[MUSIC PLAYING]
Told you he is, folks.
It's so time.
People pay good money to see this movie.
When they go out to a theater, they
want cold sewage, a hot pop plorn, and no monsters
in the projection booth.
Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring.
Then it'll arms.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
Oh, don't mind me.
I'm just getting ready for the premiere of a Brad new motion.
I think sure I've been done like anything you've ever seen.
Enter the draft of Dragon for you see I am sad and colored.
And I start as a front view.
Your door gorgeous and dangerous hero is free.
Your dream.
It's used me.
Hold up everyone.
Listen, I don't know what you've been told, but I am Jade London.
If I am the star of the soon-to-be world-wide sensation
and trick the drag dragon, probably crunch the lead role.
And I am the one and only drag we call fool master.
I am the star of the drag.
Listen, pay no attention to those two bitches.
There's only one real star of this picture.
And it's me.
Matt, me, what?
Watch me transcend the screen as crouched
and kick some ass while I do it.
By the end of this film, you will even remember the sand,
begle, and jag, London all.
[LAUGHTER]
Ladies, ladies, ladies, ladies.
All right.
So we all play crunch and enter the drag dragon.
Overbe so big it took three drag queens to complete it.
So get ready for cinematic experience.
Pull up.
Drank?
Drank games.
I'm not a dude but a cup zombies.
Mummy and droids.
Blash.
Strikers.
Bear, busted, vixins.
Spoys in his boobies.
Oh, baby.
I think I have to think, believe me.
I'm major who.
Explosion.
A basket full of digs.
And so much more we can fit in this trailer.
So who are you?
Supposed to be.
Where the crazy dragon detectives in the pool.
Barbeards, cast on land, sea, and air.
Sam Kevin, jay, London, and Matt Meal.
All star as the right.
In the world's first ever drags, location action, back.
Also star, Beatrice Bears, Bill Corrapis, Josh, Grace, Mark McDonald, Italian Marad.
Judy, Jibor, Menifran, Scotemon, Quintana Taylor, Kirby, Natus, Ali Quinn, Castas
Goat, Jesse Goat, Brendan Cap, Jay, Nick, Gordon, Gerard, Derek, Rustin, Jason
Com, Dave, Big Nell, Peter Munnick.
Will King Wailong, Laurie Harith, Dan Mar, Jonathan Haynes, Elliot, Walker,
Mashie DeWa, and featuring special appearances by Lloyd Causon, Johnny Vegas, Greg Sisteran.
Knock a lot, bitch.
Enter the drag dragon.
Run!
A drag food action comedy horror musical you won't want to make.
Do I really?
I'm a detective.
You're the first detective.
Everland.
What's going on?
That's a two-star.
So, it'll be fun.
Five, totally.
If you want to see entertainment drag, drag, and ask your mama.
Hey folks, welcome to the special episode of the projection booth.
I'm your host Mike White.
On this episode, I'm talking with Lee, the marb, the director of the new film Enter the Drag
Dragon.
If Lee's voice sounds familiar, it's because he'd been on the show before we had him on way back
when we talked about Jesus Christ vampire hunter.
Check out the interview.
Check out Enter the Drag Dragon, and I hope you enjoy.
Lee's been a few years since we've talked.
We've got a lot of catching up to do.
We're having me.
Oh, thank you so much for coming back on the show.
You always make such interesting and delightful films.
Big fan of your work, of course.
Tell me what you've been up to over the last few years before we even start to talk about Enter the Drag
Dragon.
It's been a little bit between directing projects and memory serves.
I haven't directed a film since in 14 years.
Wow.
In the 14 years, I tried my best to make movies.
Many movies came my way.
I just didn't happen.
I spent 14 years not making movies.
But trying to make movies.
It was so sad.
Meeting producers and investors who took me down an exciting pass that led nowhere.
And I was creating felt a little relief recently.
My favorite film of the years, Tara.
Have you seen Tara with Kim?
Yeah.
No.
So that director had a 16 year hiatus.
And I thought, okay, I beat him.
I had a lot of exciting projects slipped through my fingers.
I was going to do a Jackie Chan project.
Wow.
It does do some action film in Jamaica with Fred Wameson.
I was going to go to the Philippines and direct the sequel to Cannibal Holocaust, which would have been thrilling.
And they'd have been just like sometimes you chased a dragon and they were chasing.
I had such a good time making into the drag dragon.
It took over three years to make the movie because of what happened.
My mother got sick and then COVID happened.
It took over three years to finish the movie.
But I wish I was still filming it because we had such a good time.
And it made me think that, geez, I wish I didn't chase that dragon.
I wish I just kept making these no budget movies.
I would at least had something to show for it.
But here we are.
And I'm really happy with that.
I'm happy with that.
And then drag dragon.
It's like the first film I've ever made where I'm actually excited to show people.
Sometimes it's a nerve-wracking show in your movies and fun of an audience.
But this one, I don't know.
It's easy.
My last two films that I made.
The last the very last film I made is strip naked.
And we shot the whole movie in two weeks.
It was one of the biggest budgets I ever budgeted.
I've ever had.
But it was terrible being on set because it wasn't about trying to make the best movie you could.
It was about trying to get through the day.
And I hated that feeling.
And I'd rather work on a no budget movie and try to make the best movie I could with no money.
Instead of having all the money in the world.
But only 14 days to shoot it and just be pointing the camera and not having a time to work with the actors or figure out anything interesting with the camera.
He'd have been on set.
And I ran to my movie theater that I run now.
Hit there for 14 years trying to make the movies and realize, holy shit.
I was living the dream when I made Jesus Christ vampire.
I was living the dream when I made Harry Nuckles in the pro necklace.
I want to go back to that.
I thought the dream was to make movies with other people's money.
That was in the dream.
I was living the dream and it was time to go back.
It was time to go back to sleep and dream a little.
It's called that dream.
That last dream I had is called Enter the Dragon.
So how does this project come about?
Do you just one day wake up and you're like, that's it.
This is over. I'm doing this or what are those dominoes that have to fall in the place for this.
That's a very good question. I didn't wake up thinking drag queens.
I, okay, so I good question that we had to go back to 2013 when we had the first draft of the script.
And back then it was called sneaky tiger fatty dragon.
And the whole film, it was all children.
It wasn't a kids movie, but the whole movie was children.
And I thought it'd be fun to do a wild martial arts film with, you know,
made for adults, featuring children in the lead roles.
Like all the villains would be children and all the heroes would be children.
And they'd be shooting and fighting and they'd be wild.
I love movies like Bad News Bears movies that have children in it that necessarily don't talk down to children.
You know what I mean? A lot of kids movies are talked down to kids like they're like, like,
like, like, special needs or something.
So that was my idea. Everyone in my circle,
who I pitched this to, no one was interested.
And I often got questions like, "Why do you want to make a kids movie?"
I'm not making a kids movie. I'm making a movie with kids in it.
But no one liked this idea.
And I should pre-facts that when he delivered that script in 2013,
we had he had delivered three scripts.
Mark Paulis, I'll wrote this film, had three scripts.
Two of which were really cool movies that needed to be budgeted properly.
And I said, because we weren't making movies, we were trying to get these movies made.
We weren't making movies. I said the mark.
You know what our problem is?
We're showing this movie to producers.
We're trying to show this movie to investors to get money to make a movie.
Why don't we just fucking make it?
Why don't we take this script?
The key tiger fatty dragon.
And go out and make that movie.
Because I think I can make that movie, post of the other ones.
Like we did Jesus Christ Vampire and Harry Knuckles.
So that's why we chose that film.
But it had kids.
And no one was interested.
No one.
My musician friend Dave Beignon, who did bitch boots in this movie,
which is sensational song.
He did slush panties and Harry Knuckles.
He did Pearl Knuckles in the movie Pearl Knuckles.
He did everybody gets a late tonight.
Jesus Christ Vampire and here.
He always makes a, my movie is 100 times better.
He gives these more serious winners.
And he looked at me one night and he was like, why, why do you want to make this movie?
So I kind of felt a little down about the film and I'm not blaming him.
And I went to a screening of the Rocky Horror Picture Show in Ottawa because we show the Rocky Horror Picture Show at the May Fair Theatre.
And there I was after the movie talking to Sam Kettaman, who stars in the film.
He plays crunch.
He does Rocky Horror Picture Show live on the stage.
And he was making me laugh. He knows a lot about film.
He's got a really particularly good taste in movies, which I like.
And I love talking to movie movies.
But he made me laugh sincerely.
And I left the main fair.
My cinemat went to the same bar where no one was interested in this movie.
And there was a hockey game on.
Everyone was watching hockey and talking to me about sports.
And you ever talked to someone and you're not paying attention to anything they say.
You're looking through them.
I was looking through all these people because I was thinking about, wait a minute.
What if Sam started my movie?
Maybe the movie's not about kids fighting crimes.
It's a drag queen fighting crimes.
That's the other thing I didn't have for this movie.
Jesus Christ vampire care was at work.
And I got people involved because it was an easy pitch.
People would say to me, what's the movie about?
I'd say it's a Kung Fu action comedy horror musical about the second coming called Jesus Christ vampire.
I don't do it.
Oh, I want to be a part of that everyone would say to me.
So I didn't have a good pitch for the new movie and I didn't have a good title.
And then I thought for myself drag queen.
The drag queen martial arts.
I don't think they've ever made one before.
And they could be called enter the drag dragon.
And I felt so excited about that title.
And so excited about the premise.
Hockey wasn't on TV anymore.
And I was like, oh my god, it was like a year reek of moment.
You ever have a year reek of moment.
And then I got so passionate about this and I got on the phone the next day with the right.
I mean rewrote everything.
But we still the script is almost the same.
So the crowd because people laugh at all of it's all the parts of the movie that remind them of still a kids movie.
It's got this.
It's got this crunchiness friends all.
I'll have to be home for dinner.
You know, and then they still live with their parents and that's what's same like about it.
Most of all the guy who plays crunch.
He said, I like your script because it's not about a drag queen.
The lead character just happens to be a drag queen.
And that's what works about it.
Yeah, so all those chips fell in the place that way.
That's a long answer to your question, but I like telling that story.
You said that Sam plays crunch, but many people play crunch.
And I'm curious is that a are you being super avant-garde?
Are you being looped and well?
That's so lins or is it just we needed to change because this project was taking so long.
I wish I could be all those people admire those filmmakers.
And sometimes it seems out of my grasp.
This is what happened.
People love art as say absolutely no compromise.
I'm not making any compromise.
And I'm not calling what happened on our film over and over again.
Lead me to compromise, but every negative thing that's didn't the way of getting this movie.
Not made turned into a positive everything.
And it's amazing.
It's like the May fair theater.
I run a single screen theater across the street from a multiplex.
There's no reason on earth why our cinema should be open, but every time we run into
wall, we leap over it gladly.
Three negative turns into a positive.
So that happened here.
But it was 2018.
I had a script rating with the entire cast and crew.
We had our first draft of the intro the drag dragon.
And I had the entire cast and crew sit down at the May fair theater and put a three long
tables and we read the script all together.
It was really exciting.
I was looking forward to doing it and we're going to start shooting within that week.
What happened just before I sat down at my table is I got a call from Newfoundland, which is a province
out east here in Canada.
That my mother was second she was dying.
And she didn't have very long to live.
And I sat down at the script rating.
This time it wasn't so much I was looking through so many instances.
Explain to that how you're I was there.
I was present, but one point had to take a break from the read.
To go call my dad to tell him that mom was dying.
So we got through the script rating and I didn't tell anybody.
I kept it to myself the next day realizing I can't start this movie next week.
I need to put the breaks on a little bit.
And so I put the breaks on a little bit and my mother went to the hospital.
We did all that chemo stuff.
And I had I should say I had a very positive experience of my mother did pass.
And I had a very positive.
It was really great because I spent all my free time with it.
In the end of the hospital I said to mom, I'm going a little nuts.
You know what would take my mind off your passing a little bit.
Give me a break.
Let me go make my movie on Saturday or Sunday.
Let me take my mind off of this for a few hours and I'll come back.
I would be with my mother from Monday till Saturday and shoot on a Sunday.
That's how we started and we were shooting here and there.
And so I was only shooting a couple hours a week.
And then when she got really sick, I'd have to stop.
And then she could better when shoot again and then she could sick.
It was a hard start and then when my mother did die, COVID started.
Oh my God, just when I thought I was getting okay my mother passed a month went.
But I need to make this movie because the movie became therapy.
It kind of gave me it was like my kryptonite.
I was so down above my mother passing.
She gave me my love for movies and Star Wars.
Let me make this movie and get my mind off of things.
But COVID started and Sam told me too because we were having all these slow starts.
And he said to me, I'm now, I've got a job.
He got a serious job.
I can't be available every time you're available now.
And I thought Sam, I need to make this movie because my mother passed away.
And I just, I haven't made a movie in 10 years at that point.
I need to make this movie.
And I have this idea of changing the lead actor, but not replacing him.
And I thought to myself, it could be really funny, but I can't change him once after changing twice.
I have to make each actor the movie a different leading actor.
And if I can do that, then I think it's really funny.
It was inspired by two movies.
One of which was a manual for.
I don't know if you know the manual movies.
But the Civic Ristel played a manual in the first three.
The side of she didn't want to really be in part four.
So she filmed the sequence at the beginning of the movie.
She goes to get plastic surgery.
They put the bandages in her face and she comes out against the different actors.
A younger man, you know.
And then in walking tall too, that happens again.
The lead vigilante goes get shot.
He gets into a car accident at the end of part one.
And part two opens and then take his bandage off to different actors.
And I always thought that was funny.
And I wanted to do it in Harry Knuckles actually.
It was an idea I had for Harry Knuckles.
That he would die come back a different actor.
So here it is.
And try it and sand game it the permission to move forward that way.
Sam, I'm going to keep everything I shot with you in the movie.
But I'm now going to shoot the second act with Jay London.
I'm going to set shoot the third act with Matt Mewa.
And when I watch the movie with audiences, that's their favorite part of the film.
Then you know that guy was the musician who did slush panties.
He told you that he didn't.
He wasn't interested in all the movie.
It was about to make.
I showed him drag dragon like before in the music was put in.
And he loved when crunch turned into Jay London.
He was like, holy shit Lee, that's brilliant.
It worked so well.
And I was so used to watching it.
I didn't think it was a big deal anymore.
I forgot the magic of cheating changing the lead actor.
And I was so happy that the guy who wasn't interested in this movie.
Originally was so interested now what was happening.
So it was a negative.
When your lead actor says I can't finish your movie.
And we finished it anyway.
And he gives me his blessing.
Negative to turn into an extreme positive.
And glad to hear that it was.
Amicable because there was always the fear of.
Oh, this person walked off.
So I'm so glad that that happens.
Because I was you must have then had to have shot everything in sequence or just about everything.
I started off that when I often don't.
But you know what.
I love hearing about movies that are shot in sequence.
It never happens.
They shot ET in sequence, which makes a lot of sense because the kids fall in love with
them.
And then moving when they're thinking about ET to really saying goodbye to ET.
It's beautiful.
That the decision making when filmmakers make a movie with a budget.
She didn't sequence.
I think it's lovely.
But with Sam for some reason we started off making this movie because as the movie goes along the third act is all action.
And I have a pepper it with a few actions.
We just ended up shooting a lot of the first act first.
But when I got after my mom passed and we started to kind of make in the movie.
I just thought I would be really helpful.
I shot all the big scenes.
And I mean, here's the summer.
Let's shoot all the big scenes.
Let's shoot the skydiving sequence and all the martial arts fighting at the end.
So I did all the big fighting first.
So then it thought maybe it would feel easier to finish it with dialogue.
Didn't always feel better easier because of that.
But once we went with the route of shooting with three different actors as the lead, we shot the action stuff first.
So if you're watching the movie, it's fun sometimes to think about what's the first scene.
Greg Sister was the very first thing we shot on the movie.
He's seen as the young pilot.
I found a pirate ship about a 90 minute drive from water while we went to shot on Greg was in town.
I said, "My mom knows Greg."
Oh, go shoot what your friend Greg Sistero.
Yeah, so that's that.
Yeah, it was really fun. It felt like the movie kept coming alive.
Every change that happened. Everything that happened.
It felt like I was starting on a new movie.
I felt so exciting.
Where am I last film? I hated being unset.
I was trying to get through the days.
I wasn't trying to make a good film.
This time I felt like we were making trying to make the best film.
Because with no budget, keeping in mind there's no budget movie.
There was no producer involvement. There was no investors in the moment.
I didn't get any grants to make this movie.
We took a camera. I would friends. I made the best movie.
And Jesus was a fun.
It was like a roller coaster ride.
You never hear that.
You never hear stories about production being fun.
A lot of people say, "Oh, my favorite thing is editing."
And you hear expressions like, "Oh, I'm going to fix it in post."
This wasn't that kind of movie.
We had more fun on sat than we did any in any other procedure of making the movie.
I really think that comes through.
It comes through that.
It is a bunch of friends making a movie.
So that's why I figured that there was an amicul departure of Sam just because it just feels like such a kind of like Andy Hardy.
Let's go put on a show type of thing.
I really appreciate you saying that.
First, Sam was amicul. He was great.
And he was championed Jad London.
And Matt, me, well, he looked up to Jad London.
He was the only real drag queen in the movie.
And I know Sam looked.
I told Sam that we got Jad London for the movies.
You got Jad London. He was so excited.
But yeah, he said something else there was going to talk about it.
Oh, when you said about it, it seems like it was a bunch of friends.
It seemed like it was when you watched the movie, you got the sensor having a good time filming it.
That's my favorite thing about Jad Kichan movies.
But those early movies and the 80s into the early 90s,
you can tell they were on set making things up as they went along.
It comes across through the lens.
And that's something you don't learn in film studies.
That's something you don't get better at.
When that happens, magical.
When an audience recognizes that, it's magical as a viewer.
I love noticing that in the movie.
Sometimes it's better than anything that Lube and Wale could come up with.
So how did COVID end up affecting you?
Did you have to shut down or were you shooting just outdoors things?
How did that go for you?
Yeah, when COVID started, it was really serious.
And in Ottawa, we hit my business shut down. Everything like we've closed.
No one was walking the sidewalks.
Months were to go by, we were tackling anything.
And when I thought I could start something,
we would a few days before getting the set and someone will tell me,
"Oh, I was with someone who got COVID or only.
I can't make it after all.
I used to be able to drive and pick up people to bring them to set.
If we were shooting with five people on set, five cars had to go to set because we couldn't all be in the same car.
So yeah, we shot mostly when COVID was serious.
We shot mostly just in the spring and summer outside.
When we when society got better working in bubbles and we got to felt a little safer working in bubbles,
I was able to shoot in the winter at the May fair because the May fair was closed.
It's a cinema, a single screen of theater that I own here in Ottawa,
to big theater.
It's in the movie.
So that was that became our studio.
I could shoot in the May fair.
A lot of stuff were shot at the May.
All the hospital scenes when you see crunch getting his bandages taken off.
That's all shot at the May fair.
We did a lot of looping and dialogue and sound effects and stuff at the May fair.
The May fair, we did a lot of green screen work at the May fair.
Cutting heads off and stuff.
So the May fair became the working in the movie, crunch,
jaws and fast buck are worried that the May fair is never going to open again.
In real life, I was afraid the May fair was closed.
I was living the fast, I was a became fast buck.
I thought I was going to not have a business.
And if I closed the May fair, what was the end of the movie going to be?
The happy ending of the movie is the May fair opens and that's the happy ending.
That cinema goes on.
If I lost that business, I'd have to come up with a new ending that had nothing to do with celebration of life getting back to normal.
One of those signs of life getting back to normal is being the joyous selves.
Collectively in a room like a cinema.
So symbolic in so many ways.
I'm so lucky to do it that May fair still exists in for me when we finished the end of the movie.
And it allowed us to make the movie.
When the movie, you know, the movie, they live in the May fair and they watch movies.
They learn martial arts from watching movies.
And that was what happened over COVID.
We were, I was living in the May fair and I'd have screenings for the casting crew.
All the new movies and was our, it was our Lucasfilm Ranch.
[Laughter]
We're right there in the middle of Ottawa. I love it.
Or American Zoey Troper.
Yeah, I was so happy to see Philip Racka show up again.
Just as soon as he came on screen, it was just like, yes.
Yeah, it's exciting.
I know it's exciting.
I'm happy using the movie too.
It's funny.
We're showing in London in a few weeks.
Right after I'm going to London for the Star Wars celebration for four days.
And my wife said, oh, you should try to show your movie in London while you're there.
And we've got a screening right after the Star Wars celebration.
Wow.
I get to invite everyone, my hero, some Star Wars to come see my movie.
But it's funny when we go to different cities.
People often say, it's still going to come because they wanted to meet Harry Nuckles.
They want to meet Jesus Christ vampire.
It's funny, it's a movie.
It's nice. He plays the mentor.
The movie is about no one knows martial arts.
They watch these kung fu movies.
They know martial arts throughout the movie. They're not Jackie Chan.
They're not Bruce Lee. They're, bunch of people pretending to know martial arts.
My entire filmography is me pretending to be a filmmaker.
Pretending to know what we're doing.
And Bill playing that role as fast-buck if think is fitting.
And it might be his last role. He's talking about never making a movie again.
He's, he feels like, I think that's my last one.
I keep saying it. Even though we're another movie,
you might not see him in front of the camera anymore.
But sometimes in the middle of the night, if I get a shot in him,
you'll agree to do a role.
And if memory serves, there's a family connection to with the character of sugar tits.
Sugar tits? My dog. That's my dog.
Yes.
My dog's name is Soka and real life. There's a Soka there.
Yeah, so sugar tits is my dog.
And it's funny.
I wife wouldn't be in the movie because she thought the movie was too crazy.
My daughter's in it. My son's in it. And my dogs in it.
Yeah. And it's funny. She's on 90.
B. My dog is listening to 90.
B. Now, any actors want to be actors.
I know her dying to get on 90.
My dog's listening there.
Sugar tits.
I think it's funny.
The wind did you finally put together the whole thing when was your premier?
Just a few months ago.
January 27.
Wow.
Yeah.
It became a two day.
That one point.
It was going to be a 2020 movie.
And then the COVID happened.
It became a.
We tried to maybe 2021.
That I felt 22 to 22 was realistic.
And then it got to the point where it's.
We've never been a rush to finish this movie because of the way everything went.
Let's not be in a rush to finish it now.
Let's do the post production right and have the right music.
I love the music in this movie.
I'm going to be a little bit more.
It's almost the way they used to be.
Festival is continuing to operate during pandemic, but they went mostly all virtual.
They learned a different way of being a festival.
Now that we're out of the pandemic, are you feel like we're out of the pandemic?
Yes, I know I just caught COVID again the other day.
Wow.
I hope you feel better.
I still have a lot of friends who are in the mask everywhere.
I know the guy who write Jesus Christ of App Hunter hasn't seen a movie in the theater since 2019.
He's ill afraid to go out.
But that being said, there it feels more normal than it's had a long time.
I think this summer will definitely feel I'm feeling in the few weeks I'm going to
get on a plane with no mask.
And I'm going to start a cyber celebration with no mask last time I heard one more mask.
So why did I bring all this up?
What was your question?
We were talking about how it's a different world now with film festivals.
So film festivals they went virtual.
And now that we're almost back to normal, a lot of them were still virtual.
And they haven't had a lot of them that haven't gone back to having people all together to watch film.
So I feel like with this film, now that it's out, I'm relying, it's weird when I made Jesus Christ of App Hunter and Harry
and Nucleus, I really relied on film festivals to get the film out there.
But now that I own a movie theater, I go on a movie theater with some partners.
But I program movies, I've gotten to know some cinema owners or at least I know how to approach other cinema as about showing a movie.
So I've been relying on looking movie outright doing straight bookings.
I'm showing in five different cities in Ontario.
We're doing a screening in Brooklyn, New York, London, England, LA.
We are doing film festivals.
Most of the big screenings are straight bookings of the film, which is feel like her
She's going to live a small wall in the movie.
I'm going to film festival on Saturday in North Bay, Ontario.
We won four film festival awards, and every time you win or every time you get, you know film freeway?
Yes.
The way you submit to film festivals to film three way.
And it's a social media hub for filmmakers submitting their movies.
So if you get into a film festival, if you're lucky enough to win in a film festival, they say you should
keep this to celebrate. So I just press a button tweet.
And every time I tweet an excellence, I hear from other film festivals.
Oh my god, congratulations. We want to show your film. Here's a discount code.
So film freeway is in a great in terms of really getting it out there.
I'm getting a lot of, I haven't made a movie in 14 years.
And my last two films weren't film festival friendly movies.
So a lot of, a lot of change.
I'm learning the sort of social dynamic about film festivals.
And I'm getting it now too. You just upload your movie and send them a link and boom you submitted.
It's like there's no more printing forms filling it all out.
Faxing it and sending it getting your film entrance into the VHS.
It's so easy. It costs still cost money.
It's easier to submit my movie to a film festival than time I choose.
I'm really glad to hear that you're showing this in theaters rather than just all virtual.
Because I think the experience of seeing this movie with an audience is so crucial because you get the feed off of that energy and enjoy how other people are enjoying it.
And mentally, yeah, I've seen the film eight times with a theater audience.
And it's yeah, you can sit there and hear people laugh the way they laugh. Oh, 100%.
And not only that I learned being around filmmakers like Chrisman Glover.
I don't know if you're Chrisman Glover's movies is a director.
He's mostly known for his acting, but he's directed to your three movies that he's never transferred to home video.
They shot them 35 millimeter and you can't see them unless you see them in a theater with him.
And I thought that was really neat.
You got here's this movie. You can only see the theater. You can't down.
But as so many people who don't want to come see movies at the May Fair are they'll just wait for it to come on home video or streaming services, which is mostly now these days a week later.
Looking movies at the May Fair that are hoping that I'll be on the stream platform in a week, which is sad.
Tree of the industry dies, they're going to look back to now and how things operate.
But I'm not sent anyone an MP4 or a blue ray or DVD. I think right now we've been out for three months and there's no way.
I don't think for anyone to bootleg this movie. I've not made it happen because I'm a great sister.
I think it was always another one. Just watch how careful they are with who they show the movies to.
So the key people getting people to come to see movie in the theater. Like the room is still the best way to see that movie in the theater.
And I don't think a lot of people look to Tommy was as an inspiration, but I know Tommy was on. I look to him for as an inspiration.
You got to look at these people sometimes as a showman rather than an artist like Lloyd Kaufman is the best showman I know.
He's not moving well. All Thomas Anderson or anything like that. But he knows how to market his movie.
If you took away the marketing machine from the best filmmakers in America right now, World Wide Right now, they wouldn't know how to release their movies as well as Lloyd Kaufman does.
So my hats off to him and always will be because he showed me. I read about how her shagrown this was a showman. I read about that and Roger Korma.
But I experienced it Lloyd at the Cannesville Festival a few times and it's really something. It's really inspiring.
It's got all these naked girls running around throwing up vomit and blood guts, but it's inspiring.
Just look, no one's paying attention to Jean-Clobe Van Damon. Isn't it moving anymore?
They're all paying attention to the light confidence showman ship.
Really cool.
So I know you've got some screenings and festivals. You're going over to the Star Wars celebration made the fourth week with you.
What else is going on for you? Of course you've always got the mate for his business that you run.
But are you now already starting to think about that next thing that's going to set that fire for you?
Because it sounds like you had such a great time.
I know. Like I said, I wish I was still filming it. We have another movie idea at mine.
The Dictos movie. I'm moving about at private detective who has 10 Dicts or Toes who's in there to the drag dragon.
And everyone's expecting me to make that movie. We got such a good idea for the movie.
So many good characters and it feels like another answer to the drag dragon, which I'd love to make.
But the industry is so different now too, right?
It's like, I was so inspired to make Jesus Christ vampire and Harry Knuckles because of the way film festivals received it.
And I was going to show it in cinemas with a film festival or not.
With so exciting, but no one wants to leave their house anymore.
So people are so used to now waking up. Oh, there's a new episode of the Mandalorian.
They don't have to get it in bed. This wake up turned on TV and there's Star Wars.
A Star Wars movie, which seemingly seems free on your TV and people are so used to.
All that was on prime and Netflix, Disney, plus Paramount, plus there's an AMGM plus apparently.
But for me, it's about the cinematic experience. It's about going to a movie theater.
She's my partner at the May Fair Theatre won't go see a movie in the theater.
He asked me for a screener on the movie.
It's like, oh man, hard times.
So that part of my inspiration making a movie might be gone a little bit.
But I do really want to make this film and might start shooting in next year.
I think I'm really busy getting this film out to film festivals.
I'm programming at the May Fair and I'm pushing this movie as far as I can.
I'm going to go to London. I think after June after June, we might get a national.
We might be able to release the film in every major.
It looks like Santa Paxioteva, I'm just going to release the movie first across the country in June.
After that, maybe I can sell that a little bit and concentrate on this script.
And have a script ready by the winter and start shooting in the spring or summer at the new, the Dictos movie.
I really like that to happen. It's a big, big, big.
I have one point I thought I would maybe shooting again on 16 millimeter.
But we had such a fun time with the digital effects on this film.
I don't know. I'm excited about this film.
Let's hope that's how it stands for about it.
There's some things about this industry.
There's a little bit of a put down.
Because I'm running a movie theater and watching people I know not come see movies.
I know producers who live across the street who haven't seen a movie in the theater in a decade.
It's sad. Everyone's so useless staying in home.
And I may see Netflix movie nominated for Best Picture of the Academy Awards.
I watched the Oscars. I like watching the Oscars.
But every time I'll quite on the Western fun, one or Panokeo, one, I was like, "Buck off. I love Game of the Toro."
And I'm not trying to put the filmmakers down, but they make a deal with the devil.
And that loser is the audience.
The Gehrman Toro just announced he's doing Frankenstein for Netflix.
That's really fucking exciting if I get to see it in a movie theater.
Sitting at home watching it at home just like watching an episode of Signed Fell.
It's not really care. It's just there.
I'm excited to go see John Wick tomorrow night.
In the theater where the crowd, I'm excited to go see Jackie Chan's new movie.
That's opening at the May Fair in April.
Because I'm seeing it in the theater.
It's unbelievable.
I'm lucky enough to bring my son and we'll sit there and and
gush over these big screen experiences.
It's hard to be excited for the new Martin Scorsese.
Martin Scorsese is making movies for Netflix.
It's ideal with Netflix.
I book movies with them. It makes me feel disgusting inside.
It's knowing that they're just using me to show their movies that they can get nominated.
They want to show that prove the Steven Spielberg whoever's pissed off that they're getting nominated.
We showed the actor for a week.
We'd be care about it if anyone came.
We showed it for a week.
They do all these awful things.
I don't know. I don't want to be negative.
We need to come. I hope we come out of the other end of this.
There's a few films out there though that are inspired.
There's a few films out there that are still not available on streaming.
Films like living.
Living and what's there's certainly the film is came out like that.
I was so sad.
Living is one of our big films of the year.
There's three, I can't even think of the other two right now.
But I love seeing a movie out there doing well at our cinema.
That's mostly just because it's not streaming right now.
We've been talking gangbusters living gangbusters for us.
Means a lot.
And I can say, "Why is it well because it's not streaming anywhere?"
Fuck you Netflix. I'm sorry.
So if people are listening to this and they're just chimping at the bit.
Where can I see entered the drag drag and where's the best place so they can actually see if it's going to be at a film festival or a screening near them?
I'm sad. I used to have a website.
I used to have www.dissafilmerx.com.
You can follow me. I'm on Facebook.
Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Leader Marm, follow me there.
And you might find my watch is talking to me.
Follow me there.
And you know what? I'd love to hear from people.
If you live in a city and you don't see a show screening, let me know what theatre is near you.
And I'll go, "Pimp my movie at your theatre."
That's what's happening a lot lately. We promoted the fact that we're going to be in London.
And someone in Scotland said, "Hey, you should show here."
So I'm going to reach out to the Scotland cinema owners.
And that's a lot of fun. That's all these little dots connecting.
I imagine by the end of the summer or fall, it'll be streaming somewhere.
But right now, I hope your listeners who are interested at all get to see it theatrical.
Yeah.
I hope you're saying to you, "Come follow me on Twitter and Facebook as attractive enough."
I can't tell that it is because no one's so many people I know are invoiting social media.
Thank you so much. It is always so great talking with you. I really appreciate this.
And I hope your listeners don't judge me based on the book above the Fetcher and Terran.
I know so many people hate it. But I'm got kids, don't judge me.
And I'm not interested in the John Waters. It's my hero. I'm a rustmire. I'm a hero.
And if you love those guys, I think you might look into the drag drag in too.
It's more like that than what's behind me.
But anyway, I do love what's behind me too.
Thanks for having me because I'm really fun talking to you.
Thank you. I always greet talking with you, sir. I'm a good to catch up with you.
I hope to catch up again with you soon.
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