a row.
And I was like, I can't, no.
Right.
I could go do a bit where it's just kind of a funny bit where it's not standing at a mall
in a toy store, interviewing people all day, but you don't have no idea how exhausting
that is.
Imagine.
Yeah.
Yeah, imagine.
Woo.
I just saw a headline that says Judge dismisses $400 million defamation lawsuit against, from Justin
Baldoni, his lawsuit towards Blake and husband.
Wow.
The judge dismissed it.
It says Judge dismisses Justin Baldoni's $400 million defamation lawsuit against Blake
and Ryan.
Oh, I see that.
So I guess we'll have to find out.
Yeah.
Well, that's weird.
I've got to tell you, and this is going to irritate a lot of our listeners.
But and we don't have to get into a whole discussion about it, but I have watched and listened
to so much Karen Reed.
And I cannot for the life of me understand anybody that doesn't like they are going to find
her guilty.
Now, they may, they may find reasonable doubt or they may just find her guilty of manslaughter.
I am not saying that she deliberately did it, but they have had expert after expert saying
that yes, Alexis matching hers hit somebody at had in collision at this time, going backwards
this many miles from her.
Did you watch the Arca expert?
Yes.
Dr. Wolf.
Yes.
They're expert.
Karen Reed's expert.
Yes.
I did.
We finally used a dummy.
Yes.
Real dummy instead of the blue man group arm.
And when they were asking Karen Reed when she was outside like, you know, so did you, did
you go and reverse?
Well, the data will, the data will show it.
Well, yeah, and the data did show it.
Yeah.
She was like, I'd really like to see them show with the dummy.
Yeah.
Yes.
And I do all the experts.
Yeah.
Here's one of the things somebody brought up, which I found interesting.
So let's say you're like, because most people on the internet are working on the theory that
she's innocent.
A lot of them.
And I feel like less and less, less and less.
Well, there's, so this one is YouTuber.
I don't know who was.
I mean, is it the turtle guy?
The crazy person?
No.
It's like the daily dose, Donna.
Okay.
She used to be a casting director.
I guess she lives in, yes, she's big on the housewives.
Is she big on, yeah.
So she was saying she thinks she's innocent.
She's saying if you're working on the theory that there was no collision with the car.
And she's, she was saying, okay, lucky, the plow driver, the, the plow, snow plow driver,
he grew up with the, the Albert and also worked in their pizza, worked, they own a pizza place
and he delivered pizza.
So he's a snow plow driver.
He also delivered pizza for the Albert.
Right.
And the Albert are, are cops are the cops, but also pizza and they have, right, right, right.
And they let, they live at the house, 34, a fair of you, or he was found, or his body was
found.
But she was saying that it kind of makes sense.
If you're, if you don't believe that she's guilty and that, that, if you don't believe that
of, right, if you don't believe that, if she got, if you got beat up, there's a lot, I
think there's a lot of reasonable doubt though, I think in this trial.
So let's just say they beat them up in the house.
They did not, they did not expect Karen Reed to show up.
They were not going to pin it on Karen Reed because I think that if care, what if Karen,
what if Karen did not call Jen McCabe that next morning?
What if she slept in, she woke up at nine and the cops came to her house and said he's dead,
and she never left the house to back into the car to get a crack tail light.
And she, what if she never called Jen McCabe?
So what would have happened?
Let's say they beat him up inside the house.
What was their plan?
Just to put them out, they were kind of, believe that he ever went in the house, but Karen
herself said at first that he didn't go in the house.
And she says she thinks she hit him.
Right, right, right.
But barred, the car shows that she hit him.
What, yeah, what were they are, what were they going to do?
Because they couldn't have predicted that she was going to go nuts, so and go look for
him at five o'clock in the morning.
Right.
So were they just going to leave him?
So, there's people that they were like, it makes sense that they would have tried
to frame lucky snow plough driver because they knew, because he would drove by and he
did not see a body at two o'clock, two, thirty three o'clock in the morning.
There was nobody there.
But then he came back around and there was a car parked out there, which was Brian Higgins
car that I guess was the one that was parked out there or some niece, I would car it was,
that was parked out front that they would have pinned it on this guy who doesn't have
the means to.
So then that was just lucky.
Like what if lucky, the snow plough driver wasn't coming by because then, then what, then
they were just going to be on their way out of their way.
They're playing right.
So they were going to beat him up, drag him outside, just put him out on their yard and
just go like, yeah, blaming unlucky.
Well, I don't know what they would have.
I don't know what they would have.
The dog and I use the term expert in air quotes.
Did you listen to her testimony?
At parts of it.
Oh my God.
And they're like, so do you have any like, what's the expertise?
What's your, you call it methodology?
And she's like, well, basically it's just my own like, you know, just common sense.
Is that, yes, she had no, there's no scientific theory.
And then the, the prosecutor who I love was just like, okay.
So, but you first said that it could be clause or teeth.
Like you're an expert.
Aren't clause which they are, kind of horseshoe shaped?
Oh yeah, I saw it.
She was like, well, they can be where they can be like, conical, conical, you know, like teeth.
And then they were like, okay, but didn't you first say it was the cane?
Didn't you say it could be either, which she did in her testimony.
And then you changed it based on nothing.
You didn't like look at any more photographs or anything and decide it was key.
That only was it for sure teeth, but it was K-90th.
And she was like, she just kept going like, I don't know, can you read me the transcripts?
Do you remember that?
He asked her about testimony that she'd made like that morning.
Uh-huh.
He was like, you don't, you need to see the transcript for what you just said.
And she was like, I just forgot.
Remember, and he goes, is do you have a, like, you have a damn memory?
And she was like, oh, it was one of my things.
She approached them though.
Yes, she did come to that.
She said she was a dog by expert, which she is not.
Yes.
But don't you think, okay, there's a lot, I think there's a lot of reasonable doubt because
first of all, and I don't know if they're, if they're proving this in this trial, this
time around, but this guy Higgins is, he liked her.
He liked the attention he was getting.
Then she ghosted him.
And he sees them together at the bar and he's literally texting her while he's at the bar,
like so question mark, question mark.
And she doesn't answer.
Then he's getting drunker and drunker.
Then if you look at that footage, he's like going like this to John O'Keefe, like, come
on.
Hey, let's go.
We're leaving.
Let's go.
Like, you know, and then the other guy was like, hey, like grabbed his arm and like, tried
to talk to him, like, kind of like, dude, maintain, you know, kind of like,
like, relax, dude, you know, it looks like he, and then what's he do?
No evidence of any of that.
So all of that could have happened.
But then, but then what's he doing going to the police station at 2 30, or 2 30 in the
morning?
He said he went there to move cars.
But then you see him on camera.
He didn't move any cars.
And he's in his office.
What's he doing at 2 30?
And then there's just a lot of like, huh?
So a lot of things that just doesn't make sense.
I don't know, like, if she backed in, she probably backed in, no one didn't know it or whatever.
I don't think it was intentional.
I don't think it was intentional either.
No.
But I do think she got really mad because I think she has absolutely as borderline personality
loses her shit at him all the time.
He was trying to break up with her.
That's a fact.
He was, the relationship was ending.
She did not want it to be ending.
She was a freaking cling on.
I read those text messages and they were fighting that day and they'd been fighting because
she was, and then, Rayzie, what do you call it?
Like over, not over, possessive.
She was very possessive.
She was screaming at any other women that he was even, even the friend of his sister.
Yeah, I saw that.
Screaming.
I mean, yeah, she was a mess and she said, I hit him.
I hit him.
She told her dad that.
I think I hit him.
Right.
But.
And then she drove away.
She probably didn't think that she, that he died.
She probably just thought like, fuck this guy.
She got so mad when he got out of the car.
This is how I think it went down.
He got out of the car.
He was like, fuck you.
Mm-hmm.
Fucking bitch or whatever.
We're done.
He gets out of the car.
She's like, oh, fuck no, you don't.
And then she, like, backs up, which is a fact that's been proven by eating.
Even the defense experts have said that yes, that the car hit something, the car backed
up very quickly.
I know, 25 miles per hour.
I don't know.
There was an expert that said that, but then there was another, I don't know if it was
expert said if it was determined.
And then they keep bringing up these theories like the dog bite expert and then when they
said, but how come there wasn't any dog DNA?
The defense went crazy and wanted a mistrial because it wasn't their witness.
Yeah.
We're not going to solve it today, probably by tomorrow though.
Well, I think by Friday, there might be, oh, the jury's going to go out.
I think they're saying it should be wrapping up this week.
There's a lot of good trials going on.
I know.
We're just sitting here like doing a show when like big things are happening.
We should just be home.
I mean, what's going on with the Menendez brothers are they out?
No, they got postponed because of something, but it's they have another court day coming
up.
And then I, I, I like took a little deep dive on the diddy stuff.
Yeah.
And I was listening to this one girl who is in the courtroom a lot of the days.
So I mean, she's more reporting on kind of the funny things like she was saying that the
jurors like did it like there's a couple guys on the juror that you can see.
You can tell or like they like him or like they're driving with him to the point where the judge
had to say, hey, he did he, if you keep, you know, I fucking these jurors.
Right.
Because he kept, he's nodding at that.
Yeah, looking at them and nodding, you know, he was like, you'll be taken out of the courtroom.
So she's like, yeah, there's a few jurors that look like they're like really like into
him.
Like they like it, you know, and you know, it's and then she's saying that it's, it's,
it's hard because a lot of it is, you know, consent and a lot of these people were, you know,
willing participants.
And she's like, I don't know if the jury really like can is getting to them, you know, they,
is she saying that they are, they might be believing the defense where they say the defense
is like, you know, they can just leave, you know, and then the person interviewing her was
like, well, what about, you know, you know, Stockholm syndrome and, you know, spousal subute,
you know, abuse, you know, abuse of victims that don't want to leave and stuff.
And she, she's saying, I don't think this jury is sophisticated enough for understanding
that.
That's what she said.
Yeah.
That is the sad thing.
We know.
I was reading some long article about it about, I mean, it was so gross about his, the
Jane, Jane that they're calling her, Jane Doe basically, and how, you know, they were
like dating, he'd been dating her friend and then she liked him too.
And then she started dating him.
And then he was paying her money and then getting having her have sex with male escorts,
that whole thing.
Right.
But, and although, of course, he's guilty, this is horrible, but it is hard when you're
reading it and you're like, she's like, well, yeah, and then he would give me gifts of like
$10,000.
After like those weekends, right.
And then paying for her rent.
Right.
And then he, she moved and he, he was paying like $10,000 and then basically for her to move
to and paying for her rent.
And then she was like, well, I don't want to do this anymore.
And he's like, well, then I won't pay your rent.
So she was like, okay, never mind.
You're right.
Which that's not great.
Yeah.
I know.
I mean, but.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, he's disgusting and he's a criminal.
Right.
But it is, and I could see how a jury might be like, well, yeah, I mean, if they get the specific
jury instructions that they have to also, you know, forget about this being a sexual abuser,
whatever, you know, that domestic violence like that's, that doesn't imply like, are
they going to be able to separate?
Is that, is that going to be hard for them to separate that out?
And yeah.
And then they have in the past, they have been able to prove that you don't have to like
have somebody literally tied up in your basement to be having them against their will kind
of right.
Right.
You want to hear something ever so slightly annoying?
Of course, I would, I'm laughing because I'm, I'm always taking a chance.
Yeah.
Right.
When we report on something that has to do with other parents or whatever, yeah, there's
always the chance that someone's going to listen to it and then go, I think you should know
that I was listening to Stephanie Taylor's podcast.
Uh-huh.
They talk and she was complaining.
Yeah.
So I'm not, as you know, I'm like the co-chair of the fundraising committee, which god
only knows why they even keep me in that post.
After I tried to get out of it, then they sucked me, they're like, no, no, no, you would think
at this point, it's been like almost a year.
They'd be like, you know what?
She was kind of right.
We should have let her go.
She told us she let us know that she's lazy.
We should have just been like, go with God and we'll just do it ourselves, but they didn't
right.
And they keep me in the loop on shit that's so stupid.
So they said, I got this email that I just have to laugh at.
Okay.
Let me take you back to to before I was even in this position, when this email came in from
this these companies that were like, we're going to give you some items for your silent
auction on, what do you call it like when you sell clothes in a store?
Oh, on consignment.
Basically, they were going to offer us this item.
I remember I read you the whole thing because I was laughing at myself because it was like
a hunting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Like this is, this retails for like $6,000, but you only have to pay your minimum bid
has to be $2,000.
Also, it doesn't include airfare hotel guns, person who with you, tips, like, right, massages,
like, so basically like you're starting from scratch and you're paying for everything.
Yeah.
And then I have the audacity to be like, I don't know if this is like, this is kind of a scam.
Like this is pretty much making money for the company.
Right.
Ain't nobody from our school from our little progressive school going on.
Go on a hunting trip.
Oh, and it wasn't even any hunting trip.
It was to kill dobs.
I remember that.
Yeah.
And then some people wrote in after I complained about that and they're like, well, dobs are,
you know, like a weed, the weed of the bird.
And I was like, no, they're not.
They're peace loving birds.
Yeah.
They're freaking simple of peace.
Yeah.
And everything we say any time no matter what it is is going to be controversial to somebody.
Yes, exactly.
Okay.
So somebody, so we got this email, I guess it's, and somebody wrote ceasing some of the
same Stephanie because I completely trust her BS meter.
What do you think?
So the email was from T-Mobile, okay?
And it said, uh, uh, hi.
Oh, hello.
And then it was to our, it's the parent group of the school.
It's like a booster club.
So the parent community has a board and everything has to go through us for like fundraising.
Okay.
But keep in mind that not really like, we're not, we're just parents.
We can't like make deals with companies.
Okay.
But they wrote, hello parent group.
I would like to set up an introductory discovery in person meeting to discuss a possible
incoming grant for your organization.
I'm currently working with many other nonprofits in your area.
I have the third week of April, open and available.
What day and time works best for you?
So hardcore sales, right?
And then it's from team account executive of business sales, T-Mobile.
Okay.
So of course I read that and I'm like, T-Mobile is not giving our school.
They're not just going like, you know what?
You guys just seem like a cool school, right?
Do you guys want like 10 grand or something to like help you like?
Right.
No strings attached.
You don't need to have T-Mobile or anything.
Okay.
So I write back.
I think that's a scam.
Now I'm not meaning like it's literally a scam like somebody's impersonating T-Mobile.
I mean, they're going to try to get us to do something.
Yes.
They're not handing out money.
Right.
And it's written so clearly as a sales call.
I would like to, hey, when can we have this face to face meeting to talk about how T-Mobile
can help you your organization?
Right.
So then, so some time goes by obviously, because that was like April, then I get another
email that goes to me and the co-chair of the Fundraising Committee.
And it just says, hi there.
Email is actually from T-Mobile.
Maybe worth an email back.
What do you think?
I was like, I mean, do, right.
It's one of those things where it's, why are you on the weekend like, like school's done?
Yes.
Right.
That's true.
I'm not coming in in the summer.
Right.
But the face to face meeting with T-Mobile so they can sell us.
So this was my email back and I said, I said, well, I mean, it is a sales email.
So if you want to sign the school up for T-Mobile or whatever and we have permission to engage
in buying with them, then we can talk to them.
But maybe, and then I say, maybe the principal should be, should, should tell us if we can
even use their services.
Or if he's interested in switching.
Right.
To T-Mobile.
And then she wrote back, oh, you think it's that?
Okay.
I didn't know.
Maybe you're right.
But it's like, okay.
Well, how, but how many channels does it have to go through?
When you see, this is from T-Mobile, the team, the business team of business sales.
Right.
It's a business sales.
It's not from their community outreach.
Right.
Yes.
Non-profits.
Right.
Out of the air and going, what, and also, if they were not, if they were just giving money to
non-profits, why would they need to have a face-to-face meeting with us?
Right.
Exactly.
I'd like to talk to you about opportunities for us to give you money for everything.
So I've never even heard of them, like, something like T-Mobile reaching out to sell, to sell
their service to like a, a, a, a public, is it in public school or just a school?
At the public school?
Yeah.
And that's a little strange.
Yeah.
But obviously, not worth a meeting with team, like, first of all, I still have to tell John not
to answer calls from like, numbers, he doesn't know.
Because he's like, but what if it's important, you know?
Yeah.
And this is how they get you.
Like, they, you get these fishing, right?
It's not fishing.
That's, that's, that's not the word for it.
Fishing is like a real scam where they're just trying to get your money.
But it's a business call.
They're just reaching out to tons of people and going, hey, let's try to sell you T-Mobile.
Yeah.
And if you get on the phone with them or you meet them in person, they're going to hard sell
you T-Mobile.
Right.
Yeah.
Yes.
It's like pretty, I just don't know why that's not kind of obvious.
Right.
Yeah.
And also it's summertime.
What?
Who's on the email Saturdays?
I know.
But what, here's, I guess what I'm kind of getting at is that I always, I'm, I'm, I'm,
always, I feel like a bitch all the time.
Right.
I feel like I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm alone and like, there's nobody else going like, it's T-Mobile.
Yeah.
It's from T-Mobile business sales.
I think they are thinking that but they don't bother answering me.
But then they forwarded to me.
I say like, no.
Right.
And then they, then they come back a month later to go, no, this is really from T-Mobile.
Right.
And wow.
Oh, okay.
You know what?
You're right.
That's actually T-Mobile.
T-Mobile business.
Yes.
Email.
We should for sure get back to them.
Yeah.
Wow.
I'm like, it's crazy.
Yeah.
So, um, oh, by the way, before I forget tomorrow morning is my episode with Alice and
Rosen on drunk.
Oh, yes.
That's right.
Yeah.
It was a good episode.
Is it good?
Was it fun?
It was really fun.
She is a very open.
Yeah.
She's an open book.
Yeah.
Yeah, I bet.
I feel like she was probably underutilized on Adam's show.
Yeah.
Because she's a bit like a Teresa in the, like Teresa has that same thing where she's like,
she'll just, she'll tell you anything.
Yes.
Right.
Like, once you get her on the air, like they know their job.
Yeah.
Like, she'll just go there.
She's just talking about like the dating a married man and, you know, her obsession, her
old obsession with men.
Like being a co-catect.
Wow.
Like trying to quit coke first before she even quit other.
I mean, she was like, oh, amazing.
I know.
I can't wait to listen.
Yeah.
You should listen to the whole episode.
Yes.
So it comes out tomorrow.
Tomorrow.
Yeah.
So today's Monday when we're, so the same day as this, as you're listening to this episode,
the new episode of drunk.
Okay.
Is out.
Okay.
Yeah.
I thought it was really good.
It's also available on YouTube.
Okay.
So if you go to YouTube and you look up drunk.
You can find, you can subscribe.
You know what?
It would really help me if you subscribed.
Yeah.
Not you personally.
Yeah.
If one would subscribe to drunkish the podcast.
Okay.
Just look up drunkish podcast and subscribe to me to do YouTube.
Subscribe like it.
Subscribe.
Yeah.
Cause we're posting.
John is cutting all of the video.
Cutting the shorts.
Like he's working really hard on it.
So like, what do you think?
John's become your little bitch.
I know.
That's nice.
It really is.
Well, it has been, has been wife team.
Cause he came in with me today.
Cause Kaylen is like, she's, he's out.
He's out.
He's like, don't call me.
Don't write.
I don't know you bitches.
But listen, like I said, when we made the decision, I was like, it's fine.
I totally got it.
And then I promptly kind of freaked out and was like, John, come help me.
But you know what?
I think I'm much closer today to being like completely fine on my own.
Right, John?
I think you doing well.
Yeah.
I'm just a discount, Kaylen.
I don't have the John said he's discount, Kaylen.
I am not worthy of Kaylen's mantle.
No, you know what?
Kaylen, if we can just take a moment to talk something nice about Kaylen, he was, he, he
taught himself a lot.
Like he had to figure out a lot of things.
There were times where he came in here where he was like, I don't know what the fuck I'm
doing.
Yeah.
You know, cause he didn't know any of this stuff when he first trained under producer Gary.
Right.
And Gary was like, blackout dealer.
Yeah.
Have fun.
Right.
And Kaylen was like, wait, what?
Yeah.
And remember all of the times that he had to make panic calls to Chris, Chris locks him
out.
Oh, that's right.
And our other place.
Yes.
Yeah.
And he'd be like, okay, I don't know why this microphone's not working and he'd be like,
Chris.
Yeah.
I don't know what's going on.
He's not going to walk him down.
Yeah.
And then he has, he's learned a lot.
We've watched him grow up.
I know.
We've been with him for 10 years.
More than that.
Yeah.
10 years.
Who has a job that long?
I know.
We've seen, we saw him meet Amy.
Yep.
We saw him get her knocked up.
We didn't see it.
Like the video, but we know about it might have happened at my house.
I know.
You remember that?
Because he was watching the house.
Yeah.
He had a baby sat Molly.
But then who leave like pizza boxes around and like her bra?
He did leave a pizza box.
And and it's before I knew that he had a girlfriend and I found a towel on top of my
dresser wrapped with a bra inside.
Oh my God.
See he wouldn't have let us talk about this on our show.
No, never.
Yeah.
You imagine though, like when I was younger and having to do things that were sneaky,
like you would be so flipped out.
Leigh, your boss's house, you would be combing that place over for anything you left behind.
Any tail tail signs that you use their bedroom that you.
Yeah.
Right.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Just like, yeah, we'll get it later.
You got to be like, you got it like actually, like as if you were never there.
Right.
You know, you want to guess, especially with Adam.
Oh, especially.
I know.
And so the fact that he left a pizza box, he left it like he left it like not even in the kitchen
in like the living room area, like on the on the coffee table.
Right.
Like as if he was sitting there watching TV and just left the box there.
Right.
Not even like putting it in the whatever.
Yes.
And then, yeah.
And then I find like this white bra and I was like, well, that's not my size.
I was like, who's bra is this?
Yeah.
And then I had to give him shit and he was like, Oh, shit, sorry.
Yeah.
And then he, yeah, he was busted.
Yeah.
But yeah, he was, he just a sweetheart, miss him.
I know.
We watched him grow up.
We really did.
Cause if he's in his early, he was in his early 20s.
Yes.
When he started with us, he was.
He was a baby.
And didn't he, didn't you tell me that he came in like with his resume?
He wanted to a job as an intern, right?
I think so.
I meant that was Dylan wanted a job.
Dylan reached out to me on LinkedIn.
Caitlin, did he come in?
I can't remember.
Maybe he did come in with his resume.
I feel like he did.
I feel like he was kind of a go getter in that way.
His dad was on the show and brawl Brian is a huge Michael Bean fan.
Oh, yeah.
And then Michael Bean said, Hey, my kid, you know, can you get him an internship or whatever?
And they were like, sure, they hired him.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Well, I say that to bring it back to the fact that LB with her wanting a job at insomniac,
saw it on LinkedIn.
But the offices are not that far from us.
So I told her, I was like, you know what?
You should kick it old school and walk your resume dress cute.
Walk your resume in there and just be like, Hey, like, I'm not a stalker, but yeah, I
kind of live close by.
And I would I applied for an internship.
And I just wanted to like personally drop off my resume and introduce myself.
I love that.
That's what we decided.
I used to do that.
I know, but she is really bad social anxiety.
So she was like, that is up my absolute worst nightmare.
Uninvited, right?
Because her whole thing when she was little was like, she wouldn't even wear a bathing suit
under her clothes to go swimming at someone's house on the off-off chance that they weren't
expecting us to want to swim.
You know, and she'd ask me 20 times, but did they say we're swimming?
Right.
At like four years old.
Yeah.
And I would go, yes, they invited us to go swimming.
Right.
And she would oftentimes just want to bring her bathing suit in a bag and have me take it
so that it didn't seem like, right, which is so crazy.
So that's her brain is still goes like, oh my god, what if they think I'm crazy?
That I'm not invited.
But she did say, I want the job so bad that I'll pretty much do anything.
So if I haven't heard anything, I'll try it.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
So my friend put in a good word for her and reached out to the person that he knows over
there.
And but after a parent company, which is live nation, which just may not be the
not, it's like the live nation is huge and they have a lot of companies.
But he knew that that company is it?
What's it called in Somniac?
In Somniac.
Yeah, yeah.
He was like, because at first he was like, I don't know if they want to hear from me, but
then I showed him what it was in Somniac and he goes, oh, he goes, I know somebody there.
Oh, yeah.
So he reached out to a brilliant.
Yeah.
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