Okay, so we just got back.
We got back.
We had a long awkward silent car ride.
So trying to literally talk about anything else,
which really we don't have much else to talk about.
We have plenty to talk about.
But all we really wanted to talk about was this movie.
What movie do we see?
Hard eyes!
We saw "Heart Eyes" aka "The Hearts Have Knives".
"Heart Nives".
Let's split it up into two different segments here,
because there's definitely spoilers in this movie.
We'll do spoilers later, yeah.
This is the "Spoiler Free Beginning".
We are gonna do "Spoiler Free" stuff right in the beginning.
Editor Dan here is going to put in a timestamp
of when we are gonna go into spoilers.
Sure, that's a nice of editor Dan.
Editor Dan here, "Spoilers for this movie will begin at 19 minutes and 30 seconds".
I went in, rather blind to this.
I knew it was coming out.
I had seen murmurings on my social media feed from friends
that were like, "This movie is pretty good".
I was like, "Oh, what movie?"
Because there wasn't a large marketing for this,
or if there was, "I've lived under a rock".
How did you hear about the movie other than me being like,
"We should go see this".
I saw trailers for it before movies.
Oh, that's when I get my snacks.
Yeah, I saw a trailer for it while we were in theaters.
I've seen movie posters for it.
I've seen...
So I have lived under a rock is what you're saying?
All right, great.
That makes sense.
Yes.
All I can say is this movie has no right, being as good as it was.
Yeah, it was a killer of a time.
With this movie, I could feel myself kind of rolling my eyes
at a lot of the tropes that were happening.
But there were moments in there where you get the idea that
they present the tropes and then they subvert it.
We were talking about the intro.
Yes.
And not the main cast intro, the like...
The cold open.
The cold open, yeah.
That was my least favorite part.
But that also falls into that trope of you need that initial kill right in the beginning.
It is the Drew Barrymore getting stabbed at the beginning.
That was my big problem is that though, like,
I miss the days of the Drew Barrymore kill.
I was really hoping that it would be a much bigger celebrity.
Yes.
Because that was the whole idea of Drew Barrymore being killed because
she was the main character for so many movies and you're like,
"Oh, she's the main character in this one."
And she's gone.
Like, Scream has done it time and time again in the opening.
They even poke fun at themselves and I think four.
But we don't see it enough these days.
And this would have been...
Like, I wanted it to be like Shenaiatwane.
I didn't need it to be a list celebrity, but I...
Or it needed to be like...
You grant was the photographer just a nod because they do so many nods to
like romantic comedies and horror movies throughout the film.
It would have been really funny to tie in.
Yeah.
The problem was that it felt so much like a setup.
There was that one moment there where I thought that the girl in the beginning
who gets pressed to death, I thought she said the killer's name for a second?
Oh, I missed that completely.
I don't think that she did.
And maybe if there were subtitles I would have known.
But for a second, I thought that she had said the actual killer's name out loud
and be like, "You ruined this for me."
And I was like, "Oh, that's interesting.
Maybe we'll explore that."
Oh, no, no, no.
I didn't get that.
But I see...
I know exactly what moment you're talking about because her hand is hitting the thing.
She says a word and then you're ruining this for me.
Yes.
But I believe it's like, "Stop it."
Or something.
Yeah.
Like, "What are you doing?
Don't do this."
Yeah.
And I thought she said something like, "Jeff, why are you doing this to me?"
I was like, "Oh, you know that personally.
Maybe it's an X trying to get his revenge."
And I was like, "Okay, so maybe he's like going out of murder spree with like all of his X's
and maybe that's going to be the way that it goes."
The killer seems pretty aimless when it comes to who the target is.
Just people in love.
And the victims, yeah.
Don't be in love was the moral of said story because it will get you killed.
I spent most of the movie trying to create that.
Like, is it somewhat a jilted lover going after people?
I kept making it the plot deeper than it needed to be.
I started to feel the same way as well where it felt like there needed to be maybe a more
personal connection.
I thought that maybe there was more to the story.
It was like, they just see something shiny and they killed the thing that's shiny.
It's a very good nod to 80s 90s horror.
It's just like, you know, killing the kill.
Yeah.
Or there's no deep backstory.
It's just, the movies made me do it.
It's the love made me do it.
It is, that's to me, a very 80s 90s horror/er trop.
The whole thing was trope after trope, but not in a like gluttonous way.
I really enjoyed it.
I feel like they used it to its advantage.
Like I've felt it over and over and over again.
And the moment that I wanted to bring up specifically is like the meatcute trope, which
started to feel kind of like a hallmark movie, a lifetime movie where it reminded me of
anyone, but you actually.
Yeah.
So they definitely leaned into it by the way that they subverted it was like they ordered the
same difficult coffee drink.
Which apparently everybody else orders, which is great.
And then I love the barista who is living in the real world and be like, we're busy.
Get out.
They go off to the side.
They're talking to each other.
They bump heads with each other.
And I was like, oh, that's funny, but it's also, yeah, like that's a trope.
And then for her to go to pick something up off the ground, come back up and give them a
bloody nose.
And I was like, okay, so that's how you take the trope and then you subvert it after it.
And I thought that that is a really good setup for like how we're going to approach the rest
of the movie where we are going to continually use these tropes over and over and over again.
But then how do you subvert and just kind of tweak it just a little bit?
Yeah.
Also, Kudos to the sound design because the second thud, I was like, oh, this is, you get
pretty quickly from the cold open that this is going to be very gory, pretty gross moving.
Yep.
Which I also didn't know was coming.
The second head butt sound design.
I was just like, whoa.
All right.
This is what we're in for.
Yes.
Yeah, you have the big city girl.
So this does take place in Seattle.
There were some things that did bug me a little bit where if a character or something just
kind of like looked around for a little bit, it would have been very obvious.
So for example, we have the first crime scene and there's a cop that comes up to the detectives
and they're like, how do you know this is not the heart eyes killer?
And then it shows very clearly on the ground, rose petals in a heart.
And it's like, you were here longer than the detectives.
They just arrived.
Also, the detectives were wonderful.
Them being in, I don't know, it's a great presser, I guess, in the beginning.
I kept being like, why is she's touching her phone while she's touching evidence?
Yeah, that was another thing.
But we lose that pretty quick or at least I got invested enough that I didn't notice it as much.
But I do remember throwing my hands up because I was like, why are you even in the great presser
looking for clues to prove that this is heart eyes when there's a heart surrounded by rose petals?
Yeah, they seem very careless about any evidence or anything that's going on.
I mean, it's Valentine's Day and a couple got killed.
Sure.
And the only kills for 24 hours.
Yeah, like let's make a snap quick decision because we've got 24 hours to deal with this.
Sure, timing, as far as the sense of urgency in a movie, having a killer only kill for this 24 hour period,
is that, you know, in the movie, you're in it.
Yeah, also the male officer, was it hubs or a Shaw?
We'll go into the hubs, Jocelyn Laker.
She was Shaw.
She was Shaw, so hubs.
Has initials, yeah.
Yeah, like stepping in and be like, you need a man who can make decisions or something like that
and standing very close to her is like, there's so many HR violations there.
Yeah, I will say, I guess this is a spoiler.
I figured out who the killer was pretty quick.
That scene with him standing way too close.
I was like, oh, as a woman, I've been in misposition and I went, oh, and that's where I thought they were going to run with it,
which I'm kind of glad they didn't.
But that happened and then the, the pinging of like searching for a lover.
I was like, they very easily could have gone into the jilted woman trope and I'm glad they didn't.
Well, there was also the moment where the detective Hobbs said like,
when he thinks that the killer is a man and she was like, what makes you think he's a man?
Yeah, I couldn't tell if it was just me being like, aha, I figured it out or if it was more subtle, but it was satisfying.
Let's talk about our leads.
Our lead characters, which in according to this IMDB they go in order of appearance, so this is very annoying.
Olivia Holt and Mason Gooding are our leads as Ali and...
Yeah, they went in order of appearance and this is stupid.
No, it's not stupid. Let's go back to going in order of appearance and not just like...
J.
Oh, right, duh, because J.
J Simmons.
So J and Ali are the main characters.
It's the, will they won't they, but definitely they will couple.
There's the scene where they're sitting in the ambulance and they're going to go their separate ways, not the end.
That female paramedic, it's like, what a good story.
You two kids are so cute.
Which like she should get all of the love because she stole the movie.
There's definitely some side characters in there where it felt like their role was bigger than it needed to be.
No, it was perfectly the size that it was supposed to.
It felt like something got left in the cutting room floor.
But they were definitely casting for people who could definitely steal the scene in that moment.
Yes.
Which I think was intentional to throw you off.
Every side person could be the person.
Yeah, because there is a side character who does then come back later on.
It's definitely one of those moments where you saw that character and you're just like,
we lingered on that person for longer than I feel like we needed to.
You have to do that multiple times to throw off suspicion.
Otherwise, it's like, do you see this is probably the killer?
But I thought they were really great.
There's a type of female character that is quite popular right now.
That is, I'm clutsy, but I'm also intelligent.
I don't know how I feel about it.
It really is trying to be like, but she will be the hero in the end.
Like she will sort of rescue him.
She's after him.
Greg, we're trying to switch the stereotype on its head.
That's a woman I don't care for anymore.
It definitely has, like I said with the tropes, it has that hallmarked trope of like,
she's the big city woman and she just needs to go back to her roots of wanting to be a nurse or being in medical school.
I didn't even think about the nurse thing until now and that makes me upset.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Okay, well, all right, it is what is.
But the clumsy factor, we see it, that's what I mean by the opening,
like their meet cute really reminded me of anyone but you because you have the leg trying to dry her pants with the hair dryer.
And then her being like, I will head but you several times.
And of course she's a bad shot.
Yep, can't shoot anything.
Of course she's gonna like awkwardly climb over the broken window.
Tolerious.
But that's the thing in those moments, I think what is bugging me about the stroke that we're currently using in film is I want to see the clutz be so
oh, let's see, I don't want you to be pretty, let's see, I don't I want Lucille ball stomping on the grapes, not caring about beauty at all.
Like I want it to be rough and tumbling and like, that's who gets the guy.
It's a little pretty, that's not on her.
It's just sort of that is a current trope because we're trying to be like, she's a strong woman but also, let's, I don't know.
Also this trope of just like, I'm such an ugly person and no one wants to be and she's like, you are a gorgeous actor.
Right, we've thrown that out and replaced it with I'm a clutz.
Yeah.
Then be a clutz.
Be the clutziest clutz you could ever be.
Throw the gun at the window and have it bounce back instead of shattering it.
That would be goal.
Tolerious.
Yeah, like community del arte let's like steer into the skin of it.
Or even her clutziness could lead to her actually accidentally succeeding at like distracting the killer or something like that.
In the opening we see the really cool like little knife that gets held up and has the heart.
I never came back and it made me sad.
Yeah, they should have used that more.
But I wanted her to like throw it, it bounces off a wall and hits the killer in the back of the head.
Yeah, that reminds me that I recently watched another Valentine's Day movie Love Hurtz.
And there's a really funny moment.
This doesn't spoil anything but there are two characters that are fighting.
One of them has these like feather darts that he can expertly throw.
And then another guy picks up that feather dart and tries to throw back at him and the feather darts just goes.
It just limply falls on the ground.
The hand gestures are great.
Sorry, I am on the IMDB and the director of this movie, Josh Rubin.
So he made a cameo.
What a graphic memory man.
I sat there and watched the crack.
He made a cameo in the movie.
And I first killer.
No, it was just a one off scene.
And I thought that maybe they just like cast him just because he's really funny.
But he's the one that says call 911.
That's the director.
That's cool.
Yeah.
So you can see right here.
Oh yeah.
What else has he done?
I know him from watching dropout and the many appearances that he's done on dropout from doing game changer.
And I mean the many, many other shows that they do on there.
So he is hilarious.
And I was unaware that he actually directed this movie.
So this is actually pretty great.
And he also did another world wolf movie called werewolves within.
Oh my god.
We are in that that time.
It's nice because I had seen the name at the end.
And I went, I don't know that you've done a lot.
And I was excited because I'm like if this is one of your debut or you know early ones.
Like wait a crush it out of the gate.
Did he write it to?
No.
He's done quite a few other things which I'm surprised with like he did scare me which I think we did see scare me.
We must have.
He did an episode of Adam Ruins Everything.
This is not debut debut but this seems like more of a bigger.
This was a big one.
So the TV series that he did before it was with Kevin Hart die heart.
Oh yeah.
You can see a lot of that influence in that actually now that you've said it.
But totally I really liked it.
It ended and I went man I hope they make a sequel which I haven't felt about a movie in a long time.
I don't know how you do given the ending but this is one of those that if it came out of be like yeah sure I'm going to go see that.
Also the writers of this are have done some movies that we really love Christopher Landon.
He did the movie freaky.
There it is.
I was like I know that name.
And we love freaky he also.
Yes big freaky fans here.
A lot of paranormal activities.
He didn't do the first one but he was there for basically every sequel after that.
Because those are some of my faves.
A love of found footage.
He didn't do the first one but he did do happy death day to you.
Yes.
Halfway through the movie I went this reminds me tonally of happy death day and I'm not mad about it.
The other writer Michael Kennedy he also wrote freaky.
Nice.
And it's a wonderful knife.
I still haven't watched it.
I was going to watch it around Christmas.
I haven't saved in my like things to watch on hello.
One of the third writers kind of surprised me.
This is Philip Murphy.
He wrote hit man's life's bodyguard.
Okay.
That makes sense.
The chase scene elements and like that kind of thing.
We are in a time where movies are starting to take a genre.
And I think we talked about this on a different episode of the podcast.
Flip them on their heads.
So this was clearly a romcom as a horror movie.
Yes.
And I'm show here for that blend.
Yeah.
I think with the oversaturation especially with hallmark movies exploding and becoming such a trope and such a formula.
It is nice that you kind of took that formula and you're just like what if we just kept the formula but you just kind of blended in a serial killer into this?
I want more horror love stories but comedies.
That's somebody's monologue maybe.
But you and I both like started giggling because it was like I'm going to go.
Oh god I'm going to butcher it so hard.
I was talking about like love is blind in this and then I'm going to go up not in hell.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And they just kept naming.
It was so good.
It was the best friend.
Yes.
My best friend and then we're going to go up not in hell.
My best friend's wedding and then we would I'm not in hell and yes.
That was great and then it paused and they started talking about something else and she's like is love really blind?
Yes.
And then something about it was either like love Island or something.
I was like oh now we're in the unscripted.
Yes.
I adore when filmmakers like film history and there are nods to the fact that they clearly love film history and that was with his girlfriend.
And then one day, I was like I love the black and white movie one of the black and white movies.
I love the black and white movie.
That was one of the parts of dialogue that I didn't necessarily love per se like she's like I love the black and white.
And I was like then what is it?
As someone who also loves a black and white movie can't name what it is.
Tell me what it is.
Like I need you to be a bigger super fan about it than I am.
I liked the conversation in the van that they were having and I liked that there was like the classic love story to it.
Yeah.
Spoiler alert.
If you do not want anything spoil about this movie, do not listen past this point.
Let's start going into spoiler territories.
So yeah, go see it and then turn this off.
Go see it.
If you haven't seen it yet, yeah.
Pause, come back.
There was a part in the movie that like really bothered me.
Oh.
So I don't really have a lot of notes.
So this is interesting.
So the Hard Eyes Killer is supposedly like the most famous serial killer in the world.
Not in the world.
In the world of this movie.
This is the 30 year that there is a killer on Valentine's Day or they think there's going to be a killer on Valentine's Day.
My point is that in the world of this movie, the Hard Eyes Killer is like the killer that everyone's on watching out for.
They capture supposedly capture the killer with the capture J.
Yeah.
Yeah, J.S.
So they arrest J thinking that it's him.
Right.
And they bring him to what seems like an abandoned police station.
There is no one there. The only people that are there are the two detectives who like just arrived and just the secretary and that is it.
She's an officer.
She's just watching the friend desk.
Yeah.
But like--
Does it not bother me at all?
I thought it added to the atmosphere of the movie.
But I was like, there's no one there.
No, they caught the guy.
Let's all go home.
But like everyone went home.
There's no news around this.
There's no like you guys have been reporting on this for the past three years.
There is a famous serial killer that is out there and they caught him and everyone's just like silent.
No one--
There were people at the gardens or whatever when they caught them.
There was mediums there.
So I just--
But no one was like, we got to follow this guy to the police station.
No one's like--
I suspended this bullet.
I found it improbable that like--
Not saying it's probable, but--
Yeah.
The other part was like, does Uber not exist in this world?
Everyone gets a cab.
I get another thing where I was like, oh, definitely the killer.
It really reminded me of an urban legends scream.
Why are you running up the stairs when you should be going out the front door?
In fact, there's the scene where they so cleverly she takes off his belt and she's like, get your mind out of the gutter.
And I was like, OK, we've got witty dialogue.
We've got a good action sequence going on.
She hooks it on the door and like ties it to a radiator and I was like, yeah!
Girl power, let's go.
So what do you want to do when I get some take-out?
Yeah, there was the trope.
There's always this trope.
And I absolutely hate it.
And for whatever reason they have to put it in every single slasher film where if they ever do this, then I'm like, you deserve to get stabbed.
Yeah, I mean, that's sort of fun.
Who else would we yell at?
Go!
But there was that moment, yeah, where they like, they're just like, oh, we trapped the killer in the room.
Let's lean against this very fragile door and just kind of be like, okay, and like you said, yeah, let's just...
Right, this is supportive.
Let's plan it saved.
Well, this Order some Chinese, we'll just pop on a movie, like, what do you want to do?
Oh, there's a, there's a nine in the door!
I didn't see that go!
Stop! And we were both gesturing to each other just like, go, leave.
Do anything else, like, call the police.
How are you not doing anything else?
It's like you lock the door and then you just have object permanence and you're just like,
"The killer doesn't exist anymore. The killer doesn't exist."
Roll credits! Like we're like, like, on to the next movie.
Yeah, apparently.
Listen, there are two things that I like to go see a horror movie with you for. One, we will quietly,
wildly gesture between the two of us to like, move, go, please, yes.
I think the other thing that I love is close your mouth!
Close your mouth. Always close your mouth. I mean, they do address it in there.
Which I was like, "Oh, chef's kiss. Thank you for finally addressing it."
And it's like, you got blood in my mouth and throws it on the killer, which was again gold.
And her being mad at him, that is a fun couple trope of like, "What did you do?"
And he's like, "I saved your life."
I saved you? What do you want more?
You got it in my mouth! That was great.
Yeah, but there were multiple times where adjusting to each other were just like close your mouth.
Close your mouth.
To me, those are two signs of a good horror movie.
I mean, they're not. You really should...
I one day will want to see the movie where they do all of the right things and like,
it breaks my heart that they're getting killed.
At this point in life, I've yet to see them make all of the right moves.
Yeah, the lingering part always gets to me.
And I do enjoy the scene where the two of them really get to know each other in the car.
I feel like that is necessary for them to understand where each other is coming from.
That's where you learn.
Right.
But there is a murderer out there searching in all the cars.
And they're just like, "Let's just take a little nap."
Yeah, I had the same thought when she is...
She goes back towards the killer after they're running out of the apartment.
He's like, "What are you doing?"
She's like, "We're not together. It's fine."
And I'm like, "That is still a crazy person with a weapon."
Yeah.
I really wanted...
We are not together to be more of a joke.
If they both yelled it at the serial killer, I think that'd be really funny.
Right.
Yeah.
We are not together.
Again, I had a really fun time in this movie though.
Another part that bugged me was...
Oh my God.
Everyone kind of knows what the heart-eye killer looks like.
And there's a guy who...
Because there are those masks.
Yeah.
Yeah, that people have to scare people.
But there is a guy walking around with a machete in a drive-in movie theater.
And everyone's just like, "Yeah, okay."
And then he kills the couple that's been in and then everyone's like,
"Oh, I guess we should take it seriously and just ignore the five other people that he killed."
Like, "On the way in."
I really liked how they played it at first.
Because the one guy's like, "Oh, cool costume."
I really wanted like a sick cosplay bro.
Because I needed the address of the weapon.
Sure, wear the mask, whatever.
But sometimes cosplayers look real good.
And they do?
And you can't tell the difference.
And I thought there's a way to make it modern and...
You know, people would get it.
But he instantly...
Isn't he killed that guy?
Yeah, he like stabs him immediately.
And he keeps walking and I was like, "Oh no, we're still...
I just closed the door.
Stab walk closed door, keep going."
And that guy, like this is a couple's fest, I guess.
Went by himself.
Yeah, and he was the lone person.
He didn't kill...
Or the killer didn't kill the couple.
Just killed the one guy.
And I don't know, his partner should have come in and be like, "Oh my God, he's dead!
Everyone get out!"
No.
No, he was a single dude at the height.
That's what my burn was like, "Oh, he's the lone wolf at this Valentine's day."
He's singling and mingling?
Yeah.
He's looking for another single lady.
I will say they make a joke at one point, not even joke.
They do say he only kills people if they're straight.
Yeah.
And then did avoid the lesbian couple.
The lesbian couple.
So that was an interesting choice.
Yeah.
I was wondering if there was going to be any gay representation in this.
There was.
And there was.
But at first when they were in the couple's festival or whatever that was, it was straight,
couple, straight, couple, straight, couple, and then I saw a guy in a guy and I was like, "Okay, word.
Okay, we're okay."
Right.
Yeah.
There was some.
And I did think that that scene of dragging the knife along the windshield went on for a really long time,
where I was like, "I get the point you're trying to make.
I don't get it fully."
Yeah.
I appreciate the representation and we'll never address it again.
No.
They'll address it in the sequel.
Yes.
More equality in the sequel.
So let's go into the big reveal.
Hobbs and Shaw are the killer.
We didn't bring that up.
We should have brought it up earlier, but the detectives do say their name and then you in the theater out loud said,
like, "Hobbs and Shaw, like the movie." And then sure enough, it was like they mirrored exactly what you said on the screen.
They're like, "Hobbs and Shaw, like the movie."
When I figure something out, I'm like, I'm terrible at keeping it to myself.
And I'll be like, "Oh, man, like that's the killer.
I'm getting a lot better."
But I, yeah, I figured that one out real quick and was like, I did echo.
Amber and I have this thing wherever we watch any movies or TV shows and she jokingly says some response.
And then the character says the exact response that they said.
And I turned to her and I go, "When did you write this?"
But it was great because I know Jordania is in fast and the furious.
Yes.
You said he was too?
I am not sure.
I definitely recognized Jordana and I thought it was really funny that they made a fast and furious joke.
Like that she was the one that had the name?
No, he wasn't. But, oh my god, I cannot believe that I did not recognize him.
Have you seen Idol Hands?
Let's crap that then.
Okay.
First Final Destination.
You know I've seen that.
He's the main character in the first Final Destination movie.
No way!
Shut the front door.
He's also Stan in the M&M music video for Stan.
Okay.
I didn't get it, M&M toy.
All right.
He is the alive Casper.
Oh.
You see that?
It's a hair part and you're just like, "Oh, yeah."
Ladies love a 90s middle part.
He's a live Casper.
Yeah.
So that's who Hobbs was.
Delightful.
Yeah.
Hobbs and Shaw were great.
I was kind of sad when he got killed.
I was like, "I wanted more of them."
This was a movie that I, we left and I was like, "Oh, it's over."
It felt really quick.
It did.
I don't know what the runtime was, but...
It's a very short movie.
Like an hour and a half.
We're back to the 90s.
We need more of those.
Yeah.
The reveal that I really loved, aside from Shaw, Jordanna being the killer.
That was the one I solved right away.
But the IT guy was really funny.
Then that was the guy where they lingered on him for so long where you just kind of like
tilt your head and you're just like, "What's going on here?
What's happening?
Why are we on this guy for so long?"
Then lights go out and I was like, "There's something about that guy."
Then I love when they brought it back because as an audience, you immediately recognize him.
But the fact that Ali is just like, "Who are you?"
And he's like the IT guy.
We've met.
We talked.
I asked you to get coffee like two hours ago.
And she's like, "I don't know."
Again, this is why I thought they were going to go with Jilted.
Which, again, glad they didn't.
I like that they were just like, "That's our kink basically."
And it's like, "We saw you and we were together."
And that's the moment when I wanted both of them to yell.
It's like, "We are not a couple."
Yeah!
Yes!
I needed that joke to be bigger.
And then there is check-off straw.
Yes, check-off is environmentally friendly straw.
Yes.
Which I do love the joke that they're just like, "Yeah, save the world with a reusable straw
in a cup that has more plastic than that straw."
I love it.
It was a really smart script.
Yes, it was.
You and I always play that is this check-offs gun situation.
And I will say the straw kept coming up and they did a great job of bringing it up enough
and letting it go so that when it came back, it was real rewarding.
It was really rewarding because for a moment I was almost certain that the movie was going
to end after they killed the first killer at the driving movie theater.
And then I figured, "Oh, either he's not dead for magical reasons or there was more than
one killer and that's going to be like the tag for the sequel."
And I was like, "Oh, they didn't use the straw at all."
And then they kept going with it.
Turns out there was a secret fourth act of the movie.
And then we got check-off straw stabbed in the face.
See, when Jordania showed up, I was like, "Oh, we're not done."
I knew that there was going to be that chunk.
She's great to watch on screen and to watch her be the twisted sort of killer was just
great.
You could definitely tell that she really soaked up the role.
It was such a juicy character to be like to kind of be on the good guy side.
And then to, even with the dynamic, the other trope was like, "You have good cop bad cop."
And then she's the good...
Take the jack at all.
Yeah, it's just us.
Yeah.
Do you want some water, some coffee?
I was like, "Oh, I've seen this in so many long-order episodes."
Oh, huh.
And she's really leaning into it and then how are they going to separate that?
I really enjoyed her dynamic with the poor IT guy who I don't even know his name.
When he was like, "We were a threpple."
And she's like, "No, he was a fan."
David.
She says, "No, he was a fan."
Yeah.
And I went, "Oh, she's just the mastermind behind all of it."
Yep.
And then we have that saw moment where you just flash back to all the parts and movies.
And she's flipping through dating apps and be like, "Oh, who's going to be the next
third wheel to go out and do their bidding?"
And she's like, "Oh, I would have to look at this later, but I'm hoping."
That when she pointed out the firefighter with a dog, I'm hoping that that was the killer
at the movie theater or the driving movie theater.
I hope so too.
Now that you've said it, I don't know that it was because you see it so quickly.
It is.
It's a movie that's fun to watch again.
Yes.
Anytime you watch a mystery movie or like a, you know, who's the killer kind of thing,
to watch it knowing what you know now.
Right.
It's that sixth sense thing where once you know that Bruce Willis is dead, it would be
really fun to go through the movie again to be like, "Spoiler."
There's the glue, there's the glue, there's the glue, there's the glue, there's the glue,
there's the glue, there's the glue, there's the glue, there's the spoiler land right now.
I'm mid, but the other one.
You had time.
I want to talk about the end credit for a hot second, or I guess mid credit.
There's a trope in Save the Cat of like opening image, closing image.
I understand that trope from a story perspective.
I think we've played it out a little too much.
I now enjoy when that trope is twisted on its head.
This was that moment where it started and I went, "Oh man, I get what we're doing, but
I don't really need it."
I thought what it was going to be was the campaign they put together for the like diamond
company.
It was just like a little stinger of that.
Yeah.
It is not what it was.
So a lot of questions about also by the time we got to the credits, I immediately was like,
"I want a sequel.
I want to have a cocktail and watch the sequel to this next Valentine's Day and I am so
in."
Yeah.
I don't know how they do that.
Other than like another person just dresses up as that serial killer.
Which is totally fine.
Like scream is done at plenty.
Like you could have one, like that's where you bring the fireman back, right?
He actually went on a date with 30, really liked her and she told him all this stuff and
that's actually what got him going.
So now he's going to continue her legacy or whatever, short, short, short.
But the friend was filming their proposal but had the vocoder with the voice and everyone
just was like, "Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha."
Also, how does she know about that?
That's my case.
Yeah.
I rest my case.
So the friend, jilted from being the third wheel her whole life has to be the killer in
the second one.
She meets the fireman and together, "Mayo, your spree."
"Mayo, no."
"In San Diago."
"I want to bring up another thing that bothered me."
Because you brought up the camp--
Go and top back.
You brought up the ad campaign.
And when they showed the ad campaign, it showed like--
It was really pretty.
It showed couples dying and everyone in the comments is just like--
They're very strategic story or movie.
There's Titanic, there's Ramy and Juliet.
There's one more.
Funny and glad.
Yes.
So they showed that and everyone in the comments is like, "This is in portays."
These people get murdered and stuff like that.
And they're like, "What are fictional characters?"
And that's fine.
You know what?
If you're going to pull from fictional stories and do that, fictional deaths,
fine, sure.
That's okay.
And I do love how they do the blood with the ribbons coming out.
It was a bead.
I don't know how this is a diamond commercial, but it's pretty.
Yeah, I really like the commercial for what it was.
Yeah, I mean, I didn't think what the comments were saying were just like, "Man, this person
needs to be docs."
And I was like, "Okay, we're--
That's--
I think that was more of a commentary of how the internet just is.
It is.
You can very easily upset someone.
And I think the way that would have made it more believable is if you took actual murder
scenes from like real life.
So if you emulated like what Jeffrey Dahmer did, and it's like, "That's in portays."
Like yes.
That you should not have done.
That is not okay.
But if you take scenes from a movie, that's for a game.
It's fictional.
It's fine.
Although, Bonnie--
Bonnie and Clyde is real.
Okay.
Bonnie and Clyde is in Primna Vatta. I've seen it in my own Too Eyes.
But as far as the Titanic's yet seen we like...
That's okay, that's true.
I really wanted you should have let him fit on the door to be one thing.
So I didn't think it merited the backlash that it was supposedly bringing this company.
Yeah, I mean that's fair.
Yeah.
Some things today don't, some things today do.
That's it.
Of hard eyes, like just leaving, like killer had the cool like night vision heart eyes.
Yeah.
And I loved how they did the intro where they like the cold open ends and we use his
eyes in like pitch black to transfer into the whole movie.
That was really nice.
It's a really cool mask.
We're gonna see a lot of them in Halloween.
And Halloween.
Yeah.
Maybe amazing.
Or nights.
I don't know if I'll put this out.
You can go in through the vineyard processing plant.
Ah.
These are the vineyard.
You go through the botanical gardens.
You have the carousel music.
Yeah.
You have the drive-in movie theater.
You have the police station.
Like there are just so many, so many set pieces that like perfectly set it up.
Yeah.
Visually.
And like I said, the sound design was really good.
I don't know if I'm just noticing more sound design in movies.
But yeah.
Yeah.
Anything else we want to see on this?
No, let's rate it.
Okay.
You go first.
I'm...
I will give this movie...
Are we doing like one to ten?
Eight to f?
Eight heart eyes out of ten.
Oh, whatever.
Lever.
I'm gonna give it nine heart eyes.
Yeah.
Only because I want more.
Yes.
Obviously I want more.
There were just some things that bug me about the movie.
But overall it doesn't detract from like how great the movie was as a whole.
No.
And the cool thing about a 90s slasher thick as opposed to the more subversive horror
that we've been getting is you can almost distance yourself from it a little more.
It does just become sort of a romp of a time.
And you forgive a lot more sentiments.
If you are not in it for like the depth.
You can definitely tell that even like I said the subverting of the tropes they are able
to kind of poke fun at the thing that they're kind of relying on as a crutch.
The running to the airport, the music swelling.
Yes.
Yeah.
It is great.
Cool.
All right.
Until next time.
Go watch the eyes of hearts.
The hearts have knives.
Oh God.
Just called hard.
Yep.
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I'm just going to keep using it.
I like it.
Doesn't bug me.
All right.