And I just want to encourage man man that engage be there, be present and you can do it. You can.
Well hello and welcome to the Stand Up Dude Podcast. What does 40 years of faithfully
honoring God's calling in your life look like? Well today on the Stand Up Dude Podcast we have a
guest with us who has done just that and has stories, so many stories to tell. We are really
proud to have him on the show today and Tim, would you like to do the honors here? Shocking is a
friend of mine. I know a friend of Tim's what? Yeah. Kurt Williams, hey man. Thanks for being here
you guys. You are going to be blessed today man. This is a beautiful friend month for 35 years and I
know nobody that really knows more about men, young men, fatherhood, the whole deal. So God bless
you and thank you for being here my brother. Yeah we just happen to have you here in Nashville
with us all the way from Houston. He's right here. So crazy. What a blessing. Glad to be here,
guys. How can I jump in on this? I want to know your story. I want to know like 40 years is a long time.
I'm going to be 42 next month. You've done something that is almost my entire life and that to me
is amazing. I can barely remember to brush my teeth consistently for a whole week. So to do something
like that and honor God and what he has called you to do, let's kind of give us your backstory there
and then I want to just move into how did you end up in that ministry and what is that ministry?
Well you know the boys that I work with now, I don't have any of the excuses they have. Many of them
abused and neglected, molested horror stories but I don't have that. I mean I was raised in a
tremendous Christian home, good godly parents but God gave us that thing called a free will. I'm not
so sure why did that because I've got a brother and sister that I'm not yet sinned. I mean they're
just wonderful godly kind of boring people but they're just faithful. Yeah. And man I was the one that
decided I wanted to drive fast cars and chase the fast girls and all that. And so I ran away at 15,
I began to humiliate my family and at 19 I did something that I had to run from. It was so serious
and I came to Texas. I had no idea. Never been to Houston. I went from my hometown to Houston,
Texas and in a few days I was arrested again and it was like I was like I'm not going to allow this
but over you know the next few weeks I got involved in the oil field and in the oil field at that time
we were working insane hours. I mean 14, 16 hours a day if you could work six days a week, seven days
a week and the money was insane too. And one day a man in the middle of the night came up to me and
said man you need some go fast. I was on unrefinery and he dumped this little white powder into my
Coca-Cola. And man I worked the rest of that shift, went home and cleaned my place and you know I mean
I was never been more productive. Yeah I never been. I was really succinct and everything I was doing.
The next night he gave me some more but it was the third time before I asked him what it was
and it was meth. And that began my three year addiction. And you know it took me down some dark
paths around very dark people and it led me into the industry that was moving it into an area of
Houston that Tim's very familiar with in the Montrose area of Houston. And we exploited the street
kids to move product. And man this was something I'd always drawn lines and said I'll never go this far
but then I went there and I'd draw another line I'd never do this and then I did it. And you can do
all these things very successfully if you don't have a pray in mama. Can I get an amen? I mean I
get wrecked when you do get a prayer in mama. Yeah eventually. I got this picture in my mind guys
that there's this red phone on God's desk that when mama's pray snatches that phone. I'm on it you
know. I mean he'll break your legs if she asks you to you know. I'm on it. I mean I had a prayer in
mama that was not going to allow me to sense successfully. And you know crazy long story but making
it short I finally got to the point where I couldn't live with me anymore. I already hated everybody
including the girl I lived with and the people I hung with and what I was doing I was just miserable
and I weighed 125 pounds man my teeth were loose. I was so nice. And men it just came a day when I
said you know I can't do this anymore. And May 7th 1984 I surrendered. Now I think that you know
speaking to men here it's not a religious move. It's coming into the end of your rope it's saying
I surrender. And the thing that gets me about it is is that God gets ripped off every time this
happens. Because he's willing to trade his life and beauty and everything for mine. He got to
bat into the deal. And yet he takes that deal over and over and over again. And people watching this
podcast may think well I mean he did that for you too. If you've come to Christ he's taken that deal.
He's taken whatever you brought him in your mess and he's exchanged it for his life. I mean it's
just such a crazy. Crazy. It's insane. So you know I just knew something was up. I knew God was
calling me to something and I felt like I was going to boot camp. I ordered off for this navigators
three year Bible study course and finished it in eight months. I mean I had nothing else to do. I'd
lost all my friends. You know. I'd lose your teeth. Yeah and I was a mess and God was just pouring
into me and I'd grown up. I'd graduated from a Christian Academy. I'd gone to church every day
of my life it seemed like. And this is where you know Jim you and I have compared our testimonies.
You know there's some really some close places there. Yes there is. But you know R.W. Shambok one of my
favorite old dead preachers. Gaseous once said that it takes her real genius to make the gospel boring.
The problem is we have a lot of geniuses. Wow that's so great. And I went to a church that
it was dead is three o'clock in the morning. Yeah. And they portrayed the beauty of Jesus
in a boring way. Yeah wow. Where if we took our Bible and we really made a movie about it it'd be
beyond our rated. Yeah. This book about intrigue and betrayal and war and sexuality and all that and
they could make it boring. Well they did. Yeah. And they lost me. Yeah. Because what I was doing on
Saturday nights was a lot better than what was happening on Sunday mornings. Yeah. And I've made a
vow to my kids that I will never introduce you to a place that makes the gospel boring. The boys
that we work with. The gospel is always going to be alive. Tell them what you would. How do you
work with boys? What do you do? Well you know I just a few months after I came to Christ now I was
back out there on West Timer mantra. It was in Houston and November 9th 1984 coming up on 40 years.
I've got a boy walking towards me. He's dressing all black. He turns and looks at me. It eyeballs me.
He said what you got there and had some cards with my phone number on it. And he looked at it and
dropped it on the pavement and just grounded into the dirt. And he said I don't need that. He said
I need help because I'm 17 years old. I'm HIV positive. I'm a heroin addict and I'm getting sick.
I need help. And he goes if you'll help me I'll do whatever you say but if you're going to hand me
that piece of paper and walk away you can go to hell. Yeah. Wow. And it was an epiphany moment in my life.
And I don't know if the Holy Spirit uses that kind of language but it sure came through. And that night
I took him home. Sure. And he was the first. Later saw him come to Christ. But so many of the kids
were working with were tricks. We're prostitutes off the streets. And so that was the birth of
youth reach. And since then we've God's just added to it. Brought tremendous people in resources.
And we're in two different states with campuses and God's just doing a great work. Yeah. So youth
reach, youth reach Houston. And then there's youth reach Gulf Coast. Youth reach Gulf Coast. I
always stumble because I know it's in Alabama. So it's around 70, 80 acres per place. One of them
focuses on the 14 to 18 14 18 12 to 17 12 to 17 young young men obviously young boys or boys. And
then the Alabama is ages 18 to 22 18 to 22. And so what kind of young men will end up at this place?
We occasionally. It's occasionally get a boy with a good dad. But that's probably one out of a hundred.
Okay. The vast majority its fatherlessness. They know him. He abandoned them. He's addicted himself.
He's distant or he was the perpetrator. We have high security in Houston because there are
fathers that make threats against the boys we have. Wow. Against their own sons. And so it's
we've got boys that have come from all over the country. And I mean for the last few years,
guys we've got a lot of failed adoptions. So we've got a boy from Guatemala, the Congo. We've had him
from Ukraine rush all over the world. They literally just fell in the middle gap of No Man's Land.
And they had to well somebody some Christian families go over and adopt these kids.
Oh okay. Adopting you know a kid that's eight or nine that doesn't speak the language. I mean
bring them over. They do not assimilate. And they drop them off to us and usually never come back.
Incredible. Wow. So you've been doing this for 40 years. And one of the beautiful things that I
know about you is you. Boy oh boy. You express yourself really well. And always wanted to ask you this.
And I think now is the moment and we'll go from here to other things. But brother if you had a
group of young men that were in front of you and you had a moment. He had five minutes to tell them
about what they're actually looking for possibly. What do they actually need? What are the
characteristics that you could recommend as a man who has been you've put almost 4,000 young men
through your beautiful. And I hate I'm not going to call it a system. I just don't know what
better word to use. What would you from from from all of the assessment there has to be some things
that boil to the top of what you would tell these young men. Would you share that with us? Yeah. I
mean I think that we need I mean the whole thing of the name of this podcast says so much. You know
I mean just get up and you stand up man. You know. Yes. But I think that men need to know they can.
They need to know they can that they can do it. I'm amazed watching some of my heroes. Men that
they don't have they're not eloquent. They don't have all the tools. Maybe they don't have a
high education and all that. But they have a depth of character. Most of them it's because
Christ is in them that there's a humility and there's even when I look for staff. There's this
beautiful mix. It's hard to even describe. But you know when you see it and confidence with humility.
Most people think confidence means cocky. Hottie. But confidence with humility. And I'm going to
tell you I asked my wife a while back. I said what do you think of that and she looked at me and she
smiled and she said that's what women want. They want a man who's confident with humility. And
that is, I mean, employers want it. Young younger men will follow it. When I bring in staff and I
notice that kind of anointing of this bizarre confident guy knows who he is. But he doesn't walk
with arrogance. No, no. He's teachable in his humble. It just that is that is a man a combination,
a chemistry that when you say I'm going to adopt these principles because you look at Jesus
and nobody's ever been more confident. Dude, he was God. He's walking on earth. I made that. I made that.
I made that. Wow. You know, I mean, I that's, you know, he's just kind of walking around with that kind
of confidence. You know, he's got to go on. Yeah. He's washing the feet. He's talking to, he's
caring for the children. He's and he wasn't just going, okay, enough with you guys and just
blowing us all away. And so if a man says I'm going to I'm going to work on my character.
I'm going to work on who I am. And you know, I'm going to tell you this real quickly when one of the
things we teach boys and you three is the three Ds. It's a very simple little thing that when somebody
is busted, when you've done something wrong, when you've been caught, there's three, the three Ds
is what men do. We deny. I didn't do it. We diminish. It wasn't that bad or we divert. Well,
they did it too. And or how about disappear because they hide. That's what guys do. Exactly. Let me,
let me go up to my man cave. And let me just or let me just walk away. Yeah. And I'm convinced that the
mothering instinct is is a real thing. Mothers have an instinct that only six percent of children that
are abandoned are abandoned by the mother. 94 percent are abandoned by the father. Wow. It's the
fathering instinct. I don't believe it really exists. Men choose it. Women are born with it. It's just
in them. But men can somehow compartmentalize and walk away. Yeah. Crazy. They choose it. What?
They choose it. What does that look like? Well, I think that, you know, when a man has a child,
and that little boy, that little girl is in his hands, there's something in his heart that's
born out that says, I'm in no matter what. No matter what. Yeah. My wife and I, we feel like that the
base of that is our marriage. And we've got a we've got a really sweet beautiful motto to our marriage.
I want to hear it. Yes, please. There's no way out. So the agreement is is that if she decides to
leave me, she has to give me enough time to pack and go with her. And I'll let her drive. And I'll
sit in the passenger seat and talk bad about me the whole way. Yeah. You know, but we're I don't care.
But we're but there's no way out. I'm still in the car. I'm in the car. I'm going with you. You know,
and we've been through some dark times. But our kids have seen that man through thick and thin,
hell or how water, mom and dad, they're going to be there for us. And we desperately need examples
of covenant marriage in America because people aren't seeing it. People are not engaging in it. Yeah.
And so that's and that's such a basis of a man being who he is as a husband and as a father.
You're saying, I made a covenant. I made a vow. I'm going to keep it. I'm going to keep it no matter what.
No, Kurt, you I think you may have mentioned it earlier, but you have several children yourself.
Yes. How many? We only have seven. Only seven. Okay. Just getting started. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's
impressive. They're amazing. Really impressive. By the way, that is a really cool. I mean, it and this is
this is something that when I say it, it always gets, you know, people uncomfortable. But I think that in
America today, most Christians that are truly born again, not just the cultural Christian, but the
truly the remnant, the leader born again, they have given their lives on the altar to God. And now I
think that the next thing one of the next struggles is, do we give our finances? Are we going to tie
then are we going to give offerings? And there's a point of surrender there. But so few
surrendered their reproductive choices to God. I hear people say, well, we're going to have as many
as we can afford. Well, my wife and I had as many as God could afford. And every time we had a child,
we'd say, God, what do you want us to do? Sub to you. And seven times, he said, go ahead. And after that,
it was very clear, he said, you're done. And my wife was disappointed, guys. She only wanted 10 more.
I was like, at point you got at some point, the planes got a land, you know? Oh my goodness. I've got seven
and man, we don't have any issues with our kids at all. And that sounds crazy to even say, but there's
no addictions. They honor God. They chase the Lord. I'm here in Nashville with my son, Josiah, who's
just had my first grandson and to watch your son. Tim, it's coming for you. But when you see your son,
I've told people, you don't know how good a parent you were until you see your kids parent.
That's the revealer of how you did. When you explained about, I said, I called you last night,
said, hey man, what's going on? You're like, I'm watching my son carry his two-day-year-old son
in his loving, gracious arms, being so tender and present to his wife and to his baby.
I'm wrecked. But we live in a society where some men can just clock out. And I just want to encourage
me and man to engage, be there, be present. And you can do it. You can. It is hard, but it is not
impossible. And with the Lord's strength, it's entirely achievable. I have three. And I know the
temptation is I want to do something else that's easy. And it really comes down to that choosing to do
the hard thing. It's just like any other good thing in your life, whether it's being physically fit,
whether it's accomplishing something as a career goal or sports or anything. If you don't see your
children as something that you have a responsibility to grow and shape and mature,
and instead they're just like, "Oh, yeah, they're their own thing." They'll figure it out.
You're leaving money on the tables that will speak. You're allowing
just whatever comes along to take them. Instead of seeing, I have this opportunity to shape
possibly their impact on millions of people over centuries of the gospel going forth. And
what is that statistic? Do you know the one that's like when the grandfather, well, first of all,
when the father comes to Christ in a home, it is more likely that everyone in the family comes to
Christ and that they come to church. The impact that often has is that those kids grow up and have
kids who come to Christ. But when that father doesn't come to Christ, it completely sets it back
for generations. Absolutely. And the Lord is faithful. He can do incredible things to transform lives
and redeem the most obviously with the stories you've even just shared a little bit of. He can do
incredible things to redeem broken situations. But I know with Stand Up Dude, our goal, our aim,
is to impact men, young and old, not to feel like we are targeting young men or only older men.
It's like God is ready for you right where you are. Age for him truly is just a number. He's like
today is the day of salvation. Right now is the time that you can give it over. You can be redeemed.
I know I've rambled on here just a little bit, but you inspired me. I do really believe that,
I've got a buddy that always says, if you can still fog a mirror, you still got something left.
And my father was, when he was 88 years old, his legs had given out and he just looked at me and he
goes, son, I can't do what I used to do. But I can make phone calls. He goes, and the church just gave
me a list of people that need to be encouraged. And I just thought, man, here you are. You know, you
got every excuse just to stare at a TV till your clock runs out. And he's like looking at one more
thing he can do. And at one point he told me, because you know, part of the reason is, I want to go
home to be with the Lord. And if there's something left, I want to get it done. So he was just trying to
finish. But I don't want men to live with regrets. Now, I think regrets are crippling. And God is such a
God of redemption. I mean, guys, if you really want to get down to it and use a strange vernacular
to describe our God, he's a show off. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, through the Bible, he could have used the smart
ones, but he consistently used the jacked up messed up black sheep murderers, adulterers, cowards like
giddy and I mean, just all in and all in and all. And so anybody that wants to say, well, I don't know,
you don't know about me. Shut up. Yeah. You know, if you fog a mirror, you qualify, jump in, do your part.
I love how the when David, first of all, David is my favorite Bible character. But first of all,
he was a great sinner. He was a great sinner, but he was also a great repenter. And he said that
that man right there is as a man after my own heart, like what? That's God. That's God talking right
there. And what I love about David is he did it continually in his life. But the first story that we
find is where he was called forward to meet Goliath. And what David did that was very unique is David
showed up. And then what remind me of that is when you said, show it off because when we show up,
it allows God a beautiful opportunity on a life to show off. That's good. And that's what David did.
Sure, he'd practice some, keeping the wolves away from the sheep with the sling. And it's not like
he automatically just became the most brilliant stone caster. But at the end of the day, he let that
thing go. And it went exactly, it was directed by the Lord because he showed off. He showed up in the
Lord showed off. But man, I think that the three D's, I think you maybe should change it to the
four D's, bro, disappear. Yeah. So don't disappear when challenges are presented to you.
Don't disappear when there's an opportunity to stand and be present to not to not shrink back,
to not be constricted by your limiting beliefs and limiting thoughts that that God's not going to do
this. I can't do that. So I might as well just just sit here and and shut my mouth. But instead,
to be present and loving, here's what happens is when you when you're in God's presence,
that's where the change happens. So you do that beforehand. Start your morning out with being in
God's presence. Start your morning out with being in God's word. It fills you up in and the light
enters your eyes and you will find that you are able to be present in those moments and allow God
to show off. You don't have to force that. You don't have to you don't you barely even, man,
I don't even need to pray about it or pray for it. It just happens when when when you're filled with
the spirit like that. The current you've you you have seen so many so many lives changed. I can't
imagine really honestly the amount of challenges that you have been brought continually to your
literal doorstep. And I know that you've you the Kurt loves telling about the the success stories
that has come through there. And I love that. Tell me though, what is what is one of your favorite
stories of somebody who has come that they were probably the lowest that you've ever seen.
And tell me what the Lord's done with with this with this young man who probably came to you and
his young. Yeah, that would probably one of the greatest stories would be a young man named
Brett Madeline from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Yeah. I'm hungry. Come from a home that was just a living
hell. I'd met him at a youth camp sitting on the back row with a hair done in his face and didn't
want to talk to me. Weeks months go by and he calls. She's meant I need help. And he came in a lot of
anger went to a lot of work with him. And he was with us almost two years daily. You're it's a
live in. He's a live. He's a live. He's a live in situation. So he's living with us in our in our homes
there and working with him and toward the end. He told me that God had told him. And when I leave here
I'm to go to the LA base of youth of the mission. And I thought well then you got some direction.
Well a month or two goes by. He leaves the program and he doesn't go there. He's disobedient. After hearing
the voice of God. Now we got a lot of authority out there. They'll spank you and he did. I mean Brett and
within no time was fighting addictions again. Very angry hurt. And we met at a hamburger joint. He
just looked at me and said, man, I got to go back and do what I was told to do. Yeah. And he went to
the base in LA. And after that his mission trip took him to Cambodia. He spent eight weeks there
came back sold everything he had went over there with a little duffel bag. Went to language school,
learned a very difficult, non-finatic language. Then he learns to drill water wells. And he has drilled
he's coming up on a thousand probably by the end of the year. He will drill his thousands
water well. Gosh. In a country where children die by the thousands from dirty water. Yeah 60%
die before the three years old. And Christianity is not yet 1%. And you know we go to bed every night.
And we sleep peacefully. But should we win there are countries that less than one person
loses? Less than one piece. Yeah. You know what's not even on the list of the three yet. They're not
even on the list of religions that are established there. And so what he's doing is it's illegal for
three Christians to gather together. Okay. It's the oppression of the government's unreal. But last year
he became one of the very few Americans to ever be gifted Cambodian citizenship. Oh. He was
sponsored in by the son of the prime minister. Cool. Wow. And so now he comes and goes through the
airport. It's like a citizen. And it's not I mean and he's spreading the gospel every school they go
into. Wow. That they drill a water well. They're sharing the gospel to hundreds of kids and the
government looks the other way. Uh huh. Because of the water wells. Yeah. They go over there as a
missionary. They chase you off. Oh yeah. And I've been over there six times to visit with. Yeah.
And to see the poverty and the pain and but then to watch that water well. Yeah. Push that water
out in the children playing in the water. Clean water for the first time in their lives. So what do
you think made the difference? First let me tell you what happens. Just paraphrase of what what
he does. He made these young men come in there and he teaches them discipline. He teaches them.
Now I want to just cast over that. Literally he teaches them discipline and he teaches them
responsibility and and that there is results for their actions. You probably have a couple more
things but those are the things that I know and and they don't let off. Now they're not task masters
but they are there. They're there. And I believe they can leave if they wanted to. I think take off.
See what I'm saying? So these men are being young men are being fed something that they deeply
desire but they didn't know how to ask for it. And I just love how you just stayed with that and
that you've answered those those questions that they don't even know how to ask yet. I just love that.
Yeah. I think that Tim one of the things that shakes a lot of evangelical
Christians up what is when I say they God gifted me with a cold heart. Because I love working with
the kids that want it. But the ones that come in and try to destroy the plays we want to run the show.
I can put a 14 year old out in a cold rain and go home and sleep like a baby. Because our success rate
doubles when they come back the second time. When they realize these people ain't playing. They'll
put me under bridge. You know and so people ask me all the time how many boys run from here. I know
it never happens because they had to work hard to get here. They had to convince us that they're worth
God's money in our time. Okay. And when they come in they know that there's a waiting list of boys
snapping at their heels. They won't that bed there. Yeah. And you one of your amazing stories. I've
presumed that it's still true if it's not. It's okay. But I know that there's no charge for these young
men. So my brother here is not only the preacher and the dad to thousands of young men. He's also the
the go between for the financial provision. He prays. He tells the story and God's people give. So
he may not say this, but I'm sure going to if there are there are men out there. He would, but I'm
just going to help them that there's men out there with dads. Maybe you haven't contacted your boy
in a long time. But what some of the things that have drawn you here that God's doing in your life
has drawn you enough far now to meet to hear this podcast and know that you can still help your
son. There's a lot of things you can do. One of them might be that you walk him into into you
three. And you can be involved there. I presume is on weekends and this and that. But boy, what a rescue.
You may not have the the gifts and the skills yourself, but you three does because they stay and
they stand firm in the truth. And that's what again, the question that they that the young men may not be
asking enough to know to ask for, but they're speaking truth to them. And man, their soul just eats it up
because it's truth. We'll give you the websites. There's one in Alabama. There's one in Texas.
Also another thing he may not mention. Well, he did the book. We want to put it here as well. White
knuckle parenting. One of the things I loved there and maybe we'll go out with this is that there's
how to parent all kind of different personalities of children that you have. But the one that popped off
the the page for me is that when he described that this will also help the parents that have been
blessed. And I don't think you just use that word cheeky, but they were blessed to have a strong
willed child. What would you speak to to that to the parents as well as if you could speak to the
strong willed young man that's also out there? Yeah, I mean that that whole thing got coined by James
Thompson years ago. And he he made the comment that there's two types of kids. There's that a compliant
child. And there they grow up to be a good employee, loyal friends, great worker bees. And then he says
if you can raise the strong will child. So he's kind of saying if you don't drown them or something.
Yeah, I'm a good. But he says that they grow up to be the entrepreneurs. Yeah, man. The risk
takers. We'll talk to most most presidents of the United States started out. No, Mama pulling their
hair. I was loved when it's you know, blessed to be a strong willed like yes, that one. We've got a
sign at you three. It says we don't want to tame you. We want to aim you. I like to take that wild heart.
Yes, sir. Wanted in the right direction. And guys, I don't know if we're going to complete the
great commission with our church kids because most church parents are raising them to pursue the
American dream. Yeah, not great commission. Man. So when we get these boys in, they running from the
law, send me to Cambodia where I can stay one step ahead of the law. You know, they want to go and they
want to do damage to the kingdom of darkness. They want to advance the kingdom of light. And you
know, they're they're wild. I mean, we had a boy that stole a police car. The cop left it running.
Went in to get a cup of coffee and it's gone. And this little kid tore that car up. They had to
spike strip their own tires. I think that's my favorite kid right there. You know, what's that young man?
But we've had him. We've had arsonists that have burned their school down. I asked the boy,
why'd you do that? I didn't want to go to school. I go, well, there's better ways to do it.
The barge school down, you know, I was that well, neither do I. But we shouldn't do that part.
Yeah. But when you when you have a boy that will run from the cops, a boy that will, you know,
burn his school, fight the police when they come after him. Man, when they come to Christ,
you're not going to put a cute little robot on him in a him book and say, sing in our choir.
Thank God. You know, they are not going to be feminized. They want to know how to be a man.
How do I aim this thing that God gave me? I mean, I am. Today still a strong will child.
If you tell me to sit down, I might, but inside I'm standing up. You know, I wouldn't know why.
I love it. Tell me, prove it to me. And that so much, we just want to, we want to tame him. We want
to beat him down. Love it. And man, you got to set him free. Just, you know, every time somebody calls
us on the phone and the phone gets passed to me and there's this mom telling this terrible story about
and all I can think is I can't wait to meet him. That sounds like my kind of kid, you know, just
spit and fire. Man, I want that one, you know. And man, we, we take them on long runs where first
men they're throwing up in the grass. But man, we teach a man that a man is a man of discipline.
There are too many 30, 40, 50, 60 year old boys walking around. We need them to grow up and be man.
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Damn broken. Time to go home. Go home.
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