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Hi.
Welcome to their terrifying and tipsy.
So I'll start.
Okay.
My name is Courtney.
I love long walks on the beach.
White wine and I absolutely love scary movies.
And I'm Stephanie.
I also love long walks on the beach.
I love white wine.
But I absolutely hate scary movies.
So Stephanie, can I ask you a question?
Please, why in the hell would you want to watch scary movies and do a podcast on scary movies
when you hate them?
Oh, that's easy because you forced me.
That's true.
But you know what?
There's wine.
Yeah, so I'm basically only here for the wine.
That's a lot of wine.
We're going to need it.
Well, since we have very different feelings about scary movies, we decided to share our
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[Music]
Hi, Caitlyn.
Hi, Cassie.
I told Caitlyn to start.
And then as soon as she opened her mouth, I said it first.
If that's even your real name, I was just trying to pull a prank on you.
Well, I hated it.
The look on your face was worth it.
It was pretty funny.
Well, hi creepy people.
Oh, hi.
Hello.
This is PNW Haunts and Homicides.
It is.
And we are doing another CPC.
What's that stand for?
Because we like, you know, what are those things?
Acronyms?
We like acronyms around here.
What CPC stand for?
Creepy people
Chronicles?
Oh, yeah.
That's where you guys write us.
Some creepy stories about paranormal shit or murder or witchy shit or any kind of crime.
Any kind of murder.
A witchy murder.
A ghost murder.
A ghost crime.
Murder ghost.
Anything.
All of it.
You write us and you tell us about it.
And then we read it back to you.
[Laughter]
That's how that works.
Yeah.
Well, do you want to start us off?
All right.
So our first listener story, creepy chronicle is from Brandy.
Hi, Brandy.
Hello.
That's just how I greet people.
Sorry, Brandy.
Don't be afraid.
She says, "Hey, creepy ladies.
Gals.
Friends."
Okay.
So she's on my level today.
Brandy is also wrong for her to be.
She says, "Ugh, I hate introduction, so let me just dive right in."
Sounds perfect.
Yes.
Definitely, friends.
Yeah.
Creepy friends.
We are CPC bath stays.
I have two stories I can share.
The first is of a horrific murderer who terrorized Christmas in 1987.
Why would you terrorize Christmas?
I just, that's really rude.
Please don't.
Like Santa sees you when you're sleeping.
He knows when you're murdering.
He sure does.
Yeah.
Of course, I can't give you first-hand experience with this tale, as I was only one, and only worried
about terrorizing my own family in the middle of the night.
That's a good way to put it.
That's okay.
We don't hold it against you.
I'm glad you don't have first-hand experience.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Cassie, coming in clutch with the thing you should say.
This well-known always gets the locals to gossiping killer was Ronald Gene Simmons.
God damn it.
I don't like him.
You don't.
I really don't.
Yeah.
It's okay.
We'll go into it probably for another day.
It's in Gene Simmons like a musician.
Yeah.
He's from Kiss.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
He's the guy.
Yeah.
Quit ruining Kiss for me.
Okay.
Listen.
You're over there worried about Kiss.
And I'm like, you guys, but Christmas.
They go hand in hand.
Kiss is Christmas.
Yeah.
Missile Toe.
Every Kiss begins with Kay.
Exactly.
So if you think about it, they're connected.
Simmons terrorized our small town of 1500 over the span of seven days.
He started his murderous acts at home where he shot his son and daughter-in-law before
strangling his wife and later that day strangling four daughters and another son.
Oh my God.
Sweet baby Jesus in the manger.
I didn't read this.
I yikes.
I saw murder and I was like, “Caitlyn can read it."
Great.
Thank you.
That is awful.
That is not a lot of people in that town.
No.
So it's like everybody knows everybody.
So that's like huge.
I mean, okay.
So think about this.
This is one, two, three, seven, eight people.
That's not an insignificant portion of their population.
Like only in a small town.
Could you actually accomplish something like that?
Simons then waited with their corpses.
Still in the house.
Talk about twisted, Brandy says.
And I'm inclined to agree.
Oh my God.
No, this is so terrible.
He shot his son and daughter-in-law then drowned the small child.
Why wouldn't he just, but drowning a child?
Okay.
Like why?
Like that's something we just hear in child cases far too frequently.
And there's something so specifically horrifying about it because they're so vulnerable.
I know.
Okay.
Well, like you shot everyone else, right?
Right.
So it's like you have to inflict like this maximum fear in the person who is least
positioned to protect themselves.
I guess he did do the strangling to the other ones.
That is nice.
Yeah.
Perfect.
Well, and it is interesting too because you don't see very often where a serial will change
their ammo like that.
It's like he's just trying out different things.
Right.
No, really.
Okay.
Well, happy anniversary to me.
After the murders, Simmons went for a drink in a local bar, then returned to the house,
and apparently oblivious to the corpses lined up around him, spent the rest of the evening
and the following day drinking beer and watching television.
I don't think he was oblivious.
However, I do think he clearly must not be afraid of ghosts because I would already be
afraid those people would be haunting the shit out of him.
That's a lot of people.
That's entirely too many.
On the morning of Monday, December 28th, Simmons drove into Russellville and at a local
law office, shot dead the receptionist, a young woman named Kathy Kendrick, with whom he had
been infatuated and who had rejected him.
I don't know, man, like maybe that had something to do with the fact that you had a wife.
So gross.
That is disgusting.
He next went to an oil company office where he shot dead a man named JD Chaffin and wounded
the owner, Rusty Taylor, and then drove onto a convenience store where he had previously
worked, shooting and wounding two more people.
Wow.
Like, I thought it was a lot in the beginning and then he just keeps going and going and going.
Yeah.
I think at this point, I'm remembering that he really wouldn't technically be considered
a serial killer.
He would be classified as a spree killer, which is kind of, now there's so many classifications
just because of how differently these types of crimes can be executed, whereas like a mass
shooting.
Yeah.
I mean, totally different kinds of crimes and they're all horrific, but I'm just like, ugh.
The spree killer really throws me for a loop, though.
Yeah.
And I just feel like that's really, and I mean, obviously this person has lost control
just totally.
It's so scary.
Afterwards, he went to the office of the Woodline Motor Freight Company where he shot
and wounded a woman ending his killing spree.
Which, how did he know this person?
Why is he, ugh.
Yeah.
Does he like know all of these people?
I don't get it.
The men simply sat in the office and chatted to one of the secretaries whilst waiting for
the police.
What?
So, can you imagine?
Ugh.
No.
When they arrived, he handed over his gun and surrendered without any resistance.
To say that there haven't been many tales stretched from this incident would be a bold
facelie.
Uh, I mean, yeah.
You could see that coming.
Small town.
Yeah.
Yes, the teens of the 90s often dared one another to touch crazy Simmons land.
I almost said Simpsons.
I don't know why.
No, not the don't bring the Simpsons into this.
I know.
I'm so sorry.
Well, others thought it was a good idea to do a seance.
No.
You guys.
I do it.
Oh my god.
Never.
Hashtag never Bundy and hashtag never a Simmons.
That would be kind of a really dark place to do one that's icky.
You are inviting some really dark stuff to come and hang out with you, I think.
I would like to say I was not one of the one of these crazy teens, but again, I would be
lying.
Oh, Brandy.
Brandy.
Oh my goodness.
Oh.
Oh god.
Every person has that story of like just like the dumb stuff you did as a kid.
Did anything ever happen?
I guess she might have told us if it didn't.
Okay.
I guess we'll find out.
Maybe.
Here's a nice little link to learn all about the mess that was Ronald Gene Simmons.
I'm clicking it.
She's clicking on it.
Oh my god.
What?
He kind of looks like if Krampus and Santa had an ugly baby.
What?
Look.
No.
It's coming closer.
No.
That's him.
Bad Santa.
A very bad Santa indeed.
Eek.
My next creepy story would be about the Dover Lights.
Oh.
I don't know if I know what that is.
I don't exactly know any specifics, but I've heard of them.
Okay.
This urban legend has been around my area for decades.
The mysterious lights that haunt the valley.
Interesting.
How do...
Okay.
Well, I'm just going to read it because I don't know.
And we're going to find out.
Probably aliens.
I grew up obsessed with this legend and even wrote a fictional novel about it deep in
Deep in the hollow.
Holy shit you guys.
We're in the presence of...
Yet again, another author.
Oh man, we're going to have to read that.
I know.
Yesterday.
Woo!
There are many tales about what these lights are.
But the most famous is the light of the conquistadors.
Ooh.
What is that?
Many say they are haunting the valley in search of their gold.
I mean, it's like so conquistadors.
Yeah.
I mean, if you shine a light and yell you have their gold, they'll flash across the mountain
to come for you.
I mean, I think it goes without saying, but I really don't want anyone to do this.
I think we should take our fake gold pots out there.
Or leprechaun pots.
Oh no.
They kind of remind me of leprechauns.
Yeah.
Do you think they're kind of the same type of thing?
I...
I'm tempted to think no.
Brandy says, "I've seen these lights a few times myself, and no, I wasn't drinking," which
is often the first thing asked when skeptics hear these tales.
Okay, well, listen.
I've had my fair share of Rosé all day, and I've never seen mysterious flashing lights.
So people that question you about whether you were drinking or not, doesn't...
Drinking doesn't make you see flashing lights.
Just FYI.
If you do, you should probably see someone.
Yeah, maybe go to a doctor.
Seek medical attention.
They are rather fascinating lights, and I'm proud to say that I've not only seen them,
but I've also sat with scientists who were there trying to figure out what they were.
Not sure that they ever did.
Wow.
Brandy, you're like fancy as fuck.
That is really cool.
She's basically a doctor.
She writes books and chills out with scientists, so...
Brandy, can we come with you to see the lights?
We'll give you an honorary degree, a doctorate from creepy people chronicles you.
Here's a link to one of the theories known as the Dover Lights.
Thanks for all the fun you two have and the stories you share.
You sure make my long commute more bearable.
Oh.
Are you sure?
Yeah.
Yeah, be careful, you know.
Boop.
Stay safe, but always creepy.
Brandy.
PS, I suck at closings as well.
You don't suck at anything.
Brandy, you don't ever have to apologize.
You're a doctor.
Yeah, and an author.
You graduated from creepy people chronicles you.
So...
I think you're Dr. Brandy.
Dr. Brandy.
Yeah.
So this one is a little bit different.
We read the story from Brandy and then we're going to play you two separate interviews,
one from Kirsten Weiss, the author of the Tea and Tarot series.
I'm looking at Caitlyn because I wasn't there.
I know.
Cassie was dreadfully ill and she's...
And pissed.
Yeah.
That was really upset.
Yeah.
But I know, I know because when you started editing, you texted me and you were like, holy
shit.
This is so good.
I'm so mad.
I missed it.
We have to do it again.
Yeah.
So I wanted to know if she had any paranormal experiences and she did.
So we will be adding that to this episode.
And then we also recently did a Tarot Read for one of our new Patreon members and she had
some spooky stories as well that we're going to add.
Yes.
And some hot tips on some tasty booze.
Oh yeah.
That may or may not be featured in the upcoming Prohibition Crimes.
Oh yeah.
Patreon live.
Yes.
And she got a whole Tarot reading that we're probably going to post on Patreon.
Yeah.
I think so.
Yeah.
So we're not doing separate Tarot readings for their two stories.
They already had their own Tarot readings that were separate from that.
So we just decided to include those today because they're fun.
And we want you guys to hear it.
Yeah.
I think particularly with Kirsten's interview, we already kind of let that cat out of the
bag so that we could talk about her book before it came out.
Obviously, we wanted to help her promote, if we could.
And I felt like it was going to run really long if we included all of her stories.
So we kind of broke it off.
And I thought that'd be kind of fun.
A fun little thing to kind of switch it up a little bit with the creepy people.
Chronicles.
Yeah.
Ooh, I wonder if we could have people send in like if they want to do a voice thing telling
their story.
I mean, they totally could.
You can if you want.
Yeah.
We'll throw it in here.
If you don't want to hear our voices read it.
Yeah.
Which some days I really get that.
Right.
I know.
Tarot?
Tarot.
Okay.
I'm shuffling.
Shufflay.
Trumendus.
Okay.
We're pulling a card for Brandy's story.
Brandy.
About the kiss.
Christmas murders.
And I mean, that was the bulk of the story.
She had the Dover lights.
But I feel like.
Oh.
What do we get?
We got the five of swords in reverse.
Oh, yeah.
Which is I could have told you what it was.
It's a little owl.
And we're going to look in the book and see what kind of owl.
Oh, I turned right to it.
Oh.
I mean, there was a couple of flips in there.
It's a northern spotted owl.
She pretty.
In a humble flying squirrel.
Oh.
Where?
She has a squirrel in his mouth.
No.
That's kind of disturbing.
Unhand that squirrel.
I mean, I know it's nature, but.
Oh.
When we're talking about murder here.
Yeah.
Well then.
All right.
So five of swords, our keywords are change, adjustment, loss, destruction, conflict,
indecision and sadness.
Wow.
I have different ones here.
They're kind of along the same lines, but this one says aggression, conflict, hostility,
ambition, defeat, and or winning at any cost.
Eek, which I'm like ambition and aggression are kind of, sounds a lot like this gene
Simmons guy.
Yeah.
The number five signifies change and this card shows a time of adjustment after a conflict
of some kind.
Sometimes the fight stems from ideological or spiritual differences.
The writer, weight Smith, Aquarian and some other decks show a soldier on the battlefield
at the end of a fight.
The card asks, what have you won or lost?
Yikes.
Wow.
That is kind of like, because he left this trail of bodies behind him, I feel like.
On the battlefield.
Eek.
I don't like that.
No.
Okay.
And I did draw this in the reverse.
Yes.
Reverse the five suggests pretty much the same thing as it does upright.
When the card appears reversed in a reading, however, you may feel a great sense of remorse,
regret or unhappiness.
Sometimes it shows you making repairs or reparations after a conflict, trying to set things
right and learning from your suffering.
Hmm.
Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that probably this poor community has taken
away some really hard lessons from this.
Yeah.
That whole situation.
Wow.
I can't.
I kind of want to hear more about what happened after I can help.
Yeah.
I'm waiting on it.
I'm going to read you the upright though since it leans into that they're very much the
same.
Okay.
The five of swords symbolizes the devastation of war and recommends using diplomacy to resolve
problems.
After a battle, you realize fighting isn't the best way to settle disputes.
The cost of winning may not be worth the losses you've endured.
Yeah, like maybe don't kill a girl because she doesn't like you.
I mean, yeah, definitely, definitely that.
Wow.
That is just creepy and I'm just going to read from this in a reading about love.
This card says you won't get what you want by arguing.
Partful words can't be taken back.
Try to resolve problems amicably, honestly and fairly.
You may have to make some changes in order to improve a situation.
Try to resolve differences without drawing swords or guns or hands.
Oh my goodness.
Wow.
Yeah, I'm not even going to read the three interpretation parts because I just, I feel
like we've got exactly what we need out of this card for that case and you guys' violence
is not the answer.
Never.
I kind of want to read this.
It sounds kind of cool.
I don't know if it relates, but I kind of want to read it.
Do it.
It sounds cute.
So from our little PNW tarot book, it says, a quick series of flaps and then silence, a
shadow momentarily eclipsing a silver, yeah, eclipsing a sliver of moonlight, the intangible
feeling of a sharp eyed stare from above.
The squirrel never stood a chance, really.
Eek.
I'm sorry, I got like the chills reading this and I got my eye fixed so I have no excuse anymore.
Oh my God.
She was perched upon a springy limb, plotting the fastest route home to her leaf filled nest.
Oh my gosh.
She readied her jump crouching down and tensing her muscles.
This is like giving me the hibi gb's this whole thing.
Instead of launching forward, she lifted up, carried aloft by the razor talons under her
silent wings.
There was no pain, only shock.
No, oh my God.
No hope of fighting back, only total defeat.
The battle was over before she even knew what was happening.
Wow.
For the owl, it was a single meal.
Sustonance for an evening, unremarkable and soon forgotten.
Oh, yikes.
Okay.
Well, I'm shaking.
I'm not gonna.
Yeah, so that's crazy.
It was all about like this owl attacking this little innocent squirrel basically and that's
kind of what it was meant for.
Yeah.
Ooh.
Well, we pulled a good card.
What do you guys think?
Brandy, what do you think?
You can let us know what you think.
Yeah.
Oh my goodness.
Because maybe she sees more similarities like that we don't know about.
Yeah.
So let us know.
Oh my goodness.
I'm honestly still not sure what to make of it.
So it was about five years ago, there was a total solar eclipse going over Oregon.
And so my sister and I drove up to Oregon and met some friends to see the eclipse.
And when we drove back, we decided to go along to the Oregon and California coast because
it's gorgeous spectacular.
Yeah.
Well, so we're all the other Californians who've gone up for the eclipse.
So the road was just packed and it was really a grind getting home.
And when we finally got to the shopping point, we'll take whatever hotels available, which
ended up being kind of tired old hotel on the coast.
And when we watched the room, I immediately got this kind of feeling because it was kind
of messy.
And I was just thinking, well, I mean, it was clean, but it was old and it was messy.
And so I thought, okay, that's why I'm getting that feeling, not that it's haunted or anything.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
Of course.
So that's not my right inch like that.
Anyways, so we had to get up really early the next morning and my sister hates getting
up really early.
So I was kind of dreading that experience.
And I woke up and the room was really dark and the layout was, there was two queen beds
and off.
I was farthest from the door.
And then beyond my bed, there was a little like area with a sink and then there was the
area with the toilet, which was enclosed with the door.
And so I was lying in bed wondering what time it was and my phone was charging way on the
other side of the room.
So I do, if I get up and look at the phone, then I'm going to be really awake and if it's
4 a.m., I'm never going to get back to sleep again.
So maybe I should just ignore it and wait for the stupid thoughts to go in your head when
it's 6 a.m. and dark and your mind isn't really thinking that well.
So I'm thinking, thinking, thinking.
And the room is dark enough.
It was very, it was very dark.
I could see the shapes of things, but I couldn't see any definition.
So nothing was three-dimensional.
I could see the rectangle of the television on a bigger rectangle of the media stand, but
I get no dimensionality.
Okay.
So I see the silhouette of my sister get up from bed, her bed, and cross in front of my
bed and go towards the bathroom.
And I'm thinking, oh, fantastic.
Amazingly, she's awake.
When she comes out of the bathroom, I can ask her to check my clock and see what time it
is.
So I'm lying there and I'm waiting and I'm waiting.
I think, gosh, I realize she's doing really quiet.
I haven't heard any water running.
I haven't heard toilet flush.
I didn't hear the door close.
This fish is.
She's, well, she's like, gosh, she's so, she really is.
She's super polite.
So she's always really conscientious and trying to not bother people.
Oh my god, she's just amazing.
And then in the bed next to mine, I hear her start to snore.
No.
Yes.
And I was just like paralyzed and fear at that point.
And I didn't think it was a person.
I thought it was a ghost because that's where my mind went.
Yeah.
And so I was just lying in bed with my eyes as big.
And then about five minutes later, my alarm did go off and we were out of that hotel
so fast.
And I was like, I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to tell you about 20 miles down the road.
What I'd seen.
Oh my god.
She was super mad.
She's like, there could have been a man in the room and you didn't wake me up.
I was like, it wasn't a man.
It was a ghost.
That's not a man.
Well, the, well, the identity of this story is that last autumn, the same sister and I
are at another hotel in Florida.
Same sort of setup.
We're in a, a suite.
Two queen beds.
And then, but I'm close to the door and she's close to the bathroom area.
So the setup is the bedroom.
You go through a really short haul with a bathroom off to the side and then beyond that, there's
a little sort of kitchenette living area and then the balcony.
So I'm lying in bed.
Once again, I woke it up early wondering what time it is.
And I see her get up from the bed and silently leave the room.
And I was like, okay, this time I'm getting my butt out of bed to see what's going on.
So I jump out of bed and I'm looking, I'm trying to look at the bed.
She was in.
And I'm like, pal, I cover this and I know enough, I'm not going to, I'm not going to poke
it to see if she's there because I'm just not going to do it.
Yeah.
No, I didn't.
So I looked, bathroom's empty.
I looked at the other room, which was that big and it was empty.
So I think a friend of mine, when I told her the story after the eclipse, she said, she's
probably astral projecting.
Oh my goodness.
No.
It was a ghost because the whole room had that total if, you know, vibe had to have been
a ghost.
But then after what happened in Florida, I'm thinking maybe she was astral projecting because
certain it sound like it.
Yeah, we couldn't have been in two haunted hotel rooms with ghosts that decided to close the
next time I sister.
That would just be too weird.
Yeah.
I feel like that's a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
I don't know.
Yeah, I think she was astral projecting.
Of course, she doesn't believe in any of that stuff.
So she finds the idea really irritating and she will not be listening to this podcast.
So I'll tell you anyways.
There you go.
We're in on the secret.
That's so funny.
She's the one doing it and she doesn't believe it.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know how else to explain it and I was definitely awake those times.
Right.
You were thinking, no, it's not me imagining it.
I'd like to be able to comfort you in that way, but not so much.
Yeah.
It wasn't a dream.
Yeah.
Now my phone is for battery.
Oh my gosh.
You're like, how can I just like not have anything remain charged?
I don't know.
My life was you being haunted.
I'm alright.
And I literally was like, I definitely am.
I've got some really good stories.
Oh snap.
Let's just say his name is Carl.
Carl?
Carl.
Oh, and Carl.
Carl.
That's no stop.
That's a tough life.
Don't call him.
My husband.
We were open in our bedroom and the door kept like opening and closing and you could see
the nod.
You know, you know about Carl.
And so sitting there, I'm like, oh, it's this Carl.
And you know, it's at me goes, who the hell is Carl?
Mike, it's just the ghost.
He's been, I've been sensitive since I was little.
He's been with me this whole time.
It's like my guardian angel ghost to mess with me.
And he goes, that's not funny.
And I'm like, no, I'm being serious because the door is just like, obviously it's not.
It's open, close, open, close.
I mean, we went on for like 15 minutes.
Wow.
Like this is really getting stupid.
I'm like, Carl, we knock it off.
This is getting really annoying.
And the door opened all the way and then just slammed.
And he hopped out of the chair.
He's like, nope, I'm the fuck out of here.
You ran out of the door.
Oh my god.
Kate, let me do the same thing.
Yeah.
My kids joke about Carl the time now too.
He's done a lot.
He's funny.
Oh, that's awesome.
I think.
He's a prankster.
And everybody on the farm where my family lives is always like, oh, Carl's been here today.
I love that.
Oh my god.
Meanwhile, I'm like, okay, well, it's been nice knowing you guys.
I have to leave the country and change my name.
Oh, that's fun.
Goodbye forever.
Oh my god.
She's very skeptical about it.
But the other day she actually left.
She writes a Harley.
She jumped on her Harley and left because it was that bad.
We were talking about how Carl's been messing with us because I went in the bathroom and the
sink was on like full blast.
I showed it off when that guy was on full blast again.
And then my brother who lives at the farm was like, hey, have you been here today?
I'm like, no, he's like, well, I came in like four times and turned off all the lights
and lights to be back on when I came in.
I'm like, it's just Carl.
It looks to me and she goes, you're so stupid.
And then off the button.
I mean, the TV remote sitting like right in front of us.
We can all stay at it.
The TV turns on and turns up all the way.
And I was like, Carl, knock it off and the TV turns off.
And she gets up.
She's like, I'm not doing this today.
Goodbye.
Oh my god.
That's so funny.
She sounds like she's doing that.
That's so, just gets on her Harley and drives away.
All right.
Well, apparently I need to Harley now.
Yeah.
Oh, and there's a haunted house too.
That makes sense.
Oh, of course there is.
Oh, it's so fun.
It's in the middle of like Yamhill.
It's middle of nowhere in the country.
And it's on a big hill.
So you've got the score just view.
And it's like a 1,800, like Victorian house.
Oh, the top floor is the most haunted.
I've had my phone start charging out of nowhere.
What?
Yeah, light will be on.
Just fine.
You go in them, like start flickering.
Oh my gosh.
My, my mom's had like, like her phone start randomly calling people, like just randomly.
A lot of device stuff.
We used to have a border callee and he was my mom's like PTSD service dog type thing.
He was with her all the time, but he would refuse to go upstairs and he would lay out
the floor and cry like downstairs while we were cleaning up there.
Oh my gosh.
And it's very, very last of us.
Yeah.
And cold spots galore.
I mean, you walk in there's one bedroom that's really bad and it's always so cold compared
to the rest of the house.
I've seen my breath in there before.
I love it.
Ooh, that's so creepy.
I want to go.
It's like, I'm going.
Is it open to the public?
No, but I can't get you to her.
She's like, I know again.
That's connections.
I have to eat something.
It's like the middle of the night we all speak into this haunted house and do a Ouija board.
Yes.
No, no, no, Ouija boards.
Come on, guys.
No.
I know how to get my mom to listen to the podcast now though, because I've got a guilty confession
because I hate Ouija board.
Sorry, I'm doing this just social listen.
Okay, we'll make sure we put it in.
We love it.
I hate Ouija boards.
You do not mess around with that energy.
Know what's going to come out.
Don't know what's going to happen.
So she has been continuously making jokes about how she's going to do a stay on her house
because of Carl the Goose.
She wouldn't stop.
I mean, I was getting really annoying.
I bought a Ouija board.
My head had it sit there with no return label or anything.
No, who sent it or anything.
So she's sitting there.
Who sent me a Ouija board?
Everybody said, no, didn't touch it.
Let me.
She's like, it was you, wasn't it?
No, I wouldn't do that.
What are you talking about?
No, it was me.
It's only been like a year.
Oh my god.
You kept that secret for a year.
I kept that secret for a year.
Oh my god.
I mean, I'm sure I revealed it on our pod.
Yes.
I have no idea.
And now I'm like, holy shit.
I'm a petty bitch.
I will be confused.
You do stuff to irritate me.
I will be petty.
No.
I would argue that's not petty at all.
Like, that's just an example of like fuck around and find out.
Yeah.
But I work at, I work at you and young distillery.
And if you guys want to look on history, you should look up the history of you and young.
Is it haunted too?
Well, well, okay.
So our distillery is actually where he settled.
He was Oregon's first settler before it was even a territory.
And so he settled on the property that we're at.
And he brought the Scottish Highland paddle, which are like the little short guys with
little tiny horns at all furry.
And he was a fur trapper and then he was Oregon's first settler.
And he's actually buried out underneath the tree on our property.
And there's a massive oak tree where he's buried.
And I don't know if you've ever heard of shampooy park, but that's where they held his service
and his best friend, Amanda Bailey, took a corn from there and she put it in his grave
and that's why the tree is there.
But we've actually had ghost hunters come out because our tree is haunted.
And they've actually got indications of three children that they think are his grandchildren
or great-grandchildren and mom, tireless sure what it was.
But they actually recently just came back out into the second, like an EVP recording session.
Oh, cool.
So it's fun.
It's fun.
Yes, yes.
Yes.
Oh, it's outside.
And I kind of oddly feel like those can't really do anything to me outside.
So I want to go to there.
Okay.
I'm going to open Saturdays and Sundays.
One time she's like, see you there.
Is everyone here that?
Bailey wants to go to a haunted place.
No one's going to hear this because this is going to be the slice that we save for when
we talk about the distillery.
Okay.
Bring a picnic because we don't have food and not feel like pretzels.
But we've got like cornhole, axe throwing, a big, beautiful pond on a race horse farm.
Pretty cool.
Oh my gosh, that sounds fun.
Yeah, we definitely need to plan a trip.
Okay.
I have one more thing.
Sorry.
I've been growing a little bit.
So do you know how I tell your voices apart?
How?
I'm curious.
Caitlin sounds like Selena Gomez.
Oh, I do.
You do.
You do a little.
Wow.
Even like you're last.
Okay.
So like right now in my head, I'm just hearing.
and you can launch the intro. Like, "Feel museum." I'm like, okay, I'll take that. Well, I have to go now because I'm actually dead. I died. So I'm dead. I am a ghost now. Okay, Salina. Sing for us. I think not.
Okay, so I'm the page around that message. You about Lafayette. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's episode 34, 35 where you guys did the collab and you were talking about the cemetery. Yeah. Yeah. I love to that one. It was that was the one of the ones that I actually went to. So yeah. So that was fun.
The Lafayette has a lot more history than that which though. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. It was organs like it used to be organs Portland type thing. It had the well, I might river ran through it. And so it was really big back in the day before trains for everything need to be sent by a ship. So they had a big hub there. And so they would go, you know, have everything delivered there. And after the witch died actually. So she cursed town died. Whatever.
Three times. And then she also cursed the town. That's the Atlanta River would dry up. And it did it dried up not portion. And so they built the Lafayette locks trying to. Yeah, trying to get the river to go back. And the river eventually did go back by the by the time that happened.
River tracks were built in Macmindville. I don't know if you know Macmindville. Start booming. Lafayette essentially kind of died out. So Macmindville kind of took Lafayette's thunder because they they river to dry up. And that's why they were so big was because of the river in the shipping.
I mean, I'm sorry. I'm like, I'm like, oh, I got this. I'm going to tell you guys. I can. I can. No, we love it. Deep into that one because there was four other stories. And I like, you can't just go as deep as you want to with that. Oh, yeah. But.
And then like, good to know this history. We can like revisit. You know, and like the museum there is like supposedly haunted because there's a grand piano there. And a girl had gotten it as a gift for I think it was like her 15th or 16th birthday.
And for her birthday after she received. I can't talk talking's hard. Receive that piano. She's gone to the organ coast with her friends for a trip. And she actually drowned right after she. And she never came back.
Oh, she got. She got. So that in the ocean. But that piano plays by itself in that. Locky at museum all the time now. Oh my gosh. I think I did read about that. It's kind of fun.
I don't think I included it because it wasn't really part of that story. But it's just a player piano.
I've got a couple other recommendations. I'm sorry if I'm taking up too much time. So I grew up in granite and some throw organ.
Okay, okay, middle of nowhere. I mean, I mean, I really. Some first turn down like three times. Yeah. But some first also burnt down. I think at least three or four times. And granite stopped their population.
Stop being on. Stop being on fire. It gets so stressful. But granite has a population. I think of 21 people now. Wow.
I mean, I think that I think that it might be more now, but I think in 2017 it was like 21. And kind of a joke about Carl is I.
We went to another gold vine. So when I was a kid up there and I'd taken one of the bricks that were from a cave in. And so everybody jokes around.
So that brick is what brought Carl my ghost. I have it over here.
But it has like a stamp on it. I think it's like W. I was going to say you're going to have to send us a picture of it. That might be it. Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, probably shouldn't have done that. But I was like 10 years old.
Okay. I mean, what did you know? Carl doesn't seem mean. So no, I love Carl.
Like it couldn't have worked out better. If someone had a heart, you know, I feel like you want Carl.
So when my parents bought their farm, it's a new bird. They used to be like, I think it was close to 80 acres, but they subdivided it for the family.
And on the main property where the parents used to live, which is not where my parents bought like my parents bought a property next to it. That was for their child.
So on the old farm where the parents don't there was a whole really, really racquetty farmhouse.
They're grandson and I could come to the original owners. They're grandson would come and stay with them and they still stay on our property sometime.
So it was like summertime. It was like 100 degrees out. We were left at the farm alone, or 12 or 13.
And we decided to go explore the old abandoned farmhouse next door and they had the cow.
And they had like, you see a dairy farm. So they had like all the cow barns and stuff in it and we went to cow barns. They were just too freaky. We were like, I know.
So going to house and I don't know, you know, but like in the old, old houses, you know, the really steep stairs that are like, I would lose my breath like two steps up now.
But we went up to go to that bedroom. There was only one bedroom going up these really steep stairs and the door we noticed immediately that there was a lock on the outside of the door. Not one on the inside was on the outside.
Oh, that's always no creepy.
Jacob at the time made the joke of what if we got locked in? Ha, ha, ha. Like you're not funny. So we go on the room. We start looking around and there's a pentagram on the floor.
Oh, and we're both like, what is this? And we're like looking at it and then we look in the closet and there's like the game Candyland was set up and then like a blanket like something was laying down and playing Candyland by themselves or something.
I just played that last night.
Yeah, well, about four games in the closet. And as we're taking all this end, the door slam shut.
No, no, I have to go. Why did you play so the room like he said it was shaking. I felt more like a full station type of thing. The Candyland game pieces on the board started like vibrating and moving.
And you started crying and he was like sitting in the corner. I mean, this is one of those stories you want to believe it, but we both talk about it.
And we still remember the things, but I mean, it was just when he was crying, I'm trying to figure out how to go to window. The windows are barred and we're two stories up and we're, you know, 12 or 13 years old. I was probably breaking my legs, jumping out the window.
And so I'm like, all right, I'm just going to sit over here by him, kind of make him feel better and ride this out and then all of a sudden the doors like freaks open and it's then close and words it open and like, you know what I mean?
It doesn't go in the room. It opens out towards the hallway. Yeah. Yeah. And so it doesn't make any sense. Could we see faster?
The door open. I've never needed myself out of building so freaking fast.
Yeah. Why are bars on the window?
I have no clue. And why is there a pentagram on the floor?
That to me seems like if it wasn't so rural and even if it it like even though it is that just seems like it's teenagers or, you know, somebody like kind of camping out there using that space.
I'm kind of curious. It was, you know, either like you said kid homeless people maybe there is something. Yeah.
Two weeks later that house burnt down for unknown reasons.
Have a creepy ass day. See you next Tuesday.
Or yeah, probably unless we might see sooner who knows? I'll show the squirrel.
Yeah.
Well, I used to like owls.
Oh boy. Okay, we get to go.
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