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Hello, and welcome to How Did This Not Get Made?

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This is the podcast all about the moves you've never seen, the scripts that were never

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filmed and the ideas that never even made it to the page.

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My name is Daniel Kawka, and I'm Lexcee Riley.

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We're going to jump to 2004, way ahead.

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There are people that have been born and died in between that gap.

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Absolutely, and they've had a remix in between.

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We're not even going to talk about the Monster Squad.

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I was just going to say that Monster Squad.

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Monster Squad is a very fun movie.

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For the sake of time, seriously go watch Monster Squad.

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I do mention that in the Carpenter episode.

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You do, which is why I jumped to 2014.

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And we'll say that if this is your first episode, Monster Squad had nothing to do with

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Universal, it was a Warner Brothers production because, like I mentioned before, the creature

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is the only thing made by Universal.

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And in Monster Squad, they do have a Gill Man, but they had to change it just enough to

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skirt around the copyright issue.

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They also weren't really holding on to the rights of these things in the 80s, 90s.

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They were doing different movies.

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That just makes sense.

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Up until 99, Brendan Fraser Mummy, and we all know and love.

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You seen the bumper sticker.

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Yeah.

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I'd rather be watching the critically claimed 1999, the mummy, starring Brendan Fraser and

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Rachel Weiss.

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Like I said, we're jumping to 2004.

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For Van Helsing.

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And Helsing, you manoe!

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I can't you tell the world I work for you because we do not exist.

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This is supposedly rumored to be one of the first, like, launchings of a new cinematic universe.

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It seems more like a low-key accident into a cinematic universe, using an university

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universe.

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I think it had more to do with, like I mentioned before, its efficiency, but when you have

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Van Helsing.

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Right.

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When you have a Monster Hunter.

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And you're thinking, well, what monsters can you go after and you can kind of go down

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and be like, well, we have a lot of established monsters that are around there.

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And if he's going after one of the classic monsters, which is Dracula, you might as well,

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like, throw in another classic monster as well.

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This is four years before Iron Man.

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So I don't doubt that there is a buzz for interconnected stories.

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There were other plans that were supposed to go along with this.

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There was a rumored plan for a TV show called Transylvania that would have used the

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same props and sets from the movie.

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And then there was discussion of a possible spin-off.

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So maybe it's actually ahead of the game, but there's nothing concretely that's like this

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was the launch.

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I don't even think that it was a thought of we need to keep the song in the same universe.

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At this time, the 90s, 2000s, even in the 80s, the idea of creating a franchise was really

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make a sequel and not really make another movie that can joins with this movie.

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So given the success of the Mummy franchise, they brought back director Steven Summers

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because, you know, unto ever generation, a slayer is born.

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More than a vampire slayer.

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He's a monster slayer and a knight of the holy order.

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Question mark.

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Gabrielle Van Helsing is played by the ever-popular Wolverine.

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I mean, the singing and dancing huge act.

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The man oozes charisma, so I understand the casting 100%.

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Van Helsing is tasked with helping protect the Valerius bloodline by defeating Dracula,

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whose form aband, an alliance, with Frankenstein's monster.

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One of Valerius, the last of her bloodline, the one he's supposed to protect, joins him

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on his crusade, even though she's now in more danger.

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Together they face the brides of Dracula, Dracula himself, and a werewolf, which bites Van Helsing.

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And Anna gets kidnapped by Dracula and off to the masquerade so he queues the Phantom Reference.

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In the big battle Van Helsing, an werewolf form kills Dracula and Anna charges at him with

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the cure.

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He pounces on her and accidentally breaks her neck, but the vile with the cure did its

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It's probably the best CGI moment in the film is when he turns from howling werewolf into

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grieving Van Helsing.

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Don't worry though, he cremates her and she appears to him in the sky, reuniting with her

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bloodline, you know, the one he was supposed to protect.

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Oh, just like Mufasa.

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The film had a budget of 170 million, grossing 370.

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What?

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Where did it go?

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This is the time the early 2000s is where I think budget exploded exploded.

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They just don't worry.

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It grossed 300.

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Still baffling, but it wasn't considered a financial success.

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They just gave the director a blank check and they're just like, yeah, we trust you.

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All of the monsters that coupled with negative reviews, which rotten tomatoes called it

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a hollow creature feature that suffers from CGI overload.

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Rotten tomatoes can totally be hit or miss sometimes, but I tend to agree.

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It's a really big CGI overload.

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It is one of those moments and this is around the time that George Lucas was coming out

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with the prequel trilogy where he was proving and showing all of Hollywood that so much

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of our solutions is in CGI and you could really do anything.

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we want.

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The problem is is that they're not on the other side of the computer.

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Just because you can.

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And then the CGI artists are just like, what the fuck?

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This is why like a director like Gorgherbinski who did Pirates of the Caribbean, the ring,

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he was on the other end and he understood CGI.

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And when it came to him doing Pirates, like he knew how it works.

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Whereas if you have a director who has no idea how it works, he'll just be like, we'll

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fix it in post and then you have the skeleton going, well, fix it in a place.

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But Steven Summers did the mummy.

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So he knew how it worked.

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I think this is just design of the times.

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I don't think this is anything other than a byproduct of let's throw CGI in everything.

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He might have been surrounded by Yesman.

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This is my speculation.

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He did the mummy.

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Greatly successful.

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And the mummy too.

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Greatly successful.

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We don't talk about the mummy three.

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They have a heavy CGI.

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He is, yes, pushing the boundaries, but they also have their limitations as well.

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Coming off the success of the mummy, you're now surrounded by Yesman.

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To be like, can we do this as well?

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And they're like, yeah, we'll figure it out.

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And not really knowing just to be like, there's whispering in the corner and be like, I don't

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think we can do that.

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As someone who deeply loves the classic monsters, I'm going to be honest, didn't watch the

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whole movie.

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I've been on YouTube a lot of it.

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I couldn't do it.

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So I am not a proper judge, but I love the design of the old creatures.

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One of the main reasons is I watched the trailer and saw what they had done to my boy, the monster.

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He had like a panel on the back of him with electricity shooting through it.

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I don't know.

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And it wasn't the square shaped head.

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Like all of Jack prices stuff seems to have like gone out the window.

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The werewolves were 100% CGI and massive, which was cool for the time.

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I want to blame X-Men and other Hujakman movie because when it came to their costumes,

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they're like, you know what's really lame?

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Those comic book costumes.

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What's inside these?

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What would you prefer?

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Yellow spandex?

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And we're going to put them in black leather and not think any further than that.

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But they can't move in.

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It was like, oh, this way you can do with superhero movies and adapt it to the big screen instead

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of like trying to take the exact costumes that are to be honest, they look cool in the comics

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anyways.

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So instead of being like, those things are lame, we know what's cool.

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I feel like that's what's happening when it comes to the film adaptations to be like old

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Frankenstein, lame, old news.

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Don't care.

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We're going to modernize them.

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So keep the comic book idea fresh in your brain because 10 years are going to go by at

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the start of the MCU has already happened.

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And now we're getting another launch question mark with 2014's Dracula Untold.

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And now rather than sticking with Bromstocker's Dracula, the story went into history rather

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than mystery, focusing on Vlad III known as the son of the dragon, also known as the impaler,

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also known as Dracula.

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He uses his monster side to protect his family from the Ottoman, including a swarm of bats

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to deter the enemy.

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The enemy?

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At the end of the movie, we cut to a present day where Vlad meets a woman named Meena.

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So we do, Sneagan Elisdoker, who is played by the same actress who is his original wife

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in the movie, Marie Meena.

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The film had a budget of roughly 70 million.

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They learned their lesson.

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They learned their lesson.

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Grossing 215.5 million worldwide, but again, not considered a massive financial success.

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And again, rotten tomatoes have some words.

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Neither awful enough to suck nor sharp enough to bite.

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Dracula Untold misses the point of its iconic character's deathless appeal.

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The rumor moral swirls with claims that this is in fact a second launch into the cinematic

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universe, including reshoots of the future scenes to make it of more of a tie-in, which

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a universal representative has denied.

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After the negative reviews, even the slightest chance of any connection was put to bed.

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I watched this movie.

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It isn't bad.

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I get going into the Vlad Vien Peler of it.

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But again, if we are going off of the classic monsters as more of the comparison to the comic

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book, you just took a heart right into one of the most favorite and the original monsters.

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Luke Evans is wonderful in it, but it's definitely a hard sell as someone who also loves the

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gothic story.

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So then we've cut to the official, very publicized launch of the Dark Universe.

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Ah, the account with one tweet.

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The account with one tweet.

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Beginning in 2013, Universal had actually hired Robert Orchie and Alex Kertzmann to collaborate

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into developing a relaunch of the universal monsters.

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and Dracula and told us 2014 then of course they were tied together.

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They were tasked with creating a new shared universe and they were really searching for an

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MCU.

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To be fair, MCU is widely successful at this moment.

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2014, we are encroaching on Infinity War.

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It's just money signs in their eyes.

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And Universal is not alone in wanting to have a franchise like that.

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Warner Bros. trying to do the same thing with DC.

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It doesn't seem unusual that this is trying to happen.

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And you have it.

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You actually already have a universe in your history.

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And they made the mistake of not having an Abbott and Castello movie first.

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Thank you.

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Roberta Orchie would wind up dropping out and be replaced with Chris Morgan.

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And so Alex Kertzmann is directing the new mummy.

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And on May 22nd of 2017, this is when the tweet went out.

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So a tweet went out.

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And Universal unveiled a new motion logo designed by Weta Digital.

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Oh, what a.

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And a musical theme by Danny Elfman that would play before each film starting with the mummy.

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So we're going to connect this all together with a logo.

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So a lot of people really love the logo because I get it.

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You turn around the iconic Universal logo and it is the dark side.

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I understand.

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I get it.

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But here's the thing after watching so many of the classic movies back to back.

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I miss the plane.

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Old timey black and white Universal.

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Like that's what I want.

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I want the Universal logo to move like it does.

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We go to the dark side.

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We can go back to black and white with the little plane and then the dark universe goes

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across.

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I wanted more of a throwback moment and not more CGI.

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My guess is that we are looking forward.

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We are not going back with the plot of the mummy.

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We were 100% not going back.

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Do you see this movie?

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I saw it a while ago.

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I actually I saw what I was doing research for the creature and something I mentioned to

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you before.

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So you remember it in detail?

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Let's go through it.

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Plot point by plot point.

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It's one of those movies that just did not stick with me.

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Yeah.

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I remember Jake Johnson.

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Nick Miller.

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What do you know what Tom Cruise is in name is?

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Nick.

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Oh, it didn't stick with me.

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I remember the mummy girl with the two pupils in one eyeball.

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Yep.

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And I thought that was really neat.

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Her design was really cool.

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She was really cool.

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Okay.

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I didn't take notes on the movie, but I did watch it.

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So I'm just going to free hand go through it real quick because we have to understand why

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what happened happened.

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So they announced that Tom Cruise is going to lead the new mummy.

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At one point, there's also a rumor that he was going to be like a doctor, jackal, hide

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character, but that seems to be pretty squashed.

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So we are doing the mummy and it is Tom Cruise as a military man with his friend Nick Miller.

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They are...

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Spiruluncings?

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Splunking.

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Yeah.

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They don't go splunking until later.

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And the whole point is is that Nick Miller, oh, poor Jake Johnson, Nick Miller, I don't

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know why I can't remember his character's name, but the two of them are thieves.

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But we are not in Egypt anymore.

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We're in Iraq.

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No.

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Because...

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And I get it.

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So the lore of the new mummy, which again escapes me what her name is, but the lore is that

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she was supposed to be queen until her father had a son.

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And I'm totally probably watching this.

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So please don't fact check me.

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But basically she winds up killing a baby in the opening.

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So we are already not going to care about her.

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You are already just evil.

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No.

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If we've learned anything from Save the Cat, save the baby first and then she accidentally

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drops it in the Nile.

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All we learn from her right out the gate is that she wants power.

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What did Emo De Boan in the original and 99 version?

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He wanted his love.

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Right.

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He just wanted love.

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That's it.

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Yeah.

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It's relatable.

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But we all love.

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Everyone wants love.

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So we got to our modern day and I racked her treasure hunting and then because she had killed

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said baby they had shipped her far away, which is why she's not there.

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That's why she's in Iraq.

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Yes.

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Sure.

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Anyway, in their treasure hunting, they wind up like tanking this village.

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Just ruining it.

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This is where they go splunking with the pretty blonde lady.

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Because when she walks in, it's clear that she and Tom Cruise have slept together and

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he wasn't very good and we're going to make a lot of puns about them.

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Yeah.

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We see the same thing in America.

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They do this blunking and our buddy Jake Johnson/Nick Miller/can't remember character name gets

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bit by something.

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Yeah.

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But it's not a scarab.

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Like those were terrifying as child.

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Oh, all right.

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Bring them back.

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Yeah.

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But that's not what bites him.

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We have the sarcophagus we're on the plane and our buddy Nick Miller goes insane.

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He kills the like head military guy and he starts trying to kill everybody else.

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Then Tom Cruise has to shoot his best pal.

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Oh, man.

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So this is the second episode where Tom Cruise has to kill his best friend.

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Yeah.

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So then it gets real fuzzy from here because we start jumping around because is it that

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the mummy is in love with set set gets in here somewhere whether he's giving her power

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or whatnot.

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That becomes a part of it and then we jump.

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This is where we go to the universe building.

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We put a quick pause on the mummy story.

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We jump to Dr. Jekyll's mansion.

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Prodigium.

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Prodigium?

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Yeah.

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You could never pronounce this.

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I remember.

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Well, it's because when Russell Crowe, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde says it.

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He says it with his accent and he says it so well that I'm like, well, I'll never be able

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to recreate that.

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Welcome to the Digium.

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So he's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and unlike the original where we see this like monstrous

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form takeover and is very unsettling, he becomes like super heroesque, super strength and

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creepy eyes.

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Yeah.

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But we are in his big mansion slash agents of shield.

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Law is dropped.

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That's sort of what it feels like it feels like we are trying to get introduced to a

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Nick Fury archetype of I'm the person that will get the band together and the business

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being evil.

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Mr. Morgan.

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Recognize, contain, examine, destroy.

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I get why they did Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde because it is the OG, the original and Russell

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Crowe's great man.

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He even was supposed to get his own solo film.

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But why are we in this movie?

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We jump to a different movie.

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Yeah.

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It's like they had a completely different script and then produces like, well, we have to put

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in some major scene to like make sure that we can launch from somewhere which using Dr.

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Jekyll as a launching point.

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It's an interesting move.

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You can connect a lot of things there.

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But if you want to tie it into the story, why not Van Helsing or Dr. Pretorius.

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Yeah.

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But like if you go to Van Helsing to be like, hey, we got like an evil mummy.

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Right.

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Trying to kill us, you know, who could kill that mummy?

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A monster hunter.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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I have a feeling that they didn't want to use Van Helsing given the 2004 version.

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Possibly.

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So they're trying to stay away from Dracula and they're trying to stay away from Van Helsing.

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That all happens in his like monster office.

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We do see the creature from the Black Lagoon, like the hand, lady mummy and her mercury powers

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are there.

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And then Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde are having their inward outward duel.

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And our lady friend, winds up like having to fight to get Nick, not Nick Miller, but Nick

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Tom Cruise out of the room that he's trapped in with Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

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And when she does this, she winds up taking a book, a random book off the shelf and like

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hitting the guy over the head with it.

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This book is the Necromancer is the book of the dead in 1999, mummy's book of the dead.

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Oh, yeah.

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But there is so much monster lore in here that I'm like, oh, this, I want this to work.

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I need this to work.

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So then we learn about prudygium and how it is trying to basically gather all the evil.

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And then we put a pause on the universe and now we're back to the mummy.

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The token lady friend winds up dying and Tom Cruise and the magical staff and the mummy

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have a fight in which he steps himself.

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Okay.

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And now becomes a mummy, the mummy.

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He now becomes set.

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So he brings lady friend back from the dead and his buddy, Jake Johnson and we cut to them

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in the desert.

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I don't remember if he's like off to find a cure or if there's off to steal more fun stuff,

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but the two of them are basically back to the beginning where they are going through

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the desert to keep their adventures going.

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If we go back to the theme of the originals, like we're going to say those are the comic

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books we're going to say that that's like the original lore.

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What does monster do?

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They don't want to kill people.

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They are misunderstood.

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Correct.

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Monster accidentally does something bad and monster dies at the end.

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Tom Cruise is now invincible, much like a superhero.

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Yeah.

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So that is the end of the mummy.

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There is no mid-gradancy and I totally understand there trying to do it in a different format

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which I appreciate.

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I think this universe could have gone to really cool places and the slate of monsters set

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to return is the really fun part.

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So as we said, we have Russell Crowe as Dr. Jacqueline Mr. Hyde who was supposed to get

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a solo home.

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So he's in a photo that came out with the lady mummy.

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So I am so sorry to Sophia Batella.

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She plays Aminat who is the new lady mummy.

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It's Sophia Batella, Russell Crowe, Tom Cruise and then you have Johnny Depp in this photo.

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Who is supposed to be the invisible man and then you have Javier Bardem who is supposed

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to be the monster.

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The monster is in.

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Yeah, Frankenstein's monster.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah.

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You have this set of people in this photo which is the tweet that went out was like get ready

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for a new era of gods and monsters.

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Dr. Pretoria is his famous line.

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That's the only tweet.

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However, it goes deeper than that.

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So this second movie that was set to launch in the cinematic universe was supposed to be

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the bride of Frankenstein, not Frankenstein but the bride of Frankenstein with Javier Bardem

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and Angelina Jolie as the bride.

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Oh, not Scarlett Johansson.

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No, no, no.

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And then Bill Condon who had done like Beauty and the Beast was supposed to direct.

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It was set to release on February 14th, 2019.

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Happy Valentine's Day folks.

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It was described as a liberation tale for the female monster.

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Move over 50 shades of gray.

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I don't know.

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Listen, as someone who loves the bride of Frankenstein, I wish they would have started

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there.

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I don't know about starting there, not to say that this movie shouldn't be paid.

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I think that you just need to concentrate on one monster first.

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The problem with trying to establish the franchise or try to create a sequel is the studios keep

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getting the one thing wrong where they're like, we have so many characters.

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And we need to like mention them or show parts of them throughout the whole movie, sprinkle

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them in, set something up.

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And here's the thing, MCU, wait started was you focused on one character.

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I mean, we can look at Iron Man, but you can also look at even before the movie.

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Then the lesser successful Hulk movie, but the thing is what that movie is that they were

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like, we are making a Hulk movie first.

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And then to tie it together, then you had Nick Fury, right at the end to be like, in

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the end credits, yeah, to be like, I want you to join a team or at the end of Iron Man,

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to be like, there is so much more right than your little world.

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And that is how you do it is that you make a good monster movie first.

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So even if they did bride, Frankenstein first, just focus on that.

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Just make it a really good movie.

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And then at the end of it, doctor, Pretoria's turns around in a swivel chair and is like,

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I come to you to make a team really.

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The monster has like bite marks on his neck.

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We like, that's strange.

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I don't know where that came from.

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Dracula goes after the bride instead and then end credits.

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Right.

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But there was more roles rumored for this universe.

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Excellent.

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We go to Channing Tatum as Van Halsey.

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Yeah.

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Luke Evans returning as Dracula for Dracula and told to Dwayne the Rock Johnson as the wolf

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man.

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Interesting.

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And Scarlett Johansson was actually rumored as Kay in the creature from the Black Lagoon.

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That rumor I do remember, I remember it wasn't ever really confirmed.

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No, these are all like in the rumor mill of romance.

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A lot of it was like wishful casting, but yeah, I do remember Scarlett Johansson coming

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up a lot as Kay.

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I mean, it really makes sense.

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In a modern day setting, she is that part.

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Oh, yeah.

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I think my favorite one that is not a rumor because the director Palfee confirmed it was

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a movie called Dark Army.

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We're talking about Palfee director Fried's Man.

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Many monster films.

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He said, I want to bring that ooki spooky feeling back to movies with these monsters

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you root for an understand at the same time.

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Start there.

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Just kidding.

483
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That movie, I think, sounds really fun.

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I think the other thing, we keep going back to the MCU, but I think throwing out the MCU

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and just talking about a cinematic universe and why it would work.

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Each movie can have its own tone.

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If you want to go the abit and can still out and do some spooky season comedic thing

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with the feeling of those original movies, that is a way to bring both the classic monster

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fans and modern day fans in.

490
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,840
I don't know, maybe we will, maybe we won't.

491
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,800
That's the one that he still really wants to do.

492
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,280
So, Fingers crossed.

493
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,240
Do you want to see, and I'm going to be specific, because I'm going to ask it several times.

494
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,280
Do you want to see this version of the Dark Universe get made with Pradigium?

495
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,280
No.

496
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,040
There's too much going on.

497
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:27,560
The angle that they're going at of like, we need to get the band back together, type thing.

498
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:33,040
I don't like that idea, because these monsters, they're not superheroes.

499
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,560
There's the ticket.

500
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:40,080
Thing that I can see a correlation between Van Halstein, Dracula and told, and the mummy,

501
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:45,920
is that the monster is lose their sort of spooky gothic vibes and become straight up

502
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,920
superhuman.

503
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:47,920
Yeah.

504
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,920
I don't like that angle.

505
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:55,520
The reason why monster movies work so well is that you have a misunderstood creature.

506
00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:01,800
That should be the heart of it is that it is a scary looking thing wanting to do good,

507
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,240
opposing people who want to do harm towards that monster.

508
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,240
Yeah.

509
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,760
I don't think that this failed necessarily because lack of desire.

510
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,720
I know that a younger generation might look at the classic monsters and be like, oh,

511
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,720
they're dated.

512
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,960
Oh, the effects aren't good.

513
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,840
Or the editing is choppy.

514
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,280
They're simply not deemed scary by today's standards.

515
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:27,440
But I think the one thing that always makes horror great, regardless of time is tension.

516
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,880
The tension in the classic monster movies definitely holds up.

517
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,400
We're going back to that sense of tension.

518
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,360
I don't think that love for the original monster movies will ever go away because of that.

519
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:38,680
No, and it still doesn't.

520
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,440
And it's still being marketed today.

521
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,800
There's no shortage of monster content before we get to current monster content.

522
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,240
Yeah, because I really want to talk about the movies.

523
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,040
I know.

524
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,040
I agree with you.

525
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,280
I don't know that I would want to see the prodigium.

526
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,280
Like the prodigium as a thought is cool.

527
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,520
Maybe if it was a TV show.

528
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:04,960
I am a sucker for emo depth and I don't want him to go away.

529
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,880
No, you know how you use Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde.

530
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,880
In a solo film?

531
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,080
I don't know if you ever watched the back to the future animated TV show.

532
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,080
I did not.

533
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,080
So please educate me.

534
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,320
There's a moment at the end.

535
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,400
It's like science corner with Dr. Brown.

536
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,920
Christopher Lloyd would come in and actually teach kid science.

537
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:22,920
Oh hell yeah.

538
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,560
I'm going to watch it now.

539
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,560
Yeah.

540
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,480
If you had at the end, just be like Dr. Jekyll is to be like, welcome to my laboratory.

541
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,480
My pernigium.

542
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,960
Let me tell you about this creature right here.

543
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,520
This one swims in a lagoon.

544
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:41,040
He is very territorial, but loves the ladies.

545
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,520
I was just going to say make it a children's short, like the group series.

546
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,000
He really loves the late, no, maybe don't make it for the children.

547
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,520
And then like he starts to morph and be like, whoop, gotta go.

548
00:28:52,520 --> 00:29:07,080
Okay, so as I was saying and you are so itching to talk about, there's no shortage of

549
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,800
monster content.

550
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:14,880
The official end to the dark universe, or at least this time's try, came in 2020 with the

551
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:20,640
release of the final movie we saw before the pandemic March 8th, 2020.

552
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,440
In the Elizabeth Moss vehicle.

553
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,880
The Invisible Man.

554
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,200
It is produced by Blumhouse and directed by Lee Wanell.

555
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:36,520
This movie garnered critical and financial success at the start of a world wide pandemic.

556
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,200
Yeah, it was probably the most successful film of 2020.

557
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,840
How much do you think the movie cost to make?

558
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,160
I would guess like 5 grand.

559
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,560
Okay, give me a number.

560
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,560
Okay, fine.

561
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,680
It's Blumhouse because he always cuts it off at 30 million.

562
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,680
Lower.

563
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,720
So they definitely catered to Jason Blum himself.

564
00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,720
Sure did.

565
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,720
Yeah, and they were like, we can easily make this movie for 10 million.

566
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,720
Lower.

567
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:09,480
And they were like, well, let me do you one better because we can make it for 5 million.

568
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,920
The movie cost $7 million to make.

569
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,000
And they're like Elizabeth Moss is just a little more expensive than that.

570
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,720
So we're going to have to give her to $2 million more.

571
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:25,040
I cost $7 million to make and grossed $845 million at the start of a worldwide pandemic.

572
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,040
Goddamn.

573
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,040
Okay, so spoiler time.

574
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,760
You've had four years in a pandemic to watch this movie.

575
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,520
Yeah, but if you haven't seen it, skip ahead because we're going to talk about it.

576
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,720
I actually wrote my notes.

577
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,080
Now, Dan, I know we watched this movie and I did check the AMC A list to see that we saw it.

578
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,960
I since defunct AMC A list account.

579
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,160
Oh, I still have mine.

580
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,960
I can go back all the way to 2020.

581
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,600
It's like two movies and another.

582
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,600
I can't.

583
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,800
I will explain that story later, but I will.

584
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,800
Off the ear.

585
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,800
Let's do this one.

586
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,800
Well, you know the story already.

587
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,800
I do know the story.

588
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,640
There's a lot of reasons to like this movie.

589
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,840
Many sites that I've read deemed it as a feminist horror piece.

590
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,840
Okay.

591
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,760
I can see it, but I think it goes beyond that.

592
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,480
I think it is more paranoia.

593
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,600
It's more of that fear of the unknown.

594
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,880
It's really smart.

595
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,640
It's really calculated.

596
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,800
The score, the script, I would even go so far to say is the acting is great, but it innate

597
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,800
the star of the show.

598
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:19,800
Okay.

599
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,800
So there's one scene in particular.

600
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,800
The kitchen scene?

601
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,800
No, not the kitchen scene.

602
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:28,160
But the one that always catches me off guard and I've watched this movie a handful of times.

603
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,200
Usually while I'm doing something else and this scene makes me stop in my tracks every

604
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,200
time.

605
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,120
She meets her friend in a restaurant full of people.

606
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,120
Yeah.

607
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,120
Okay.

608
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,800
You don't know the entire movie you are on edge because you know that he's there.

609
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,120
And now we're in public and you're like, oh, I can let my guard down because I'm in a restaurant

610
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,120
full of people.

611
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,840
The air is actually super right with tension.

612
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,800
And just as Elizabeth Moss's CC is explaining exactly what a dream is doing in the Invisible

613
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,800
Man.

614
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,000
The entire plot twists.

615
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,440
It is four cuts in six seconds.

616
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,400
The knife raises cuts her friends throughout and before CC can even blink, that knife is

617
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,400
in her hand.

618
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,400
Yeah.

619
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:21,800
And some kind of suit that Adrienne has built and it has cameras and it somehow, what?

620
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,000
Before we can even register what's going on, it is flipped and now she has committed

621
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,000
motor.

622
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,080
She hasn't, but it looks like it real well.

623
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,560
That's the perfect way to frame someone for murder.

624
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,560
Yeah.

625
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,360
On my like 75th feeling, what I realized is he's given her a way out.

626
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,360
How so?

627
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,000
So this is the bigger spoiler.

628
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,560
That's how she kills Adrienne.

629
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,560
Oh, yes.

630
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,560
Yes.

631
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,920
So like he actually is giving her the out of the whole situation.

632
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,920
That's the story.

633
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,600
She winds up killing him in the exact same way that he kills her friend.

634
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:57,920
And then when she walks away, bag in hand, we get a glimpse of the Invisible Suit, which

635
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,680
now the Invisible Suit, it's not monochaine.

636
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,120
It is a bunch of little censored cameras.

637
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,120
Yeah.

638
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,160
It's the technology that they use in 007, Die Another Day.

639
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,600
I've never seen it.

640
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,240
They show him the car, the Ashton Martin.

641
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,240
Oh, yes, yes, yes.

642
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,240
And they're like, it turns invisible and they're like, how does that work?

643
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,440
He's like, well, there's tiny cameras on one side of the car and it projects on the other

644
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,240
side of the car to make it look invisible.

645
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,240
Same technology.

646
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,880
It's kind of like how, it's like how office space use the heist from Superman 3.

647
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,000
They do it in such a good way, though, that I never even put two and two together because

648
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,840
like in the 30s, drugs and like monochaine is fitting of the times.

649
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:43,280
This is taking the same sort of like crazed man, but setting it in today's world, which

650
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,400
is the best use I think I've seen of updating the monsters.

651
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,400
It's a brilliant use of doing so it's like with the Chuckie reboot, the one with uproar

652
00:33:51,400 --> 00:34:00,120
Plaza as a very young mother, yes, but instead of something possessing the doll, it's technology.

653
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:06,360
Yeah, you have a AI glitch that turns on people and it's like, okay, that's how you, Megan

654
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,360
before Megan.

655
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,360
Yeah, that's how you can modernize it.

656
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,200
Megan, oh, I broke Dan.

657
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,200
I love Megan.

658
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,000
I also love Megan, also Blumhouse, also in Brazil.

659
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,680
But so she walks away with this bag in hand and we get the glimpse of the suit and then

660
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,160
we linger on her face and then we roll credits.

661
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,560
There's this wonderful era of mystery and all I'm going to say is I am still waiting for

662
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,560
the invisible one.

663
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,560
It's all fine.

664
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,160
This should have been the Iron Man and then you toss in a mid-credits scene and credits

665
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,160
scene.

666
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,160
She's in a library.

667
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,760
Who does she run into?

668
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,480
None other than Rico Cotto, let the Brenna sounds begin.

669
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,480
That's my dark universe.

670
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:50,560
I mean, this is how, like I mentioned before, is that you need to focus on the singular monster

671
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,960
and the invisible man.

672
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:58,000
You need to make it a compelling story and it needs to be something that isn't shoe-horned

673
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000
in.

674
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:05,560
That's what the mummy, that's where it failed is like we have to shove in the mummy story.

675
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,200
We have to shove in Checkland High.

676
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,440
You have 1999 is long ago, I know, but not that long ago.

677
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,800
And that is a beloved movie.

678
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:22,580
Of all of the ones to redo, I'm like you had a lot of intense fans that not only love Rick

679
00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:25,760
and Evie, but love emo-tep.

680
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,600
So to just hard-write it, that's going to be regardless of classic monsters.

681
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,080
Just taking those two movies is a real hard sell.

682
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:38,640
I mean, you could make it in a way where like Brenna and Frazier Rachel Weiss, Captain

683
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,640
in Woods.

684
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,640
They're in a library.

685
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,640
She is a librarian.

686
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,520
They go to a library in the Captain in the Woods.

687
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,520
Full of monster books.

688
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,520
It writes so.

689
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:50,600
Brenna and Frazier is working on making sure that those shelves will never tip over anymore.

690
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,600
Never.

691
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,440
They've got metal bolts in between them and then lightning comes down, hits the metal bolts

692
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,640
and then suddenly their son Frankenstein's monster.

693
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:04,360
And Secret Agent comes in and be like, we need you to go to Transylvania.

694
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,360
My point still stands.

695
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,360
Yes, it does.

696
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,400
You create a monster movie with a protagonist who is going after the monster.

697
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,960
You don't make the monster the protagonist.

698
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:19,440
You make a story focused on that singular monster and then you can expand on it further.

699
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,000
Yeah, you have to deeply care about the non-monster characters.

700
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,160
We still have monster needs.

701
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,920
And so we're getting a series of standalone films that are, I guess I would say, twists

702
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:31,920
on the classics.

703
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,920
And that's fine.

704
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:33,920
Yeah, that's great.

705
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,920
They're actually lovely.

706
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,840
So we've seen some of them already this year and then we still have a couple more to

707
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,840
go.

708
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,160
So the first one is Lisa Frankenstein.

709
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,160
Yeah.

710
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,920
No, I can't.

711
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,920
I can't do that.

712
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,000
No, no, no, we bury the body.

713
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,760
Dan is wearing basically a Lisa Frankenstein costume.

714
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,760
Well, Lisa Frankenstein's monster.

715
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,960
It's the story of a teenage reverse bride.

716
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,000
It's taking the bride of Frankenstein and sort of flipping it out its head but with teenagers.

717
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,760
It's written by Diablo Cody of Jennifer's body and is the feature length of directorial

718
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,440
debut of Zelda Williams, daughter of Robin Williams.

719
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,440
Yes.

720
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,440
We've both seen it.

721
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,960
I think I can say that we both love it.

722
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,960
Yes.

723
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,960
I love the theaters.

724
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,960
I adore that movie.

725
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,680
And then the second one of the year was Abigail, which is a ballerina heist twist on Dracula's

726
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,560
daughter from the screen team of Radio Silence.

727
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:29,200
This movie starts off with Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake, which the monster nerd in me was like,

728
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,120
wait, this is such a wonderful connection to both Dracula and the mummy, like the OGs,

729
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,040
because their opening credits feature the same.

730
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,520
Both of which have the same actress.

731
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,520
They do.

732
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,400
It's just Catherine Newton's monsterverse.

733
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,400
Yeah.

734
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,400
It was like, wait a minute.

735
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,960
If we're going to this sort of teenage version, are we going to do like a young Avengers

736
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,960
spin of monsters?

737
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,960
Cause I ain't mad at that.

738
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,960
No.

739
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:51,960
We're not.

740
00:37:51,960 --> 00:38:02,800
We are still in a phase where these are all stand alone.

741
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,800
Yeah.

742
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,800
And that's okay.

743
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,960
The monsters have stood the test of time.

744
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,960
They're still being featured today.

745
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:07,960
They are.

746
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,880
We have one coming up in October.

747
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,880
Yes.

748
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,640
Do you know what the October one is?

749
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,640
Isn't that Brad Frankenstein?

750
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,640
No.

751
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,960
This October, we have Wolfman.

752
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,960
Oh.

753
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:23,200
I have high hopes for Wolfman because directed by Lee Wenell, who also directed Invisible Man.

754
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,200
Oh.

755
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,200
I know.

756
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,200
Comes out this month.

757
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,200
Spooky season.

758
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,200
And then we get another one.

759
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,200
Do you know the next one is?

760
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,200
What does your gut say?

761
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,200
I was going to say the Invisible Man.

762
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,200
Oh no.

763
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,200
It's not for R2.

764
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,200
No it's for R.

765
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,200
Oh right.

766
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,200
Yes.

767
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,200
No it's for R2.

768
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,200
Yes.

769
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,200
Which we got that one where fan buyer was on a boat.

770
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,200
The last voyage of Demeter?

771
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:40,200
Yeah.

772
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,440
I'm basically ticking through the list because we've got Frankenstein with Lisa Frankenstein.

773
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,040
We've got Dracula with Abigail.

774
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,640
We've got the Wolfman.

775
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,520
Now we're jumping to?

776
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,520
Jared Leto.

777
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,520
Yes.

778
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,320
We, Jared Leto is not in any of the new ones.

779
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,960
Nobody did play a blood sucking vampire.

780
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,960
No.

781
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,120
It's not more of a time anyway.

782
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,600
So that's what we get for this year.

783
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,440
And then next year we get The Bride with an exclamation point.

784
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,360
Which we did touch on last episode directed by Maga General and all.

785
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,020
I did a little further digging on the ones that we talked about last week because it is

786
00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:15,020
Monster Week.

787
00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:17,920
The plot of this in 1930s Chicago.

788
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,760
Oh Frankenstein asked Dr. Euphronius?

789
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,560
Where did Dr. Potorius grow?

790
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,560
Okay.

791
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,800
Anyway ask Dr. Euphronius to help create a companion.

792
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,620
They give a life to a murdered woman as The Bride, sparking romance, police interest,

793
00:39:33,620 --> 00:39:35,600
and radical social change.

794
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,920
So she's leading the suffrage movement?

795
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:39,920
I don't know.

796
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,400
It's 1930s Chicago.

797
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,380
I did see that the makeup and prosthetics are being done by Nadia Stacey who won the Oscar

798
00:39:46,380 --> 00:39:48,040
for poor things.

799
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,320
So I've got some hopes for this movie still.

800
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:55,560
I know that there was a lot of criticisms when the photos came out of Christian Bale.

801
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,560
Yeah.

802
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,560
Because there was like weird tattoos.

803
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,800
There's very Joker tattooed on his chest.

804
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:01,800
Yeah.

805
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,880
Remember someone was like the only thing he's missing is the damaged tattoo on his forehead.

806
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:12,160
I don't like that type of design and I don't think many people do.

807
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,760
I don't know what it says and I did look at photos and nor did I like research specifically

808
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,080
what it says.

809
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,680
It is on his chest and there is like a shirt flapping about.

810
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,840
So I'm wondering if it's a plot point or I don't know.

811
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,960
I'm hoping it's not featured too much because beyond that the design of both the Monster

812
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,840
and the bride is really cool and the colors are very beautiful.

813
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,840
Yeah.

814
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,840
We'll see how that one comes down.

815
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,800
And then you know, your buddy Guillermo del Toro, we get Frankenstein.

816
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,800
Yeah.

817
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,280
Which is another one of his beloved monsters.

818
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,000
One of the big gets that he's been gunning for.

819
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,880
Like there's been multiple projects at the Mountsmanis.

820
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,920
It's just one of like a dozen of them and the fact that he finally got Frankenstein is

821
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:57,920
huge.

822
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:03,240
A lot of that might have to do with when he made a fish caught one.

823
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:04,880
The shape of water.

824
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,880
The shape of water.

825
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,880
Do you want to know the synopsis?

826
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:08,880
Yes.

827
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,760
Before you get into the synopsis, I want to guess the cast.

828
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,760
Oh, go for it.

829
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,160
I know that he loves Ron Proman.

830
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,160
I don't believe so.

831
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,480
That's his boy and him is a monster.

832
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,480
Fantastic.

833
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,480
It would be fantastic.

834
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:24,760
For Frankenstein, Dr. Franconstein, Tom Hiddelsen.

835
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,880
Oh, you're just going off a fun fan casting of Frankenstein.

836
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:28,880
Oh, I definitely am.

837
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,880
Yeah.

838
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,880
You'd be fantastic.

839
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,040
We talked about who the cast was a little bit last week.

840
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,440
And then Igor.

841
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,680
What makes you think there's an Igor in here?

842
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,120
Because you have to fit in Tom Jones somehow.

843
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,040
Actually, I do know some of the casting for it.

844
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,040
But yeah, because last week we had talked about Oscar Isaac as Dr. Franconstein.

845
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,880
Jacob Allordie of Saltburn is the monster.

846
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,640
Like Mia Goth is in there.

847
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,920
There's one we didn't talk about.

848
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:57,760
And I'm super excited because the synopsis, Dr. Pretorius, tracks down Frankenstein's

849
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:04,320
monster, who is believed to have died in a fire 40 years before in order to continue the

850
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,080
experiments of Dr. Victor Frankenstein.

851
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,360
He is making this a direct sequel to the OG Frankenstein.

852
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,360
To the OG.

853
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:20,640
But with Dr. Pretorius, do you want to know who's playing Dr. Pretorius?

854
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:26,040
I want to say, who's the guy that played Ben in Lost?

855
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,440
Oh, my God.

856
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,440
Christoph Waltz.

857
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,440
Yeah.

858
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:38,800
Oh, him in tiny glasses would be fantastic.

859
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:44,480
Now, Dan, this is his second movie of the classic monsters.

860
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,400
Do we need to see a Guillermo del Toro dark universe?

861
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,160
I'm not liking the idea of trying to link it all together.

862
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,920
So you don't want any universe?

863
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,400
I don't want the universe.

864
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,120
I want it out.

865
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:03,600
I want more Guillermo del Toro directing monster movies, classic monster movies.

866
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,240
Yeah, I would like him to do the-- no, no, we have the invisible man.

867
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:10,360
Well, no, because he has to do is no one.

868
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,120
I just want him to throw Abbot and Castello in.

869
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,600
I feel like he could do it in a really fun, weird way.

870
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,600
I think he could.

871
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,600
Guillermo del Toro.

872
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,600
That's the connection.

873
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,600
Abbotting is so.

874
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,600
Don't they do a biopic on them?

875
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Exactly.

876
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,600
Yeah.

877
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,600
Imagine a Guillermo del Toro, Phantom of the Opera.

878
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,600
Yes!

879
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,600
Sorry.

880
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,600
Sorry.

881
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,600
Actually, that's where it is.

882
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:28,600
That's the one I want.

883
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,600
You're the Abbot in Castello.

884
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,820
Oh, it's perfect because when the Phantom causes so many issues and people have to come in,

885
00:43:34,820 --> 00:43:39,880
that's where you bring in the two police officers, but really, detective Castello and officer

886
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,880
of Abbot.

887
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:46,600
Imagine the set design and imagine the makeup made for the Phantom.

888
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,520
The set design of his underground leader-- Phantom played by Doug Jones.

889
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:51,520
Yes.

890
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,320
I don't think we need to make a connected universe or a franchise.

891
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,320
I disagree.

892
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,000
Cool, hardly.

893
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,360
Maybe I just want more monster movies and a connected universe is how I think I'll get

894
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,360
them.

895
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,980
But I like their stories converging, not even because of Abbot in Castello and not even

896
00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:11,120
because of like Frankenstein meets the Wolfman.

897
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,800
But I think there is a very fun lore.

898
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:19,240
I don't necessarily want to see them in like Teday's world, but there is a very fun sort

899
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:24,040
of gothic lore of you have Transylvania and then you have the werewolf of London.

900
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,920
I want 1800s Europe connection.

901
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,520
There's just so much you can do with it.

902
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,480
There's so much that you can pay homage to like with Lisa Frankenstein, there's so much

903
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,720
that's in there that's so fun.

904
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:43,440
And it doesn't just poke at Frankenstein and be like, look at this thing.

905
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,720
No, it takes itself very seriously in a funny way.

906
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:47,720
Yeah.

907
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:51,840
And you start going into other creatures as well and spoiler alert.

908
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,000
If you haven't seen it like at the very end, she's covered in bandages.

909
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,000
Right.

910
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,000
She's the mummy.

911
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,000
Oh, I went for bride, but yeah, you're right.

912
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,000
Yeah.

913
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,480
And there are moments in the film where you can kind of like see different monsters like

914
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,960
emerge throughout the film.

915
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:09,520
But these monsters are so well established that you can really play with it.

916
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:10,520
You can make it your own.

917
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,520
You can make it unique.

918
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,000
You can modernize it if you want to.

919
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,480
You can set it in a time period that serves the story and the monster even better.

920
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,400
So like Lisa Frankenstein is the eighties.

921
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,400
Yeah.

922
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,600
It looks like the new wolf man is going to be at least more modern day.

923
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,240
I don't know if it's like cell phones technology modern day from the trailer.

924
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:34,400
I don't know if you've seen the trailer, but the trailer should be like cool and gives

925
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,400
me a lot of hope.

926
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,400
Yeah.

927
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,920
It doesn't need to be connected to university if something comes of it great.

928
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:46,400
But honestly, we have so many great stories that can be created with these established

929
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,240
monsters that are already out there.

930
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:49,240
Well, guess what?

931
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:50,240
We're not done.

932
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:55,800
And while the cinematic dark universe has been put out of shelf, it seems that it's been

933
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:01,360
struck by lightning and is getting a whole new life as a theme park land.

934
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,480
Oh, yes.

935
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:17,240
So Universal Studios Orlando announced on June 20th of 2024.

936
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:22,680
So this year that the dark universe would be one of the lands in its upcoming epic universe

937
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,160
park.

938
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,080
Welcome to dark more.

939
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,400
Universal says that the journey to the dark universe begins the moment guests enter its

940
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:37,640
electrifying portal, which harnesses the dark energy of dark more as guests step inside

941
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:43,040
the same energy will pulsate through the entire village and connect at the top of Frankenstein

942
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,120
Manor, the towering focal point of the dark universe.

943
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,880
Listen, as a Disney princess girl through and through, but also a horror girl through and

944
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,880
through.

945
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,040
Let me tell you that a creepy, electrified manor in place of a castle actually has me

946
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,040
pretty jazzed.

947
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,320
Yeah, they could have easily gone for Dracula's castle.

948
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,560
It seems like a very obvious choice.

949
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,800
But how they use Dracula, even more fun.

950
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,360
How much do you know about the dark universe land about the dark universe land?

951
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,920
I knew that there were plans.

952
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,200
I don't know the details.

953
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,080
Well, we're going to take a trip to DOS stay-couse.

954
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,600
Ah, yeah.

955
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,680
Universal says that dark more is most ominous restaurant.

956
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:29,560
This establishment is a dining hall run by vampire familiars who size up unsuspecting

957
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:35,440
patrons to be part of the vampires feast surrounded by artwork and artifacts detailing

958
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,840
the history of the village's creatures of the night.

959
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,440
This can enjoy a menu of kabobs, burgers, sandwiches and more.

960
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,160
There's got to be steak on that menu, yeah?

961
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,160
Yeah, they have to.

962
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:50,200
And then they have one more sort of food drink offering, which is the burning blade tavern.

963
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,640
So they say that despite the blades of the windmills still smoldering and flaming periodically,

964
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:56,640
which is cool.

965
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,800
They're going to actually have the windmill on fire all the time.

966
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:04,240
Dark Moor's monster hunters have transformed this old fiery mill into their favorite hangout.

967
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:06,960
While you're enjoying your beverages, your burgers.

968
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,840
Best will hear stories of the infamous Hounds.

969
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:15,520
These are boastful hunters from beyond dark moor, all also rounded by impressive displays

970
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,560
of monster heads big consider trophies.

971
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,440
I'm trying to remember the name of this and I tried looking it up and I don't think

972
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,440
I found the right one.

973
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,320
At Universal Studios.

974
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:30,440
Just before the minions took over, there was a haunted house that was a year-round haunted

975
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,440
house.

976
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,440
Walking dead.

977
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:33,440
It was in the walking dead.

978
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,440
Or was this pre-walking dead?

979
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,440
This is pre-walking dead.

980
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,280
It was a castle that you could go through.

981
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,320
It probably was a classic monster.

982
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,800
Yeah, and I remember there being homages to classic monsters.

983
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,640
I remember going through it in 2015 actually.

984
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,280
Because if you go to Horror Nights.

985
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:54,400
Every year, there's always at least sort of one maze that has a spin or take on the classic

986
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,400
monsters.

987
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,440
I know there was like, "the mama me, it's the wolf man.

988
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,960
This year is bloodlines.

989
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:01,640
It's bright of Frankenstein.

990
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:02,960
Lady Dracula."

991
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,920
And another, there's three women who are all sort of like fighting each other as you're

992
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,920
going through.

993
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,640
Oh, there's like a wolf woman.

994
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,640
Really was excited for that one in theory.

995
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,760
I don't know how I feel about it.

996
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:14,760
Post walkthrough.

997
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,520
Okay, but there's going to be two rides in the universe.

998
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:19,520
Land.

999
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,520
Monsters Unchained.

1000
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:26,160
Which is going to be apparently Universal's most terrifying attraction yet.

1001
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:31,080
This state of the art dark ride takes guests deep into the catacombs of Frankenstein's

1002
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:37,160
manner where Dr. Victoria Frankenstein conducts her twisted experiments.

1003
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:43,480
In a vain display of genius, she invites her guests into her laboratory to witness a demonstration

1004
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,280
of her ability to control monsters.

1005
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,720
Better plans go awry when her attempts to control the most dangerous of monsters.

1006
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:52,440
Dracula fails.

1007
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,960
Unleashing a horde of enraged monsters.

1008
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,760
Guests are then thrust into an intense ride through the darkness as they try to evade

1009
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:06,480
the grasps of the wolf man, the mummy, the creature from the black lagoon, and the brides

1010
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,200
of Dracula and many others.

1011
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,840
Do you know who, Victoria Frankenstein is?

1012
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,560
Who Victor Frankenstein is?

1013
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:13,560
Victoria.

1014
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,560
Victoria.

1015
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:15,560
Yeah.

1016
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,160
This is Victoria Frankenstein's experiments.

1017
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:23,960
Oh, so she's the great, great granddaughter of Henry Frankenstein.

1018
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,240
I'm actually really excited for this ride.

1019
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:30,200
It looks like it'll have the mechanics of the Harry Potter sort of the thing when you go

1020
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,200
through the castle.

1021
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,520
They haven't come out and said that, but from the videos, that's what it looks like.

1022
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:39,800
And then the animatronics are, they've showed some of them on video already, is real cool.

1023
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,960
The wolf man in particular is really well done and seems more of a throwback to the classic

1024
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,480
monster than anything.

1025
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,600
I'm a little worried about how Frankenstein likes, but we'll get there.

1026
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:50,600
We'll see.

1027
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:51,600
I did find the ride.

1028
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,600
It was called, well, it wasn't right.

1029
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,600
It was actually a walkthrough.

1030
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,600
It was a walkthrough.

1031
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:55,600
Much like Horonites, yeah.

1032
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,000
But a bigger, better scale.

1033
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,400
It was called the House of Horrors.

1034
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,400
Yeah.

1035
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:05,760
And this was one that I specifically remember because I went through it during Halloween

1036
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,760
Horonites.

1037
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,760
This is 2015.

1038
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,320
When I went through it, the creatures that they featured inside there were from the TV

1039
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,320
show Face Off.

1040
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,320
Oh, yeah.

1041
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,320
I'm going to put your face in the picture.

1042
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,320
Yeah.

1043
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,920
The makeup competition.

1044
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,880
And they featured like those, what those artists made in there, but they're really good.

1045
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,120
They've done those maces a couple of times and those are always the most beautiful.

1046
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:32,560
Now the reason why I keep thinking that it's in homage to a lot of the old monster films

1047
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,600
is because they did feature some of them in there, but it was mostly there as a vehicle

1048
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,840
to show off any horror films that they were doing.

1049
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:40,840
I did find a list.

1050
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,840
This is a very short list of like what they featured in there, but they included the mummy,

1051
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,800
the wolf man, Frankenstein, Nosferatu, but they also featured Norman Bates.

1052
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,800
Chucky was in there.

1053
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,840
Norman Bates.

1054
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,920
And it's just kind of a vehicle of just like a universal prop, or a prop.

1055
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:02,600
And I remember when I went in there once they showed at the beginning, when you're waiting

1056
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,480
in line, they show like props and stuff from like horror films.

1057
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:12,120
And I remember seeing the frozen monster human thing from the thing.

1058
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,120
Oh, yeah.

1059
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,080
And they featured it right there as like it was in this big glass tomb thing.

1060
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,840
I love those things.

1061
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,400
It served exactly what it was supposed to do.

1062
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,480
It's just like you feature just horror in general, but like they definitely leaned into

1063
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,840
a lot of the classic horror films.

1064
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,040
I wish I would have been able to see that.

1065
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:35,640
We've got one more ride called the Curse of the Werewolf, which universal says deep in

1066
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,560
the woods that sit on the edge of darkmore.

1067
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,120
Guests will find Curse of the Werewolf, a spinning family coaster inspired by the wolf

1068
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,120
man.

1069
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,360
Guests will enter an encampment of the guild of mystics where they'll be greeted by

1070
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:54,280
Maliva, who is from our original wolf man, Bella's mom.

1071
00:52:54,280 --> 00:53:00,320
The guilds all knowing seer and leader, who warns them that they bear the mark of the werewolf.

1072
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,840
Guests then board a wagon and venture into the forest, racing to escape the werewolves

1073
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,160
before they become ones themselves.

1074
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,880
This sounds a little bit like a spinning version of the Hippogriff ride in universal studio

1075
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,880
is Hollywood.

1076
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:13,880
Again, not mad.

1077
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:20,880
Both of these seem very fun and a little scary, but I'm super excited that they're actually

1078
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,760
calling back to the wolf man and the actual classic monsters.

1079
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,760
Something that I think is also fun is that you can get a makeover.

1080
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,920
You're going to the Bippity Boppity boutique, but it's a monster theme.

1081
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:40,200
They say that monster makers have converted Dr. Pretorius's infamous old lab into a parlor

1082
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:47,040
to continue the spirit of his demented experiments and skilled artisans use their talents to transform

1083
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:52,240
guests out of appearance so they can showcase their fandom for the universal monsters.

1084
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:56,920
There's also a shop called Pretorius' Scientific Outities, so we are really giving Dr. Pretorius

1085
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:57,920
some love.

1086
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:04,080
Yeah, is there like a photo op area where it looks like you're in a little glass jar?

1087
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:09,320
Yeah, the glass display is like a tiny person inside there.

1088
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,320
Made from a seed.

1089
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,840
I don't know.

1090
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,720
Honestly, all of the video and things that I've seen come out of it, I'm very, very excited

1091
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:18,120
for it in a little sad we're not getting here.

1092
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:24,920
So I guess this to me feels like an almost third version of a cinematic universe by way

1093
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,360
of sort of a pirates of the Caribbean.

1094
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,880
So if this park does well and takes off, is that a universe?

1095
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:33,880
I think so.

1096
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,800
They say that the dark universe is complete and not going to happen, which is fine because

1097
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,160
universal's dark universe is a mouthful to me.

1098
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:47,320
I think just having the universal monsters featured in the parks is a really smart idea.

1099
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,320
Oh yeah.

1100
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:54,560
Push for that all the time and that's one of the main staples that universal is known for.

1101
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:59,880
Even here at Universal Studios Hollywood, we have the Frankenstein parking lot.

1102
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,160
Yeah, it's the most convenient one.

1103
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,160
Yeah.

1104
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,440
I mean, they're walking around the park.

1105
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:09,240
I don't know that it's all here but they definitely are now because we're in spooky season.

1106
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:11,040
But having a presence in the park just makes sense.

1107
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,000
I was trying to think of a good name because it's not the dark universe is a bad name.

1108
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,640
But like I said, universal dark universe, you're saying universe twice in the same sentence.

1109
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,840
And I was like, oh, monsterverse would be fun.

1110
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,280
Yeah, I feel like monsterverse has been taken, but I'm sure it has been.

1111
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:35,440
I have zero doubt, but it made me giggle because you have the monsterverse cinematic universe.

1112
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,040
So you have still an MCU.

1113
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,880
You have the MCU.

1114
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:46,880
That's all of what I have on the various universes that universal has come to do.

1115
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,640
And like we've said, you don't care.

1116
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,400
You could care less whether they make one heartbreaking.

1117
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,600
I'm going to fight the good fight.

1118
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,840
I just want good monster movies.

1119
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,200
I can't have both.

1120
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,200
I'm sure you can.

1121
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,200
I'm not saying that everything should be connected.

1122
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,200
It's fair.

1123
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,440
I want the good monster movie first if you make a sequel of it.

1124
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:04,440
Great.

1125
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:05,960
If you connect together well.

1126
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:06,960
Great.

1127
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,800
The Iron Man movie because it's a good Iron Man movie.

1128
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,360
And not because it opens up in crepes the MCU.

1129
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,360
We love Tony Stark.

1130
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,720
We don't actually care about Iron Man.

1131
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:20,920
Like, I mean, we do, but not really.

1132
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:21,920
Yeah.

1133
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,360
Like, we want Cap to be back together with Peggy.

1134
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:26,360
Bucky.

1135
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,360
No.

1136
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,720
I don't know how this didn't get made because you have all of the core characters there

1137
00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:34,400
that are interesting characters.

1138
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,920
But I want to see made just because I saw this at Universal City Walk.

1139
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:39,920
I saw the minions.

1140
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:40,920
No, get out.

1141
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,240
The minions dressed as all the classic Universal Monsters.

1142
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:46,400
Make that a movie.

1143
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:47,400
Illumination.

1144
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,760
Grooo has the resources to make monsters.

1145
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:52,760
Oh my god.

1146
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,760
He's Dr. Pretorias.

1147
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:54,760
Yes.

1148
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:55,760
Done.

1149
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:56,760
Feezy.

1150
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:57,760
Boom.

1151
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:58,760
That's really not a terrible picture.

1152
00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:59,760
That is just bitch.

1153
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:00,760
We'll be five.

1154
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,760
It's not your worst idea.

1155
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,280
I'm not the biggest fan of minions.

1156
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,280
I will admit it.

1157
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,360
But honestly, I watched that movie.

1158
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,360
Yeah.

1159
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,360
Who's your favorite monster?

1160
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,360
The Gilman.

1161
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,840
Not just because you didn't episode on it.

1162
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,840
I didn't episode on it because I like the Gilman.

1163
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:14,840
Fine.

1164
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:15,840
I mean, listen.

1165
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,000
I went with the only lady in the bunch, so.

1166
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,000
Gil lady.

1167
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,000
Gil.

1168
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,840
There's your sequel.

1169
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:23,840
Yeah.

1170
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,840
Son of Gilman.

1171
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:25,840
Mm-hmm.

1172
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:26,840
That's the sequel to Shape of Water.

1173
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:27,840
Yeah, it is.

1174
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:28,840
[APPLAUSE]

1175
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,760
[MUSIC PLAYING]

1176
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:38,320
Let's wrap this up.

1177
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,200
You have said your piece on monsters.

1178
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:41,840
I have.

1179
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,200
They deserve their own universe.

1180
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,040
It would be my favorite universe.

1181
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,520
We're looking forward to more monster movies.

1182
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,920
We have a lot more in store in the future.

1183
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:50,760
That is the end of our show.

1184
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,440
If you want to connect with us on these socials,

1185
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,160
we have our Instagram page that is at How Did This Not Get Made.

1186
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,640
We also have our Twitter, which is really just the same thing.

1187
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,840
Is it one tweet?

1188
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:02,520
Or the image?

1189
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,320
Whatever I tweet, I put on the Instagram, whatever I Instagram,

1190
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,800
I put on the tweets.

1191
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,960
Our Twitter is @hgtngm.

1192
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,040
And then we have our TikTok as well.

1193
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:18,280
Our TikTok is actually going to be a little different from our Twitter

1194
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,680
and Instagram.

1195
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,320
If we start dancing, I will end the show immediately

1196
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,560
and burn it all to the ground.

1197
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,040
But you can actually see--

1198
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,480
Unless you tell us, too.

1199
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,800
You can see video of us just snippets of us

1200
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,800
recording the episodes.

1201
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,240
You're going to see our faces.

1202
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,120
You'll see my bare legs from the knee down.

1203
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,160
You have pants on.

1204
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,360
I wore shorts in the other one.

1205
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,320
Are you wolf, man, and ow?

1206
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:42,440
I wore shorts in the other episode.

1207
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,160
I connected it all back.

1208
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,120
And I did not like it.

1209
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,760
You did wear shorts in the other episode.

1210
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:48,840
It was a bad idea.

1211
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,000
We've got socials.

1212
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,200
We're doing things.

1213
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,440
We've got these two episodes in the can.

1214
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:53,940
Yep.

1215
00:58:53,940 --> 00:58:56,440
And we'll continue on with the show.

1216
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,160
Bye, bye, bye.

1217
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,680
He did the monster, man.

1218
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,360
It was a graveyard, man.