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Sorry, I'm not coming into my room now, she's wagging her tail.

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I hear it, yeah.

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It's hitting up against my media tower and you're making noise, pup.

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I don't know why you laid it there instead of on your bed or mine.

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She wants to be close to you, that's nice.

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Pat, pat, pat, pat, pat.

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Yeah, there's nothing much I can do.

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If I move the stuff off there, your tail is still going to hit the thing.

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I think she's calm down a little bit.

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Hello and welcome to an all new episode of anime breakthroughs.

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We are your omnivore hosts.

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I am John.

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And I'm CC and when there's just too much cool anime to watch, we've got you covered.

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Today we indulge in our more primal nature one last time and review the final season

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of Wolf Boy on his friends aka B-stars.

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Since this is our season finale, we will of course pick our candidates for best anime

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of the season.

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But before all of that, there are a couple of leftovers we have to discuss in the quick

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and the dead.

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So drink your favorite energy drink that turns you into a literal monster, hashtag not an

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ad, hashtag could be an ad.

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Make sure that you learn your lesson and bring a gun after you have already been shot

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by the same person three times in a fucking row.

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And definitely don't pause the part, we'll be right back.

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So quick and the dead, quick and the dead time, not as packed as I planted to be.

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I wanted to watch so much and didn't get to any of it.

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Like journal with which, tojima wants to be a comrade, I helped Paradise Season 2, Visual

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Anti-S season 2, Maddlest Season 2, Darwin Incident, all of that stuff.

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But I was just too busy and we already had such a fully stacked review slate that I just

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wasn't able to get to it.

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Sorry for that.

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Next season will be a lot lighter so maybe I'll get some of the shows I bid for yourself.

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Yeah, for me, it is my turn actually.

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Well, you've got to bring the goods, Dan John, but yeah, I got a lot I want to check out

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for summer, but we'll see we'll see what happens.

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We'll see how it shakes out.

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I don't mind being for once the one who is not overzealous when it comes to picking

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shows.

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I'll take it.

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But yeah, if I never get to these shows that I just mentioned again in the near future,

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I will probably revisit them down the road when they have ended their multi-season run

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which kind of makes sense anyway for a lot of these at this point because depending on

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how long the breaks between these are, I tend to forget what the previous season was about

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even if it was a good season and have to revisit it.

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And then if it's like a multi-season showdowns for I don't know, seven seasons or something

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like that, I have to do that several times.

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So I might just as well wait until they are completely finished and then watch them from

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beginning to end.

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Like I'm currently doing with Dr. Stone.

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I'm waiting for the finale of that to wrap up and then I'll watch all the rest of it

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since season three began, I think.

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And then I'll talk about it a bit, but yeah, we'll see.

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John, what did you bring a couple of things to the quick and the dead?

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Just a couple, there's Oshinoko, which is still ongoing and things are getting crazy and

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Aqua thought he was free of his, he thought he was free from his investigations about his

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mother's death.

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Turns out he couldn't have been more wrong.

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And Allah that ends up driving a stake in between himself and Ruby for a large part of this

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season.

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But then there's big revelations where they sort of figure out who each other actually

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are and now things are weird between them and.

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Sounds like a lot of drama is a lot.

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There's a lot going on, there's still the murder mystery there might be incest on the

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horizon.

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Why am I not surprised?

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Like people were talking about this.

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I was like, guys, what are you talking about?

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And you get to this point, it's like, Oh, Ruby's a broken ill.

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Oh boy, spoilers, I guess, but it's hard to bury the lead on this one because it comes

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really early into this season, but when it kind of hits like a truck all at once, it's

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like, Oh Jesus, oh no.

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And I mean, I get, there's a reason for it and it makes sense in Ruby's head, I guess,

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but if you take it at face value, it's kind of, but I guess, I don't know, I'll see how

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it plays out because I'm still interested in seeing how parts of the story go.

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So, see how it goes, see how it goes.

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What do you got?

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That's all already.

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I've got one other one.

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Well, I have like a couple of small things.

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Two of them are watching the movie theater.

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The first was Miss Kobayashi's "Dragmate".

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Lonely "Drag" wants to be loved, which I watched a while ago.

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I don't even know, remember when that came into theater.

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But I forgot to bring it up.

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So yeah, it was nice.

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I think it's now streaming on Crunchyroll, I believe, right?

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It is, yes.

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It popped up the other day alongside Zombieland Paradise, that movie.

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So I had to check that out.

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I've got so many movies I need to watch.

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There's those two now.

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I still got to watch Sonic 3.

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Both of the Super Mario movies have lots of homework to do.

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Yes, I mean, some of that were for our podcast at some for you for personal enjoyment.

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Yes.

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But yeah, the "Dragmate" movie was nice.

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Like nothing super special actually.

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I kind of expected this one to be much more story heavy than the series was.

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And I mean season 2 of the show was already went a bit more into the story and the background

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of the drags and so on.

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I expected and Toro's stuff and so on.

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And I expected the movie to go even more into that.

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Instead it's more of like a character focused side story that is like about Kana and not

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much.

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I mean Kobayashi and Toro are there and there are some Shenanigans that I'm having to go

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to the Dragon world and everything, but it kind of feels like more of a separate thing

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than I don't know.

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It's a background origin story whatever for Kana more than anything.

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But I don't know.

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I just sat there in the theater and waited for something more to happen.

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Maybe my expectations were a bit skewed and it felt more like not as substantial as

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I expected it to be.

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It was from the trailers it looked like oh this is gonna be a big war is gonna break out

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and it's gonna be super crazy and action heavy and yes a bit is in there but it's not like

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it's also a lot of meandering and that I didn't expect from him.

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It's not necessarily bad thing.

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It's a cozy atmosphere which the show also has right, but I expected the movie to be just

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a bit more plot heavy than it was.

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And I liked that and I liked the ideas what went around the will villain is kind of weak.

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The concept is kind of interesting but they don't really do anything with it so it's okay.

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It was an okay movie.

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I enjoyed it but it wasn't anything super special.

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in the theater.

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Having German subs and it reminded me why I don't like to watch German subs.

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They were so fucking inconsistent.

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They were switching between formal and informal which we have over here we have Z and

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two so more formal addressing people a bit more formally if you don't know them but addressing

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them with their friends or people you're acquainted with and so on.

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Like two versus who's that in Spanish sort of thing.

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I guess and in Japan of course they have even a bigger variety of that and different ways

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how you address people depending on their social standing or their standing towards you

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and you're familiar with them and their ranked and stuff like that.

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Like two levels and even that the subs got wrong.

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and even if it does because the Japanese language is more formal nobody talks like that in

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So it sounds weird as fuck.

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it was very inconsistent and that makes no sense in regards to their character relationship.

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and you know it makes more sense because she's a mate and everything and she wants to be

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respectful towards her but that doesn't mean that you use the very formal version of

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German language or addressing her formally in German makes any sense because you do that

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to people who you I don't know are not super familiar with that assist you in any way or

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that you work with but you're not super familiar with and stuff like that.

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Otherwise you don't use that and all the people in this show Kobayashi has known for a

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while and she's on very friendly terms with them.

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She goes drinking with her colleagues all the people that live in her house.

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She would address none of them with a more formal level and they did that it subs a lot and

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it was like what the fuck is going on here?

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What are you doing?

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Translator you shit the bad and you know when it comes to yeah when it comes to movies translation

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is not only about accuracy but also about language feel of the language that is being translated

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to and they they translator just apparently was oh it must to be I must to adhere to Japanese

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script and when it's formal there it needs to be formal here and it doesn't make any sense.

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And then you had idioms that nobody uses in daily language just some really weird choices

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and that took me out of the movie more than once.

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It's like what what what what what are you doing here?

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So yeah that was that was really weird the other flip side of that where everything the

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translator did to a real job in the movie was fantastic is the other one I watched in theaters

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and there's this chain that was chainsaw man rezaric.

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Continuation of chainsaw man which first was you know a show and then had a movie continuation

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and I don't know they have announced the next arc.

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I don't know if it's gonna be another season of TV or if it's gonna be another movie not

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sure it looks like TV so we'll see but I watch this movie in i max got them crazy it was a blast

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an absolute visual feast just like the recent Demon Slayer movie though completely different

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visual style more chaotic more dirty and grimy I loved it just like the show the story

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between dengy and reza is also pretty cool has a real gut punch of an ending the action blowout

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at the end of the movie is absolutely insane so wild and creative and awesome just a joy

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for someone who loves crazy action animation which I do and not only but also because it

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features dengy teaming up with beam shark demon boy and those two do some of the funniest

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dumbest and visually stunning shit when fighting the big bad it's fantastic.

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I know people are a bit down on chainsaw man right now because the ending apparently didn't

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live up to expectations happens more often than you think but for now I'd still recommend

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everyone watch the show and especially the movie because just from the production values

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perspective this is an absolute treat like my power on a movie budget is a side to behold

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they already look fantastic in like in their TV shows which we saw this season with

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you to the guys and but goddamn that was just an entire movie of that shit and yeah looking

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forward to the next season or movie or whatever it's gonna be and if I if I if I'm pissed

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because of the ending as well we'll see that I got only myself to blame because I kept on

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watching but that the first season and that movie were so good and enjoyable I can't

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help myself. Yeah that's good. Yeah great movie. John you got something else you said. Yeah

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I just want to touch on real quick that finished watching pre-incession orchestra. Ah yes

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the not a simple gear. It's it definitely leans a bit more pretty cure than simple gear but

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they kind of lean into the older audience and say hey hey do you see this thing do you recognize

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it? Yeah we know you know what this is so there's plenty of nods in there too. Hey this thing is

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from simple gear like I showed you screen caps of the girls going a shopping trip and the names are

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like characters from simple gear was it G? It was it was it. Sons Jermon, Pralotti and

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Alcabo is the other characters and I can't remember but regardless they have those sprinkled all

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throughout in there. Not a Mizuki is in there and she plays one of the villains. They think it's

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probably some of the better effort I've seen silver link put in for animation production over

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the past few years for it for a kids show too honestly. So you know the it's pretty basic you know a lot

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of it is monster of the week but then the girls end up going up against the red queen at one point

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and then there's the white queen later on and then one of their friends someone who they thought

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was a friend tries to take on both of their powers to play the villain to try and save Alice Pia the

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world that all of these other creatures live in and it's like this magical mystical place and all

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of that and you know again it's it's pretty basic for what it is but it was fun enough to cure me

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through to the end add bang or music all throughout you know produced by where the elements garden

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what's his name I can't think of his name but you know it's one of the guys who worked on sinful gear

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cod why I'm losing my mind today folks noriasu agamatsu and I think akifumi kaneko had a small hand in

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precession orchestra as well it's a little less heavy handed on some of the wild arms references that

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got thrown in to simpho gear but yeah this is still a fun or breezy watch I don't think it's essential

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by any means but if you want something that you can look at and you can watch and erussoff and

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look at and point say I know that thing that it is what it is you know it was well produced you know

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good music good action interesting characters as it went along like they're they're not just a

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well one-dimensional flat characters like you might expect they have you know their own things

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going on there's a couple of girls that they meet later on that like they end up fighting but then

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they're like hey we don't you don't need to be any enemies we could be friends and they're like oh

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we did all sorts of horrible things to you and there's a lot of coming to understandings there

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making new friendships and like that so you know it was me for what I was if you want something

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breezy you know it's it's 40 something episodes so it's not like a short watch but it's an easy watch

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and it's worth glancing it I think just for the heck of it sounds like a fun time yeah it definitely

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was cool I've won last thing and that is the episode more of my hero academia which is like

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extended epilogue to the show like we see a bit more of the lives of our grown-up heroes

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like we have cute a cute scene of Ocho and Lemillion cutering kids with quirks

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everyone coming together celebrating short-to-placing second in the hero ranking we get to see some

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of them in action again for the final time even those just to catch some car thieves

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we hear the riveting yu-ki-ai as she score for the final time and of course Ocho and Deco finally

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end up as a couple which was a long time long time coming all for the scene that coming yeah all

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frame by Ocho overcoming her regrets of Togas sacrificing herself to help her survive in the

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final battle which was kind of nice and gave it a bit more I don't know wait then if it was just

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about hey our main girl and the main guy have to finally like hold hands or whatever

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which they do in this kind of broy way which is weird like like there I five in or something

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it's like but it's more like this partner handshake you know instead of just hey they're definitely

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gonna end up like married or having kids or whatever so but it's obvious that it's that and it's a really

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nice book and to the show I was already happy with the series finale we got before but this extended

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episode was really the the comfish cherry on top I needed to make it perfect that's cool I even tiered

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tiered up a bit when they play some old clips at the end and yeah it was a long and sometimes shaky

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road but I'm super happy with how this show wrapped up and I'm definitely looking forward to getting

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it all on blue ray if possible and revisiting it in a couple of years so that was the final chapter

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of that I mean we might see some of the characters in vigilantes again but you know that is set before

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the main show anyway so that doesn't really count I guess but yeah I'm I'm happy I mean we might get

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a movie down the road still for this who knows and I'm really excited to see what Horikorshi is gonna

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do next I don't I didn't even look up if he is already working on a new series or whatever I must

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assume he is so yeah I'm super happy with now my hero academia probably completely wrapped up and

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yeah can even with some shaky seasons in the middle there can willfully recommend it definitely one

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of my favorite shows in recent years John do you have anything else for the quick into that you know

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that's pretty much everything for me all right then we're gonna move into our final review of

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this season and that serious final season

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all right so

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that's the final season of B-stars I feel like was it was a lot to take in man

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yeah

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triathy how exactly you start this so I mean you can start with what is happening

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Leggo she has dropped out of school in just charity he's all sorts of we talked about

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everything that happened with the first couple seasons um I mean the last thing that happened was

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he finally discovered who the killer was uh risk the bear um and you know that was what at least

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occupied most of the first two seasons in the background right the mystery that they set up okay who

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is actually killing people in school and you know is it a member of drama club whatever

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and yeah it was partially about that but also it was of course about the character relations

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relations developing mostly between Leggo she uh Haru his love interest bunny girl and

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Louis the deer the prospect Breastar and Golden Boy of the school and so on who then uh gets like

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basically drifts off his his given path alive and ends up with the lion Yakuza with the Shishi

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Goomi in the black market and so on but manages to carve out his own way in a regard from

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some very strong relationship with kind of a mentor character in ebookie and um that comes to a

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kind of hard-wrenching uh close and everything and has a I guess lasting effect on this season as well

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and then it all culminated in uh Leggo she fighting riz and uh Louis offering up uh one of his

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legs for uh Leggo she to devour gaining strength from that because carnivores of course gain strength

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when they eat meat and being able to beat riz so kind of a happy end I guess but the follow from

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that is of course now Leggo she devoured the meat of a life herbivore herbivore herbivore

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and uh yeah so he is I guess uh he drops out of school because of that and uh yeah

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Cheritan puts in like a very strict segregation policy um he he drops out he moves into this like

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little shithouse apartment basically um there's we're sort of briefly introduced at first to

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a horse named Yahya and he is a Kurt B star and he seems to sort of have a pretty good as we

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find out like this is a little further on but he seems to have a like strong knowledge of like

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everything that's going on yeah he set up he set up a top the police station apparently who

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I guess work with him or he works with them or at least partially supported by them I don't know

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if this series makes absolutely super clear how it works because he's this is also kind of a secret

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that he's there that he's set up there he's kind of he's kind of a vigilante character right he's

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kind of a Batman situation but sanctioned by a somewhat sanctioned by police and society I guess

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yeah it's his role is weird I mean he's an interesting character though because

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it's not really clear what side he's playing and he kind of keeps that veil up for a very long time

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throughout this part of the series start these like pretty much he's entire 24 episodes

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I mean some multiple characters do this right we have a big question a lot of question mark people

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in this season Yahya is one of them the big villain of this season of this two-core show of two-core

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season of course um then I guess Louis's father we're not super clear what he what his real motives are

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you know our pre-cursive dojoses lead us to believe one thing but it's not only that I guess

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it's definitely that like him trying to make Louis his legacy like he's always tried like

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making him the next part or the next chairman of of the big conglomerate he's working for for horns

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but under his conditions like him being the controlling factor still even be after he has like

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I don't know uh remove himself from the post or whatever so he's he's a very controlling shit back but

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also there's a bit more uh in that uh to that that later then gets revealed pretty much in the

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I don't know last couple of episodes uh and it's supposed to kind of redeem in my bed I guess it

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didn't work for me but I don't know about you about you but I mean it I guess it worked a little bit

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maybe not fully but there's other things about this season oh yeah we'll get to those uh yeah so

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we have that and yeah yeah yeah is is set up at the very beginning I guess we don't see his face yet

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we don't we learn later he's like a horse uh and uh he had uh uh uh he had a kind of tumultus past I

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guess where he was more rebellious and everything and that relates to legacy we get to that but

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yeah he uh I want to say he's not as much in the show as I would have liked him to be like he gets set

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up as this very important character uh that is like okay here is the current B star right that is

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the name of the fucking show so you would expect him to play like the one of the most integral roles in

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this season and him clashing with Legoshi and him be having maybe connection to the villain and

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you know have a connection to Legoshi's past and everything being super important relevant to I

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don't know the plots uh being driven forward uh to some emotional moments of emotional cutthouses

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and everything he's also a really weird guy that seems to be very anti carnivore and he has like

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this this field of this carrot patch in his apartment that has grown out of the skulls of that carnivore

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and everything which is super fucked up he has like a fertilized by dead carnivores and it's like

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and you expect something more to come from all of this and that I mean that is yeah that part of

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that comes home to roost later on in part yes but a very small I expected to I expected to be much more

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significant and I can say that for a lot of this season there are so many plot thread setup

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character constellation setup a lot of new characters are introduced some of them really cool some of

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them a lot of that shit gets just dropped a lot of that shit is just like or it gets resolved in a very

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like minus gold matter and it feels like why was this in here there's there's a few things I thought

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felt a little too convenient as it just especially towards the end not only convenient and

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convenient implies that it's like oh okay we have this now and that because this is that way and

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because they force that uh we we get a good wrap up to the to some things but I feel like to a

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lot of the things we didn't even get a proper wrap up it felt like this things just disappear

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from the show some of them get wrapped up like in a like in a two second scene in the in the in the

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uh during the ending credits running yeah a couple of those actually like getting ahead of us

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but the season is chaotic so why not it's so it's so weird because the pace of the season seems to go

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as slow as it wants and then it will turn around and go a hundred miles an hour the next moment and

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it's like can you decide please yes the pacing is very uneven and so is the focus it often feels like

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okay the show wants to talk about these characters now these characters now these characters and we've

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see some of that stuff in previous seasons where shifts focus on our main crew and then maybe we have

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a bit more about the drama club other members of the drama club and everything and see they're

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perspective on everything and have them interact with maybe with only legacy or maybe with only

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Haru or maybe with only Louie and so on and so on we don't always have the three main characters in

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the middle of all of this but it still feels very connected and feels like it was serving the

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purpose of enriching our main characters and enriching this world by showing us this and also

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having I mean you know having something to contribute to the themes of the show uh and in this

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season it felt much more standalone a lot of that stuff feels like they were setting up something

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to culminate by the end like all of this coming together in a crescendo at the end like having the

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new play of the drama club that they're struggling with and they're trying to establish but while

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being segregated in school right that feels like a very important plot thing is not necessarily in

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relation to the story of legacy and Louie but in relation to the the the theme of the the themes of

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of the show and all the societal themes and everything.

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And I expected them to be part of the finale

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in a way or at least them cutting back to the play

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and everything, and have that be in syncreness

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with whatever is happening in the plot line

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of our for a main characters, like as a comment on that,

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nothing like that happened.

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That's that fucking play that is the entire season

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spends so much fucking screen time on setting up,

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talking about it, having the characters

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like being frustrated over it, struggling with it.

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That shit gets mentioned,

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like their performance of gets mentions

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in one sentence during the ending credits.

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It's like, hey, they performed that play

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and was a huge success.

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The end, and I fucking lost my mind when I saw that.

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I was like, what are you doing?

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(laughs)

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I'm gonna be honest, I feel like the last episode

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should have been like three episodes,

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so then everything would have had more, maybe two episodes

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and then everything would have had time to breathe

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but they just had to force it all in there.

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And I don't know who that falls on.

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I don't think it falls on Orange.

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I think it probably falls on like that production committee

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or on our friends Netflix

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'cause it had to be pushed out in a certain number of episodes

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and this is the best they could do with the time they had.

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I feel like Netflix would have been open

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for another half season or something like that

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because if they're like, hey, people can binge it

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and it's something new and we can bring back subscribers

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with that and saying, he has to be,

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I don't think they would have too big of a prop

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ahead with a problem of that.

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I think the main thing this resulted from was,

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and I read about it, I don't know how much of that is accurate

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and I haven't compared the show to the manga myself,

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but apparently they re-wrote, restructured

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and even some parts extended but also streamlined

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a lot of the stuff that was in the manga

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because apparently, you know, I think this is

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Paro Etergakay's first work, I think,

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Sundar came after that.

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And she apparently was not that adept at serialized storytelling

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at least at that point.

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So a lot of the finale in the manga apparently felt very...

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episodic, felt very much like what a lot of parts in this show

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that's why it makes sense to me or still feel.

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Like it feels like, okay, we're gonna talk about these characters a bit now

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but nothing will really come off that

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and it doesn't really have a connection to the main plot

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and to the main mystery and everything.

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And apparently that was even more so in the manga.

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So apparently they took some, made some efforts to make it more cohesive in the anime

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and make it feel like a more homogenous storyline

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with a red plot line guiding you through.

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I maybe, like I said, I haven't compared it to the manga myself.

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In some parts, this might have been successful.

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I can't be the dutch of that

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but I feel like in a lot of parts it wasn't

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and I feel, and that's also what I read,

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they also removed a lot of character bits from...

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that were in the manga from the show.

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A lot of extended stuff when it came to horror and Louis being involved

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in the drug trade stuff was removed.

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There was something, I think, Illegashti even meets horror's parents in the manga

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which doesn't happen here.

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Like he sees his dad from the distance

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when he picks her up at the bus stop or whatever.

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Yeah.

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That's it.

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And I think there is an extended scene.

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I think he even comes to dinner or something like that.

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And that is not in this show.

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That scene...

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I would have liked to see that.

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I mean, I don't know how important that is

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but that seems pretty significant.

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I feel it's significant enough in the sense of

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it concerns our two main characters

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and one of the biggest...

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Yeah.

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Like plot threads in this season is still

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will they be able to make it work as a...

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as a cross species couple.

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Like as an inter species couple.

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That is not...

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That is one of the...

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That is the thing that concerns those two

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aside from the looming danger from the big villain of the season,

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the most

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and that concerns the show the most.

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And it feels like something like that

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where Illegashti probably runs into prejudice

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because he is

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like encountering horror's parents

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and they probably are very much concerned

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that her daughter is dating a carnivore.

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And you know,

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that's not in this.

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So it's like, okay,

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I guess I understand you were trying to make

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this feel more cohesive

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and feel like it's working more towards the finale of this.

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But like you said, Jon,

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it feels like it was very slow a lot of the time

442
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,520
and was

443
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,800
yandering and

444
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,680
you know, trying different things

445
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,720
and then by the end,

446
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:21,640
a lot of the stuff happened super fast

447
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,120
and in my opinion, a lot of it just doesn't connect.

448
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,200
Like it feels like very disjointed.

449
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,640
It feels like,

450
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,160
hey, we have all these different pieces

451
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,440
and they don't come together.

452
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,480
And some of these pieces are great,

453
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,520
the setup is great

454
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,520
and we will talk about some of the addition of characters

455
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,480
and so on and some of the things that are addressed here.

456
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,040
But, you know,

457
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,200
it feels like rushed.

458
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,360
It feels like it is missing something

459
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,520
and reading up on it apparently it is missing something.

460
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,960
And it feels like they made some wrong decision instead of just,

461
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,720
like you said, giving us more episodes,

462
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:57,640
giving us maybe another season

463
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,240
and putting some,

464
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:01,080
putting a streamlining it

465
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,840
but also putting the maybe

466
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,600
some of the important character stuff

467
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,560
is still leaving that in there from the manga.

468
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,520
Would have been great.

469
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,960
And maybe putting some additional stuff in there

470
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,440
that was missing from the manga to make the,

471
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,720
to make some of the stuff connect better.

472
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:19,880
And again,

473
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,640
I don't know how much they changed,

474
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,960
how much they put into this animated,

475
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,000
they didn't put in the manga.

476
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,320
But it definitely feels like it's lacking

477
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,680
and it feels like it just,

478
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,000
it doesn't connect,

479
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,520
like the gears don't really,

480
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,400
don't really work with each other all the time

481
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,560
or like most of the time sadly.

482
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,760
That's one of the things I felt

483
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,880
like I was very, very positive on the show

484
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:44,600
in the beginning,

485
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,120
like the way,

486
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,800
the stuff that it set up and everything,

487
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,880
like we have all these,

488
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,080
all our characters now,

489
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,200
or not all of our characters,

490
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,920
but a lot of our characters moving past the school life

491
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,920
getting real jobs and everything

492
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,680
and having new experiences through that

493
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,600
legacy is working in Udon,

494
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,440
as an Udon delivering guy.

495
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,440
How is working at a restaurant

496
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,080
but she's also of course studying at the university now

497
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,720
and Louis is trying to figure out the stuff

498
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:13,880
with his dad being an heir to,

499
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,360
to horns but also he still has this

500
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,240
tangential connection to the Shishi Gumi and everything

501
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:20,520
and you know,

502
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,360
there is enough interesting stuff there

503
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:28,280
and we have like Haru being like very naive

504
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,920
which you know she wasn't some regards always

505
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,520
but I for in the first world's second episode

506
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,360
she is like hey,

507
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,040
I've already experienced the worst

508
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,120
and prejudices in Ophobia and bullying

509
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,200
the world had to offer in high school

510
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,360
it can't get worse than that, right?

511
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:49,160
Oh Haru, you sweet summer child.

512
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,640
Welcome to the world of the adults

513
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,440
where everything is exponentially worse.

514
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,480
Which we you know see when her rabbit friend

515
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,680
who dates a line,

516
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,080
experiences this the first hand,

517
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,120
like first hand.

518
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,120
I mean Beastars has never been really

519
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,280
subtle with its allegories and metaphors

520
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:15,320
but the gross conversation of the two gold slashes,

521
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,200
she, she, ladies still has an entirely different ring to it

522
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,680
when you replace them complaining about interspecies

523
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,480
relationships with, complaining about interracial relationships

524
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,280
and then complaining about the stench of the,

525
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,520
of the lion of the carnivore

526
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,720
and they're like oh boy.

527
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:35,160
Oh, it's, I always go back to this

528
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,960
but it's like that clip from that one adult swim show

529
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,640
Garthmarangue's Dark Place where one of the characters says

530
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,560
something on the lines of,

531
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,600
"I know writers who have used subtext

532
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,880
and they're all cowards."

533
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,680
That is this show.

534
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,400
Just condensed down to its core.

535
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,600
There's like zero subtext to this show, man.

536
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:05,080
Yes, of course, but also this show just has so much of that.

537
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,320
Like, the metaphors they use, the allegories they use

538
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,960
are to an extent very blunt

539
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,680
but they are often often very muddled because

540
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,320
Paru Tagaki just mixes so many different ideas

541
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,160
and potential meanings and readings together of these things.

542
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,560
Like, I noticed the same in Sanda

543
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,920
but Beastars is really throwing it all in the pod

544
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,800
like starting with carnivores and herbivores.

545
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,880
Those could be metaphors of course for a bunch of things

546
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:40,760
from man/women, over different races, sexual and/or gender identities

547
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,240
in general or aggressive versus passive people.

548
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:49,320
That of course then feeds into themes of racism and xenophobia,

549
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,200
meat addiction, which is a very prominent thing in the show

550
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,440
can be a stand-in for drug addiction,

551
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,720
carnal desire or violent tendency,

552
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:01,800
violent tendency, specifically in males,

553
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,120
devouring very important in the season of course again,

554
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,600
could mean, I don't know, risk, risk,

555
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,600
king, assault, rape, actual cannibalism

556
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,560
or even just becoming vulnerable once you fully open yourself up in a relationship,

557
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,200
like dropping all of your emotional defenses to truly love your partner

558
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,960
will put you at risk of, you know,

559
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,560
severely hurting someone else or getting severely hurt yourself.

560
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,920
And interspecies relationships which become even more important in this in the show

561
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,480
can in this season, they can be an analogy for

562
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:45,640
interracial relationships just like I just said, queer relationships of any kind,

563
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,480
non-conformity with societal or gender norms,

564
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:55,400
the show throws so many possibilities for interpretations of its storytelling devices in here

565
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,200
that it's sometimes hard to see the forest for the trees.

566
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,680
But that's also very much what makes it so interesting to watch and think about.

567
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,880
Like I could mull over each episode several hours in my head,

568
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,200
it still might end up with a different interpretation of one of its story beats the next time I watch it,

569
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,120
which is cool, but it's also kind of sometimes taking away from,

570
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:21,640
I don't know, the the the oomph, some of these devices might have,

571
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,720
if it's a bit more clear cut,

572
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:31,160
what they are supposed to signify or mean in that specific moment and in this specific

573
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:36,680
character relationship because in certain parts is still a lot of guessing work and then

574
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,560
you might miss out on some emotional catharsis because of some of that stuff getting revolved

575
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,960
in everything. So I feel like they could also have done a bit of streamlining there.

576
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,800
It's still one of the best features of the show and one of the most interesting ones and one of the

577
00:42:51,800 --> 00:43:00,120
most challenging ones like or you know, thought provoking ones. So that's cool. That's cool. That's a really

578
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:07,880
good way of making use of this unique setting of having all our characters be animal creatures

579
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,280
and they're having so much fun with that. Also still in the show just making little jokes

580
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:21,240
that relate to a certain animal behaving in this world like they, I guess,

581
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:29,000
ostensibly in an exaggerated way or in the behavior in our real world like all the all the

582
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:38,040
cact, all the the the the the the the students that get like commendations and get moved over

583
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:44,760
to the like accelerated classes are of course dogs because that does can be educated very easily

584
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:52,440
and very well and everything and you know that of course, Yaja is eating carrots mostly even though

585
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:57,480
he grows them out of the heads of carnivores is of course also joke. I think my favorite joke in

586
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:02,040
this my absolute absolute favorite joke is this we have like a couple of we have like a group of

587
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:08,280
new characters that work for Yaja who are like these these rats 500 rats or whatever who live kind

588
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:16,040
of a Robin Hood lifestyle in the black market and take from the rich or whatever and they one of them

589
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:21,240
or a couple of them work for him and there's this one moment where one of them forgot was what the

590
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:30,040
main guys main rats with the three scars on his on his forehead. What's your name? Corné. Yes,

591
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:38,200
Corné or Corné. He's doing a presentation for Yaja. Yes, yes, he's using a fucking computer mouse like

592
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:43,720
like I don't know like a segue or something to the degree. It's fucking funny like a rat using a

593
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:49,400
mouse and he just falls off the surface. I ain't using the mouse and I'm just gonna really go chuck

594
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,960
a lot of me because that's just a cute joke. That's just funny. Like a lot on I mean

595
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:03,320
Bsars has a lot of adult themes and so really stuff you don't want people like that you maybe

596
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,160
are not super familiar with or even that you are familiar with just running into your living room

597
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:13,880
while you watch that show. But some of these jokes are really cute that you like they are jokes you

598
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:20,520
can tell your grandma and it would be totally even nine. So I appreciate the show for that as well

599
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:25,000
and there's a lot of fun with that like every time we see new animal they have like some kind of

600
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:32,040
characteristic in a way that kind of fits the animal that they are in real life and if they make use

601
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:38,600
of that and kind of make jokes out of that in one way or another and it's fun it's cool and that

602
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:45,320
is still in this show so I really liked it. But yeah I'm taking the reins again John what happens

603
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:51,640
after we get introduced to you know the lives that our characters know lead and Yaja and so on

604
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:58,760
what is one of the made driving things that happens in this season? Yeah like one of the uh

605
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:06,360
he's kind of introduced a little bit later on but probably the big most important element to

606
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:20,280
the story is melons. And this sort of melons existence introduces us to the concept of

607
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:33,160
mixed they call them mixes but they're like mixed species creatures melons himself is

608
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:40,920
Parkazelle part leppard leppard right now Cheetah leppard yes and he

609
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:51,640
he sure is a character um he's a stoke old psychopath yes he is let's not mince word

610
00:46:51,640 --> 00:47:02,680
he's actually insane yeah um after lewee goes to do his thing with his father in the horns conglomerate

611
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:17,240
yes Emma he uh melon takes over for lewee and heads up the shishi goomi and he's just kind of a ruthless

612
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:27,880
jerk mother fucker all around to to himself to all of the lines in the shishi goomi and really

613
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:35,960
to everyone around him nothing really matters to melon um he is trying to like

614
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:45,320
search for something to like make him feel something and every time he tastes something he's like

615
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:57,640
oh everything just tastes like sand and he's looking to just feel something so a lot of his and

616
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:09,160
legosis ideals are very very at odds with each other yes for more reasons than once yeah which

617
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:18,040
lego she wants to just he wants to talk things out with people and he tried and they have

618
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:26,520
end up running afel of each other several times for several different reasons and every time like

619
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:32,360
i'm always ending the same way because lego she is a it's a bit of a dumbass

620
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:39,960
when it comes to this he's he's very naive he's very optimistic optimistic for a long time he has a faith

621
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:48,680
in in he has too much faith in other people and doesn't learn his lesson because it's very evident how

622
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:55,640
it will end up if he confronts melon again i want to i want to go back to a second for about

623
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:00,440
learning lessons because that was another one of my one of my own first op problems with this season

624
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:13,800
um there's a whole lot of several of the characters making bad decisions over and over

625
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:25,080
and not really learning from them or facing any sort of consequence for it and that was something

626
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:31,640
that really rubbed me the wrong way all throughout lego she almost dies how many times at least

627
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:39,560
three he's like he's so single-minded about i have to do this i have to do this it's like

628
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:50,280
jesus brother sit down take a breath have a look in the mirror and just ask yourself do you think

629
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:55,560
you're going about this the right way and there are characters around him who say that to him

630
00:49:55,560 --> 00:50:05,160
and he ignores it constantly it's like you're 17 18 out of turn certain point years old okay you're

631
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:11,160
young you're impulsive you're very stupid you you feel like you'll be learning some lessons

632
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:17,960
author and he doesn't and on the flip side we have haru doing the same thing because as it turns out

633
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:28,040
melon is posing as a professor at the school that she goes to and very nearly devours her in his

634
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:34,680
office and she all the while she's saying well i've almost been devoured several times so this is

635
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,720
something i'm used to and then when it happens to her again she's like there's something really

636
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:50,040
wrong here say oh do you think like i mean uh going back a bit like

637
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:58,520
you said did they don't there are not really that many repercussions for this i mean

638
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:05,880
lego she gets severely fucked up right he does but that doesn't stop him no of course because you know

639
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,600
he's strong headed and everything or pick headed to a degree well i would say he's strong headed haru is

640
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:17,560
pick headed and they you know she and maybe that's why they they like each other so much because they're

641
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:25,080
kind of this kind of sandwich in that way they really are they really had strong characters they're

642
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:30,200
there in in a certain ways even though lego she feels more pacif he's also still my way or the

643
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:36,360
highway to a certain degree he's just more i don't know i don't want to call it manipulative but he's

644
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:43,800
more like um pacifly making a tap my haru is a very at least in this season a very going forward i

645
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:49,960
want this give me this uh and if i don't get it i'm just gonna be uh i don't know uh sulking

646
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:55,080
somewhere in the corner or something like that and i'm just gonna do stupid shit over and over again

647
00:51:55,080 --> 00:52:01,560
because i this is what i want and even though i don't really know what i want i guess in that regard

648
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:07,960
and i guess lego she gets more i mean haru is more in not necessarily more in danger i guess she's

649
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:14,600
more in danger because she's a in a bunny and doesn't really have much defenses uh at least lego she

650
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:20,360
can fight a fight to a degree uh but also he he gets severely fucked up he gets shot several times

651
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:27,160
like he has shots in the stomach he gets his ear blown off he pulls out his own fangs when fighting

652
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:33,800
yeah yeah yeah which was also i mean i get it it's kind of a like a statement right to make sure

653
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:40,440
hey you can't believe me my i'm so headstrong i want to take care of every herbivore i want to be

654
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,680
i have a relationship with one you can't believe me i'm not one of one of those

655
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:53,400
the carnivores which is also i don't know quite the statement yeah exactly so very loaded

656
00:52:53,400 --> 00:53:00,200
but you know he gets definitely severely fucked up and he looks really really scarred and

657
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:05,080
tattered by the end of the show but you're right he's like i'm gonna try this over and over again

658
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:11,160
the problem okay if he did that that's fine the problem is he never changes his approach

659
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,680
it's like oh i'm gonna fight melon i'm gonna fight melon then he finds him then he tries to talk

660
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:23,160
to melum shoots us ass and then he has repeats he has the revelation that maybe some people are just

661
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:31,720
pure evil and he still tries to do the same thing yes it's like maybe talk to the cops maybe get

662
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:40,920
yaya in the boat maybe get fucking go hidden the boat like you have a guy here who is specialized

663
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:47,320
in the restraining her in restraining carnivores and putting them on a fucking cold turkey

664
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:54,600
anti-drug program you sure you don't want that guy helping you here no he doesn't or hey maybe

665
00:53:54,600 --> 00:54:01,320
i don't know i don't know ask your ask your best friend uh louis for help who has this rich company

666
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:06,920
behind him he could make something happen that you're a saver he doesn't do that shit and you know

667
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:11,880
how how on the other side of things is like oh i want to spend time with loggy illegushi and i hate

668
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:18,440
that he kind of like puts me on the back burner because he is afraid that he i'm getting hurt or

669
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:24,840
rather he wants the devouring entry removed from his record and that's why he works together with

670
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:31,240
yaya because yaya has a bee star and he promises he will make that happen if illegushi helps him find melon

671
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:38,040
and uh that's that's why he's doing this in the first place that's why he's confronting melon in the

672
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,840
first place that turns into something else once he learns melon's background because that also relates

673
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:48,680
to his background um but you know initially it's like hey i want to remove this from my record and

674
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:55,480
before i do this i will not have a full relationship with haru and she is a patient and she once said

675
00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:01,640
to happen that is okay i understand that i understand that she's like it doesn't matter to me i love you

676
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:07,160
i want to be together with you now and i don't want to wait until your record is this but i don't give

677
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,720
shit what other people are saying about our relationships i want to make this happen right now

678
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:16,520
and i understand that and that's commendable and i love that about her the problem is she puts

679
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:25,480
herself in danger and then just ignore the good recommendations from legushi from leui that are

680
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:32,200
telling me what are you doing what what what the because and she's like so fucking childish about it

681
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:37,560
and it's like well don't tell me what to do uh you always tell me what to do what the fuck and that's

682
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:45,880
just so that shouldn't be her character anymore girl it's in your best interest yes uh that was yeah

683
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,280
it was really irritating like both of our main characters are behaving like idiots in the

684
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:57,240
lot of ways in the season and at the when the final moment comes where not entirely behaving like idiots

685
00:55:57,240 --> 00:56:02,600
anymore that goes by super quick because it's like in the last last couple episodes of the show or

686
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:07,720
last two episodes of the show yeah and before that it's a lot of running around and them like you said

687
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:14,280
making the same mistakes over and over again and it is really stupid so one of the big i guess

688
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:19,960
still one of the most interesting things in the season like you said uh the introduction of the

689
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:27,480
concept of mixes that actually different species and not just you know kind of affiliates

690
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:37,000
species like maybe a tiger and a lion and so on no for example uh got them wolf and a commoto dragon

691
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:43,240
can have relationships sexual relationships and a child can come from that and then child can inherit

692
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:50,200
traits from both parents and the big guy a person of that is of course like the that introduced that is

693
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:55,320
melon uh we don't know that about him in the beginning we see him running we don't even see his face

694
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,240
in the beginning we see his hands we see him killing people we see him talking to the shishigumi what

695
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:04,760
we don't see his face and the shishigumi have like this turf waters upcoming with the other three

696
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:09,000
factions of the black market and they since Louis left they're not as strong anymore and they need a new

697
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,800
leader so that's why they attach themselves to melon even though they don't really like him and

698
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:20,040
that he scares them and uh but you know he takes over he makes them pedal this new energy drink called

699
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:28,840
kinest who as we later learn is uh made up with ingredients of um uh with meat uh particles and so on

700
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:36,360
or parts of herbivore meat are in their and bones and uh if carnivores drink that uh in toxicates

701
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,680
them to a degree or makes them very aggressive and especially if they've eaten meat before

702
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,080
so that's one of the big plot lines that are happening in the background several of our characters

703
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:51,960
are investigating that in uh at the same time yaya lui uh and of course lagochi uh and trying to find out

704
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,880
who's behind this and then we learn its melon and then you want to try to find melon they find

705
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:02,600
him but he escapes several times and so on and uh there's this really cool reveal of melon of his

706
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:10,520
face when lagochi corners him in this nightclub um and he pulls off his mask like to the like

707
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:16,840
like terraces in the middle and you see his face like his his teeth he's like a cell but he is leopard teeth

708
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:23,240
and he has leopard spots in certain parts which he has a uh a sloth tattoo over with melon leaves

709
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:30,040
because he wants to hide his his his carnivore part as well he's also the wearing the the the the

710
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:35,880
mouth of the mask over his mouth but that moment is really cool that's really effective it's um it

711
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:43,720
is like super creepy who i i i i bet this was one of the best and coolest pages in the manga yeah i

712
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:49,320
assume you just turned the page and then you see him tearing off the middle of his mask and you see his

713
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:55,160
his his his carnivore grin there with the with the sharp teeth and everything that looked really

714
00:58:55,160 --> 00:59:00,600
cool and i liked it i was like oh this is interesting okay this is a cool villain this is really uh

715
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:06,920
interesting and we then learn you know or even before that a bit we learn that this heavily also

716
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:14,680
relates to lagochi because he is also a mix he is um grandpa uh we get to get uh become acquainted

717
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:20,840
with him in the season he gets introduced here is gocha who had a history with jahia by the way they

718
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:28,280
were both like these rebels on motorcycles or whatever and then gocha um uh classic a classic

719
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:37,080
yanky stuff uh and then uh gocha um in one where they rest their rescue uh a wolf lady in some

720
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:42,360
situation because they already back then they were kind of doing vigilante stuff to a degree

721
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:48,520
and she falls in love with him he falls in love with her and they have a child which is some

722
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:57,240
lagochi's mom and yeah so lagochi is a quarter comodo dragon which i expected him to exhibit more

723
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:03,640
traits of apparently they say he has like the same eyes as his grandpa uh which is a very funny scene

724
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:11,480
when uh gocha is um going after harut to keep an eye on her to protect her when he learns that

725
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:17,320
she and lagochi involved and she thinks she's like stocked by some kind of predator and electrocute

726
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:24,120
him and he's like no i'm uh i'm lagochi's granddad don't you see our uh the the the uh

727
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,280
family in the eyes don't you see that we have the same eye shape and she's like you know

728
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:34,360
fucking comodo dragon the legs to keep him again and it was really funny so uh uh

729
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:42,200
but yeah that that's the uh that's uh a new thing we learned about lagochi i expected him

730
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:50,200
i expected to be that to be more important in the show again than it was it is important in

731
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:56,360
regards to the the themes you know interracial relationships and maybe interracial children those

732
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:03,160
being subjected to um bullying and to xenophobia and so on uh that comes into play very much

733
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:09,720
especially for our main villain and i guess down the road when you know uh it becomes more and

734
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:15,560
more about interspecies relationships and so on and the herbie was in these relationships being

735
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:22,680
in danger of being devoured and uh but this you know the society is still trying to make this work

736
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,600
and having this theme of hey we're working all trying to work all together that also being part

737
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:33,720
of the drama clubs play and everything so it all feeds into that but just in terms of our main

738
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:40,280
character it feels like it's a bit lacking in terms of what they're doing with that yeah there's

739
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:50,760
they sort of touch on that and it doesn't really come up in any significant capacity and like um

740
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:58,840
melon looks at him says oh you're a mix too and it's like that that's it yeah and i'm just sort of

741
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:06,680
sitting here like okay and yeah uh and you know there is um like there is this important thing

742
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:17,320
with how the relationship uh how how legal she's mom died uh i guess is is an important thing because

743
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:23,480
she apparently killed herself um because apparently mixed children don't exhibit like it don't

744
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:31,400
come out as showing signs of being a mixed child from the get go they uh the signs of that or the

745
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:37,800
the traits of that are developed over time and i think at once they're turned 80 or 20 or something

746
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:45,720
like that then they are full mix or something like that so her legoshi's mom lives her life as a wolf

747
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,880
a very pretty wolf apparently who gets a model contract and so on for most of her life and then

748
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:56,360
has a child with another wolf and that is like who she of course and then at i don't know when when she

749
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:03,880
becomes when she's in number 20s or something maybe she starts her i think she was she was like 19 20

750
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:13,800
ish she got her kid very young but she um she's that her comodo dragon skin starts to break through and

751
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:19,320
that kind of completely fox her up and she can't do of course a model career anymore she can live

752
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:26,040
a somewhat normal life anymore because things back then was i like mixed children mixed um species were

753
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:32,760
uh even ostracic ostracic even more back then then there are still or apparently in the time

754
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:42,280
that is today in the show and day so it's it's really supposed to be like this tragic story and when

755
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:48,120
legacy i think when he gets shot for the first time he has an out-of-body experience and meets his

756
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:55,400
dead mom like it's a nice albeit bitter sweet scene that makes liger she reflect on the regret he still

757
01:03:55,400 --> 01:04:04,920
feels to work not telling his mom that he loved her mix or not and i feel the blame is shifted a bit

758
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:11,080
too much away from his mom in my opinion like yeah i heard being half comodo dragon becoming evident

759
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:16,520
at a certain age uh which doesn't really happen to liger she during the runtime of the show it might

760
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:24,120
still happen probably thruster into a deep depression and being probably bullied and so on

761
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:29,240
but it feels like the show is trying to absorb her of her decision to kill herself and thus abandon

762
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:34,280
her child which in my opinion is an absolute no go once you put a child into this world how shitty

763
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:39,800
no matter how shitty you feel that is your responsibility and leaving that behind just to

764
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:45,080
ease your own pain is a really shitty decision decision i mean i make that easier myself that's not

765
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:50,200
how depression works and i'm pretty sure she was depressed even though the show never fully confirms

766
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:56,680
that uh but you know it feels like the show is really trying to absorb her of that especially

767
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:02,520
her saying yeah well if you said something the night before i had died things might be different

768
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:10,280
which sucks on the other hand this is just liger she's mind-conjuring up an image of his mom to help

769
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:16,520
him work through his emotional baggage so since he loved his mom even after she abandoned him he would

770
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:22,840
also absorb her of her being a shitty mom in his mind and put at least half of the blame on himself

771
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:29,000
so depending on how you want to read this is it's either it either kind of sucks or is a somewhat

772
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,960
problematic but still cathartic moment for liger she i'm leaning towards the latter how about you

773
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:44,600
yeah yeah great okay so it's still fine it's i think it's good in in if you read it like that that

774
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:50,760
liger she is working through his own stuff and wants to forgive his mom and everything and it definitely

775
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:56,840
gives him a new goal in the form of standing up for other mixes which he hasn't wasn't able to do for

776
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:04,680
his mom which liger she my man you were a child and nobody could ask you for that not even your mother

777
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:09,640
it was her job to take care of you not the other way around and she failed the reasons are somewhat

778
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:14,760
understandable i guess but she still chosen a ecotistic path instead of doing the one thing a mother is

779
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:24,120
supposed to do so her i i wasn't happy putting himself on that on himself but it's understandable

780
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:29,640
it's kind of tough no matter how you slice it though you know all the good of what of should of

781
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:35,480
you know it's a very complicated thing but i'm glad to show put that in there you know because it makes

782
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:43,960
kind of sense it also again it relates to melon um like melons psychosis is a result of

783
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:50,360
severe self-loathing induced by a society that celebrates herbivores and carnivores getting along

784
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:57,080
but regarding mixed children resulting from such relationships as freaks and he's like really annoyed

785
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:04,040
when liger she says he likes mixes like he cannot allow such an open show of acceptance to shake his

786
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:09,480
worldview so he shoots liger she the first time like you see he gets really like pissed off when

787
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:16,680
liger she just throws that in his face and it means it's also to throw a hiahiya of his game and

788
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:21,320
everything but i'm pretty sure after all these years of being ostracized encountering someone that

789
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:26,680
could be a person that accepts him as he is is far more dangerous to his convictions than anything else

790
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:35,480
and he can't have that and that kind of feels like becomes the main relationship between it too

791
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:41,000
liger she trying to reach out to him even when he says oh he's pure evil and so on you still feel

792
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:45,560
like he's himself not really convinced of that and he still tries to reach out to them

793
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:51,560
until the very end where he fights them or where he fights the but he still feels like okay he's

794
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:56,440
trying to reach out to the guy and melon on the other hand is like fuck you you know what i

795
01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:05,800
enjoy the hopeless look on people's faces before i kill them and i'm like okay liger she how you how

796
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:13,640
about you try to help another mix who has not already turned by society been turned by society in

797
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:22,760
a complete psychopathic piece of shit and you know it's still cool like using that in a

798
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:31,560
as a using melon as a device for this kind of discussion in terms of

799
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:36,520
children being bullied because they have a i don't know mixed heritage or something like that

800
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:43,000
and you know that's kind of his ultimate goal which is kept in the dark for a pretty long time

801
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:48,440
and then later we learn he wants to punish people in interspecies relationships because he belames

802
01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:54,680
his in his eyes egotistical irresponsible parents for creating him um he hates his mom which is

803
01:08:54,680 --> 01:09:00,040
understandable because she's pretty weird and has like this really weird and fucked up relationship to him

804
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:11,960
yeah it's not clear if his mom devoured his father because the way he looks the way she looks

805
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:18,120
in we say you have that look in your eyes like your father slathers her lips with her tongue is like

806
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:30,760
it's really freaky and of course if you want to read it in a real life way maybe don't do that that

807
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:39,800
that that wreaks like sexual sexual child abuse and you know so from that point of

808
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:44,760
you it's kind of understanding that you want he feels like he needs to punish people who

809
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:49,960
are responsibly bringing irresponsible bringing children like him into world and then causing

810
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:55,960
pain and suffering from them and he says life is hell for mixes since they are subjected to severe

811
01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:01,720
bullying and xenophobia he has experienced this kind of life and and wants to stop any more children

812
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:06,040
like him being created right at least he wants to show the parents to be the hypocrites that they are

813
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:12,520
and make them devour each other that's what he created keenness for and the other drug melt or whatever

814
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:22,440
that yes is weird cat shitting into people's coffee or whatever create um but yeah so there is

815
01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:30,680
there is that but the show kind of makes him out to be much clever than he is he seems to be

816
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:37,320
very superficial with all of this he is kind of like this joker character who is kind of like

817
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:46,360
this caotic force of nature and has kind of an an an artistic approach to things but it feels very

818
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:52,600
hey i've read about this thing once and now i know everything about it and i'm

819
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:58,760
i i i i i will i know more about it than all the other people and everyone who is trying to reach

820
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:03,320
out to me and trying to tell me something i just push away because they don't know anything anyway and

821
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:11,640
i'm just trying to play the role of this absolute absolute freequist enjoying this kind of shit

822
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:19,160
because that is easier than the other thing he's got he's got big we live in a society energy

823
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:27,320
and it's just like brother you the way you're going about things come on man yes there's this moment

824
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:33,320
where he proposes a sophie's choice to legacy like live in a world with no devourings but mass surveillance

825
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:39,480
or in a world with the varring but totaled freedom like how about instead of choosing between

826
01:11:39,480 --> 01:11:45,640
china or total lawlessness we choose a third middle of the road path thank you very much no that's not

827
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:52,120
possible it has to be my way or the highway exactly and the fact that legacy even gives this

828
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:59,400
drawman argument the time of day shows his naïve a day your right with psychopaths like when he

829
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:06,680
stands here to consider yeah i was like brother like oh she could do it come on and it's so frustrating

830
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:13,800
and it's so cheap and it's like man you had like this really you had like this opportunity to

831
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:19,560
create this really interesting villain that really has like this troubled childhood and he killed

832
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:24,680
like several of his classmates who tried to try to make him jump off a building and stuff like that

833
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:31,000
and all of that just grows and horrible and i feel sorry for that version of him and that version

834
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:39,160
that was subjugated to his shitty mom and everything but he made his choice so often and has become this

835
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:46,200
person that he is now and he's enjoying it so much or pretending to enjoy it so much that it feels

836
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:53,400
very hard to empathize with that version of him now and even legacy like he tries at the beginning

837
01:12:53,400 --> 01:13:00,760
very half-assedly and kind of half-assed and half-cocked and gets punished for it to a certain degree

838
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:06,040
even when his girlfriend is a danger he doesn't really change his approach that much and they're

839
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:12,040
so it also feels like they're not really doing what they could do like having really

840
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:21,800
you need to very world-savvy characters to clash here like you had to have an at least somewhat in

841
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:26,760
an intellectual same intellectual level as melon to debate him in this shit if you want to do

842
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:31,960
have a debate with this kind of psychotic person and they don't have that they say sent

843
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:38,120
lego she in the field who is just like this innocent dumb person yeah i mean at least

844
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:45,640
lego she in louis have the weird all to say hey your professor is dangerous and you should stay

845
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:50,920
away from him yes exactly i mean there's that and we already talked about how how we should listen to

846
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:59,400
them but doesn't because he's a bit like pick at it and yeah it's it's fine like it is the potential

847
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:05,880
of this of this entire storyline is more interesting than what they actually did that with it and how

848
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:13,080
they resolve it how they resolve it also not interesting at all it like ends in this big brawl at the

849
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:20,120
black market this this black market turf war that is also like really absolutely not important

850
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:25,240
whatsoever it gets set up set up as the thing and some main motivation of the shishikubi trying to

851
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:30,600
get the new boss and you know associating themselves melon and trying to get louis louis back and

852
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:36,600
everything but you know aside from that nothing comes out of that

853
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:41,640
turf war that is super interesting we don't get introduced to any of the other factions really

854
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:47,160
which makes it really weird that lego she is fighting one of them in the final episode that they

855
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:52,440
spend time on that instead of just fighting melon and everything and it doesn't have to do anything

856
01:14:52,440 --> 01:14:58,680
with anything it's just so other part but that's the finale of this howru is not really involved

857
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:06,680
in it except at the very end when she has like tells the mob that lego she is not a dangerous carnivore

858
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:17,320
he gets like framed for by melon by for a crime for murdered in the tattoo parlor also a thing like

859
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:24,360
lego she by dude you have been lowered into a trap several times by this character how the fuck

860
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:31,080
do you not run into this fucking office see dead people and immediately are like oh fucking shit oh

861
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:36,040
oh i'm being set up i need to get out of here yes i get it because lego she is not world savvy he's a dumbass

862
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:41,080
he's a little he's a kid he doesn't know what he's doing but it doesn't make it less frustrating

863
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:49,160
it's for the drama yes but it doesn't also also hey that doesn't work it's not like he gets caught

864
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:55,560
and it has to be torture or stuff look he is like he's like retreating himself to the sewers talks a bit

865
01:15:55,560 --> 01:16:01,080
with the rats and everything and i like these characters it's fun and so on but that is also something

866
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:07,320
that happens a lot in this show they have really cool cliffhangers they have really really cool

867
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:13,080
endings of episodes and it's like oh my god our character whoever that is is now in a really big bind

868
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:18,360
how is are they gonna resolve that and then the next episode that shit gets immediately either

869
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:27,480
like resolve undercut by a joke or immediately it gets deflated by not being what we thought it would be

870
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:33,000
and so much of that happens and you're oh my god lego she is gonna be trapped by the police and holy

871
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:38,280
fucking shit what is he gonna do and so on he's underrun and it kind of the show places kind of like

872
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:43,800
for laughs a lot of times and it's like an out it's not that serious he'll figure it out and it's so

873
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:50,360
weird it's so totally disjointed from what they are presenting at the end of each episode and feels

874
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:56,280
very cheap it feels like hey turn in next next time see what happens like Batman and Robin getting

875
01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:02,360
in the 70s show getting captured by the Joker and then in this in this death trap and in the first

876
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:07,480
minute of the next episode they just get out of this trap and that happens in this show so many fucking

877
01:17:07,480 --> 01:17:16,200
times and nothing really results from that I think the best cliffhanger is still the mid season break thing

878
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:23,720
after the first core where you know lego she gets thrown into the into the ocean and we know oh he

879
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:28,520
went out of this because there's this new character that gets introduced who is pretty cool suck one

880
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:34,600
who is like this despotted seal and we learned about this whole different society in that you know

881
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:41,480
that and the sea creatures are who completely different behavior there them eating each other is

882
01:17:41,480 --> 01:17:47,080
super normal in that society that's what saguan teaches lego she about and they have like really

883
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:51,720
interesting conversations about that and saguan is just a really cool character yeah I love saguan

884
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:58,120
saguan is fantastic and he teaches lego she when they have a bath together they he teaches him

885
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:02,920
what to say underwater when he's when he's in a difficult situation and how he can get help

886
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:12,280
and you know you get the moment melon like kicks him into into the ocean you know okay he's he learned

887
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:17,160
this from saguan two episodes before that's gonna come back now and you think that's gonna be the

888
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:22,200
cliffhanger and that would have been like okay that would have not really really oh how we will how

889
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:29,240
will he get out of that but then they actually end that episode on the reveal that melon works at

890
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:35,160
horus college and he's one of her professors and that's like a real good what the fuck moment that

891
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:42,680
was really nice and if if I hadn't watched the entire season in one go and had had to wait

892
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:49,160
between that episode and you know the the second half of that season coming out later I would have

893
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:56,120
lost my mind because there was a really really good twist which I didn't see coming um yeah I think

894
01:18:56,120 --> 01:19:02,920
the them dropping it all at once kind of did that a little bit of a disservice yeah so you know

895
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:10,520
there's some good stuff in there but most of that even with a good setup like this really tense moment

896
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:18,440
at the end of an episode they don't really carry it into the next episode that much and let don't

897
01:19:18,440 --> 01:19:24,360
make me wrong every time we have a scene with haru and melon together it's really tense it's really

898
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:31,960
scary you don't know what he's gonna do the next time it's kind of it's partially gets deflated by

899
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:38,680
the weird way haru in parts behave sometimes and but you know she isn't severe danger even though she

900
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:43,640
doesn't realize it necessarily or it's kind of fatalistic about this or it doesn't really care or

901
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:56,680
whatever um so it's it's really cool but it's not like there is this moment in the show later where

902
01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:03,720
haru is put in direct danger by melon and they have like this three very away conversation where

903
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:10,120
haru maybe has an effect on melon or on legacy or whatever all of this shit runs separately all of

904
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:18,120
that shit Louis is never involved in any of this really all of this is not directly anywhere not

905
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,600
directly no I mean he's involved in trying to find melon and it regard he's trying he's the one

906
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:28,920
who reveals to the public that keenness is like this dangerous drink right he gains some some

907
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:34,040
public recognition from that is on the track again to become the bee star and so on and there's this

908
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:42,120
weird conspiracy conspiracy thing with the mayor of the town who is a blackmailing Luis father and so on

909
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:47,720
it's also not really important it's like the one thing oh god maybe because Louis got himself

910
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:53,880
partially devoured or whatever he's being blackmailed and stuff and can't do everything that he wants

911
01:20:53,880 --> 01:21:00,680
to do can't reveal that the mayor is involved with this shit and also funded this drink or I don't know

912
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:06,600
it doesn't really amount too much that's a problem and it doesn't feed really that much into the main

913
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:13,640
storyline with melon and the confrontation with melon at the end it feels like that that

914
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:19,000
confrontation should have been like a bigger deal should have been like the thing should have been

915
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:23,640
set up differently there needed to be more stakes there are not really any stakes in the ending they

916
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:29,720
they have like this weird thing where it's like hey melon puts like his loses the fight against

917
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:38,120
lighoshi in the final episode of course he does and then puts his puts a gun next to his chest and says

918
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:43,960
and shoots himself which I was kind of pity pissed that the second would be somewhat spoiled that

919
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:54,360
it showed us the scene at the black market lighoshi and and melon confronting each other and melon

920
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:58,760
holding a gun to his head and I thought they would play like russian or latolas something like that

921
01:21:59,480 --> 01:22:04,440
by the end which didn't happen and that scene didn't happen because he puts the gun to his chest

922
01:22:04,440 --> 01:22:12,200
and then shoots himself which apparently survives for some how I don't know but then he says I

923
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:19,160
put the last hurrah ha ha joke on you I played the last joke on you lighoshi I'm gonna put your loved

924
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:25,240
ones in danger and apparently it's the show makes it out like he put a meat garnish with with the

925
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:31,240
smell dot drag who does the same thing kina's does in on the meteor fest at the meteor set it up at the

926
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:36,760
meteor festival so all the carnivores will consume it and then everyone all the herbivores will get

927
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,840
devoured and so on that doesn't really happen only the mayor drinks like a drink laced with that

928
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:46,680
shit and gets taken out pretty quickly like how is never in any real danger not of any of his

929
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:52,680
classmates are a louis I guess to a degree but not really because lighoshi is immediately there

930
01:22:52,680 --> 01:23:01,880
so out of this like it feels for for for a show that is really like in the back of on your mind is

931
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:07,880
setting up all the stuff that hey this is gonna all this shit is gonna come to a head here in the festival

932
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:13,720
and we gonna have all these people going insane with the drug and someone has to stop them

933
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:20,440
none of that should happen like it's like ultimately very unimportant yeah absolutely

934
01:23:20,440 --> 01:23:25,160
unimportant it's like it's background noise and it's like kind of a motivation for a Louis storyline a

935
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:29,880
bit to investigate shit and become more important again and rising through the rings we have this

936
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:37,160
weird storyline with his marriage like if he's he has an arranged marriage and we have juno bless her

937
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:44,200
heart who's just fallen heads over heels with Louis and tries to figure out how how to start a

938
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:48,840
relationship with him and there's some neat stuff in there like they we have this this talk with her

939
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:55,960
and taru who had also relationship with Louis at some point and juno doesn't know that but she has this

940
01:23:55,960 --> 01:24:04,840
they have this relate this this this this talk and it's it kind of becomes clear that juno is also

941
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:10,600
really into Louis as a person and not necessarily into him because she has a herbivore fetish

942
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:17,800
and that you know that was a nice moment and was a cool moment for a character does anything come

943
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:23,640
from that no their relationship gets wraps up in one two second scene in the during the credits scroll

944
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:33,800
and it's like come on what are you doing like Louis decides I can realize is he like carnivores don't do

945
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:39,240
herbivores don't do it for him anymore he he doesn't get get it up literally with herbivores

946
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:45,800
anymore so he he has problem like losing himself in his arranged marriage like building an

947
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:52,440
actual relationship with with azuki the daughter of a of another company and since that arranged that

948
01:24:52,440 --> 01:24:58,840
shit and you know he could that sounds like something interesting like he's like I can't be with you

949
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:04,840
because I feel more comfortable around carnivores now I I don't know why sorry I fucked up or whatever

950
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:11,000
and of course that is kind of an allegory to someone having a coming out and realizing they are gay

951
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:16,040
and they can't have a relationship a catch or a sexual relationship anymore of course it's that

952
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:21,240
but this sort of really do with that anything with that instead there's she's like oh I understand

953
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:25,880
that no I'm that doesn't matter to me you can live your life I'm only in it for the marriage and if

954
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:31,080
we want to have kids that can be achieved another way what the fuck and that's how the show ends that

955
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:37,240
particular relationship Louis apparently like does what his father once becomes the head of the

956
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:42,920
company and has this arranged marriage that is not going to be a happy relationship and his it's

957
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:48,040
going to just a dot have this fake marriage and it's like why is that the resolution for this

958
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:55,400
character are you kidding me show what the fuck is going on I mean what kind of message is this yeah

959
01:25:55,400 --> 01:26:04,760
I mean I guess at least azuki is willing to agree on part of that yes but it's not like that's

960
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:10,040
it the show makes it out to be like this nice things and it's like oh Louis your problems are resolved

961
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:15,240
because she doesn't really care about this and she just wants to marry you but she doesn't need to

962
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:21,240
have a relationship with you oh that's great that's fantastic yes that sounds like a fantastic

963
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:29,320
way to live like Jesus yeah that's fucking be up that was so stupid like all of that that fucking

964
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:35,480
plot line didn't make any fucking sense and then putting so much time into June or fretting over him

965
01:26:35,480 --> 01:26:41,640
like this goddamn high school girl that whole romance thing was so goddamn high school and was so

966
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:48,760
saccharine and it's like okay I'm not gonna be happy if they get together but maybe they will have an

967
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:53,960
extended talk about this and see that they have a different relationship or maybe now that he's

968
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:58,680
more comfortable only comfortable Kali was he realizes that he can build a relationship with her

969
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:03,480
after all even though they have like maybe this age gap or whatever and he says like I'm gonna wait

970
01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:09,480
for you but I'm gonna give this a chance or whatever none of this shit happens like she gets dropped

971
01:27:09,480 --> 01:27:18,600
like in the credits it's it's not in progress in any way it's so stupid it's so stupid it doesn't

972
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:25,960
matter none of this matters and the show gave me that feeling so many times by the end and it frustrated

973
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:33,240
me so much like all of these different plot threads that were set up by the beginning by the end by

974
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:41,480
the time we get to the end I felt like I don't know 1% of that mattered 1% maybe like if the stuff with

975
01:27:41,480 --> 01:27:48,680
yeah the stuff with Legoshee's granddad is cool right and I like that and I like the whole thing

976
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:53,720
with the mix and melon everything and that's probably the most juicy and most substantial stuff that

977
01:27:53,720 --> 01:28:05,880
we get in this show juicy like a melon like a big old steak yes but there's also you know and you

978
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:12,920
think okay Legoshee has this stuff with his grandpa and is a mix himself and that will more heavily

979
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:18,520
there will be a cathartic moment where maybe his granddad comes in and that shows melon that

980
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:24,760
because Legoshee is loves his granddad and everything and that shows him that deck is another way

981
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:29,800
and that doesn't mean that will like stop him from maybe that that would stop him from actually

982
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:35,800
having the people give put the drug up at the market or whatever he that's finally what like

983
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:40,840
pushes him towards Legoshee's vision of hey there is a different way for this but no the show doesn't

984
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:47,000
do that instead we get also this weird thing that involves the death of Legoshee's grandma which is

985
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:53,640
supposed to be tragic and romantic I guess but it seems kind of dumb to me yeah that was so

986
01:28:53,640 --> 01:29:04,040
what yeah I don't understand that it's supposed to be this very romantic gesture right because

987
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:10,360
it's set up that hey Commodal Dragons Poisons is toxic to everyone except

988
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:17,240
people who carry their genes like family members so look at she is immune to Goshas poison

989
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:23,800
his grandma and of course Legoshee's mom also was immune to his poison but his grandma like

990
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:34,760
Goshas wife was not and so Goshas always took very much care was very careful not to get any poison

991
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:39,480
on her and if he did he disinfected her hands immediately had her carry gloves and so on and they

992
01:29:39,480 --> 01:29:45,320
didn't they didn't didn't really kiss that much which makes me wonder how they fucking had a child

993
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:53,080
yeah I don't know maybe condoms don't work of course in this regard maybe it was not

994
01:29:53,080 --> 01:30:01,240
conceived the traditional way maybe they had an individual insemination I fucking know but anyway

995
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:06,840
so they can have that kind of relationship so what his grandma I forgot her name did

996
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:17,560
toky at some point she kisses Goshas and immediately dies and it's supposed to be this romantic gesture

997
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:24,600
was like I wanted to show you I wanted to make you not live not live your entire life worrying about

998
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:29,800
about the consequences consequences of our relationship I wanted to live have to live your

999
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:37,960
for once without worry without fear and cherish this relationship and you could do that only once lady

1000
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:45,880
yes and you know it's again very egotistical because she like now her her fucking daughter only

1001
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:51,480
has a dad anymore she I probably probably would have liked to have a mom her mom would have maybe

1002
01:30:51,480 --> 01:30:58,600
been able to help her get through the tough ship that she exhibited when that that she went through

1003
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:04,760
when she exhibited her body exhibited comodered rank traits at some point would have maybe changed

1004
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:13,160
things here and you know did this show tries to put it as this like thoughtful gesture

1005
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:21,480
and that thoughtful gesture robbed Goshas of a wife and their daughter of a mother like that's

1006
01:31:21,480 --> 01:31:28,440
dumb anime parent shit I hated this it was so stupid and the show doesn't understand

1007
01:31:28,440 --> 01:31:35,640
that it was dumb and horrible and I mean you could argue that by extension that rubbed like oh she

1008
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:43,400
of his mother obviously yes of course like I said like if if their grandma was his grandma was

1009
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:49,160
still around when her mom really got into depression everything she might have been able to help her

1010
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:55,000
with her love and she wasn't there I mean Goshas didn't succeed and he probably tried but hey two

1011
01:31:55,000 --> 01:32:00,920
parents maybe could have done something here and it's just so dumb and it's so dumb that the show

1012
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:05,800
doesn't understand that this is just not this romantic gesture that it tries to make it out to be

1013
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:13,320
and is instead a horrible miscalculation and a very egotistical choice in a way and oh Jesus Christ

1014
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:20,440
I I hated this so much and that is also in here and it kind of sullies the cool setup for this

1015
01:32:20,440 --> 01:32:26,120
and having this this this this interesting relationship between legacy this grand which is still cool

1016
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:31,720
and it's nice to see a Goshas realize that legacy can handle himself to a certain degree after he's

1017
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:36,040
been worrying about him so much which is kind of you know make sense considering what happened to

1018
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:40,520
his wife and everything and to his daughter but he sees that his grandson is better off because he's

1019
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:48,120
more headstrong he's finding his way in life he's still an idiot but he is he has kind of the strength

1020
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:55,480
of of Goshas in himself to a certain degree he has inherited that and can make it work and no

1021
01:32:55,480 --> 01:33:02,120
sea will is strong enough to find eventually is happening happiness with with Haru and that you know

1022
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:09,240
that is that is the ease that is the thing that makes Goshas happy and that is kind of a rewarding

1023
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:15,800
cathartic moment one of the very few in this season where it's like okay at least Goshas want to

1024
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:21,240
so much shit because of the relationship he chose and that wasn't a decision not made by him

1025
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:25,160
you know that it ended up the way it did that was decision made by his wife

1026
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:32,040
killing herself and then his daughter killing herself and so on he went through a lot of shit now

1027
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:38,360
he finally sees that there is can be a happy end for interspecies relationships and of course

1028
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:43,640
that is nice and everything but it also feeds very and you alluded to that in the beginning it feels

1029
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:50,200
very not necessarily convenient but contrived trying to get you to that cathartic emotional cathartic moment

1030
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:59,400
I went through this entire season just thinking this is going to have some like Romeo and Juliet

1031
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:08,920
ending where either or Legoshi or Haru were going to die somehow they just the flags kept going up

1032
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:15,720
and then Athena is like no it's okay and I'm just saying well I mean I'm happy for you too but like

1033
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,560
I mean I don't know if I wanted to or Romeo and Juliet happening

1034
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:26,760
Romeo and Juliet ending because no I didn't want that but it just yeah it just felt like they were

1035
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:33,560
trying to go towards that and then at the end of like nah and you know it could have been red

1036
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:38,440
herrings because that show kind of makes it out okay this is all interspecies relationships will

1037
01:34:38,440 --> 01:34:44,760
go this way right they will hand and sadness and a tragedy right that is what the show is painting

1038
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:50,200
it and that's Melon's worldview right that's that's the worldview of our villain so of course it feels

1039
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:57,480
like the show is pushing you towards this idea and I feel like them having a happy end by the

1040
01:34:57,480 --> 01:35:03,080
a happy resolve of that and becoming a happy couple for now anyway

1041
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:10,360
no matter you know if that will it will pen out but the show makes it seem like that will be the case

1042
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:16,680
I think that itself is not the problem even if it just arrives at the very end I think the problem

1043
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:21,800
is that a lot of that stuff doesn't feel earned because they don't have that much

1044
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:29,480
that much they have screen time together in the season but not screen time where their relationship gets

1045
01:35:29,480 --> 01:35:34,280
super evolved to a new level it's mostly them becoming with each other one arguing for is still

1046
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:40,600
stand and the other one arguing for no we need we want to do this now but also done not listening to

1047
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:46,200
other things the other characters to say and that's what more the a lot of them is communicating

1048
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:52,280
and only at the they have these these multiple fake outsets this moment where Haru stands on

1049
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:57,160
I don't know a chair or something or a table and he finally is she finally sent kissing hide and they

1050
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:02,520
don't do don't do that even though she wants to and he wants to but then he's like no we we need to

1051
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:09,000
keep that for later and it's just it's so stupid and you know it feels like there should have been this

1052
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:16,840
moment at the very end where Haru really threw in very active part and not just running into the crowd

1053
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:24,040
and proclaiming in front of everyone that that is her boyfriend and they don't need to be afraid of

1054
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:31,480
him because it's a carnivore that kind of never was out of the question that you would do that right

1055
01:36:31,480 --> 01:36:36,600
because she was always after the second season she was super convicted that she and legal she would

1056
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:42,360
end up together she wanted that to happen and it was clear that she would stand up for him in that

1057
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:49,800
situation that needed to be a moment where they both had to overcome a specific obstacle together

1058
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:54,040
in my opinion that would have cemented their relationship I've would have made it feel feel like

1059
01:36:54,040 --> 01:37:01,400
the resolve of that earned and then being able to finally have that and throwing it in the

1060
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:07,640
face of everyone society who say they can't have that or main villains say that they can't have that

1061
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:14,600
they may maybe even negotiate at times questioning if they have that having this big moment of them

1062
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:20,120
together overcoming an obstacle finding a solution to a big problem that probably should relate to

1063
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:25,560
the villain should have been in the show and it is not really in there that is not what we get as

1064
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:31,160
the finale of this we get the finale of legacy saving the day and then he's at risk of being I don't

1065
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:37,160
know stone to death or something like by people I don't know or they're getting their pitch for

1066
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:42,760
or so whatever and then Haru runs and says like no he's okay and then that's the I guess the

1067
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:52,920
that that is what makes this work and it feels so flat and boring and earned and everything the show

1068
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:57,400
was building up in its first couple of seasons and all the hardship it puts this character through

1069
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:02,760
and Haru not being really involved with any of the melons stuff aside of being a damsel in the stress

1070
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:09,720
for a while without really realizing it and so on and it's just just the emotional resonance

1071
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:16,600
wasn't there it never felt like the show did the lack word to make this happy and feel earned

1072
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:22,040
and that's the thing that bothered me the most probably like all of that shit that feels like

1073
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:28,040
it should have be connected all that shit that worked together it doesn't by the end like it's not

1074
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:38,920
here and yeah it's it's just that's how it is that's how I felt by the end of the show it's frustrating

1075
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:47,160
is what it is like there's there's so much interesting and good potential all throughout this part

1076
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:56,120
of the story and all of it either just gets forgotten or dropped or pushed aside or twisted in a way

1077
01:38:56,120 --> 01:39:06,360
that doesn't make sense in I mean I feel like I feel like there's still some level of enjoyment to

1078
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:13,800
be found out of this but it just doesn't come together at the end it's just really disappointing yes

1079
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:20,360
but several other little parts I don't want to go into details all of them uh but because I want to

1080
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:26,120
wear up this up but you know there is we have a couple of characters that get brought in and

1081
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:29,960
think there's more to them but there really isn't I mean Suck want to steal the best of them I would say

1082
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:35,480
but there's seven for example one of Legoshi's neighbor who's prominently featured in the first

1083
01:39:35,480 --> 01:39:43,320
episode they don't really do anything with her and you know then you also in regards to the pacing

1084
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:48,840
and keeping the tension alive I wish the cat and mouse game between melon and Legoshi was more tense

1085
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:53,880
in general the few scenes but you know the few scenes between melon and haru is side where she is put

1086
01:39:53,880 --> 01:40:01,480
in imminent danger maybe there's no real build up and the different parties like I said all act

1087
01:40:01,480 --> 01:40:06,920
independently so there's no real joint story to tell that could be created tension from here as well

1088
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:11,080
and even when the characters are kind of connected to the main plot their roles often seem much

1089
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:16,040
less important than they should be for example Yaya who is introduced as one of the more important

1090
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:20,440
characters as the beginning of the show like I said kind of just mostly disappears after the halfway

1091
01:40:20,440 --> 01:40:26,120
point like he's not in that show anymore he comes in again by the very very end and finally says

1092
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:33,000
what his point of view is but he's the fucking B star you would expect him to be more in this

1093
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:39,080
no-renew presence no effect on the plot fucking poof and he's yeah they're trying they're trying

1094
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:47,400
to paint him out to be like this mysterious guy and get some mystery what you actually do go yeah

1095
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:54,200
yeah absolutely it's a bummer I love the first two seasons of this right I mean we both

1096
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:59,400
that we were raving over it we's like oh man this is a little CG show I will see and then we were

1097
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:04,920
like fucking flawed by how good the first season was and then the fucking 10 second season when

1098
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:09,640
they finally reveal who the villain is and how fucked up everything that all was and everything with

1099
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:16,680
risk it was so good it was so strong and I feel like the season started out like that as well

1100
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:21,320
I've been started out strong and promising some interesting setups like what is going on with

1101
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:28,360
keenness who is the new ending medic medic villain what is Yaya the Yaya still will look

1102
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:32,520
as she a league of she and Haru be able to make their relationship work will the drama club work

1103
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:38,600
out how does that figure into the ending and everything the mixed stuff the interspecies stuff that

1104
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:43,800
gets introduced that's solid stuff but the further the season progressed the more became clear

1105
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:48,040
that the show didn't really have an interesting answer to any of these questions and would rather

1106
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:54,120
prefer the mostly threat water and meander into a bunch of different directions I like many of

1107
01:41:54,120 --> 01:42:00,040
its parts I like the drama club stuff but there's basically no interaction between them and any of

1108
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:04,840
our three main characters anymore and there was big part of the first two seasons that was the

1109
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:12,040
main setting mostly and what a goddamn kick in the balls that we didn't even like I already mentioned

1110
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:17,240
that we didn't even see part of the play and it being a success was mentioned only passing

1111
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:23,400
during the credits of the final episode that's still just as absolutely insane to me that was a real

1112
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:27,880
pester and I like League of Shies relationship to his grandfather would little we got off

1113
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:32,360
Louis and Legoshee together I also liked I think their relationship is still one of the strongest

1114
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:37,960
thing is strongest things in the show but there was not enough of that in this season

1115
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:43,320
but I like what was there I like same for the few bits of Louis interacting with the Shishi

1116
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:47,800
Goomi I think that is also a very interesting relationship and there's a legacy there through

1117
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:52,280
the second season and I could have done some really interesting stuff with that but also not

1118
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:55,640
enough in here we have a couple of scenes where they're like will you come back to us will you come

1119
01:42:55,640 --> 01:43:02,120
back to us and he's like no can't do that because ibuki died so I could get away from you so if I

1120
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:07,240
return to you now that will invalidate his death so I cannot do that and that is cool and that makes

1121
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:13,480
sense but it's still like there's nothing more in there and the Shishi Goomi are so much in this

1122
01:43:13,480 --> 01:43:21,480
season and you're like okay but what why and what are you doing the answer is nothing by the end

1123
01:43:21,480 --> 01:43:27,800
they're not important they could have done way more with that I like some parts of the progression

1124
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:33,560
of lighoshis and haru's relationship although they share share away to little screen time and relevant

1125
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:38,840
character and plot movements together in the season moments together in the season and let's face it

1126
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:44,040
haru is often used if not as a direct damsel then as someone that is always under the threat of

1127
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:50,920
being in danger to spring lighoshis into action she is not that much of a of a proactive problem solving

1128
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:57,640
character in this there's a moment when she investigates in the university in regards to melon

1129
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:02,680
because lighoshis can go there because he would be suspicious and so on and that is cool

1130
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:09,560
more of that please having her more of an active role in the investigation even though it's

1131
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:15,560
dangerous to her but she's a smart cookie and she she can do some some research in other parts and

1132
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:20,120
so on and she's had strong so it would make sense that she would put herself in danger in these

1133
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:26,680
moments but at least then it would make sense and not because she is not afraid of being like consume

1134
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:32,280
she would do it for lighoshis she would do it to save maybe after she learns that he's an interspice

1135
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:38,360
a mix she wants to also save mixed people and she wants to prove that she can have mixed child

1136
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:43,320
with lighoshis and everything and that's why she doesn't none of that is in here nothing I like the

1137
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:49,560
concept of melon as a villain someone mistreated by the world twisted so thoroughly by the society stigma

1138
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:55,400
put on his existence that he would lash out at society itself and try to dismantle it from the inside

1139
01:44:55,400 --> 01:45:00,680
that's juicy stuff but ultimately the show didn't do much with that promising idea then

1140
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:05,080
to make the guy the joker of this universe and a somewhat persistent threat to some of our main

1141
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:13,240
characters and like by the end none of these cool partially cool individual potentially cool

1142
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:23,240
pieces come together to say anything meaningful or give us any kind of emotional catharsis all

1143
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:28,040
these different promising gears are just joined it and don't really connect with each other and all

1144
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:34,520
the other million things that the show throws into these 24 episodes ultimately feel like somewhat

1145
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:41,880
cute character beats at best and pointless padding at worst why was yeah yeah even in this what about

1146
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:46,840
seven what was the point of her being in more than one episode what the hell was the turf war story

1147
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:53,720
that amounted to fuck all where we really supposed to give a shit about Louise finet fiancee or

1148
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:59,960
the corruption storyline with a mayor and horns because I sure didn't why are there two different

1149
01:45:59,960 --> 01:46:04,200
versions of basically the same drug that need to be established and get an otherwise completely

1150
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:10,360
pointless side character in the form of deshiko to exposition dump their origin on us yeah that

1151
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:16,840
that in particular confused the hell on me I was like why do we need this what is this for it doesn't

1152
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:25,880
ever really feel like any of it comes together matters yes for all that garbage out it's useless it's

1153
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:30,760
distracting it doesn't contribute anything of substance to the story or the characters and barely any

1154
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:36,120
of the themes like focus on our main characters try to spin a story out of them try to make them

1155
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:42,600
interact with each other more and try to have them work together to solving the main problem of

1156
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:47,880
the season which is trying to find melon getting rid of them and then have all the interspecies stuff

1157
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:53,640
relate to that but have have these three characters work together have them build this big

1158
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:58,680
this strong union that they had in the previous season now that they have this new life so we have

1159
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:03,880
this feeling of these core three that have a strong relationship maybe even throw Juno in there

1160
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:09,480
at some point make her part of the group I don't know maf saguane do a bit more but have these interesting

1161
01:47:09,480 --> 01:47:13,720
characters that are somewhat important and really contribute something to the story to the main

1162
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:18,200
plot have them work together on this don't throw any other weird shit in there that we don't need

1163
01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:24,760
and speaking of the themes I love the white swings the show takes in regards to its many

1164
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:29,320
various themes that I mentioned earlier and it's really interesting and somewhat thought provoking

1165
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:33,400
how it uses its animal theme to give us a potentially interesting new point of view

1166
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:40,680
on some of the substantial stuff the show has to offer I like the idea of mixes they introduced in

1167
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:46,680
the season a really cool idea albeit albeit way to underuse when it comes to our main character outside

1168
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:51,160
of him being able to somewhat relate to the villain which doesn't really do him any good though

1169
01:47:51,160 --> 01:48:00,280
because the villain is a completely irredeemable psycho I you know I really had to love laugh when melon

1170
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:05,880
shoots himself in the chest not in the head and we feel like I said and ligo she says melon don't

1171
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:15,560
die on me really dude really how are we still doing this grow the fuck up no no I have to have it on my

1172
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:24,280
way though and and even all the interesting thematic bullet points that are that are that are somewhat

1173
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:29,640
thought provoking and substantial in theory by the end felt like mostly decoration and didn't

1174
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:35,800
really deliver anything beyond the let's overcome our differences please even if it's tough message

1175
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:41,560
which is good and fine and nice but the show could have done so much more with that it really feels

1176
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:47,400
like paru itagaki had the story completely mapped out for the material that we got in season one and two

1177
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:51,880
and then the manga was a success and she was asked to write more and she couldn't figure out how

1178
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:57,880
and this is what we got it partially feels like a reboot even I think you're probably right about

1179
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:03,960
that maybe yeah like it even to a bigger degree than what we get with the tech on titan where it's

1180
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:09,640
obvious that isaiyama wanted to end the story once they resolved the main conflict on the island

1181
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:15,000
and see the open sea and then have like this ambiguous ending where they stay out a stare out and

1182
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:21,800
wonder if there's a peaceful world beyond the horizon that was supposed to be the ending obviously

1183
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:26,360
and then the tech on titan became this mega hit and then he just extended that which I didn't hate

1184
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:32,040
what he did I liked that more than other people so it was okay for me but here it definitely felt like

1185
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:36,840
okay I had the story mapped out for the first two season and I wanted to end this way and now I

1186
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:41,640
need to keep going and this is how I do it and it doesn't work out like the first two season had a

1187
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:46,440
pretty strong focus on the relationship between Ligoshi Haru and Louis our main three added to that

1188
01:49:46,440 --> 01:49:51,880
the drama club member characters and stories and the who done it mystery with risk and yes Louis

1189
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:56,680
storyline with the shishigumi in season two was already somewhat separate from the other stuff but

1190
01:49:56,680 --> 01:50:01,880
it worked as a good dark mirror to Ligoshi's trajectory and both of them trying to figure out

1191
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:11,320
where they wanted to go and also you know Louis kind of fondness of carnivores and dead playing

1192
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:16,440
into his character into the themes of the show like I already suggested earlier everything

1193
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:24,280
so all of that work and then ultimately and also the characters of with ibuke and Louis was great

1194
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:30,440
that work great that work fantastically and it all ended in both Ligoshi and Louis sacrificing a part

1195
01:50:30,440 --> 01:50:36,200
of themselves or their convictions to overcome a greater evil which is what I kind of wanted from

1196
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:42,200
this season if you kind of do the same thing again in regard of hey here's a villain mystery villain

1197
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:48,440
at least two degree and we're trying to capture and everything at least end it in a consistent way

1198
01:50:48,440 --> 01:50:54,120
they did that in the second season they don't do it here all of all of that just worked in the first

1199
01:50:54,120 --> 01:51:00,200
two season it first two seasons it rhymed it felt earned it was satisfying the final season had

1200
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:05,640
barely any of that and certainly not in the end we get a new villain who is pretty cool don't get

1201
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:11,400
me wrong but whose mystery is lifted pretty quickly and then is turned into a kind of prolonged

1202
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:17,960
cat and mouse hunt that is not super exciting or thrilling because our characters also don't

1203
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:24,920
really learn anything especially not Ligoshi the stuff that worked in season one and two is still

1204
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:31,720
in here somewhere but doesn't really fit together as it did before it also doesn't figure into the

1205
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:37,800
solving the main issue or resolving the main plot lines Ligoshi Haro, Louis, the drama club all

1206
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:47,480
feels too separated and then you get way too much irrelevant bullshit thrown into that mix as well

1207
01:51:47,480 --> 01:51:53,640
that makes this whole season feel like an unfocused mess by the end and it's a real shame and I'm

1208
01:51:53,640 --> 01:52:00,280
done venting now I'm sorry I just lost season one and two so much everything you said is so valid though

1209
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:07,160
like I couldn't agree more also I want to throw a complete Netflix themselves for them putting

1210
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:15,320
in the app on the preview a picture of melon without his mask on before I had gotten to that part

1211
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:20,760
of the story so I'm like what the fuck is going on with that so thanks for kind of spoiling that for me

1212
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:29,480
yeah like what is what is your guys problems like do somebody from an earlier episode so people

1213
01:52:29,480 --> 01:52:37,240
who aren't currently like you know they have they probably hit the pics at random pic randomly button

1214
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:44,600
that is also on youtube or whatever yeah but like it's so dumb like I saw that there and I just had

1215
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:50,920
this big question mark and then when they show him later on coming in with the mask on and then

1216
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:56,520
when the mask comes off so I was like oh that's what that's what that what oh cool thanks

1217
01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:05,880
yeah yeah it's it's a bummer just in general just how this show was handled how it was set you know

1218
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:12,040
the setup was good but how it then progressed and so on I I just lost season one and two so much

1219
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:16,680
and they were parts in this final season that I really liked a lot individually but ultimately it

1220
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:21,320
didn't work for me and I got more and more annoyed with it this is kind of like the the problem with

1221
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:26,760
this is this is what I feared fire what happened to fire force right where you have a really strong

1222
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:32,120
start and then it fucks up the ending and that stays with you that didn't happen to fire force thank

1223
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:38,760
me because that found its footing again and then actually gave us a satisfying finale and I was like

1224
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:44,120
oh my god thank thank god this is how it's supposed to be because then you are maybe left with a shaky

1225
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:51,400
thing in the middle same for my hero academia season four and five two two parts right but then

1226
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:57,160
found its footing again which you didn't catch John because you dropped out but I can confirm that it

1227
01:53:57,160 --> 01:54:02,680
found its footing again and then it leaves you with this really satisfying cathartic ending and

1228
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:06,360
that's what stays with you that's like okay maybe there were some parts in the middle of the show that

1229
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:12,360
I didn't like but by the end it got good again and it gave me a finale I was happy with that I got

1230
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:17,880
that with fire force I got that with my hero academia with B stars I got the fucking game of Thrones and

1231
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:28,360
and it was like why are you doing this to me show I loved for two seasons on two seasons unconditionally

1232
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that's so mean and it didn't have to be this way they were pretty evident ways out of this but

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apparently they didn't figure it out and that's just a bummer that's just a bummer anyway I mean

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John you already have taught me you feel kind of the same I can yeah you kind of encapsulated it

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pretty well like there was just the season wouldn't probably need an entire rewrite to save it

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which is unfortunate but I mean at least at least a couple more episodes yeah at least a couple more

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episodes or a rewrite in part or but at least the production was still solid all throughout so

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like okay let's let's end with that with a positive yes because that shows looks still fucking amazing

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like the color work yeah orange is still on the top of the game or is I mean we saw that with already

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once the season with tri-gun but this of course like the show looks fantastic the few couple of action

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scenes that are in there of course are super fluid but also the character animations these animals

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are coming to life and the the backgrounds are so beautiful in this there is so much rich color work

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in this and it's just it's such a goddamn pretty show the soundtrack is fantastic it's very somber

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times it very dramatic and moments sets this real nice jazzy tone to it and everything like I did in

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the first two seasons all of this is still fantastic we have some nice 2d animated moments even in

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there with the very first cool OP the second one is kind of lame because it's mostly clip show but the

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first one is really good a cool with some papercraft and model work in there really nice I mean at

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least the song in the last opening sequence is good not so much the secrets itself no no but yes

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the song is good so again there's so much good stuff in B-stars but it's just it didn't come together

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this season like if you want to watch it like you can do that on Netflix of course I don't know if I

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should recommend you watch this or not maybe it will work for some people maybe they are they are

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okay with what happens in the season and can look past the dumb bullshit maybe for some people the

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few good bits of character development and few good instances of abstract discussion of real world

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themes that are recontextualized here in an interesting way will do it for you to me it felt like

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the final season of b-stars was mostly just the sum of its parts and those parts felt very

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disjoint just disjoint it unfocused and messy and we should turn to differently but here we are so

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it's a bummer but it happens but hey we had a lot of great shows the season said that bass

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was not one of them but since we did we reviewed a lot of them still one little thing we have to do

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last of this season so yeah man John this was one of our most packed seasons ever

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yeah we did a lot of reviews we had some great debuts in the form of jojos dboran and fate

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stretch fake some awesome continuations like judo tsukaisenfrieden and gokameui to satisfying

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finalists with fire force and trigon and some really mixed bags via to your eternity and b-stars

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this season really had was a fully stacked roller coaster right with all the ups and downs you

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can think of so what what's your feeling John what do you want to put it on the pedestal

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man it's tough because like I mean golden com we is going to come back so you know we

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still have it's end we have it's ending coming up judo tsukaisen is coming back soon I think I saw

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date the other day I forget win exactly but it is soon ish free rental obi will without a doubt be back

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even though I don't think there's been an announcement of season three yet so I think those three

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as enjoyable as they were I don't think or fate like fate is also coming back I don't think those

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four I would choose from just because they're gonna come back and we could see how they shape

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up and primate a final judgment on them says the guy who loved golden com we so much that he said twice

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it was his favorite I mean who can blame you right you can really I mean come let's me fair you can

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give the best of the season of art to golden com we for any of its seasons it's it would top be

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total totally valid that's true that's true trigon and fire force both had I mean trigon's ending

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was neat I still had some weird issues with it with the knives and whatnot and that left a weird

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taste in my mouth but overall I still think it was fine fire force though it's just

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would a super cool final season that wrapped up really well and left us with something to chew on

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that maybe we might see come back in the future yeah maybe we'll see so honestly I think

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I'm thinking probably fire force yeah I think that's a pretty solid choice out of all of these

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but you know I don't think aside from maybe two year eternity or b stars you could pick a loser

1281
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out of this lock is they were all enjoyable for their own reasons yeah even Steve or Ron on faith

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02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:30,840
and and and and Frieden who were pretty short you know but it's like hey if you want to something

1283
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:37,320
something short and something great here it is like there's no regret picking those technically so

1284
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:44,360
yeah the fire force seems like a good choice so what do you think yeah I'm a bit of a bit of a

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bind here because I was so glad I'm sure it gives us a word to b stars and well I turned out the way

1286
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it did and now I can because it was probably my biggest disappointment the season of course I also

1287
02:00:55,720 --> 02:01:00,200
won't give it to to to your eternity but all I also didn't have the high expectations for that show

1288
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that I had for b stars I mean you could give it to b stars I think it's I'd raise an eyebrow but yeah

1289
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and I mean we gave it to b stars at least once before I don't know if we did it for the second

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or the first season but one of them definitely a pretty sure wait let me check is that true

1291
02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:23,880
yes we gave it to season one when that air you you did I gave it to winlens saga but it's fine it was

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on the throne it was on the throne so that's okay so but yeah that I ain't gonna happen so

1293
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:36,440
what what am I left with I think Steve or Ron and faith stretch fake leave really positive first

1294
02:01:36,440 --> 02:01:42,760
impressions but I think I'm gonna wait for the next batch of those before I consider them for the gold

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02:01:42,760 --> 02:01:47,480
likewise for even and just the guys and we're awesome each in their own right even though they

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are completely different shows but both of them already had a best of the season award and we're

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gonna get more of that so they'll get another chance I love golden kamui could definitely give it to

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that honestly every season of gold kamui like I said I would be fine if going back to them probably

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give it to them but I'm pretty sure I will give it to golden kamui as a whole again when it's final

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02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:20,840
arc wraps up in winter just to cement its epic legacy it has very high chances to completely ace out

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the competition there just as a like a complete picture giving it for that again because it

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brought so much joy into our lives over the years but yeah at least me with the finale of fire for

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some try and man on paper this is an easy choice between because in my opinion I know you have your

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grievances in my opinion try gun is the better show in pretty much every area just in terms of you know

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02:02:52,280 --> 02:03:00,280
being varied different story the storytelling itself character relationships and so on because

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fire for us let's be honest while it's very good it's still a very basic shown even though it has some

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very cool and creative ideas but I was so happy that fire for us found its footing again and

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delivered a really satisfying finale and I love author so it's super hard I thought the creative

1309
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choices in the final season were fantastic like visually it was super experimental in certain parts

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that was really fun to look at then we had the great the great connection to soul eater that didn't come

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out of nowhere but I was surprised how much they committed to that by the end it just made this

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so lethal I love that as someone who watched the old show that just completely was was year towards

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me to watch my sensibilities and what I like and it's like oh my god this is so cool so it's really tough

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but since you already gave it to fire for us and we love to have our cake and take a little too

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I think I'm gonna give it to try again again even though that also already for stampede got

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the best of the season award not only but also because I already gave fire for us a best of

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the season award last spring not for season three specifically but for everything that came before

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02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:26,840
it and the Arthur Bits in season three like the yeah uh should have maybe held probably held out

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until this season but I lost faith there for a moment and pulled the trigger too early I guess it

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happens it would definitely have deserved it for this season and it's gonna get it from you but hey

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if even if it didn't get it from you it got its use and before and try and also more than

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02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:48,920
deserves it in my opinion great production values one of the few CG anime I can recommend amazing

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soundtrack cool characters are really good self-contained two-core show with a satisfying story and finnalee

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some of the characters could definitely have used a bit more screen time and some of the resolutions

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02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:07,000
by the end were a bit shaky but outside of that and all the characters that get enough screen time

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like wolfwood like that like knives in my opinion are kind of awesome and I'm happy that we now have

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two pretty cool dragon versions we can watch if we feel like a bit of sci-fi western is an order

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02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:25,320
yeah I mean in spade of my misgivings about certain parts but I do agree that

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the dragon as a whole between um stampede and stargames is still great yeah absolutely so yeah

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then that's my pick and that's our the those are our picks fire forest the final season

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and try gun stargaze are our best of the season picks for this season and with that we've wrapped

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up this fully stacked review slate and we can probably see next season it's gotta be a lot lighter

1333
02:05:56,840 --> 02:06:03,000
we're probably only gonna have two we're only gonna have two anime episodes anime review episodes

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anime brain freeze proper episodes and probably one uh uh uh uh uh uh three streams per second episodes

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because we haven't done one of those in a while so that's probably gonna be that probably only

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three episodes at max next season but I think you'll be okay with that because this season you've got five

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so with a lot of reviews one either a three show review which we haven't done in a while

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which holy shit and I'm glad that our output is gonna be a bit slimmer next season so I can

1339
02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:37,720
catch up on some other nerd shit I want to I was itching to get to for a while it couldn't

1340
02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:45,080
because I had to take notes on shows uh which I like don't get me wrong uh it was super fun

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and it was really fun to vent about b-stars in this episode and just tear it tear tear it a new one

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because of its misopportunacies which I didn't have to do that but it was still fun

1343
02:06:56,440 --> 02:07:02,440
to really get into the nitty gritty of it yeah I mean it's it's important to point all of that out

1344
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though because especially with especially in consideration of everything that came for it was so good

1345
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and there's in there's there's the makings of something good in this final season but it just

1346
02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:22,200
doesn't come together yeah it's it's the perfect the perfect example of a misguided attempt

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of creating a somewhat connected finale maybe even as or maybe despite or especially because

1348
02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:35,160
they tried to streamline it from the manga and took out some important characters who knows

1349
02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:40,040
I won't find out probably unless I read the manga at some point maybe I would do that but yeah it's

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02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:46,120
a poster child for for missed opportunities um can change it that's how it is now that's what we

1351
02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:52,680
have to live with and hey it's okay there are gonna be a lot more cool anime on the horizon and we will

1352
02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:59,160
definitely talk about some of them in the future and until then just stay hydrated because the summer

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is a fucking nasty at least over here and she did to get yeah full disclosure uh we had to take a

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short break so I could let the dog out like this morning it was not bad out but outside of snow it's

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like oh my god it's so hot in the sun so please drink some water everyone absolutely and if you

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02:08:19,480 --> 02:08:25,640
want to treat yourself get yourself a nice cone of ice cream and enjoy the summer and we'll talk to you

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next time we'll see you then folks

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and that is a wrap on the 180 second episode of anime printeries now the music in our

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had a good time and please join us again on our next episode that's good so long everybody

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next time on anime brain freeze making friends is difficult especially when the world is frozen

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over!

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up on the mountain, be by your legacy, your foundation, your faith, your faith, your faith, your faith.

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you

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you

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(upbeat music)

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