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Welcome to the Pop Culture Junkie Podcast. I'm Olivia here with my fellow Junkies.

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Nicole and Shauna.

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So I am so excited to talk to you guys. It is truly my favorite season. We are in Halloween,

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spooky time. What are your plans for Halloween ladies? Just get drunk with you.

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Always a good plan. Yeah, let's see here. So on Friday night, I'm going to be Friddy

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Krueger, but like sexy.

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Freddy Krueger. I'm going to say does anybody think that Friday Krueger just as is sexy?

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I don't know. I'm sure some people's like fantasy. That's true. What's that rule that if it's

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on the internet, there's porn of it or like if it exists, there's porn of it. So somebody else

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is in the Friday Krueger, but I'm going to be sexy. Friday Krueger. And then night two me and a group

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of girls are going to do Rocky Horror Picture Show. And I'm going to be Rocky, but like gender bent.

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So probably just like a shiny gold bathing suit in a blonde wig and I don't know. No pants.

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I love that. But are you going to make a double appearance of the blonde wig that we've seen on

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your Instagram? I think it will be. I think it's going to be that blonde wig. But that one's really

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sweaty too. So I'm sure by the end of the night, I'll just be like fuck this.

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Burn that thing. Yeah. Where it gets like a smell to it. Oh, I got to be sure it smells right now.

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Also last time I wore it, I had COVID and I didn't know it. So it's probably just like full of just

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sweat and disease. Delicious, delicious. Maybe watch a TikTok or two of like washing your wig.

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I saw the fuck out of that food. Yeah. And then just on Hockshaw Halloween, probably just go

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trick-or-treating with my sister, Lawn nephew. Do you actually fun family stuff? What about you guys?

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It's always great when you actually have like a little kid and you're either like your family or

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your friend group because it's so much more fun when there's a baby. Right. Like watching his

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joy trick-or-treating last year was so amazing. And then we walked around the neighborhood and people

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went all out in this neighborhood in Arizona. Like we got to walk through these little haunted houses.

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Like people turned their whole garage into like a haunted like middle medieval. I don't know. It was just

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sick. Was it in Scottsdale? It was in Gilbert. But it was just some, I'm sure Scottsdale has amazing ones too.

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And then one house the lady was handing out like little liquor bottles for the adults. And this

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was Christmas from laws very pregnant now. But last year we definitely got a little lip.

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It was walking your son around. We had like our wine and our Halloween tumblers. It's like I feel

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like such like a wine ant. And my god, you want to hold my hand and we'll go ask this how for candy

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to be hard. So like sitting my shard in a classy. I love that time. Look what are you going to be?

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That's so classy. You know I don't know yet. Should we workshop it together?

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Well. The thing is, last time I recorded, I was single. Oh! Oh!

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Oh! Okay, this nurse. T-time! Tee! That sea is getting filled. I am so sorry dear listeners. That's right.

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Nicole is off the market. No more feet picks on the Patreon. Okay. I mean we can still do it. He's

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so for it, honestly. He's so feminist. Yeah. Whatever brings in the cash, you know.

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It's like, yeah, I like this guy. Our dual income household. So we're trying to think of like,

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we're some little honeymoon phase. So we're trying to think of a couple's things. So we had like a

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few ideas. So cute. Because he doesn't live in Arizona. So I'm going to come out to him.

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He lives in Colorado. So I'm going to come out here to Colorado. So you need like something warm

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ish? Yeah. Is it going to be called? Yes. Yes. I love that. So we're trying to think of something.

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We've had a few ideas. We had like curious George. So he was going to be like the person in,

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I don't watch curious George. I have no idea. But he was going to be the man in the yellow ad. I don't

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know if he has a name. Yeah. And then I was going to be the monkey or we were going to do Woody and

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Jesse from Toy Story. Oh, that piece. Or Lola and Bugs money. Is that it? Oh, that's a good one.

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Whatever that was. I think that you should be fancy. And he should be a red solo cut.

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Oh, that's a good one. That's funny. What are his interests? What is he, what does he like?

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I'm like interviewing you. Listen, they're in the punny moon phase. He likes me. He likes me and might be.

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I mean, I'm currently recording in his room right now. Oh, shit. What are you? He likes football. Okay.

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I like the city chiefs. Oh, go try to go suggest. Yeah. This is lives at chiefs fans now for some reason.

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Could be Travis and Taylor. Yeah, I think that would be so. That'd be so cute. That would be so. No, you should know. No, I'm not.

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Sorry, people. I'm not a Taylor stan. One day we will win. We will win the swifty fight one day.

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She got me to the dark side. She brought me over.

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But I don't know. Yeah, we're still in the works of what we're trying to do. I know it's getting late,

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but there can be barbeque. You could be barbeque. I know that was an option to. But I feel like, yeah, exactly. Everyone's going to be barbe. Yeah. You should be

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Mitch and Alan. It's the permanent one. I'm just the pregnant one. Alan's Michael Sarah is just like, I'm

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just Alan. I don't know. Oh, yes. They're in a lavender marriage. Oh, I got it. But then if you're

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Mitch, you have to be like nine months pregnant. And if you guys go and have alcoholic beverages, the bartender

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scheme, like, ma'am, I don't want to like tell you what to do with your body, but maybe don't. Yeah.

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Well, you know, like a glass of wine is okay when you're pregnant. I've heard that towards the end,

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you can have like one. No, no, you can. A glass of wine is okay. Like you're in there, not like

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aggressively, but like one here and there's not bad. I feel like I like every five years,

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when I check in on like the rules for mothers, the goal force keeps moving. I don't know. Yeah.

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In the 70s, it's like, one cigarette a day won't kill you. Yeah, literally. You can take a shot

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of barbeque and it's good for that lungs. It's good for that. You can't have deli meat, but you can

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have a glass of wine. Yeah. Right. What is this prison? I love that. All right. What do you take for

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Halloween? I am going to be in a joint costume with you Friday night. So we're being iconic,

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like serial killers. So the plan is, yeah, but sletti, you know, a modern take. So I'm right now

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planning to be ghost face. And you know, that might come into to conversation later. The only thing

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that I didn't really think through is wearing a mask for the entire night. And while mask

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figures can be quite sletti and quite, quite hot, I don't know if I'm literally

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embodied them, the hot mask figure. So we might workshop it. There's two problems with you wearing

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a mask all night. One, oh three, there's three problems. One, you're too pretty to hide that face all

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night. Thank you. That's your money maker. We can't hide that. Two, it's, we live in Phoenix,

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Arizona and you will literally be too hot. And three, if we go out on Halloween and you're wearing

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a mask, you will not be able to make out with anybody if the feeling or situation was too arise.

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Yeah, I doubt that, but, you know, it's a night of it. We're just heated it on yourself. And never say never.

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Yeah. The other option I was thinking is jigsaw, because also iconic horror or the babbiduke,

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because that is quite friggin scary. So let me babbiduke. Well, I will be able to look at you all night.

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I know. I know. But it's like kind of a slay. That's right. Well, it's gonna be amazing. I'm just

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gonna be cracking up all night. A bloody babbiduke. Yeah. So, so we're workshopping it. And then for night

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two, the Saturday night, I really want to be Dr. Evil. So, what not I'm wearing a mask the other night,

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I plan to wear a bold cap. So I think the, the likelihood of getting made out with is going

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lower and lower each cost. But if somebody's really into that, okay, I just had a brilliant like,

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light bulb moment. So night two, and I'm in that rocky horror costume that I'm kind of like,

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I don't know if I'm gonna scare that first thing for too long. And if I want to make sure

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I could meet up with you. And if you're Dr. Evil, I'll be Gold member.

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Ooh, that's good because it works for both. Yes. Bung in a blitz. Like, but a pancake.

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Shhh. Bung in a bung. Yeah. Yeah. Bung in a pancake.

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Yeah. Somebody please come and be fat bastard. Like sexy fat bastard.

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I think that's really hard to do. I think you would have to wear a mask. I think that's problematic

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in the year of our 2020. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would agree. But it would be cute. It's like not

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wearing the fat suit where you have like the little kil't. And you know, I'm workshopping it in my head.

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But I really want to be. I really want to be Dr. Evil. I've wanted to be it for like the last three

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years, but I can never find a last minute bold cap. I'm like, is everyone stealing my thunder

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and wearing a bold cap? I don't know. Okay. We're going to find you a bulk cap this week. Like, there has to be

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like spirit. Yeah. Just. Yeah. I haven't. I can order it. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

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I want us all all three of us should try on bold caps someday just because I want to know what we all look

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like. All. Yeah. I like that. I'll share mine. If I am, you know, next hang we can we can all put on

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my bald cap. Ew. Why does that sound like not? You want to slip onto my bold cap? Again. I bet you

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there's some type of porn about that. Yeah. If it's on the inner. There's porn of it. I'm putting it on the

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Patreon. All three of us putting on Olivia's bold cap and then peeling it off of ourselves and then

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putting it. I just slipped on Nicole. No, you guys can't see right now. Sean is literally literally

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like acting putting it on like she's coming out of a birthing canal. I'm like, I'm like trying to

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put a condom over my own head. I love that. It's so gross. So stay tuned for pictures of Dr. Evil and

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his bald cap adventures. This is what happens if we go too long without recording. Is the

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Davis get to get there? It just gets so staked. It's like the uh what is it? I don't know if you guys did

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this and when you were in elementary school but flat Stanley where he would travel like across the

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globe. It's like traveling. Traveling. You bald cap. This is traveling. The traveling bald cap.

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I'll take it on trips with me. Yes. Yeah. On your job that we won't mention what it is. Please

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just wear it one day. But don't tell me. It's okay. It's like social so people can find my social

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flight attend. Wear it on a plane. Please. Oh my god. Oh my god. Don't be wearing it actually.

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But act like nothing's happening. I will be like, hey guys. There's this girl who isn't allowed to

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have pink hair at her work. So instead she wears like these absurdist wigs. They're like the old

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parliamentary like English wigs. But they're in naturally existing colors. So she's like,

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yeah, this counts. Yeah, but it's it's great fun. George Washington wigs. Wait, I have to mention

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one thing because we out of Nicole as working as a flight attendant. And it reminds me of the last

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Pete Davidson recently hosted SNL. And you did this sketch and it's about, oh fuck what was the guy's name?

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The guy who pooped on the Delta flight. Have you heard about this Nicole? Oh my gosh. Yes.

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That is not the airline I work for by the way. What's inside of you? Yes. Tell us about that.

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Yes. What do you want to know? I don't know what you want. I don't work for it in the early year.

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Yeah, true. But like what is like the protocol here? Like so if somebody, did you guys train for this?

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I mean, yeah, it's a emergency landing. It's like you're up in the air and that happens. It's an

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emergency landing. But I think you was boarding because it was down the aisle. So it would be an

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emergency basically because it's a it's feces. So it's bio. You don't know what's exactly. Yeah,

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so you have to clean it up and everybody has to get off and you would have to change aircrops. Oh my god.

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Because that plane would have to like go out of service for a little bit and you would have to

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clean it up and it would have to be like deep cleaned and everything like that. Oh, this poor guy.

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You don't know what we have to go through training. Oh my god. He's walking down the aisle and he

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gets diarrhea. And there's like videos and pictures of down the aisle like just. Oh yeah. The

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driplets. The driplets. The driplets. Well, uh, you know, thank a Delta worker, I guess. Any

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fighter. Delta workers today. Thank your local Delta worker. Thank you for your service.

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You know, no, no, kind of battles they've seen today. You never know. You know, you really don't

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honestly. I love it. But I love my new job. But it's the things you see. Yeah. This reminds me.

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I love my job. We need to have like a flight themed episode. So like we can all watch airplay

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or something. And then we'll talk about movies that take place on an airplane. Yeah. Oh, that's a good

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one. Do you guys remember the mile high club the movie? I love Nicole's like, I don't want to go to work

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anymore. Yeah. I'd be like, uh, no, the mile high club movie where, oh god, Snoop dogs in it. It's

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like from the 2000s. Yes. Oh my god. Okay. That that movie would be worth a rewatch. It's so absurdist

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and ridiculous. And it wouldn't scare Nicole to go to work every day. We do have a whole

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episode dedicated to snakes on a plane. So shut up. Everybody wants to listen to that episode. I can't

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I know. You know, Louise also really good. Oh my gosh. I can't think of it. But I thought it's not

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called Captain, but it's one of Tom Hanks and he has to win in the Hudson. Oh, yeah. Captain Soli.

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Yeah. Soli. Yes. Yeah. That is actually really good. And it makes me hopeful that if that ever

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does happen to me, there's hope that I will survive. Yeah. And again, we are trained for those types of

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situations. And I know exactly what to do, but still it's scary. That makes me feel better

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uping on a plane. Nicole because I get a little nervous and I fly and I always like, I don't care

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what time it is. I have a flight next week at like six in the morning. I'm gonna have a glass of

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wine. Like, you're safe. You want to plane then you are in a car. Just saying. I know. And I always

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tell myself, my husband told me so now it sticks with me. If the flight attendants aren't freaking out,

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then I shouldn't. If there's a moment I try to never leave out, then that means I can lease my

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shit. Yeah. But not you're good. You're good. Yeah. Love it. Well, pooping all, you know, we're gonna

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take a quick break and we'll be back. If you can't tell by the day you're listening to this or our

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recent discussion, this is going to be our Halloween episode for the pop culture junkies. Spooky.

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If you can't tell, we're all big hands of hands of whole four.

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No, that was perfect. Perfect. No notes. We are all fans of horror. Horror. Horror.

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Horror. Horror. Horror. Horror. Horror. Horror.

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Love. Horror. And so we really wanted to talk about the final girl phenomenon. So the final

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girl is a character archetype in horror films mainly in slasher's. But she's been known as like the

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last woman alive to confront the antagonist who's often frequently male and most of the time

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emerges as victorious. Hence the final girl. Whenever I was doing research for this, I was really

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interested to find that the term final girl really didn't come around until 1992. It's from the book

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Men, Women and Chain Saws, Gender in the Modern Horror film by Carol J. Clover. And she really

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could have first looked at this significance of the final girl in slasher film. So even if you've

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never read the book, you've probably seen a lot of these characteristics in the 90s and 2000s horror

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movies we saw. So if you guys had to put your finger on it, what would you say? The

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characteristics of a final girl are in your mind. So when I think of the final girl, I guess

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I'm shocked that it only came out in 1992 because I think of movies before that that had final

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girls. But it makes sense that it wasn't like coined as a trope, I guess, until then. Yes.

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Yeah. But the final girl is definitely not the for a lack of a better term quote slut in the movie.

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Because a lot of these movies. Yeah, exactly. So it's like the Virgin Horde dichotomy and a lot of

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culture, right? So you see that one girl who's, she when she goes to the cabin, she wants to sneak off

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with Billy and make out and have sex in the woods. She's gonna die. Then there's the final girl.

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And she she'd rather be reading a book. She's a little like mouseier, you know, she's a probably

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at Virgin and she's going to be the final girl. So it's really that yeah, the Virgin Horde kind of,

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and you know, it reminds me of like Jennifer's body. I remember in the movie, they need to like

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sacrifice a Virgin. And then all they could find was Jennifer. And she definitely was it. So there's

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been like a lot of play on that. But I feel like the the final girl always has some kind of

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virginity about her. Yeah, like and I'm not like the other girls. Yeah. Yeah.

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that a lot of the time they're like witnessing horror of like trauma. There's a better word here.

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And like, you know, they've seen some shit. So they're like, oh, they're both virgins who are perfect

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and untouched, but they've also seen some stuff. So you should feel bad for them. I think that's

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something that you've already kind of seen like in-screen with her mother being dead and

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all that. So yeah, I think that's that's a big one. I think one instance in my mind is in Halloween

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where Laurie's walking home when they before she babysits and she's like, oh my god, I forgot my,

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I forgot what book, science books, social studies book, whatever. And then the other girls are like,

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oh my god, I forget my science book, my math book, this book every day, blah, blah, blah. Like, what's

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the big deal? And it's like, there always the bookworm, the teacher's pet kind of person. They're always a good,

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goodie person in the movie that always wants to be the perfect one in school and stuff like that.

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Yeah. Yeah, they're like the rule follower. Like they're like respect authority. Yeah.

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I think that's always such an interesting one. And then I do think it's interesting that she's always,

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I mean, she's smart and she's resourceful. So in the beginning, she might seem super vulnerable

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and screaming and running. But by the end, most final girls have some powerful final line right

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before they shoot the bad guy or like sent him to his demise. Just like, I won't be fucked with that

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final line. So it's like you can kind of see she's vulnerable in the beginning, kind of finds her

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resourcefulness through the film. Well, everyone else certainly doesn't. She's surrounded by dumbasses,

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pot heads and slacks. And then she, it's kind of like they all have that like iconic like

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outro line, like they have in like CSI where it's like, you know, like he didn't know he was going to

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get stabbed in the back. And it's always like some punchy one. Yeah, like something like that.

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But yeah, they always have that like, you know, stereotypical zinger, right? And you know,

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I think after a certain point, it became like people were looking for that where it's like,

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oh, that's what people remember. So it got a little overplayed. Yeah. But yeah, it's been,

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it's really interesting to see how it's kind of evolved over time. Exactly.

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We'll kind of go through some iconic, you know, tropes over the years in the history of the final

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girl. But yeah, I think she's always, you know, really had this virtual morality complex in the

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beginning. And now like you mentioned with like a Jennifer's body, it's kind of like playing on

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that and being like, well, why does that really matter? Exactly. I feel like in the beginning,

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and a lot of these horror movies were directed by men. And you know, this is what society, you know,

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expects of a woman is to be that virtual resourceful person. And it was kind of, if you are that girl

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who sneaks into the woods to have sex, the guys are going to like that. But at the same point, you

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probably deserve what the killer got you. You know, we never felt, you never feel that bad for the

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girl who gets stabbed in the woods while she's having sex. Or you're not supposed to feel as bad

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for her, you know, if you see her boobs, she's dead. Exactly. And she always has her top gets ripped

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off. And they make fun of that, you know, in scary movie where she's running and her bra falls off.

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And she's in the sprinklers and he stabs her in the breast and plants like it's I like how over

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the years like that final girl has become more of like a feminist icon of where she can kick ass

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and still have sex and still be herself. And yeah, you know what, she's smart enough to outlive

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everybody. And that final girl trope has changed a little bit in that sometimes it's not a girl who's

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the final girl. And a lot of these like I looked up lists of famous final girls and I found Daniel

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Kuluya's character from get out. Right. And it's like a famous fucking final girl. Yeah. Which also

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so hurts the trope of the black person dies first. And you know, yeah, unfortunately. Yeah. But yeah,

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I feel like the final girl has evolved over time to be not so fit into those regimens of the male

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gaze and what is this expected of women. Yeah, I really liked the hunt. Like I think it was a good

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like example of in 2020. The main woman in it her name is Betty Giplin in real life. But she really

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is imperfect. But you just know that she's like going to mess with people up. Yeah. And I think

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she was complicated enough to where you were able to see that and you like her not being perfect

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was actually like what made her live. So I think it's been really cool to see that celebration of

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like gender or race and and all those things. Yeah. Absolutely. Love it. So I was really curious. Like

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when did the final girl trope really begin? And so like early horror movies like Universal's

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monster films or Hitchcock's Thriller's didn't strictly conform to the final girl. I think they were

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a little too, you know, 1950s housewife to imagine that. But that's my personal opinion then. But they

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did kind of set this groundwork for the survival theme where we really start to see the tropes

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lilyfie is in the 1970s and 1980s with just slasher films in general. And so it's not necessarily the first

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I'm to ever do it. But Texas Chainsaw Massacre came out in 1974 and it was a really early example of

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that coming through with the woman living. Of course there's so many remakes with it. The

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just could be all one is the one that I grew up on. But you see that I've never seen. Yeah. I've never

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seen them. They're on my list like every October. Andrew and I have a list of horror movies that were

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like, okay, we've never seen this and that's embarrassing. So I think Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I grew up in

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Travis County, Texas, which is where Texas Chainsaw Massacre happens. I didn't realize that.

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Yeah. So I forever was so fucking scared of this movie. I loved it though. I just watched it from the

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time I was in like seventh grade. I used to watch it every year with my friend and like we still do it.

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Like we'll be hanging out near Halloween where like Texas Chainsaw Massacre. But it is really good.

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Technically like the real murders happened in I think Wisconsin or Michigan, but it's less sexy.

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Wisconsin's Chainsaw Massacre. No. Yeah. Texas. There was like a copycat in Texas, but you know,

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that was that was a really interesting one of a real-ish story kind of adapted. And of course

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that was imitating real life. So that trope kind of came out of a true story so to speak.

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And then the next one, which I think a lot of people think of when they the final girl would be

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Laurie Strode from Halloween. So Jamie Lee Curtis's character, she's kind of credit is like the first and

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most iconic of the final girls. She's resourceful. She fights off and unseemingly unstoppable Michael Myers.

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I haven't seen the most recent movies, but I think she's still alive right Nicole. Yep.

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Yep. Yeah. The very last one. I won't spoil it if you want to watch it, but obviously she's still alive

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in the last one. But yeah, the one before. But yeah, she's been through a lot. She has. She's a queen.

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I love Jamie Lee Curtis. She's such an iconic screen queen. And I loved her in screen queens.

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Oh, she's so good. Didn't last very long, but she's so good.

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Like when I was Ryan Murphy thing season one was amazing and then subsequent seasons like no.

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So the next one, which is ironic that I haven't seen it because my birthday sometimes falls on

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this day, which is Friday the 13th, which it did this year. Love that. And I didn't do anything spooky

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because I was working, which I was sad, but that's okay. Working can be spooky sometimes. That's real. But

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that's okay. I had fun on my birthday at work. So Alice Hardy in who was played by Adrian King in

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Friday the 13th in 1980. She fights off the killer Pamela Borjes in the inaugural entry of the series.

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And then we have Nancy Thompson played by Heather Langan Camp in a nightmare on Elm Street in 1984.

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And Nancy stands out by Canferney Freddie Krueger in both Dreams and Reality.

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I loved nightmare on Elm Street. Like I think it's just one of the creepiest stories like to think like

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you can die in a dream. Yeah, like that's not something any of us could possibly

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not do. So if it's like, I don't know. I saw the original one and I know they've redone it since

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that a number of times, but I'm just thinking like, do you just chug coffee and energy drinks? You just

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do a ton of cocaine. Yeah, a lot of vitamins. You have to sleep eventually. Yeah, well, and it's

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and I was watching this thing, you know, it was like the original cases behind nightmare on Elm Street

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and like where the inspiration comes from. So it is based on a true story. And I want to say it was within

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gosh, I can't remember the exact place. I feel like it was like Vienta and Meese children or

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Filipino children who were kind of stuck in like a war torn area at the time. And they were

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rescuing these children, these orphans from the area and then, you know, bringing them to the

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United States. And this boy at the time was saying that he was so afraid to go to sleep and he couldn't

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go to sleep and they were going to get him and they were going to get him. And he died in his sleep

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of like a heart attack at like 13 years old. And so like this, this didn't just happen to like one

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child that happened to numerous and like to the point where they were like starting to report on it.

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It's like the crazy thing is happening. Yeah. And so he started to write about it. Like what's Craven

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wrote it into a story. The Craziness part about that is like if you stay awake for three plus days,

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like you go into psychosis as well. Yeah, he's hallucinating for sure. So at that point like,

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yeah, you're gonna like maybe imagine the things that you're gonna imagine it if it's not there.

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Yeah, exactly. And then, you know, really where we start to see the final girl turn on its head is with

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the iconic Sydney Prescott in scream. And so, you know, she is joined among people like she is

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survived with other people. So she's not the last girl standing, but she really does start to call

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it out. Of course, scream is known for its meta horror, but really within the 90s is where we saw

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that start to shift. Yeah, exactly. And I'm thinking of Jennifer Love Hewitt's character and I know

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what you did last summer. And I know we just recently watched that live, but I don't remember anyone else

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survived with her, honestly, which she the only person who survived. No, Freddie Prince Jr. survives too.

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You're right. So there's a final girl and a final boy. So a little twist on that too.

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Good. I love that. In the 2000s, we get films like your next in cabin in the woods, which I am obsessed

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with. I love cabin in the woods. And we were talking about this today as a final girl movie, which,

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you know, it kind of is spoilers for a wonderful movie, cabin in the woods. She does live to the very end,

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like the main girl that we're following. Then the entire planet is destroyed.

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Is she a final girl because we all kind of die? And you know what? It's funny. Like, I love her and

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she made a choice and it was between murdering that one guy and kind of murdering the entire world.

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Yeah. And you know, I think she made the wrong choice there. I would have killed that guy.

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But you know, they just kind of sit out there at the end and like I like share a joint in the world.

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And I was like, no, this is sick. I love this movie. So flips it on a tat again.

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I love that. I love that. That's amazing. Yeah. I think, you know, it's their movies that are really

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starting to subvert it like we said, like they're final boys in it. And we're really starting to

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kind of see this meta commentary or changing of the monsters of the villains moving away from

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slashes. But I think that will always kind of have this and this trope within horror because it is

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that symbol of like surviving trauma and you know, having agency and the ability to live within the

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the deepest darkest of horrors. But what I really want to know from you guys is what horror universe

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would you be a final girl in and why do you think that you would survive? Oh man. This one was hard

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because I went through a big list and I was like, I would die. I would totally die. I would

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fucking die. Like Freddie Kruber. Oh, I'm dead. I'm not. Yeah. So much. Like straight to death.

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Straight to bed. I'm gonna get my home to Mimi's anytime. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm

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have asleep right now. I'm sleepy talking right now. Somebody is weak and burning me right now

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through this podcast. What I think I would survive in is mid-summer. So the main character Danny

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played by Florence Pue goes to Sweden, Ruele Sweden with her boyfriend who's a total fucking ass.

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And in the end, major spoilers for mid-summer because I know this one only came out four years ago or so.

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If you guys haven't seen it, it's incredible. It's one of those horror movies. It takes place in the

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middle of the day, which is always very unnerving. You expect shit and horror movies to go down

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nighttime. This one is sunny the entire time. She finds her boyfriend cheating on her. She gets

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crowned the May Queen dances around. She becomes clean of this celebration. She gets to choose if she

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wants a villager to die or if she wants her boyfriend to die. She chooses a boyfriend.

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And they got a bear, poor bear, by the way, that bear didn't do anything.

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What her boyfriend into a bear suit in the light of my fire. All of his asshole friends also

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die, which I'm here for. And I think I could survive this because her boyfriend in that movie

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just reminds me of my ex so bad. Danny in this movie is going through the biggest trauma of her

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life. In the beginning of the movie, both of her parents and her sister die. Her sister does

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like a murder suicide. Her whole family is dead. She's going through some murders. She's

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yeah. And her boyfriend is like, just, I'm sorry, you're sad. I'm just about good over it.

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Which is totally what my ex did when I was going through trauma similar to that. And we went on

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a vacation in the whole time. He's like, well, I heard you having more fun. And I should have burned

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that man alive in a bear suit. Oh, man. I agree. When you started to say mid-summer, I was like,

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is she really going to say, I would survive because my mom's already dead.

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Then you went there a little more delicately than me. But, yes, I have #deadmomclub with Danny

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from this movie. I also have a huge, a huge boyfriend. Maybe that's another final girl they all

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are moms are dead. All your parents are dead. Yeah, they are dead. That's the trauma.

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So yeah, and also the reason I would survive in mid-summer is I'm a wonderful dancer. She gets

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around like a mate queen because she dances in a circle longer than all the other bitches.

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Tell me to do that. See me in the club.

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Bottleful above, mama. Do you have a good sense of like equal liberty? I'm not because like that.

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That's that's what gets you in the dancing. You know, they get a little dizzy.

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I think I could do it. I think I could do like a good I got my double pure wet down or at least I did

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when I was 16. I have a stretch in a couple years. Let me stretch. Get me back with my abusive ex

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and take some drama mean. We're good. He's in a bear suit on the mate queen. We're done.

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Yeah, okay. I like that. I like that. I like it. I always, okay, so my brother had never seen

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mid-summer, but my cousin had a wedding that looked exactly like mid-summer. And I, later,

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I was like looking around and I was like, dude, we're getting mid-summer right now.

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I, my brother, come home from this wedding and I make him watch it and he just like looks over at me

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and he was like, dude, we did get mid-summer. And I was like, do we need to check like any of the

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pictures and see if there was like some pink wine that my cousin was drinking?

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Yeah, dude, everyone's standing in a circle and go, "Huh?"

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And I'd be falling in love. I wasn't there for that part, but who knows? I wasn't in the

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the bridal party. Then we could have had the bride's party.

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The bridal party, absolutely, but what about you guys?

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It took me minutes to think about this as well. I feel like I'm like a horror queen,

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but then I'm like, I haven't really seen many horror movies.

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You're like, "I like what I like. I like my university."

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Yeah, I get there too.

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So out of the ones that I've watched, I'm like, I feel like I could survive Halloween.

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I feel like I could survive Michael.

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Yeah, it's exactly. My guy is slow.

360
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,560
She's open, or she's a check star.

361
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:50,600
Yeah.

362
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:56,680
Oh my gosh, but I feel like I kind of have some hilarities to Laurie.

363
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:57,560
Okay.

364
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,320
I would be the one that would be like, "Oh my gosh, I forgot my book."

365
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,080
I wasn't like a nerd.

366
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:08,600
But I would be like freaking out if I missed a homework assignment because I, again,

367
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,680
wasn't a nerd, but I cared about my grades.

368
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,320
Kind of good.

369
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:11,880
Nerd.

370
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,720
Yeah, so I just...

371
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:15,080
Yeah.

372
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,280
You could call me a nerd, it's okay.

373
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,080
I didn't babysit though growing up, but we could throw that in there.

374
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:21,560
That's fine.

375
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,840
I did it was all.

376
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,000
I was like, I was a goody goody.

377
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,640
I was like, "That's a good thing."

378
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,440
Yeah.

379
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,640
Didn't do anything.

380
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,840
Didn't go out, didn't party, didn't do anything.

381
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,120
It's just a household I grew up and I was too scared to do anything.

382
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:36,440
Yeah.

383
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,840
That's where we're not married.

384
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:44,120
But yeah, I grew up in Illinois too, so I mean, that's that.

385
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,480
I wasn't in...

386
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,600
Where was yet hadn't field?

387
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:47,960
I think it was at Illinois.

388
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,120
Yeah.

389
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,720
Yeah.

390
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:51,480
So I grew up in Illinois, so that's a similarity.

391
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,160
But yeah, my man's is so low.

392
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,560
Yeah, I'm like, Nicole's got feats.

393
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,720
Listen, Nicole, be going up and down that aisle of the airplane, pushing that hard.

394
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:02,440
I would.

395
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,160
She got feats.

396
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,080
I would.

397
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:11,160
And too, I'm like, out of all of these murderers or scary people,

398
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,840
I don't get why you just don't take a knife or something or...

399
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,240
trigger warning gun.

400
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:20,440
I said, you would ever shot him in the head.

401
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,640
Yeah.

402
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,600
That's what I'm saying.

403
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:22,840
Well...

404
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,840
But I don't know, I don't really remember the last movie very much.

405
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,360
It's show him this man.

406
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,800
I thought I remember when I did last week.

407
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,080
But oh my gosh.

408
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,360
Like, yeah, shoot him in the head or just like the head him.

409
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,240
Like, come on.

410
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:38,280
What are we doing people?

411
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,120
Like, that's what I would do.

412
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,360
Because again, my man's is so low.

413
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:47,880
I feel like he has to have like, zone the roles, you know?

414
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,120
Like...

415
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,080
I wasn't gonna say that, but he dies in the last one,

416
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,840
but I wasn't gonna spoil it.

417
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,640
But why did they do that shit 40 years ago?

418
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,480
They should have shot him in the head.

419
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,600
Listen, I am not team shoot people in the head.

420
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,840
Generally, as in general...

421
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,120
Unless he tries to kill me then.

422
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,800
Self-defense queen.

423
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,720
That's a good chance.

424
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:08,600
That's a good chance.

425
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,400
That's a good chance.

426
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:09,720
Thank you.

427
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:13,080
As in general, there's one thing you need to know about

428
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,240
Shana Tridad, it's that I don't condone.

429
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:18,120
Usually shooting mid in the head.

430
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,720
Unless they really deserve it.

431
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:26,120
I accept you just said you would kill that,

432
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,880
that mofo and a bear suit.

433
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,600
Like, you know, I think she is.

434
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,800
She's a man in the head is different than

435
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,080
paralyze him alive.

436
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,440
The use of X and just...

437
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,440
She was in him as a sacrifice to...

438
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,360
And just burning him alive in a bear suit.

439
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,400
Okay, let's go do now.

440
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,080
Let's go to know we have a discussion.

441
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,200
Team or bear suit burn.

442
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,200
Yeah, bear suit burn.

443
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,240
The bear to end is a...

444
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:52,280
Self-defense.

445
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,720
Self-defense.

446
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:55,640
Yeah, I like it.

447
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,680
I like it.

448
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,200
I think that you would survive.

449
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,200
What would be your weapon?

450
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,040
Obviously, we just talked about that one, but...

451
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,240
Airmanal.

452
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:03,640
Playing cards.

453
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,720
Your mouth?

454
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:08,040
Yeah, my words.

455
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,600
Girl, what that mouth is to rise, Nicole?

456
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,640
What that mouth's to?

457
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:14,520
Fucking kill you.

458
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,280
No.

459
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,440
My weapon of choice would be...

460
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,800
As graphic as it is, probably a gun.

461
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,160
I mean, that's like...

462
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:25,480
Yeah.

463
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,920
The worst that I can do.

464
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,400
The worst that I can do.

465
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:27,880
I mean...

466
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,160
Yeah.

467
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,080
It's worked for 200 years.

468
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,280
Let's try it.

469
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,160
Let's gonna say there's a reason it fucking kills so many people.

470
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,280
It goes like fucking...

471
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,560
He has a knife in it.

472
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,040
Or like...

473
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,520
A knife, like...

474
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,560
It takes like...

475
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,360
I brought this somewhere.

476
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,880
I forgot like the actual wording of this,

477
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,440
but like if you're six feet away from someone with a knife,

478
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,000
that's like the closest or something that I could take for it to kill you.

479
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,040
Yeah, they could just like grab it from you.

480
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:54,600
The distance.

481
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:54,920
Yeah.

482
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,680
Don't bring a knife to a gun.

483
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,560
So like...

484
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:57,880
Yeah.

485
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,480
Anchorman?

486
00:44:59,480 --> 00:44:59,800
Yeah.

487
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,880
You know what I just thought?

488
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,160
Well, you were trying to think of your weapon and you said your mouth

489
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,840
before we get to lose.

490
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,680
There's another great...

491
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,960
Circulate back to Nicole's mouth.

492
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:12,920
Circulate back to that.

493
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,080
There's another great final girl maybe.

494
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,240
I came out in 2007 called teeth.

495
00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:21,240
Have you guys seen this thing?

496
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:21,640
Yes.

497
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,000
Nicole.

498
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,360
Nicole.

499
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:24,840
So...

500
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,080
Am I...

501
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,040
And I watched this video.

502
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,000
I can't have a watch match.

503
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,640
Listen.

504
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,000
Please watch this.

505
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,360
Feminist baby.

506
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:40,920
So when I first started dating Andrew, we watched this together and I don't think we had sex for like...

507
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,480
I'm like a month after.

508
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:43,800
Yeah.

509
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,960
So it's this girl...

510
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,360
Basically a very quick plot.

511
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:55,000
She is a teenage spoke person for a Christian abstinence group.

512
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,360
Preaches abstinence and gets a purity ring.

513
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,080
All that stuff.

514
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,400
She loses her virginity for the first time.

515
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,520
Or I think she maybe it's through sexual assault.

516
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,080
I feel like I can get to know this is going.

517
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:07,320
Yeah.

518
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,320
She gets assaulted and she is teeth.

519
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,720
Her vagina has teeth in her.

520
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:12,920
And...

521
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,520
Okay, not where I thought it was going.

522
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,000
Yeah.

523
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:23,240
And her vagina, anyone who assaults her like if the dick is there against her will,

524
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:24,680
her vagina bites it off.

525
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,640
Yeah.

526
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,440
And then...

527
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:26,680
And then it's...

528
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:27,160
And then it's...

529
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,120
What a weapon a dog.

530
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,400
And then a dog eats it.

531
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,000
It is.

532
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:33,960
That's probably...

533
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:34,520
That's a good weapon.

534
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:35,480
That's a good weapon.

535
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,120
Yeah, don't watch this around your boyfriend, but it is such a fun movie.

536
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,360
Watch it around him just so he knows what's up.

537
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,120
So he just knows what's up.

538
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,640
Um, no, it is one of the funniest movies to watch with a man now.

539
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:55,400
You know, beware the consequences like Sean has said, but it is one of the funniest

540
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,160
squirming moments for men.

541
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,840
And I think it's great fun to turn it on in front of them.

542
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,960
If you were a assaulted woman, you deserve to get your dick bit off and spin out in front of a person.

543
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:05,960
Yeah.

544
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,840
And burn to a bear suit.

545
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,400
And burn to a bear suit and Sean the head.

546
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,760
Yeah.

547
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,520
Yeah, don't hurt any of us apparently.

548
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,880
Or please don't use this as evidence.

549
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,840
We are joking.

550
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,240
Hi, Nicole's new boyfriend.

551
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:23,640
Hi.

552
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,240
I love this.

553
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:27,880
I love this.

554
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,080
What are you surviving and why is it the movie teeth?

555
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,800
No, it was a good one.

556
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,000
Teeth was a good one.

557
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,160
Um, I was really ultimately...

558
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,880
I think I would survive in a few of them, but they're kind of the more absurd of the

559
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,080
universe is.

560
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,360
So I was really between two, Sean of the dead.

561
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,800
I have a good record collection.

562
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,080
I could just toss those.

563
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,400
I got a re-offering bar.

564
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,040
You know, I've got all of those boxes checked.

565
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,160
I could totally do that.

566
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,120
We're just heading back to the casual pint for a good pint.

567
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,240
Yes, yeah.

568
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:01,160
There are a lot of windows in there.

569
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,280
So unfortunately, you know, that might not work out.

570
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,520
But I ultimately landed on

571
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,320
screen and there is no replacement for Sydney Prescott.

572
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,400
But if there's one thing about Ghostface is that Mofo

573
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,480
is going to be clumsy.

574
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,160
He's gonna fall.

575
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,200
He's gonna do a little trippy and you know what?

576
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,800
I think that I could get away.

577
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,880
Well, I think that I could get away in time.

578
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,960
At least put enough obstacles in its place.

579
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,160
I also love horror movies if you can't tell.

580
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,840
So I do think that I would at least make it to the second one.

581
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:39,960
You know, I would be more of like the it's Steve.

582
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,960
I would get in there.

583
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,640
I could see you lasting a while in like the apocalypse too.

584
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:46,440
I could see that.

585
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,400
Oh, thank you.

586
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:47,880
Thank you.

587
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,080
So you're saying my apocalypse car was best?

588
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,240
I'm not saying that.

589
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:58,600
You'd be the only survivor.

590
00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,320
Yeah.

591
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,040
You're like it.

592
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:00,600
I like it.

593
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,320
Yeah, there we go.

594
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,040
There we go.

595
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,520
And you know, if you're a shot of the dead,

596
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,560
then I'm his zombie best friend that you keep changing up.

597
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,960
In the garage.

598
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:10,280
Yeah, I think so.

599
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,120
Because I'm absolutely being a zombie.

600
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:17,320
Like a shot of yeah, yeah.

601
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,240
Yeah, yeah, good job.

602
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:19,720
Yeah.

603
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:25,720
Yeah, so you know, really I think it would be good fun.

604
00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:29,320
I also love a creative lock on a door.

605
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,280
So I think that you know, I would I would survive.

606
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,000
I love that.

607
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,400
I see survival instincts in each of us.

608
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,360
We're resourceful.

609
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,160
We're sassy.

610
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:42,280
Because you are our sexuality and our mouths.

611
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:47,240
Our mouths and our vagina dintada seconds.

612
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:48,280
Yeah, yeah.

613
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:53,000
Also, the other thing in the screen one is like color ID exists now.

614
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,760
And like I could just block your number.

615
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,160
And like, you know, you know, that's a big one.

616
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,840
I love it.

617
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:01,880
I love it.

618
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,040
Well, one thing that I wanted to say before we wrap up this

619
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:13,480
horror Halloween episode is have you guys seen Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey?

620
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,080
I haven't.

621
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,440
But you told me spoiler.

622
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,120
Now I don't know if I want to watch it.

623
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,800
It was literally in the first one minute of the movie.

624
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,880
So what's it on?

625
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,280
It's on peacock.

626
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,520
So definitely worth a watch.

627
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,640
I also saw it's funny.

628
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,240
It's terrible.

629
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:34,200
It's a terrible movie.

630
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,560
But it's worth the watch.

631
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,440
Another one, the other two that I'm going to watch before this spooky season ends

632
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,120
is the slothening.

633
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,200
I think I watched the slothening.

634
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,440
Okay, you can come over and watch it.

635
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,480
Yeah, yeah.

636
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,480
I think it's on Hulu or Prime.

637
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:52,280
I can't remember.

638
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,920
But the other one that I am dying to watch is the Velasa pastor.

639
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,320
Oh my god, yes, please.

640
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,280
Please, can we do that for my Christian trauma?

641
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,280
Yes, yes.

642
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:12,280
Yes, so the Velasa pastor is this guy like can turn into a Velasa raptor.

643
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,360
And he's like fighting Satan.

644
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,280
Yeah, and he's like fighting Satan.

645
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,160
So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

646
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,680
Yeah, what have we watched so far?

647
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:26,680
We watched Totally Killer, which had a lot of plot holes and you had to kind of,

648
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,200
I don't know.

649
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,240
It did make a lot of sense.

650
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,800
Just texted me about that and was like, you should watch it.

651
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,720
It was enjoyable.

652
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:35,000
I enjoyed myself.

653
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,200
You have just his spedus belief a lot, but it was it was a good time.

654
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,320
He texted me and said, I think you would enjoy this.

655
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,320
I think you would enjoy it too.

656
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,320
Then he's saying that I'm stupid.

657
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,280
I told you, you would like this.

658
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,400
It's so really dumb.

659
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:54,280
I would though, as I finished the episode saying,

660
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,480
hey, I'm going to watch you should watch Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey.

661
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,560
Well, lots of faster.

662
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,960
So expect to be.

663
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,680
Okay, so I'm going to go now so I can make dinner and watch his

664
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,880
caring movie by myself.

665
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,000
Yeah, because my house has been so.

666
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,720
Yeah, well, I watched you guys the entire time.

667
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:16,680
Yeah, well, that about wraps up this episode of Pop Culture Junkie.

668
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But before we take that final long look at the camera and say something cheeky,

669
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,360
Nicole and Shauna are working.

670
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The listeners find you on social media.

671
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You can find me on Instagram and Tik Tok @nicole_eldridge. I love that.

672
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:43,560
I follow you on both of those. Good stuff. You can find me, Shauna, on Instagram and Tik Tok. I am on

673
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:49,080
the Instagram Twitter knockoff, but I don't ever use it. So let's just do Instagram and Tik Tok

674
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:57,320
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675
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:07,880
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676
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677
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678
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679
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680
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681
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682
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So entertain me, entertain me right now.

683
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684
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