Sorry, I'm not coming into my room now, she's wagging her tail.
I hear it, yeah.
It's hitting up against my media tower and you're making noise, pup.
I don't know why you laid it there instead of on your bed or mine.
She wants to be close to you, that's nice.
Pat, pat, pat, pat, pat.
Yeah, there's nothing much I can do.
If I move the stuff off there, your tail is still going to hit the thing.
I think she's calm down a little bit.
Okay.
Hello and welcome to an all new episode of anime breakthroughs.
We are your omnivore hosts.
I am John.
And I'm CC and when there's just too much cool anime to watch, we've got you covered.
Today we indulge in our more primal nature one last time and review the final season
of Wolf Boy on his friends aka B-stars.
Since this is our season finale, we will of course pick our candidates for best anime
of the season.
But before all of that, there are a couple of leftovers we have to discuss in the quick
and the dead.
So drink your favorite energy drink that turns you into a literal monster, hashtag not an
ad, hashtag could be an ad.
Make sure that you learn your lesson and bring a gun after you have already been shot
by the same person three times in a fucking row.
And definitely don't pause the part, we'll be right back.
So quick and the dead, quick and the dead time, not as packed as I planted to be.
I wanted to watch so much and didn't get to any of it.
Like journal with which, tojima wants to be a comrade, I helped Paradise Season 2, Visual
Anti-S season 2, Maddlest Season 2, Darwin Incident, all of that stuff.
But I was just too busy and we already had such a fully stacked review slate that I just
wasn't able to get to it.
Sorry for that.
Next season will be a lot lighter so maybe I'll get some of the shows I bid for yourself.
Yeah, for me, it is my turn actually.
Well, you've got to bring the goods, Dan John, but yeah, I got a lot I want to check out
for summer, but we'll see we'll see what happens.
We'll see how it shakes out.
I don't mind being for once the one who is not overzealous when it comes to picking
shows.
I'll take it.
But yeah, if I never get to these shows that I just mentioned again in the near future,
I will probably revisit them down the road when they have ended their multi-season run
which kind of makes sense anyway for a lot of these at this point because depending on
how long the breaks between these are, I tend to forget what the previous season was about
even if it was a good season and have to revisit it.
And then if it's like a multi-season showdowns for I don't know, seven seasons or something
like that, I have to do that several times.
So I might just as well wait until they are completely finished and then watch them from
beginning to end.
Like I'm currently doing with Dr. Stone.
I'm waiting for the finale of that to wrap up and then I'll watch all the rest of it
since season three began, I think.
And then I'll talk about it a bit, but yeah, we'll see.
John, what did you bring a couple of things to the quick and the dead?
Just a couple, there's Oshinoko, which is still ongoing and things are getting crazy and
Aqua thought he was free of his, he thought he was free from his investigations about his
mother's death.
Turns out he couldn't have been more wrong.
And Allah that ends up driving a stake in between himself and Ruby for a large part of this
season.
But then there's big revelations where they sort of figure out who each other actually
are and now things are weird between them and.
Sounds like a lot of drama is a lot.
There's a lot going on, there's still the murder mystery there might be incest on the
horizon.
Why am I not surprised?
Like people were talking about this.
I was like, guys, what are you talking about?
And you get to this point, it's like, Oh, Ruby's a broken ill.
Oh boy, spoilers, I guess, but it's hard to bury the lead on this one because it comes
really early into this season, but when it kind of hits like a truck all at once, it's
like, Oh Jesus, oh no.
And I mean, I get, there's a reason for it and it makes sense in Ruby's head, I guess,
but if you take it at face value, it's kind of, but I guess, I don't know, I'll see how
it plays out because I'm still interested in seeing how parts of the story go.
So, see how it goes, see how it goes.
What do you got?
That's all already.
I've got one other one.
Okay, all right.
Well, I have like a couple of small things.
Two of them are watching the movie theater.
The first was Miss Kobayashi's "Dragmate".
Lonely "Drag" wants to be loved, which I watched a while ago.
I don't even know, remember when that came into theater.
But I forgot to bring it up.
So yeah, it was nice.
I think it's now streaming on Crunchyroll, I believe, right?
It is, yes.
It popped up the other day alongside Zombieland Paradise, that movie.
So I had to check that out.
I've got so many movies I need to watch.
There's those two now.
I still got to watch Sonic 3.
Both of the Super Mario movies have lots of homework to do.
Yes, I mean, some of that were for our podcast at some for you for personal enjoyment.
Yes.
But yeah, the "Dragmate" movie was nice.
Like nothing super special actually.
I kind of expected this one to be much more story heavy than the series was.
And I mean season 2 of the show was already went a bit more into the story and the background
of the drags and so on.
I expected and Toro's stuff and so on.
And I expected the movie to go even more into that.
Instead it's more of like a character focused side story that is like about Kana and not
much.
I mean Kobayashi and Toro are there and there are some Shenanigans that I'm having to go
to the Dragon world and everything, but it kind of feels like more of a separate thing
than I don't know.
It's a background origin story whatever for Kana more than anything.
And that's nice and she's a cool character.
But I don't know.
I just sat there in the theater and waited for something more to happen.
Maybe my expectations were a bit skewed and it felt more like not as substantial as
I expected it to be.
It was from the trailers it looked like oh this is gonna be a big war is gonna break out
and it's gonna be super crazy and action heavy and yes a bit is in there but it's not like
it's also a lot of meandering and that I didn't expect from him.
It's not necessarily bad thing.
It's a cozy atmosphere which the show also has right, but I expected the movie to be just
a bit more plot heavy than it was.
The character stuff with Kana and her dad and everything is nice.
And I liked that and I liked the ideas what went around the will villain is kind of weak.
The concept is kind of interesting but they don't really do anything with it so it's okay.
It was an okay movie.
I enjoyed it but it wasn't anything super special.
Might also been I don't know, marked by me having of course watching it in a German version
in the theater.
Having German subs and it reminded me why I don't like to watch German subs.
They were so fucking inconsistent.
They were switching between formal and informal which we have over here we have Z and
two so more formal addressing people a bit more formally if you don't know them but addressing
them with their friends or people you're acquainted with and so on.
Like two versus who's that in Spanish sort of thing.
I guess and in Japan of course they have even a bigger variety of that and different ways
how you address people depending on their social standing or their standing towards you
and you're familiar with them and their ranked and stuff like that.
And we don't really have that.
We have like two things.
Like two levels and even that the subs got wrong.
Like they used formal language when it made no sense in terms of character relationship
and even if it does because the Japanese language is more formal nobody talks like that in
German.
So it sounds weird as fuck.
Like I think I had several situations where Turu was just addressing Kobayashi formally.
Like yes I think maybe even all the time it's sometimes switched back and forth I think
it was very inconsistent and that makes no sense in regards to their character relationship.
Yes she probably addresses Kobayashi more formally in Japanese with a sanity and or whatever
and you know it makes more sense because she's a mate and everything and she wants to be
respectful towards her but that doesn't mean that you use the very formal version of
German language or addressing her formally in German makes any sense because you do that
to people who you I don't know are not super familiar with that assist you in any way or
that you work with but you're not super familiar with and stuff like that.
Otherwise you don't use that and all the people in this show Kobayashi has known for a
while and she's on very friendly terms with them.
She goes drinking with her colleagues all the people that live in her house.
She would address none of them with a more formal level and they did that it subs a lot and
it was like what the fuck is going on here?
What are you doing?
Translator you shit the bad and you know when it comes to yeah when it comes to movies translation
is not only about accuracy but also about language feel of the language that is being translated
to and they they translator just apparently was oh it must to be I must to adhere to Japanese
script and when it's formal there it needs to be formal here and it doesn't make any sense.
And then you had idioms that nobody uses in daily language just some really weird choices
and that took me out of the movie more than once.
It's like what what what what what are you doing here?
So yeah that was that was really weird the other flip side of that where everything the
translator did to a real job in the movie was fantastic is the other one I watched in theaters
and there's this chain that was chainsaw man rezaric.
Continuation of chainsaw man which first was you know a show and then had a movie continuation
and I don't know they have announced the next arc.
I don't know if it's gonna be another season of TV or if it's gonna be another movie not
sure it looks like TV so we'll see but I watch this movie in i max got them crazy it was a blast
an absolute visual feast just like the recent Demon Slayer movie though completely different
visual style more chaotic more dirty and grimy I loved it just like the show the story
between dengy and reza is also pretty cool has a real gut punch of an ending the action blowout
at the end of the movie is absolutely insane so wild and creative and awesome just a joy
for someone who loves crazy action animation which I do and not only but also because it
features dengy teaming up with beam shark demon boy and those two do some of the funniest
dumbest and visually stunning shit when fighting the big bad it's fantastic.
I know people are a bit down on chainsaw man right now because the ending apparently didn't
live up to expectations happens more often than you think but for now I'd still recommend
everyone watch the show and especially the movie because just from the production values
perspective this is an absolute treat like my power on a movie budget is a side to behold
they already look fantastic in like in their TV shows which we saw this season with
you to the guys and but goddamn that was just an entire movie of that shit and yeah looking
forward to the next season or movie or whatever it's gonna be and if I if I if I'm pissed
because of the ending as well we'll see that I got only myself to blame because I kept on
watching but that the first season and that movie were so good and enjoyable I can't
help myself. Yeah that's good. Yeah great movie. John you got something else you said. Yeah
I just want to touch on real quick that finished watching pre-incession orchestra. Ah yes
the not a simple gear. It's it definitely leans a bit more pretty cure than simple gear but
they kind of lean into the older audience and say hey hey do you see this thing do you recognize
it? Yeah we know you know what this is so there's plenty of nods in there too. Hey this thing is
from simple gear like I showed you screen caps of the girls going a shopping trip and the names are
like characters from simple gear was it G? It was it was it. Sons Jermon, Pralotti and
Alcabo is the other characters and I can't remember but regardless they have those sprinkled all
throughout in there. Not a Mizuki is in there and she plays one of the villains. They think it's
probably some of the better effort I've seen silver link put in for animation production over
the past few years for it for a kids show too honestly. So you know the it's pretty basic you know a lot
of it is monster of the week but then the girls end up going up against the red queen at one point
and then there's the white queen later on and then one of their friends someone who they thought
was a friend tries to take on both of their powers to play the villain to try and save Alice Pia the
world that all of these other creatures live in and it's like this magical mystical place and all
of that and you know again it's it's pretty basic for what it is but it was fun enough to cure me
through to the end add bang or music all throughout you know produced by where the elements garden
what's his name I can't think of his name but you know it's one of the guys who worked on sinful gear
cod why I'm losing my mind today folks noriasu agamatsu and I think akifumi kaneko had a small hand in
precession orchestra as well it's a little less heavy handed on some of the wild arms references that
got thrown in to simpho gear but yeah this is still a fun or breezy watch I don't think it's essential
by any means but if you want something that you can look at and you can watch and erussoff and
look at and point say I know that thing that it is what it is you know it was well produced you know
good music good action interesting characters as it went along like they're they're not just a
well one-dimensional flat characters like you might expect they have you know their own things
going on there's a couple of girls that they meet later on that like they end up fighting but then
they're like hey we don't you don't need to be any enemies we could be friends and they're like oh
we did all sorts of horrible things to you and there's a lot of coming to understandings there
making new friendships and like that so you know it was me for what I was if you want something
breezy you know it's it's 40 something episodes so it's not like a short watch but it's an easy watch
and it's worth glancing it I think just for the heck of it sounds like a fun time yeah it definitely
was cool I've won last thing and that is the episode more of my hero academia which is like
extended epilogue to the show like we see a bit more of the lives of our grown-up heroes
like we have cute a cute scene of Ocho and Lemillion cutering kids with quirks
everyone coming together celebrating short-to-placing second in the hero ranking we get to see some
of them in action again for the final time even those just to catch some car thieves
we hear the riveting yu-ki-ai as she score for the final time and of course Ocho and Deco finally
end up as a couple which was a long time long time coming all for the scene that coming yeah all
frame by Ocho overcoming her regrets of Togas sacrificing herself to help her survive in the
final battle which was kind of nice and gave it a bit more I don't know wait then if it was just
about hey our main girl and the main guy have to finally like hold hands or whatever
which they do in this kind of broy way which is weird like like there I five in or something
it's like but it's more like this partner handshake you know instead of just hey they're definitely
gonna end up like married or having kids or whatever so but it's obvious that it's that and it's a really
nice book and to the show I was already happy with the series finale we got before but this extended
episode was really the the comfish cherry on top I needed to make it perfect that's cool I even tiered
tiered up a bit when they play some old clips at the end and yeah it was a long and sometimes shaky
road but I'm super happy with how this show wrapped up and I'm definitely looking forward to getting
it all on blue ray if possible and revisiting it in a couple of years so that was the final chapter
of that I mean we might see some of the characters in vigilantes again but you know that is set before
the main show anyway so that doesn't really count I guess but yeah I'm I'm happy I mean we might get
a movie down the road still for this who knows and I'm really excited to see what Horikorshi is gonna
do next I don't I didn't even look up if he is already working on a new series or whatever I must
assume he is so yeah I'm super happy with now my hero academia probably completely wrapped up and
yeah can even with some shaky seasons in the middle there can willfully recommend it definitely one
of my favorite shows in recent years John do you have anything else for the quick into that you know
that's pretty much everything for me all right then we're gonna move into our final review of
this season and that serious final season
all right so
that's the final season of B-stars I feel like was it was a lot to take in man
yeah
triathy how exactly you start this so I mean you can start with what is happening
Leggo she has dropped out of school in just charity he's all sorts of we talked about
everything that happened with the first couple seasons um I mean the last thing that happened was
he finally discovered who the killer was uh risk the bear um and you know that was what at least
occupied most of the first two seasons in the background right the mystery that they set up okay who
is actually killing people in school and you know is it a member of drama club whatever
and yeah it was partially about that but also it was of course about the character relations
relations developing mostly between Leggo she uh Haru his love interest bunny girl and
Louis the deer the prospect Breastar and Golden Boy of the school and so on who then uh gets like
basically drifts off his his given path alive and ends up with the lion Yakuza with the Shishi
Goomi in the black market and so on but manages to carve out his own way in a regard from
some very strong relationship with kind of a mentor character in ebookie and um that comes to a
kind of hard-wrenching uh close and everything and has a I guess lasting effect on this season as well
and then it all culminated in uh Leggo she fighting riz and uh Louis offering up uh one of his
legs for uh Leggo she to devour gaining strength from that because carnivores of course gain strength
when they eat meat and being able to beat riz so kind of a happy end I guess but the follow from
that is of course now Leggo she devoured the meat of a life herbivore herbivore herbivore
and uh yeah so he is I guess uh he drops out of school because of that and uh yeah
Cheritan puts in like a very strict segregation policy um he he drops out he moves into this like
little shithouse apartment basically um there's we're sort of briefly introduced at first to
a horse named Yahya and he is a Kurt B star and he seems to sort of have a pretty good as we
find out like this is a little further on but he seems to have a like strong knowledge of like
everything that's going on yeah he set up he set up a top the police station apparently who
I guess work with him or he works with them or at least partially supported by them I don't know
if this series makes absolutely super clear how it works because he's this is also kind of a secret
that he's there that he's set up there he's kind of he's kind of a vigilante character right he's
kind of a Batman situation but sanctioned by a somewhat sanctioned by police and society I guess
yeah it's his role is weird I mean he's an interesting character though because
it's not really clear what side he's playing and he kind of keeps that veil up for a very long time
throughout this part of the series start these like pretty much he's entire 24 episodes
I mean some multiple characters do this right we have a big question a lot of question mark people
in this season Yahya is one of them the big villain of this season of this two-core show of two-core
season of course um then I guess Louis's father we're not super clear what he what his real motives are
you know our pre-cursive dojoses lead us to believe one thing but it's not only that I guess
it's definitely that like him trying to make Louis his legacy like he's always tried like
making him the next part or the next chairman of of the big conglomerate he's working for for horns
but under his conditions like him being the controlling factor still even be after he has like
I don't know uh remove himself from the post or whatever so he's he's a very controlling shit back but
also there's a bit more uh in that uh to that that later then gets revealed pretty much in the
I don't know last couple of episodes uh and it's supposed to kind of redeem in my bed I guess it
didn't work for me but I don't know about you about you but I mean it I guess it worked a little bit
maybe not fully but there's other things about this season oh yeah we'll get to those uh yeah so
we have that and yeah yeah yeah is is set up at the very beginning I guess we don't see his face yet
we don't we learn later he's like a horse uh and uh he had uh uh uh he had a kind of tumultus past I
guess where he was more rebellious and everything and that relates to legacy we get to that but
yeah he uh I want to say he's not as much in the show as I would have liked him to be like he gets set
up as this very important character uh that is like okay here is the current B star right that is
the name of the fucking show so you would expect him to play like the one of the most integral roles in
this season and him clashing with Legoshi and him be having maybe connection to the villain and
you know have a connection to Legoshi's past and everything being super important relevant to I
don't know the plots uh being driven forward uh to some emotional moments of emotional cutthouses
and everything he's also a really weird guy that seems to be very anti carnivore and he has like
this this field of this carrot patch in his apartment that has grown out of the skulls of that carnivore
and everything which is super fucked up he has like a fertilized by dead carnivores and it's like
and you expect something more to come from all of this and that I mean that is yeah that part of
that comes home to roost later on in part yes but a very small I expected to I expected to be much more
significant and I can say that for a lot of this season there are so many plot thread setup
character constellation setup a lot of new characters are introduced some of them really cool some of
them a lot of that shit gets just dropped a lot of that shit is just like or it gets resolved in a very
like minus gold matter and it feels like why was this in here there's there's a few things I thought
felt a little too convenient as it just especially towards the end not only convenient and
convenient implies that it's like oh okay we have this now and that because this is that way and
because they force that uh we we get a good wrap up to the to some things but I feel like to a
lot of the things we didn't even get a proper wrap up it felt like this things just disappear
from the show some of them get wrapped up like in a like in a two second scene in the in the in the
uh during the ending credits running yeah a couple of those actually like getting ahead of us
but the season is chaotic so why not it's so it's so weird because the pace of the season seems to go
as slow as it wants and then it will turn around and go a hundred miles an hour the next moment and
it's like can you decide please yes the pacing is very uneven and so is the focus it often feels like
okay the show wants to talk about these characters now these characters now these characters and we've
see some of that stuff in previous seasons where shifts focus on our main crew and then maybe we have
a bit more about the drama club other members of the drama club and everything and see they're
perspective on everything and have them interact with maybe with only legacy or maybe with only
Haru or maybe with only Louie and so on and so on we don't always have the three main characters in
the middle of all of this but it still feels very connected and feels like it was serving the
purpose of enriching our main characters and enriching this world by showing us this and also
having I mean you know having something to contribute to the themes of the show uh and in this
season it felt much more standalone a lot of that stuff feels like they were setting up something
to culminate by the end like all of this coming together in a crescendo at the end like having the
new play of the drama club that they're struggling with and they're trying to establish but while
being segregated in school right that feels like a very important plot thing is not necessarily in
relation to the story of legacy and Louie but in relation to the the the theme of the the themes of
of the show and all the societal themes and everything.
And I expected them to be part of the finale
in a way or at least them cutting back to the play
and everything, and have that be in syncreness
with whatever is happening in the plot line
of our for a main characters, like as a comment on that,
nothing like that happened.
That's that fucking play that is the entire season
spends so much fucking screen time on setting up,
talking about it, having the characters
like being frustrated over it, struggling with it.
That shit gets mentioned,
like their performance of gets mentions
in one sentence during the ending credits.
It's like, hey, they performed that play
and was a huge success.
The end, and I fucking lost my mind when I saw that.
I was like, what are you doing?
(laughs)
I'm gonna be honest, I feel like the last episode
should have been like three episodes,
so then everything would have had more, maybe two episodes
and then everything would have had time to breathe
but they just had to force it all in there.
And I don't know who that falls on.
I don't think it falls on Orange.
I think it probably falls on like that production committee
or on our friends Netflix
'cause it had to be pushed out in a certain number of episodes
and this is the best they could do with the time they had.
I feel like Netflix would have been open
for another half season or something like that
because if they're like, hey, people can binge it
and it's something new and we can bring back subscribers
with that and saying, he has to be,
I don't think they would have too big of a prop
ahead with a problem of that.
I think the main thing this resulted from was,
and I read about it, I don't know how much of that is accurate
and I haven't compared the show to the manga myself,
but apparently they re-wrote, restructured
and even some parts extended but also streamlined
a lot of the stuff that was in the manga
because apparently, you know, I think this is
Paro Etergakay's first work, I think,
Sundar came after that.
And she apparently was not that adept at serialized storytelling
at least at that point.
So a lot of the finale in the manga apparently felt very...
episodic, felt very much like what a lot of parts in this show
that's why it makes sense to me or still feel.
Like it feels like, okay, we're gonna talk about these characters a bit now
but nothing will really come off that
and it doesn't really have a connection to the main plot
and to the main mystery and everything.
And apparently that was even more so in the manga.
So apparently they took some, made some efforts to make it more cohesive in the anime
and make it feel like a more homogenous storyline
with a red plot line guiding you through.
I maybe, like I said, I haven't compared it to the manga myself.
In some parts, this might have been successful.
I can't be the dutch of that
but I feel like in a lot of parts it wasn't
and I feel, and that's also what I read,
they also removed a lot of character bits from...
that were in the manga from the show.
A lot of extended stuff when it came to horror and Louis being involved
in the drug trade stuff was removed.
There was something, I think, Illegashti even meets horror's parents in the manga
which doesn't happen here.
Like he sees his dad from the distance
when he picks her up at the bus stop or whatever.
Yeah.
That's it.
And I think there is an extended scene.
I think he even comes to dinner or something like that.
And that is not in this show.
That scene...
I would have liked to see that.
I mean, I don't know how important that is
but that seems pretty significant.
I feel it's significant enough in the sense of
it concerns our two main characters
and one of the biggest...
Yeah.
Like plot threads in this season is still
will they be able to make it work as a...
as a cross species couple.
Like as an inter species couple.
That is not...
That is one of the...
That is the thing that concerns those two
aside from the looming danger from the big villain of the season,
the most
and that concerns the show the most.
And it feels like something like that
where Illegashti probably runs into prejudice
because he is
like encountering horror's parents
and they probably are very much concerned
that her daughter is dating a carnivore.
And you know,
that's not in this.
So it's like, okay,
I guess I understand you were trying to make
this feel more cohesive
and feel like it's working more towards the finale of this.
But like you said, Jon,
it feels like it was very slow a lot of the time
and was
yandering and
you know, trying different things
and then by the end,
a lot of the stuff happened super fast
and in my opinion, a lot of it just doesn't connect.
Like it feels like very disjointed.
It feels like,
hey, we have all these different pieces
and they don't come together.
And some of these pieces are great,
the setup is great
and we will talk about some of the addition of characters
and so on and some of the things that are addressed here.
But, you know,
it feels like rushed.
It feels like it is missing something
and reading up on it apparently it is missing something.
And it feels like they made some wrong decision instead of just,
like you said, giving us more episodes,
giving us maybe another season
and putting some,
putting a streamlining it
but also putting the maybe
some of the important character stuff
is still leaving that in there from the manga.
Would have been great.
And maybe putting some additional stuff in there
that was missing from the manga to make the,
to make some of the stuff connect better.
And again,
I don't know how much they changed,
how much they put into this animated,
they didn't put in the manga.
But it definitely feels like it's lacking
and it feels like it just,
it doesn't connect,
like the gears don't really,
don't really work with each other all the time
or like most of the time sadly.
That's one of the things I felt
like I was very, very positive on the show
in the beginning,
like the way,
the stuff that it set up and everything,
like we have all these,
all our characters now,
or not all of our characters,
but a lot of our characters moving past the school life
getting real jobs and everything
and having new experiences through that
legacy is working in Udon,
as an Udon delivering guy.
How is working at a restaurant
but she's also of course studying at the university now
and Louis is trying to figure out the stuff
with his dad being an heir to,
to horns but also he still has this
tangential connection to the Shishi Gumi and everything
and you know,
there is enough interesting stuff there
and we have like Haru being like very naive
which you know she wasn't some regards always
but I for in the first world's second episode
she is like hey,
I've already experienced the worst
and prejudices in Ophobia and bullying
the world had to offer in high school
it can't get worse than that, right?
Oh Haru, you sweet summer child.
Welcome to the world of the adults
where everything is exponentially worse.
Which we you know see when her rabbit friend
who dates a line,
experiences this the first hand,
like first hand.
I mean Beastars has never been really
subtle with its allegories and metaphors
but the gross conversation of the two gold slashes,
she, she, ladies still has an entirely different ring to it
when you replace them complaining about interspecies
relationships with, complaining about interracial relationships
and then complaining about the stench of the,
of the lion of the carnivore
and they're like oh boy.
Oh, it's, I always go back to this
but it's like that clip from that one adult swim show
Garthmarangue's Dark Place where one of the characters says
something on the lines of,
"I know writers who have used subtext
and they're all cowards."
That is this show.
Just condensed down to its core.
There's like zero subtext to this show, man.
Yes, of course, but also this show just has so much of that.
Like, the metaphors they use, the allegories they use
are to an extent very blunt
but they are often often very muddled because
Paru Tagaki just mixes so many different ideas
and potential meanings and readings together of these things.
Like, I noticed the same in Sanda
but Beastars is really throwing it all in the pod
like starting with carnivores and herbivores.
Those could be metaphors of course for a bunch of things
from man/women, over different races, sexual and/or gender identities
in general or aggressive versus passive people.
That of course then feeds into themes of racism and xenophobia,
meat addiction, which is a very prominent thing in the show
can be a stand-in for drug addiction,
carnal desire or violent tendency,
violent tendency, specifically in males,
devouring very important in the season of course again,
could mean, I don't know, risk, risk,
king, assault, rape, actual cannibalism
or even just becoming vulnerable once you fully open yourself up in a relationship,
like dropping all of your emotional defenses to truly love your partner
will put you at risk of, you know,
severely hurting someone else or getting severely hurt yourself.
And interspecies relationships which become even more important in this in the show
can in this season, they can be an analogy for
interracial relationships just like I just said, queer relationships of any kind,
non-conformity with societal or gender norms,
the show throws so many possibilities for interpretations of its storytelling devices in here
that it's sometimes hard to see the forest for the trees.
But that's also very much what makes it so interesting to watch and think about.
Like I could mull over each episode several hours in my head,
it still might end up with a different interpretation of one of its story beats the next time I watch it,
which is cool, but it's also kind of sometimes taking away from,
I don't know, the the the oomph, some of these devices might have,
if it's a bit more clear cut,
what they are supposed to signify or mean in that specific moment and in this specific
character relationship because in certain parts is still a lot of guessing work and then
you might miss out on some emotional catharsis because of some of that stuff getting revolved
in everything. So I feel like they could also have done a bit of streamlining there.
It's still one of the best features of the show and one of the most interesting ones and one of the
most challenging ones like or you know, thought provoking ones. So that's cool. That's cool. That's a really
good way of making use of this unique setting of having all our characters be animal creatures
and they're having so much fun with that. Also still in the show just making little jokes
that relate to a certain animal behaving in this world like they, I guess,
ostensibly in an exaggerated way or in the behavior in our real world like all the all the
cact, all the the the the the the the students that get like commendations and get moved over
to the like accelerated classes are of course dogs because that does can be educated very easily
and very well and everything and you know that of course, Yaja is eating carrots mostly even though
he grows them out of the heads of carnivores is of course also joke. I think my favorite joke in
this my absolute absolute favorite joke is this we have like a couple of we have like a group of
new characters that work for Yaja who are like these these rats 500 rats or whatever who live kind
of a Robin Hood lifestyle in the black market and take from the rich or whatever and they one of them
or a couple of them work for him and there's this one moment where one of them forgot was what the
main guys main rats with the three scars on his on his forehead. What's your name? Corné. Yes,
Corné or Corné. He's doing a presentation for Yaja. Yes, yes, he's using a fucking computer mouse like
like I don't know like a segue or something to the degree. It's fucking funny like a rat using a
mouse and he just falls off the surface. I ain't using the mouse and I'm just gonna really go chuck
a lot of me because that's just a cute joke. That's just funny. Like a lot on I mean
Bsars has a lot of adult themes and so really stuff you don't want people like that you maybe
are not super familiar with or even that you are familiar with just running into your living room
while you watch that show. But some of these jokes are really cute that you like they are jokes you
can tell your grandma and it would be totally even nine. So I appreciate the show for that as well
and there's a lot of fun with that like every time we see new animal they have like some kind of
characteristic in a way that kind of fits the animal that they are in real life and if they make use
of that and kind of make jokes out of that in one way or another and it's fun it's cool and that
is still in this show so I really liked it. But yeah I'm taking the reins again John what happens
after we get introduced to you know the lives that our characters know lead and Yaja and so on
what is one of the made driving things that happens in this season? Yeah like one of the uh
he's kind of introduced a little bit later on but probably the big most important element to
the story is melons. And this sort of melons existence introduces us to the concept of
mixed they call them mixes but they're like mixed species creatures melons himself is
Parkazelle part leppard leppard right now Cheetah leppard yes and he
he sure is a character um he's a stoke old psychopath yes he is let's not mince word
he's actually insane yeah um after lewee goes to do his thing with his father in the horns conglomerate
yes Emma he uh melon takes over for lewee and heads up the shishi goomi and he's just kind of a ruthless
jerk mother fucker all around to to himself to all of the lines in the shishi goomi and really
to everyone around him nothing really matters to melon um he is trying to like
search for something to like make him feel something and every time he tastes something he's like
oh everything just tastes like sand and he's looking to just feel something so a lot of his and
legosis ideals are very very at odds with each other yes for more reasons than once yeah which
lego she wants to just he wants to talk things out with people and he tried and they have
end up running afel of each other several times for several different reasons and every time like
i'm always ending the same way because lego she is a it's a bit of a dumbass
when it comes to this he's he's very naive he's very optimistic optimistic for a long time he has a faith
in in he has too much faith in other people and doesn't learn his lesson because it's very evident how
it will end up if he confronts melon again i want to i want to go back to a second for about
learning lessons because that was another one of my one of my own first op problems with this season
um there's a whole lot of several of the characters making bad decisions over and over
and not really learning from them or facing any sort of consequence for it and that was something
that really rubbed me the wrong way all throughout lego she almost dies how many times at least
three he's like he's so single-minded about i have to do this i have to do this it's like
jesus brother sit down take a breath have a look in the mirror and just ask yourself do you think
you're going about this the right way and there are characters around him who say that to him
and he ignores it constantly it's like you're 17 18 out of turn certain point years old okay you're
young you're impulsive you're very stupid you you feel like you'll be learning some lessons
author and he doesn't and on the flip side we have haru doing the same thing because as it turns out
melon is posing as a professor at the school that she goes to and very nearly devours her in his
office and she all the while she's saying well i've almost been devoured several times so this is
something i'm used to and then when it happens to her again she's like there's something really
wrong here say oh do you think like i mean uh going back a bit like
you said did they don't there are not really that many repercussions for this i mean
lego she gets severely fucked up right he does but that doesn't stop him no of course because you know
he's strong headed and everything or pick headed to a degree well i would say he's strong headed haru is
pick headed and they you know she and maybe that's why they they like each other so much because they're
kind of this kind of sandwich in that way they really are they really had strong characters they're
there in in a certain ways even though lego she feels more pacif he's also still my way or the
highway to a certain degree he's just more i don't know i don't want to call it manipulative but he's
more like um pacifly making a tap my haru is a very at least in this season a very going forward i
want this give me this uh and if i don't get it i'm just gonna be uh i don't know uh sulking
somewhere in the corner or something like that and i'm just gonna do stupid shit over and over again
because i this is what i want and even though i don't really know what i want i guess in that regard
and i guess lego she gets more i mean haru is more in not necessarily more in danger i guess she's
more in danger because she's a in a bunny and doesn't really have much defenses uh at least lego she
can fight a fight to a degree uh but also he he gets severely fucked up he gets shot several times
like he has shots in the stomach he gets his ear blown off he pulls out his own fangs when fighting
yeah yeah yeah which was also i mean i get it it's kind of a like a statement right to make sure
hey you can't believe me my i'm so headstrong i want to take care of every herbivore i want to be
i have a relationship with one you can't believe me i'm not one of one of those
the carnivores which is also i don't know quite the statement yeah exactly so very loaded
but you know he gets definitely severely fucked up and he looks really really scarred and
tattered by the end of the show but you're right he's like i'm gonna try this over and over again
the problem okay if he did that that's fine the problem is he never changes his approach
it's like oh i'm gonna fight melon i'm gonna fight melon then he finds him then he tries to talk
to melum shoots us ass and then he has repeats he has the revelation that maybe some people are just
pure evil and he still tries to do the same thing yes it's like maybe talk to the cops maybe get
yaya in the boat maybe get fucking go hidden the boat like you have a guy here who is specialized
in the restraining her in restraining carnivores and putting them on a fucking cold turkey
anti-drug program you sure you don't want that guy helping you here no he doesn't or hey maybe
i don't know i don't know ask your ask your best friend uh louis for help who has this rich company
behind him he could make something happen that you're a saver he doesn't do that shit and you know
how how on the other side of things is like oh i want to spend time with loggy illegushi and i hate
that he kind of like puts me on the back burner because he is afraid that he i'm getting hurt or
rather he wants the devouring entry removed from his record and that's why he works together with
yaya because yaya has a bee star and he promises he will make that happen if illegushi helps him find melon
and uh that's that's why he's doing this in the first place that's why he's confronting melon in the
first place that turns into something else once he learns melon's background because that also relates
to his background um but you know initially it's like hey i want to remove this from my record and
before i do this i will not have a full relationship with haru and she is a patient and she once said
to happen that is okay i understand that i understand that she's like it doesn't matter to me i love you
i want to be together with you now and i don't want to wait until your record is this but i don't give
shit what other people are saying about our relationships i want to make this happen right now
and i understand that and that's commendable and i love that about her the problem is she puts
herself in danger and then just ignore the good recommendations from legushi from leui that are
telling me what are you doing what what what the because and she's like so fucking childish about it
and it's like well don't tell me what to do uh you always tell me what to do what the fuck and that's
just so that shouldn't be her character anymore girl it's in your best interest yes uh that was yeah
it was really irritating like both of our main characters are behaving like idiots in the
lot of ways in the season and at the when the final moment comes where not entirely behaving like idiots
anymore that goes by super quick because it's like in the last last couple episodes of the show or
last two episodes of the show yeah and before that it's a lot of running around and them like you said
making the same mistakes over and over again and it is really stupid so one of the big i guess
still one of the most interesting things in the season like you said uh the introduction of the
concept of mixes that actually different species and not just you know kind of affiliates
species like maybe a tiger and a lion and so on no for example uh got them wolf and a commoto dragon
can have relationships sexual relationships and a child can come from that and then child can inherit
traits from both parents and the big guy a person of that is of course like the that introduced that is
melon uh we don't know that about him in the beginning we see him running we don't even see his face
in the beginning we see his hands we see him killing people we see him talking to the shishigumi what
we don't see his face and the shishigumi have like this turf waters upcoming with the other three
factions of the black market and they since Louis left they're not as strong anymore and they need a new
leader so that's why they attach themselves to melon even though they don't really like him and
that he scares them and uh but you know he takes over he makes them pedal this new energy drink called
kinest who as we later learn is uh made up with ingredients of um uh with meat uh particles and so on
or parts of herbivore meat are in their and bones and uh if carnivores drink that uh in toxicates
them to a degree or makes them very aggressive and especially if they've eaten meat before
so that's one of the big plot lines that are happening in the background several of our characters
are investigating that in uh at the same time yaya lui uh and of course lagochi uh and trying to find out
who's behind this and then we learn its melon and then you want to try to find melon they find
him but he escapes several times and so on and uh there's this really cool reveal of melon of his
face when lagochi corners him in this nightclub um and he pulls off his mask like to the like
like terraces in the middle and you see his face like his his teeth he's like a cell but he is leopard teeth
and he has leopard spots in certain parts which he has a uh a sloth tattoo over with melon leaves
because he wants to hide his his his carnivore part as well he's also the wearing the the the the
mouth of the mask over his mouth but that moment is really cool that's really effective it's um it
is like super creepy who i i i i bet this was one of the best and coolest pages in the manga yeah i
assume you just turned the page and then you see him tearing off the middle of his mask and you see his
his his his carnivore grin there with the with the sharp teeth and everything that looked really
cool and i liked it i was like oh this is interesting okay this is a cool villain this is really uh
interesting and we then learn you know or even before that a bit we learn that this heavily also
relates to lagochi because he is also a mix he is um grandpa uh we get to get uh become acquainted
with him in the season he gets introduced here is gocha who had a history with jahia by the way they
were both like these rebels on motorcycles or whatever and then gocha um uh classic a classic
yanky stuff uh and then uh gocha um in one where they rest their rescue uh a wolf lady in some
situation because they already back then they were kind of doing vigilante stuff to a degree
and she falls in love with him he falls in love with her and they have a child which is some
lagochi's mom and yeah so lagochi is a quarter comodo dragon which i expected him to exhibit more
traits of apparently they say he has like the same eyes as his grandpa uh which is a very funny scene
when uh gocha is um going after harut to keep an eye on her to protect her when he learns that
she and lagochi involved and she thinks she's like stocked by some kind of predator and electrocute
him and he's like no i'm uh i'm lagochi's granddad don't you see our uh the the the uh
family in the eyes don't you see that we have the same eye shape and she's like you know
fucking comodo dragon the legs to keep him again and it was really funny so uh uh
but yeah that that's the uh that's uh a new thing we learned about lagochi i expected him
i expected to be that to be more important in the show again than it was it is important in
regards to the the themes you know interracial relationships and maybe interracial children those
being subjected to um bullying and to xenophobia and so on uh that comes into play very much
especially for our main villain and i guess down the road when you know uh it becomes more and
more about interspecies relationships and so on and the herbie was in these relationships being
in danger of being devoured and uh but this you know the society is still trying to make this work
and having this theme of hey we're working all trying to work all together that also being part
of the drama clubs play and everything so it all feeds into that but just in terms of our main
character it feels like it's a bit lacking in terms of what they're doing with that yeah there's
they sort of touch on that and it doesn't really come up in any significant capacity and like um
melon looks at him says oh you're a mix too and it's like that that's it yeah and i'm just sort of
sitting here like okay and yeah uh and you know there is um like there is this important thing
with how the relationship uh how how legal she's mom died uh i guess is is an important thing because
she apparently killed herself um because apparently mixed children don't exhibit like it don't
come out as showing signs of being a mixed child from the get go they uh the signs of that or the
the traits of that are developed over time and i think at once they're turned 80 or 20 or something
like that then they are full mix or something like that so her legoshi's mom lives her life as a wolf
a very pretty wolf apparently who gets a model contract and so on for most of her life and then
has a child with another wolf and that is like who she of course and then at i don't know when when she
becomes when she's in number 20s or something maybe she starts her i think she was she was like 19 20
ish she got her kid very young but she um she's that her comodo dragon skin starts to break through and
that kind of completely fox her up and she can't do of course a model career anymore she can live
a somewhat normal life anymore because things back then was i like mixed children mixed um species were
uh even ostracic ostracic even more back then then there are still or apparently in the time
that is today in the show and day so it's it's really supposed to be like this tragic story and when
legacy i think when he gets shot for the first time he has an out-of-body experience and meets his
dead mom like it's a nice albeit bitter sweet scene that makes liger she reflect on the regret he still
feels to work not telling his mom that he loved her mix or not and i feel the blame is shifted a bit
too much away from his mom in my opinion like yeah i heard being half comodo dragon becoming evident
at a certain age uh which doesn't really happen to liger she during the runtime of the show it might
still happen probably thruster into a deep depression and being probably bullied and so on
but it feels like the show is trying to absorb her of her decision to kill herself and thus abandon
her child which in my opinion is an absolute no go once you put a child into this world how shitty
no matter how shitty you feel that is your responsibility and leaving that behind just to
ease your own pain is a really shitty decision decision i mean i make that easier myself that's not
how depression works and i'm pretty sure she was depressed even though the show never fully confirms
that uh but you know it feels like the show is really trying to absorb her of that especially
her saying yeah well if you said something the night before i had died things might be different
which sucks on the other hand this is just liger she's mind-conjuring up an image of his mom to help
him work through his emotional baggage so since he loved his mom even after she abandoned him he would
also absorb her of her being a shitty mom in his mind and put at least half of the blame on himself
so depending on how you want to read this is it's either it either kind of sucks or is a somewhat
problematic but still cathartic moment for liger she i'm leaning towards the latter how about you
yeah yeah great okay so it's still fine it's i think it's good in in if you read it like that that
liger she is working through his own stuff and wants to forgive his mom and everything and it definitely
gives him a new goal in the form of standing up for other mixes which he hasn't wasn't able to do for
his mom which liger she my man you were a child and nobody could ask you for that not even your mother
it was her job to take care of you not the other way around and she failed the reasons are somewhat
understandable i guess but she still chosen a ecotistic path instead of doing the one thing a mother is
supposed to do so her i i wasn't happy putting himself on that on himself but it's understandable
it's kind of tough no matter how you slice it though you know all the good of what of should of
you know it's a very complicated thing but i'm glad to show put that in there you know because it makes
kind of sense it also again it relates to melon um like melons psychosis is a result of
severe self-loathing induced by a society that celebrates herbivores and carnivores getting along
but regarding mixed children resulting from such relationships as freaks and he's like really annoyed
when liger she says he likes mixes like he cannot allow such an open show of acceptance to shake his
worldview so he shoots liger she the first time like you see he gets really like pissed off when
liger she just throws that in his face and it means it's also to throw a hiahiya of his game and
everything but i'm pretty sure after all these years of being ostracized encountering someone that
could be a person that accepts him as he is is far more dangerous to his convictions than anything else
and he can't have that and that kind of feels like becomes the main relationship between it too
liger she trying to reach out to him even when he says oh he's pure evil and so on you still feel
like he's himself not really convinced of that and he still tries to reach out to them
until the very end where he fights them or where he fights the but he still feels like okay he's
trying to reach out to the guy and melon on the other hand is like fuck you you know what i
enjoy the hopeless look on people's faces before i kill them and i'm like okay liger she how you how
about you try to help another mix who has not already turned by society been turned by society in
a complete psychopathic piece of shit and you know it's still cool like using that in a
as a using melon as a device for this kind of discussion in terms of
children being bullied because they have a i don't know mixed heritage or something like that
and you know that's kind of his ultimate goal which is kept in the dark for a pretty long time
and then later we learn he wants to punish people in interspecies relationships because he belames
his in his eyes egotistical irresponsible parents for creating him um he hates his mom which is
understandable because she's pretty weird and has like this really weird and fucked up relationship to him
yeah it's not clear if his mom devoured his father because the way he looks the way she looks
in we say you have that look in your eyes like your father slathers her lips with her tongue is like
it's really freaky and of course if you want to read it in a real life way maybe don't do that that
that that wreaks like sexual sexual child abuse and you know so from that point of
you it's kind of understanding that you want he feels like he needs to punish people who
are responsibly bringing irresponsible bringing children like him into world and then causing
pain and suffering from them and he says life is hell for mixes since they are subjected to severe
bullying and xenophobia he has experienced this kind of life and and wants to stop any more children
like him being created right at least he wants to show the parents to be the hypocrites that they are
and make them devour each other that's what he created keenness for and the other drug melt or whatever
that yes is weird cat shitting into people's coffee or whatever create um but yeah so there is
there is that but the show kind of makes him out to be much clever than he is he seems to be
very superficial with all of this he is kind of like this joker character who is kind of like
this caotic force of nature and has kind of an an an artistic approach to things but it feels very
hey i've read about this thing once and now i know everything about it and i'm
i i i i i will i know more about it than all the other people and everyone who is trying to reach
out to me and trying to tell me something i just push away because they don't know anything anyway and
i'm just trying to play the role of this absolute absolute freequist enjoying this kind of shit
because that is easier than the other thing he's got he's got big we live in a society energy
and it's just like brother you the way you're going about things come on man yes there's this moment
where he proposes a sophie's choice to legacy like live in a world with no devourings but mass surveillance
or in a world with the varring but totaled freedom like how about instead of choosing between
china or total lawlessness we choose a third middle of the road path thank you very much no that's not
possible it has to be my way or the highway exactly and the fact that legacy even gives this
drawman argument the time of day shows his naïve a day your right with psychopaths like when he
stands here to consider yeah i was like brother like oh she could do it come on and it's so frustrating
and it's so cheap and it's like man you had like this really you had like this opportunity to
create this really interesting villain that really has like this troubled childhood and he killed
like several of his classmates who tried to try to make him jump off a building and stuff like that
and all of that just grows and horrible and i feel sorry for that version of him and that version
that was subjugated to his shitty mom and everything but he made his choice so often and has become this
person that he is now and he's enjoying it so much or pretending to enjoy it so much that it feels
very hard to empathize with that version of him now and even legacy like he tries at the beginning
very half-assedly and kind of half-assed and half-cocked and gets punished for it to a certain degree
even when his girlfriend is a danger he doesn't really change his approach that much and they're
so it also feels like they're not really doing what they could do like having really
you need to very world-savvy characters to clash here like you had to have an at least somewhat in
an intellectual same intellectual level as melon to debate him in this shit if you want to do
have a debate with this kind of psychotic person and they don't have that they say sent
lego she in the field who is just like this innocent dumb person yeah i mean at least
lego she in louis have the weird all to say hey your professor is dangerous and you should stay
away from him yes exactly i mean there's that and we already talked about how how we should listen to
them but doesn't because he's a bit like pick at it and yeah it's it's fine like it is the potential
of this of this entire storyline is more interesting than what they actually did that with it and how
they resolve it how they resolve it also not interesting at all it like ends in this big brawl at the
black market this this black market turf war that is also like really absolutely not important
whatsoever it gets set up set up as the thing and some main motivation of the shishikubi trying to
get the new boss and you know associating themselves melon and trying to get louis louis back and
everything but you know aside from that nothing comes out of that
turf war that is super interesting we don't get introduced to any of the other factions really
which makes it really weird that lego she is fighting one of them in the final episode that they
spend time on that instead of just fighting melon and everything and it doesn't have to do anything
with anything it's just so other part but that's the finale of this howru is not really involved
in it except at the very end when she has like tells the mob that lego she is not a dangerous carnivore
he gets like framed for by melon by for a crime for murdered in the tattoo parlor also a thing like
lego she by dude you have been lowered into a trap several times by this character how the fuck
do you not run into this fucking office see dead people and immediately are like oh fucking shit oh
oh i'm being set up i need to get out of here yes i get it because lego she is not world savvy he's a dumbass
he's a little he's a kid he doesn't know what he's doing but it doesn't make it less frustrating
it's for the drama yes but it doesn't also also hey that doesn't work it's not like he gets caught
and it has to be torture or stuff look he is like he's like retreating himself to the sewers talks a bit
with the rats and everything and i like these characters it's fun and so on but that is also something
that happens a lot in this show they have really cool cliffhangers they have really really cool
endings of episodes and it's like oh my god our character whoever that is is now in a really big bind
how is are they gonna resolve that and then the next episode that shit gets immediately either
like resolve undercut by a joke or immediately it gets deflated by not being what we thought it would be
and so much of that happens and you're oh my god lego she is gonna be trapped by the police and holy
fucking shit what is he gonna do and so on he's underrun and it kind of the show places kind of like
for laughs a lot of times and it's like an out it's not that serious he'll figure it out and it's so
weird it's so totally disjointed from what they are presenting at the end of each episode and feels
very cheap it feels like hey turn in next next time see what happens like Batman and Robin getting
in the 70s show getting captured by the Joker and then in this in this death trap and in the first
minute of the next episode they just get out of this trap and that happens in this show so many fucking
times and nothing really results from that I think the best cliffhanger is still the mid season break thing
after the first core where you know lego she gets thrown into the into the ocean and we know oh he
went out of this because there's this new character that gets introduced who is pretty cool suck one
who is like this despotted seal and we learned about this whole different society in that you know
that and the sea creatures are who completely different behavior there them eating each other is
super normal in that society that's what saguan teaches lego she about and they have like really
interesting conversations about that and saguan is just a really cool character yeah I love saguan
saguan is fantastic and he teaches lego she when they have a bath together they he teaches him
what to say underwater when he's when he's in a difficult situation and how he can get help
and you know you get the moment melon like kicks him into into the ocean you know okay he's he learned
this from saguan two episodes before that's gonna come back now and you think that's gonna be the
cliffhanger and that would have been like okay that would have not really really oh how we will how
will he get out of that but then they actually end that episode on the reveal that melon works at
horus college and he's one of her professors and that's like a real good what the fuck moment that
was really nice and if if I hadn't watched the entire season in one go and had had to wait
between that episode and you know the the second half of that season coming out later I would have
lost my mind because there was a really really good twist which I didn't see coming um yeah I think
the them dropping it all at once kind of did that a little bit of a disservice yeah so you know
there's some good stuff in there but most of that even with a good setup like this really tense moment
at the end of an episode they don't really carry it into the next episode that much and let don't
make me wrong every time we have a scene with haru and melon together it's really tense it's really
scary you don't know what he's gonna do the next time it's kind of it's partially gets deflated by
the weird way haru in parts behave sometimes and but you know she isn't severe danger even though she
doesn't realize it necessarily or it's kind of fatalistic about this or it doesn't really care or
whatever um so it's it's really cool but it's not like there is this moment in the show later where
haru is put in direct danger by melon and they have like this three very away conversation where
haru maybe has an effect on melon or on legacy or whatever all of this shit runs separately all of
that shit Louis is never involved in any of this really all of this is not directly anywhere not
directly no I mean he's involved in trying to find melon and it regard he's trying he's the one
who reveals to the public that keenness is like this dangerous drink right he gains some some
public recognition from that is on the track again to become the bee star and so on and there's this
weird conspiracy conspiracy thing with the mayor of the town who is a blackmailing Luis father and so on
it's also not really important it's like the one thing oh god maybe because Louis got himself
partially devoured or whatever he's being blackmailed and stuff and can't do everything that he wants
to do can't reveal that the mayor is involved with this shit and also funded this drink or I don't know
it doesn't really amount too much that's a problem and it doesn't feed really that much into the main
storyline with melon and the confrontation with melon at the end it feels like that that
confrontation should have been like a bigger deal should have been like the thing should have been
set up differently there needed to be more stakes there are not really any stakes in the ending they
they have like this weird thing where it's like hey melon puts like his loses the fight against
lighoshi in the final episode of course he does and then puts his puts a gun next to his chest and says
and shoots himself which I was kind of pity pissed that the second would be somewhat spoiled that
it showed us the scene at the black market lighoshi and and melon confronting each other and melon
holding a gun to his head and I thought they would play like russian or latolas something like that
by the end which didn't happen and that scene didn't happen because he puts the gun to his chest
and then shoots himself which apparently survives for some how I don't know but then he says I
put the last hurrah ha ha joke on you I played the last joke on you lighoshi I'm gonna put your loved
ones in danger and apparently it's the show makes it out like he put a meat garnish with with the
smell dot drag who does the same thing kina's does in on the meteor fest at the meteor set it up at the
meteor festival so all the carnivores will consume it and then everyone all the herbivores will get
devoured and so on that doesn't really happen only the mayor drinks like a drink laced with that
shit and gets taken out pretty quickly like how is never in any real danger not of any of his
classmates are a louis I guess to a degree but not really because lighoshi is immediately there
so out of this like it feels for for for a show that is really like in the back of on your mind is
setting up all the stuff that hey this is gonna all this shit is gonna come to a head here in the festival
and we gonna have all these people going insane with the drug and someone has to stop them
none of that should happen like it's like ultimately very unimportant yeah absolutely
unimportant it's like it's background noise and it's like kind of a motivation for a Louis storyline a
bit to investigate shit and become more important again and rising through the rings we have this
weird storyline with his marriage like if he's he has an arranged marriage and we have juno bless her
heart who's just fallen heads over heels with Louis and tries to figure out how how to start a
relationship with him and there's some neat stuff in there like they we have this this talk with her
and taru who had also relationship with Louis at some point and juno doesn't know that but she has this
they have this relate this this this this talk and it's it kind of becomes clear that juno is also
really into Louis as a person and not necessarily into him because she has a herbivore fetish
and that you know that was a nice moment and was a cool moment for a character does anything come
from that no their relationship gets wraps up in one two second scene in the during the credits scroll
and it's like come on what are you doing like Louis decides I can realize is he like carnivores don't do
herbivores don't do it for him anymore he he doesn't get get it up literally with herbivores
anymore so he he has problem like losing himself in his arranged marriage like building an
actual relationship with with azuki the daughter of a of another company and since that arranged that
shit and you know he could that sounds like something interesting like he's like I can't be with you
because I feel more comfortable around carnivores now I I don't know why sorry I fucked up or whatever
and of course that is kind of an allegory to someone having a coming out and realizing they are gay
and they can't have a relationship a catch or a sexual relationship anymore of course it's that
but this sort of really do with that anything with that instead there's she's like oh I understand
that no I'm that doesn't matter to me you can live your life I'm only in it for the marriage and if
we want to have kids that can be achieved another way what the fuck and that's how the show ends that
particular relationship Louis apparently like does what his father once becomes the head of the
company and has this arranged marriage that is not going to be a happy relationship and his it's
going to just a dot have this fake marriage and it's like why is that the resolution for this
character are you kidding me show what the fuck is going on I mean what kind of message is this yeah
I mean I guess at least azuki is willing to agree on part of that yes but it's not like that's
it the show makes it out to be like this nice things and it's like oh Louis your problems are resolved
because she doesn't really care about this and she just wants to marry you but she doesn't need to
have a relationship with you oh that's great that's fantastic yes that sounds like a fantastic
way to live like Jesus yeah that's fucking be up that was so stupid like all of that that fucking
plot line didn't make any fucking sense and then putting so much time into June or fretting over him
like this goddamn high school girl that whole romance thing was so goddamn high school and was so
saccharine and it's like okay I'm not gonna be happy if they get together but maybe they will have an
extended talk about this and see that they have a different relationship or maybe now that he's
more comfortable only comfortable Kali was he realizes that he can build a relationship with her
after all even though they have like maybe this age gap or whatever and he says like I'm gonna wait
for you but I'm gonna give this a chance or whatever none of this shit happens like she gets dropped
like in the credits it's it's not in progress in any way it's so stupid it's so stupid it doesn't
matter none of this matters and the show gave me that feeling so many times by the end and it frustrated
me so much like all of these different plot threads that were set up by the beginning by the end by
the time we get to the end I felt like I don't know 1% of that mattered 1% maybe like if the stuff with
yeah the stuff with Legoshee's granddad is cool right and I like that and I like the whole thing
with the mix and melon everything and that's probably the most juicy and most substantial stuff that
we get in this show juicy like a melon like a big old steak yes but there's also you know and you
think okay Legoshee has this stuff with his grandpa and is a mix himself and that will more heavily
there will be a cathartic moment where maybe his granddad comes in and that shows melon that
because Legoshee is loves his granddad and everything and that shows him that deck is another way
and that doesn't mean that will like stop him from maybe that that would stop him from actually
having the people give put the drug up at the market or whatever he that's finally what like
pushes him towards Legoshee's vision of hey there is a different way for this but no the show doesn't
do that instead we get also this weird thing that involves the death of Legoshee's grandma which is
supposed to be tragic and romantic I guess but it seems kind of dumb to me yeah that was so
what yeah I don't understand that it's supposed to be this very romantic gesture right because
it's set up that hey Commodal Dragons Poisons is toxic to everyone except
people who carry their genes like family members so look at she is immune to Goshas poison
his grandma and of course Legoshee's mom also was immune to his poison but his grandma like
Goshas wife was not and so Goshas always took very much care was very careful not to get any poison
on her and if he did he disinfected her hands immediately had her carry gloves and so on and they
didn't they didn't didn't really kiss that much which makes me wonder how they fucking had a child
yeah I don't know maybe condoms don't work of course in this regard maybe it was not
conceived the traditional way maybe they had an individual insemination I fucking know but anyway
so they can have that kind of relationship so what his grandma I forgot her name did
toky at some point she kisses Goshas and immediately dies and it's supposed to be this romantic gesture
was like I wanted to show you I wanted to make you not live not live your entire life worrying about
about the consequences consequences of our relationship I wanted to live have to live your
for once without worry without fear and cherish this relationship and you could do that only once lady
yes and you know it's again very egotistical because she like now her her fucking daughter only
has a dad anymore she I probably probably would have liked to have a mom her mom would have maybe
been able to help her get through the tough ship that she exhibited when that that she went through
when she exhibited her body exhibited comodered rank traits at some point would have maybe changed
things here and you know did this show tries to put it as this like thoughtful gesture
and that thoughtful gesture robbed Goshas of a wife and their daughter of a mother like that's
dumb anime parent shit I hated this it was so stupid and the show doesn't understand
that it was dumb and horrible and I mean you could argue that by extension that rubbed like oh she
of his mother obviously yes of course like I said like if if their grandma was his grandma was
still around when her mom really got into depression everything she might have been able to help her
with her love and she wasn't there I mean Goshas didn't succeed and he probably tried but hey two
parents maybe could have done something here and it's just so dumb and it's so dumb that the show
doesn't understand that this is just not this romantic gesture that it tries to make it out to be
and is instead a horrible miscalculation and a very egotistical choice in a way and oh Jesus Christ
I I hated this so much and that is also in here and it kind of sullies the cool setup for this
and having this this this this interesting relationship between legacy this grand which is still cool
and it's nice to see a Goshas realize that legacy can handle himself to a certain degree after he's
been worrying about him so much which is kind of you know make sense considering what happened to
his wife and everything and to his daughter but he sees that his grandson is better off because he's
more headstrong he's finding his way in life he's still an idiot but he is he has kind of the strength
of of Goshas in himself to a certain degree he has inherited that and can make it work and no
sea will is strong enough to find eventually is happening happiness with with Haru and that you know
that is that is the ease that is the thing that makes Goshas happy and that is kind of a rewarding
cathartic moment one of the very few in this season where it's like okay at least Goshas want to
so much shit because of the relationship he chose and that wasn't a decision not made by him
you know that it ended up the way it did that was decision made by his wife
killing herself and then his daughter killing herself and so on he went through a lot of shit now
he finally sees that there is can be a happy end for interspecies relationships and of course
that is nice and everything but it also feeds very and you alluded to that in the beginning it feels
very not necessarily convenient but contrived trying to get you to that cathartic emotional cathartic moment
I went through this entire season just thinking this is going to have some like Romeo and Juliet
ending where either or Legoshi or Haru were going to die somehow they just the flags kept going up
and then Athena is like no it's okay and I'm just saying well I mean I'm happy for you too but like
I mean I don't know if I wanted to or Romeo and Juliet happening
Romeo and Juliet ending because no I didn't want that but it just yeah it just felt like they were
trying to go towards that and then at the end of like nah and you know it could have been red
herrings because that show kind of makes it out okay this is all interspecies relationships will
go this way right they will hand and sadness and a tragedy right that is what the show is painting
it and that's Melon's worldview right that's that's the worldview of our villain so of course it feels
like the show is pushing you towards this idea and I feel like them having a happy end by the
a happy resolve of that and becoming a happy couple for now anyway
no matter you know if that will it will pen out but the show makes it seem like that will be the case
I think that itself is not the problem even if it just arrives at the very end I think the problem
is that a lot of that stuff doesn't feel earned because they don't have that much
that much they have screen time together in the season but not screen time where their relationship gets
super evolved to a new level it's mostly them becoming with each other one arguing for is still
stand and the other one arguing for no we need we want to do this now but also done not listening to
other things the other characters to say and that's what more the a lot of them is communicating
and only at the they have these these multiple fake outsets this moment where Haru stands on
I don't know a chair or something or a table and he finally is she finally sent kissing hide and they
don't do don't do that even though she wants to and he wants to but then he's like no we we need to
keep that for later and it's just it's so stupid and you know it feels like there should have been this
moment at the very end where Haru really threw in very active part and not just running into the crowd
and proclaiming in front of everyone that that is her boyfriend and they don't need to be afraid of
him because it's a carnivore that kind of never was out of the question that you would do that right
because she was always after the second season she was super convicted that she and legal she would
end up together she wanted that to happen and it was clear that she would stand up for him in that
situation that needed to be a moment where they both had to overcome a specific obstacle together
in my opinion that would have cemented their relationship I've would have made it feel feel like
the resolve of that earned and then being able to finally have that and throwing it in the
face of everyone society who say they can't have that or main villains say that they can't have that
they may maybe even negotiate at times questioning if they have that having this big moment of them
together overcoming an obstacle finding a solution to a big problem that probably should relate to
the villain should have been in the show and it is not really in there that is not what we get as
the finale of this we get the finale of legacy saving the day and then he's at risk of being I don't
know stone to death or something like by people I don't know or they're getting their pitch for
or so whatever and then Haru runs and says like no he's okay and then that's the I guess the
that that is what makes this work and it feels so flat and boring and earned and everything the show
was building up in its first couple of seasons and all the hardship it puts this character through
and Haru not being really involved with any of the melons stuff aside of being a damsel in the stress
for a while without really realizing it and so on and it's just just the emotional resonance
wasn't there it never felt like the show did the lack word to make this happy and feel earned
and that's the thing that bothered me the most probably like all of that shit that feels like
it should have be connected all that shit that worked together it doesn't by the end like it's not
here and yeah it's it's just that's how it is that's how I felt by the end of the show it's frustrating
is what it is like there's there's so much interesting and good potential all throughout this part
of the story and all of it either just gets forgotten or dropped or pushed aside or twisted in a way
that doesn't make sense in I mean I feel like I feel like there's still some level of enjoyment to
be found out of this but it just doesn't come together at the end it's just really disappointing yes
but several other little parts I don't want to go into details all of them uh but because I want to
wear up this up but you know there is we have a couple of characters that get brought in and
think there's more to them but there really isn't I mean Suck want to steal the best of them I would say
but there's seven for example one of Legoshi's neighbor who's prominently featured in the first
episode they don't really do anything with her and you know then you also in regards to the pacing
and keeping the tension alive I wish the cat and mouse game between melon and Legoshi was more tense
in general the few scenes but you know the few scenes between melon and haru is side where she is put
in imminent danger maybe there's no real build up and the different parties like I said all act
independently so there's no real joint story to tell that could be created tension from here as well
and even when the characters are kind of connected to the main plot their roles often seem much
less important than they should be for example Yaya who is introduced as one of the more important
characters as the beginning of the show like I said kind of just mostly disappears after the halfway
point like he's not in that show anymore he comes in again by the very very end and finally says
what his point of view is but he's the fucking B star you would expect him to be more in this
no-renew presence no effect on the plot fucking poof and he's yeah they're trying they're trying
to paint him out to be like this mysterious guy and get some mystery what you actually do go yeah
yeah absolutely it's a bummer I love the first two seasons of this right I mean we both
that we were raving over it we's like oh man this is a little CG show I will see and then we were
like fucking flawed by how good the first season was and then the fucking 10 second season when
they finally reveal who the villain is and how fucked up everything that all was and everything with
risk it was so good it was so strong and I feel like the season started out like that as well
I've been started out strong and promising some interesting setups like what is going on with
keenness who is the new ending medic medic villain what is Yaya the Yaya still will look
as she a league of she and Haru be able to make their relationship work will the drama club work
out how does that figure into the ending and everything the mixed stuff the interspecies stuff that
gets introduced that's solid stuff but the further the season progressed the more became clear
that the show didn't really have an interesting answer to any of these questions and would rather
prefer the mostly threat water and meander into a bunch of different directions I like many of
its parts I like the drama club stuff but there's basically no interaction between them and any of
our three main characters anymore and there was big part of the first two seasons that was the
main setting mostly and what a goddamn kick in the balls that we didn't even like I already mentioned
that we didn't even see part of the play and it being a success was mentioned only passing
during the credits of the final episode that's still just as absolutely insane to me that was a real
pester and I like League of Shies relationship to his grandfather would little we got off
Louis and Legoshee together I also liked I think their relationship is still one of the strongest
thing is strongest things in the show but there was not enough of that in this season
but I like what was there I like same for the few bits of Louis interacting with the Shishi
Goomi I think that is also a very interesting relationship and there's a legacy there through
the second season and I could have done some really interesting stuff with that but also not
enough in here we have a couple of scenes where they're like will you come back to us will you come
back to us and he's like no can't do that because ibuki died so I could get away from you so if I
return to you now that will invalidate his death so I cannot do that and that is cool and that makes
sense but it's still like there's nothing more in there and the Shishi Goomi are so much in this
season and you're like okay but what why and what are you doing the answer is nothing by the end
they're not important they could have done way more with that I like some parts of the progression
of lighoshis and haru's relationship although they share share away to little screen time and relevant
character and plot movements together in the season moments together in the season and let's face it
haru is often used if not as a direct damsel then as someone that is always under the threat of
being in danger to spring lighoshis into action she is not that much of a of a proactive problem solving
character in this there's a moment when she investigates in the university in regards to melon
because lighoshis can go there because he would be suspicious and so on and that is cool
more of that please having her more of an active role in the investigation even though it's
dangerous to her but she's a smart cookie and she she can do some some research in other parts and
so on and she's had strong so it would make sense that she would put herself in danger in these
moments but at least then it would make sense and not because she is not afraid of being like consume
she would do it for lighoshis she would do it to save maybe after she learns that he's an interspice
a mix she wants to also save mixed people and she wants to prove that she can have mixed child
with lighoshis and everything and that's why she doesn't none of that is in here nothing I like the
concept of melon as a villain someone mistreated by the world twisted so thoroughly by the society stigma
put on his existence that he would lash out at society itself and try to dismantle it from the inside
that's juicy stuff but ultimately the show didn't do much with that promising idea then
to make the guy the joker of this universe and a somewhat persistent threat to some of our main
characters and like by the end none of these cool partially cool individual potentially cool
pieces come together to say anything meaningful or give us any kind of emotional catharsis all
these different promising gears are just joined it and don't really connect with each other and all
the other million things that the show throws into these 24 episodes ultimately feel like somewhat
cute character beats at best and pointless padding at worst why was yeah yeah even in this what about
seven what was the point of her being in more than one episode what the hell was the turf war story
that amounted to fuck all where we really supposed to give a shit about Louise finet fiancee or
the corruption storyline with a mayor and horns because I sure didn't why are there two different
versions of basically the same drug that need to be established and get an otherwise completely
pointless side character in the form of deshiko to exposition dump their origin on us yeah that
that in particular confused the hell on me I was like why do we need this what is this for it doesn't
ever really feel like any of it comes together matters yes for all that garbage out it's useless it's
distracting it doesn't contribute anything of substance to the story or the characters and barely any
of the themes like focus on our main characters try to spin a story out of them try to make them
interact with each other more and try to have them work together to solving the main problem of
the season which is trying to find melon getting rid of them and then have all the interspecies stuff
relate to that but have have these three characters work together have them build this big
this strong union that they had in the previous season now that they have this new life so we have
this feeling of these core three that have a strong relationship maybe even throw Juno in there
at some point make her part of the group I don't know maf saguane do a bit more but have these interesting
characters that are somewhat important and really contribute something to the story to the main
plot have them work together on this don't throw any other weird shit in there that we don't need
and speaking of the themes I love the white swings the show takes in regards to its many
various themes that I mentioned earlier and it's really interesting and somewhat thought provoking
how it uses its animal theme to give us a potentially interesting new point of view
on some of the substantial stuff the show has to offer I like the idea of mixes they introduced in
the season a really cool idea albeit albeit way to underuse when it comes to our main character outside
of him being able to somewhat relate to the villain which doesn't really do him any good though
because the villain is a completely irredeemable psycho I you know I really had to love laugh when melon
shoots himself in the chest not in the head and we feel like I said and ligo she says melon don't
die on me really dude really how are we still doing this grow the fuck up no no I have to have it on my
way though and and even all the interesting thematic bullet points that are that are that are somewhat
thought provoking and substantial in theory by the end felt like mostly decoration and didn't
really deliver anything beyond the let's overcome our differences please even if it's tough message
which is good and fine and nice but the show could have done so much more with that it really feels
like paru itagaki had the story completely mapped out for the material that we got in season one and two
and then the manga was a success and she was asked to write more and she couldn't figure out how
and this is what we got it partially feels like a reboot even I think you're probably right about
that maybe yeah like it even to a bigger degree than what we get with the tech on titan where it's
obvious that isaiyama wanted to end the story once they resolved the main conflict on the island
and see the open sea and then have like this ambiguous ending where they stay out a stare out and
wonder if there's a peaceful world beyond the horizon that was supposed to be the ending obviously
and then the tech on titan became this mega hit and then he just extended that which I didn't hate
what he did I liked that more than other people so it was okay for me but here it definitely felt like
okay I had the story mapped out for the first two season and I wanted to end this way and now I
need to keep going and this is how I do it and it doesn't work out like the first two season had a
pretty strong focus on the relationship between Ligoshi Haru and Louis our main three added to that
the drama club member characters and stories and the who done it mystery with risk and yes Louis
storyline with the shishigumi in season two was already somewhat separate from the other stuff but
it worked as a good dark mirror to Ligoshi's trajectory and both of them trying to figure out
where they wanted to go and also you know Louis kind of fondness of carnivores and dead playing
into his character into the themes of the show like I already suggested earlier everything
so all of that work and then ultimately and also the characters of with ibuke and Louis was great
that work great that work fantastically and it all ended in both Ligoshi and Louis sacrificing a part
of themselves or their convictions to overcome a greater evil which is what I kind of wanted from
this season if you kind of do the same thing again in regard of hey here's a villain mystery villain
at least two degree and we're trying to capture and everything at least end it in a consistent way
they did that in the second season they don't do it here all of all of that just worked in the first
two season it first two seasons it rhymed it felt earned it was satisfying the final season had
barely any of that and certainly not in the end we get a new villain who is pretty cool don't get
me wrong but whose mystery is lifted pretty quickly and then is turned into a kind of prolonged
cat and mouse hunt that is not super exciting or thrilling because our characters also don't
really learn anything especially not Ligoshi the stuff that worked in season one and two is still
in here somewhere but doesn't really fit together as it did before it also doesn't figure into the
solving the main issue or resolving the main plot lines Ligoshi Haro, Louis, the drama club all
feels too separated and then you get way too much irrelevant bullshit thrown into that mix as well
that makes this whole season feel like an unfocused mess by the end and it's a real shame and I'm
done venting now I'm sorry I just lost season one and two so much everything you said is so valid though
like I couldn't agree more also I want to throw a complete Netflix themselves for them putting
in the app on the preview a picture of melon without his mask on before I had gotten to that part
of the story so I'm like what the fuck is going on with that so thanks for kind of spoiling that for me
yeah like what is what is your guys problems like do somebody from an earlier episode so people
who aren't currently like you know they have they probably hit the pics at random pic randomly button
that is also on youtube or whatever yeah but like it's so dumb like I saw that there and I just had
this big question mark and then when they show him later on coming in with the mask on and then
when the mask comes off so I was like oh that's what that's what that what oh cool thanks
yeah yeah it's it's a bummer just in general just how this show was handled how it was set you know
the setup was good but how it then progressed and so on I I just lost season one and two so much
and they were parts in this final season that I really liked a lot individually but ultimately it
didn't work for me and I got more and more annoyed with it this is kind of like the the problem with
this is this is what I feared fire what happened to fire force right where you have a really strong
start and then it fucks up the ending and that stays with you that didn't happen to fire force thank
me because that found its footing again and then actually gave us a satisfying finale and I was like
oh my god thank thank god this is how it's supposed to be because then you are maybe left with a shaky
thing in the middle same for my hero academia season four and five two two parts right but then
found its footing again which you didn't catch John because you dropped out but I can confirm that it
found its footing again and then it leaves you with this really satisfying cathartic ending and
that's what stays with you that's like okay maybe there were some parts in the middle of the show that
I didn't like but by the end it got good again and it gave me a finale I was happy with that I got
that with fire force I got that with my hero academia with B stars I got the fucking game of Thrones and
and it was like why are you doing this to me show I loved for two seasons on two seasons unconditionally
that's so mean and it didn't have to be this way they were pretty evident ways out of this but
apparently they didn't figure it out and that's just a bummer that's just a bummer anyway I mean
John you already have taught me you feel kind of the same I can yeah you kind of encapsulated it
pretty well like there was just the season wouldn't probably need an entire rewrite to save it
which is unfortunate but I mean at least at least a couple more episodes yeah at least a couple more
episodes or a rewrite in part or but at least the production was still solid all throughout so
like okay let's let's end with that with a positive yes because that shows looks still fucking amazing
like the color work yeah orange is still on the top of the game or is I mean we saw that with already
once the season with tri-gun but this of course like the show looks fantastic the few couple of action
scenes that are in there of course are super fluid but also the character animations these animals
are coming to life and the the backgrounds are so beautiful in this there is so much rich color work
in this and it's just it's such a goddamn pretty show the soundtrack is fantastic it's very somber
times it very dramatic and moments sets this real nice jazzy tone to it and everything like I did in
the first two seasons all of this is still fantastic we have some nice 2d animated moments even in
there with the very first cool OP the second one is kind of lame because it's mostly clip show but the
first one is really good a cool with some papercraft and model work in there really nice I mean at
least the song in the last opening sequence is good not so much the secrets itself no no but yes
the song is good so again there's so much good stuff in B-stars but it's just it didn't come together
this season like if you want to watch it like you can do that on Netflix of course I don't know if I
should recommend you watch this or not maybe it will work for some people maybe they are they are
okay with what happens in the season and can look past the dumb bullshit maybe for some people the
few good bits of character development and few good instances of abstract discussion of real world
themes that are recontextualized here in an interesting way will do it for you to me it felt like
the final season of b-stars was mostly just the sum of its parts and those parts felt very
disjoint just disjoint it unfocused and messy and we should turn to differently but here we are so
it's a bummer but it happens but hey we had a lot of great shows the season said that bass
was not one of them but since we did we reviewed a lot of them still one little thing we have to do
last of this season so yeah man John this was one of our most packed seasons ever
yeah we did a lot of reviews we had some great debuts in the form of jojos dboran and fate
stretch fake some awesome continuations like judo tsukaisenfrieden and gokameui to satisfying
finalists with fire force and trigon and some really mixed bags via to your eternity and b-stars
this season really had was a fully stacked roller coaster right with all the ups and downs you
can think of so what what's your feeling John what do you want to put it on the pedestal
man it's tough because like I mean golden com we is going to come back so you know we
still have it's end we have it's ending coming up judo tsukaisen is coming back soon I think I saw
date the other day I forget win exactly but it is soon ish free rental obi will without a doubt be back
even though I don't think there's been an announcement of season three yet so I think those three
as enjoyable as they were I don't think or fate like fate is also coming back I don't think those
four I would choose from just because they're gonna come back and we could see how they shape
up and primate a final judgment on them says the guy who loved golden com we so much that he said twice
it was his favorite I mean who can blame you right you can really I mean come let's me fair you can
give the best of the season of art to golden com we for any of its seasons it's it would top be
total totally valid that's true that's true trigon and fire force both had I mean trigon's ending
was neat I still had some weird issues with it with the knives and whatnot and that left a weird
taste in my mouth but overall I still think it was fine fire force though it's just
would a super cool final season that wrapped up really well and left us with something to chew on
that maybe we might see come back in the future yeah maybe we'll see so honestly I think
I'm thinking probably fire force yeah I think that's a pretty solid choice out of all of these
but you know I don't think aside from maybe two year eternity or b stars you could pick a loser
out of this lock is they were all enjoyable for their own reasons yeah even Steve or Ron on faith
and and and and Frieden who were pretty short you know but it's like hey if you want to something
something short and something great here it is like there's no regret picking those technically so
yeah the fire force seems like a good choice so what do you think yeah I'm a bit of a bit of a
bind here because I was so glad I'm sure it gives us a word to b stars and well I turned out the way
it did and now I can because it was probably my biggest disappointment the season of course I also
won't give it to to to your eternity but all I also didn't have the high expectations for that show
that I had for b stars I mean you could give it to b stars I think it's I'd raise an eyebrow but yeah
and I mean we gave it to b stars at least once before I don't know if we did it for the second
or the first season but one of them definitely a pretty sure wait let me check is that true
yes we gave it to season one when that air you you did I gave it to winlens saga but it's fine it was
on the throne it was on the throne so that's okay so but yeah that I ain't gonna happen so
what what am I left with I think Steve or Ron and faith stretch fake leave really positive first
impressions but I think I'm gonna wait for the next batch of those before I consider them for the gold
likewise for even and just the guys and we're awesome each in their own right even though they
are completely different shows but both of them already had a best of the season award and we're
gonna get more of that so they'll get another chance I love golden kamui could definitely give it to
that honestly every season of gold kamui like I said I would be fine if going back to them probably
give it to them but I'm pretty sure I will give it to golden kamui as a whole again when it's final
arc wraps up in winter just to cement its epic legacy it has very high chances to completely ace out
the competition there just as a like a complete picture giving it for that again because it
brought so much joy into our lives over the years but yeah at least me with the finale of fire for
some try and man on paper this is an easy choice between because in my opinion I know you have your
grievances in my opinion try gun is the better show in pretty much every area just in terms of you know
being varied different story the storytelling itself character relationships and so on because
fire for us let's be honest while it's very good it's still a very basic shown even though it has some
very cool and creative ideas but I was so happy that fire for us found its footing again and
delivered a really satisfying finale and I love author so it's super hard I thought the creative
choices in the final season were fantastic like visually it was super experimental in certain parts
that was really fun to look at then we had the great the great connection to soul eater that didn't come
out of nowhere but I was surprised how much they committed to that by the end it just made this
so lethal I love that as someone who watched the old show that just completely was was year towards
me to watch my sensibilities and what I like and it's like oh my god this is so cool so it's really tough
but since you already gave it to fire for us and we love to have our cake and take a little too
I think I'm gonna give it to try again again even though that also already for stampede got
the best of the season award not only but also because I already gave fire for us a best of
the season award last spring not for season three specifically but for everything that came before
it and the Arthur Bits in season three like the yeah uh should have maybe held probably held out
until this season but I lost faith there for a moment and pulled the trigger too early I guess it
happens it would definitely have deserved it for this season and it's gonna get it from you but hey
if even if it didn't get it from you it got its use and before and try and also more than
deserves it in my opinion great production values one of the few CG anime I can recommend amazing
soundtrack cool characters are really good self-contained two-core show with a satisfying story and finnalee
some of the characters could definitely have used a bit more screen time and some of the resolutions
by the end were a bit shaky but outside of that and all the characters that get enough screen time
like wolfwood like that like knives in my opinion are kind of awesome and I'm happy that we now have
two pretty cool dragon versions we can watch if we feel like a bit of sci-fi western is an order
yeah I mean in spade of my misgivings about certain parts but I do agree that
the dragon as a whole between um stampede and stargames is still great yeah absolutely so yeah
then that's my pick and that's our the those are our picks fire forest the final season
and try gun stargaze are our best of the season picks for this season and with that we've wrapped
up this fully stacked review slate and we can probably see next season it's gotta be a lot lighter
we're probably only gonna have two we're only gonna have two anime episodes anime review episodes
anime brain freeze proper episodes and probably one uh uh uh uh uh uh three streams per second episodes
because we haven't done one of those in a while so that's probably gonna be that probably only
three episodes at max next season but I think you'll be okay with that because this season you've got five
so with a lot of reviews one either a three show review which we haven't done in a while
which holy shit and I'm glad that our output is gonna be a bit slimmer next season so I can
catch up on some other nerd shit I want to I was itching to get to for a while it couldn't
because I had to take notes on shows uh which I like don't get me wrong uh it was super fun
and it was really fun to vent about b-stars in this episode and just tear it tear tear it a new one
because of its misopportunacies which I didn't have to do that but it was still fun
to really get into the nitty gritty of it yeah I mean it's it's important to point all of that out
though because especially with especially in consideration of everything that came for it was so good
and there's in there's there's the makings of something good in this final season but it just
doesn't come together yeah it's it's the perfect the perfect example of a misguided attempt
of creating a somewhat connected finale maybe even as or maybe despite or especially because
they tried to streamline it from the manga and took out some important characters who knows
I won't find out probably unless I read the manga at some point maybe I would do that but yeah it's
a poster child for for missed opportunities um can change it that's how it is now that's what we
have to live with and hey it's okay there are gonna be a lot more cool anime on the horizon and we will
definitely talk about some of them in the future and until then just stay hydrated because the summer
is a fucking nasty at least over here and she did to get yeah full disclosure uh we had to take a
short break so I could let the dog out like this morning it was not bad out but outside of snow it's
like oh my god it's so hot in the sun so please drink some water everyone absolutely and if you
want to treat yourself get yourself a nice cone of ice cream and enjoy the summer and we'll talk to you
next time we'll see you then folks
and that is a wrap on the 180 second episode of anime printeries now the music in our
podcast is from the double dragon neon soundtrack by the amazing check out man please go to
v-arty.bandcamp.com and check out is also work find us where all the podcast live but also check out
animebranfreess.com for our review index and more please leave us a review and rating on apple podcasts
Spotify or your podcast app of choice if you can but also on the socials or send an email to
animebrainfreess@gmail.com we would love to reach your feedback thanks for tuning in we hope you
had a good time and please join us again on our next episode that's good so long everybody
next time on anime brain freeze making friends is difficult especially when the world is frozen
over!
up on the mountain, be by your legacy, your foundation, your faith, your faith, your faith, your faith.
you
(upbeat music)