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Welcome to the Executive Connect Podcast, a show for the new generation of leaders.

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Join Melissa R. Skagge as she speaks to a wide variety of guests that bring new insights into leadership,

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prosperity, and personal growth.

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While now it has all the answers, by building a community of open-minded and

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gauge leaders, we hope to give you the tools you need to help you find your own path to success.

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Welcome to the Executive Connect Podcast.

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I am excited to have my friend Wendy Howell with us today to talk about making a meaningful impact.

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Wendy is CEO of Executive Council Network.

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Previously Chief of Staff for Cisco, Executive Roles at M&A and Strategy at Symantec and Veritasch.

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She is a true people alchemist and connector and builder for all things good.

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She's passionate about supporting women and the entrepreneurial ecosystem.

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And a staunch advocate for giving back.

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Thank you so much, Wendy, for being with us today.

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You are so welcome. I'm really, really excited to be here. I know this is going to be a great conversation.

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I want to talk a little bit about a defining moment when you realize the power of making

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meaningful impact on people.

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I remember my first experience with you.

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It was very meaningful.

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So from your perspective, how can people do that?

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I have one of my favorite stories when I was just like this sort of watershed moment.

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Sue, I had been, I started mentoring a young girl.

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This is, it's a while ago, but I was on the board of Girl Scouts of Central Texas Women of Distinction.

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That's where I met her at one of these events.

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And she's like, will you be my mentor?

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Absolutely.

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We were working together for a couple of months.

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And then I did a sponsorship of their robotics team.

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And fast forward about two months later, they actually won the state championship of robotics.

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So I was there, of course.

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And she came up to me with like huge tears in her eyes.

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And she's like, we never could have done this without you and your help.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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So like that moment, and there's been, there's been lots of others.

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And they know it was same with you, Melissa.

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But that moment really just sort of struck a core.

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And like, yep, okay, this is super important.

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And I need to be doing these things all the time.

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And I think a lot of it, Melissa comes from my, my own background and journey.

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I grew up like lower middle class, I guess I would say in the Midwest and ended up making

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my way into tech leadership with zero technology background at all.

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So I use that as a story to show girls, young women and women that really anything is possible

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with the power of tenacity.

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And I've, I've lived by that and my edict is say yes and figure out how.

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And I use that as a story for, for women or girls, whoever I'm entering, right?

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I love that.

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I know that when I first met you, I felt so understood and appreciated and heard.

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And you're like a magician and doing that when you meet people, just instantly connecting

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with them, instantly making them feel special.

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So what has inspired you to really prioritize making a difference in people's lives?

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Because you are doing this all over and the boards you choose to sit on through 50, 50 women

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for entrepreneurs, for women.

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And you've really prioritized making an impact on people.

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It's interesting that question, I love that question because I was thinking through this.

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And was there, can I come up with any specific, single, uber inspiring event?

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And what I realized is I've, a long time ago, regardless of, you know, coming up in, you

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know, lower middle class, middle, the, you know, the country, I realize like today I have

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such a great life.

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And it came, it came to me that my viewpoint was, this is not an option for me to give back

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and drive impact.

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It is a responsibility.

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It is, it is my duty to give back, to support, to build communities and to drive impact not

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only locally, which I love to do because we live in a great place, Melissa.

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But you know, across the globe through, you know, some nonprofits, et cetera.

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And you think about, what would our world be like if everyone were like, are you and

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I and an obni and, you know, people that really are focused on that is, is like part of their,

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I just think, I just think it should be a part of everyone's core.

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But, you know, that's just me.

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And you know, it's true.

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It's, it's having a pay it forward mentality and not being transactional with your relationships.

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I think we've moved into a place where everything's transactional.

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You do this.

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I do that.

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people, if you look at those things as transactional, you're going to be heavily disappointed because

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people are going to let you down at some point or another.

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So how does this show up in your, your everyday life for you?

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Like how are you mindfully showing up every day, making an impact?

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And also, in thinking about this question, to be, give you sort of like, you know, behind

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the covers to be very transparent is the way back when I'm living in the Bay Area.

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I honestly, I was one of those people where a nonprofit would come to me and say, hey,

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Could you do a donation?

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And I was at Cisco, so I did a lot of sponsorship.

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It's all good.

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I wasn't in there doing it and like, like actually having my hands on it.

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I wanted to really impact people directly.

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truly driving impact and touching it myself.

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My very first nonprofit that I was on the board of was Girls in Tech.

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I was really involved in all of the events that I was mentoring and helping people and

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speaking.

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And I was like, I realized impact was going to be sort of what I would call the cornerstone

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of who I am.

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the just activities in general.

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So we'll get into that in a bit more detail later.

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And I think you do it so eloquently and kind of I think of, you know, like a conductor playing

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an orc.

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It's natural for you.

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Like it's natural for you to follow up with people and take an active interest in their

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life.

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Not only that, but making sure they're moving the needle in their life.

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Whatever that needle is.

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And so when I think of impact, I think, you know, it's not just tech.

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It's not just women.

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It's not just entrepreneurs.

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It's, you know, if it's about their family or their jobs or it's impact across all pieces

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of people's lives.

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So, you know, you mentioned a little bit about the girl that you had mentored.

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So how do you continue to grow those relationships and continue to make sure these people are moving,

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you know, through their goals, while making an impact?

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I guess the question's more like, how do you make sure that your success in impacting

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these women are continuing to make ripple effects?

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So one of the things that I try really hard to do is, you know, look at every one of these

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relationships.

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And everyone, the people or organizations that I'm trying to help, you have to continue

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to be involved.

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You have to establish this cadence, if you will.

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For example, I actually, because I'm a dork, and I keep a journal of my success stories,

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not mine, but what I've driven with people that I've worked with, whether that be individual

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people that I'm mentoring, whether that be a nonprofit that I'm very passionate about,

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a nonprofit that I'm on the board of, it is continuing to stay involved.

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And, you know, to be quite honest, ultimately, what happened to me is I ended up on six boards.

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I was on six nonprofit boards.

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And this is, and mentoring, you know, so you really do, I had to like have a talk with Wendy,

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like Wendy, you need to think about this because if you're on six boards, you are not giving

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your fuller, you're all to every one of those boards, maybe not even any of them.

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So I'd have a long, long hard chat with Wendy and, you know, come to the fact of, okay, what

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I was talking about now, two, you know, what are your top two boards and what are the top two

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things that you're super, super passionate about?

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And stop with the other boards, you know, back down from the other boards, but continue

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to support those organizations in other ways.

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And that could be, you know, volunteering, speaking, you know, mentoring, whatever that is.

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So I had to, I had to really have to think about that.

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And because it's, I do not say no.

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I have a, like, horrible, horrible time saying no.

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So maybe you can be my accountability, buddy Melissa.

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I have got no figured out.

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So I am happy to do that for you.

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And I think you touched on a really good, a really good point.

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I want to dive a little deeper on.

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So, you know, we're all an experienced and cognitive overload all the time constantly.

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And there's a lot at us.

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There's a lot of changes in our personal, our life as we get older, our parents age were,

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we're helping, as when we help a lot of people and it takes a lot, takes a lot from us.

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And one of the things you touched on keeping a journal of people you've mentored and keeping

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track, I think that's a really good point in a sense that if you have, you know, a lot of

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people have relationships with people and you can't remember your husband's names or kids

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names who they work for.

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It's hard to remember all these intricate little things about people.

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I tend, I'm an Apple person, Apple phone person.

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I put those pieces of information in my notes part in my phone.

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So I can keep track of, you know, how's your son, Johnny?

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How's your wife, Susie?

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You know, did you guys move into your new house?

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And that's an easy way to remember something special about that person.

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And I know it's happened to me where people have remembered my husband or my son or different

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things about me.

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And I'm like, oh, wow, how did they remember my husband's name?

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And so I challenge everybody listening to think about who has made an impact on you and

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what have they done to make you feel special?

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Does it remember your, you know, your husband's name or your child's name?

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people and engage people.

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children or that they're looking for a new job.

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mentioned the journal, how you are able to, I mean, you have a man.

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You're a massive network of people that you're constantly impacting and moving like you

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mentioned six boards.

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That's a lot in a day in a day's work to keep track of and do.

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So any tips or tricks that you have that you can share with our listeners?

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This is, oh, and by the way, something that I know Melissa is very passionate about is fine

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wine and she's a foodie.

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So these are, I call them, and Mrs. Stolen from the show Parks and Rec, Friendship Muggets.

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I'm left-winged right now.

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I put little friendship nuggets in my head.

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A lot of it is really just, you know, it's my memory.

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And when I meet someone and I'm just like when I met you, we're going to be friends.

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I can tell already.

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So I have that, that energy and passion to really remember that the little things, right?

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As you said, which make people feel so special.

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And then I also do, I'm also a user of the notes in the iPhone as well.

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My issue, Melissa, as I think you've noticed is oftentimes I do not have my glasses with me.

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And I'm an old lady who's blind as a bat.

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So I'm like, I have to hold my phone out here.

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So I'm thinking of like maybe I'm going to start to carry an iPad with me so I could see

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It's better.

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But yeah, it's, I do have a good memory.

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My husband said, well, walk in your room and I was like, he like, what was that one?

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I was like, that's Melissa.

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She's a foodie.

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She likes fine wine.

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I'm like, that's so and so they do got a new puppy.

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So part of that is just part of Wendy.

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But then, you know, I do like to keep a little extra set of notes on the side for sure.

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I love it.

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Are you familiar with Jim Quikidol?

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His memory.

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I've read his book a few times and it if you haven't and you don't know Jim.

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I haven't.

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I know what it is.

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It's a great book to read for those that struggle with names or things they have.

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To do he has a really quick YouTube channel on how to remember things.

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So when you walk in a room and you like you mentioned, your husband doesn't remember names.

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It's a really interesting way to tie, you know, people's personality is the way they look

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back to their names so you remember.

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So he's really great if you haven't read his book or listened to any of his audio on YouTube.

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He's a great person.

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So for the audience, hello, fun fact and great, great quick, quick trip.

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And I guess hence the name Jim Quikidol is that his real last name.

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Yep, it's his real last name.

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My husband's getting that.

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Yeah, go get it.

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It's a great book.

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He had a brain injury actually and he wasn't so his story is fascinating to learn about

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how he ended up in where he is and in writing the book.

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So it's a great.

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It's a great book to pick up, but does he have a time to talk?

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He has, I think he has done some TED talks as well.

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It's sounding familiar now that you're telling me the story.

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That's.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So when you first, just tying back to what we've first started with, when you first meet

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somebody, you don't know them, you don't know their name, you don't know where they're

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from, you know, nothing about them.

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But walk me through what what happens for you when you're first meeting somebody for the

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first time.

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And you're trying to connect with them, make an impact.

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Like, how do you go, go about you're in a networking event, you see, you know, a person,

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walk me through your process of meeting and connecting with people.

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And first off, I am the world's biggest extrovert.

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So it's, it's very easy for me to feel comfortable in, you know, large crowds or small

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incidents.

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And I, and I'm hugger.

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Like, if I meet someone who knows someone else, like, I think I probably hugged you the first

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time I met you.

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You did.

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That's just me.

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It's part of Wendy.

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And, but what I do is I try to go, like, like, just like, it's about you, the person that

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I'm speaking to.

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So tell me about you.

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What's your background?

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What, you know, what do you do?

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What's your focus?

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What are your passions?

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Is instead of what company do you work for and what do you do?

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That's not nearly as personal as tell me what your passions are.

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Are you a dog person?

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Tell me, oh, here's my line when I'm talking to maybe someone new who's thinking about executive

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council network.

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I said, well, let's talk, you know, tell me, tell me about you.

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Let's start with personal.

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Dogs, cats, kids, family, goldfish, tell me about that.

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That's like my one liner.

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I use that all the time.

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People usually laugh when you throw the goldfish thing in.

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And they're like, well, and one person has actually said, yes, I do have goldfish.

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So that was really, really funny.

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That's just a weird little, I don't know, I guess, an demonic that I use and just trying

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to get personal, you know, without being in someone's face.

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And for the most part, even, you know, obviously because I'm so extroverted and, you know,

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talking to someone who's like, really quite introverted or shy could be in sometimes

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uncomfortable, but that even works with someone who's an introvert and shy when you just throw

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out that, you know, telling about your passions and like your family and dogs, cats, kids,

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goldfish, that seems to really just like break a wall down or it has for me.

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I don't know whether it works in all instances, but it's been, it's been great for me.

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And that's a great, great point.

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So if you're not extrovert, I'm a, I'm a recovering introvert, now extrovert.

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And so I think for people that aren't extroverted, Wendy makes a really good point is having

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a question that you're comfortable asking.

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So something that you're comfortable asking people, you know, I, I used to be one of those

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people that would walk in a room and stand by myself until somebody'd walk up and feel

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that for me and talk to me.

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And I really had to force myself out of that comfort zone and I, I led with, you know,

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why are you here at this event?

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What brings you to this and why are you involved in this association or how did you hear

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about it?

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So I think she made a really good point coming up with a question and I'm a similar personality.

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I, I think everything's got to be fun and funny and I'm in, right?

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And so if you're, if, if being fun and funny and spunky is not your thing, pick something

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that is your thing.

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Pick, pick something that's true to you because it will come across authentic to the people

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that you're talking to and trying to, to build a relationship and impact through your

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conversations and, you know, I, I always, this happened to me for me years ago when I was

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first working in, as to become a better networker is putting myself in these situations that

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make myself uncomfortable and that saying, you know, you're the average of the five people

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that you spend the most time with has always resonated for me.

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So I'd always wanted to be an extrovert.

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So I always hung out with extroverted people.

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And over time, I became an extroverted person.

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So, you know, tying this kind of all back together, I think, you know, you really are a masterful

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networker and not because you are an extrovert because you care.

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I think that's the one thing about you that I love is you truly care.

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You don't ask about people's dog cats and goldfish.

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You do that to get them to open up, which will lead you kind of to the second layer.

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They say they have no animals and then you're going to ask them something else about to get

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them answering so you can connect with them right away.

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I think you do that fabulously and naturally is, oh, you have a UT sweater on.

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Did you go to university of Texas?

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Are you a long horns fan?

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You find something to connect no matter what the situation is with people.

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And that's just just so it's so fun.

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I mean, it makes actually, you know, the dreaded quote unquote networking so much fun.

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And there's such a difference between, you know, I think of people who are maybe trying

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to get on board seats and stuff like that.

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So we do this event all the time with ESEAN.

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And there's like, there's networking.

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Like, you walk into a room with a thousand people.

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There's that.

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But then there's really, there can also be, I use this concept of very intentional networking.

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And if you go in with a, this is what I'd like to accomplish at this type of event on this

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day, you know, as opposed to just, I'm just going to go in and meet a thousand people that

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I don't think that's necessarily for me only for me.

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I don't think that's necessarily as productive as, you know, the event.

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I was at last night where I was speaking on a panel and I was very specifically wanting

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to meet other community leaders that I hadn't met yet.

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Like, there was five people in the panel and YJ from town, from Dell.

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So I knew all of them as community leaders, but I went out and met, I don't know, at least

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five, eight other community leaders that I hadn't yet connected with and, and you can

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self-buy, right?

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So it's more than just our Austin crew, which I love, love our network here in Austin.

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But that's a, maybe being intentional, I think, especially if you're an introvert, I think

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maybe like doing some very intentional networking, like I want to try and meet two people who fill

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in the blank or two people that fill in the blank.

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That I think might make it less overwhelming for someone who's not like, like Wendy.

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So, and that's a great point.

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I think, you know, if you're going into a network event, you know, nobody setting, like you

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said, I want to meet two new people and having prepared in your brain, what you need.

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So maybe you're looking for a job or your new in town and you're looking for a network of

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people that connect with being mindful and aware of what you want out of that event.

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I like to connect with two people.

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I'm new to Austin.

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I'd like to build a community around me.

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And when you meet somebody telling them that, hi, I'm Melissa.

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I'm new to Austin.

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I'd like to learn the best places to eat in Austin and I'm interested in tech.

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Who should I connect with here?

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I think when you ask that in networking and in the community, people are more than happy

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in my experience to help you get whatever your ask is.

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And if they don't know, they'll probably point you in the direction of somebody else that

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might know.

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Absolutely.

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And I think that's a brilliant point.

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And I think I come from, I'm not from originally, but we spend a lot of time in the Silicon

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Valley.

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Both working in tech companies, the large, a lot of tech companies.

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But I was forever just fascinated and impressed when we moved here to Austin about the difference

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in the personality or culture of that space in, I'm not sliding the Silicon Valley that

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I am.

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You know, there it is all about how can I beat you?

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How can I compete with you?

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How can I do this?

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Drive, drive, drive, fast, fast, fast.

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And we all do that.

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And I got to Austin and that was one of the things that just made me so happy here as it's

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sort of a natural networker is people come up to me and they're like, hey, I'm Bob.

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How can I help you?

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How can I partner with you?

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I was amazed by that here.

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And I think if we could replicate, there's something special about where we live.

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I think if we could replicate that and I was, I was slagging Silicon Valley last night

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at my panel, I'm not going to lie.

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It's like, we have a really special sort of community here, I think, regardless of whether

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you're an interpreter or an extroverted, there's people for everyone here.

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I guess is what I would say.

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Yeah, well said.

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And I think I want to plug back into another thing you mentioned at the beginning was you

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say yes a lot.

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And I think that's another good quality to do is to say yes, to get out of your comfort

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zones, to try different foods you never tried, to go to different events you've never

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gone to.

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And I always say, say yes within boundaries.

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Don't say yes to being on a board.

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If you know you don't have the time to be on the board, you've got to say yes to things

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that you know you have time to do and you can show up and be present in those things.

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So I think that's another good point.

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Yeah, not having, you know, having said yes even too much, you know, and I'm a recovering

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yes person.

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So it's not that I'm going to say you know everything but I just try to be more focused so I can

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make sure I can give you know, 100% to those things that I'm involved with as well.

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Yeah, making sure you're going to, you're going to be able to keep your commitments and

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do what you say you're going to do.

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So top three things for people that are either extroverted or introverted, if they want

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to work on making and impact on people and having better relationships.

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From your perspective, what are like maybe top three things they could work on or do?

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Yeah, well one and we were just talking about it is, but for me it's like what are your

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absolute top passions?

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I mean if you, I put it in a little sentence or when you use more passionate about making

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connections and building community, then maybe anything like that's like my top top.

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So everything stems down from there.

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So I would say figure out your top, you know, one or two, maybe three passions and focus

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in that area from both a networking perspective, from a where you want to give your time back

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to I.e., if it's you know, girls in tech.

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Well, there's a big global girls in tech nonprofit that you can go and spend time with and

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give back.

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And I guess I would say thirdly is, you know, don't and we just talk about it, I think those

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the top three don't over commit your time because then you will not be providing the value

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that you truly could if you know, you're, if you're a little more balanced.

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And in our world today is you will know Melissa.

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It's like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, everything is going a thousand miles an hour and it's

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your point.

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We have, we have careers.

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We have families, we have dogs, we have aging parents, we have all those things.

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So actually, Brooke who works for me, she always like, she talks about the word boundary

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is a lot.

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So just, just know you can do tons and you can give back and you know, connect and support

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the causes that you like, but you still have to maintain your own personal and family

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boundaries, I guess is something I'm working on and I'm not very good at it, but I'm trying.

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We're all working progress.

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We're all working on something so.

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WIP exactly.

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Thank you so much for your insights today Wendy.

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How can a listeners connect with you keep in touch with you?

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Tell us about you.

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Yeah, it's to first and foremost, LinkedIn.

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I really don't do very any other social media anymore.

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I do everything really on LinkedIn.

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Then I just had to get back on the Facebook to help my daughter find a new flat in Dublin

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don't even.

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So it's just, yeah, I mean, just, you know, live life knowing that the more that we can give

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back the better, like the human race is, but yeah, so LinkedIn is where to find me.

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I do run an organization called executive council network that's really all about connections

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and community and lifelong learning and, you know, speaking opportunity, all sorts of great

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things that we do for our members.

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But the fifth core value that we have at UCN and not many particular order, but the next core

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value that we have is social impact is driving impact in the world.

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So that's, I mean, that's my story and I was sticking to it.

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Those are where my passions lie.

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I love it.

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Thank you so much for being here today and that's executive connects.

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