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♪ Entertain me, Entertain me right now ♪

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- Hello, dear listener.

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You are just in time for another episode

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of the Pop Culture Junkie podcast.

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I'm Olivia.

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- And I'm Shauna.

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- And on our last episode,

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we talked about celebrity feuds.

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So we're hitting you with an Uno Reverse for this one.

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And we're talking about our favorite celebrity besties,

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the duos that we cannot get enough of,

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just like Shauna and I,

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your favorite celebrity besties.

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- Obviously.

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- But before we dive into the friendships

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that make Pop Culture,

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we need to talk about the Patreon.

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We think that aside from Shauna and I being besties

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that our Patreon listeners are truly our besties.

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So we do have a Patreon you can choose to express

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just how much you like us at the casual fan level

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of $1 a month will give you a special shout out

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on an episode of the show.

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And at the obsessed fan level of $5 a month,

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you'll get access to our uncensored video version

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of the podcast up to a week early,

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which is an unbeatable value.

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- Yes it is.

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- So Shauna, before we dive into celebrity friendships,

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I wanted to pick your brain.

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What makes a good friendship to you?

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- You mean just like in general?

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- Yeah.

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- Yeah.

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- What makes an iconic bestie do you?

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- You're hitting me with the deep shit today.

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(laughing)

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I literally sent you a Snapchat today

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of what I thought makes a good friend, which is so funny.

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So, and I said in my Snapchat from earlier

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that a really true friend sees the best in you

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and that they in their heart know that you're a good person,

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they believe in you and they always know

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that you have their back too.

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So your friend is always gonna see the best in you,

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know that you have good intentions

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and if you get into a disagreement,

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just work it out and talk it over.

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But you're always gonna have each other's backs,

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I think is what makes a good friend.

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- Yeah, I also think like celebrating each other's wins

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is a bit piece of that.

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Like you're kind of always that person's biggest supporter

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or you're always rooting them on.

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When you're not in a room, they're talking positively about you

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and really just making those positive friendships

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or positive energy. - There's not a good petition.

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- Exactly, like if I see something amazing happen to you,

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I'm not gonna be like, oh man, Olivia got to move away,

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got a raise, no, I'm like ragging everyone.

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Olivia got to move away and she's having

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this wonderful apartment and like, you know what I mean?

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So I totally agree with that.

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You hype each other up behind each other's backs

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and to each other's faces.

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- Yes, absolutely.

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And you know, there are so many iconic celebrity friendships

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over the years that we've seen, you know,

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across female and male friendships, you know,

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when I think of iconic celebrity friends,

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I think of people like Ben Affleck and Matt Damon.

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We have Tina Fey and Amy Poehler.

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We have Selena Gomez and Taylor Swift.

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We have Leonardo DiCaprio and Toby McGuire.

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We talked about her last week.

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She was also in an iconic feud.

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We have Snoop Dogg and Martha Stewart, you know?

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- I love that so much.

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I also love that some of the people that were saying

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from their famous friendships also are in famous feuds

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like Taylor Swift.

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You're gonna have your besties

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and you're gonna have your enemies.

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- Love and hate is a thin line, you know?

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- You know what I mean?

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- You know, you love good, you hate good.

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- That's fair, that's fair.

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- I don't know if they say that, but, you know.

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- You know what they say?

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Well, you put a sandwich together on the streets.

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You gotta put the mustard on the bun.

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You know what I'm saying?

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That's what people have been saying.

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- That's what the people are saying.

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- That's what the people are saying.

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- We didn't get a newsboard at Transatlantic accent.

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- Oh, when you put the mustard on the bun

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and the middle of the street.

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God damn it.

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- And that's true friendship.

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Making your friend say everything in a newsboard.

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And knowing how to make each other laugh.

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- That's the truth.

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Kendall Jenner and Gigi Hadid.

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Are they best friends?

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They're kind of iconic together.

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They're model besties, you know?

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- Oh my god, that's like a thing.

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I mean twins.

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- twins, it's basically us walking the runway together

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and not eating.

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- Oh, Jennifer, and Kourtney Cox.

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- You can have a nice, you know?

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- I do love that the whole friend's cast is still like friends.

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It's very sweet.

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- I love that.

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- So what do you think?

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I don't know, I feel like it's so hard

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and there is that classic trope

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in Hollywood that marriages never last.

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Why do you think some celebrity friendships last so long?

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- When I think about celebrity friendships

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and what we know about celebrity friendships,

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a lot of the time in publicity and celebrity PR,

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they always say that, you know, one plus one

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does not equal to a lot of the time.

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It really explodes you into a different level

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because you have two fandoms coming together

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and as well as two haters of different things.

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Like one plus one is almost like four

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within any type of relationship,

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whether it's romantic, it's friendships

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or it's a negative relationship where you have feuds.

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And ultimately, I think that there is a financial reason

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to stay friends as well.

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And then I think there is this sort of trauma bond

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that happens between famous people

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where I especially feel like an a less celebrity.

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There are only so many people who can relate

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to the experience of celebrity and fandom

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and stand on.

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- That's what I'm thinking too.

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It's like only a celebrity could also put up

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with you being followed around, right?

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Like, Kindle and GG.

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I mean, you can't just be friends with Kindle Jenner

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and not be okay with, you're gonna get photographed at brunch.

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You're gonna get photographed at the mall.

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You can't just do normal shit like you and I

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just go thrifting and sit at the bar and have a beer, right?

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It's gonna be next level.

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Like you have to know what you're signing up for.

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And I do always like it when I see pictures and articles

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and stuff of celebrities who still have their friends

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from childhood.

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- Hillary Duff posts a lot of pictures with just like

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a big gaggle of girls and then I'll go to some other profiles

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and they have like a thousand followers.

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And I'm like, oh, that's just like her friend

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from like growing up and I love to do that too.

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like Kindle Jenner, like levels of fame.

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So it's like, I don't know.

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I would be curious, you know, how often really

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fucking famous people are just like,

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let me catch up with that girl from high school.

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- Yeah, I almost think of like so, you know,

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it's shocker we're talking about her.

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Taylor Swift.

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She is still really good friends with Abigail,

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who's the girl that she wrote 15 about.

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- Oh, cute.

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- And Abigail has become a like,

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Swiftie celebrity in her own right.

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And there are certain types of people who are chasing that.

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But I can only imagine like as a plebe as a regular person

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who only wants to be a regular person,

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that would be incredibly hard where like people

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are even trying to get close to this regular person

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because they could eventually one day get close to that celebrity.

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- Very frustrating.

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Or they're just like, you think you're making a new friend.

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So what's Taylor like?

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I don't even like me.

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- So I think that among those friendships,

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there's a level of knowing and like shared experience

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and kind of like similar states, right?

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Like, oh, I would love to go to Jenner with you,

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but I have to bring my six bodyguards.

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Or if you want to post a picture with me,

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you have to meet with my publicist before

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and make sure you're not like saying the wrong thing.

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Oh, if you want to even be around me,

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you have to be perfectly clean on social media.

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You can't have a problematic past.

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Where I think there is this level of that.

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But at the same time, you know, Hollywood is a very

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doggy dog world.

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So I think that a month, like the reason that we gravitate

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to so many of these celebrity friendships

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as well is because when we see that solidarity among people,

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we're like, oh, good, they're not like

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- They're just like a beauty.

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- They're not, yeah.

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- They're not all pieces of shit.

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My fave lady Gaga has some of her old friends

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still from back before she was famous.

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One of her best friends, it's either Sonya or Sanja Durum

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passed away from cancer years ago

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and Gaga was just, I remember, so grief-stricken.

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And then she is still friends with Lady Starlight.

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- Who started - who were touring with Gaga

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when she was first in the New York club,

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seeing it was like the Lady Gaga Lady Starlight debut review.

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Like it was the two of them.

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And so they're still friends.

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So I do like to see that, but I agree.

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You gotta know what you're signing up for

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when you're friends with a celebrity.

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- Which is what we tell our friends all the time.

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- Yeah. - You know.

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- You gotta be prepared for this.

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- I'm gonna prepare this space.

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- We'll send you with a bridge.

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- Right.

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- We stopped in the streets.

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I hope that's okay.

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Oh, that's just because we're obnoxious in public.

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Okay, okay, okay.

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You got it, got it.

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- We talked a little bit about celebrity duos

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that are most commonly known or talked about

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in the zeitgeist in the world.

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But, Shana, I wanna know the celebrity duos

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that captivate you the most.

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The ones that you find yourself thinking about

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and thinking rich people goals.

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- Who do I think about when I lay in bed at night?

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- That's a different question.

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That's a different question.

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- Oprah.

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(laughing)

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- So I think-- - Let's unpack that.

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Let's unpack that.

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- Let's go through this a little bit.

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Oprah is goals.

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And part of one of the most iconic friendships,

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I think, in entertainment,

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and that is Oprah Winfrey and Gail King.

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Their friendship has spanned nearly five decades.

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So, their friendship began in 1976

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when they were both working at the WJZ TV station in Baltimore.

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Oprah was a 22-year-old news anchor

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and Gail was the 21-year-old production assistant.

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There was a snowstorm in Baltimore

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and Oprah offered Gail a place to stay at her apartment

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and they just stayed up all night,

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chatting and became best friends.

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- You kidding me?

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- Oh, okay.

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- Love that.

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Their friendship was just unshakable and still is.

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Gail was on the Oprah show all of the time.

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Just literally, here's my best friend, Gail.

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Oprah had a magazine called O,

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mm-hmm, which ran from 2000 to 2020

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and Gail was an editor.

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And Oprah has said that Gail is the person who knows her best

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and as referred to as the mother,

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I never had the sister everybody would want.

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The friend everybody deserves.

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And like any good girl on girl friendship

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and I guess boy and boy friendship, any good friendship ever.

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People have always speculated that they might be more than friends.

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- Ooh, yes.

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- It's not a celebrity female friendship unless they say,

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are you two, Sizzling?

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- Are you guys like Gail?

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- Are you like Sizzling?

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- I just, you know, people ever say that

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about Ben Aff, like I'm at Damon, do they?

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- Do they?

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- Yeah, there are a lot of game rumors about that.

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- Are there?

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- I don't know if they're Sizzling or Ring.

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I don't know if that's the mechanics of it.

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- I don't think that's what Gail guys do.

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- I don't think they're Sizzling or Ring.

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- I don't think they're Sizzling or Ring.

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- Bum, butt, butt.

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- Light to butt.

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(laughing)

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- Airstri, airstri, airstri.

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(laughing)

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That is such a dark part of the movie

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and I quote it all of the time.

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- Anyway, how can you not?

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- Repaying for a drink.

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- Sizzling.

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- Oh, thank you.

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Yes.

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- Terrible, horrible, wonderful movie.

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Anyway, Oprah and Gail.

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- Oh, that's cool.

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- Oprah has been with Steadman for decades

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and Gail came out to be married now.

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His name is William Bumpus, which is an old name.

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That's a cool fucking, oh never mind.

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They were married for one year.

327
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- Oh.

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- I don't think she's--

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- Oh, that didn't help the gay rumours.

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- No.

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(laughing)

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They were married for one year.

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I don't think she's married anymore.

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- Well, yeah, Gail Bumpus.

335
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- Gail Bumpus is a sick fucking name.

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And then the next cool result is

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are Oprah and Gail in a relationship?

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(laughing)

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A friendship line.

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But yeah, I love them.

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I think that Oprah is one of the most famous people

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in the entire planet.

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And for her to have a female friendship

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that has lasted five decades,

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where they support each other privately,

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publicly vacations, all of that stuff,

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support each other.

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It's like you mentioned earlier,

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always rooting for each other.

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That'd be like if I had Shana Magazine

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and you were an editor, you had like,

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oh yeah, and I can see it and I was the editor.

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Like, I love that.

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So--

355
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- Absolutely.

356
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- Oh, Brango.

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- We can even keep it as, oh, oh my God.

358
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We could call it so magazine, like Shana, I don't love it.

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So--

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- Branding.

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- Let's do it.

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- I should start in a magazine.

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We're channeling Oprah and Gail.

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- And we are.

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- So I think when I think back

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to my most iconic celebrity friendship,

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one I would wanna be a part of, a third wheel,

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I would wanna be either of them.

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I really think of Cameron Diaz and Drew Barrymore.

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- Yes, I love them.

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- Their friendship has spanned since Drew Barrymore

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was 14, Cameron Diaz was 16,

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they actually now--

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- I think that was that long.

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- Oh my gosh, yeah.

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- Yeah, they're adorable.

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So they met in a coffee shop that Diaz was working in.

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She was a model at the time.

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She hadn't gotten picked up in anything really famous

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and she was mainly trying to be a model.

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It was like a coffee soda shop thing.

382
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- Oh, okay.

383
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- And Drew Barrymore when she wasn't clubbing at 14.

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- Right, she's going to this coffee shop.

385
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- And we heard autobiography, by the way,

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Little Girl Law.

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- I think it's on, it's insane.

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Like, it's kind of interesting.

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So I don't know if she's retracted this.

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She has said that she doesn't want people to read that.

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- Really?

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- And he wore it because, yeah,

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she was in such like a dark place

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and it wasn't like authentic or true.

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And she was really kind of like covering up

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what was really going on with her back then.

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So, but I mean, if you've already been--

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- Drew, release an updated book.

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I read it in high school.

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I think I wrote a book report on it.

401
00:15:40,580 --> 00:15:44,020
- Like, that's a dark subject matter.

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But if you, our unfamiliar Drew Barrymore was going through

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a addiction or her mother was taking her clubbing,

404
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she was doing a lot of things that are 14,

405
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even younger than that, Lynette.

406
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- Yeah, she's like a girl.

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00:15:55,740 --> 00:15:56,580
- She's like 14 year old.

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- She should not be doing.

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And so she was kind of in this dark night of the soul.

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Her and Cameradia's were friends throughout this.

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Drew Barrymore kind of went out in spotlight,

412
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went to rehab, tried to fix herself.

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Cameradia's became super famous in the mask in 1994.

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00:16:13,020 --> 00:16:17,540
And Drew Barrymore came back as like Poison Ivy in 1992.

415
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- Oh, yeah.

416
00:16:19,260 --> 00:16:22,900
- They made the early 80s, made this return to film

417
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in the 90s.

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And we're both seen as these kind of darlings of film.

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00:16:27,260 --> 00:16:30,340
And cinema, we were really introduced to them

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00:16:30,340 --> 00:16:35,340
as this iconic duo in Charlie's Angels with Lucy Lou.

421
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Yeah.

422
00:16:36,100 --> 00:16:39,740
- Yes, you've probably seen that iconic photo of Drew

423
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in the leather pants holding the bottle of champagne.

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Their tour bus actually broke down on the way to the premiere.

425
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And so they just get out of the car

426
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and bring the alcohol with them and walk to the premiere.

427
00:16:52,660 --> 00:16:53,860
And that's where that goes from.

428
00:16:53,860 --> 00:16:55,700
- That sounds like me and you, all this time.

429
00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:57,020
- Like, Scroa.

430
00:16:57,020 --> 00:16:59,740
- Yeah, I just got an opportunity to shoot with it.

431
00:16:59,740 --> 00:17:00,580
(laughing)

432
00:17:00,580 --> 00:17:04,300
- So Drew Barrymore produced Charlie's Angels

433
00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:08,900
and ultimately their friendship continued through those movies

434
00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:10,740
and has continued.

435
00:17:10,740 --> 00:17:12,140
- How cute.

436
00:17:12,140 --> 00:17:15,860
- They stayed really close when I forgot about this.

437
00:17:15,860 --> 00:17:17,940
Drew Barrymore was married to Tom Green

438
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for also one year.

439
00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:21,060
- Oh, that's right.

440
00:17:21,060 --> 00:17:23,540
He was in Charlie's Angels.

441
00:17:23,540 --> 00:17:25,060
The Chad was great.

442
00:17:25,060 --> 00:17:26,460
- The Chad was great.

443
00:17:26,460 --> 00:17:27,740
- She's like, yes.

444
00:17:27,740 --> 00:17:29,020
- How was the Chad?

445
00:17:29,020 --> 00:17:31,820
- Yes, God.

446
00:17:31,820 --> 00:17:35,780
- You know, there were some ups and downs,

447
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manly down being marrying Tom Green.

448
00:17:38,060 --> 00:17:39,500
We all make choices.

449
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They've remained private friends, public friends.

450
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They have really kind of made a return recently

451
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to embracing their friendship

452
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and really talking about each other.

453
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They have some adorable Instagram posts

454
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about how much they love each other.

455
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So definitely check out their Instagram for that.

456
00:17:58,860 --> 00:17:59,700
- How cute.

457
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I didn't know that they had known each other for that long.

458
00:18:01,260 --> 00:18:02,780
That's adorable.

459
00:18:02,780 --> 00:18:05,940
- Yeah, so they met when Drew was super down

460
00:18:05,940 --> 00:18:09,820
who's still famous, but Dee was not a household name,

461
00:18:09,820 --> 00:18:12,820
but it's a beautiful friendship

462
00:18:12,820 --> 00:18:17,260
and Drew Barrymore unfortunately was a scab this past year,

463
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but I do love her.

464
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I think she's been through a lot.

465
00:18:19,860 --> 00:18:20,860
- I like her a lot too.

466
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I'll cut her some slack.

467
00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:24,300
I think she seems like she means well,

468
00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:26,620
she seems like she has a really big heart.

469
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Apparently not for union workers,

470
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no, not for union workers.

471
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(laughing)

472
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For everyone else to take unions.

473
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- Anyone who's sitting on the sofa,

474
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she's like wants to crawl into their lap

475
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- Absolutely.

476
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- to their skin, their face, like,

477
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can I keep you in my walls?

478
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Yeah, so.

479
00:18:45,100 --> 00:18:45,940
- Literally.

480
00:18:45,940 --> 00:18:47,420
- So funny.

481
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- So yeah, I think that's my most iconic.

482
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- I love that.

483
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(dramatic music)

484
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We're talking about female friendships,

485
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but I think that's just because we love each other so much.

486
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There are a lot of amazing male friendships out there,

487
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obviously too.

488
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And I think there should be more men who express their love

489
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for the other men in a friendship manner

490
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and without making, I don't know.

491
00:19:12,140 --> 00:19:13,820
Guys are always so weird about expressing

492
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that they like each other.

493
00:19:14,900 --> 00:19:15,900
It's like you ask,

494
00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:17,460
ask my husband who is best friend

495
00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:18,140
and he's just like,

496
00:19:18,140 --> 00:19:20,420
(grunting)

497
00:19:20,420 --> 00:19:21,260
- What?

498
00:19:21,260 --> 00:19:22,100
- Who?

499
00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:25,020
- Oh, yeah, I guess he's okay.

500
00:19:25,020 --> 00:19:27,460
- That man that you've known for 30 years is okay.

501
00:19:27,460 --> 00:19:28,700
All right, I digress.

502
00:19:28,700 --> 00:19:30,420
(laughing)

503
00:19:30,420 --> 00:19:33,180
- Female friendships is where it's at.

504
00:19:33,180 --> 00:19:35,180
This one is sad,

505
00:19:35,180 --> 00:19:38,260
but I think it is amazing and iconic and beautiful

506
00:19:38,260 --> 00:19:41,260
Sarah Michelle Geller and Shannon Doherty.

507
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So they shared a close friendship that began

508
00:19:43,740 --> 00:19:46,220
in the late 1990s and early 2000s

509
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during both of their peak television fame.

510
00:19:49,180 --> 00:19:52,980
And it continued up until Shannon Doherty's death last year.

511
00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:55,220
So here's a little break down.

512
00:19:55,220 --> 00:19:59,580
So Sarah and Shannon were both in TV in the 1990s.

513
00:19:59,580 --> 00:20:02,620
Sarah obviously was buffy, my favorite,

514
00:20:02,620 --> 00:20:04,260
a buffy the vampire slayer

515
00:20:04,260 --> 00:20:07,180
and Shannon was prue, hollow, well, uncharmed.

516
00:20:07,180 --> 00:20:10,260
So they were both kind of in that fantasy,

517
00:20:10,260 --> 00:20:13,180
witch and slayer type television series.

518
00:20:13,180 --> 00:20:14,660
- Both on the WB.

519
00:20:14,660 --> 00:20:17,260
- They were both on the WB, exactly.

520
00:20:17,260 --> 00:20:21,460
So they both shared a connection, shared experiences,

521
00:20:21,460 --> 00:20:23,780
young actresses on the WB,

522
00:20:23,780 --> 00:20:26,300
kind of met through those cast things.

523
00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:28,140
So throughout their careers,

524
00:20:28,140 --> 00:20:31,420
they have been absolutely inseparable.

525
00:20:31,420 --> 00:20:34,740
Soma Blayer is part of that friendship career as well.

526
00:20:34,740 --> 00:20:38,620
Their pictures on Instagram were always so adorable.

527
00:20:38,620 --> 00:20:41,260
I remember one with the three of them doing that trend

528
00:20:41,260 --> 00:20:44,060
where it's like, you and I should try this at the time.

529
00:20:44,060 --> 00:20:45,300
I'm surprised we have it.

530
00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:48,020
One person sits like between another person's legs,

531
00:20:48,020 --> 00:20:49,380
like almost in their lap,

532
00:20:49,380 --> 00:20:51,180
who puts a champagne glass in their mouth

533
00:20:51,180 --> 00:20:53,300
and like, it's sit back and tries to get,

534
00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:55,780
they're like, champagne in the other girl's mouth.

535
00:20:55,780 --> 00:20:57,780
Anyway, it always ends in disaster.

536
00:20:57,780 --> 00:20:59,740
- We're trying to get a shower.

537
00:20:59,740 --> 00:21:00,900
- What's your contest?

538
00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:03,460
- A little golden shower.

539
00:21:03,460 --> 00:21:04,340
- Okay, not bad.

540
00:21:04,340 --> 00:21:05,180
- Oh god.

541
00:21:05,180 --> 00:21:06,860
- I meant, I meant Pino N' War.

542
00:21:06,860 --> 00:21:07,700
Oh god.

543
00:21:07,700 --> 00:21:12,700
Anyway, these two queens have gotten invocations together.

544
00:21:12,700 --> 00:21:16,100
They shared a mutual love of cooking and entertaining,

545
00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:17,980
personal life milestones,

546
00:21:17,980 --> 00:21:19,740
each other to support each other's with babies

547
00:21:19,740 --> 00:21:20,900
and weddings.

548
00:21:20,900 --> 00:21:25,420
Shannon Doherty was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2015.

549
00:21:25,420 --> 00:21:28,100
She went into remission, but unfortunately,

550
00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:31,540
it returned as stage four in 2020.

551
00:21:31,540 --> 00:21:34,180
Sarah Michelle Geller publicly supported Doherty

552
00:21:34,180 --> 00:21:36,660
on social media all the time.

553
00:21:36,660 --> 00:21:39,220
Throughout her struggle was always visiting her,

554
00:21:39,220 --> 00:21:41,460
always posting pictures about her.

555
00:21:41,460 --> 00:21:45,380
Tragically, Shannon did pass away in July 2024.

556
00:21:45,380 --> 00:21:48,060
Since then, Sarah Michelle Geller has posted

557
00:21:48,060 --> 00:21:51,060
a lot of tributes to her friend, Shannon,

558
00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:55,180
highlighting their friendship over the past three decades.

559
00:21:55,180 --> 00:21:57,020
She praised her strength, resilience,

560
00:21:57,020 --> 00:22:01,140
and fighting spirit throughout her battle of cancer.

561
00:22:01,140 --> 00:22:06,140
So, very sad, ended, you know, short,

562
00:22:06,140 --> 00:22:08,460
I don't know, that just breaks my heart.

563
00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:11,860
I can't imagine losing your best friend of 30 years like that.

564
00:22:11,860 --> 00:22:14,500
So, heart goes out to Sarah Michelle Geller

565
00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:17,100
and that is a beautiful friendship

566
00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:20,420
that she should always celebrate in whole close.

567
00:22:20,420 --> 00:22:22,340
- I would do anything to be besties

568
00:22:22,340 --> 00:22:23,500
with Sarah Michelle Geller.

569
00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:24,820
- Oh my god, right.

570
00:22:24,820 --> 00:22:28,420
I know, and I know her and Selma Blair are still friends.

571
00:22:28,420 --> 00:22:31,180
Selma has, I liked her so much

572
00:22:31,180 --> 00:22:34,300
and she's definitely made some weird comments

573
00:22:34,300 --> 00:22:37,940
in the last year about like Islam

574
00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:41,140
and just, I don't know, she has some interesting

575
00:22:41,140 --> 00:22:43,820
public statements that she's made.

576
00:22:43,820 --> 00:22:45,420
- Yeah, she's also very good.

577
00:22:45,420 --> 00:22:48,420
- Yeah, she's also going through MS.

578
00:22:48,420 --> 00:22:51,300
- Yes, she is going through a huge, you know,

579
00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:53,420
health crisis that I could never imagine either.

580
00:22:53,420 --> 00:22:55,820
So, but yeah, Sarah Michelle Geller

581
00:22:55,820 --> 00:22:59,420
hanging on to her girlfriends and her husband, listen.

582
00:22:59,420 --> 00:23:00,260
- Yeah.

583
00:23:00,260 --> 00:23:01,860
- She has also been with her husband,

584
00:23:01,860 --> 00:23:03,700
Freddie Prince Jr. for decades.

585
00:23:03,700 --> 00:23:06,740
So, my girl doesn't just love a mendigem.

586
00:23:06,740 --> 00:23:08,820
She holds on to that.

587
00:23:08,820 --> 00:23:10,300
- It's all good.

588
00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:12,460
- I mean, we'll stop believing in love

589
00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:14,020
if they ain't ever good to divorce.

590
00:23:14,020 --> 00:23:15,500
- Oh my god, no, if they get a divorce,

591
00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:16,420
I'm getting a divorce.

592
00:23:16,420 --> 00:23:17,260
Like it's gonna happen.

593
00:23:17,260 --> 00:23:18,100
(laughing)

594
00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:20,660
- Sarah Michelle Geller said I had to, I'm sorry.

595
00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:21,660
- I'm so sorry.

596
00:23:21,660 --> 00:23:22,860
- I don't believe them up anymore.

597
00:23:22,860 --> 00:23:25,100
- I have to end this.

598
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:26,780
(laughing)

599
00:23:26,780 --> 00:23:27,780
- I'm just kidding, babe.

600
00:23:27,780 --> 00:23:28,980
I'm just kidding.

601
00:23:28,980 --> 00:23:30,740
- He's not listening here to say.

602
00:23:30,740 --> 00:23:31,900
- He's not listening.

603
00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:33,780
- He's playing Marvel rivals right now

604
00:23:33,780 --> 00:23:36,420
with his headphones onto, I'm sure he's not.

605
00:23:36,420 --> 00:23:40,220
- So, I think that this friendship,

606
00:23:40,220 --> 00:23:44,860
it really is a testament to the shared trauma bond

607
00:23:44,860 --> 00:23:47,380
of it all that happens as well.

608
00:23:47,380 --> 00:23:49,820
So, the next friendship that I really, really love

609
00:23:49,820 --> 00:23:52,340
and started at a very young age as well

610
00:23:52,340 --> 00:23:55,420
is Sophie Turner and Maisie Williams.

611
00:23:55,420 --> 00:23:57,060
- Oh yeah, they're so cute.

612
00:23:57,060 --> 00:23:58,580
Are they still friends?

613
00:23:58,580 --> 00:23:59,420
- Yes, they are.

614
00:23:59,420 --> 00:24:04,420
So, they are Sansa and Arya within the Game of Thrones.

615
00:24:04,420 --> 00:24:09,420
They both were in the North for a lot of their early seasons

616
00:24:09,420 --> 00:24:11,380
as well.

617
00:24:11,380 --> 00:24:14,420
I mean, Sansa, spoiler alert first show that I ended

618
00:24:14,420 --> 00:24:16,100
and was widely talked about.

619
00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:16,940
- Oh, really?

620
00:24:16,940 --> 00:24:18,820
- Sansa eventually goes to King's Landing,

621
00:24:18,820 --> 00:24:22,460
but a lot of the first season they are together

622
00:24:22,460 --> 00:24:26,060
and they were incredibly young when they first started

623
00:24:26,060 --> 00:24:28,820
the show, their characters are very young.

624
00:24:28,820 --> 00:24:32,140
And so, they became really good friends.

625
00:24:32,140 --> 00:24:34,420
Instantly, Maisie Williams is quoted

626
00:24:34,420 --> 00:24:37,100
kind of in that early audition process and says,

627
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:38,860
like, even if I don't get the part,

628
00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:41,060
I really want that girl to be my friend.

629
00:24:41,060 --> 00:24:42,300
She's really cool.

630
00:24:42,300 --> 00:24:43,420
- Oh, that's so cute.

631
00:24:43,420 --> 00:24:44,260
- Right.

632
00:24:44,260 --> 00:24:45,260
(laughing)

633
00:24:45,260 --> 00:24:49,460
And, Sophie has been quoted saying, like, Maisie was special.

634
00:24:49,460 --> 00:24:51,220
We just got on like that.

635
00:24:51,220 --> 00:24:55,580
They were super, super close and spent a lot of time together.

636
00:24:55,580 --> 00:24:58,340
The show filmed for an incredibly long time,

637
00:24:58,340 --> 00:25:01,620
went on for an even longer time in their premieres.

638
00:25:01,620 --> 00:25:05,940
I think their carpool karaoke is one of the funniest things

639
00:25:05,940 --> 00:25:06,780
in the world.

640
00:25:06,780 --> 00:25:08,340
- Oh, it's so cute.

641
00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:11,700
- When Sansa's like pretending to be dead star.

642
00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:12,860
- Oh no.

643
00:25:12,860 --> 00:25:14,020
- It cracks me up.

644
00:25:14,020 --> 00:25:15,620
- It cracks me up so much.

645
00:25:15,620 --> 00:25:19,980
- On the show, it's so serious and the stakes are so dire

646
00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:24,020
and both of them are going through like horrific trauma

647
00:25:24,020 --> 00:25:26,500
and watching their dad's head cut off.

648
00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:29,980
And then behind the scenes, they're so unserious.

649
00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:32,100
That's what I love about that cast so much

650
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:34,060
is like all of the behind the scenes,

651
00:25:34,060 --> 00:25:38,140
they just switch immediately to being like big goofballs,

652
00:25:38,140 --> 00:25:39,540
like every single one of them.

653
00:25:39,540 --> 00:25:40,700
So, I love it.

654
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:41,540
- So I love all of them.

655
00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:42,380
- I love all of them.

656
00:25:42,380 --> 00:25:45,260
- You feel like you have to when the subject matter

657
00:25:45,260 --> 00:25:46,660
is so heavy.

658
00:25:46,660 --> 00:25:49,100
- Yeah, can we please be silly now?

659
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:50,140
(laughs)

660
00:25:50,140 --> 00:25:55,140
- Yeah, and Game of Thrones is kind of especially that part

661
00:25:55,140 --> 00:25:58,780
of the story of Game of Thrones,

662
00:25:58,780 --> 00:26:00,420
how's the dragon is a little bit better,

663
00:26:00,420 --> 00:26:03,420
but it is very brutal to women.

664
00:26:03,420 --> 00:26:04,580
- Yeah, exactly.

665
00:26:04,580 --> 00:26:08,020
- So I can't imagine being like 15

666
00:26:08,020 --> 00:26:10,260
and working through that subject material

667
00:26:10,260 --> 00:26:12,020
and then trying to portray it,

668
00:26:12,020 --> 00:26:16,660
like Sansa, especially it just gets brutalized

669
00:26:16,660 --> 00:26:17,900
throughout that whole show.

670
00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:22,860
- She's a little badass and like a warrior.

671
00:26:22,860 --> 00:26:26,980
And Sansa's just like, here's this terrible man to marry.

672
00:26:26,980 --> 00:26:29,580
Okay, here's this new terrible man to marry.

673
00:26:29,580 --> 00:26:31,380
I mean, Tyrion, he was a show.

674
00:26:31,380 --> 00:26:33,620
- Yeah, but you know.

675
00:26:33,620 --> 00:26:37,740
So the subject matter, just the difficulty

676
00:26:37,740 --> 00:26:40,540
of being away really bonded them.

677
00:26:40,540 --> 00:26:45,540
In 2016, they got matching tattoos, commemorating

678
00:26:45,540 --> 00:26:48,180
the date they learned that they had been cast.

679
00:26:48,180 --> 00:26:51,380
So it's 0809 is the date that they got tattooed.

680
00:26:51,380 --> 00:26:52,820
So 789.

681
00:26:52,820 --> 00:26:57,300
And they did the iconic Carpool karaoke during the last season,

682
00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:01,420
whenever Sophie Turner got married to Joe Jonas,

683
00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:02,340
she was a bride's man.

684
00:27:02,340 --> 00:27:03,180
- All right, okay.

685
00:27:03,180 --> 00:27:04,020
- All right, okay.

686
00:27:04,020 --> 00:27:05,740
- Yeah, well, he's still alive,

687
00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:07,260
but the relationship isn't.

688
00:27:07,260 --> 00:27:08,100
(laughs)

689
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:12,260
- I think Sophie Turner is just so funny and so iconic.

690
00:27:12,260 --> 00:27:13,100
Like that video.

691
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:16,260
- I think I had the hockey game where she chugs

692
00:27:16,260 --> 00:27:18,340
the glass of wine and then like dabs.

693
00:27:18,340 --> 00:27:19,340
- She is just so--

694
00:27:19,340 --> 00:27:21,180
- That was back when dabbing was big.

695
00:27:21,180 --> 00:27:23,060
- Oh my God, let's bring back dabbing.

696
00:27:23,060 --> 00:27:23,900
- Please?

697
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:24,740
- Yeah.

698
00:27:24,740 --> 00:27:26,380
- She's just so unserious.

699
00:27:26,380 --> 00:27:29,340
I love any celebrity like that who can just be like,

700
00:27:29,340 --> 00:27:30,180
I don't know.

701
00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:31,620
I already said this, just be a goofball.

702
00:27:31,620 --> 00:27:32,460
Just be a li--

703
00:27:32,460 --> 00:27:33,460
- Yeah.

704
00:27:33,460 --> 00:27:35,100
- A silly goober, please.

705
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,100
That's all I want to tell you.

706
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:38,460
So after you listen in this episode,

707
00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:41,620
watch their carpool karaoke, it's absolutely hilarious.

708
00:27:41,620 --> 00:27:43,300
- It'll smile on your face.

709
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:44,700
- They publicly support each other.

710
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:47,860
They always talk about how they will always be close

711
00:27:47,860 --> 00:27:49,820
and they're each other's soulmates

712
00:27:49,820 --> 00:27:52,940
and just really have that mutual growth.

713
00:27:52,940 --> 00:27:55,980
I have a lot of friends that I've had since a very young age.

714
00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:57,260
I know you have as well.

715
00:27:57,260 --> 00:27:59,140
I'm sensing a theme here.

716
00:27:59,140 --> 00:28:03,380
I picked two red chips that started at very young ages.

717
00:28:03,380 --> 00:28:07,060
I think there's something so beautiful about changing

718
00:28:07,060 --> 00:28:08,260
completely as a person.

719
00:28:08,260 --> 00:28:11,540
I hope you've changed completely as a person since you were 16.

720
00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:14,380
- Oh no, I'm the same, exactly the same as I was.

721
00:28:14,380 --> 00:28:16,580
Here are the rings and bibles.

722
00:28:16,580 --> 00:28:18,100
- Oh God.

723
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:20,700
But, you know, so I think that's something beautiful

724
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:23,780
with changing as a person and those friendships

725
00:28:23,780 --> 00:28:26,380
like evolving and growing and standing.

726
00:28:26,380 --> 00:28:27,980
- Sticking with somebody through, yeah,

727
00:28:27,980 --> 00:28:29,580
through every stage of your life.

728
00:28:29,580 --> 00:28:33,260
Like, I have friends who have literally seen me

729
00:28:33,260 --> 00:28:37,580
through tragedy, through triumph, through my wedding,

730
00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:40,780
through them getting married and divorces and babies

731
00:28:40,780 --> 00:28:41,780
and moving.

732
00:28:41,780 --> 00:28:43,940
I've had friends who have moved across the country

733
00:28:43,940 --> 00:28:45,540
and then come back and then I, you know,

734
00:28:45,540 --> 00:28:47,660
it's just, those are the ones that really stand

735
00:28:47,660 --> 00:28:48,580
the test of time.

736
00:28:48,580 --> 00:28:51,180
But then also there's those friends that you make

737
00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:53,940
in your 20s who are like with you through

738
00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:56,860
that transformative time where you're like,

739
00:28:56,860 --> 00:28:59,580
you finally are starting to kind of feel like a grownup.

740
00:28:59,580 --> 00:29:01,820
Like when you and I met, you know.

741
00:29:01,820 --> 00:29:04,020
I have one more friendship that I'm gonna shout out.

742
00:29:04,020 --> 00:29:05,260
I'm not gonna go into details,

743
00:29:05,260 --> 00:29:06,740
but I know you have one more to.

744
00:29:06,740 --> 00:29:08,500
But I gotta give some love to Steve Martin

745
00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:09,700
and Martin Short.

746
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:10,540
They're so cute.

747
00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:11,380
- I love that.

748
00:29:11,380 --> 00:29:12,220
Oh my God.

749
00:29:12,220 --> 00:29:16,140
- I love that Martin Short and Mariel Stryford dating now.

750
00:29:16,140 --> 00:29:17,140
Oh my God, right.

751
00:29:17,140 --> 00:29:18,660
It's amazing.

752
00:29:18,660 --> 00:29:20,100
Do you watch only markers in the building?

753
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:20,940
I don't remember.

754
00:29:20,940 --> 00:29:22,100
- No, I still need to.

755
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:25,660
But they just want a sad look.

756
00:29:25,660 --> 00:29:26,500
- Yeah.

757
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:27,500
I loved it.

758
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:28,340
You should watch it.

759
00:29:28,340 --> 00:29:29,180
It's hilarious.

760
00:29:29,180 --> 00:29:30,620
And they are both adorable on it.

761
00:29:30,620 --> 00:29:34,780
But yeah, that's my little final shout out.

762
00:29:34,780 --> 00:29:36,020
- I think that they're cute.

763
00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:37,100
They're adorable.

764
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:40,180
We love a long lasting straight van friendship.

765
00:29:40,180 --> 00:29:44,660
I'm also gonna throw a male friendship into the mix.

766
00:29:44,660 --> 00:29:49,740
Not straight, but we have Anderson Cooper and Andy Cohen.

767
00:29:49,740 --> 00:29:51,800
Oh my God, I love them.

768
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,340
- If you didn't know, it was actually intended

769
00:29:54,340 --> 00:29:56,580
to be a romantic relationship.

770
00:29:56,580 --> 00:29:59,380
So I'm gonna try to set them up on a blind date.

771
00:29:59,380 --> 00:30:00,220
- Really?

772
00:30:00,220 --> 00:30:02,100
- Not Gwen, but Tommy never worked.

773
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:04,940
Anderson Cooper obviously flying around the world,

774
00:30:04,940 --> 00:30:07,340
being a news anchor.

775
00:30:07,340 --> 00:30:11,820
And so their romantic connection never prospered,

776
00:30:11,820 --> 00:30:14,020
but they ultimately became really good friends.

777
00:30:14,020 --> 00:30:16,180
- I think they are close friends.

778
00:30:16,180 --> 00:30:18,580
- I love it when they let them drink on New Year's.

779
00:30:18,580 --> 00:30:19,420
Like let these in.

780
00:30:19,420 --> 00:30:20,580
- And all the fans every year,

781
00:30:20,580 --> 00:30:22,940
like let these men drink for the left of them.

782
00:30:22,940 --> 00:30:24,220
- Let these win drink.

783
00:30:24,220 --> 00:30:28,220
- Well, Andy Cohen was definitely doing more than drinking

784
00:30:28,220 --> 00:30:29,060
in 2020.

785
00:30:29,060 --> 00:30:32,180
And that's why they didn't let him drink in 2021.

786
00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:33,820
You could see some of it.

787
00:30:33,820 --> 00:30:34,660
- Ew.

788
00:30:34,660 --> 00:30:36,180
- It's his skin.

789
00:30:36,180 --> 00:30:37,660
- Yeah, how did it is known?

790
00:30:37,660 --> 00:30:38,500
- The bass room.

791
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:39,780
- It's a little bit too much.

792
00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:43,380
- Yeah, and so that was why they had to cut him off.

793
00:30:43,380 --> 00:30:46,020
But no, I think that Andy Cohen,

794
00:30:46,020 --> 00:30:48,420
he's such a silly goofy guy as well.

795
00:30:48,420 --> 00:30:50,740
And like he's on, watch what happens, lies.

796
00:30:50,740 --> 00:30:54,220
And like his whole brand is getting people to crack,

797
00:30:54,220 --> 00:30:56,980
getting drunk, like saying crazy things.

798
00:30:56,980 --> 00:30:59,300
And then Anderson Cooper is so straight-laced.

799
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:01,220
- Yes, kind of serious.

800
00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:03,100
It's perfect.

801
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:05,180
- And he just messes with him like the whole time.

802
00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:06,940
- Yeah, he brings a whole humanness

803
00:31:06,940 --> 00:31:09,820
to Anderson Cooper as well.

804
00:31:09,820 --> 00:31:12,180
So I really love their friendship.

805
00:31:12,180 --> 00:31:13,380
I think they're silly.

806
00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:17,620
And then now they're both dads and moving into that life.

807
00:31:17,620 --> 00:31:19,980
So you would never put them together,

808
00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:23,020
but when you do, it's kind of hilarious and funny.

809
00:31:23,020 --> 00:31:26,260
- Yeah, I love this like opposites attract kind of thing.

810
00:31:26,260 --> 00:31:29,860
Like it's super Martha, I think it's perfect.

811
00:31:29,860 --> 00:31:32,300
And then you have bitches like us who everyone's like,

812
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:33,860
are you guys sisters?

813
00:31:33,860 --> 00:31:35,820
(laughs)

814
00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:38,420
- Nope, just annoying in the same way.

815
00:31:38,420 --> 00:31:41,420
(dramatic music)

816
00:31:41,420 --> 00:31:45,740
- So Shana, what have you been up to?

817
00:31:45,740 --> 00:31:46,780
- Oh God.

818
00:31:46,780 --> 00:31:47,620
- Huh?

819
00:31:47,620 --> 00:31:52,100
- Working Valentine's Day.

820
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:55,380
Oh, Mike, you're wedding anniversary at Il.

821
00:31:55,380 --> 00:31:57,300
- Oh, I love.

822
00:31:57,300 --> 00:31:59,700
- My tenure wedding anniversary is this weekend.

823
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:00,540
So.

824
00:32:00,540 --> 00:32:01,380
- Oh, cute.

825
00:32:01,380 --> 00:32:02,220
- What are you guys gonna do?

826
00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:03,060
- Thank you.

827
00:32:03,060 --> 00:32:06,340
We have dinner reservations at this place called El by Rose.

828
00:32:06,340 --> 00:32:08,020
How perfect is that?

829
00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:08,860
- It is.

830
00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:09,700
- Yeah, I've never been,

831
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:12,820
but it's supposedly very delicious, fancy, mixed and food.

832
00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:14,900
And Scottsdale, Arizona.

833
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:18,300
- And then I think we're just gonna spend the weekend

834
00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:19,580
together watching movies.

835
00:32:19,580 --> 00:32:23,100
We have been rewatching every single Star Wars movie.

836
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:25,700
When I say we, I mean, me and my husband Andrew do

837
00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:27,260
in the sinners.

838
00:32:27,260 --> 00:32:29,220
- So we had a little back and forth.

839
00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:32,780
We couldn't decide if we wanted to rewatch all of them

840
00:32:32,780 --> 00:32:37,660
in chronological order, like episode 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,

841
00:32:37,660 --> 00:32:40,620
or if we wanted to do release date order.

842
00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:41,620
- Which would be.

843
00:32:41,620 --> 00:32:44,100
- 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9.

844
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:45,180
(laughs)

845
00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:46,180
So we ended up doing that.

846
00:32:46,180 --> 00:32:51,060
So we ended up, we watched all three, 1970s and 80s Star Wars.

847
00:32:51,060 --> 00:32:53,500
And then last night we watched Phantom Menace,

848
00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:54,500
which is,

849
00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:58,620
God, I watched this movie once before this.

850
00:32:58,620 --> 00:33:03,300
And it was in 1999 in a movie theater when I was 10 years old.

851
00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:05,020
- Yeah, I don't know if we're on to Melier.

852
00:33:05,020 --> 00:33:06,940
- Oh God, it's Anakin Skywalker.

853
00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:09,300
So it's the guy who grows up to be Darth Vader.

854
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:10,140
- Oh, yeah.

855
00:33:10,140 --> 00:33:11,060
- This is origin story.

856
00:33:11,060 --> 00:33:12,700
So it's Emma's a little kid.

857
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:15,140
There are some great spots in it.

858
00:33:15,140 --> 00:33:18,740
Like Iwem McGregor plays Obi-Wan Kenobi and he is amazing.

859
00:33:18,740 --> 00:33:22,420
Darth Maul is great, but the graphics and like charge our binks,

860
00:33:22,420 --> 00:33:24,180
I wanted to end it all.

861
00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:29,220
Yeah, I, me so I watched my life watching this movie.

862
00:33:29,220 --> 00:33:30,580
Like it was so bad.

863
00:33:30,580 --> 00:33:34,060
- I love that so much.

864
00:33:34,060 --> 00:33:35,980
- Yeah, so that's what we're up to.

865
00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:38,180
Watching Star Wars, enjoy our marriage.

866
00:33:38,180 --> 00:33:39,180
- Okay.

867
00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:40,020
How about you?

868
00:33:40,020 --> 00:33:41,260
(laughs)

869
00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:48,260
- So I said it was texting, "Chana, I am now by the end of the night.

870
00:33:48,260 --> 00:33:51,700
I am on 13 books in this year."

871
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:53,020
- I need to know all about this book

872
00:33:53,020 --> 00:33:54,980
that made you cry earlier.

873
00:33:54,980 --> 00:33:55,820
- Oh my God, yes.

874
00:33:55,820 --> 00:33:58,860
Dear listener, she sends me this snapshot of just,

875
00:33:58,860 --> 00:34:02,260
tears just running down her face.

876
00:34:02,260 --> 00:34:04,140
Like who are you?

877
00:34:04,140 --> 00:34:05,780
A book?

878
00:34:05,780 --> 00:34:06,620
A book?

879
00:34:06,620 --> 00:34:09,020
No, I was like, "Oh God, I'm crying."

880
00:34:09,020 --> 00:34:11,460
And we recorded in like 45 minutes of it.

881
00:34:11,460 --> 00:34:14,220
I had to redo all of my makeup.

882
00:34:14,220 --> 00:34:15,660
- You look amazing.

883
00:34:15,660 --> 00:34:19,580
You know, I had to pull my shit out from my bootstrap.

884
00:34:19,580 --> 00:34:22,780
So it's called the seven year slip.

885
00:34:22,780 --> 00:34:25,300
I have never read the author before.

886
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:30,300
It is, we see it each by Ashley Poston.

887
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,940
And it's actually like really, really cute.

888
00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:36,060
So it's a magical realism book.

889
00:34:36,060 --> 00:34:37,420
It's a romance book.

890
00:34:37,420 --> 00:34:39,140
I've been really into romance.

891
00:34:39,140 --> 00:34:42,340
I'm trying to trick myself into thinking I,

892
00:34:42,340 --> 00:34:44,380
I want a relationship right now.

893
00:34:44,380 --> 00:34:49,380
So you really just want to get dicked down by a fairy,

894
00:34:49,380 --> 00:34:52,700
a guy who was covered in shadows.

895
00:34:52,700 --> 00:34:54,740
- Yeah, well that's why I'm trying to read

896
00:34:54,740 --> 00:34:56,460
more real life romances.

897
00:34:56,460 --> 00:34:57,300
- Okay.

898
00:34:57,300 --> 00:34:59,580
- And sometimes I'm going to read more real life romances

899
00:34:59,580 --> 00:35:01,380
'cause I'm like, okay, I'm never gonna find

900
00:35:01,380 --> 00:35:04,500
a seven foot fey who's jacked out of his mind

901
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:08,380
and only wants me for me because I mean to him.

902
00:35:08,380 --> 00:35:11,620
Like that's just not gonna happen in the real world.

903
00:35:11,620 --> 00:35:15,820
So I need a grumpy sunshine, I'm the grumpy,

904
00:35:15,820 --> 00:35:19,220
they're the sunshine and exist in some sort of world.

905
00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:22,020
So it's magical realism where it's our world

906
00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:25,700
that there is like a light element of magic within it.

907
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:26,540
- Okay, I'm happy to know.

908
00:35:26,540 --> 00:35:28,300
- And to this book specifically,

909
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:31,180
it is called the seven year slip

910
00:35:31,180 --> 00:35:34,740
and it's this woman who is dealing with her ant

911
00:35:34,740 --> 00:35:35,620
who passed away.

912
00:35:35,620 --> 00:35:39,540
She inherits this apartment and this apartment is magic

913
00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:44,540
and it can basically sense her back seven years in time.

914
00:35:44,540 --> 00:35:47,820
And so it's called the seven year slip

915
00:35:47,820 --> 00:35:50,980
and it's absolutely beautiful.

916
00:35:50,980 --> 00:35:54,580
I was crying my eyes out because the ant

917
00:35:54,580 --> 00:35:58,220
on the lives herself and I've talked about it before in my ant.

918
00:35:58,220 --> 00:35:59,060
- Oh yeah.

919
00:35:59,060 --> 00:36:00,860
- And it's very similar to my ant.

920
00:36:00,860 --> 00:36:03,020
So it was like, oh my God.

921
00:36:03,020 --> 00:36:04,540
- Oh my God, I'm so happy.

922
00:36:04,540 --> 00:36:06,380
- Oh my God, but it is beautiful.

923
00:36:06,380 --> 00:36:07,820
I started it last night.

924
00:36:07,820 --> 00:36:08,820
I'm almost done.

925
00:36:08,820 --> 00:36:10,180
- Jesus, I'm gorgeous.

926
00:36:10,180 --> 00:36:11,580
- I am.

927
00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:13,460
- You sleep.

928
00:36:13,460 --> 00:36:17,460
- I do sleep, but I'm alone in a new city.

929
00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:18,940
I don't have a relationship.

930
00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:22,460
Like I, you know, like I have so much time.

931
00:36:22,460 --> 00:36:23,620
- Yeah, that's fair.

932
00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:26,780
- In like people in my life who are like married

933
00:36:26,780 --> 00:36:28,700
and have children, they're like, how do you read so much?

934
00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:31,700
And I was like, because I don't have person

935
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:34,020
or a little person to take care of.

936
00:36:34,020 --> 00:36:34,860
I just come to you.

937
00:36:34,860 --> 00:36:36,140
- I'll come to you a little person to take care of.

938
00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:37,460
- You can be my little person.

939
00:36:37,460 --> 00:36:40,220
You can be my person anytime, anytime, honey.

940
00:36:40,220 --> 00:36:41,500
- Thanks, mummy.

941
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:42,340
- Yes.

942
00:36:42,340 --> 00:36:43,180
(laughs)

943
00:36:43,180 --> 00:36:45,340
So I've just been reading with a porosity,

944
00:36:45,340 --> 00:36:47,140
but it's really, really good.

945
00:36:47,140 --> 00:36:51,100
I also had read, I think this will be my seventh book

946
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:52,100
that in February.

947
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:54,180
So I've been month crazy in February.

948
00:36:54,180 --> 00:36:56,780
I've been reading a lot of MLA Henry,

949
00:36:56,780 --> 00:37:00,740
which is like very low stakes real life romance book.

950
00:37:00,740 --> 00:37:01,820
- Okay.

951
00:37:01,820 --> 00:37:02,820
- And just absolutely loving it.

952
00:37:02,820 --> 00:37:07,020
However, I also watched the first two episodes

953
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:08,580
of White Lotus.

954
00:37:08,580 --> 00:37:09,420
So good.

955
00:37:09,420 --> 00:37:10,260
You need to watch it.

956
00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:11,820
- Is it good this season?

957
00:37:11,820 --> 00:37:12,660
- Yes.

958
00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:14,540
- I haven't even watched these two.

959
00:37:14,540 --> 00:37:16,900
- They change, you don't have to, they're all separate.

960
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:17,740
- Yeah.

961
00:37:17,740 --> 00:37:21,820
- So the intro song, they changed it.

962
00:37:21,820 --> 00:37:22,780
I'm pissed about it.

963
00:37:22,780 --> 00:37:24,540
- I did see a lot of people in social media

964
00:37:24,540 --> 00:37:26,700
were upset that they changed the song.

965
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:28,700
I don't know why they would do that.

966
00:37:28,700 --> 00:37:29,740
- It's iconic.

967
00:37:29,740 --> 00:37:30,660
Everybody loves it.

968
00:37:30,660 --> 00:37:32,540
They didn't change it for season two.

969
00:37:32,540 --> 00:37:34,740
I don't know why they changed it for season three.

970
00:37:34,740 --> 00:37:36,380
- If you have a theme song like that,

971
00:37:36,380 --> 00:37:37,860
it's like Game of Thrones.

972
00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:39,300
They ran with the theme song,

973
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:40,620
even into House of the Dragon.

974
00:37:40,620 --> 00:37:42,660
They're like, oh, you want this banger banger?

975
00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:43,820
♪ Bang, bang, bang ♪

976
00:37:43,820 --> 00:37:45,060
♪ Bang, bang, bang ♪

977
00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:46,820
♪ We got this ♪ - Peter D. - It's Peter D.

978
00:37:46,820 --> 00:37:49,900
- It's Peter D. - Yeah, exactly.

979
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:51,140
They shouldn't have changed it.

980
00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:52,220
So that's kind of annoying.

981
00:37:52,220 --> 00:37:53,820
I am really liking the season.

982
00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:55,460
My mom called me yesterday and was like,

983
00:37:55,460 --> 00:37:56,580
"Have you watched White Lotus?"

984
00:37:56,580 --> 00:38:00,300
Yeah, so even my mom is in on it.

985
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:02,060
She's like, "Hell yeah, this is so good."

986
00:38:02,060 --> 00:38:03,380
- I gotta get in on it.

987
00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:04,220
I gotta start.

988
00:38:04,220 --> 00:38:05,140
- But definitely,

989
00:38:05,140 --> 00:38:07,940
would pop seven year slip and...

990
00:38:07,940 --> 00:38:10,300
- White Lotus.

991
00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:13,500
- And I'm gonna pop Star Wars in general.

992
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:15,900
And next level chef with Gordon Ramsay

993
00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:19,580
because it is back for New Season, and we love that show.

994
00:38:19,580 --> 00:38:24,380
- Yeah, and Reeves is the fanfic episode

995
00:38:24,380 --> 00:38:26,540
to know just how much we like Gordon Ramsay.

996
00:38:26,540 --> 00:38:29,340
- Oh God, he's so angry and thick.

997
00:38:29,340 --> 00:38:34,060
- He's a lamb sauce.

998
00:38:34,060 --> 00:38:36,100
- He's a lamb sauce.

999
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:37,700
- Give us some of that lamb sauce, Gordon.

1000
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:39,940
- Spaced me on your lamb sauce.

1001
00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:41,060
- On that note,

1002
00:38:41,060 --> 00:38:46,380
Shona, what's the best way for our future best friends

1003
00:38:46,380 --> 00:38:47,380
to find us?

1004
00:38:47,380 --> 00:38:49,900
- First of all, no new friends.

1005
00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:53,660
- But you can follow me just kidding.

1006
00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:55,060
- Only Patreon subscribers.

1007
00:38:55,060 --> 00:38:57,660
- Literally, Patreon subscribers, y'all can be my friend.

1008
00:38:57,660 --> 00:38:59,260
I don't do this shit for free.

1009
00:38:59,260 --> 00:39:00,100
- Anyway.

1010
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:00,940
(laughing)

1011
00:39:00,940 --> 00:39:01,780
- I do.

1012
00:39:01,780 --> 00:39:02,620
- I do.

1013
00:39:02,620 --> 00:39:03,460
- I do it just for free.

1014
00:39:03,460 --> 00:39:06,980
- Goodbye, we had social media though.

1015
00:39:06,980 --> 00:39:11,980
- @shaunatrinidad, S-H-A-U-N-A-T-R-I-N-I-D-A-D,

1016
00:39:11,980 --> 00:39:15,620
and that will be Instagram and threads.

1017
00:39:15,620 --> 00:39:19,580
- And you can find me, Olivia, on Instagram,

1018
00:39:19,580 --> 00:39:24,580
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1019
00:39:24,580 --> 00:39:28,260
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1020
00:39:28,260 --> 00:39:32,220
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1021
00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:34,140
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1022
00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:37,100
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1023
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:41,100
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1024
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:44,540
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1025
00:39:44,540 --> 00:39:46,940
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1026
00:39:46,940 --> 00:39:48,260
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1027
00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:49,940
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1028
00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:51,180
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1029
00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:55,380
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1030
00:39:55,380 --> 00:39:59,100
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1031
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:02,060
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1032
00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:07,060
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1033
00:40:07,060 --> 00:40:10,460
You might be able to see Shauna's unmentiables

1034
00:40:10,460 --> 00:40:12,700
at the beginning of this episode.

1035
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:14,500
- No, our producer noticed,

1036
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:17,500
I had a thong in the corner of my room.

1037
00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:20,000
(laughing)

1038
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,740
- I should just left it back there.

1039
00:40:22,740 --> 00:40:24,460
- I should've just left it.

1040
00:40:24,460 --> 00:40:25,900
- There was an Easter egg.

1041
00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:27,100
- There was an Easter egg.

1042
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:27,940
- See if you could,

1043
00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:29,540
there's a thong hidden in the background

1044
00:40:29,540 --> 00:40:31,300
of every Pop Culture Junkie episode.

1045
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:33,100
You guys see if you could find it.

1046
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:39,340
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1047
00:40:39,340 --> 00:40:41,700
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1048
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:46,300
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1049
00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:47,540
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1050
00:40:47,540 --> 00:40:48,540
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1051
00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:50,460
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1052
00:40:50,460 --> 00:40:55,140
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1053
00:40:55,140 --> 00:40:57,720
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1054
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:02,620
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1055
00:41:02,620 --> 00:41:05,980
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1056
00:41:05,980 --> 00:41:07,900
(upbeat music)

1057
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(upbeat music)

1058
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,480
(upbeat music)

1059
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♪ I need it bad, I need it bad ♪

