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Okay, so we just got back.

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We got back.

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We had a long awkward silent car ride.

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So trying to literally talk about anything else,

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which really we don't have much else to talk about.

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We have plenty to talk about.

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But all we really wanted to talk about was this movie.

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What movie do we see?

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Hard eyes!

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We saw "Heart Eyes" aka "The Hearts Have Knives".

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"Heart Nives".

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Let's split it up into two different segments here,

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because there's definitely spoilers in this movie.

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We'll do spoilers later, yeah.

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This is the "Spoiler Free Beginning".

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We are gonna do "Spoiler Free" stuff right in the beginning.

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Editor Dan here is going to put in a timestamp

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of when we are gonna go into spoilers.

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Sure, that's a nice of editor Dan.

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Editor Dan here, "Spoilers for this movie will begin at 19 minutes and 30 seconds".

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I went in, rather blind to this.

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I knew it was coming out.

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I had seen murmurings on my social media feed from friends

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that were like, "This movie is pretty good".

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I was like, "Oh, what movie?"

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Because there wasn't a large marketing for this,

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or if there was, "I've lived under a rock".

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How did you hear about the movie other than me being like,

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"We should go see this".

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I saw trailers for it before movies.

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Oh, that's when I get my snacks.

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Yeah, I saw a trailer for it while we were in theaters.

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I've seen movie posters for it.

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I've seen...

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So I have lived under a rock is what you're saying?

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All right, great.

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That makes sense.

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Yes.

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All I can say is this movie has no right, being as good as it was.

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Yeah, it was a killer of a time.

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With this movie, I could feel myself kind of rolling my eyes

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at a lot of the tropes that were happening.

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But there were moments in there where you get the idea that

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they present the tropes and then they subvert it.

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We were talking about the intro.

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And not the main cast intro, the like...

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The cold open, yeah.

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That was my least favorite part.

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But that also falls into that trope of you need that initial kill right in the beginning.

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It is the Drew Barrymore getting stabbed at the beginning.

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I was really hoping that it would be a much bigger celebrity.

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she was the main character for so many movies and you're like,

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And she's gone.

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Like, Scream has done it time and time again in the opening.

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They even poke fun at themselves and I think four.

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But we don't see it enough these days.

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Like, I wanted it to be like Shenaiatwane.

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I didn't need it to be a list celebrity, but I...

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like romantic comedies and horror movies throughout the film.

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The problem was that it felt so much like a setup.

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There was that one moment there where I thought that the girl in the beginning

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who gets pressed to death, I thought she said the killer's name for a second?

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Oh, I missed that completely.

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I don't think that she did.

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And maybe if there were subtitles I would have known.

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and be like, "You ruined this for me."

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Maybe we'll explore that."

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Oh, no, no, no.

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I didn't get that.

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I know exactly what moment you're talking about because her hand is hitting the thing.

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She says a word and then you're ruining this for me.

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But I believe it's like, "Stop it."

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Like, "What are you doing?

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Don't do this."

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And I thought she said something like, "Jeff, why are you doing this to me?"

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I was like, "Oh, you know that personally.

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Don't be in love was the moral of said story because it will get you killed.

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I spent most of the movie trying to create that.

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I thought that maybe there was more to the story.

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It was like, they just see something shiny and they killed the thing that's shiny.

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It's a very good nod to 80s 90s horror.

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It's just like, you know, killing the kill.

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Or there's no deep backstory.

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It's just, the movies made me do it.

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It's the love made me do it.

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It is, that's to me, a very 80s 90s horror/er trop.

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The whole thing was trope after trope, but not in a like gluttonous way.

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I feel like they used it to its advantage.

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Like I've felt it over and over and over again.

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started to feel kind of like a hallmark movie, a lifetime movie where it reminded me of

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anyone, but you actually.

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So they definitely leaned into it by the way that they subverted it was like they ordered the

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same difficult coffee drink.

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Which apparently everybody else orders, which is great.

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They bump heads with each other.

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And I was like, oh, that's funny, but it's also, yeah, like that's a trope.

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And I was like, okay, so that's how you take the trope and then you subvert it after it.

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of the movie where we are going to continually use these tropes over and over and over again.

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Also, Kudos to the sound design because the second thud, I was like, oh, this is, you get

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pretty quickly from the cold open that this is going to be very gory, pretty gross moving.

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I was just like, whoa.

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This is what we're in for.

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and they're like, how do you know this is not the heart eyes killer?

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And then it shows very clearly on the ground, rose petals in a heart.

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Also, the detectives were wonderful.

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Them being in, I don't know, it's a great presser, I guess, in the beginning.

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I kept being like, why is she's touching her phone while she's touching evidence?

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But we lose that pretty quick or at least I got invested enough that I didn't notice it as much.

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But I do remember throwing my hands up because I was like, why are you even in the great presser

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looking for clues to prove that this is heart eyes when there's a heart surrounded by rose petals?

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I mean, it's Valentine's Day and a couple got killed.

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And the only kills for 24 hours.

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Yeah, like let's make a snap quick decision because we've got 24 hours to deal with this.

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Sure, timing, as far as the sense of urgency in a movie, having a killer only kill for this 24 hour period,

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is that, you know, in the movie, you're in it.

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We'll go into the hubs, Jocelyn Laker.

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She was Shaw, so hubs.

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and standing very close to her is like, there's so many HR violations there.

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I figured out who the killer was pretty quick.

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That scene with him standing way too close.

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I was like, oh, as a woman, I've been in misposition and I went, oh, and that's where I thought they were going to run with it,

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which I'm kind of glad they didn't.

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But that happened and then the, the pinging of like searching for a lover.

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I was like, they very easily could have gone into the jilted woman trope and I'm glad they didn't.

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when he thinks that the killer is a man and she was like, what makes you think he's a man?

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Yeah, I couldn't tell if it was just me being like, aha, I figured it out or if it was more subtle, but it was satisfying.

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Let's talk about our leads.

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Our lead characters, which in according to this IMDB they go in order of appearance, so this is very annoying.

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No, it's not stupid. Let's go back to going in order of appearance and not just like...

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Oh, right, duh, because J.

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It's the, will they won't they, but definitely they will couple.

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There's the scene where they're sitting in the ambulance and they're going to go their separate ways, not the end.

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That female paramedic, it's like, what a good story.

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You two kids are so cute.

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Which like she should get all of the love because she stole the movie.

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There's definitely some side characters in there where it felt like their role was bigger than it needed to be.

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It felt like something got left in the cutting room floor.

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But they were definitely casting for people who could definitely steal the scene in that moment.

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Which I think was intentional to throw you off.

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Every side person could be the person.

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It's definitely one of those moments where you saw that character and you're just like,

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we lingered on that person for longer than I feel like we needed to.

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There's a type of female character that is quite popular right now.

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That is, I'm clutsy, but I'm also intelligent.

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I don't know how I feel about it.

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It really is trying to be like, but she will be the hero in the end.

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Like she will sort of rescue him.

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She's after him.

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That's a woman I don't care for anymore.

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she's the big city woman and she just needs to go back to her roots of wanting to be a nurse or being in medical school.

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I didn't even think about the nurse thing until now and that makes me upset.

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Okay, well, all right, it is what is.

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But the clumsy factor, we see it, that's what I mean by the opening,

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like their meet cute really reminded me of anyone but you because you have the leg trying to dry her pants with the hair dryer.

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And then her being like, I will head but you several times.

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And of course she's a bad shot.

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oh, let's see, I don't want you to be pretty, let's see, I don't I want Lucille ball stomping on the grapes, not caring about beauty at all.

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Like I want it to be rough and tumbling and like, that's who gets the guy.

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It's a little pretty, that's not on her.

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It's just sort of that is a current trope because we're trying to be like, she's a strong woman but also, let's, I don't know.

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Also this trope of just like, I'm such an ugly person and no one wants to be and she's like, you are a gorgeous actor.

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Right, we've thrown that out and replaced it with I'm a clutz.

246
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Yeah.

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Then be a clutz.

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Be the clutziest clutz you could ever be.

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Throw the gun at the window and have it bounce back instead of shattering it.

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That would be goal.

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Tolerious.

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Yeah, like community del arte let's like steer into the skin of it.

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Or even her clutziness could lead to her actually accidentally succeeding at like distracting the killer or something like that.

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In the opening we see the really cool like little knife that gets held up and has the heart.

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I never came back and it made me sad.

256
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Yeah, they should have used that more.

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But I wanted her to like throw it, it bounces off a wall and hits the killer in the back of the head.

258
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Yeah, that reminds me that I recently watched another Valentine's Day movie Love Hurtz.

259
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And there's a really funny moment.

260
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This doesn't spoil anything but there are two characters that are fighting.

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One of them has these like feather darts that he can expertly throw.

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And then another guy picks up that feather dart and tries to throw back at him and the feather darts just goes.

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It just limply falls on the ground.

264
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The hand gestures are great.

265
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Sorry, I am on the IMDB and the director of this movie, Josh Rubin.

266
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So he made a cameo.

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What a graphic memory man.

268
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I sat there and watched the crack.

269
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He made a cameo in the movie.

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And I first killer.

271
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No, it was just a one off scene.

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And I thought that maybe they just like cast him just because he's really funny.

273
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But he's the one that says call 911.

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That's the director.

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That's cool.

276
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Yeah.

277
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So you can see right here.

278
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Oh yeah.

279
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What else has he done?

280
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I know him from watching dropout and the many appearances that he's done on dropout from doing game changer.

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And I mean the many, many other shows that they do on there.

282
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So he is hilarious.

283
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And I was unaware that he actually directed this movie.

284
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So this is actually pretty great.

285
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And he also did another world wolf movie called werewolves within.

286
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Oh my god.

287
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We are in that that time.

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It's nice because I had seen the name at the end.

289
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And I went, I don't know that you've done a lot.

290
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And I was excited because I'm like if this is one of your debut or you know early ones.

291
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Like wait a crush it out of the gate.

292
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Did he write it to?

293
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No.

294
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He's done quite a few other things which I'm surprised with like he did scare me which I think we did see scare me.

295
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We must have.

296
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He did an episode of Adam Ruins Everything.

297
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This is not debut debut but this seems like more of a bigger.

298
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This was a big one.

299
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So the TV series that he did before it was with Kevin Hart die heart.

300
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Oh yeah.

301
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You can see a lot of that influence in that actually now that you've said it.

302
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But totally I really liked it.

303
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It ended and I went man I hope they make a sequel which I haven't felt about a movie in a long time.

304
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I don't know how you do given the ending but this is one of those that if it came out of be like yeah sure I'm going to go see that.

305
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Also the writers of this are have done some movies that we really love Christopher Landon.

306
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He did the movie freaky.

307
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There it is.

308
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I was like I know that name.

309
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And we love freaky he also.

310
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Yes big freaky fans here.

311
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A lot of paranormal activities.

312
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He didn't do the first one but he was there for basically every sequel after that.

313
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Because those are some of my faves.

314
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A love of found footage.

315
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He didn't do the first one but he did do happy death day to you.

316
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Yes.

317
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Halfway through the movie I went this reminds me tonally of happy death day and I'm not mad about it.

318
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The other writer Michael Kennedy he also wrote freaky.

319
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Nice.

320
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And it's a wonderful knife.

321
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I still haven't watched it.

322
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I was going to watch it around Christmas.

323
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I haven't saved in my like things to watch on hello.

324
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One of the third writers kind of surprised me.

325
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This is Philip Murphy.

326
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He wrote hit man's life's bodyguard.

327
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Okay.

328
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That makes sense.

329
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The chase scene elements and like that kind of thing.

330
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We are in a time where movies are starting to take a genre.

331
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And I think we talked about this on a different episode of the podcast.

332
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Flip them on their heads.

333
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So this was clearly a romcom as a horror movie.

334
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Yes.

335
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And I'm show here for that blend.

336
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Yeah.

337
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I think with the oversaturation especially with hallmark movies exploding and becoming such a trope and such a formula.

338
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It is nice that you kind of took that formula and you're just like what if we just kept the formula but you just kind of blended in a serial killer into this?

339
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I want more horror love stories but comedies.

340
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That's somebody's monologue maybe.

341
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But you and I both like started giggling because it was like I'm going to go.

342
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Oh god I'm going to butcher it so hard.

343
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I was talking about like love is blind in this and then I'm going to go up not in hell.

344
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Oh yeah.

345
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Yeah.

346
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And they just kept naming.

347
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It was so good.

348
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It was the best friend.

349
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Yes.

350
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My best friend and then we're going to go up not in hell.

351
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My best friend's wedding and then we would I'm not in hell and yes.

352
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That was great and then it paused and they started talking about something else and she's like is love really blind?

353
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Yes.

354
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And then something about it was either like love Island or something.

355
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I was like oh now we're in the unscripted.

356
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Yes.

357
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I adore when filmmakers like film history and there are nods to the fact that they clearly love film history and that was with his girlfriend.

358
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And then one day, I was like I love the black and white movie one of the black and white movies.

359
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I love the black and white movie.

360
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That was one of the parts of dialogue that I didn't necessarily love per se like she's like I love the black and white.

361
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And I was like then what is it?

362
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As someone who also loves a black and white movie can't name what it is.

363
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Tell me what it is.

364
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Like I need you to be a bigger super fan about it than I am.

365
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I liked the conversation in the van that they were having and I liked that there was like the classic love story to it.

366
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Yeah.

367
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Spoiler alert.

368
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If you do not want anything spoil about this movie, do not listen past this point.

369
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Let's start going into spoiler territories.

370
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So yeah, go see it and then turn this off.

371
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Go see it.

372
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If you haven't seen it yet, yeah.

373
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Pause, come back.

374
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There was a part in the movie that like really bothered me.

375
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Oh.

376
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So I don't really have a lot of notes.

377
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So this is interesting.

378
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So the Hard Eyes Killer is supposedly like the most famous serial killer in the world.

379
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Not in the world.

380
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In the world of this movie.

381
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This is the 30 year that there is a killer on Valentine's Day or they think there's going to be a killer on Valentine's Day.

382
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My point is that in the world of this movie, the Hard Eyes Killer is like the killer that everyone's on watching out for.

383
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They capture supposedly capture the killer with the capture J.

384
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Yeah.

385
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Yeah, J.S.

386
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So they arrest J thinking that it's him.

387
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Right.

388
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And they bring him to what seems like an abandoned police station.

389
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There is no one there. The only people that are there are the two detectives who like just arrived and just the secretary and that is it.

390
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She's an officer.

391
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She's just watching the friend desk.

392
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Yeah.

393
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But like--

394
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Does it not bother me at all?

395
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I thought it added to the atmosphere of the movie.

396
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But I was like, there's no one there.

397
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No, they caught the guy.

398
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Let's all go home.

399
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But like everyone went home.

400
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There's no news around this.

401
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There's no like you guys have been reporting on this for the past three years.

402
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There is a famous serial killer that is out there and they caught him and everyone's just like silent.

403
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No one--

404
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There were people at the gardens or whatever when they caught them.

405
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There was mediums there.

406
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So I just--

407
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But no one was like, we got to follow this guy to the police station.

408
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No one's like--

409
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I suspended this bullet.

410
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I found it improbable that like--

411
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Not saying it's probable, but--

412
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Yeah.

413
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The other part was like, does Uber not exist in this world?

414
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Everyone gets a cab.

415
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I get another thing where I was like, oh, definitely the killer.

416
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It really reminded me of an urban legends scream.

417
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Why are you running up the stairs when you should be going out the front door?

418
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In fact, there's the scene where they so cleverly she takes off his belt and she's like, get your mind out of the gutter.

419
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And I was like, OK, we've got witty dialogue.

420
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We've got a good action sequence going on.

421
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She hooks it on the door and like ties it to a radiator and I was like, yeah!

422
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Girl power, let's go.

423
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So what do you want to do when I get some take-out?

424
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Yeah, there was the trope.

425
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There's always this trope.

426
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And I absolutely hate it.

427
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And for whatever reason they have to put it in every single slasher film where if they ever do this, then I'm like, you deserve to get stabbed.

428
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Yeah, I mean, that's sort of fun.

429
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Who else would we yell at?

430
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Go!

431
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But there was that moment, yeah, where they like, they're just like, oh, we trapped the killer in the room.

432
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Let's lean against this very fragile door and just kind of be like, okay, and like you said, yeah, let's just...

433
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Right, this is supportive.

434
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Let's plan it saved.

435
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Well, this Order some Chinese, we'll just pop on a movie, like, what do you want to do?

436
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Oh, there's a, there's a nine in the door!

437
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I didn't see that go!

438
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Stop! And we were both gesturing to each other just like, go, leave.

439
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Do anything else, like, call the police.

440
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How are you not doing anything else?

441
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It's like you lock the door and then you just have object permanence and you're just like,

442
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"The killer doesn't exist anymore. The killer doesn't exist."

443
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Roll credits! Like we're like, like, on to the next movie.

444
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Yeah, apparently.

445
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Listen, there are two things that I like to go see a horror movie with you for. One, we will quietly,

446
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wildly gesture between the two of us to like, move, go, please, yes.

447
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I think the other thing that I love is close your mouth!

448
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Close your mouth. Always close your mouth. I mean, they do address it in there.

449
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Which I was like, "Oh, chef's kiss. Thank you for finally addressing it."

450
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And it's like, you got blood in my mouth and throws it on the killer, which was again gold.

451
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And her being mad at him, that is a fun couple trope of like, "What did you do?"

452
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And he's like, "I saved your life."

453
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I saved you? What do you want more?

454
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You got it in my mouth! That was great.

455
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Yeah, but there were multiple times where adjusting to each other were just like close your mouth.

456
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Close your mouth.

457
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To me, those are two signs of a good horror movie.

458
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I mean, they're not. You really should...

459
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I one day will want to see the movie where they do all of the right things and like,

460
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it breaks my heart that they're getting killed.

461
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At this point in life, I've yet to see them make all of the right moves.

462
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Yeah, the lingering part always gets to me.

463
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And I do enjoy the scene where the two of them really get to know each other in the car.

464
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I feel like that is necessary for them to understand where each other is coming from.

465
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That's where you learn.

466
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Right.

467
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But there is a murderer out there searching in all the cars.

468
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And they're just like, "Let's just take a little nap."

469
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Yeah, I had the same thought when she is...

470
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She goes back towards the killer after they're running out of the apartment.

471
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He's like, "What are you doing?"

472
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She's like, "We're not together. It's fine."

473
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And I'm like, "That is still a crazy person with a weapon."

474
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Yeah.

475
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I really wanted...

476
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We are not together to be more of a joke.

477
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If they both yelled it at the serial killer, I think that'd be really funny.

478
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Right.

479
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Yeah.

480
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We are not together.

481
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,000
Again, I had a really fun time in this movie though.

482
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000
Another part that bugged me was...

483
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000
Oh my God.

484
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,000
Everyone kind of knows what the heart-eye killer looks like.

485
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000
And there's a guy who...

486
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000
Because there are those masks.

487
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000
Yeah.

488
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,000
Yeah, that people have to scare people.

489
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,000
But there is a guy walking around with a machete in a drive-in movie theater.

490
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000
And everyone's just like, "Yeah, okay."

491
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,000
And then he kills the couple that's been in and then everyone's like,

492
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,000
"Oh, I guess we should take it seriously and just ignore the five other people that he killed."

493
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,000
Like, "On the way in."

494
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000
I really liked how they played it at first.

495
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,000
Because the one guy's like, "Oh, cool costume."

496
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,000
I really wanted like a sick cosplay bro.

497
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,000
Because I needed the address of the weapon.

498
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,000
Sure, wear the mask, whatever.

499
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000
But sometimes cosplayers look real good.

500
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,000
And they do?

501
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,000
And you can't tell the difference.

502
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,000
And I thought there's a way to make it modern and...

503
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,000
You know, people would get it.

504
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,000
But he instantly...

505
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,000
Isn't he killed that guy?

506
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000
Yeah, he like stabs him immediately.

507
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000
And he keeps walking and I was like, "Oh no, we're still...

508
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000
I just closed the door.

509
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000
Stab walk closed door, keep going."

510
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000
And that guy, like this is a couple's fest, I guess.

511
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000
Went by himself.

512
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,000
Yeah, and he was the lone person.

513
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,000
He didn't kill...

514
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000
Or the killer didn't kill the couple.

515
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000
Just killed the one guy.

516
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,000
And I don't know, his partner should have come in and be like, "Oh my God, he's dead!

517
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,000
Everyone get out!"

518
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000
No.

519
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000
No, he was a single dude at the height.

520
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,000
That's what my burn was like, "Oh, he's the lone wolf at this Valentine's day."

521
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,000
He's singling and mingling?

522
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000
Yeah.

523
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000
He's looking for another single lady.

524
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,000
I will say they make a joke at one point, not even joke.

525
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,000
They do say he only kills people if they're straight.

526
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,000
Yeah.

527
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,000
And then did avoid the lesbian couple.

528
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,000
The lesbian couple.

529
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000
So that was an interesting choice.

530
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,000
Yeah.

531
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:59,000
I was wondering if there was going to be any gay representation in this.

532
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,000
There was.

533
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,000
And there was.

534
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:07,000
But at first when they were in the couple's festival or whatever that was, it was straight,

535
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,000
couple, straight, couple, straight, couple, and then I saw a guy in a guy and I was like, "Okay, word.

536
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,000
Okay, we're okay."

537
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,000
Right.

538
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,000
Yeah.

539
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,000
There was some.

540
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:23,000
And I did think that that scene of dragging the knife along the windshield went on for a really long time,

541
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000
where I was like, "I get the point you're trying to make.

542
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,000
I don't get it fully."

543
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,000
Yeah.

544
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,000
I appreciate the representation and we'll never address it again.

545
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,000
No.

546
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,000
They'll address it in the sequel.

547
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,000
Yes.

548
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,000
More equality in the sequel.

549
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,000
So let's go into the big reveal.

550
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000
Hobbs and Shaw are the killer.

551
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,000
We didn't bring that up.

552
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:47,000
We should have brought it up earlier, but the detectives do say their name and then you in the theater out loud said,

553
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:54,000
like, "Hobbs and Shaw, like the movie." And then sure enough, it was like they mirrored exactly what you said on the screen.

554
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,000
They're like, "Hobbs and Shaw, like the movie."

555
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,000
When I figure something out, I'm like, I'm terrible at keeping it to myself.

556
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,000
And I'll be like, "Oh, man, like that's the killer.

557
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,000
I'm getting a lot better."

558
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:14,000
But I, yeah, I figured that one out real quick and was like, I did echo.

559
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:23,000
Amber and I have this thing wherever we watch any movies or TV shows and she jokingly says some response.

560
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,000
And then the character says the exact response that they said.

561
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000
And I turned to her and I go, "When did you write this?"

562
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,000
But it was great because I know Jordania is in fast and the furious.

563
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,000
Yes.

564
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000
You said he was too?

565
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,000
I am not sure.

566
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:45,000
I definitely recognized Jordana and I thought it was really funny that they made a fast and furious joke.

567
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,000
Like that she was the one that had the name?

568
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:56,000
No, he wasn't. But, oh my god, I cannot believe that I did not recognize him.

569
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000
Have you seen Idol Hands?

570
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,000
Let's crap that then.

571
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,000
Okay.

572
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,000
First Final Destination.

573
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000
You know I've seen that.

574
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,000
He's the main character in the first Final Destination movie.

575
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000
No way!

576
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Shut the front door.

577
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:18,000
He's also Stan in the M&M music video for Stan.

578
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Okay.

579
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000
I didn't get it, M&M toy.

580
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,000
All right.

581
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,000
He is the alive Casper.

582
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,000
Oh.

583
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,000
You see that?

584
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,000
It's a hair part and you're just like, "Oh, yeah."

585
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,000
Ladies love a 90s middle part.

586
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,000
He's a live Casper.

587
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Yeah.

588
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000
So that's who Hobbs was.

589
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Delightful.

590
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,000
Yeah.

591
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Hobbs and Shaw were great.

592
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000
I was kind of sad when he got killed.

593
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,000
I was like, "I wanted more of them."

594
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,000
This was a movie that I, we left and I was like, "Oh, it's over."

595
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000
It felt really quick.

596
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,000
It did.

597
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,000
I don't know what the runtime was, but...

598
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,000
It's a very short movie.

599
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000
Like an hour and a half.

600
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
We're back to the 90s.

601
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,000
We need more of those.

602
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,000
Yeah.

603
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:13,760
The reveal that I really loved, aside from Shaw, Jordanna being the killer.

604
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,960
That was the one I solved right away.

605
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,720
But the IT guy was really funny.

606
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,360
Then that was the guy where they lingered on him for so long where you just kind of like

607
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,600
tilt your head and you're just like, "What's going on here?

608
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,600
What's happening?

609
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,720
Why are we on this guy for so long?"

610
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,600
Then lights go out and I was like, "There's something about that guy."

611
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:40,080
Then I love when they brought it back because as an audience, you immediately recognize him.

612
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,040
But the fact that Ali is just like, "Who are you?"

613
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,720
And he's like the IT guy.

614
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,560
We've met.

615
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,720
We talked.

616
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,920
I asked you to get coffee like two hours ago.

617
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,920
And she's like, "I don't know."

618
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,800
Again, this is why I thought they were going to go with Jilted.

619
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,960
Which, again, glad they didn't.

620
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,760
I like that they were just like, "That's our kink basically."

621
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,840
And it's like, "We saw you and we were together."

622
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,040
And that's the moment when I wanted both of them to yell.

623
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,520
It's like, "We are not a couple."

624
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,520
Yeah!

625
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,520
Yes!

626
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,760
I needed that joke to be bigger.

627
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,040
And then there is check-off straw.

628
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,200
Yes, check-off is environmentally friendly straw.

629
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,200
Yes.

630
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,440
Which I do love the joke that they're just like, "Yeah, save the world with a reusable straw

631
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,160
in a cup that has more plastic than that straw."

632
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,160
I love it.

633
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,480
It was a really smart script.

634
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,480
Yes, it was.

635
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,040
You and I always play that is this check-offs gun situation.

636
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,080
And I will say the straw kept coming up and they did a great job of bringing it up enough

637
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,440
and letting it go so that when it came back, it was real rewarding.

638
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:55,440
It was really rewarding because for a moment I was almost certain that the movie was going

639
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:01,480
to end after they killed the first killer at the driving movie theater.

640
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,800
And then I figured, "Oh, either he's not dead for magical reasons or there was more than

641
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,040
one killer and that's going to be like the tag for the sequel."

642
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,040
And I was like, "Oh, they didn't use the straw at all."

643
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,240
And then they kept going with it.

644
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,000
Turns out there was a secret fourth act of the movie.

645
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,160
And then we got check-off straw stabbed in the face.

646
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:29,640
See, when Jordania showed up, I was like, "Oh, we're not done."

647
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,080
I knew that there was going to be that chunk.

648
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:39,080
She's great to watch on screen and to watch her be the twisted sort of killer was just

649
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,080
great.

650
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:45,040
You could definitely tell that she really soaked up the role.

651
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:54,080
It was such a juicy character to be like to kind of be on the good guy side.

652
00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:00,400
And then to, even with the dynamic, the other trope was like, "You have good cop bad cop."

653
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,400
And then she's the good...

654
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,400
Take the jack at all.

655
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,640
Yeah, it's just us.

656
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,640
Yeah.

657
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,160
Do you want some water, some coffee?

658
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,760
I was like, "Oh, I've seen this in so many long-order episodes."

659
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:12,760
Oh, huh.

660
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:18,960
And she's really leaning into it and then how are they going to separate that?

661
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:24,000
I really enjoyed her dynamic with the poor IT guy who I don't even know his name.

662
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,640
When he was like, "We were a threpple."

663
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,280
And she's like, "No, he was a fan."

664
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,280
David.

665
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,280
David.

666
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,040
She says, "No, he was a fan."

667
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,040
Yeah.

668
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,480
And I went, "Oh, she's just the mastermind behind all of it."

669
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,480
Yep.

670
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,680
And then we have that saw moment where you just flash back to all the parts and movies.

671
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:47,000
And she's flipping through dating apps and be like, "Oh, who's going to be the next

672
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,640
third wheel to go out and do their bidding?"

673
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,880
And she's like, "Oh, I would have to look at this later, but I'm hoping."

674
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:59,960
That when she pointed out the firefighter with a dog, I'm hoping that that was the killer

675
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:03,120
at the movie theater or the driving movie theater.

676
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,120
I hope so too.

677
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,760
Now that you've said it, I don't know that it was because you see it so quickly.

678
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,760
It is.

679
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,800
It's a movie that's fun to watch again.

680
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,800
Yes.

681
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,200
Anytime you watch a mystery movie or like a, you know, who's the killer kind of thing,

682
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,480
to watch it knowing what you know now.

683
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,480
Right.

684
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,280
It's that sixth sense thing where once you know that Bruce Willis is dead, it would be

685
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,640
really fun to go through the movie again to be like, "Spoiler."

686
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,640
There's the glue, there's the glue, there's the glue, there's the glue, there's the glue,

687
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,280
there's the glue, there's the glue, there's the glue, there's the spoiler land right now.

688
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,720
I'm mid, but the other one.

689
00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:35,200
You had time.

690
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,880
I want to talk about the end credit for a hot second, or I guess mid credit.

691
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:46,880
There's a trope in Save the Cat of like opening image, closing image.

692
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,720
I understand that trope from a story perspective.

693
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:54,800
I think we've played it out a little too much.

694
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,400
I now enjoy when that trope is twisted on its head.

695
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,720
This was that moment where it started and I went, "Oh man, I get what we're doing, but

696
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:06,480
I don't really need it."

697
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:13,840
I thought what it was going to be was the campaign they put together for the like diamond

698
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:14,840
company.

699
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,480
It was just like a little stinger of that.

700
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,480
Yeah.

701
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,680
It is not what it was.

702
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:25,280
So a lot of questions about also by the time we got to the credits, I immediately was like,

703
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,160
"I want a sequel.

704
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,880
I want to have a cocktail and watch the sequel to this next Valentine's Day and I am so

705
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,880
in."

706
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,880
Yeah.

707
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,680
I don't know how they do that.

708
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,400
Other than like another person just dresses up as that serial killer.

709
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,400
Which is totally fine.

710
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,760
Like scream is done at plenty.

711
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,960
Like you could have one, like that's where you bring the fireman back, right?

712
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:51,640
He actually went on a date with 30, really liked her and she told him all this stuff and

713
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,800
that's actually what got him going.

714
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,480
So now he's going to continue her legacy or whatever, short, short, short.

715
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:09,560
But the friend was filming their proposal but had the vocoder with the voice and everyone

716
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,480
just was like, "Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha."

717
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,680
Also, how does she know about that?

718
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,680
That's my case.

719
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,680
Yeah.

720
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,280
I rest my case.

721
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:24,280
So the friend, jilted from being the third wheel her whole life has to be the killer in

722
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,280
the second one.

723
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,520
She meets the fireman and together, "Mayo, your spree."

724
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,520
"Mayo, no."

725
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,520
"In San Diago."

726
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,520
"I want to bring up another thing that bothered me."

727
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,520
Because you brought up the camp--

728
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,520
Go and top back.

729
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,040
You brought up the ad campaign.

730
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,200
And when they showed the ad campaign, it showed like--

731
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,200
It was really pretty.

732
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,880
It showed couples dying and everyone in the comments is just like--

733
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,400
They're very strategic story or movie.

734
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,440
There's Titanic, there's Ramy and Juliet.

735
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,960
There's one more.

736
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,960
Funny and glad.

737
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,960
Yes.

738
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,600
So they showed that and everyone in the comments is like, "This is in portays."

739
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,600
These people get murdered and stuff like that.

740
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,760
And they're like, "What are fictional characters?"

741
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,760
And that's fine.

742
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,760
You know what?

743
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:13,080
If you're going to pull from fictional stories and do that, fictional deaths,

744
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,080
fine, sure.

745
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,080
That's okay.

746
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,080
And I do love how they do the blood with the ribbons coming out.

747
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,080
It was a bead.

748
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,960
I don't know how this is a diamond commercial, but it's pretty.

749
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,560
Yeah, I really like the commercial for what it was.

750
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,960
Yeah, I mean, I didn't think what the comments were saying were just like, "Man, this person

751
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,960
needs to be docs."

752
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:31,960
And I was like, "Okay, we're--

753
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:32,960
That's--

754
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,280
I think that was more of a commentary of how the internet just is.

755
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,280
It is.

756
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,160
You can very easily upset someone.

757
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:47,980
And I think the way that would have made it more believable is if you took actual murder

758
00:37:47,980 --> 00:37:49,720
scenes from like real life.

759
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:55,120
So if you emulated like what Jeffrey Dahmer did, and it's like, "That's in portays."

760
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,120
Like yes.

761
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,080
That you should not have done.

762
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,960
That is not okay.

763
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,440
But if you take scenes from a movie, that's for a game.

764
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,440
It's fictional.

765
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,440
It's fine.

766
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,440
Although, Bonnie--

767
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,440
Bonnie and Clyde is real.

768
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,440
Okay.

769
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,080
Bonnie and Clyde is in Primna Vatta. I've seen it in my own Too Eyes.

770
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,380
But as far as the Titanic's yet seen we like...

771
00:38:16,380 --> 00:38:17,420
That's okay, that's true.

772
00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:22,240
I really wanted you should have let him fit on the door to be one thing.

773
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:30,160
So I didn't think it merited the backlash that it was supposedly bringing this company.

774
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,580
Yeah, I mean that's fair.

775
00:38:32,580 --> 00:38:33,620
Yeah.

776
00:38:33,620 --> 00:38:36,180
Some things today don't, some things today do.

777
00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:37,180
That's it.

778
00:38:37,180 --> 00:38:42,500
Of hard eyes, like just leaving, like killer had the cool like night vision heart eyes.

779
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:43,500
Yeah.

780
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:50,920
And I loved how they did the intro where they like the cold open ends and we use his

781
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,420
eyes in like pitch black to transfer into the whole movie.

782
00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:56,900
That was really nice.

783
00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:58,620
It's a really cool mask.

784
00:38:58,620 --> 00:39:00,580
We're gonna see a lot of them in Halloween.

785
00:39:00,580 --> 00:39:01,580
And Halloween.

786
00:39:01,580 --> 00:39:02,580
Yeah.

787
00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:03,580
Maybe amazing.

788
00:39:03,580 --> 00:39:04,580
Or nights.

789
00:39:04,580 --> 00:39:05,820
I don't know if I'll put this out.

790
00:39:05,820 --> 00:39:10,140
You can go in through the vineyard processing plant.

791
00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:11,140
Ah.

792
00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:12,140
These are the vineyard.

793
00:39:12,140 --> 00:39:13,780
You go through the botanical gardens.

794
00:39:13,780 --> 00:39:15,380
You have the carousel music.

795
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:16,380
Yeah.

796
00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:17,740
You have the drive-in movie theater.

797
00:39:17,740 --> 00:39:20,700
You have the police station.

798
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:26,740
Like there are just so many, so many set pieces that like perfectly set it up.

799
00:39:26,740 --> 00:39:27,740
Yeah.

800
00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:28,740
Visually.

801
00:39:28,740 --> 00:39:30,940
And like I said, the sound design was really good.

802
00:39:30,940 --> 00:39:35,220
I don't know if I'm just noticing more sound design in movies.

803
00:39:35,220 --> 00:39:36,220
But yeah.

804
00:39:36,220 --> 00:39:37,220
Yeah.

805
00:39:37,220 --> 00:39:38,220
Anything else we want to see on this?

806
00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:39,220
No, let's rate it.

807
00:39:39,220 --> 00:39:40,220
Okay.

808
00:39:40,220 --> 00:39:41,220
You go first.

809
00:39:41,220 --> 00:39:42,220
I'm...

810
00:39:42,220 --> 00:39:44,420
I will give this movie...

811
00:39:44,420 --> 00:39:46,020
Are we doing like one to ten?

812
00:39:46,020 --> 00:39:47,020
Eight to f?

813
00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:50,220
Eight heart eyes out of ten.

814
00:39:50,220 --> 00:39:51,220
Oh, whatever.

815
00:39:51,220 --> 00:39:52,220
Lever.

816
00:39:52,220 --> 00:39:54,220
I'm gonna give it nine heart eyes.

817
00:39:54,220 --> 00:39:55,220
Yeah.

818
00:39:55,220 --> 00:39:56,220
Yeah.

819
00:39:56,220 --> 00:39:57,220
Only because I want more.

820
00:39:57,220 --> 00:39:58,220
Yes.

821
00:39:58,220 --> 00:39:59,220
Obviously I want more.

822
00:39:59,220 --> 00:40:01,380
There were just some things that bug me about the movie.

823
00:40:01,380 --> 00:40:07,180
But overall it doesn't detract from like how great the movie was as a whole.

824
00:40:07,180 --> 00:40:08,180
No.

825
00:40:08,180 --> 00:40:14,540
And the cool thing about a 90s slasher thick as opposed to the more subversive horror

826
00:40:14,540 --> 00:40:19,180
that we've been getting is you can almost distance yourself from it a little more.

827
00:40:19,180 --> 00:40:24,260
It does just become sort of a romp of a time.

828
00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:28,420
And you forgive a lot more sentiments.

829
00:40:28,420 --> 00:40:32,420
If you are not in it for like the depth.

830
00:40:32,420 --> 00:40:37,180
You can definitely tell that even like I said the subverting of the tropes they are able

831
00:40:37,180 --> 00:40:44,380
to kind of poke fun at the thing that they're kind of relying on as a crutch.

832
00:40:44,380 --> 00:40:46,220
The running to the airport, the music swelling.

833
00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:47,220
Yes.

834
00:40:47,220 --> 00:40:48,220
Yes.

835
00:40:48,220 --> 00:40:49,220
Yeah.

836
00:40:49,220 --> 00:40:50,220
It is great.

837
00:40:50,220 --> 00:40:51,220
It is great.

838
00:40:51,220 --> 00:40:52,220
Cool.

839
00:40:52,220 --> 00:40:53,220
All right.

840
00:40:53,220 --> 00:40:54,220
Until next time.

841
00:40:54,220 --> 00:40:57,060
Go watch the eyes of hearts.

842
00:40:57,060 --> 00:40:59,060
The hearts have knives.

843
00:40:59,060 --> 00:41:00,060
Oh God.

844
00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:01,060
Just called hard.

845
00:41:01,060 --> 00:41:02,060
Yep.

846
00:41:02,060 --> 00:41:08,380
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847
00:41:08,380 --> 00:41:12,700
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848
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:18,340
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849
00:41:18,340 --> 00:41:21,100
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850
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:24,620
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851
00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:26,580
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852
00:41:26,580 --> 00:41:32,400
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853
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,500
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854
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:37,940
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855
00:41:37,940 --> 00:41:43,700
And that'll do it for our movie review on how are you now watching this?

856
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:46,420
I'm just going to keep using it.

857
00:41:46,420 --> 00:41:47,420
I like it.

858
00:41:47,420 --> 00:41:48,420
Doesn't bug me.

859
00:41:48,420 --> 00:41:49,420
All right.

