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And I just want to encourage man man that engage be there, be present and you can do it. You can.

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Well hello and welcome to the Stand Up Dude Podcast. What does 40 years of faithfully

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honoring God's calling in your life look like? Well today on the Stand Up Dude Podcast we have a

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guest with us who has done just that and has stories, so many stories to tell. We are really

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proud to have him on the show today and Tim, would you like to do the honors here? Shocking is a

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friend of mine. I know a friend of Tim's what? Yeah. Kurt Williams, hey man. Thanks for being here

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you guys. You are going to be blessed today man. This is a beautiful friend month for 35 years and I

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know nobody that really knows more about men, young men, fatherhood, the whole deal. So God bless

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you and thank you for being here my brother. Yeah we just happen to have you here in Nashville

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with us all the way from Houston. He's right here. So crazy. What a blessing. Glad to be here,

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guys. How can I jump in on this? I want to know your story. I want to know like 40 years is a long time.

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I'm going to be 42 next month. You've done something that is almost my entire life and that to me

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is amazing. I can barely remember to brush my teeth consistently for a whole week. So to do something

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like that and honor God and what he has called you to do, let's kind of give us your backstory there

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and then I want to just move into how did you end up in that ministry and what is that ministry?

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Well you know the boys that I work with now, I don't have any of the excuses they have. Many of them

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abused and neglected, molested horror stories but I don't have that. I mean I was raised in a

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tremendous Christian home, good godly parents but God gave us that thing called a free will. I'm not

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so sure why did that because I've got a brother and sister that I'm not yet sinned. I mean they're

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just wonderful godly kind of boring people but they're just faithful. Yeah. And man I was the one that

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decided I wanted to drive fast cars and chase the fast girls and all that. And so I ran away at 15,

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I began to humiliate my family and at 19 I did something that I had to run from. It was so serious

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and I came to Texas. I had no idea. Never been to Houston. I went from my hometown to Houston,

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Texas and in a few days I was arrested again and it was like I was like I'm not going to allow this

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but over you know the next few weeks I got involved in the oil field and in the oil field at that time

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we were working insane hours. I mean 14, 16 hours a day if you could work six days a week, seven days

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a week and the money was insane too. And one day a man in the middle of the night came up to me and

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said man you need some go fast. I was on unrefinery and he dumped this little white powder into my

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Coca-Cola. And man I worked the rest of that shift, went home and cleaned my place and you know I mean

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I was never been more productive. Yeah I never been. I was really succinct and everything I was doing.

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The next night he gave me some more but it was the third time before I asked him what it was

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and it was meth. And that began my three year addiction. And you know it took me down some dark

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paths around very dark people and it led me into the industry that was moving it into an area of

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Houston that Tim's very familiar with in the Montrose area of Houston. And we exploited the street

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kids to move product. And man this was something I'd always drawn lines and said I'll never go this far

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but then I went there and I'd draw another line I'd never do this and then I did it. And you can do

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all these things very successfully if you don't have a pray in mama. Can I get an amen? I mean I

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get wrecked when you do get a prayer in mama. Yeah eventually. I got this picture in my mind guys

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that there's this red phone on God's desk that when mama's pray snatches that phone. I'm on it you

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know. I mean he'll break your legs if she asks you to you know. I'm on it. I mean I had a prayer in

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mama that was not going to allow me to sense successfully. And you know crazy long story but making

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it short I finally got to the point where I couldn't live with me anymore. I already hated everybody

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including the girl I lived with and the people I hung with and what I was doing I was just miserable

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and I weighed 125 pounds man my teeth were loose. I was so nice. And men it just came a day when I

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said you know I can't do this anymore. And May 7th 1984 I surrendered. Now I think that you know

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speaking to men here it's not a religious move. It's coming into the end of your rope it's saying

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I surrender. And the thing that gets me about it is is that God gets ripped off every time this

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happens. Because he's willing to trade his life and beauty and everything for mine. He got to

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bat into the deal. And yet he takes that deal over and over and over again. And people watching this

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podcast may think well I mean he did that for you too. If you've come to Christ he's taken that deal.

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He's taken whatever you brought him in your mess and he's exchanged it for his life. I mean it's

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just such a crazy. Crazy. It's insane. So you know I just knew something was up. I knew God was

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calling me to something and I felt like I was going to boot camp. I ordered off for this navigators

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three year Bible study course and finished it in eight months. I mean I had nothing else to do. I'd

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lost all my friends. You know. I'd lose your teeth. Yeah and I was a mess and God was just pouring

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into me and I'd grown up. I'd graduated from a Christian Academy. I'd gone to church every day

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of my life it seemed like. And this is where you know Jim you and I have compared our testimonies.

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You know there's some really some close places there. Yes there is. But you know R.W. Shambok one of my

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favorite old dead preachers. Gaseous once said that it takes her real genius to make the gospel boring.

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The problem is we have a lot of geniuses. Wow that's so great. And I went to a church that

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it was dead is three o'clock in the morning. Yeah. And they portrayed the beauty of Jesus

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in a boring way. Yeah wow. Where if we took our Bible and we really made a movie about it it'd be

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beyond our rated. Yeah. This book about intrigue and betrayal and war and sexuality and all that and

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they could make it boring. Well they did. Yeah. And they lost me. Yeah. Because what I was doing on

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Saturday nights was a lot better than what was happening on Sunday mornings. Yeah. And I've made a

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vow to my kids that I will never introduce you to a place that makes the gospel boring. The boys

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that we work with. The gospel is always going to be alive. Tell them what you would. How do you

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work with boys? What do you do? Well you know I just a few months after I came to Christ now I was

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back out there on West Timer mantra. It was in Houston and November 9th 1984 coming up on 40 years.

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I've got a boy walking towards me. He's dressing all black. He turns and looks at me. It eyeballs me.

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He said what you got there and had some cards with my phone number on it. And he looked at it and

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dropped it on the pavement and just grounded into the dirt. And he said I don't need that. He said

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I need help because I'm 17 years old. I'm HIV positive. I'm a heroin addict and I'm getting sick.

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I need help. And he goes if you'll help me I'll do whatever you say but if you're going to hand me

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that piece of paper and walk away you can go to hell. Yeah. Wow. And it was an epiphany moment in my life.

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And I don't know if the Holy Spirit uses that kind of language but it sure came through. And that night

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I took him home. Sure. And he was the first. Later saw him come to Christ. But so many of the kids

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were working with were tricks. We're prostitutes off the streets. And so that was the birth of

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youth reach. And since then we've God's just added to it. Brought tremendous people in resources.

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And we're in two different states with campuses and God's just doing a great work. Yeah. So youth

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reach, youth reach Houston. And then there's youth reach Gulf Coast. Youth reach Gulf Coast. I

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always stumble because I know it's in Alabama. So it's around 70, 80 acres per place. One of them

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focuses on the 14 to 18 14 18 12 to 17 12 to 17 young young men obviously young boys or boys. And

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then the Alabama is ages 18 to 22 18 to 22. And so what kind of young men will end up at this place?

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We occasionally. It's occasionally get a boy with a good dad. But that's probably one out of a hundred.

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Okay. The vast majority its fatherlessness. They know him. He abandoned them. He's addicted himself.

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He's distant or he was the perpetrator. We have high security in Houston because there are

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fathers that make threats against the boys we have. Wow. Against their own sons. And so it's

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we've got boys that have come from all over the country. And I mean for the last few years,

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guys we've got a lot of failed adoptions. So we've got a boy from Guatemala, the Congo. We've had him

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from Ukraine rush all over the world. They literally just fell in the middle gap of No Man's Land.

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And they had to well somebody some Christian families go over and adopt these kids.

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Oh okay. Adopting you know a kid that's eight or nine that doesn't speak the language. I mean

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bring them over. They do not assimilate. And they drop them off to us and usually never come back.

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Incredible. Wow. So you've been doing this for 40 years. And one of the beautiful things that I

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know about you is you. Boy oh boy. You express yourself really well. And always wanted to ask you this.

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And I think now is the moment and we'll go from here to other things. But brother if you had a

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group of young men that were in front of you and you had a moment. He had five minutes to tell them

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about what they're actually looking for possibly. What do they actually need? What are the

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characteristics that you could recommend as a man who has been you've put almost 4,000 young men

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through your beautiful. And I hate I'm not going to call it a system. I just don't know what

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better word to use. What would you from from from all of the assessment there has to be some things

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that boil to the top of what you would tell these young men. Would you share that with us? Yeah. I

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mean I think that we need I mean the whole thing of the name of this podcast says so much. You know

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I mean just get up and you stand up man. You know. Yes. But I think that men need to know they can.

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They need to know they can that they can do it. I'm amazed watching some of my heroes. Men that

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they don't have they're not eloquent. They don't have all the tools. Maybe they don't have a

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high education and all that. But they have a depth of character. Most of them it's because

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Christ is in them that there's a humility and there's even when I look for staff. There's this

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beautiful mix. It's hard to even describe. But you know when you see it and confidence with humility.

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Most people think confidence means cocky. Hottie. But confidence with humility. And I'm going to

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tell you I asked my wife a while back. I said what do you think of that and she looked at me and she

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smiled and she said that's what women want. They want a man who's confident with humility. And

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that is, I mean, employers want it. Young younger men will follow it. When I bring in staff and I

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notice that kind of anointing of this bizarre confident guy knows who he is. But he doesn't walk

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with arrogance. No, no. He's teachable in his humble. It just that is that is a man a combination,

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a chemistry that when you say I'm going to adopt these principles because you look at Jesus

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and nobody's ever been more confident. Dude, he was God. He's walking on earth. I made that. I made that.

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I made that. Wow. You know, I mean, I that's, you know, he's just kind of walking around with that kind

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of confidence. You know, he's got to go on. Yeah. He's washing the feet. He's talking to, he's

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caring for the children. He's and he wasn't just going, okay, enough with you guys and just

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blowing us all away. And so if a man says I'm going to I'm going to work on my character.

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I'm going to work on who I am. And you know, I'm going to tell you this real quickly when one of the

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things we teach boys and you three is the three Ds. It's a very simple little thing that when somebody

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is busted, when you've done something wrong, when you've been caught, there's three, the three Ds

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is what men do. We deny. I didn't do it. We diminish. It wasn't that bad or we divert. Well,

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they did it too. And or how about disappear because they hide. That's what guys do. Exactly. Let me,

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let me go up to my man cave. And let me just or let me just walk away. Yeah. And I'm convinced that the

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mothering instinct is is a real thing. Mothers have an instinct that only six percent of children that

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are abandoned are abandoned by the mother. 94 percent are abandoned by the father. Wow. It's the

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fathering instinct. I don't believe it really exists. Men choose it. Women are born with it. It's just

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in them. But men can somehow compartmentalize and walk away. Yeah. Crazy. They choose it. What?

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They choose it. What does that look like? Well, I think that, you know, when a man has a child,

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and that little boy, that little girl is in his hands, there's something in his heart that's

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born out that says, I'm in no matter what. No matter what. Yeah. My wife and I, we feel like that the

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base of that is our marriage. And we've got a we've got a really sweet beautiful motto to our marriage.

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I want to hear it. Yes, please. There's no way out. So the agreement is is that if she decides to

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leave me, she has to give me enough time to pack and go with her. And I'll let her drive. And I'll

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sit in the passenger seat and talk bad about me the whole way. Yeah. You know, but we're I don't care.

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But we're but there's no way out. I'm still in the car. I'm in the car. I'm going with you. You know,

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and we've been through some dark times. But our kids have seen that man through thick and thin,

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hell or how water, mom and dad, they're going to be there for us. And we desperately need examples

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of covenant marriage in America because people aren't seeing it. People are not engaging in it. Yeah.

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And so that's and that's such a basis of a man being who he is as a husband and as a father.

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You're saying, I made a covenant. I made a vow. I'm going to keep it. I'm going to keep it no matter what.

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No, Kurt, you I think you may have mentioned it earlier, but you have several children yourself.

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Yes. How many? We only have seven. Only seven. Okay. Just getting started. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's

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impressive. They're amazing. Really impressive. By the way, that is a really cool. I mean, it and this is

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this is something that when I say it, it always gets, you know, people uncomfortable. But I think that in

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America today, most Christians that are truly born again, not just the cultural Christian, but the

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truly the remnant, the leader born again, they have given their lives on the altar to God. And now I

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think that the next thing one of the next struggles is, do we give our finances? Are we going to tie

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then are we going to give offerings? And there's a point of surrender there. But so few

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surrendered their reproductive choices to God. I hear people say, well, we're going to have as many

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as we can afford. Well, my wife and I had as many as God could afford. And every time we had a child,

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we'd say, God, what do you want us to do? Sub to you. And seven times, he said, go ahead. And after that,

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it was very clear, he said, you're done. And my wife was disappointed, guys. She only wanted 10 more.

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I was like, at point you got at some point, the planes got a land, you know? Oh my goodness. I've got seven

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and man, we don't have any issues with our kids at all. And that sounds crazy to even say, but there's

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no addictions. They honor God. They chase the Lord. I'm here in Nashville with my son, Josiah, who's

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just had my first grandson and to watch your son. Tim, it's coming for you. But when you see your son,

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I've told people, you don't know how good a parent you were until you see your kids parent.

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That's the revealer of how you did. When you explained about, I said, I called you last night,

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said, hey man, what's going on? You're like, I'm watching my son carry his two-day-year-old son

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in his loving, gracious arms, being so tender and present to his wife and to his baby.

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I'm wrecked. But we live in a society where some men can just clock out. And I just want to encourage

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me and man to engage, be there, be present. And you can do it. You can. It is hard, but it is not

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impossible. And with the Lord's strength, it's entirely achievable. I have three. And I know the

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temptation is I want to do something else that's easy. And it really comes down to that choosing to do

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the hard thing. It's just like any other good thing in your life, whether it's being physically fit,

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whether it's accomplishing something as a career goal or sports or anything. If you don't see your

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children as something that you have a responsibility to grow and shape and mature,

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and instead they're just like, "Oh, yeah, they're their own thing." They'll figure it out.

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You're leaving money on the tables that will speak. You're allowing

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just whatever comes along to take them. Instead of seeing, I have this opportunity to shape

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possibly their impact on millions of people over centuries of the gospel going forth. And

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what is that statistic? Do you know the one that's like when the grandfather, well, first of all,

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when the father comes to Christ in a home, it is more likely that everyone in the family comes to

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Christ and that they come to church. The impact that often has is that those kids grow up and have

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kids who come to Christ. But when that father doesn't come to Christ, it completely sets it back

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for generations. Absolutely. And the Lord is faithful. He can do incredible things to transform lives

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and redeem the most obviously with the stories you've even just shared a little bit of. He can do

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incredible things to redeem broken situations. But I know with Stand Up Dude, our goal, our aim,

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is to impact men, young and old, not to feel like we are targeting young men or only older men.

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It's like God is ready for you right where you are. Age for him truly is just a number. He's like

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today is the day of salvation. Right now is the time that you can give it over. You can be redeemed.

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I know I've rambled on here just a little bit, but you inspired me. I do really believe that,

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I've got a buddy that always says, if you can still fog a mirror, you still got something left.

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And my father was, when he was 88 years old, his legs had given out and he just looked at me and he

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goes, son, I can't do what I used to do. But I can make phone calls. He goes, and the church just gave

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me a list of people that need to be encouraged. And I just thought, man, here you are. You know, you

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got every excuse just to stare at a TV till your clock runs out. And he's like looking at one more

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thing he can do. And at one point he told me, because you know, part of the reason is, I want to go

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home to be with the Lord. And if there's something left, I want to get it done. So he was just trying to

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finish. But I don't want men to live with regrets. Now, I think regrets are crippling. And God is such a

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God of redemption. I mean, guys, if you really want to get down to it and use a strange vernacular

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to describe our God, he's a show off. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, through the Bible, he could have used the smart

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ones, but he consistently used the jacked up messed up black sheep murderers, adulterers, cowards like

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giddy and I mean, just all in and all in and all. And so anybody that wants to say, well, I don't know,

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you don't know about me. Shut up. Yeah. You know, if you fog a mirror, you qualify, jump in, do your part.

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I love how the when David, first of all, David is my favorite Bible character. But first of all,

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he was a great sinner. He was a great sinner, but he was also a great repenter. And he said that

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that man right there is as a man after my own heart, like what? That's God. That's God talking right

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there. And what I love about David is he did it continually in his life. But the first story that we

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find is where he was called forward to meet Goliath. And what David did that was very unique is David

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showed up. And then what remind me of that is when you said, show it off because when we show up,

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it allows God a beautiful opportunity on a life to show off. That's good. And that's what David did.

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Sure, he'd practice some, keeping the wolves away from the sheep with the sling. And it's not like

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he automatically just became the most brilliant stone caster. But at the end of the day, he let that

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thing go. And it went exactly, it was directed by the Lord because he showed off. He showed up in the

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Lord showed off. But man, I think that the three D's, I think you maybe should change it to the

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four D's, bro, disappear. Yeah. So don't disappear when challenges are presented to you.

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Don't disappear when there's an opportunity to stand and be present to not to not shrink back,

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to not be constricted by your limiting beliefs and limiting thoughts that that God's not going to do

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this. I can't do that. So I might as well just just sit here and and shut my mouth. But instead,

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to be present and loving, here's what happens is when you when you're in God's presence,

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that's where the change happens. So you do that beforehand. Start your morning out with being in

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God's presence. Start your morning out with being in God's word. It fills you up in and the light

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enters your eyes and you will find that you are able to be present in those moments and allow God

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to show off. You don't have to force that. You don't have to you don't you barely even, man,

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I don't even need to pray about it or pray for it. It just happens when when when you're filled with

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the spirit like that. The current you've you you have seen so many so many lives changed. I can't

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imagine really honestly the amount of challenges that you have been brought continually to your

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literal doorstep. And I know that you've you the Kurt loves telling about the the success stories

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that has come through there. And I love that. Tell me though, what is what is one of your favorite

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stories of somebody who has come that they were probably the lowest that you've ever seen.

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And tell me what the Lord's done with with this with this young man who probably came to you and

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his young. Yeah, that would probably one of the greatest stories would be a young man named

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Brett Madeline from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Yeah. I'm hungry. Come from a home that was just a living

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hell. I'd met him at a youth camp sitting on the back row with a hair done in his face and didn't

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want to talk to me. Weeks months go by and he calls. She's meant I need help. And he came in a lot of

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anger went to a lot of work with him. And he was with us almost two years daily. You're it's a

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live in. He's a live. He's a live. He's a live in situation. So he's living with us in our in our homes

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there and working with him and toward the end. He told me that God had told him. And when I leave here

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I'm to go to the LA base of youth of the mission. And I thought well then you got some direction.

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Well a month or two goes by. He leaves the program and he doesn't go there. He's disobedient. After hearing

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the voice of God. Now we got a lot of authority out there. They'll spank you and he did. I mean Brett and

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within no time was fighting addictions again. Very angry hurt. And we met at a hamburger joint. He

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just looked at me and said, man, I got to go back and do what I was told to do. Yeah. And he went to

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the base in LA. And after that his mission trip took him to Cambodia. He spent eight weeks there

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came back sold everything he had went over there with a little duffel bag. Went to language school,

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learned a very difficult, non-finatic language. Then he learns to drill water wells. And he has drilled

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he's coming up on a thousand probably by the end of the year. He will drill his thousands

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water well. Gosh. In a country where children die by the thousands from dirty water. Yeah 60%

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die before the three years old. And Christianity is not yet 1%. And you know we go to bed every night.

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And we sleep peacefully. But should we win there are countries that less than one person

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loses? Less than one piece. Yeah. You know what's not even on the list of the three yet. They're not

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even on the list of religions that are established there. And so what he's doing is it's illegal for

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three Christians to gather together. Okay. It's the oppression of the government's unreal. But last year

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he became one of the very few Americans to ever be gifted Cambodian citizenship. Oh. He was

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sponsored in by the son of the prime minister. Cool. Wow. And so now he comes and goes through the

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airport. It's like a citizen. And it's not I mean and he's spreading the gospel every school they go

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into. Wow. That they drill a water well. They're sharing the gospel to hundreds of kids and the

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government looks the other way. Uh huh. Because of the water wells. Yeah. They go over there as a

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missionary. They chase you off. Oh yeah. And I've been over there six times to visit with. Yeah.

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And to see the poverty and the pain and but then to watch that water well. Yeah. Push that water

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out in the children playing in the water. Clean water for the first time in their lives. So what do

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you think made the difference? First let me tell you what happens. Just paraphrase of what what

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he does. He made these young men come in there and he teaches them discipline. He teaches them.

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Now I want to just cast over that. Literally he teaches them discipline and he teaches them

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responsibility and and that there is results for their actions. You probably have a couple more

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things but those are the things that I know and and they don't let off. Now they're not task masters

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but they are there. They're there. And I believe they can leave if they wanted to. I think take off.

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See what I'm saying? So these men are being young men are being fed something that they deeply

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desire but they didn't know how to ask for it. And I just love how you just stayed with that and

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that you've answered those those questions that they don't even know how to ask yet. I just love that.

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Yeah. I think that Tim one of the things that shakes a lot of evangelical

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Christians up what is when I say they God gifted me with a cold heart. Because I love working with

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the kids that want it. But the ones that come in and try to destroy the plays we want to run the show.

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I can put a 14 year old out in a cold rain and go home and sleep like a baby. Because our success rate

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doubles when they come back the second time. When they realize these people ain't playing. They'll

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put me under bridge. You know and so people ask me all the time how many boys run from here. I know

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it never happens because they had to work hard to get here. They had to convince us that they're worth

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God's money in our time. Okay. And when they come in they know that there's a waiting list of boys

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snapping at their heels. They won't that bed there. Yeah. And you one of your amazing stories. I've

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presumed that it's still true if it's not. It's okay. But I know that there's no charge for these young

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men. So my brother here is not only the preacher and the dad to thousands of young men. He's also the

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the go between for the financial provision. He prays. He tells the story and God's people give. So

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he may not say this, but I'm sure going to if there are there are men out there. He would, but I'm

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just going to help them that there's men out there with dads. Maybe you haven't contacted your boy

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in a long time. But what some of the things that have drawn you here that God's doing in your life

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has drawn you enough far now to meet to hear this podcast and know that you can still help your

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son. There's a lot of things you can do. One of them might be that you walk him into into you

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three. And you can be involved there. I presume is on weekends and this and that. But boy, what a rescue.

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You may not have the the gifts and the skills yourself, but you three does because they stay and

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they stand firm in the truth. And that's what again, the question that they that the young men may not be

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asking enough to know to ask for, but they're speaking truth to them. And man, their soul just eats it up

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because it's truth. We'll give you the websites. There's one in Alabama. There's one in Texas.

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Also another thing he may not mention. Well, he did the book. We want to put it here as well. White

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knuckle parenting. One of the things I loved there and maybe we'll go out with this is that there's

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how to parent all kind of different personalities of children that you have. But the one that popped off

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the the page for me is that when he described that this will also help the parents that have been

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blessed. And I don't think you just use that word cheeky, but they were blessed to have a strong

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willed child. What would you speak to to that to the parents as well as if you could speak to the

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strong willed young man that's also out there? Yeah, I mean that that whole thing got coined by James

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Thompson years ago. And he he made the comment that there's two types of kids. There's that a compliant

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child. And there they grow up to be a good employee, loyal friends, great worker bees. And then he says

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if you can raise the strong will child. So he's kind of saying if you don't drown them or something.

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Yeah, I'm a good. But he says that they grow up to be the entrepreneurs. Yeah, man. The risk

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takers. We'll talk to most most presidents of the United States started out. No, Mama pulling their

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hair. I was loved when it's you know, blessed to be a strong willed like yes, that one. We've got a

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sign at you three. It says we don't want to tame you. We want to aim you. I like to take that wild heart.

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Yes, sir. Wanted in the right direction. And guys, I don't know if we're going to complete the

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great commission with our church kids because most church parents are raising them to pursue the

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American dream. Yeah, not great commission. Man. So when we get these boys in, they running from the

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law, send me to Cambodia where I can stay one step ahead of the law. You know, they want to go and they

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want to do damage to the kingdom of darkness. They want to advance the kingdom of light. And you

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know, they're they're wild. I mean, we had a boy that stole a police car. The cop left it running.

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Went in to get a cup of coffee and it's gone. And this little kid tore that car up. They had to

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spike strip their own tires. I think that's my favorite kid right there. You know, what's that young man?

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But we've had him. We've had arsonists that have burned their school down. I asked the boy,

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why'd you do that? I didn't want to go to school. I go, well, there's better ways to do it.

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The barge school down, you know, I was that well, neither do I. But we shouldn't do that part.

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Yeah. But when you when you have a boy that will run from the cops, a boy that will, you know,

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burn his school, fight the police when they come after him. Man, when they come to Christ,

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you're not going to put a cute little robot on him in a him book and say, sing in our choir.

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Thank God. You know, they are not going to be feminized. They want to know how to be a man.

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How do I aim this thing that God gave me? I mean, I am. Today still a strong will child.

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If you tell me to sit down, I might, but inside I'm standing up. You know, I wouldn't know why.

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I love it. Tell me, prove it to me. And that so much, we just want to, we want to tame him. We want

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to beat him down. Love it. And man, you got to set him free. Just, you know, every time somebody calls

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us on the phone and the phone gets passed to me and there's this mom telling this terrible story about

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and all I can think is I can't wait to meet him. That sounds like my kind of kid, you know, just

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spit and fire. Man, I want that one, you know. And man, we, we take them on long runs where first

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men they're throwing up in the grass. But man, we teach a man that a man is a man of discipline.

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There are too many 30, 40, 50, 60 year old boys walking around. We need them to grow up and be man.

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And we'd also love to know remember where you were. I just want to say look, hey, if you've been

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praise God, we'd love to hear about that man. And we're gonna, we're gonna, like you said,

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information and hopefully get connected with the resources that you need. All right, well, thank

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you guys so much for tuning in to this episode of the Stand Up Dude podcast. I am Stuart White

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and along with my host, I'm still Tim Bessonio. And this has been the Stand Up Dude podcast. So

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tune in next time. Yes sir. Thank you Kurt. Thank you. I appreciate it.

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Damn broken. Time to go home. Go home.

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